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Facebook Employees Are So Paranoid They're Using Burner Phones To Talk To Each Other (nymag.com)
Facebook's reputation has only continued to get more sullied in recent weeks, and it's taking a toll on employees. According to a new report, things over at the old FB are, well, kind of grim. From the report: "People now have burner phones to talk shit about the company -- not even to reporters, just to other employees," one former employee said. Another described the current scene as a "bunker mentality," meaning that after nearly two years of continuous bad press some people are, to borrow a phrase, leaning in as hard as they can to cope. "It's otherwise rational, sane people who're in Mark's orbit spouting full-blown anti-media rhetoric, saying that the press is ganging up on Facebook," said the former employee. Further reading: Facebook Employees Are Calling Former Colleagues To Look For Jobs Outside the Company and Asking About the Best Way To Leave.
At least myspace didn't know how to monetize... need to bring that back.. they still don't know how to monetize
And while they do that, their platform is being used by Russian trolls to fire up civil war in France..
n/t
This situation must be reminiscent of living in communist countries.
Enjoy!
You're not paranoid if they're actually after you.
Glassdoor just updated their best companies to work for list and Facebook is in the top 10 based on employee feedback. Methinks someone is lying to Glassdoor about their experience at Facebook.
Can't wait to share this on facebook.
shit, they might be reading this...
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Nice job by our stable genius leader tanking the Dow today. #covfefe
Since the point of using a burner phone is not to let people know, how would anyone credibly be able to assess the widespread use of burner phones?
Some drink at the fountain of knowledge. Others just gargle.
You need to gather as much personal information about them as possible, and make it public on the internet.
What's good for the goose etc. If they are going to ass-rape the privacy of the entire world, then they have abandoned their own right to any shed of privacy either.
The internet didn't used to have these privacy raping companies on it. It's time to retake the net, or it'll be lost for good.
While Facebook may not be doing anything illegal, I consider them to be one of the worst scumbag companies on earth! They exist only to profit from collecting and selling people's private data to advertisers! They will go to obscene lengths to collect information on people whether they are Facebook users or not!! They do not care at all about people, nor the damage that recent data breaches may do to people. Suckerberg is right up there with Traitor Trump and his criminal cronies, just as EVIL and corrupt!!!!
Sorry, you don't ever leave Facebook...
There's no way out of here
When you come in
You're in for good...
“He’s not deformed, he’s just drunk!”
The whole world has gone nuts in that regard.
It used to be only evil totalitarian states and comic book villains. (At least what we were aware of...)
And now name me a single country or big corporation, that isn't on track, on the same level as, or worse than Stalin, regarding totalitarian surveillance and draconian freedom-destroying laws in the name of "security"/"safety". ... ... When the main indicator for how safe you actually are, is how free you can act and move without being repressed by draconian laws.
Let's make Facebook the next bit of a slippery slope, that serves us, for a change.
Facebook is a sad sad thing. Leave it.
Summary makes it sound like they only talk to each other on phones...
The media is being unfair to Facebook.
Also, Facebook is terrible and Facebook has taken a very long series of actions that are arrogant and insular. Facebook keeps making big mistakes and Facebook shows no signs of changing what matters.
It's not clear that Facebook even could change its most basic problems:
- it encourages emotional unhealthiness
- its business model is exploitative of Facebook users
- and therefore Facebook is a magnet for trolls who want to exploit users
- we don’t trust Facebook
- we don't want to hear our friends parrot shit they saw on the news (because all it tells us is that our friends haven't learned that the news media is trolling them)
If they were really paranoid, couldn't they just use Whatsapp? I hear that's secure.
Oh wait...
You are welcome on my lawn.
We should take a huge hint from them. They know what goes on behind the scenes. Everything you say is archived - not because it's bad today. No, it will be stored and used against you later. It's a weapon. A new kind of weapon, and the Facebook employees know exactly what it's capable of. They're not being paranoid. Paranoia is an irrational fear.
Shutting down free speech with violence isn't fighting fascism. It IS fascism!
If facebook had not done the entirely stupid and irresponsible things that it looks as if they have done, I doubt if the press would be reporting about the deeds of facebook. Those people mentioned as being in Mark's orbit need to look at themselves for the cause of all the press attention.
to set up Stingray interceptors within their corporate sites, if people want to get any more paranoid. You know, in the interests of national security...
