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Laptops With 128GB of RAM Are Here (theverge.com)
An anonymous reader quotes a report from The Verge: Brace yourself for laptops with 128GB of RAM because they're coming. Today, Lenovo announced its ThinkPad P52, which, along with that massive amount of memory, also features up to 6TB of storage, up to a 4K, 15.6-inch display, an eighth-gen Intel hexacore processor, and an Nvidia Quadro P3200 graphics card. The ThinkPad also includes two Thunderbolt three ports, HDMI 2.0, a mini DisplayPort, three USB Type-A ports, a headphone jack, and an Ethernet port. The company hasn't announced pricing yet, but it's likely going to try to compete with Dell's new 128GB-compatible workstation laptops. The Dell workstation laptops in question are the Precision 7730 and 7530, which are billed as "ready for VR" mobile workstations. According to TechRadar, "These again run with either 8th-gen Intel CPUs or Xeon processors, AMD Radeon WX or Nvidia Quadro graphics, and the potential to specify a whopping 128GB of 3200MHz system memory."
I don't have any use for something like this, either personally, or in my work. What's the point of something like this? What kind of software needs this kind of juice?
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Is a 15.6 inch 4K display even usable? I doubt you could see it; I still have to squint at my 17" HD screen on my laptop.
The 128GB of RAM is cool though. Not sure most people will need that in a laptop, but it is cool.
... with 3 kB RAM, 8-colour TV display with 176x184 pixels, and magnetic tape storage.
I bet it is just as fun as this machine. At least for me.
People doing CAD, 3D/CGI, Scientific Computing, GPGPU/HighPerformanceComputing use monster workstations every day - Dual Xeon 8, 12 or 16 Core, multiple Nvdia Titan GPUs, 64 to 256GB RAM and so on. That's what you need for today's 3D DCC and CAD design workflows. Anything lower, and everything slows down to a crawl and you don't make your deadlines. These new laptops don't even satisfy what is really needed - at least 8 to 12 CPU cores and room for 2+ powerful GPUs - but will be good enough to get work done on the go. That's the segment they are aimed at - the one that cannot get anything much done on quadcore core i7 CPUs and mobile GPUs.
Why did the chicken cross the road? Because Elon Musk put an AI chip in its head.
They will be stuck in 16GB land forever, all in the name of thin and light and no ports and jacks.
Seriously.
By the way, we use laptops with lots of TB of data storage and our blade servers have a lot more RAM than that, so some of our datasets can't be loaded and processed on laptops.
We would love better laptops.
One of my colleagues is starting a lab soon, and one of the conditions of his startup package was a top of the line laptop suite and blade servers.
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Just checked the dell configurator. What you get is impressive for the price. But the memory tops out at 64gb ecc memory. There are no 128gb options.
Call it a portable workstation, if you like that. I need my "laptops" to move around with me - so I have a properly specced computer with me wherever I work. I don't necessarily need a lot of battery life. Just because you CAN'T see a usecase, doesn't mean there ISN"T one.
few years from now, this will be seen as ridiculously low...
That's a whole lotta spy and bloatware that we are now going to be further expected to have the RAM to maintain.
Check your premises.
That's a LOT of VR porn.
CAD and 3D models are getting really huge these days. Particularly in architectural visualization. So if you need to load the 3D CAD model of an entire car engine, or the highly complex 3D model of an entire shopping center, you may very well run out of RAM if you only have 64GB. In architectural visualization, you may be loading a building model that has dozens of rooms or hundreds of windows and other details. 128GB is not unusual to work on such monster scenes, and it has never been available in mobile form until today. So there are real world uses for that much RAM.
Why did the chicken cross the road? Because Elon Musk put an AI chip in its head.
Dear Apple,
Please have some courage and release a pro version of your laptop. If IBM and Dell can do this, you can do the same. It's the year 2018, 16 GB should be a base, not the maximum.
Call me when they have 640 GB of RAM, thought ought to be enough for anybody !!!
