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Silicon Valley's Saudi Arabia Problem (nytimes.com)
An anonymous reader shares a report: Somewhere in the United States, someone is getting into an Uber en route to a WeWork co-working space. Their dog is with a walker whom they hired through the app Wag. They will eat a lunch delivered by DoorDash, while participating in several chat conversations on Slack. And, for all of it, they have an unlikely benefactor to thank: the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia. Long before the dissident Saudi journalist Jamal Khashoggi vanished, the kingdom has sought influence in the West -- perhaps intended, in part, to make us forget what it is. A medieval theocracy that still beheads by sword, doubling as a modern nation with malls (including a planned mall offering indoor skiing), Saudi Arabia has been called "an ISIS that made it." Remarkably, the country has avoided pariah status in the United States thanks to our thirst for oil, Riyadh's carefully cultivated ties with Washington, its big arms purchases, and the two countries' shared interest in counterterrorism. But lately the Saudis have been growing their circle of American enablers, pouring billions into Silicon Valley technology companies.
While an earlier generation of Saudi leaders, like Prince Alwaleed bin Talal, invested billions of dollars in blue-chip companies in the United States, the kingdom's new crown prince, Mohammed bin Salman, has shifted Saudi Arabia's investment attention from Wall Street to Silicon Valley. Saudi Arabia's Public Investment Fund has become one of Silicon Valley's biggest swinging checkbooks, working mostly through a $100 billion fund raised by SoftBank (a Japanese company), which has swashbuckled its way through the technology industry, often taking multibillion-dollar stakes in promising companies. The Public Investment Fund put $45 billion into SoftBank's first Vision Fund, and Bloomberg recently reported that the Saudi fund would invest another $45 billion into SoftBank's second Vision Fund. SoftBank, with the help of that Saudi money, is now said to be the largest shareholder in Uber. It has also put significant money into a long list of start-ups that includes Wag, DoorDash, WeWork, Plenty, Cruise, Katerra, Nvidia and Slack. As the world fills up car tanks with gas and climate change worsens, Saudi Arabia reaps enormous profits -- and some of that money shows up in the bank accounts of fast-growing companies that love to talk about "making the world a better place."
While an earlier generation of Saudi leaders, like Prince Alwaleed bin Talal, invested billions of dollars in blue-chip companies in the United States, the kingdom's new crown prince, Mohammed bin Salman, has shifted Saudi Arabia's investment attention from Wall Street to Silicon Valley. Saudi Arabia's Public Investment Fund has become one of Silicon Valley's biggest swinging checkbooks, working mostly through a $100 billion fund raised by SoftBank (a Japanese company), which has swashbuckled its way through the technology industry, often taking multibillion-dollar stakes in promising companies. The Public Investment Fund put $45 billion into SoftBank's first Vision Fund, and Bloomberg recently reported that the Saudi fund would invest another $45 billion into SoftBank's second Vision Fund. SoftBank, with the help of that Saudi money, is now said to be the largest shareholder in Uber. It has also put significant money into a long list of start-ups that includes Wag, DoorDash, WeWork, Plenty, Cruise, Katerra, Nvidia and Slack. As the world fills up car tanks with gas and climate change worsens, Saudi Arabia reaps enormous profits -- and some of that money shows up in the bank accounts of fast-growing companies that love to talk about "making the world a better place."
The kind that financed 9/11.
Problem solved.
Next problem?
I don't respond to AC's.
The US gets very little oil from the ME. We protect shipping routes mostly. Lefties still working from 1970s data.
Typically there is a jury involved if death by volts in the USA
9/11 hijackers were from Saudi Arabia. Fuck all those camel jockey sand n1ggers.
Only the State obtains its revenue by coercion. - Murray Rothbard
I never understood why so many people support, visit, and defend that country
the beheaded had a trial too
Every time I hear about Wag I canâ(TM)t help misremember the commercial they had with Olivia Munn. I always remember it as her turning around and going, âoeHey! My dog just shit all over your lawn!â Seriously one of their selling points was that the dog walker would log the location and time of each dog turd produced.
If you've ever worked with Silicon Valley types you'd know most of them will sell their mom for a buck. Nobody gives a shit where their next round comes from as long as it does come.
Lots of talk, followed by some back room dealing. A compromise will be reached whereas the US and Europe can take some token action that Saudi Arabia will make strident statements against and will make some token responding gesture - neither of which will substantively impact each other.
The West is just too dependent on Saudi oil... plus they’re considered friendly to western interests. No one will have the will to really punish them.
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I can't wait until the Saudis are in their Mercedes and Rolls being pulled by camels. Hopefully the west has substituted something else for oil based transportation by then.
The US is now the world's largest producer of oil and is exporting some of it, but at the rate the US is using it up there will be a time when there's none left or at least its cost is not competitive for its use as a source of energy.
Prison is going to suck for Trumptard traitors, except for the unsolicited prison sex they obviously crave. Rape this inbred nazi faggot to death, make it so.
The US gives the death penalty for murder and worse.
Saudi Arabia gives the death penalty (or tries to) for speaking out:
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/saudi-arabia-seeks-unprecedented-death-penalty-woman-activist-n902771
They also apply the death penalty for things that aren't even crimes in civilized countries, like sodomy, blashpemy and witchcraft:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capital_punishment_in_Saudi_Arabia#Other_offences
Also, the US is a Democracy, not a theocracy.
Saudi Arabia is still an enemy to the united states on the same level as Iraq & Libya ever were.
Good thing for them that we're a bunch of greedy cowards now. You can attack us on our soil all you want as long as you grease a few palms.
take a look at how much influence the Saudis have bought in mainstream media outlets and academia. There's a reason the former will lie through their teeth about Israel even as Hamas claims armed combatants and live video shows armed terrorists with guns and high explosives, and latter is increasingly full of people who will openly violently attack jewish students just for existing while heaping praise on arab colonialism.
A bullet may have your name on it but splash damage is addressed "To whom it may concern."
Yawn.
Next.
There might be a slight difference between executing (different than murder) someone who was themselves a mass murderer after they've sat in prison for decades and have had several rounds of appeals as opposed to executing someone for homosexuality, being a women's rights activist, or allegedly practicing sorcery. If you're lucky you might even be crucified.
Also, not all U.S. states have a death penalty, and of those that do, many don't use the electric chair. Wikipedia indicates that some states allow convicted criminals to choose it if they so want, but that there aren't a lot of states actually using it. Most of it is by lethal injection, and I'd say that there are probably more humane ways than that to kill a person if you're going to do it. Nitrous oxide asphyxiation seems like a pretty painless way to me, and probably a hell of a lot less expensive.
A medieval theocracy that still beheads by sword
So the US is a medieval theocracy that murders with volts?
I believe that there are three different claims being made in the statement:
Saudi Arabia is a theocracy
Saudi Arabia is medieval
Saudi Arabia uses "beheading by sword" as a method of capital punishment
I don't see a claim that "beheading by sword" makes Saudi Arabia a medieval theocracy, so it does not logically follow that the United States would be a medieval theocracy that "murders with volts".
According to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_Saudi_Arabia Saudi Arabia is a theocracy. Depending upon one's point of view, there are aspects of Saudi Arabian society that appear to not have progressed beyond what Europe practiced in the European medieval period. Saudi Arabia does use beheading as a method of capital punishment https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capital_punishment_in_Saudi_Arabia.
So the claim that "Saudi Arabia is a medieval theocracy that still beheads by sword" seems to me to be based on a set of independent facts. I don't see evidence of a claim that the manner of execution determines whether a nation-state is a medieval theocracy.
We are neither medieval or a theocracy. This kind of a moral equivalency is a rot in this country. We do not dismember people for saying mean things about the government.
No the US is a racist surveillance state ruled by grumpy white old men
To get the Saddam treatment.
SA always had the same laws as the IS. Yet they were America's best friend in the region.
Because their leaders obeyed the USA.
Who here remembers when Saddam was America's best friend aka henchman in the region?
Suddenly he became "the new Hitler" literally over night. Only beause he stopped obeying, and attacked Quwait instead of Iran as he was told to, because he was tired of losing. That is literally all that changed. He already was an asshole before.
And why did he keep losing? Because Iran had the third or fourth largest military in the world.
And why was that?
Because Iran got the same treament before!
Does anyone remember, when *Iran* was the USA's best friend in the region? "As a stronghold against communism." (As if the Russian dictatorship wasn't a big enough enemy of communism themselves. Stretching out the "transition phase" ad infinitum.)
Then, the Iranians suffered so much under their US puppet dictator, that they fell for religion, and in their desperation, chose a religious nutjob. Which would be like the USA having a literal revolution, to install the WBC, just to get rid of Trump.
Bam, they were the new Hitlers.
Why do you think with recently taking Russia out lf the convenieg enemy figure closet again, suddenly they try to get along with Iran again, just when a new US-friendly leader jumps out of nowhere.
So now it's Saudi Arabia's turn. To be turned back into a desert wasteland.
Did they get too cocky? Or is it simply that China bough the oil instead and became their new oil best buddies, and now that the USA got more oil-independent, the old SA shit does not fly anymore?
Oh well... at least it will be the the USA's very first actual blow against terrorism. ;)
Which will come back to bite them, once the Russia scarecrow is all used up again, and they realize, that idiot TrumpObamaBush emptied the closet.
This isn't really news for those who pay attention.
We suffer more in our imagination than in reality. - Seneca
It's nice to know who is subsidizing drunks getting home from a night at the bars.
..who couldn't even find an excuse to get out of jury duty.
