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Trump Personally Pushed Postmaster General To Double Rates on Amazon, Other Firms: Report (washingtonpost.com)
President Trump personally urged the leader of the U.S. Postal Service to double the rates the agency charges Amazon and other firms for delivery packages in several private conversations in 2017 and 2018, The Washington Post reported Friday (alternative source). From the report: Postmaster General Megan Brennan has so far resisted Trump's demand, explaining in multiple conversations occurring this year and last that these arrangements are bound by contracts and must be reviewed by a regulatory commission, the three people said. She has told the president that the Amazon relationship is beneficial for the Postal Service and gave him a set of slides that showed the variety of companies, in addition to Amazon, that also partner for deliveries.
Despite these presentations, Trump has continued to level criticism at Amazon. And last month, his critiques culminated in the signing of an executive order mandating a government review of the financially strapped Postal Service that could lead to major changes in the way it charges Amazon and others for package delivery. Few U.S. companies have drawn Trump's ire as much as Amazon, which has rapidly grown to be the second-largest U.S. company in terms of market capitalization. For more than three years, Trump has fumed publicly and privately about the giant commerce and services company and its founder Jeffrey P. Bezos, who is also the owner of The Washington Post.
Despite these presentations, Trump has continued to level criticism at Amazon. And last month, his critiques culminated in the signing of an executive order mandating a government review of the financially strapped Postal Service that could lead to major changes in the way it charges Amazon and others for package delivery. Few U.S. companies have drawn Trump's ire as much as Amazon, which has rapidly grown to be the second-largest U.S. company in terms of market capitalization. For more than three years, Trump has fumed publicly and privately about the giant commerce and services company and its founder Jeffrey P. Bezos, who is also the owner of The Washington Post.
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Won't that just push Amazon to set up their own private courier services? Not that I feel sympathy for either side of this fight.
Better watch your mouths' tech billionaires! Support your President or face his wrath! #MAGA!
What's not to like about President Trump? He's taking it to swamp creatures, and they slither back into the mire.
It's time for the swamp critters to pay their own freight. Tough titty. Don't bullshit me, Amazon is the the most profitable company
on the earth thanks to government subsidies.
Sounds like good business to me. How is this bad for Trump? Looks like he stopped the USPS from being fleeced if the market is paying the new prices rather than jumping to competitors.
Oh thatâ(TM)s right, cause someone hates Trump.
This site has become a joke.
I am sorry the company CEO is hurting the Presidents fragile Ego. But shouldn't he be Mr. Business man? Who looks at the big picture and works to make profitable deals no matter what your personal feelings are to the other person? Just as long as Amazon and like companies are not being charged at a loss at such bulk rates this is money to the USPS system, that isn't going to its competitors of FedEx and UPS. Doubling the Rates will not hurt Amazon that much, It will just hurt the USPS because Amazon will just move to the next cheapest shipping method.
If something is so important that you feel the need to post it on the internet... It probably isn't that important.
He'll put his personal touch into 6x9 feet of the luxurious Trump Wing at Leavenworth Downs. Treason is not too strong a word.
You'd think that as a self-professed "businessman", Trump would understand how demand curves work -- if you double the price of a product, demand decreases, if other suppliers (UPS, Fedex, Ontrac, Amazon's own service, etc) can deliver for less, then the postoffice loses out on income for a business that costs very little to provide when they are already sending workers out to every address.
Though I'd be happy to see Amazon stop using the USPS -- they are the least reliable of all of the other services Amazon uses, packages sometimes show up days after they were marked "delivered", or don't show up at all. I fairly often get packages meant for neighbors, I assume this is the source of the delayed packages.
Fedex and UPS are the best, packages show up on time. Amazon's own delivery service has been ok, but seem to have a high number of rescheduled deliveries when they've run out of time to deliver. Maybe I'm on the end of the route.
The shipping for mega corps SHOULD be run at a loss and the loss be paid for with tax dollars!
If you don't think that you are a commie!
Congrats, USA. You have elected a petulant child to run the executive branch.
This is a country, with LAWS and REGULATIONS.
We're soooo going to have fun suing your ass for assigning criminals as heads of the EPA and FCC, I'm actually surprised you didn't assign a known pedophile as the head of the Dept. of Education as you seem intent on handing the reigns for every office intended to protect and benefit something to the person least qualified to run it and most intent on destroying it.
What a fucktard.
Dunno if Amazon is being wronged here or not. Quite possibly they are.