A.
If they sold a model with Ryzen processor and AMD GPU with that much RAM, I would buy it.
Call it a portable workstation, if you like that. I need my "laptops" to move around with me - so I have a properly specced computer with me wherever I work. I don't necessarily need a lot of battery life. Just because you CAN'T see a usecase, doesn't mean there ISN"T one.
The problem is that something that needs that much horsepower almost always needs multiple displays. and those just don't "port" as easily as a laptop; so again, if you have to lug around your environment to be efficient, then why not at least port around a high-end All-In-One, like an iMac Pro. it is available with up to 128 GB RAM, 18-Core Xeons, multiple TB3 ports, built-in 5k display that is large enough to actually SEE things on, etc...
I was curious to see how this beast looked like. I can't find pics on Lenovo's own site, but notebookcheck.net has an article. Pics from the article:
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Lots of applications require large datasets to be loaded - for example, architectural CAD, where you may have a 3D model of a shopping center with 92 different shops and 400 different windows in it. Until now, those datasets could only be opened on expensive desktop CAD workstations that weigh 40 lbs and that you cannot easily take to a construction site or to a client meeting. So these 128GB laptops are aimed at that - going to a construction site or a client's office and opening and manipulating very large CAD or scientific data sets. 6 CPU cores is a bit low for that, but its mostly the GPU that gets used, and its a lot better than having to move a large desktop workstation to a presentation or construction site.
Why did the chicken cross the road? Because Elon Musk put an AI chip in its head.
CAD and 3D models are getting really huge these days. Particularly in architectural visualization. So if you need to load the 3D CAD model of an entire car engine, or the highly complex 3D model of an entire shopping center, you may very well run out of RAM if you only have 64GB. In architectural visualization, you may be loading a building model that has dozens of rooms or hundreds of windows and other details. 128GB is not unusual to work on such monster scenes, and it has never been available in mobile form until today. So there are real world uses for that much RAM.
But not supported by a single 15" laptop display, unless you are TRULY desperate.
Loading and viewing large data sets in science and industry. Maybe you'd do calculations on the data sets on some big network of servers, but at the site you might want to browse the results of your oil and gas survey without access to a network.
And for many of us we only have laptops at work and no longer get powerful desktop workstations. I now have to remotely access the real processing power as it is shared by multiple employees over multiple timezones. I will admit that while inconvenient our new environment is a lot faster than my old 12-core workstation.
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Wrong, the new memory chips are less power hungry, so either you'll get a significant power reduction with a 64GB laptop versus existing 64GB laptops, or a manageable power increase using 128GB.
http://www.hexus.net/tech/news/ram/118634-samsung-10nm-class-32gb-ddr4-sodimms-mass-production/
So, Samsung says the new RAM uses about 4.6W if using 64GB at 2666 speed. So, 9.2W for the 128GB.
lol, I've noticed your user handle. Why get so defensive. Next year you'll be telling us how great the new macintosh is for supporting high density LPDDR4.
I'll buy one for $300 in about 5 years!
Asus makes battery powered 15.6" displays, such that they sit next to the laptop on a kickstand.
Some users need high RAM and only a bunch of command lines, not only devs but e.g. statisticians.
You can lug an iMac Pro maybe but don't forget to wrap it in a kilometer of bubble wrap.
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So at your home office you have your multi-monitor setup, and at your on-site office you have your multimonitor setup, and now you have a 'portable' workstation that you can more easily lug between the two.
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In the non-linked Lenovo blog post, they call it a mobile workstation. The word laptop is not used. Only in "the verge" article do they call it a laptop. I guess the anonymous reader works for "the verge".
http://blog.lenovo.com/en/blog/the-new-thinkpad-p52/
why even call something like this a Laptop?
It's a typographical error. They meant "cell phones".
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You can buy a few monitors to leave on the various desks you'd use something like this on. Much cheaper than entire workstations at each location and you always have your data with you.