Who are as easy to influence as "voters", and basically jump on the first rage bandwagon that tickles their triggers.
As opposed to, you know, ... the actual experts in law. Judges!
Not even mentioning, that the biggest expertise of and adhetence to law does not mean shit, if the law itself is basically just a codified version of dictatorial cruel troglodyte-level primitive childish rage-based revenge violence against the closest scapegoat, based on invalid logic, belief, and not even a whiff of scientific principles.
Dark ages VS pretentious dark ages behind a curtain/veil.
No difference to me.
They way jerked the rag under Elon Musk shows they are not to be trusted. Tell him, "I am the final authority, I approve, let us do the deal at 419$", Elon, "what about 420?". "OK deal". The idiot tweeting prematurely was probably not part of the plan, just an additional unexpected bonus.
sed -e 's/Chuck Norris/Rajnikant/g' joke > fact
Whataboutism is a propaganda technique first used by the Soviet Union, in its dealings with the Western world.[1] When Cold War criticisms were levelled at the Soviet Union, the response would be "What about..." followed by the naming of an event in the Western world.[2][3] It represents a case of tu quoque (appeal to hypocrisy),[4] a logical fallacy that attempts to discredit the opponent's position by asserting the opponent's failure to act consistently in accordance with that position, without directly refuting or disproving the opponent's initial argument.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism
Shutting down free speech with violence isn't fighting fascism. It IS fascism!
Hillary Clinton's campaign financier was the House of Saud and China iirc. Isn't it funny how the USA's biggest enemies were behind her?
BIGGEST ENEMY OF ALL = -> https://www.infowars.com/trump... & oddly enough the HISTORICALLY KNOWN CROOKS that run that "fine institution" are related to the Arab & have been KICKED NATION TO NATION thru time.
I don't know who's worse. I do know we ought to let THEM once & for all FIGHT IT OUT THEMSELVES & finish it - but WE stay the hell OUT of it.
(Keep the USA way OUT OF EVERYONE ELSE'S NATION PERIOD - that's bullshit to tell others how to live OR DIE in THEIR OWN HOUSE & by their own brand of "stupid" that COSTS US IN THE END ANYHOW - playing us like morons by using GREEDY bribable officials & BOUGHT OFF MEDIA to brainwash the masses to do so - yea, "stop the spread of communism" ala VietNam right? WRONG! Doesn't work but WAR PROFITEERS (biggest moneymakers of all) profit @ your loved ones expense!).
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Yup. blatant attempt at emotional manipulation. Hack journalism
Why wasn't Saudi money a "problem" before Koshoggi disappeared? Hell, Koshoggi isn't likely at all to be murdered in the Middle East for political reasons and the guy who probably ordered his murder seems a helluva lot more open to non-fundamentalist-Islam ideals than his predecessors.
And yeah, that's what it comes down to: fundamentalist Islam with its homophobic, misogynistic, violent hatreds.
Which brings us to: If Saudi Arabia's policies are a "problem", why the hell are you ignoring all of Islam?
See subject: I asked to be corrected IF fact I used is off & you can't manage it vs. https://news.slashdot.org/comm... - only BOGUS "downmods" I overrode SO KEEP BLOWING THOSE DOWNMOD POINTS you have a FINITE supply of... I just win in the end, always!
* ... & you KNOW it...
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Thats why criticism of Islam is against community rules.
and that other countries, sometimes merely because they exist, are the axis of evil. One man disappears and suddenly the whole world should pretend Saudi Arabia doesn't exist.
Meanwhile, a dozen men, women, and children are killed every day by American drone strikes, but we're not supposed to talk about that.
that the accusation of whataboutism is itself a form of tu quoque fallacy, as it dismisses criticisms of one's own behavior to focus instead on the actions of another, thus creating a double standard. Those who use whataboutism are not necessarily engaging in an empty or cynical deflection of responsibility: whataboutism can be a useful tool to expose contradictions, double standards, and hypocrisy.[126][127]
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism
what a load of shit
They are also a 5% owner of Tesla, and apparently Elon Musk has discussed further investment with them and also selling the company to them. I guess he likes those guys.
maybe if jury duty payed more it would not suck.
Try full min wage + free meal + full IRS mileage + parking (or full travel costed covered)
The last time I had it the pay just really only coved the public transport costs to get there.
Dear "SOROS loser": Newsflash - your side did what it ALWAYS does, lose - accept it (or can't you accept REALITY?)...
* Apparently not!
(ALL YOU DO is "HIDE" behind UNIDENTIFIABLE anonymous posts FURTHER making yourself out a FOOL you dimwitted little PAID OFF PUPPET thinking he can "fool" others with your BULLSHIT, lol!)
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Comparing the US judicial system to the SA Sharia system is like comparing apples to nuclear warheads. Your false equivalency is a prime example of the type of bullshit that has empowered the mob rule. And the mob seems incapable of understanding that their mindless sloganeering, over the top hyperbole, and general idiocy will draw a response just as mindless by those on the other side. If you are incapable of being honest in your criticisms then you would be better off shutting the hell up.
I agree that the mob are morons, but what makes you so much better? And who gets to decide who's better anyway? To me, you look like a tyrant and a mob too, for example.
And how the hell does a grown person still not realize the contradiction in a "representative leader"? Do they lead? Which means they tell others what to do. Or do they represent? Which means following what others tell them to do.
They are simply tyrants who try to justify their tyranny by saying that they represent someone.
The only case where that is true, is with lobbyist politicians, that are corporate employees, being put into political positions. But they only represent their owners, of course. And those are the leaders.
In any case, you desperately need to look up what a democracy is. Because the tyranny of the majority is its whole damn point. If you don't like it, that's OK, but don't act like you don't dislike democracy then.
Yeah, fuck your cognitive dissonance. Sideways. With a wire brush.
the beheaded had a trial too
Wasn't the case for Princess Mishaal bint Fahd
Pain is merely failure leaving the body
*sigh* And this in a time when one doesn't even have to go outside to get information and learn things.
USA have a variant of representative democracy where people elect leaders which in term can elect others (current example: supreme court judges). And that is one type of democracy. You may be thinking of direct democracy where people directly vote for different alternatives, or more likely of some variant of an anarchy (the political use of the word).
But really spend some hours, search and learn. It's interesting.
This. Can't upvote.
Juries are easily swayed by expensive lawyers.
Perhaps even more frequently by crooked prosecutors?
Ezekiel 23:20
You really have to be ignorant if you think that is some recent invention. ... Oh, it's DNS-and-BIND. Yeah, as I wrote: really ignorant.
We are neither medieval or a theocracy.
If you aren't, it's not for a lack of desire by certain influential portions of the population.
Ezekiel 23:20
And the US at least has pockets of sanity. Our constitution makes theocracy explicitly illegal (though I'm aware of growing movement to institute one, our current VP is a Dominionist for example...). There's several states that have abolished the death penalty (though we haven't had the strength of character to do it nationally).
Yeah, we've got our share of problems, but that doesn't make anything the Saudis do any better. If you want to find a fault in us it's that we continue to sell them weapons and help them bomb schools in Yemen...
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The latter is mob rule and tyranny of the majority.
Meanwhile here we are suffering tyranny of the minority, ala Trump.
Give Trump another term and we will be.
Mac
but is this gonna change how anyone votes? Donald Trump just said the quiet part out loud. He walked it back because it made him look weak, not because it was a morally reprehensible thing.
/.ers depend on (we're an aging demographic, so we got pre-existing issues alright). So far none of this has budged polls. There might be a bit of a shake up in the mid terms, but only because voters traditionally hand the other side the house just to balance things out. And even then those voters are voting for the more conservative candidates out of the other side, so it's all much the muchness.
This keeps happening too. Paul Ryan has repeatedly called to privatize Medicare for anyone under 55 (being careful not to risk votes of current seniors). Net Neutrality is dead. There's a serious challenge to the Affordable Care Acts protection of pre-existing conditions which I know many
So is anyone going to drastically change who their vote for, or start voting consistently when they didn't bother in the past? Is this or anything else above enough to change voting behavior?
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And shouting "whataboutism!" when someone points out you're a fucking hypocritical piece of shit is a recent rich white techbro propoganda to deflect from how shitty Big Ads aka "silicon valley" actually is. Google is making a censored search engine? Yeah, but what about Baidu!
Also, the US is a Democracy, not a theocracy.
Yet. The U.S. is not yet a theocracy. However, based on their actions, Republicans, and their Evangelical Judases, are working very had to change that.
Yes when they shoot at other people are good reasons.
Discredit by shaming and vitriol is also a common tactic that does not answer the question. Perhaps you could try a straw man next?
Stop reposting your spam. You deserved your -1. Get over it.
If you were mature, you would accept that the -1 moderation was justified. Instead, you get incredibly butthurt because you're obsessed with Slashdot and have nothing else to live for.
By the way, your hosts file software is garbage. It's incredibly inefficient and leads to lots of false positives while nit blocking lots of real threats.
You're wrong.
Infowars is fake news. Of ccourse, a compulsive liar like you would feel right at home on a fake news site.
News to me.
It *IS* indeed a valid argument in this context. It's a "valid argument," but it's still just wrong for another reason as mentioned above...
Don't let the recent popular spreading of the "whataboutism" claims confuse you with actual, moral arguments.
If one is claiming, "this thing is bad" and then one does that thing, then one obviously doesn't really believe it's bad, and the claim that it is, is instead an attempt to exert power over the other person using lies and false claims.