I must say though that it's heartening to see Democrats be so fond of multi-bazillionaire captains of industry also owning major media outlets. A tad unexpected, but heartening.
She has told the president that the Amazon relationship is beneficial for the Postal Service and gave him a set of slides that showed the variety of companies, in addition to Amazon, that also partner for deliveries.
Look, if the guy wanted your opinion, he'd ask for it. He's TELLING you to raise the rates on Amazon.
It's like explaining to a toddler that eating more ice cream is going to make his tummy hurt. Either give in to his terrible idea or prepare for a big, ugly tantrum.
Donald is going to prison, the question is how deep is Pence's dick in the dirty business of Trump's backside deals?
The USPS is bringing in tons of money through their deals with companies like Amazon. They're not somehow getting screwed. Like in a lot of cases, if you're going to buy a large amount of a product or service, you can generally negotiate to get it at a lower bulk rate. That's not somehow unusual.
It's essentially guaranteed business for USPS. If they double the rate, I'm sure FedEx, UPS, etc., will be quite happy to carry Amazon's packages instead, and the USPS will wind up being the one that loses.
But, what's that matter when you've got an ego to feed? This never was about postal rates. This is about Trump not liking Jeff Bezos, because the Washington Post has the gall to call people's attention to it when Trump says something stupid.
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It seems like the increase would merely put it in line with the cost of existing services.
The whole issue here is that the USPS is subsidizing Amazon delivery, by charging rates lower than what it actually costs to ship things. Other mail fees are subsidizing Amazon, how is that right???
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Now that Amazon leverages USPS more heavily, my shipments seldom arrive on time and often the packages look like they have been through Thunderdome.
This is NOT news.
Wake me up when he does something not boneheaded.
Where are we going and why are we in a handbasket?
You guys are cucks. How about you shut your mouth, bend over, spread your asshole open and let Bezos have his way with you. Amazon is making obscene profits and no one benefiting other than Bezos. At least Trump is trying to do something... all the other politicians just give Bezos his way to the detriment of smaller businesses and low-paid unskilled workers in his factories. Fuck you all.. lame pathetic fucking haters who just want to protect their cheap Chinese shit your order online. You have no fortitude and you have no vision and you have nothing to fucking defend here.
It's fitting that the story comes from the Washington Post since this has nothing to do with Amazon and EVERYTHING to do with the smear job WAPO has been doing to Trump. Bezos owns WAPO so Trump blames Bezos for everything WAPO does. What amazes me is with all the ammunition Trump freely provides the press WAPO still finds ways to push the envelope on twisting the truth.
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I am sorry the company CEO is hurting the Presidents fragile Ego. But shouldn't he be Mr. Business man? Who looks at the big picture and works to make profitable deals no matter what your personal feelings are to the other person?
Uh, that would be competing on the merits. That is not going to make America great again. Not when pitted against the likes of China. We did not elect a tantrum-throwing child in order to make rational decisions.
This story about the U.S. Postal Service, Amazon/Jeff Bezos, and Donald Trump, is case-in-point as to why he never was Presidential material, why he is not a good President now, and why he never will be a good President, ever: Donald Trump is incapable of de-coupling his ego from his personality when it comes to his duty as President of the United States. The lies, the staffing choices based on personal loyalty and not personal integrity and aptitude, the grandstanding (attention whoring, basically), the temper-tantrums when he doesn't get his way, and decision-making based on personal grudges and personal vendettas (as is the case here specifically) are all anyone with two eyes and a functioning brain need to see that he is not now and won't ever be someone who should have been allowed to be elected in the first place. Never mind that he may well be at least as crooked as Tricky Dick or not (we may never really know, but boy oh boy does it look likely), or that he's flat-out incompetent politically (vis-a-vis Israel/Jerusalem), what we've seen since January 2017 is so far as I and so many others are concerned more than enough evidence that Donald J. Trump as POTUS was one of the worst electoral mistakes in the history of the United States, one that this country will spend decades living down with the rest of the world.
Trump is a fucking crybaby just be can the Washington Post justifiably criticizes him. Maybe he did the free shipping he expected....meanwhile Rome burns
Don't leave all that money on the table! Obama forced USPS to give a sweet deal to Amazon just because Bezos is a democrat. Undo the bad deal!!!
They were forced to make pension payments:
1. Because they were chronically under-funding their pension system to balance the books, forcing the federal government to step in and cover their losses
2. In a manner that ALL public and private agencies should handle their pensions - figure out how much they are going to have to pay out over the next 50-70 years, and put away enough money to cover it
The amazing strong president should always personal to intervene in market when biased liberal companies like amazon get too out of hand.