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If you cant understand the need for it; then its not for you.
It appears to have a "longer battery life" than the P51, which has a 9-hour battery life.
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In case you wondered, these are regular laptops with four So-DIMM slots but you can get 32GB regular So-DIMMs.
http://www.hexus.net/tech/news/ram/118634-samsung-10nm-class-32gb-ddr4-sodimms-mass-production/
This is good news and means the potential max memory of every system using DDR4 has doubled. So e.g. a $400 laptop with two So-DIMMs that comes with only 4GB memory may have its max capacity doubled from 32GB to 64GB, if the BIOS/firmware is updated or if it's a new model starting from now.
This should expend to desktops, perhaps your desktop will support 128GB up from the old 64GB (or 64GB if it only has two DIMM slots). At least on Coffee Lake, perhaps on older systems as well. Maybe on Zen desktops, we'll be able to know in a few weeks/months.
Small trivia, Core i7 920, i7 980, Xeon variants when not using registered memory have an official max memory capacity of 24GB, but support 48GB in fact. Ditto i5 750, i7 870 which have official max 16GB memory, effective 32GB. This is because 8GB DDR3 DIMMs came out after they launched.
Still waiting them out on my x220, waiting for real keyboards to return.
Exactly this.
Blind apple worshipers cant see a use-case until apple copies something.
Then its all "OMG apple apple apple"
Now I can finally open a pic of yo mamma!
*badum-ching
640YB ought to be enough for anybody.
When you are rendering the screen is totally irrelevant. And when you are not. Modelling in quad view feela ancient, one big view to work shows up all the detail you may need.
CAD models are often detailed down the pitch of the nuts and bolts of large structures.
I have a 64 GB, 1 TB Lenovo P71 with a 17.3" screen - and a 99 Whr battery, stock. I get a solid 7-8 hours on battery from it - enough for about a full day of work (a few hours of meetings, lunch - and that leaves 7-8 hours of run time). Sure, it's 8 pounds - but it can actually be used to design something like a Macbook, whereas a Macbook - can't.
Oh, it also has 4 USB type A connectors, HDMI (great so I can plug into just about any projector without the need for a flaky dongle that is always forgotten), Ethernet (some clients will let me use wired, but it's a big hassle to get WIFI - so I go wired), DisplayPort, SD card reader. Essentially everything I need to not only design stuff, but install a lot of higher end test equipment that is USB connected.
Just because YOU don't need something, doesn't mean someone else doesn't need it. Some of us do real engineering work - like designing the toys and products for companies like Apple, Microsoft Google, and others. And that takes real workstation power. Having it portable means I can work anywhere in the world.
And yeah, it's 8 pounds (just over 10 with the power supply), but if a person cannot carry a 10 pound laptop through an airport, they need to cut back on the Cheetos and Mountain Dew.
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If you can't explain a valid use case; nobody needs it.
And thus far, no one has stated a purpose or problem this solves. I heard someone say vagrant. Lul. Then someone said CAD. Another lul. I do cad using 16gb of ram all day. No issues. Designing skyscrapers. Oh and someone said 128 1gb VMs. Yea because that's a valid use case for a laptop.
You people suck at the corporate tit. You need to realize that we have markets for a reason. And if a lot of people are saying "what's the point?" Then that trumps the 2 people standing up and yelling "but I need one for CAD".
Lul.
Do some heavy graphics processing. I regularly use over 70GB of ram when working with images on my computer. Just because you can't use that much doesn't mean others of us can't. It takes a lot of memory and processing power to make images that are in the multiple gigapixel range that have 16bpc color depth.
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Wow that's amazing a single 128GB stick on one channel for AMD laptops!!!
Lol this.
The same guy keeps posting "cad" whenever someone asks who needs this much ram. He is clueless as fuck. If he needs that much ram for his cad program that something is wrong in his workflow.
Shopping centers LOL. Yea we've had those being designed since forever. But these new ones require 128gb of ram because...well because they are bigger.
