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Student Used 'USB Killer' Device To Destroy $58,000 Worth of College Computers (theverge.com)

A former student of The College of Saint Rose in Albany, New York, has pled guilty to charges that he destroyed tens of thousands of dollars worth of campus computers using a USB device designed to instantly overwhelm and fry their circuitry. The plea was announced today by the Department of Justice, FBI, and Albany Police Department. The Verge reports: Vishwanath Akuthota, the former student, now faces up to 10 years in prison (with up to three years of supervision after release) and a fine totaling up to $250,000. He was arrested and taken into custody in North Carolina on February 22nd, just over a week after he went on a spree of inserting the "USB Killer" device into 66 of Saint Rose's computers around various locations on campus. Such devices can be easily and freely purchased online and can overload the surge protection in many PCs.

Akuthota, 27, apparently made video recordings of himself inserting the malicious USB device into the computers and said "I'm going to kill this guy" as the PCs were overloaded and permanently ruined. So it's fair to say the FBI and APD had all the evidence they needed. In total, Akuthota caused $58,471 worth of damage. As part of his guilty plea, he has agreed to pay back that amount to the college, a small private school in New York's capital city. The Verge reached out to The College of Saint Rose for a statement on today's news, but a spokesperson said the college had been asked by law enforcement to refrain from commenting.

235 comments

  1. Why Record Videos of illegal activity? by DatbeDank · · Score: 5, Interesting

    If you're going to do something stupid or better yet illegal, don't record yourself.
    Here's a fun Q&A with him on FB: https://www.facebook.com/saint...

    Sounds like he got fired and was looking for revenge! Curious what he did to deserve the firing.

    1. Re:Why Record Videos of illegal activity? by Highdude702 · · Score: 5, Funny

      My first thought was "HAHAHAHAHAHA Dumb fuck". Then I actually thought about it, and I laughed harder... So yea and he made it to college! Go our education system..

    2. Re: Why Record Videos of illegal activity? by Type44Q · · Score: 5, Funny

      If you're going to do something stupid or better yet illegal, don't record yourself.

      "If you're going to do something stupid, do it intelligently?"

    3. Re: Why Record Videos of illegal activity? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      We should be happy most criminals seem to record and brag about their crimes on social media now. Would you rather pay for new computers on your student fees, as a taxpayers or the dummy who fried the computer?

    4. Re: Why Record Videos of illegal activity? by rahvin112 · · Score: 2

      If you are going to do something both stupid and illegal don't record yourself doing it.

      The recordings are essentially a confession, it's a slam dunk case and he's going to go to jail as a result of his stupidity in doing the action and stupidity in recording it. Had he not recorded it proving this would have been harder and he might have got a plea. With a solid confession on board the DA has no reason to plea and they will throw the book at him.

    5. Re: Why Record Videos of illegal activity? by youngone · · Score: 1, Insightful

      While I am sure you're right, and he certainly deserves some sort of punishment, does up to 10 years in prison (with up to three years of supervision after release) and a fine totaling up to $250,000 sound like proportional punishment to you?
      I am genuinely curious, because to me even if he gets half of that it seems like total overkill to me.
      The silly boy is probably an entitled prick, and was fired for good reasons, but wouldn't a few months prison, and some probation seem like an appropriate response?

    6. Re: Why Record Videos of illegal activity? by sjames · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Honestly, prison seems excessive for most any property crime. Restitution with penalties and interest, an ankle monitor, and a few years of weekends picking up trash seems good. Throw in a jumpsuit that says I'm the jackass that burned out the computers fr fun. If he doesn't seem genuinely repentant, make him wear donkey ears while he picks up the trash.

    7. Re: Why Record Videos of illegal activity? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      lol white trash jealous of foreign college students

    8. Re: Why Record Videos of illegal activity? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Keep in mind that someone who would do this, was rightfully fired.

      If you're going to do something stupid like this, frying/damaging computers is always going to come back to the last person seen using it. Killing one computer won't draw attention unless it's like, the server room.

      But what's the point of frying a bunch of end-user machines, 60K in machines is probably 60 machines, or two classrooms worth. They're not engineering laptops which are easily worth 3K a piece.

    9. Re: Why Record Videos of illegal activity? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      You know those guys get their education for free. Paid for by their governments. Here in the US, you sell yourself into indentured servitude for life when you want to better yourself.

      Oh, he will have a job and you won't.

    10. Re: Why Record Videos of illegal activity? by Kjella · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Of course that would be unreasonable, but that's how the attorney general gets to prescribe your actual sentence through a plea deal. We'll drop the crazy charges and you'll serve one year or we go to court and try to nail you for ten, what'll it be? It's a huge risk to fight the charges even if you're innocent, if you're objectively guilty and take it to court for a lesser sentence your legal team had better be miracle workers. In most cases a jury will end up much closer to the legal maximum than the plea deal because they feel like slam dunking criminals. Remember this case?

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    11. Re: Why Record Videos of illegal activity? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Even if he didn't record it, I am guessing the college has CCTV somewhere, and it actually working. 1-2 machines, he would never have gotten caught, but enough data points will get the university police starting to check access cards and eyeball camera footage, especially if it makes the press.