The Postal Service's so-called money problems are nothing but a political game. They're doing just fine.
You are a libtard
At what point will you admit that neither of them are going to jail? Before or after I put my penis in your butt?
...then he should get the states to increase their diesel taxes and weight-mile taxes on trucks. But this would harm the oil industry which pays big money to politicians and so it will never happen.
Any sufficiently unpopular but cohesive argument is indistinguishable from trolling.
So how has Amazon hurt trump in teh past? I have heard mention that it hurts him by de-valuing brick-and-mortar retail space that he is heavily invested in.
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So:
- Trump says the Post Office is giving Amazon (owned by Jeff Bezos) a couple bucks of subsidies per package and orders the Post Office to readjust their special deal.
- The Washington Post (owned by Jeff Bezos) runs an article flaming Trump and making several claims - such as that the deal is good for the Post Office, Trump's underlings are fighting back, yadda yadda yadda.
I trust nobody will be surprised if I take the Post article's claims with a grain (or a 50-pound block) of salt at this point, at least until I see an analysis of Amazon's deal from something other than a newspaper owned byAmazon's founder and bought with part of the billions of dollars he made off Amazon.
Maybe it IS a good deal for the post office. But let's see that from someone without skin in the game.
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The Valley has received enough special treatment. About time.
Bills of attainder are forbidden by the US Constitution. Federal regulations have the force of law, so no Donny, you can't fuck around with Amazon's contract with the USPS.
Really, I understand he's not a lawyer, but he took an oath to protect and defend the Constitution of the United States, a document with which he is manifestly completely unfamiliar. I think there's a case to be made that he can be forced to at least read it once. While wearing his glasses that he refuses to wear in public, which is why he appears to be illiterate in public settings.
The funny thing is : Trump is going to prison. Republicans are going to put him there. And there's nothing you can do about it.
Now, let me allow you to continue whining and threatening violence at me, calling me a libtard or whatever you like despite not knowing me or how I vote.
This is still a free country, despite the occasional nazi going down in flames due to their own unsupportable actions. God Bless.
God forbid the man be right about something, even if it is motivated entirely by petty spite. The fact that the partnership is good for the USPS isn't equivalent to it being good for commerce in general. Amazon is too fucking big. It's dangerous.
I see things like this and imagine if he was able to actually just do what he wants, unencumbered by the little checks and balances we have left.
From just purely the words out of his mouth I could see us nearing third world status in a decade or two if he was left to his own devices. And I say that with not a bit of hyperbole.
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So:
- Trump says the Post Office is giving Amazon (owned by Jeff Bezos) a couple bucks of subsidies per package and orders the Post Office to readjust their special deal.
- The Washington Post (owned by Jeff Bezos) runs an article flaming Trump and making several claims - such as that the deal is good for the Post Office, Trump's underlings are fighting back, yadda yadda yadda.
I trust nobody will be surprised if I take the Post article's claims with a grain (or a 50-pound block) of salt at this point, at least until I see an analysis of Amazon's deal from something other than a newspaper owned byAmazon's founder and bought with part of the billions of dollars he made off Amazon.
Maybe it IS a good deal for the post office. But let's see that from someone without skin in the game.
I think it started with the Post reporting facts about Lyin' Donald and his campaign back in 2016, or earlier.
The alternative was Hillary.
You are dilusional
In the not too distant future, such tedious clunky relics as "laws" and "contracts" and "regulatory commissions" will be a thing of the past. The thugocracy will have won and the US will be the world's biggest banana republic. Everything will be done by presidential decree, the will of the president's family and ruling party.
Postmaster General Megan Brennan has so far resisted Trump's demand, explaining in multiple conversations occurring this year and last that these arrangements are bound by contracts and must be reviewed by a regulatory commission, the three people said.
Yet another example of Trump encouraging illegal activities.
Maybe it IS a good deal for the post office. But let's see that from someone without skin in the game.
You mean like the Post Master General?
They got around this with Nixon by naming him an indicted coconspirator...
So you will take the post office claims that they are abiding by the law that all deals must be profitable as dubious, and consider an almost pathological liar who uses FoxNews Channel as basically his cabinet and calls pretty much all news fake news that doesn't lick his boots?
There is absolutely no reason to think this is some 'bad deal' for the taxpayer aside from The Whiner in chief having a beef with Bezos because he owns the WP and they have the audacity to call out Trump on his never ending stream of bullshit.