The "Whataboutism" refers to using a *DIFFERENT* argument, usually unrelated to the initial one, to divert attention. It does NOT refer to pointing out an incongruity with the actual initial claim.
Ignoring all the purple prose (what's the agenda there?), a thinking person really ought to come up short at the phrase "unlikely benefactor". Hard short.
Perhaps I have a superior education, but I would have filed this under: I'll take extremely obvious things for 500, Alex. Consider: one of the largest nest eggs in human history recently celebrated their golden gooses 65th birthday party. Certainly not dead yet, but unmistakably slowing down. Early-bird dinner discounts. That kind of thing.
Optimistically, the Saudi's have about twenty-year grace period to diversify 75% of their existing economy. This in an economy where perhaps 10% of the Saudi nationals know how to hold down a full time job at Standard Global Capitalism Workaholism Level 3. (Even the French are at level 4.)
If you haven't seen the big Saudi diversification coming, I'd be suing your educational institution. They can't have taught you anything useful, at all, ever.
Especially the fact I RUN YOU DRY of downmodpoints you abuse vs. facts you can't beat on HOSTS https://it.slashdot.org/commen... for efficacy.
For efficiency it's LIGHTER than security issue riddled DNS & faster + same for AntiVirus (bug riddled too & TONS of heavy moving parts slowing you too - hosts speed you up 2 ways by comparison).
* LMAO!
ALL "your kind" can do is demonstrate your TRUE CHARACTER (cowardice) & HIDE from me but yet you NEVER PROVE ME WRONG either.
Maturity? & "/. is all I have"??
Puh-LEEZ - Speak for yourself punk as YOU'RE HERE TOO stupid!
I easily run roughshod over "your kind" with FACT because I LIKE IT & it's not only FUN destroying you PUBLICLY with facts, it's also EASY too!
APK
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"So the US is a medieval theocracy that murders with volts?"
And German chemicals. Mmmh.
I'm not crying, you are: I am LMAO @ U & "your kind" here https://news.slashdot.org/comm...
* You idiots have tried to IMPERSONATE me saying hosts cure specte & meltdown (best "your kind" has is LIES & FAKE NEWS (who owns that I wonder, lol - your kind)).
I never said that. I know better. So does anyone else. You lose.
It really IS all "your kind" ever does as its all you KNOW how to do. Especially vs. me.
Shame it ALWAYS backfires on you. You do it to yourself.
APK
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Whataboutism is a propaganda technique first used by the Soviet Union, in its dealings with the Western world.
I really, really doubt that Whataboutism was first used by Soviet Union.
It is not just Trump and his merry band of tax cheats. The tyranny is supported hook, line, and sold soul by the Evangelicals. They are the U.S.'s Taliban. They are just as mindlessly religious in their intolerance and given half a chance, they'd be happy to lock up anyone who doesn't parrot their beliefs. The U.S. gets all funky over the Chinese treatment of the Uighurs, but where is the outrage from the Evangelicals over the U.S.'s tent camp for children of illegal aliens? Where is the outrage over separating families? Where is the Evangelical push to fund aid and development programs for the countries in C. America that are the source of these migrants?
Just where are the Evangelicals? Where is their Christian faith now that they cannot be Christians given how badly their souls have been blackened by supporting Trump?
Really? Go there and attempt to set up a Church. See how far that gets you.
See subject: Why am I lmao @ u? Getting you to CRY like you are = too easy & running you DRY of downmodpoints = even easier, lol! HOWEVER - you have made me LAUGH SO HARD tears came to my eyes, lol!
* My software's malware you say?
Yea, ok - not: You TRIED THAT TOO recently & long before it - what happened?
I SHOT YOU DOWN with EASE as usual via facts you cannot defeat on that very lie of yours https://yro.slashdot.org/comme...
ESPECIALLY vs. THAT LIE of YOURS too, lol!
APK
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The US gives the death penalty for murder and worse.
Or worded more specifically, there are only two crimes the US sentences the death penalty for:
Murder, which must be found in the first degree, and
Treason, which must be the use of violence in an attempt to overthrow the US government from power.
Any other crime than those two, even if it is felt to be "worse", can at most be given a life long prison sentence but not summary execution.
One may certainly point out the conditions of our prison system having a similar result, but it's important to realize those conditions, as bad as they are, are not codified anywhere in the law, where the use of the death penalty is.
Fact is, I bought it. Check tax (I paid it current as usual) records: FACTS like ones on the illegal Federal Reserve YOU CANNOT DEFEAT!
* Truth & FACT always defeat you FOR ME (along w/ your weak lies - thank you).
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You can TRY & fail to attack me illogical ad hominem style, but you can't beat fact & truth.
So do YOU own YOUR own home PAID IN FULL? Let's see THAT outta you, loser.
(You probably live under a bridge like the TROLL YOU ARE, lol).
APK
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Again: I'm not crying - you are outta 'downmodpoints' & the ability to PROVE my prog's malware https://yro.slashdot.org/comme... - thank you for defeating yourself FOR me.
* RoTfLmAo @ U publicly, lol!
(No "small wonder" that "your kind" HAS TO HIDE from me by your UNIDENTIFIABLE anonymous posts).
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Democratic republics do exist. In some countries, democracy and the people are valued so highly that they are even used in the official name of the country. Mild examples include the German Democratic Republic and People's Republic of China. But there's only one Democratic People's Republic of Korea.
Escher was the first MC and Giger invented the HR department.
Do I say hosts cure spectre OR meltdown on the download page for my program where I list facts on what it can do for you @ Start64.com? No, I do not.
(You morons try telling LIES impersonating me & fail as I always catch you in it & everyone SEES that - you just don't "get it" do you? Your kind's LIES are what makes you the despised weasels you are - truth ALWAYS comes out on top, fact & I do too)
APK
You avoid MY question - why's that? What home do YOU own paid in full as I do I improved (I paid it off in full on purchase, period & IMPROVED it)...
See subject - & you?
* Come on UNIDENTIFIABLE anonymous troll - let's see what YOU have!
(NOTHING but your lies & being a loser, lol!)
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You're so fucking woke! I bet you'll be even more aware and progressive next year when you're a sophomore.
This question: Do I say hosts cure spectre OR meltdown on the download page @ start64.com for my program where I list facts on what it does for you No, I do not.
* SEE SUBJECT & KEEP "RUNNING" Forrest...
(Thanks for making ME look GOOD & yourself like the UNIDENTIFIABLE anonymous loser coward you are).
APK
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You just need to provide theOnion links for counter arguments.
I'm worth gifting - you're not & you HIDE, lol & run from my asking what home is it you own paid off in full? Well troll??
* Kind of hard to own that BRIDGE you live under troll, lol - isn't it???
(You're nothing & keep PROVING it, off-topic trying to illogical ad hominem attack me too - priceless & HILARIOUS)
APK
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Whataboutism is a cop out to eject oneself from a conversation when they don't like the fact that they're being called out on their hypocritical bullshit.
Example:
"Bad orange man is bad and is only not my president because monies and rich people!"
"Have you considered the net wealth of the Clintons after their presidency, or the speeches Hillary gave to the flower of Wall Street bankers?"
"WAT ABOUT ISM! REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!"
You whining about ad hominem attacks? LOLOLOLOL! Such hypocrisy.
I've looked at your house on Google Street View. The piece of shit looks like it's poorly maintained and ought to be condemned.
See subject: Why won't you answer a question I asked you "Forrest" RUN? You have links where you IMPERSONATE me?
List a few & let's see THIS:
FUNNIEST PART IS I'm probably under MOST IF NOT ALL of them saying I do NOT say hosts cure meltdown & spectre YOU impersonated me SAYING I DO & that yes, you IMPERSONATED ME doing that lie since you can't beat me STRAIGHT UP with facts I use on you to PUBLICLY CRUSH YOU & "Your kind" (liars & losers, lol).
I catch most, IF NOT ALL, times you are REDUCED to your lies that way, everyone SEES it too, lol!
APK
P.S.=> Do you REALLY think you're "fooling anyone" but yourself? Please, lol - IF my program COULD cure Spectre &/or Meltdown that FACT would be on the download page @ Start64 where I DO list what hosts do for users in more speed/security/reliability... apk
How much did you say it's worth? 127k?? Clue: You don't condemn a nice place like mine worth that. You wouldn't know as you clearly live under a bridge like all trolls do (except, lmao - you probably RENT there too, lol, as the other trolls charge you for putting up with "your kind" - the UNIDENTIFIABLE anonymous loser troll hahahaha).
* I'd say you're WORTHLESS but I don't have to - you have PROVEN that, nothing to show for yourself.
RoTfLmAo @ U penniless the CLOWN!
APK
P.S.=> Again, what home do you own? Let's see it - you don't have one - you're worthless... apk
>A medieval theocracy that still beheads by sword
So the US is a medieval theocracy that murders with volts?
Does the manner of execution determine whether or not you are a medieval theocracy?
The subject of your message is "Who murders more of its own?". Yet you have completely neglected to address the issue instead choosing to focus entirely on loaded language used by the author.
Per capita US performs about 1.4% percent of the executions conducted by KSA.
127k by some estimates (less on others) - & on taxes? In NY State I GET RAPED hard (compared to other states) bigtime but I pay 'em. Same w/ utilities costs in NY too under UK owned NATIONAL GRID (GREED). They quadrupled our costs.
* Have no choice...
WHAT I LIKE THOUGH THE MOST HERE?
Penniless the CLOWN troll won't answer a simple question I asked him here https://news.slashdot.org/comm...
