Motorola Receives Backlash For Revealing a 'Shameless' Copy of the iPhone X as Its New Model (bbc.co.uk)
Smartphone brand Motorola has been criticised for revealing a "shameless" copy of the iPhone X as its new model. BBC: Many phone-makers have copied the look of the iPhone X, which has a smaller bezel around the screen and a "notch" at the top that houses a camera. However, reviewers said the new Motorola P30 was a "brazen" and "egregious" rip-off of Apple's flagship device. Lenovo, which owns the Motorola brand, has not yet responded to the criticism.
[...] Commenting on the similarity between the Motorola P30 and the iPhone X, technology blogger Marques Brownlee called it the "most shameless rip yet." News site Mashable said Motorola "even went so far as to adorn the screen with a wallpaper that's a dead ringer for Apple's default wallpaper." News and reviews site Technobuffalo said the design was an "egregious clone" that was "nearly impossible to distinguish" from the iPhone X. Tech news site The Verge pointed out that Google's image recognition algorithms described photos of the P30 as "iPhone."
[...] Commenting on the similarity between the Motorola P30 and the iPhone X, technology blogger Marques Brownlee called it the "most shameless rip yet." News site Mashable said Motorola "even went so far as to adorn the screen with a wallpaper that's a dead ringer for Apple's default wallpaper." News and reviews site Technobuffalo said the design was an "egregious clone" that was "nearly impossible to distinguish" from the iPhone X. Tech news site The Verge pointed out that Google's image recognition algorithms described photos of the P30 as "iPhone."
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Now we get to see stupid articles about the Apple v Motorola lawsuit for the next 5 years.. uggghhh
then the iPhone X was not so technically challenging.
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The Sharp Aquos series were the first phones with ultra thin bezels and the notch design. Essential copied, and Apple copied, no matter what you Apple fanboys say.
And while Motorola is owned by Lenoco on paper, the P20 was designed by the American team, so that's the 3rd time around the Americans are stealing and copying.
Like it or not, that's the truth.
motorola (aka motorola mobility) IS owned by the chinese now.. and copying products and tech, often poorly, is what they do.
Huawei has registered "P30" for use in the European Union (at least): https://euipo.europa.eu/eSearc....
It has face unlocking - based on cameras. Cramming two cameras in the front of a phone is not very technically challenging, even less so when you consider as someone else said the device doesn't have an edge to edge screen (screen does not extend to bottom edge).
People accuse Apple all the time of valuing style over substance. But here's a phone that did not have to have a notch, it just did it because the iPhone X made everyone think notches looked cool, ignoring the functional reasons WHY the iPhone X has a notch to begin with.
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Put any phone side by side at they all look like an iphone, or a galaxy etc etc. The only surefire way to tell the difference and see whom the phone is attached to. If its attendant is a hipster whom is technologically illiterate the phone is an iphone, if its attendant is a neck-beard it is an android. Anyone else its all just shades of grey.
And makes a clear-cut knockoff.
Is anyone here really that surprised? I'm surprised they didn't call it the P10 (or PX).
The major difference is that it costs $300 instead of $999. That gets people upset.
in the same factories with more or less the same off the shelf parts (I think Apple's big enough to do their own CPUs but that's about it), right? This is like complaining your Dell laptop is a shameless rip off of an HP. It's not like the good 'ole days of the C64 and Atari 400.
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Why is this bad thing? Do you like the look and feel of an iPhone but don't like iOS, now you have an option. They were obviously very deliberate in creating a phone they thought would attract iPhone fans. Maybe it's because it doesn't cost more since there's no Apple logo on it that people are upset. Every damn SUV out there looks the same now. No one complains when calls Kia shameless when they make their SUVs look like Lexus.
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To be fair, phones didn't start looking like the iPhone until the iPhone came out. Check out what the first Android phone looked like (the HTC Dream) that came out a bit after the release of the iPhone, then check out the second model that came out a year later (The MyTouch 3G) They dropped the keyboard *real* fast after the iPhone came out.
It's functional. So how many ways are there to efficiently implement a notched screen?
I'll leave the rounded rectangle part as an exercise for the reader.