This whole thread is people saying "don't want" followed by the same 2 people replying "but but but cad"
It's a big fucking joke.
I mean, why
Because people have use cases for portable workstations with a built-in screen and are smart enough to understand that more power requires a lower battery life, and they're willing to make that trade-off. This is how every market-based purchasing decision anywhere and everywhere is made.
It's probably not the same person you see at Starbucks with a MacBook Air sipping a flat white while being outraged on Twitter.
That's actually OK.
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Pick any other type of large building then.
Stadium, hospital, airport etc.
...and 30 minutes of battery-life, are here!!!
I mean, why even call something like this a Laptop? It is about as able to work without being tethered to an AC power source as is a Cray-1.
Integrated UPS.
That much âoepowerâ has to be sourced from somewhere.
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whatever.
You actually think this laptop will be significantly less than that?
So at your home office you have your multi-monitor setup, and at your on-site office you have your multimonitor setup, and now you have a 'portable' workstation that you can more easily lug between the two.
Meh.
why even call something like this a Laptop?
It's a typographical error. They meant "cell phones".
LOL!
You can buy a few monitors to leave on the various desks you'd use something like this on. Much cheaper than entire workstations at each location and you always have your data with you.
As I said above: "Meh".
It appears to have a "longer battery life" than the P51, which has a 9-hour battery life.
Unpossible. Not with that much RAM, GPU, CPU.
It still has a headphone port. Not courageous enough to remove that?
I'm still on 4GB RAM and not even straining, I understand some people need more but I wonder what the use case for 128GB is!
Arm processor as good that the i5. So laptop urge to grow better than your next phone... but then who need a 128gb laptop ?
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Arm processor as good that the i5. So laptop urge to grow better than your next lenovo/moto phone...
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I mean, why
Because people have use cases for portable workstations with a built-in screen and are smart enough to understand that more power requires a lower battery life, and they're willing to make that trade-off. This is how every market-based purchasing decision anywhere and everywhere is made.
It's probably not the same person you see at Starbucks with a MacBook Air sipping a flat white while being outraged on Twitter.
That's actually OK.
Really? Are you SURE?!?
Well, it does appear there may be some limited use-cases for this kind of laptop; but they are pretty rare, methinks.
My laptop only has 32GB of SSD, thank you.
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Too bad chick aren't impressed with the size of your RAM...
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Max out all the sliders and get ready to drop 10k....
Considering the level of illegal price fixing in DDR4 right now, I can safely say it definitely costs more than the average house.
128 GB is bare minimum to properly run all the malware included with your new laptop.
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whatever.
You actually think this laptop will be significantly less than that?
No slightly less in price not significantly less, but an order of magnitude or two more powerful.
Nothing to see here. Then again, this is 2018 where you can get .5 TB MicroSD Cards for real so go figure.
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I sell second hand devices (laptops, tablets and occasionally desktops) and people are still bringing in brand new windows 10 devices with only 2GB of ram but most now have 4GB. 8GB is rare and I haven't even seen one with more than 16GB yet and i've only seen two of those.
The ones that I have seen were maxed out and didn't support any larger amount of memory. Like the laptop i'm using right now is maxed out with 8GB and the one I use at home is maxed out at 16GB.
Windows needs least 4GB of ram to not page to disk when installing windows updates by itself! It's infuriating that they still sell them with less.
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Yes I am desperate. I'm on site, the manager is going ballistic because the builders fucked up, and he wants to know if the mistake was in the drawing (ours) or theirs.
I think we agree [Lenovo's] actions were heroic. The question is, why were they necessary?
That is because you are ignorant about the enterprise space.
The standard memory for a developer laptop working on cloud products at SAP is 64GB. If you use Hana, you most likely want a local VM and that means 32GB for the database itself. If you need to use XSA/SAC for an integration project, that bumps the VM memory requirements to 64GB.