APK
P.S.=> "Gosh golly gee - I wonder WHY?" (Not - like all trolls he lives under a bridge - except the other trolls CHARGE HIM RENT as they can't stand him either due to his UNIDENTIFIABLE anonymous illogical ad hominem attacks he fails in vs. me, lol)... apk
Works great vs. malscript/botnets etc. https://it.slashdot.org/commen... & is lighter + native + is FASTER than Antivirus or DNS that SLOW YOU (hosts speed you up 2 ways by comparison & USE LESS by far vs. either one, less moving parts for exploit too via a SOLID PROVEN kernelmode cpu priority speed IP stack vs. usermode OR filtering driver overheads).
NO denying it - hosts work. Even vs. DNS issues in redirect poisoning OR tracking you for your fav sites @ top of hosts.
Why do you THINK I have over 100k users of it worldwide & even /. users PRAISING it? Raymorris perhaps especially.
APK
P.S.=> Don't LIKE what's in it? EDIT HOSTS (easy) OR just add to its FP list so entries you do NOT WANT in it are there protecting vs. falsies - simple (linux model only is editable. Windows version is hardcoded that way though).
Nope. Oil is just too darn good. Now, tech allows for inferior substitutes, like battery powered electric cars. Plastics are made from oil. Except for short distances, air travel requires fossil fuels.
Only time you shittalk is when I run you dry of downmodpoints (I love it, then I cut you up easily) ZIP https://yro.slashdot.org/comme... after you ADMIT you have a registered account here downmodding me JEALOUS "Lil' JOWIE" whom I cut to pieces point by "so-called FAILED 'point'" of yours too (lmao) https://yro.slashdot.org/comme...
* I gotta say it - it's TRADITION since you make it so easy to dispose of you & "your kind" (UNIDENTIFIABLE anonymous worms I have cut to bits under your doubtless MANY sockpuppet accounts before hence your hiding):
THIS?
This was just "too, Too, TOO EASY - just '2ez'"... & it always is vs. undereducated UNSKILLED lying trolling weezils (like you).
APK
P.S.=> Fact & truth boys - undeniable, concrete & VERIFIABLE proofs I use DESTROY you along w/ you DESTROYING yourselves & making ME look GREAT - yourselves by comparison? Like the deceitful JEALOUS do-nothing "ne'er-do-well" shit & mere TALKERS (but not doers I am) you are, lol! apk
Saudi Arabia uses Sharia Law, and the "jury" consists of educated clerics who are far less likely to be sway by appeals to emotion.
Wow you managed to find something worse than a jury. "appeal to emotion" is pretty much the definition of religion.
SJW n. One who posts facts.
But nice try Chinklover!
Your comments are usually rather insightful, but I was initially going to downmod you here because you skipped Obama. But upon further consideration... race.
I'm not sure if you intended the white/white comparison, but regardless, well done.
I'll post using your moronic logic and annoying formatting, so maybe you'll be able to keep up despite your demonstrable lack of intellect.
Other registered Slashdot users like and enjoy my logged-in posts, so they mod them up and improve my karma. Because they like my posts and I have excellent karma, I'm able to get mod points, which could be used on your posts.
What logged-in posts have you made that other Slashdot users like and mod up? Show where you have done better than I have, where you've made logged-in posts that get modded up, and where you have an account with excellent karma. Prove that you've done better than I have.
You can't, and you know it. All you have to show for yourself is a bunch of anonymous coward offtopic spam posts that annoy other Slashdot users, so they mod your posts down. You wish you were me, with an account that has a good posting history, excellent karma, and the ability to get mod points. You're just jealous, and your constant posts whining about "downmodpoints" prove it.
Show me where you've done better. You can't and you know it. You're just jealous and wish you were me. You know that you don't contribute anything of value to Slashdot, and you're just protecting your inadequacies onto others like me.
FKU
P.S.=> Run, Forrest, run! You'll use your usual tactics of replying with logical fallacies and dodging my questions because you know you're inferior... fku
Horray! Someone gets it!
Murder is a legal definition. Outside if law there is no murder. Just animals killing animals. Also it's kinder to kill someone then to twist who they are through forced condition until they are but a Shadow of themselves. Is more ethical to let someone die as themselves then to twist them into your own privately acceptable monster
Nobody really questions where investment money comes from but surely even a 5 year old can join the dots - which ethical groups have millions of dollars to chuck around on 1000/1 bets?
Saudi Arabia only oppress a couple of dozen millions. China uses Valley tech to oppress 1.5 billion.
Although you're marked troll at this point, I stand with you.
The evangelicals want to push their concept of morality on the US at every turn. They ignore so much to get ostensible anti-abortionists like Kavanaugh onto the SCOTUS, pathological narcissists for President, and just genuine haters at so many political points that I find them as gruesome as the Saudis in many areas. The anti-LGBT fundings (Thank you, LatterDayDudes), support for anti-healthcare, 1%er tax cuts, it's truly appalling. Are these the Pharisees or the Christians? Tough to tell.
The Saudis, like the 1%ers, pay people off. Launder their ill-gotten gain in tech. Ignore the inevitable climate change caused by manmade sources. Then they pat themselves on the back, believing themselves the hand of God, which they are not.
---- Teach Peace. It's Cheaper Than War.
Do you believe juries make the process fair? Juries are easily swayed by expensive lawyers.
Yes it is fair in a sense society gets what it deserves. If your population is raised to be a bunch of fools then everyone gets to live directly with the consequences of that reality as they very much deserve.
A poor person is far more likely to be found guilty and sentenced to death in America than a rich person committing a similar crime.
Poor people tend to actually be guilty of low grade capital crimes more than rich people.
Saudi Arabia uses Sharia Law, and the "jury" consists of educated clerics who are far less likely to be sway by appeals to emotion.
Assuming education level makes people less likely to behave illogically is a source of great personal amusement.
Can you even imagine America executing a Trump or Clinton?
Yes I can. I can even imagine Bush and crew facing trial and executed for war crimes.
Change your diet: You EAT YOUR WORDS again & eating your words != GOOD nutrition https://it.slashdot.org/commen... lol!
* Every point enumerated there beneath that post BLOWS YOU AWAY & I understand you can't handle reading it OR letting others do so - it's not MY fault you watch your own THEATER of the ABSURD, lol!
APK
P.S.=> Read 'em & WEEP - as usual concrete, verifiable & UNDENIABLE proof on more speed/security/reliability (even some anonymity vs. DNS tracking OR script tracking) are the yield & RESULT of hosts usage (doing more for FAR LESS natively) - it's not MY FAULT I'm a genius (not really but it pisses you off I say it) spotting that blowing away all naysayers like you - it's yours you are a DO-NOTHING "ne'er-do-well" who COULD DO THE SAME (but you're too lazy or unskilled - your fault, not mine)... apk
Does the manner of execution determine whether or not you are a medieval theocracy?
No. Saudi Arabia is a medieval theocracy. Saudi Arabia uses beheading in capital punishment.
Correlation is not causation.
See subject & where I SHOT YOU TO PIECES point by point with verifiable concrete UNDENIABLE facts https://yro.slashdot.org/comme... as you STALK me via UNIDENTIFIABLE anonymous posts (since you know I've cut you up under your FAKE NAME registered doubtless MANY sockpuppet accounts too, lol) so you can try HIDE your many defeats like that one above vs. me ADMITTING you downmod bomb me (especially when I BLOW YOU AWAY EASILY, lol) https://yro.slashdot.org/comme...
* RoTfLmAo!
You SEEM to think that "having an account" makes you 'SUPERIOR'? Clue: Under your DELUSIONAL wannabe 'superhero' (or whatever loon ideas you have, lol) names you look like CHILDISH DOLTS!
Especially as I DUST You under those accounts AND force you to BUTTHURT "stalk" me as you do now by UNIDENTFIABLE anonymous, lmao...
Lastly - look: Your IMPERSONATIONS of me OR MY STYLE? Proves you WISH you were me (but a "ne'er-do-well" underskilled wannabe like YOU? Never can be - only POOR "imitation" & not even THAT, lol).
APK
P.S.=> Truer words were NEVER SPOKEN on /. (especially as I back them via undeniable facts in links to CRUSH "your kind" every SINGLE time, lol - easily)... apk
Why don't you use your REAL name, Mr. REALITY? Does your UNIDENTIFIABLE anonymous STALKING me lend you credence others ought to heed? No.
Alternately: Do your FAKE NAME accounts (probably many, I know the game & even the film "the 5th estate" has JULIAN ASSANGE showing it IS done, even by webmasters etc.) do so??
HELL NO.
Your reality is that of a no good DO-NOTHING mere "ne'er-do-well" troll, nothing more & I pity you it.
APK
P.S.=> A dose of REALITY proving "your kind" does that when HORRIBLY defeated by MYSELF & fact I use? Here (thanks ZIP, lol) https://yro.slashdot.org/comme... - ESPECIALLY for PROVING you have to HIDE from me (yet 'downmod bomb' me which I OVERRIDE via UNLIMITED posting ability I have) https://yro.slashdot.org/comme... - RoTfLmAo @ U... apk
>mob opposes jury trials
of course
Can you even imagine America executing a Trump or Clinton?
Prior to 10 to 15 years ago, no. But at the rate things have been going, I can see it happening in the next 5 to 10 years. The wing nuts have been getting ever crazier and have gotten very efficient at stirring up more people than I would have ever thought possible. The media has also gotten very good at giving the masses just enough information to scare the shit out of them, but not enough to make an informed decision. Even the weather channel hypes anything they can.