      I don't understand why someone would want to head to a US prison. Unlike European or Indian prisons where they focus on rehabilitation and offer vocational training, a US prison is basically a storage bin, and being from that part of Asia, there are not many prison gangs he can join in order to ensure personal protection. Most likely he will get PC, which means he gets locked up for 23 hours a day... and that isn't good for the sanity.

    12. Re: Why Record Videos of illegal activity? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Yeah I'm not convinced he will have a job after this.

    13. Re: Why Record Videos of illegal activity? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Don't worry, 'good time' will cut that sentence in half, that is, if he doesn't get a bleeding heart judge and jury. The misguided yute.

    14. Re: Why Record Videos of illegal activity? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      He will be lucky to get a burger flipping job.

      Especially in India.

      Step 1: Murder god
      Step 2: Grind up god into paste
      Step 3: Fry god on grill
      Step 4: ?????
      Step 5: Profit!

    15. Re: Why Record Videos of illegal activity? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Even better yet, don't do stupid shit.

    16. Re: Why Record Videos of illegal activity? by Snotnose · · Score: 3, Informative

      It's a huge risk to fight the charges even if you're innocent,

      My understanding is hiring a lawyer to get a plea deal is around $10-30k. If it goes to trial it's a minimum of $100k. Just for the lawyer. Expert witnesses and other crap add to that.

      Think about that for a bit. You get charged with something you didn't do. Not only are you trading off 1 year vs 10, if you roll the dice and go for broke you're, well, broke even if you win.

      Something is broken with our system of "justice".

    17. Re:Why Record Videos of illegal activity? by Dunbal · · Score: 2

      Well at least frying a bunch of computers is better than shooting up a building full of people.

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    18. Re: Why Record Videos of illegal activity? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Vishwanath Akuthota"

      After he serves his time and has 10 years worth of ass reaming, this monkey should be deported straight back to the fetid shithole of its origins.

    19. Re: Why Record Videos of illegal activity? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's locally optimized.

    20. Re: Why Record Videos of illegal activity? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The dude is going to jail for ten years, plus he was already fired from his job. How's he going to pay for new computers?

      No, we get to pay, as taxpayers, for this guy's room and board for the next 10 years, in addition to paying for all those computers he destroyed.

      If it were up to me, I'd revoke his student visa and send him back where he came from. It would be a lot cheaper.

    21. Re: Why Record Videos of illegal activity? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I know with all the news, it makes it look like that, but while I was in India at a YMCA, there were beef days. Observant Hindus (who were the majority members) just ordered an omelet instead. Nobody complained about grinding god. Most meat-eating Hindu Indians (a few are strict vegetarians) who come to America try hamburgers.

      The beefs murders are just by a bunch of fanatics, especially in a couple of illiterate states that India has.

    22. Re: Why Record Videos of illegal activity? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If this was in the U.K., no way would he be going to jail for this offence, we have almost no justice in this country. You can stab your girlfriend to death, and get 16 years in prison, and the newspapers and courts call it 'Life' in prison' It's sickening.

    23. Re: Why Record Videos of illegal activity? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What we have is common sense. Why would you (the tax payer) want to pay to keep this guy locked up, if he has otherwise paid for his crime?

    24. Re:Why Record Videos of illegal activity? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not really laughing, but yeah, that asshat had it coming.

      I've read to many stories about white collar criminals stealing way larger sums and getting away with a $10,000 fine recently.
      Not saying that this punishment is too harsh, just that things are a bit disproportionate.

    25. Re: Why Record Videos of illegal activity? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It isn't a justice system. It is a way for big time criminals to get away with murder because they are rolling in cash that they stole. Justice is for the rich, not you and I. It has always been this way. For thousands of years. The justice system is a cleverly disguised way to control the general populace.

    26. Re: Why Record Videos of illegal activity? by nukenerd · · Score: 1

      [In the future] He will be lucky to get a burger flipping job.

      Not like his high powered job at the college then. From his Q&A in th eFacebook link :

      My responsibilities are
      1. Set up stage for jazz band for practice.
      2. etc

    27. Re: Why Record Videos of illegal activity? by thegarbz · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Yeah but how are we going to keep the PIC funded if we adopt your idea? Don't you understand there's campaign donations involved here?

    28. Re: Why Record Videos of illegal activity? by froggyjojodaddy · · Score: 1

      Honestly, prison seems excessive for most any property crime

      Does it though? I mean, you willingly destroyed property that has some value to it. Someone else now has to dedicate time and effort to restore what was broken and there are a bunch of people who couldn't do their work because of some idiots actions. Sure, you could get the perpetrators to "right the wrong" by spending their own time and money restoring the original state but that doesn't make up for lost productivity and whatever other consequences there were - you know, intangible things.

      I think prison is entirely appropriate here and for other property crimes. If someone decides to destroy/ruin/steal someone else's property, they should be put behind bars for a while so they understand there are consequences to stupid and negative actions.

    29. Re: Why Record Videos of illegal activity? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think the gist of it was that 16 years is hardly 'paying' for the crime of murder.