Employees also referenced Dara Khosrowshahi, the current CEO of Uber who was brought in to take over for Travis Kalanick and clean up his mess. The suggestion here is that bringing in somebody new, somebody who isn’t Mark Zuckerberg or Sheryl Sandberg, could help fix Facebook. This, of course, seems highly unlikely and, as loyalty to leadership at Facebook runs deep.
Jack Bauer and I share the same preference...
Jeez people, if a job is that bad, leave. Staying is just as much a choice as leaving. I've left jobs I hated and taken pay cuts and never looked back. Peace of mind has a definite value. Surprise ending: if you really enjoy what your doing, you'll be good and make more in the end.
Delete your facebook.
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"Prediction: within 10 years, Windows will be a Linux distribution." Me, 7-6-2016
"loyalty to leadership at Facebook runs deep" vs "People now have burner phones to talk shit about the company"
Which is it???
Scum will say and do anything to hold on to power; the nebulous external non-foe has always been a popular foe.
Now how about some of that cake?
Haven't used that pile of rotten toxic horse shit not even good for compost jackass motherfuckin' shit-fucked bologna in five years and not for the majority of ten and criminal
Mark Suckaturd can suck a fucking dick and die in a fire and so can all the corporations and media/internet giants who have played such a crucial role in our oppression and brainwashing and all that fucking bullshit
Let it fucking burn
The press is ganging up on Facebook. I've never particularly like Facebook so much so I don't have an account. Facebook's creepy stalking nature has been known for a while now (precisely why I didn't have an account even five years ago). Its only recently that Facebook has been getting bad media attention because they upset the wrong people. Where was all the media attention on Facebook before they helped Trump, back when they were helping Obama? Certain people are upset about Trump winning and they believe Facebook is to blame so now its hit piece after hit piece. Facebook and Mark have always been shitty and scandalous. If the mainstream media had any credibility left they would have been targeting Facebook before people got suckered in to giving them all their data.
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I can message any friend I have with ease.
I can follow events at establishment that I enjoy if they are smart enough to actually use the Facebook event mechanism. Some put posts up saying they have an event but no actual event.
My friends see events I might attend and occasionally ask me if I'm going. So it helps me have actual face to face time with friends.
The event recommendations are actually decent. Their algorithm tens to see that you like ABC and other similar events (like ABC) appear in your feed.
People/companies that know how to use the invite system make events and send me invites. The invites are not obtrusive at all.
Facebook. Start monetizing the event system! And frankly, you need to send every company correspondence telling them THIS IS HOW TO USE EVENTS! Because quite frankly I enjoy events. And quite frankly I'd say only 20% of companies use them properly. I can't even find a god damned happy hour or trivia night. Well, every bar should have trivia night as a recurring weekly event and I should be able to find many of them. Instead I have to find this crap through looking at each companies web site or if I'm lucky they might have an image burried among their 100+ images that says what their weekly events are.
Really, Miss Mash? Your retarded abuse of contractions has gone too far. If you are going to link to or parrot an article like this, you deserve to be boiled in a giant kettle of AIDS infested Lipton tea.
It's been coming for the last few years, but The End is finally here for Facebook; everyone is now seeing what the true nature of the beast is, and it's ugly as sin. Time for you to all abandon ship just like the employees are. Formulate your own Facebook Exit Strategy and get off it now. Helping kill Facebook is probably the kindest thing you can do for everyone who is either still ignorant of how bad it is, is in denial about it, or just still sitting on the fence. Time for people to start being actually social, instead of social-media-fake-social.
Since they know the inner working of "social media", they surely know the extent of social surveillance.
And I see nothing wrong in using burner phone "just in case", it's an added security.
Trump told you so.
P.S. Delete your Facebook account, I did at the start of this year and have not missed it one bit.
The media is being unfair to Facebook
The media from what I've seen is just reporting on what facebook has done, what facebook has admitted to and pointing out facebook's lies.
How is that unfair?
Also, Facebook is terrible and Facebook has taken a very long series of actions that are arrogant and insular. Facebook keeps making big mistakes and Facebook shows no signs of changing what matters.