See subject: 1st - I've laid more pussy than you've even SEEN your entire wasted do-nothing LIFE & decades ago (can't help I was born GOOD LOOKING & healthy as well as being a hell of an athelete @ one point in my life for a national power no less https://games.slashdot.org/com... & I was LUCKY to have grown up around some of the GREATEST players in that game as pals over time in 2 diff. highschools, later in college too (great guys like Todd Curry OR Tom Korrie from WG & SU)).
2nd: That's NO DELUSION above on women OR sports (or education I possess, & I have more in STRICT CS later ontop of MIS as well as a great career that did well enough I haven't had to WORK FOR OTHERS since 2007 & run a small business instead, successfully enough since).
3rd: As far as CS "exploits"? Would you like a PARTIAL LIST of only some of my FAVORITES over time since 1995?? Ask & ye SHALL receive (much to YOUR dismay).
(On #3? LOL - that is ONLY if you wish to continue EATING YOUR WORDS from behind UNIDENTIFIABLE anonymous that is (you're DYING of malnutrition due to it, lol))
APK
P.S.=> Since Lord KNOWS I've EXPLOITED YOUR STUPIDITY lol easily https://yro.slashdot.org/comme... (thanks for making ME look GOOD) & EXPOSING your DECEITS (downmod bombing me YET HIDING from me too which tells me whatever 'accounts' you have here I have CUT YOU UP under them ALL each time, lol) https://yro.slashdot.org/comme... ... apk
If they always return a guilty verdict that would be 100% compatible with not being "sway[sic] by appeals to emotion".
It doesn't exactly sound just and fair, though.
Confucius say, "Find worm in apple - bad. Find half a worm - worse."
The things you can be executed for is a good indication of the theocracy part.
The method determines whether it's medieval or not. Modern theocracies use electricity or chemicals to do the job.
Confucius say, "Find worm in apple - bad. Find half a worm - worse."
> the US is a Democracy, not a theocracy.
No.
The US *CLAIMS* to be a democracy, or sometimes a republic, and not a theocracy. But despite that notional claim or goal; in >200 years, we're STILL unsuccessful in the expunging influence of religion from the government. Until we finally and successfully make that advance for ourselves... until people like Mike Pence, for example, have ZERO chance of every attaining anything even resembling political power at any level; federal, state, or local... we're at least partially theocratic as well, in fact if not in name.
As the saying goes: "Men will never be free until the last king is strangled with the entrails of the last priest."... especially apropos in this context, because Saudi Arabia is plagued by both ills.
Imagine all the people...
Saudis dont ignore climate change. They support it enthusiastically.
Their current climate sucks. Any change would be an improvement.
All the models show that a warming planet will cause more rains in Saudi and green the desert.
It would be stupid for Saudis to be against climate change.
**Life is too short to be serious**
Ok, what's fake in 101 points on the NOT federal reserve https://www.infowars.com/trump... ?
You'd know - "your kind" are the EXPERTS on lying & fake news, lol and @ RUNNING from ME, constantly!
LMAO!
APK
P.S.=> Well? Which of those 101 points is LIES?? Enlighten me! Tell us all (why do I KNOW you'll RUN from it OR avoid answering straight points & this question? LMAO - we ALL know why)... apk
Not even good grammar!
I mean, your accusation that the GP is using an accusation to distract from the original accusation is just another fallacy, right?
Anonymous Coward, am your father’s brother’s nephew’s cousin’s former roommate!
But I'll make it simpler. A straw man is a straw man. Anything used to distract from the central point. The central point here is that Saudi Arabia is a brutal regime that cannot survive on it's own merits and as such uses violence and murder to retain power. Rather than address that the Great Grand Dad called the US out. That's a straw man. Setting something up to be attacked. And it doesn't change a damn thing about Saudi Arabia.
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Nope. Democracy doesn't mean anti-anything, except those groups that aim to uproot its core values and freedom, not even religion.
Your problem is the 2-party system, which frankly, according to game theory become a one party system converging on itself and strangling all possible wider spectrums.
Any sane people would demand more parties.
Saudi Arabia uses Sharia Law, and the "jury" consists of educated clerics who are far less likely to be sway by appeals to emotion. Several members of the royal family have been beheaded.
As long as you don't mind issues of religion/honor/etc having a much higher priority than whether the accused is in fact guilty of the charge, yeah it's great.
Why do so many people think that if something is bad, anything different must be inherently better? It's like we've collectively forgotten that something bad can always be made even worse.
Generally Im not against moslem v moslem crime or violence. In this case, however, I think that we should finally get revenge for Sept 11. We should seize their assets abroad just like we did to Iran, plunder Saudi Arabia’s natural resources and remove that royal family from power. Of course that will never happen as jvankas butt buddy is the crown prince and they party on his yacht. Fuck. Why do we have to deal with these countries?
Oh-so-responsible Google (who call themselves "the Good Censor") is about to create a panopticon search engine for China. Yes, tell us about how Saudi Arabia is the problem here. Google has tons of experience censoring search results in English and is taking that expertise abroad.
Valid links to Google's 'GOOD CENSOR'
https://www.youtube.com/watch?...
https://www.scribd.com/documen...
And most of the tech scum mentioned aren't doing anything new or original (Uber is still a taxi service at the end of the day, WeWork is a sublessor). They're just using VC scum's money to undercut established local businesses and consolidate them. One more reason why the US needs a good, long, hard tech recession.
Also, the US is a Democracy, not a theocracy.
Are you sure about that? First, we are a republic not a democracy - currently having a president who lost the majority vote. Separation of church and state has also taken a lot of hits recently...
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Nobody did it before then. The Soviets really pioneered corroding a society from the inside out with propaganda. They were innovators and trailblazers. Since their own society was a murderous hellhole, their chief weapon was to accuse others.
Shutting down free speech with violence isn't fighting fascism. It IS fascism!
The article selection is rather poor and simplistic. The relationship between Western Governments and the Saudi's goes back now some 100 years to the founding of Saudi Arabia and is much, much more complex than described involving two world wars and the later discovery of oil.
Saudi money, both from government and private sources, has been poured into Western Economies and businesses for decades. When I worked there in the early 90's, the owner of the business I worked for, a long-established import company, had his personal financial assets invested in the UK and the US and his children educated overseas. He understood that he only operated in business while he was on the right side of the ruling family and ensured that if it all went pear-shaped he would be financially secure in London for example. And he was just one of many, many businessmen who did the same thing.
(sarcasm)
I mean really! A cool place like USA would never send a commando team to assassinate one who foments opposition to its regime. Osama was tried, convicted and sentenced by a jury of his peers, as were all those creepy sorts in Guantanamo.
And no-one would flee a western country for fear of reprisal by its government. Snowden simply loved Russia, and Assange had always dreamed of living in Ecuador.
(/sarcasm)
Is there really any honor left anywhere in the world?
Only faggots use [sic] when addressing anyone, especially a non-native English speaker.
Would any other people besides White leftists be so pompous? This is why you people are hated around the world.
We've been sending billions and billions of dollars every year to people that hate everyone and fund terrorism - for decades. We should get as much of that money back as possible and stop using oil as a fuel ASAP. I hope to see the middle east go bankrupt and go back to being the poor camel herders they were before oil.
Really? Go there and attempt to set up a Church. See how far that gets you.
Pardon? I don't think you would get too far if you were setting up a Christian church. Setting up a mosque, on the other hand, would probably work (as long as it was the right sort of mosque).
Juries are easily swayed by expensive lawyers.
Perhaps even more frequently by crooked prosecutors?
I think it goes a bit further than crooked prosecutors. The whole system stinks, and as it rewards those currently in power, don't look for them to expend an ounce of effort to change it.
The underlying point of all this noise is that in America, notwithstanding what is SUPPOSED to be the case, the entire criminal "justice" system is run for and by the government with the end in mind of maintaining order, by which I mean the order in which those in power stay there. The notion that a jury-trial is really and truly a trial by a jury of your peers is a fig-leaf behind which America hides the fact that while fairness is the stated goal, (sometimes called justice, but, I mean, come on now...) it's not the outcome nearly as often as it should be. Case in point, the top to bottom way in which if you're rich enough, you can just about get away with murder, contrasted with if you're a member of a disenfranchised and relatively powerless and oppressed minority, you can be murdered for selling loose cigarettes, a form of tax-evasion, unless I'm very much mistaken, while the people running the freak-show in what pretends to be our federal central government is and has been for years just choc-full of tax-cheats, tax-dodgers, scam-artists, etc., and it goes back WAY before the clown-prince of America got installed as the phony puppet play-prez.
Oh, and by the way... I dearly love how people pretend that there's something barbaric about executing someone with a sword, (which when done properly is probably just about the closest thing you could have to a quick, certain, and humane execution and relatively inexpensive too,) while murdering a citizen in what pretends to be some species of democracy or republic allows the same thing to happen using cocktails of drugs not designed for this purpose, hangings, firing squads, electrocutions, etc. There's no "couldn't find a vein" with a beheading. There's no "whoops, everyone missed, except for a couple of guys, who managed to shoot the condemned in the nuts". There's no, "wow, I can't believe the rope BROKE," or "goodness, look at him twitch, I don't think the noose broke his neck and now he's strangulating". There's no "insufficient voltage" with a beheading, either. In fact, that was the whole point of the guillotine, to take the strength and skill required to behead OUT of the operation. With a properly trained and capable headsman, it's over instantly. Yet people whine and cry about how it's brutal and barbaric... no, the fact that the state is murdering one of its own citizens is what's barbaric. The beheading, (versus all else,) is just having distaste for the TACTIC, the METHOD used and frankly, it shouldn't be hidden behind closed doors, squirreled away behind all the bureaucracy and bullshit. If you're going to murder someone on behalf of all the people, they should get to watch, up close, and in person. Better still, they should HAVE to watch, and if they don't like that, let them demand politicians change the law so that we can stop murdering our own people, and pretending it's anything other than murder.