    30. Re: Why Record Videos of illegal activity? by Zontar_Thing_From_Ve · · Score: 2

      Something is broken with our system of "justice".

      You are right, but I can assure you that things are far far worse than you can possibly imagine. I am a career IT guy (I am American by the way) but I have plenty of friends who are lawyers and they've taught me a lot about how the US justice system really works. Imagine the following scenario which could happen. Just suppose some friend or neighbor or acquaintance gets angry with you and sues you over something that is complete bs, but they are trying to ruin you financially. You hire lawyer and fight them and win but it cleans out your bank account completely. And the whole case was bs and just an attempt to ruin you, which they sort of accomplished by wiping out your bank account. I've yet to meet a single lawyer or judge who doesn't think that the system worked perfectly when person gets wiped financially from lawyer fees when winning against an unjust lawsuit. And you should know that the entire law enforcement and legal system is designed to make sure that lawyers will get paid if nobody else does. If you win a judgement in court and your opponent has to pay you something and they just refuse, good luck getting a local law enforcement person to help you collect. Maybe you will. Maybe you won't. But if a lawyer is owed money, law enforcement will leave no stone unturned to make sure that the lawyer will get paid.

      In one of the most horrific cases I personally know of where the system abused someone, I have a friend whose wife filed for divorce a few years ago. Basically she got mad that he looked at porn online and she flipped out and filed for divorce. She is bi-polar, which may have played a role in this. She quit her job as a nurse deliberately and claimed she couldn't be employed again because of her mental problems. No lawyer advised her to do this. She just did it on her own. So she went to her town's most successful divorce lawyer who specialized in representing women and that lawyer took on the case knowing that the wife had no funds at all with which to pay the lawyer. None. My friend unfortunately did not take this very seriously and hired the cheapest lawyer he could find. My friend got his rear end handed to him in court. The wife's lawyer ran up huge bills and then at the end of the case sued the husband for the full amount. So my friend had to liquidate his 401K fund to pay his now ex-wife's lawyer's costs to divorce him. The ex-wife won half the 401K in the divorce, but it's completely gone now because all that 401K money went to her lawyer. Keep in mind that her lawyer took the case deliberately knowing that her client couldn't pay her at all and they would just go after the husband for the money. And it worked. I asked a lawyer friend for thoughts about it and he told me this kind of thing happens all the time. So yeah, our system of justice is completely broke and the lawyers and judges and cops like it just fine exactly like it is.

    31. Re: Why Record Videos of illegal activity? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh no the "educated" dumb fuck is going to get put away for causing catastrophic damage to property that was not his and damaging the experience that countless other students are paying a fuckton of money for.

      Cry me a fucking river.

    32. Re: Why Record Videos of illegal activity? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      If you keep him out of jail you have the possibility of him being gainfully employed and able to pay for restitution for the damages he caused.

      Throwing him in jail is just costing society even more money. I think at this point, he is pretty scared shitless anyways. Do you really think he's likely to offend again to the point that he needs to be locked up for the safety of society? I'm not sure if that makes sense.

    33. Re: Why Record Videos of illegal activity? by buddyglass · · Score: 1

      I was talking to an Indian coworker of mine about this yesterday. You pretty much have to pay for private primary and secondary school since the public schools are abysmal. College is also not free. It's much cheaper than U.S. universities (~$500-3000/year) but the avg. Indian income is around $600/year. So here's our comparison:

      Her:
      * Parents paid for expensive primary and secondary education
      * Worked way, way harder than I did while she was in school
      * Parents paid for college that was expensive relative to national income level
      * Has to deal with biased belief among American hiring managers that Indian (and/or female) employees just aren't as effective

      Me:
      * Free primary and secondary education at decent public schools (magnet)
      * Free (tuition at least) undergraduate education by way of merit scholarship; parents paid room/board, which was relatively painless for them
      * Free postgraduate education by way of fellowship and tuition reimbursement
      * Hiring managers never discount my ability because I'm foreign, or a woman (I'm a white dude)

    34. Re: Why Record Videos of illegal activity? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think it's cute that you think our education system is free.

    35. Re:Why Record Videos of illegal activity? by fazig · · Score: 1

      How about neither?
      It's not a dichotomous choice of either frying a bunch of computers or shooting up a building of people. And it's also not like getting revenge in some destructive way was the only option in this case.

    36. Re: Why Record Videos of illegal activity? by Pascoea · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I think prison is entirely appropriate here and for other property crimes. If someone decides to destroy/ruin/steal someone else's property, they should be put behind bars for a while so they understand there are consequences to stupid and negative actions.

      How does one pay restitution when they are locked up in prison? Punishment isn't the sole purpose of the justice system. There are ways to implement a punishment, pay back the damaged parties, and eventually reincorporate the offender as a valuable member of society. Put the guy to work and direct the earnings towards the damaged party. You could having him pick up trash off the side of the road, or ideally assign him a job where he can learn a valuable skill and proceed into a successful life once his restitution is paid. If it makes you feel better, throw him in jail for a month to let him know what awaits if he fucks up again, then put an ankle bracelet on him and make him stay in some sort of halfway home until his debt is paid. Just throwing him behind bars for 5-10 years isn't going to solve anything.