Desktops are dead here at SAP. My laptop is plugged into the wall most of the time but I need portability. Sometimes I am on battery power while in a conference room or sitting on my couch.
order of magnitude
You keep using those words, I do not think they mean what you think they mean.
... said only 16 Gigs of RAM was possible in a portible computer.
What like the pitch of the threading?
Gtfo I need you to post a screenshot of this because while I'm able to find screenshots of screws in cad, I'm unable to find any renderings that indicate there is detail down to screw pitch when people autocad buildings.
How and why would you design buildings precisely in simulation down the the pitch of the threads in a bolt when the construction workers aren't going to be able to follow the same level of precision constructing the building?
I know shit about architecture but I've seen enough modeling across disciplines to know you should be building your model at different scales
But, now we can model the air molecules so that the rendered walkthrough shows you a mirage due to the airconditioning eddies and the grease motes floating out of the food court.
It's also way more realistic in modeling a Cessna crashing through the roof and torching the holiday crowd.
Anyone spending more than ~$400 on a laptop is getting played.
You are probably better off with your VTech inspired macbook.
Maybe impossible for apple.
for power hungry applications as they don't really handle thermal dissipation as well as their full size workstation brethren.
Not to mention the high end hardware that can deliver the power you need will eat a battery so fast it's shocking.
Since the damn thing is going to have to be plugged in at all times anyway ( with the added bonus of that tiny ass screen ) why
get a laptop for this sort of work ? ( I use CAD and DCC software and I'm sure as hell not going to do it on a 17" monitor on a road trip )
Additionally, I've never really liked laptops as their upgrade possibilities are extremely limited ( if they exist at all ).
Nope. CAD is almost always done on a single screen - you don't need dual screens. I have an extra one at home, it's nice to toss up Outlook and a music player on the laptop and use the bigger screen for CAD, but I'm essentially working in a single screen. Same as when I'm on the road.
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Yes. A Lenovo P71, fully loaded with 64 GB of RAM, 2 TB of SSD, and the 17.3" 4K screen, comes in at $4166. I wouldn't expect this new unit, with more memory, SSD, but a smaller screen, to be significantly more cost, certainly no more than $5000.
And of course an iMac Pro is by NO means a "portable" solution. I can toss my P71, power supply, mouse, 4 days of clothes, toiletries, and UE Boom 2 and cables into an Everki Titan backpack and go anywhere. I did just that last week, spending 8 days in Asia at 3 factories and 2 hotels. Can't do that with an iMac, no way no how. I can pick up my laptop and run between floors in buildings, hard to do that with an iMac Pro - even to move just a desk or two over.
Now, you CAN use an iMac (running Windows, of course, if you're doing any serious hardware engineering) Pro to do everything, and rely upon a second laptop to remote in to your iMac Pro. But I dare you to try to do 3D CAD with 100-200 msec of latency - good luck getting the right surfaces or reference points selected! And that is a LOW latency for many situations, such as a Starbucks, an airport lounge - or overseas.
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Wow. I have a 14 GB Pro/E file for a mid-sized product I'm working on right now. Running that on a 16 GB machine is like running through frozen molasses. Having my 64 GB machine right now at least allows me to spin it as I'm working on surfaces, in something close to real time, rather than "move mouse and wait 5 seconds for first move; 5 seconds for second move; 5 seconds for 3rd move"... And don't even get me started on an FEA impact analysis of an ABS enclosure hitting a concrete floor from a 1.5 meter fall...
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Versus the option of not even being able to SEE the file because you do not have a suitable portable computer on site? I'll take "it's a bit small but workable on a 15.6 inch display for $200, Alex" any day...
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So if it doesn't work for you, and there isn't an Apple alternative, the case must not exist and be tiny? Do you realize that iPhones make up about 15% of the market, they must be tiny so should be ignored and dropped. After all, if 7 out of 8 people use Android, then why does iOS even exist? Clearly it's pretty rare...
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Does anyone care?