Also, on a related note, the death penalty only really applies to everyone around the condemned. The condemned doesn't suffer anymore after the execution, no matter how badly you botch it, or how long it takes. So if someone fucked up badly enough to deserve society's worst punishment, KILLING that person is really letting him or her (or them, etc.,) commit some heinous and infamous crime, and skate on the punishment, assuming he or she or they were even GUILTY of the crime in question, meanwhile, if you're wrong you can't undo it, and also the real perpetrator goes free to do it again. Further, while you murder someone for whatever alleged crime, s/he/y (shey?) committed (or didn't,) that person's/those people's family/ies suffer from that loss, and they themselv
Our reign has gone on long enough. Indeed. Summon the meteors.
Whataboutism is a propaganda technique first used by the Soviet Union, in its dealings with the Western world.[1] When Cold War criticisms were levelled at the Soviet Union, the response would be "What about..." followed by the naming of an event in the Western world.[2][3] It represents a case of tu quoque (appeal to hypocrisy),[4] a logical fallacy that attempts to discredit the opponent's position by asserting the opponent's failure to act consistently in accordance with that position, without directly refuting or disproving the opponent's initial argument.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism
Just because pointing out another's hypocrisy HAS been misused DOESN'T mean that it's a misuse every time it's done. Sometimes, it's a valid point to make. What you've done here is committed yet another rhetorical fallacy, actually... can't recall the specific name of it, and I'm not wasting the time looking it up, (though if I had to guess, I'd say it was "poisoning the well,") luckily, I don't have to because this is slashdot, and nothing any of us say on here really has real-world implications beyond the borders of the room slashdot keeps its servers in, so it really doesn't matter.
PS: god I wish I hadn't already posted while logged-in in this convo, as I have modpoints I could have used, and now I can't. :-( There's no way your comment rates a "informative". The argument you attempt to disprove using ad-wikipedia-hilarious, you haven't disproven at all. The point stands as valid: you can't claim the moral high-ground when your society murders its own citizens simply because they murder them more politely. (Which is itself debatable.)
PPS: In a real debate, the loser is the first one who cites Wikipedia as if it's a credible source.
APK, I asked you a simple question about what logged-in comments you've posted that Slashdot users like and moderate up. You ran and couldn't answer the question. What posts have you made that registered Slashdot users like and have modded up? What have you contributed to this site?
* We both know the truth. You contribute almost entirely offtopic spam, which isn't a useful contribution at all. You're aware of this, which is why you ran. YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH!
Don't complain about how others moderate your posts when you're free to log in, earn good karma, and participate in the moderation system. You won't do it because you know that virtually all of your posts are offtopic spam and your karma will always be poor enough to preclude you from getting mod points.
Everyone knows this is why you post anonymously. If you logged in, you would be restricted from continuing your abusive posting habits. You're also so arrogant as to believe that you ought to be able to disrupt others' conversations with impunity. Despite being a 54 year old person, you're more self-centered than even many children. Act your age.
FKU
P.S.=> FKU != ZIP. Learn how to read. You could use some emotional intelligence, too, but even basic literacy would be a significant improvement for you... fku
I wouldn't be surprised to hear that the clerics apply the laws rationally and fairly. The problem is what the laws are in the first place.
A double standard might be unfair or immoral, but it's not a logical fallacy.
Whataboutism seeks to prevent discussion of X, by interrupting with accusations of Y any time X is mentioned.
There should be plenty of time to discuss both X and Y. What's incompatible with logical argumentation is seeking to prevent discussion of X altogether.
If you're crucified after death there's no much of a big deal either.. Even the decapitation itself may be OK but is fraught with the swordsman messing it up (which I believe happened to royals in England, with a axe. Oh damn.)
I am worried about what would happen to me before the execution.
Regarding the US this is mostly about "grand-father clauses"? A handful people still on the death row from before e.g. 1986 or 1994 or some such date in a particular state still can choose an older method of execution.
BUT, one of the states is seriously considering to reinstate the firing squad. The injections don't get any better and in fact can get worse, as pharma companies boycott participation to the "medical procedure". In the 90s I used to think this worked but then there was word of the slow long painful deaths. Turns out, the more you read or watch about it, the more it looks like a death by committee scheme. You're not smothered to death or bored to death by a committee but the committee did design those contraptions and for setting up the doses? it's a crapshoot. You'd probably do better hiring a veterinarian or an opioid junkie or both.
I think the firing squad is relatively free of nonsense (but, either as a victim or executioner, I would like better if all the rifles are loaded).
Funnily, we first heard of George W. Bush in my country when he was the governor signing for executions in Texas. Then in 2001 I knew him as the guy who denies global warming, him or his administration. Yeah but anyway, there was that view of the woman smiling in 1998, strapped to the "medical" chair and she said she was going to see Jesus.
But ultimately this is all about climate change. They know that oil will stop being the world's fuel, which is why they're trying to diversify into tech (among other things) with their Vision Fund. Even if the Saudis themselves don't particularly care to end climate change, they know others do.
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I'd watch a couple video where women explain how they can make their hair curly, then I'd set up a synagogue. Well they would find me out after a couple seconds, lock up and beat me up and declare I'm a fool. I doubt they would execute a hare brained foreigner.
In other news, Kim Jong Un will meet the Pope.
Indeed, the south had brought a bishop or cardinal with them (make that an archbishop. I think his uniform was purple and black, I don't know what that means).
Will that be some really major change?
I wonder if we could call northern Korea an "Atheist theocracy"!
Give him another term.
At the end of Trump's third term, he will copulate with a sandworm larva then temporarily transfer his brain into a giant mech or the other way around.
Who will it be?
-- Iranian imposters invaded the embassy, and committed the deed.
-- Rogue security person(s) working for Qatar/Iran/Turkey
-- An expendable member of the royal family overstepped his authority
-- Hillary Clinton (DT would get behind this)
How many unarmed protestors Israel shot, 5,000? Israel is good friends with Saudi Arabia didn't you know. Their government is not that much better, Israel is run by its paranoid military, secret services and weapons industry that's why they're always trying to start a war or stir shit up and the prime minister is always that neocons clone sack of shit. Remember George W. Bush and all the foaming at the mouth crazies, well they're still there today e.g. Nikki Halley had its share of endless litanies at her UN seat, full of bare faced lies and hatred. Now, where does the money flow, from where to where? That's it : nutanyahu is a miserable puppy of the US neocons. He and his cronies just bark on the US's command. Look at what he did to Syria, he and his international partners in crime from NATO and the Gulf.
WW1/WW2 levels of destruction but trust us the Saudi, Turkey, UAE, NATO, etc. had nothing at all to do with that and trust us Israel never attacked Syrian cities with cruise missiles, you imagined that.
Funny how you're crying wolf about terrorism and antisemitism, but Israel supported terrorism in Syria and the religious ideology of these terrorists asks them to exterminate the Shia, Christians and random sects they find on their path. It's not a moral issue though, in that was part of the war strategy and this ideology was created by the Sauds on behalf of the Americans to help them with their cold war - the little king has said as much, right now! These "isms" are used as a tool by cold calculating people. The goal of the Saud-originated "isms" is to destabilize countries, governments up to instilling civil wars, ethnic cleansings and possibly the total destruction of the victim country
Some cynical people on the Internet say, "how come ISIS never attacks Israel?" but I don't believe them. Israel surrounded itself with enough buffer zones and barbed wire etc., participated in the game by bringing blankets etc. to "good terrorists" and being in the loop in general, what with the dozen countries all involved in that shit. But, they're trapped in there. Somehow, countries and politicians never can manage to admit that war is a lie, gross, and pointless in this case and put a end to it. Maybe a year or two from now. Subservience to the US doesn't help. I hope it will die with the neocons.
Not having to work for others meant I started my own business which has done welll since 2008 or so. I've worked since but only on contracts (typically @ year-end when corp's are "burning budgets").
* See subject: Not only are you projecting your cat-fetish but also your OWN homosexual sodomy you're obviously into (disgusting).
APK
P.S.=> Sorry to disappoint you though as usual per such "StRaNgE" accusations you level @ me when they're really YOUR PERSONAL ISSUES (not mine) - I'm not gay... apk
What of these 101 points on the ILLEGAL Federal Reserve is FAKE https://www.infowars.com/trump... ?
* I notice you REFUSE to answer - "Gosh, why's THAT?" (Oh, we KNOW why - you can't say any are minus YOU LOOKING A WORSE FOOL THAN YOU DO ALREADY!).
APK
P.S.=> Sick in the head bunch of freaks is all you are & liars... apk
That's speculation, with little evidence other than - ironically - her confession.
Maybe you should talk to your employer about their civic duty. My employer - like many - pays me my full salary during jury duty.
Foolish people, being born into corrupt societies.
Your native language is invisible on the Internet. If you can't handle English, post on a site in your native tongue.
I imagine they are about as fair as a typical United States judge. There are probably bad apples, but the big concern is without juries-of-peers, the law is intrinsically skewed towards the powerful class, because only the powerful judge the law.