The entire PC / laptop market had its origins in "clones." We used to celebrate this, even as the lawsuits flew every which way. Now we get media hit pieces and angry apple fanbois demanding explanations.
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For those without any history, Windows copied MacOS, and MacOS copies Xerox PARC.
This happens all the time, and is completely normal. Anything that's designed is copied. Ever wonder why there's always these similar looks in fashion? Copying. Nobody calls it "shameless" or "brazen" though. Someone came up with glass clad skyscrapers in the 60s or maybe the 70s. Now they all look that way, but nobody gets all uppity about "brazen copying".
Get over it Apple fanbois, you can't, and never have been able to "own" design elements like this.
don't care one bit how it looks
i only care how it works
and considering it runs android... xD
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True, it was announced six months before the iPhone came out. I don't think you can make the argument that it affected the design of the iPhone.
I wish ignorant reporters would do a little fact checking and stop going on about Android phones blatantly copying the iPhone X notch. The Essential phone (an Android device) was released with a notch (albeit a smaller one) six months before the iPhone X, so it's not exactly an original "Apple" idea. As for the other aesthetics of the devices, there's not much variation you can do on a flat rectangular device that's mostly/all screen on one side and mostly flat on the other.
Are we back discussing whether or not rounded corners on a frikkin' phone qualifies as patent infringement? Bore me to tears, this is another tempest in a very similar teapot.
"Good artists copy; great artists steal."?
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Competitors are falling for Apple's ingenious trap, and building copycat phones with frickin' HOLES in the middle of the SCREEN! Wahahahaha!
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How dare they create a rectangular device with rounded corners, full screen, and front/rear facing cameras!
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What point? That a year after the iPhone X came out, Motorola came out with a copy? Keep in mind the iPhone was Apple's first phone. The Motorola knockoff is an existing edge-to-edge design with a notch added.
but better.
Two-three years ago a production engineer at Samsung was working on flexible displays for smartwatches and phones and designed & ordered a new etching tool to cut the displays to fit without an edge (cut and bevel). The machine was developed, tested and deployed and samples were placed in the catalog including a few identical to what those idiots are calling "the iPhone X notch design" with your typical initial high BoM. Gradually, the BoM went down after a few Japanese smartwatch brands used them and Apple made a huge order which drove Samsung to fit all their lines with the new machines and bring down the BoM to just a few bucks above the previous machining only representing the longer etching times. That very same week the new catalog came out, orders were made from all over.
This is how consumer brand products are made people. The factory lists options and your designers pick colors and finish. Yes even Apple does this. Sometimes they add an extra touch by making their own cases or using some exotic material no one else uses... But that's not innovation. That's just more money thrown at the problem. Sometimes it results in trends. Sometimes it results in phones you're not holding right... Almost always, it doesn't result with a better functioning product.
Regardless, even if you dare call yourself a tech reporter without know all these basic facts about product design, crediting Apple for designs people saw in Samsung ads marketing their new flexible displays and folks still remember is some idiotic shit.
#runtout
Good artists copy, great artists steal. --Steve Jobs
So when Apple and Microsoft were ripping off *WHOLESALE* from Xerox, its entire software platform, heavily emulating its driver and device technology (and they didn't have anything anywhere near what Xerox had, and Xerox had set up its Palo Alto Research Complex to heavily underwrite and fund the work of Doug Englebart and Alan Kay among others), and they ripped off everything they say wholesale.) Now, some 30+ years later, "hey, they be rippin us off over there... :( "
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they are all about the same at this point.
There are only so many ways to make a flat slab with a screen notch, so um.. I don't see it.
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All a phone is these days is a screen with a notch. Thanks Essential, for starting that shit.
Looks more like a Xiaomi Mi8 to me
See the M on the back? Kind of gives the game away. Otherwise it's another of a hundred similar looking slabphones.
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Chinese junk knockoffs.
If the phone fits inside those mass produced iphone cases - THIS IS FRICKIN' BRILLIANT! When prices are close, of the major things that makes me hesitant to buy anything other than an iPhone, galaxy, or pixel is the cost of the extra's. Especially since I tend to prefer those wallet-style cases. Right now all phones are so similar in size and shape, it's a shame there isn't a common case format.
Tell them to fuck off.
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... this should show Apple-sheep how overpriced their products are.
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