    37. Re: Why Record Videos of illegal activity? by laird · · Score: 1

      Except that if you're innocent, you can often get the other side to cover legal costs.

      Of course, in this case not only did he do something blatantly illegal, he filmed himself doing it, so 'innocent' isn't really an option.

    38. Re: Why Record Videos of illegal activity? by cascadingstylesheet · · Score: 1

      If you're going to do something stupid or better yet illegal, don't record yourself.

      "If you're going to do something stupid, do it intelligently?"

      Crime in a nutshell, lol

      The number of super genius criminals who outsmart everybody (like in the movies) is very, very small ...

    39. Re: Why Record Videos of illegal activity? by jnork · · Score: 1

      He meant that his parents were not forced to pay out of pocket for his primary education. He was not discussing the wider economic issues of public school funding.

      You're right, but only by changing the context of the discussion.

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    40. Re: Why Record Videos of illegal activity? by AF_Cheddar_Head · · Score: 1

      Good luck getting the state to pay for your legal costs if you are found not guilty.

      If you win a civil suit then maybe but not in a criminal case.

    41. Re: Why Record Videos of illegal activity? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You know it's possible to get a college education without the loans, right?

      Apply yourself, and get some grants and scholarships.

    42. Re: Why Record Videos of illegal activity? by MachineShedFred · · Score: 1

      The assistant DA will often accept a plea for less of a sentence in order to spare the taxpayer the expense and time of a trial that has a known outcome due to all the considerations you mention.

      This guy will see the inside of a jail for a few years, and still get a fine; but it won't be what is reported here. Especially since it was a non-violent crime - they'll kick him due to overcrowding long before he's in for 10 years even if he eats the whole meal.

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    43. Re: Why Record Videos of illegal activity? by MachineShedFred · · Score: 1

      He'll never do the 10. This is the opening shot from the DA, pushing this guy and his lawyer into the room to plead it down to 1-2 years plus a multi-year tail of probation and parole. State's attorneys do this all the time - announce the maximum to scare the shit out of you (especially if they have a solid case, which they definitely do here), and then offer a deal that saves the taxpayers the expense and hassle of a jury trial as well as the expense of locking this asshole up for a further 8 years.

      And really, in this case, everyone wins. He pays the restitution to the school, he gets put away into a box for a little bit, the Assistant DA notches another "win" as they contemplate a run for a judgeship or actual DA, society is rid of this asshole for a bit while not paying for a lengthy trial and to put him up for 10 years after the inevitable sentencing because he's an idiot and posted what amounts to a video confession to YouTube.

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    44. Re: Why Record Videos of illegal activity? by MachineShedFred · · Score: 1

      I would guess (I have no data) that the extreme vast majority of dropped charges and acquittals are not paired with the government handing over a "oh, our bad" with a check for the cost of your legal team to defend against the State's charges.

      In civil matters, yes there are measures for counter-suing to cover legal costs, as well as punitive damages that can be levied for frivolous actions. Not so much with criminal actions - sure there are statutes against malicious prosecution and so on, but good luck making that.

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    45. Re: Why Record Videos of illegal activity? by Rolgar · · Score: 1

      Is prison warranted in property crimes? How about if we're talking about white collar criminals who take millions? Bank robbers who threaten people with weapons?

      I definitely think there is a place for prison for property crimes. Either repay the full amount, or whatever you can, then somewhere between 1 day/$200 - 1 day/$1000 for whatever can't be repaid/repaired. Let's say we're generous, and give 1 day/$1000 owed. Perhaps they find he has $5000. From the $58,000 he owed, they take his $5000, then give him the option of paying the $53,000 over time (no bankruptcy get out of jail), or you go to jail for 53 days to pay your $53,000 debt. If you think that's too generous, give him 265 days.

      Consider Bernie Madoff. $20 billion profit from his scheme would result in a 20,000 day stay in the slammer, which would be 54 years, which seems very reasonable for the crime committed, although I wouldn't bicker if somebody wanted the 270 year penalty instead.

    46. Re: Why Record Videos of illegal activity? by sjames · · Score: 1

      To what end? They can't pay their restitution in prison, they can't maintain their other responsabilities, it costs society over 60K/year to keep them there, renders them LESS able to integrate productively into society later, teaches them that society is the enemy, and schools them in new more exciting ways to commit crime.

      If you beat a dog that pees on the rug, all you'll get is a dangerously bad tempered dog that pees on the rug.

    47. Re: Why Record Videos of illegal activity? by sjames · · Score: 1

      The assault in a bank robbery is not a property crime, it's assault.

      As for Madoff, a long term membership in Club Fed on our dime doesn't do anything to make the people he wronged whole. Paying back every last penny he stole with penalties and interest does.

      How are you going to enforce a 270 year prison sentence? Are you planning to keep his rotting corpse in a cell?

    48. Re: Why Record Videos of illegal activity? by Shotgun · · Score: 1

      Smart ones don't.

      I came out with a 4-year degree and a total of $15k in debt while supporting a wife and two children.