Between 1 and 10 hours for the P71, a bigger version of this. In real-world use, I see about 5-8 hours on a charge, doing a mix of CAD, surfing, and e-mail. Apparently you can watch around 14 hours of video on a charge... So plenty of battery life. Of course, it's not "courageously" thin, but then this is a real man's computer, not something for a limp-wristed pantywaist who traipses around with skinny jeans raving about saving 0.1m thickness on the latest phone because COURAGE!
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That's almost enough memory to run Firefox.
Macs have had 128 gig for the past few years and still do.....wait that's SSD. Damn Apple.
I have some large 100gb databases that i store with redis. It would be nice to keep a local copy on a laptop for when i'm without internet access, and use them at full speed.
My desktop doesn't do 128GB. Why the hell does a crappy laptop come first?
I probably don't want to see the price of these things...
Who cares, they still freeze when they decide to update right in the middle when I want to use them.
Why am I bracing myself for a laptop?
That version does not have direct from disk streaming.
Have you tried taking an iMac on a plane? I guarantee you it is more cumbersome than one of these laptops. Screens are readily available at some sites to borrow if necessary. Workstations with licensed cad software matching your exact version, not so much. These laptops are a god send for certain people
Decent specs but they don't mention how thin it is! Will I look cool using this laptop or not?
There’s some logic in doing this kind of work in the cloud. It doesn’t save much money or effort in the long run having a development environment on your workstation.
If it’s not the RAM limiting you, it’s the data sets, storage, or shared environments, or even just leaving it running when you head home, or having another set of eyes collaborate on your problem.
That said, it is stupid Apple doesn’t have beefy pro laptops as an option, but running a dev environment on your laptop should not be the reason.
Anywhere you don't have net access but do have biggish data and a need for number crunching. Medical in the field comes to mind.
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whatever.
You actually think this laptop will be significantly less than that?
No slightly less in price not significantly less, but an order of magnitude or two more powerful.
I'd truly like to see something that is an order or two of magnitude more powerful than an 18 core iMac Pro, that didn't also require a rack.
The power supply will no doubt weigh 1kg.
Nope. CAD is almost always done on a single screen - you don't need dual screens. I have an extra one at home, it's nice to toss up Outlook and a music player on the laptop and use the bigger screen for CAD, but I'm essentially working in a single screen. Same as when I'm on the road.
Maybe that's the way you prefer to work; but not me.
Between 1 and 10 hours for the P71, a bigger version of this. In real-world use, I see about 5-8 hours on a charge, doing a mix of CAD, surfing, and e-mail. Apparently you can watch around 14 hours of video on a charge... So plenty of battery life. Of course, it's not "courageously" thin, but then this is a real man's computer, not something for a limp-wristed pantywaist who traipses around with skinny jeans raving about saving 0.1m thickness on the latest phone because COURAGE!
A "Real Man's Computer"
Now I KNOW you've got issues...
They don't need to be. At least in my line of work.
Here's what I've found. Getting access to external displays is relatively easy, and even if you can't, well you've at least got the laptop's internal display. The key thing you need is an array of display cables. Then if the remote worksite can supply a display you can connect to it (for some reason, I've found that the commonly available displays in my company only come with DVI cables. I need DisplayPort). I bought DP and HDMI cables for my laptop bag for just this purpose.
Same goes for external mice and keyboards. I pack an external mouse because that's a no-brainer. External KB, I rely upon the remote site to supply or I do without. But again, gaining access to external keyboards is trivially easy. Therefore I rarely have to do without.
I've been doing this for 10 years. It works great. And I have a very functional laptop when I do travel or work in odd locations. Even in airports I can usually find an A/C outlet when I need to work for more than an hour.
I thought the lastet intel architecture work best with RAM amounts divisible by 3 due to the CPUs being in blocks of 3. Wont 128GB will be inefficient and if your going big you want maximum efficiency.
Why, because I actually want something that works, has the connectors pretty much needed (no dongle hell!), and lasts for a day? Are you so fragile that an extra 6 pounds will hurt you?