You add that Trump has publicly exclaimed/bragged MANY times on how him/his companies avoiding taxes is just being a good businessman and things become very clear.
I mean, how about the Post Office themselves? https://about.usps.com/news/statements/080117.htm. The USPS has been pretty damn clear on this. https://gizmodo.com/former-postmaster-general-says-trump-is-completely-wron-1825025953
You should take the Post's claims with a grain of salt - not because Bezos owns them, but because any single source should be verified. But this has been, repeatedly.
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They wouldn't want to admit they presided over a lousy deal would they? I don't know that it is a lousy deal but people have all kinds of reasons why they would misrepresent something.
love is just extroverted narcissism
This is like watching a dog (a literal dog, a canine, such as a collie or a dachshund) try to instruct a formation of geese on the topics of acrobatic formation flying and the proper use of tail feathers. He knows nothing about what he's talking about, his own experience is of no help since a dog's tail functions entirely differently from those of birds, he doesn't have feathers, he can't fly, aerodynamics are entirely outside his experience and they don't speak the same language.
Only the dog would still have an easier time of it and be more effective in giving these instructions, even when the flock of geese that is the intended recipient of the instructions is miles away, high in the sky, and completely unable to hear the dog's instructions, (and moreover all the members are unaware of the dog's existence).
Donald Trump is plainly and painfully unaware of how any successful business operates, (though he does, I'll grant you, know how to capitalize on his own inevitable failures in business,) likely has no idea how the post office works, either in law or in practice, and so has no way of understanding how a unique business like the USPS functions, (inasmuch as it is not really a business, but rather a part of the federal government that unlike all the others, is obliged to pay its own way in the world, but has the handicap as it competes with private businesses that it can only function as Congress directs, through law and regulation).
Moreover, he has demonstrated complete ignorance of how an economy works, and is basically an empty, vaguely man-shaped shell inflated by the pressure of his own ego, with nothing to justify it. Then he asks people who are themselves completely unqualified to do things to do them, as if he WANTS the US government to fail, and it's hard to see how his goal in everything he does is anything OTHER than that; the unavoidable conclusion based on the totality of observations that can be made by someone not in government, viewing it all from without, is that he's secretly some species of anarchist, or nihilist, or both.
Sure, they could. But the target of trumpos rage is not based on the actual deal itself it's based off of (like usual) misconstrued/misrepresented facts. And as everyone really knows the WP...ya know the "AmazonWashingtonPost" as trump likes to call it.
There was some analysis piece done a while back that said the USPS *could/should be charging more* but that doesn't fall into line even close with the narrative Trump is (most likely parroting from fox news) spewing. Multibillion dollar deals are a tad more complex than 'they could be making more, therefore they are losing money' as Trump asserts: "the U.S. Post Office will lose $1.50 on average for each package it delivers for Amazon"
Anyway, the deal is secret but the numbers aren't. The deal has shown to be a boon for the USPS because all of their numbers were in a freefall beforehand. That is indisputable and directly attributable to the deal with Amazon.
As I posted above: "Yup. Bonds at ~16% interest @600million. There's an absolutely zero chance that whole project wasn't about side deals and whatnot. There was never any way the casino was going to make enough to even cover the interest, roughly 8 million a month. "
USPS is mandated by Congress to budget for future retirements of employees who are not even born yet. Tough to be profitable with that mandate...Easy to target by anti-public-sector folks.
"MUSPSGA! I'm going to double USPS package rates which will double profits! Obama never did that, believe me! Amazon is so unfair, using USPS, can you believe it? Packages! Most people don't know, it's supposed to be a Postal Service. Most people don't know that. Why is Amazon asking the Postal Service to deliver packages? They deliver letters, not packages, so unfair!
MUSPSGA!
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It's my understanding that USPS has something called a "bulk discount rate", and Amazon simply utilizes this when using the postal service. Why should Amazon now be prohibited from doing so, or is the proposal to remove the bulk discount rate entirely?
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follow the money. I'll wager you'll find FedEx & UPS bribes of some kind behind this.
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Well, the thing about other pensions is that they stopped being given because they kept getting raided. What would happen is that they would under-invest them in stocks, come up with an "optimistic" rate of returns and oh no that sucks, turns out there isn't money for the pension we promised you, sorry. Blame the failed pension not the people who promised it to you. Private businesses mostly gave up on pensions, so now we just do that with Social Security instead because at least the government can print money.