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    49. Re: Why Record Videos of illegal activity? by jpaine619 · · Score: 1

      Consider Bernie Madoff. $20 billion profit from his scheme would result in a 20,000 day stay in the slammer, which would be 54 years, which seems very reasonable for the crime committed, although I wouldn't bicker if somebody wanted the 270 year penalty instead.

      Using your math of 1 day per $1000, I have arrived at a far different number than you. I come up with 20 MILLION days in jail.. That's 54,794 1/2 years...

      You are valuing jail time at 1 day per million dollars stolen, which seems woefully inadequate...I suspect if I stole a million dollars from you, you'd be rather upset if I got 1 day in jail.....

    50. Re: Why Record Videos of illegal activity? by jpaine619 · · Score: 1

      It's cute that you think everyone can be rehabilitated.. Like that swatter guy, who was trying to swat people from jail... Some people are too stupid to be anywhere else other than jail...

    51. Re: Why Record Videos of illegal activity? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There is massive cheating in the Indian education system, including the entrance exams to get into college and class exams once in college. It is expected and culturally accepted because of the poor teaching standards and oversubscribed colleges. It explains why many Indian workers, trained in Indian colleges, are not very good. I have interviewed and worked with plenty that could not do simple programming yet they had advanced degrees. I worked with one that had a BS in math and MS in physics, and needed constant hand holding. She would come to me after every step in the project for instructions on how to proceed further. And this person went to IIT.

      I have always been told that IIT is the MIT of India. In reality, the MIT of India is MIT. While IIT exists for the people not smart enough to get into MIT.

    52. Re: Why Record Videos of illegal activity? by Pascoea · · Score: 1

      It's cute that you think everyone can be rehabilitated..

      Please show me in my post where I say that everyone can be rehabilitated. I was talking specifically about this instance. There are people that are just too dangerous to be in the general population.

      Like that swatter guy, who was trying to swat people from jail... Some people are too stupid to be anywhere else other than jail...

      Two thoughts on this. One: If he was able to commit the same crime FROM PRISON then obviously prison wasn't an effective solution for him either, now was it? Two: Kind of hard to find the time to threaten people on twitter when you're only two activities are working 80 hours a week cleaning horse barns in Wichita and being confined to a house with no internet and cell phone service. Maybe this wanna be gang-banger prick would reform if his ability to be an "Internet celebrity" was taken away and he was given something productive to do, maybe he wouldn't. But obviously throwing people into a box for the majority of their life isn't as effective as we think it is.

    53. Re: Why Record Videos of illegal activity? by rahvin112 · · Score: 1

      Your friend was very very stupid or he got VERY bad legal and financial advice.

      He should have given the wife her half of the 401k then declared bankruptcy to wipe out the legal fees. He would have lost all cash savings, but he would have kept his car and house (if he still owned one). This type of civil financial verdict can be wiped out with a bankruptcy claim and 401k's are protected from Legal judgements until the funds are withdrawn. He basically fucked himself over.

    54. Re: Why Record Videos of illegal activity? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, it's a "legal" system, not a "justice" system.

  2. There was easier way for him to destroy those PCs by JoeyRox · · Score: 0, Troll

    Akuthota is a citizen of India who is in the US on a visa

    He could have attempted to write a legitimate application, such as a "Hello, World", and unleashed the unintended bugs on their entire network of PCs.

  3. 10 years in prison is excessive... by b0s0z0ku · · Score: 4, Insightful

    And shows how fucked up the US "justice" system is. Average sentence for murder is something like seven years. He should be given a psych evaluation and made to pay restitution via wage garnishment in the future.

    1. Re: 10 years in prison is excessive... by Type44Q · · Score: 1

      Wholeheartedly agreed.

    2. Re:10 years in prison is excessive... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      No, the average sentence for murder is much longer. Average time served is seven years.

      In this case, even if sentenced to the max (unlikely), he'll probably spend no more than 3 years in prison before he is paroled.

    3. Re:10 years in prison is excessive... by Goetterdaemmerung · · Score: 4, Informative

      And shows how fucked up the US "justice" system is. Average sentence for murder is something like seven years. He should be given a psych evaluation and made to pay restitution via wage garnishment in the future.

      He is unlikely to get 10 years. That's the maximum sentence when they add up the maximum for each charge and it makes it more newsworthy. The maximum for murder is life without parole or death, and as you say the average may be closer to 7 years. In this case since he admitted fault and agreed to pay for the damages he will get some smaller sentence, possibly time already served or a few months. It is likely his visa will be revoked.

    4. Re:10 years in prison is excessive... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And shows how fucked up the US "justice" system is. Average sentence for murder is something like seven years. He should be given a psych evaluation and made to pay restitution via wage garnishment in the future.

      That's around 2 months per computer. I could see 1 month per computer, if you paid back for all the damages, but the 66 individual actions were probably the cause of the sentence. I once accidentally fried a guys laptop with an incorrect power supply to some device attached, but that was accidental, and his company just replaced it without comment, since it was a normal business expense.