We all know this is a diversionary tactic. Changing the subject is one of the oldest, most effective in the book. Highly obvious to spot, and dead easy for any 10 year old to deploy. Why all the gymnastics in an attempt to justify it as a legitimate tool of debate?
Too many decades late for that. :/
Ezekiel 23:20
WRONG on ALL false accusations of yours (it's why you HIDE behind UNIDENTIFIABLE anonymous posts). Contracts have been for Syracuse U businesses, HILTON, Bank of America & more over the past few years - easy money (mostly server migrations hardware-wise + reloading Server OS' + custom business wares & their DB engines etc.) - FAR EASIER JOBS than writing code, by far.
* I see you PROJECT your employment situation @ Walmart &/or Truckstops, lol... good to know you @ least WORK, lmao!
APK
P.S.=> Keep HIDING from me via your UNIDENTIFIABLE anonymous posts & telling lies about me/libeling me - I just show up, set things straight + bust you up in the end easily w/ truth & FACT vs. your bullshit - makes ME look GOOD & yourself? Like the "WEEZIL" liar & libeler you are... apk
Also, the US is a Democracy, not a theocracy.
Yet. The U.S. is not yet a theocracy. However, based on their actions, Republicans, and their Evangelical Judases, are working very had to change that.
Your religious beliefs (whether you have them or not) are protected in the First Amendment. The only group I see trying to remove those protections are on the progressive left.
See subject & 244++:1 vs. your bs I've torn apart AGES ago w/ UNDENIABLE fact https://it.slashdot.org/commen... & I've more than DOUBLED it since then!
Which is HARDER for me to get them since I post AC (starts @ 0 vs. 1-2 etc.) & considering you MORONS constantly downmod bomb me as proven by "ZIP" the loser with an account who STALKS ME by UNIDENTIFIABLE anonymous doing so admittedly https://yro.slashdot.org/comme... with other LOSERS (like you) I easily THRASHED via FACTS you cannot deny - just like THIS post does.
* So what's that YOU were SAYING?
APK
P.S.=> I'm having trouble understanding you since you're EATING YOUR WORDS again, as usual vs. me (lol) - & you shouldn't TALK (especially bullshit you spew) w/ your MOUTH FULL as you EAT YOUR WORDS - it's NOT POLITE, lol... apk
Don't talk w/ your mouth full, it's not polite as YOU EAT YOUR WORDS https://it.slashdot.org/commen... CHUMP!
* RoTfLmAo!
APK
P.S.=> Are YOU afraid to face me directly DESPITE YOU HAVING A REGISTERED 'LUSER' ACCOUNT ZIP? Yes https://yro.slashdot.org/comme... & there's the proof quoting you in it bogusly "downmodbombing" my posts (no biggie - I can post w/ NO LIMITS unlike most Ac's so I override your PUNY "wannabe weapon" inevitably RUNNING YOU DRY of them, lol)... apk
Saudis dont ignore climate change.
Right, it's their exports that ignore it.
Bad Arabian crude!
And doublespeak isn't a thing.
Trolls like YOU have no home of their own since you're worthless & avoided answering my question to you on it https://news.slashdot.org/comm...
PROVE you have a home of your own you PAID for!
(I did mine & did the work on the place for decades - my father SOLD me the place CHEAP to "make good" on a promise made me in elementary school that IF I did well on grades, my parents would fund my education (I did well in school NJHS/NHS & honors classes mostly AND SPORTS TOO (got me room & board on the latter @ college while playing for a SOON TO BE National Powerhouse in their division)).
That promise of theirs fell apart when my brother came into the world (great man, field-grade officer & a gentleman by act of Congress no less & Bronze Star winner (Lt. Colonel now)) so, I went into debt (all paid off, what would be 50k nowadays, by myself so I STAY OUTTA JAIL, lol (there are no 'debtors prisons'? There are for defaulted school loans)).
APK
P.S.=> In the end, I got a GREAT PRICE (for what the house was worth when I bought it, 40k) & I ended up fixing it up FAR more to the tune of 35k or so MORE put into it.... apk
YOU and your twisted natured forefathers are the problem. Ya'll created Saudi Arabia and the thirst for oil to try to keep the religion of Islam down and bring the jews back to Israel, but its backfiring. Have fun, walk to work.
Says Mr. UNIDENTIFIABLE anonymous STALKING me & has a registered account downmodbombing me https://yro.slashdot.org/comme...
Obviously it UPSETS you you can't "downmodbomb" HIDE my posts away & that I RUN YOU DRY of those "wannabe weapons" you abuse, lol - good.
You waste your time trying to "get the better of me" OR blackmailing me extortionist wannabe as you now have, lol - call the police, they'll LAUGH @ YOU - who have I 'threatened'?
ANONYMOUS NOBODY you - you aren't a REAL PERSON (or is "Anonymous Coward" on your UNIDENTIFIABLE posts on your BIRTH CERTIFICATE? No, it is not), thus WHO DID I THREATEN? Nobody & you TRULY are a NOBODY do-NOTHING "ne'er-do-well". Prove otherwise. YOU, can't, lol!
Fool - look: DO NOT TRY PLAY "Jailhouse Lawyer" with me OR THREATEN me punk - you'll lose.
APK
P.S.=> Lastly: SUPERIOR "OpenSORES" ALTERNATIVES? LOL - That's a PUNY SCRIPT & doesn't do all my program does (no favorites for speed & security vs. DNS issues) & doesn't check valid TLD/gTLD + it's NOT HIS OWN CODE either (it's using OTHERS' work) - mine is & NO BUGS FOUND IN IT TO DATE + it's GUI (the future superior) - I don't need SIGNING that gets STOLEN & ABUSED as I do a BETTER WAY that can't be mathematically https://yro.slashdot.org/comme... ... apk
The problem is when the religious politicians refute the First Amendment and enact laws for all based on their own beliefs. There's plenty of precedent for this already. I'm not interested in their Genie in the clouds but I'll have to live under, not His, but their proclamations of what is best for me. Because they know, you know? When I'm in their gulag they can go back to their mistresses and little boys and their money in peace. If all you can see is The Left and The Right you're already deluded. Ready for picking.
Focus on trade, other countries inner workings are none of your concern.
the last time I had Jury Duty I didn't even have to go down to sit in the waiting room, just call a voice mail line
I wish Trump would call them out on it.
"Sure, Iran hates the USA. But, they hate the Sauds even more!" "Damn shame if we don't provide weapons, and the ones China and Russia can provide are surely to be bugged in Iran's favor in a period of conflict"
Yeah, good luck!
Life is not for the lazy.
whataboutism can be a useful tool to expose contradictions, double standards, and hypocrisy.
Whataboutism is nothing more than a universal tool rationalize bad behavior.
If I've done something wrong, address that issue with me. If you've done something wrong, I'll address it with you. Those two actions are orthogonal. One doesn't affect the other. One doesn't justify the other. Hypocrisy doesn't make bad behavior good. Correct yourself, and SEPARATELY, pursue correcting the action of others.
The favorite Whataboutism today in the US is "what about the Clintons" or "what about Obama". You know what? Rs you are in power now. They control the entire government including of course the justice dept. Go after the Clintons and Obama. Stop using them as an excuse. Put them in jail.
Again: What home do YOU own troll? ANSWER = you don't. Like trolls do, you live under a bridge obviously, lol! As to its worth+land?
You're about right - I'm, afaik, the 2nd largest PRIVATE landowner around here in terms of lots of land also - & 127k +10k of land around it (makes me VERY ISOLATED which I like ontop of a HUGE 'mountain' which makes NOBODY want to come up here too since the woods are full of poison ivy, rosebush & berry thorns as a barrier (muddy too, & ground has busted glass all over it, you do NOT want to take a FALL in it in other words)).
APK
P.S.=> Funny you mention Miller but it's HighLife in bottles is what I'm about to enjoy... apk
It works & was upmodded (coding for DEFCON) - no virus is 1 byte in size so a 1 byte sizecheck in 100's of procs/functions works & would be INCREDIBLY HARD (since they're inlined checks vs. central function call (better speed/harder to break in a custom hackjob)) if not nigh impossible.
* You've come up w/ a BETTER idea YOURSELF? Hell no - you can't think for yourself & my code has NEVER had a bug found in it & it is, truly, VIRUS-PROOF because of my method (which can't be STOLEN & ABUSED like signature BULLSHIT can & HAS been).
* I didn't live w/ my parents! From 18 onward I was either away @ school OR working travelling the east coast (mostly) for work as a Software Engineer (mostly, sometimes network admin too).
I didn't 'rack up 50k then' (learn to read) - it was 18k but in today's dollars it'd PROBABLY BE 50k (good school, good rep, costs). I could've went ANYWHERE really due to good grades + good athlete but I chose a JESUIT institution that was rated a 'best buy'.
APK
P.S.=> YOU DON'T EVEN OWN YOUR OWN HOME let alone one PAID IN FULL + TAXES CURRENT, lol - so quit talking out your ass... apk
"classic Windows hosts trick to block the Coinhive or Crypto-Loot domains" - https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/a-new-player-joins-coinhive-on-the-browser-cryptojacking-scene/ - BLEEPING COMPUTER
ZD NET http://www.zdnet.com/article/how-to-use-a-hosts-file-to-improve-your-internet-experience/ "Hosts files really shine by letting you block ads, spyware sites, malware sites, & tracking sites"
SANS ("A related approach to the DNS issue is to create a hosts file on each system that sends requests for spyware to some place else" hosts by myself & RAMU right @ START of "malware explosion" mid 2005 on) https://isc.sans.edu/forums/di...