As for Amazon, the WaPo is also owned by Bezos and has a stake in this. Whether or not they're getting their money's worth from Amazon's business is something I don't think a single person here has put forward a single cogent argument on in either direction. No, pointing out that the service was once profitable overall does almost nothing to show that Amazon's business with them was cash-positive, that's rather weak evidence. They could have had more profitable lines of business subsidizing the others, you'll have to dive deep into their financials and estimate how much things cost to make a real argument here. If anything, Amazon is like Wal-Mart and ruthless at cutting costs, so one would expect the margins to be thin enough that reasonable people might disagree based on their estimates of different costs.
This is still a free country, despite the occasional nazi going down in flames due to their own unsupportable actions. God Bless.
Hitler was a Progressive. Most of the Nazi platform reads like Progressive/DNC platform planks. The gas chambers Hitler gassed the Jews with were directly a result of Progressives like George Bernard Shaw.
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As a heavy user of Amazon, I really, really hope that a USPS rate hike convinces Amazon to stop using them. My package delivery has gotten much slower and less reliable since they started using USPS rather than UPS. I'd love to see them go back to using UPS and FedEx exclusively.
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For the last 6 months here, AMZ packages AREN'T USPS delivered.
Crazy much?
"Citation please?"
"Trump HAS been unfairly treated by the Washington Post..."
"Bozo"
"Bozo is a big boy.,"
Let's see. Asking for a citation, when you'd have to be illiterate, or partisan, or living in your Mom's basement playing CoD all day, to not know a bazillion examples. And all the rest.
Yes, I see it now. Ladies and Gentlemen, I give you The Deplorable!
Trump Sr. will probably avoid prison, but not because he's innocent or doesn't deserve it. The office of the presidency will likely shield him from indictment.
Trump Jr. on the other hand, is dead to rights. As is Kushner and probably Ivanka.
The only reason those 3 haven't been locked up yet is because they continue to be useful and keep flapping their gums about more and more crimes. The moment they cease to be useful to Mueller, they'll be locked up.
..to book a couple hundred million in losses.
Amazon doesn't need tax payer subsidies to stay profitable. Bezos has enough money to do what he needs. Why shouldn't the USPS postal workers get more money for their pensions?? Why I ask you.
Did you miss the part where the postmaster general said that these arrangements are beneficial to the post office?
Did you miss the fact the financial reports indicate otherwise?
Every single one of you drones brought up pension payments, as if the Post Office could simply not pay pensions. The cost of shipping a package includes servicing debt, but I guess most Slashdot people are too buttery retarded to know even the simplest thing about how a business works.
BTW, "Buttery Retarded" is a phrase that is the sole invention of Autocorrect, but it seemed so apt in this context I bowed the superior wisdom of The Machine.
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Megan Brennan has skin in the game, too. She's also a party to the same deal.
Given that she's expected to have the Post Office's welfare at heart I'd be more impressed by her statements. But I'd prefer an analysis by someone who's not one of the players.
Though I have no indication that Megan has any conflict of interests or is in any way corrupt, a multi-billionaire is in a position to deliver a LOT of incentives. So I'd like to hear an analysis by a less interested party.
BUT
You're totally misconstruing my original statement. "The Postmaster General says ..." is one thing. "Jeff Bezos' newspaper says the Postmater General says ..." is very much another. It's the latter I'm addressing.
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The relevant bit of history is Nixon's enemies list, in which he ordered IRS audits to "screw" his political enemies. In that case, the IRS commissioner Donald Alexander also refused to follow the order to perform the audits, and stored the order in the sealed envelope in his safe until the enemies list was outed by WH Counsel John Dean.
As an aside: there are other bits of that article of impeachment that Trump's folks have been accusing his political enemies of violating, particularly with the FBI and surveillance. That's a neat trick of acting Nixonian whist accusing your enemies of acting Nixonian, I don't know if that counts as projection or muddying the waters, or if it even reaches the heights of Orwellianism. Or perhaps it is simply a childish "no, you are!"
Since he will likely plead the fifth, even though he has consistently lied the entire time to the public, he likely will not lie under oath, technically.
The fact that so many idiots have to rely on a technicality to keep from admitting they elected a piece of shit and correcting the issue, however, is fucking shameful.
It's easy, and lazy, to say "Trump's mad at Bezos, so he's going sfter Amazon's shipping". That's easy, and dumb.