    5. Re:10 years in prison is excessive... by bws111 · · Score: 4, Informative

      Oh horseshit. First of all, he has not been sentenced to anything yet. 10 years is the maximum he could get, whereas the maximum for murder is life imprisonment, or in some cases death. Secondly, the AVERAGE murder sentence is 40.6 years, where did you get that idiotic 7 years? The average property crime sentence is about 4 years. https://www.bjs.gov/content/pu...

    6. Re:10 years in prison is excessive... by gravewax · · Score: 0

      10 years is maximum sentence and I don't think it is all that excessive. a couple of months for each offence. The problem is the fucked up system that allows a murderer to get off so lightly.

    7. Re:10 years in prison is excessive... by Highdude702 · · Score: 4, Informative

      Incorrect. It is a federal case so he has to do I believe 85% before he is eligible for parole. That means at a maximum sentence of 10 years he would do 8.5 years minimum. When it comes down to state there is different rules all around the country. Nevada has a scaling system where its x-x months/years and the front number can not exceed 40% of the back number. So for instance he could get a 4-10 year sentence. In 4 years from the date of arrest he would get a chance to see the parole board. depending on the crime they can choose to dump him(not release). That normally depends somewhat on your case, your behavior in prison, and wot not. Some states have a flat time system and you do the time they give you. 48 months is 48 months. Telling you this from experience unfortunately.

    8. Re:10 years in prison is excessive... by 110010001000 · · Score: 0

      The average sentence for murder is 24 years. But don't let facts stop your rant.

    9. Re:10 years in prison is excessive... by rahvin112 · · Score: 5, Interesting

      His confession (recording of the act) makes it unlikely prosecutors will make any deal of any kind. All his bargaining power is gone with that confession. They tend to throw the book at people when they have a confession. If he pleads guilty the Judge might have some sympathy, but if he fights it he'll get the full kit.

    10. Re:10 years in prison is excessive... by Xenx · · Score: 1

      I'm not arguing that 10 years isn't excessive. However, in New York(where this happened) 2nd degree murder is 15-25 years. First degree is 20-life. Aggravated murder is life. So, murder is a longer sentence in this case. As for that 7 year average, I'm not going to do all the math. However, only 10 states have a minimum under 10 years. A couple of those, only with mitigating circumstances. Most of the rest have one that is a fair bit higher. Thus, the average should still be above 10 years for minimum sentencing. That doesn't even get into average sentencing.

    11. Re:10 years in prison is excessive... by Powercntrl · · Score: 2

      You could do more monetary damage by totaling someone’s parked Tesla with a lifted pickup truck, and you’re likely not going to face jail time for that.

      He should have to pay for the replacement costs of computers he damaged and any labor costs associated with replacing them/restoring the backups/reconfiguring them. That alone is enough of a deterrent to keep copycats from getting any ideas - there’s no need to “send a message.”

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    12. Re:10 years in prison is excessive... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hell no!

      deserves much longer sentences.

      Arseholes need to be removed from society!

    13. Re: 10 years in prison is excessive... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Thatâ(TM)s not how it works. 10 years is the max sentence of the computer fraud and abuse act.

    14. Re:10 years in prison is excessive... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Was the totalling of the parked car accidental or intentional? 66 computers. He sought out and destroyed 66 computers. I really upset, I could see one, but he choose to do this. Intent, 66 times. The guy is a nut. I'd rather he spend 10 years in prison in india.

    15. Re:10 years in prison is excessive... by SlaveToTheGrind · · Score: 1

      Secondly, the AVERAGE murder sentence is 40.6 years

      Yet somehow the MEDIAN murder sentence (on the first page of your link) is less than 14 years, far closer to OP's estimate than your supposed statistic.

      Sentences for particularly egregious murders tend to be tens or even hundreds of times longer than the murderer can be expected to live, which makes the concept of an "average" sentence fairly meaningless.

    16. Re:10 years in prison is excessive... by Beryllium+Sphere(tm) · · Score: 1

      Federal sentences come from guidelines with charts and point systems. Google "USSC". Whenever you hear "up to N years", it's going to be nowhere near that much unless a whole bunch of aggravating factors line up, like having a long record.

    17. Re:10 years in prison is excessive... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'll take a link to bjs.gov over SlaveToTheGrind's opinion on what the real BJS number is.

    18. Re:10 years in prison is excessive... by SlaveToTheGrind · · Score: 1

      I'll take a link to bjs.gov over SlaveToTheGrind's opinion

      Opinion? One more time:

      Yet somehow the MEDIAN murder sentence (on the first page of your link) is less than 14 years

      Reading comprehension is an increasingly lost art.

    19. Re:10 years in prison is excessive... by bws111 · · Score: 2

      Learn to read. The first page is not showing the sentence length, it is showing time spent in prison before first release. Sentence length is on page 4.

    20. Re: 10 years in prison is excessive... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      wtf ? you say "that's not how it works" then repeat EXACTLY what he said as to how it works.

    21. Re:10 years in prison is excessive... by gravewax · · Score: 1

      that is a false equivalency. This wasn't one incident, it was many repeated incidents and they were without a doubt planned, intentional and completely malicious in nature. This sort of shit needs far more of a message than you will have to pay the damages.