True on some levels (E.g. Facebook optimizes for used interaction, even at the expense of user experience. It is basically stuck optimizing for local minima that will cost it users. Most telling point: when you pick up your phone, Facebook waits a tiny bit of time and then gives you a notification for some random thing, rather than giving you the notification *when the thing happens* and not issuing notifications for stuff you probably don't care about.)
OTOH, they do make improvements from the user perspective too. They locked down users' friends info from developers a few years ago, for example. They didn't go far enough--NOBODY should be allowed to make you sign in through facebook to take a random internet quiz, that should just be against Facebook policy--but they made progress.
In a very real sense, that is true. The media have been in a continuous uproar since the 2016 Presidential election and the Brexit vote, because the "wrong side" won, and Facebook is a very convenient target for part of the blame. It's not as if Facebook's business model was any different before 2016; the company has always had slimy business practices. The media simply gave Facebook a free pass up to that point.
It must be enormously frustrating to Zuckerberg and Sandberg to fight this battle, because their political leanings are no doubt on the progressive side, and Facebook fundamentally did nothing different in 2016 than it did in 2012. They can't comprehend why they're suddenly the bad guys. It's just that in the modern world of social media (which they helped to create), when the mob goes hunting for witches, someone has to be thrown on the pyre.
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Why Zuckerbergâ(TM)s 14-Year Apology Tour Hasnâ(TM)t Fixed Facebook — April 2018
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The bunker is real, and it's spectacular.
Whenever possible, leave professionally. Give notice, but be prepared to be escorted out the door. Don't take what doesn't belong to you. Don't burn bridges. If giving your old company the real reason you are leaving will help them without hurting you or anyone else, do it, otherwise keep your peace.
There are times you can't do this. If you are leaving because of others' bad behavior, you may have ethical or legal obligations to report it to higher-ups, the police, or others, even if it means burning bridges. But if you are just leaving since your job is frustrating or no longer fun, just leave quietly.
Facebook can't die off quick enough. It's a plaque on society.
saying that the press is ganging up on Facebook
Stop being a dick, maybe? Sometimes the bully deserves to get their ass kicked.
It's entirely possibly that Facebook is a shitty place to work AND journalists are lying scumbags!
It doesn't have to be "either/or"...
I hope every inch of Facebook is thoroughly searched, investigated, and made public.
I was wise enough to avoid Facebook totally, including removing every vestige of it from my phone immediately when I have to get a new one. I've kept as much of my personal info to myself, unless it's a case where I really need to share something. I can't imagine being dumb enough to have shared myself, and in doing so sharing substantial info on my friends, with Fb.
Fuck 'em!
First, because lots of people are after them, second, the watched 'The Wire' and Zuck is obviously Stringer Bell.
Asking for a friend.
We already correlated your location with your burner phone. And then ran facial recognition to confirm it was you.
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How utterly convenient for your "argument", to leave out the essential conditional rest of the statement.
power of the tech they worked on.
Did they chat with their friends doing voice recognition for ads?
Domestic spying is now "Benign Information Gathering"
Hmm... sounds just like what other criminal organizations do, eh?
What is that? FaceFuck employees are unhappy?
GOOD. FUCK ‘EM. Fuck them right in the fucking Face....Book.
Facebook, a long time ago, made my list of companies I cannot WAIT to watch go under.
Our reign has gone on long enough. Indeed. Summon the meteors.
When you choose your burner, be very careful it doesn't have the Facebook app preinstalled.
When all you have is a hammer, every problem starts to look like a thumb.
It seems entirely plausible and rational to think the media IS in fact 'out to get' Facebook. After all, the media, for the most part, is all about ad money, and Facebook is siphoning off traditional media's ad money by the billions. It could be argued it's irrational to think the media ISN'T out to get FB.
I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy
Whomever is using burners to "bitch about FB", they need to STFU and deal, attempt to change, or leave.
If they've already got options in the money, then why the f are they there?
I get that it's likely impossible to change stuff
So for those in the money, they're staying why? And for those not in the money, they're waiting around, in a FML kinda way, till they get in the money?
These people who work in one of the planet's most intrusive and evil spying outfits are paranoid that somebody might see or hear THEIR communications?
If that right there does not convince you to get off of Facebook, you are a complete and utter moron.
"Social Networks" are the exact opposite of what their name implies - they encourage people to have "friends" they have never even met, to value the opinions of people who have never met them, and to prefer electronic communication with strangers over direct social contacts with friends and family.