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What CAD do you do? What mechanical team do you work with?
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NVIDIA Quadro P3200 only has 6 GB max. 128GB described above is computer memory, not GPU memory, so you don't know what you're talking about.
For a dollar!
Why, because I actually want something that works, has the connectors pretty much needed (no dongle hell!), and lasts for a day? Are you so fragile that an extra 6 pounds will hurt you?
No, not at all.
It's because you feel the need to bolster your argument, and hardware choice, by impugning the manhood of those who choose to work another way.
Oh, and what about the millions of female engineers? Are they less "manly" if they don't work the same way you do?
What CAD do you do? What mechanical team do you work with?
Not any for about the last decade, unfortunately. The 2008 economic crash nicely put an end to THAT career-path, unfortunately.
Now I just write stupid Windows business software. So I am already spending my time in Hell; hoping to get "time served" when I die.
How about those same folks who said I don't need 128 GB of RAM, and that if I was "serious" about it I should just pack an iMac Pro around... Sound familiar?
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fake news. Optane aint memory
Man, This is Huge.... 128GB of Ram .... Back in days laptops used to come in 128 of storage.,..
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Seriously, RAM is so cheap now that to optimize for it misses the point. You know what is expensive? People's time. That's where the cost is. If you have to optimize for something, optimize the use of people's time.
Optimizing for RAM, CPU or disk space is optimizing some of the cheapest resources we have. That's just dumb. Don't be dumb.
So forgive me if I'm wrong, but what you're saying is you had a two-monitor use case over a decade ago and you no longer use it because you're now writing 'stupid Windows business software'.
Much as I called Rooster a buffoon in a thread the other day, I think he has more of a valid point than you do.
It's more a desktop that you can pick up and take with you. The battery is more a built-in UPS. All I really care for the battery is that let keep the computer sleep without being plugged in while I'm taking it somewhere. And generally speaking, Lenovo has done a pretty good job with the thermal solutions. Yes, you can hear the fans, and yes it will shoot hot air out the sides and/or back. But unlike some poorly designed laptops *cough* Apple *cough* it won't burn your balls and throttle the CPU if you actually try to use the computational power you bought. Yes, that means it's a bit thicker. And has some unsightly vents. And yes, the case is plastic. Boo-fucking-hoo.
Hey, lets play the favorite Apple fanboy game - build the equivalent Mac. Oh wait, YOU CAN'T. Not at any price. So the next Apple fanboy game - you don't need something like this. Because Apple doesn't make anything like this. So you don't need it, by definition. Of course, if Apple announced something this tomorrow, then the Macfags would go on and on about how wonderful it is and how Apple "invented" the mobile workstation market and blah blah blah.
Hey, why don't you go take your Apple toy computers and sit in the corner so the real engineers can do some actual work? Thanks.
imac pro no repair over priced upgrades and storage locked on MB Starting at only $4999
whatever.
You actually think this laptop will be significantly less than that?
No slightly less in price not significantly less, but an order of magnitude or two more powerful.
I'd truly like to see something that is an order or two of magnitude more powerful than an 18 core iMac Pro, that didn't also require a rack.
You mean something an order of magnitude faster than a overheating unupgradable tin can from 5 years ago? Have you tried wallmart?
imac pro no repair over priced upgrades and storage locked on MB Starting at only $4999
whatever.
You actually think this laptop will be significantly less than that?
No slightly less in price not significantly less, but an order of magnitude or two more powerful.
I'd truly like to see something that is an order or two of magnitude more powerful than an 18 core iMac Pro, that didn't also require a rack.
You mean something an order of magnitude faster than a overheating unupgradable tin can from 5 years ago? Have you tried wallmart?
We were talking about the iMac Pro, you dolt.
You obviously haven't seen how much power a 33MHz 486SX consumes. One would think these 8-core 2.1GHz monsters would kill the battery in your phone in 14 seconds, yet here we are sucking 1W at peak.
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