Aryeh Goretsky/ESET/NOD32: hosts = good security it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=7442373&cid=49747129/
Oliver Day (SYMANTEC/SECURITYFOCUS) http://www.securityfocus.com/columnists/491/
Spybot S&D uses hosts.
APK
P.S.=> Malwarebytes' hpHosts hosts & RECOMMENDS my program forum.hosts-file.net/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=4290
Your software is just fine - well written, functional... I'm going to continue using the Host File Engine by mmell February 17, 2017
his hosts program is actually pretty good by xenotransplant August 10 2015
I've tried his hosts file generating software. It works. - by bmo (77928) on Thursday October 15, 2015
I do use APK's host file on all my systems at home by OrangeTide December 01 2017
I've never tried to belittle (APK's work), I've flat out said it's good - by BronsCon (927697)
I like your host file system by Karmashock September 09 2015
I would like to note that I find your hosts file admirable - by vel-ex-tech (4337079) on Tuesday November 24, 2015
I personally use a HOSTS file blocker produced from a genius called APK by 110010001000 October 27 2017
* AS TO THE QUALITY OF MY PROGRAMMING & HOW WELL IT WORKS vs. your JEALOUS "Lil' Jowie" bullshit, lol!
APK
P.S.=> You're OUTNUMBERED & can't DO BETTER YOURSELF - & don't talk homes - you don't have one.. apk
I feel, in this conversation, that some of us, myself included, have perhaps focused on a point so closely that a bigger issue is being ignored, and I hope we can keep this in mind as we hear more bits of news about a certain aspect of this story:
One. Whatever you may think of people who report news professionally that seems to be or maybe even IS written from a perspective contradictory to yours, unless and until one deliberately publishes something as if it is fact, that he or she knows, or reasonably should know to be false, that person IS a journalist, and therefore part of a cadre of heroes who often risk their lives so that we, the people of the world can be informed on what has happened and IS happening in their world. As knowledge is power, without their reporting, we are powerless, helpless, and at the mercy of those who DO know.
Two. Inasmuch as journalists are often unsung heroes, and public servants in the broadest sense when their reporting is made available to the general public so that we CAN be informed, we should resolve therefore that crimes against journalists, and those who work in direct support of journalists and in the furtherance of journalism, are crimes against humanity.
... because they are.
Three. Inasmuch as journalists’ calling is to hold the powerful to account, and to speak truth to power, and keep us appraised of what is happening, no such person as is being reported on is or should be in a position ever to decide whether any journalist is telling the truth or not, or if he or she should be punished, penalized, sanctioned, persecuted or prosecuted for any part of that journalism. That responsibility is the exlusive rightful purview of the journalistic community itself, and the readers, listeners and watchers of the product of that journalism. We should not tolerate any abuse of any kind, or even the threat of said abuse to our journalists, because those are injurious to us as well.
Four. We who consume the news, who benefit from the fruits of their reporting, should help fund it. By our funding it, we ensure the reporters work for us, and not someone else. We should agree that any who pay for no news should not benefit FROM the news, unless they are earnestly unable to pay, so destitute as they are. Each of us who cares about reporting should do at least one thing to support journalism financially, according to what we are capable of doing, and in proportion to how valuable knowing the facts IS.
So if you don’t care, feel free to get your news from aggregator websites and megalithic corporate-run “news” organizations, and let those who pay for the advertisments thereon decide what you get to know. If you care, however, may I humbly suggest that if you are not already doing so, that you subscribe to your local paper, or donate to an independent news source not owned by people who have a vested interest in keeping you in the dark.
Just wanted to put that out there.
Our reign has gone on long enough. Indeed. Summon the meteors.
Mine does as well, but I don't think this should be put upon all employers, especially small businesses, that can barely scrape by.
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You're my candidate for insightful AC of the year.
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Why would you imagine that? As fair as you can be when judging religious dogma.
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See subject: his FAKEname on a post impersonating me https://linux.slashdot.org/com... & altering /.er's words.
c6gunner tried to mock me 1st https://linux.slashdot.org/com...
So I challenge c6gunner to show he did better work than mine & he CAN'T!
YOU DEMAND PROOF of others here?
"I've yet to see you provide any evidence of that." by c6gunner on Monday March 15, 2010 @10:02PM (#31490942) ?
So now I DEMAND IT OF YOU & YOU FAIL!
c6gunner = "Run, Forrest: RUN!!!
* c6gunner's LYING saying I did a MacOS X one - I haven't yet & c6gunner's LYING impersonating me hosts work vs. Intel CPU issues (spectre/meltdown).
APK
P.S.=> You say hosts = shit here https://slashdot.org/comments.... ?
FACTS: /.ers & security pros + RESULTS say DIFFERENT:
1st: /.ers https://slashdot.org/comments.... https://slashdot.org/comments.... https://slashdot.org/comments.... https://slashdot.org/comments.... https://slashdot.org/comments.... https://slashdot.org/comments....
2nd: SECURITY PROS https://slashdot.org/comments....
3rd: REAL RESULTS w/ hosts vs. threats https://slashdot.org/comments....
EAT YOUR WORDS!
Sorry, equating Evangelicals with Taliban is trolling. And I don't even like Evangelicals.
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While Evangelicals are a vocal minority of Republicans, they are still a minority. The rest of us on the right wish they would STFU.
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The fact that you think Trump wants a theocracy makes you delusional. He's only interested in the Evangelical's votes.
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Who tries to use public spaces to enforce religious dogma?
Who tries to stop symbols of other religions?
Who attempts to shut out those of other beliefs?
Who attempts to rigorously enforce literal translations of "holy scriptures?
Who desires to have strong influence over public education shunning secular education while attempting to control it?
Who enforces capital punishment?
Who attempts to control women as chattel?
Who wars with factions over religious principles?
Who vehemently protects religious iconic cities, shunning "disbelievers"?
Substitute either label. Orthodoxy stinks. Not one of them speaks for $diety. People have been trying to lord over each other since the beginning of time. These are just two more forms of evil.
---- Teach Peace. It's Cheaper Than War.
I'm not arguing with most of your points, and yet they pale in comparison, and you can't seem to see the difference.
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Hmmmm.
The End-Time Christians have much to do with the coddling of Israeli malice towards the Palestinians (who are also not saints).
The Taliban wants to go to the stone ages. The evangelicals run in their own insular communities, ignoring the rest of the world, ignoring the corruption, the greed, and more. They are both cults. They are both sheep, and both humanity gone wrong. ISIS is a truly sick cult. So are some of the Assemblies of God. Listen to their dogma. Tell me the differences. You'll find them small. Both are armed, treat women as chattel, and want to conquer.
One gets their oil anyway they can, the other their heroin. Both have parts of the world addicted. It's orthodoxy. Cults by another prism lens. Both believe themselves the hand of $deity. Have words from $deity to back them up. Both believe themselves patriots.
Both proselytize the downtrodden and poor into armies, some armed better than others. They have mutual aid societies and are actually charitable. And this belief that they're doing $deity's work means they believe they have carte blanche, ends justifying the means, so that their protected $sect makes into $heaven.
Evangelicals don't blow themselves up, and are less suicidal than the Taliban. The Taliban is more murderous, unless you consider the dead in Kuwait, Iraq, Afghanistan, Lebanon, Palestine, etc. dead in the ongoing oil war. I won't even touch the madness of orthodox Judaism, another $cult for another discussion. Pik Botha had nothing on Netanyahu. No, I'm not Arabic. Not even close.
And yes, these are the edges of each of the aforementioned $cults. Lots of great folks around that don't pay millions into anti-LGBT+ rights. Many that don't fund endless wars. Many that don't ascribe to convincing people to blow themselves up in front of police station, many who understand climate change, economic injustice, and many who just try to live day to day-- but these aren't the orthodoxy. Orthodoxies are very similar. Only a few variables change.
---- Teach Peace. It's Cheaper Than War.
Did you read what I said? Climate change is good for the Saudis. As well the Russians and the Canadians. Climate change is only a problem if you are happy with your current climate
**Life is too short to be serious**
There is every reason to believe that Bernie Sanders would. He has consistently said he would stop Arms sales to Saudi Arabia and has put forth bills to do just that.
You could argue that once he's in power he won't do that, but again, based on his voting record (not just what he said) I would expect that he would do just that. Now, if you gave him a right wing Congress that could override him then he wouldn't do it, but unlike Obama it wouldn't be for lack of trying. Moreover, if you want results you can't just put one guy in one position (the Presidency) and expect results. If you want reform you've got to vote the bums out. All of them.
FYI, it's still worth voting even if you can only get rid of some of the bums. Otherwise you end up with a gov't entirely composed of bums and they screw you over like nobody's business. Still, it could be so much better if we got rid of all of them. And it's not hard to spot them bums either. Just ask, do they take corporate pac money? If the answer is yes you're dealing with somebody who's been bought out. A bum.
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Religion is part of the law in a theocracy. Fair judgement of religious doctrine is fair judgement of the law.
Why would you imagine otherwise?
Well, I suppose that's a fair opinion. I was looking at it from the viewpoint of it being unfair to women, non-heterosexuals, non-Muslims, etc.
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That's speculation, with little evidence other than - ironically - her confession.
Who witnessed her confession? There was no trial, no record of her being questioned.
The killings weren't done by an official executioner nor in the town square.
Family members took the princess & her alleged lover to a car park, emptied a clip into her while the man watched and then needed 5 blows with a sword to cut off his head
Pain is merely failure leaving the body