Trump the businessman had his own Boeing 767 airliner and steup his own supply lines for some of his business activities; he clearly understands this stuff and indeed would certainly try to abuse the system as Bezos does were he in that sort of business. Let's face it: even Trump's enemies presume he is ruthless and good at taking advantage.
The alternate view is that businessman Trump is looking at government and saying "Hey, THAT's just stupid!" when he sees the USPS delivering packages at below-cost rates for Amazon, and then the USPS needing constant taxpayer bailouts AND simultaneously brick-ansd-mortar retailers all around the country complaining about unfair competition from Amazon as their incomes (and thus the taxes they pay) dwindle and Amazon dodges taxes. Bezos is being a ruthless businessman, and there is something in his drive for efficiency and performance that is admirable - but that does not mean it's necessarily good for the taxpayer, and it's hardly whacko for Trump to notice that, it's actually a bit refreshing. Most politicians would shut up and hope Bezos would support them or at the very least have his Washington Post not savage them.
You people must have seen, "Donald Trump Toys With Abuse Of Office In Beef Against Washington Post | Rachel Maddow | MSNBC" on YouTube, right?
You had your turn, corporatist, it's time for non corrupt candidate. If it's not a Bernie Sander - like candidate, it's time for an option that is not bought: a third party.
he who rules like a king will die like a king. unpleasantly.
Actually he has done things that send non-rich people to jail, often for a long time. Simple example, he used his teen USA position to go where underage girls were changing.
20 years and billions of dollars and the most Hillary was found guilty of was bieng a bitch. Which isn't a crime.
Goldwater, bengahzi. Private email server which every congressman has too. She never broke a law, but she wasn't moral, or likeable.
Trump dealt with foriegn powers to get dirt on his opponents. Which is dirty and a gray area in law too. He routinely skirted and abused laws. Whether he broke laws I don't know. Don't care. Trump will be Trump. When he is done the USA will be broken, the GOP will be broken. And a year or two later, the democrat party will break.
It will be his gift to the USA, not to make America great but to humble it.
I expect the world's reserve currency to drift away from the dollar in the next 10 years due to his trade negotations destroying American ability and economic growth.
i thought once I was found, but it was only a dream.
If both President and VP go down, then the Speaker of the House becomes President. Then Senate President Pro Tempore.
This leaves us with Paul Ryan and then Orrin Hatch.
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Even if collusion happened, that isn't a crime. Otherwise every democratic candidate and operative since before 2000 would be in jail from working with moveon.org and Soros foundation. Sorry, but at the end of the day, none of what is accused is a crime. I think we can all agree Trump didnt order any hacking of the DNC and benefitted only after things were already public.
Trump is using the same argument ISP use to implement usage based billing. You use more so you cost us more. Contact ? read the fine print ? What fine print ? Oh, wait a minute, there , we just added it. You didn't agree to the new terms ? Go with another provider then. What ? You don't have another provider , so sorry, guess that means we have you where we want you . Only Trump forgets that unlike ISP users , amazon can choose to not only switch providers, they can create their own .
Then the Limit is to be 3% cheaper than UPS
20 years and billions of dollars and the most Hillary was found guilty of was bieng a bitch. Which isn't a crime.
Goldwater, bengahzi. Private email server which every congressman has too. She never broke a law, but she wasn't moral, or likeable.
Looking at the evidence of her server issues, what happened rose to the level of a security violation, not an imprisonable offense. As for Behghazi, I wonder where the outrage was during 2000 to 2008. People need to see how many were killed at US embassies during that golden era.
And I like Barry Goldwater
The shepherds did so well protecting the flock that the sheep no longer believed that wolves existed.
He is ripe for jail. Supporting NRA is close to attempted murder
What good is being president of the most powerfuyl country in the world if you cannot use that power to go after your personal enemies and amass great wealth?
This just in, Trump popukarity has risen since the election.
But of course, that is 'in the tank for Trump' CNN...
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They got around this with Nixon by naming him an indicted coconspirator...
First, there was an actual crime or two committed (Collusion is not a possible crime here)... Second, the charging document did NOT name Nixon, but everyone assumed the unnamed, uncharged conspirator was him.. Third, Nixon never was charged or went to jail (though Ford could be seen as responsible for that).
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Jeff Bezos owns the Washington Post. Trump is pissed off because of unflattering articles the Post writes about him. So Trump figures he can use the USPS to punish Bezos by raising rates.In other words, Trump is trying to use a government agency to go after enemies and this is exactly what landed Nixon in hot water.