    22. Re:10 years in prison is excessive... by bws111 · · Score: 3, Informative

      Still can't read, huh? The OP did not say the amount of time spent in prison, he said the average SENTENCE for murder was 7 years, and he was comparing it to a max 10 year SENTENCE for this crime, as if this crime was getting more time than the average murderer. If you want to compare time actually served, then the MEDIAN 1 year for property crimes must be compared with the MEDIAN 14 years for murder. Whether you compare sentences (average 40.6 years for murder vs MAX 10 years for this), or average time served, either way the OP (and you) are completely wrong.

    23. Re:10 years in prison is excessive... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      His confession (recording of the act) makes it unlikely prosecutors will make any deal of any kind. All his bargaining power is gone with that confession. They tend to throw the book at people when they have a confession. If he pleads guilty the Judge might have some sympathy, but if he fights it he'll get the full kit.

      The average sentence for rape in the US is about 10 years, the average rapist is released after a little over 5 years. This guy fried some computers, not a particularly nice thing to do but throwing the book at him meaning 10 years in the slammer and 3 years with an ankle brace plus a 250.000 dollar fine seems a bit excessive. Make him pay for the damage he did, lock him up for three years and send him back to India. He fried $58,471 worth of computers, he didn't rape somebody. If he wrote that USB death stick software himself, the CIA might even want to consider making him a job offer.

    24. Re:10 years in prison is excessive... by Antique+Geekmeister · · Score: 1

      Jails are crowded. Investing a jail cell for 10 years for a non-violent crime, when more dangerous people deserve harsh punishment, may not appreal to a prosecutor.

    25. Re:10 years in prison is excessive... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Prosecuting takes time and money. That's time and money that could instead be put towards another case. He pleaded guilty. That means no more time and money wasted on the case for prosecutors - no need to prepare for trial, screen and pay jurors, schedule the case on the docket taking up a judge's time, etc. TFA mentions he agreed to pay restitution as part of his plea - that means he has a plea deal. He signed something agreeing to terms with the prosecutors. The federal judge may have a wide sentencing range to work with & TFA only mentions the absolute worst case scenario if he met the worst possible case of the guidelines.

      Let's look at what happened - guy does $60K damage to university equipment, pleads guilty & agrees to pay restitution for the damages. No one was murdered, raped, or assaulted. No drugs were involved. It wasn't a violent crime. If he has no priors, cooperated, and shows remorse - I'd bet on no more than 2 years prison time. If he's lucky, he could get as little as 6 months suspended sentence and a fine on top of the restitution, but I'd bet on 1-2 years given the amount of resources and attention & the fact that the prosecutors will likely push for some time as a deterrent for others.

    26. Re:10 years in prison is excessive... by Dunbal · · Score: 3, Interesting

      If he wrote that USB death stick software himself,

      It's hardware. Basically a transformer that steps up the voltage, stores the charge in a capacitor then zaps the USB circuit and thus the motherboard with 200V or so.

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    27. Re:10 years in prison is excessive... by Dunbal · · Score: 1

      Plus median doesn't mean much - only that 50% serve more than the median and 50% serve less.

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    28. Re:10 years in prison is excessive... by skovnymfe · · Score: 1

      This guy caused MONETARY DAMAGE, the most heinous of all crimes in America. What the fuck is a rape compared to LESS MONEY? Oh boo hoo someone got touched up a bit. Get over it. This is fucking MONEY we're talking about here.

    29. Re: 10 years in prison is excessive... by astrofurter · · Score: 0

      Oh c'mon, there's plenty of room for everyone in the gulag.

      Also - what makes you imagine that federal persecutors are particularly interested in locking up dangerous people?

    30. Re: 10 years in prison is excessive... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "the prosecutors will likely push for some time to satisfy their cruel sadistic urges"

      FTFY

    31. Re: 10 years in prison is excessive... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Arseholes need to be removed from society!"

      So you are planning to commit suicide?

    32. Re: 10 years in prison is excessive... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Monetary damage is getting bills wet or disks erased.

    33. Re: 10 years in prison is excessive... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not many people get the maximum sentence for anything

    34. Re: 10 years in prison is excessive... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      and the OP never suggested he would

    35. Re: 10 years in prison is excessive... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How are you going to collect all the pennies after he is deported?

      Dumbass

    36. Re:10 years in prison is excessive... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It is pure property damage and without any risk of causing harm to anyone.
      The person is not in any way a risk to society.

      Why isn't the punishment purely fiscal?
      A reasonable punishment would have been around $100,000 of which $58000 is to compensate for destroyed property.
      Save the jail time if he starts doing it again.

      Meanwhile white collar criminals gets away with paying 10% of what they stole.

    37. Re:10 years in prison is excessive... by stealth_finger · · Score: 1

      Well then deport the guy instead of paying a private company a fuckton of money to keep him.

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    38. Re:10 years in prison is excessive... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh horseshit. First of all, he has not been sentenced to anything yet. 10 years is the maximum he could get,

      The only scenario to consider is the obvious one: is there any scenario in which a 10 year maximum sentence makes sense? If the answer is no, then the maximum sentence is fucked up. If that's a result of constituent parts or how sentencing can apply (concurrent vs consecutive), then again the constituent parts and/or how they can apply is fucked up. If the maximum sentence is a byproduct of prosecutors overstating the actual charges into the realm of the realistically impossible to actually convict on, then that's prosecutorial misconduct and should be severely punished.

      The expectation shouldn't be that the average sentence is 50% of the maximum. It would be if there wasn't frequently heavy granularity in the law or the wording as related to crimes was especially vague. That's not how the legal code is worded though. The fact that judges and juries and even prosecutors in plea deals so routinely seek lower sentences is a very telling sign that the system as a whole is very broken. Put another way, if the point of a maximum sentence is like a score on a test and well defines the maximum degree possible within that test, wouldn't you see most people getting close to 50% as quite horrible?

      PS - Seriously, minimum and maximum sentences in the US and how they're applied are horrible fucked up, and it's clear that the plea bargain system is no step towards justice. It's an oxymoron to have a plea bargain in a justice system. You don't bargain for justice.

    39. Re: 10 years in prison is excessive... by BKX · · Score: 1

      The problem with using that ~14 year statistic is that it includes people whose sentence ended by death, and the number of people who died in prison during their terms is not insignificant. That means we can really infer a whole lot about murder sentences from that statistic. If say it's a bit less meaningless than the 40 year average sentence statistic but still it's not that useful. Even then, around 15 years for your average murder makes sense to me. Realize that most of the murders are going to be second-degree, not first. In other words, these are mostly spur-of-the-moment murders and not planned out ahead of time. That is, most of these murderers aren't likely to do it again, so there's no need to lock them up forever. Fifteen years seems about right.

    40. Re:10 years in prison is excessive... by Highdude702 · · Score: 1

      I'm gonna guess that counts the guy that got convicted with life without parole and 3 months later killed him self. That probably counts as serving 3 months on a m1 or something stupid like that. you know how statistics lie and shit. I know here in nevada If you murder someone(m1) you're lucky to get to see the light of day within the next 10 years. that's the cool down period for that crime. They lock you in a cell, and to shower, they have a shower box that rolls around and it gets rolled up to your door and locked on. the door opens you shower and then get back in the cell. 10 years of that. providing you don't act like an asshat, they let you go to a max yard after that.

    41. Re:10 years in prison is excessive... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Meanwhile white collar criminals gets away with paying 10% of what they stole.

      That's a different topic, and I agree the former is debatable, but by all means factor in the total damage of the crime to society that a white collar crime involves.

      If they do a small crime, knowingly and repeatedly to millions, lock them up and throw away the key, and paying back what was stolen should be the norm not the exception.

    42. Re:10 years in prison is excessive... by thereddaikon · · Score: 1

      People rarely get hit with the maximum penalty though. That max is there to prevent judges with justice priapisms from putting a guy behind bars forever because he didn't pay a parking ticket.

      He plead out and agreed to pay for the damages so he likely wont get the maximum sentence.

    43. Re:10 years in prison is excessive... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      1/4 million fine is also grotesquely excessive -- considering every pig fucker rich Bourgeoisie in the US who white-collar crimes millions to billiones --- their hardly hardly even looked at by law enforcement, and if they are --- its another incredible leap for it to become actionable. Then, if so, their only slapped when-or-if media pressure becomes overwhelming.

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    44. Re:10 years in prison is excessive... by Highdude702 · · Score: 1

      Yes i know that, i was just correcting the GP on the fact that if they give him max he will be doing 8.5 years.

    45. Re: 10 years in prison is excessive... by omnichad · · Score: 1

      Why would you even try to bring the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act into this? The computers are probably lab PCs that almost certainly had no data of value (and might have even been re-imaged on a daily/weekly basis). This is just property damage. If there's any abuse involved with the CFAA, though, it's usually in using it as a threat on just about any crime that touches a computer.

    46. Re:10 years in prison is excessive... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And shows how fucked up the US "justice" system is. Average sentence for murder is something like seven years. He should be given a psych evaluation and made to pay restitution via wage garnishment in the future.

      Keep in mind that this jackhole didn't just ruin $58,000 of equipment. He ruined the semester for the rest of the students.

    47. Re:10 years in prison is excessive... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hi. Prosecutors have no say in sentencing. They can decline to prosecute, or make up bogus charges, but that's about it. Plea deals are explicitly prosecutors declining to do their duty to prosecute, then making up lesser bogus charges which the suspect pleads guilty to as a deal. It's judicial malfeasance from an officer of the court.

    48. Re:10 years in prison is excessive... by ceoyoyo · · Score: 1

      Kids and their toys. When I was in high school some local delinquents discovered that they could scuff their feet on a carpet to build up a static charge, touch the keyboard lock and zap the motherboard. No fancy USB killer stick needed. Myself and a few volunteers spent a weekend opening the machines up, identifying which could be saved, and disconnecting the keyboard locks. And the computer room got a humidifier.

    49. Re: 10 years in prison is excessive... by Antique+Geekmeister · · Score: 1

      The history of successful prosecutions against guilty people, and the public embarrassment when they fail to convict a dangerous person, both indicate their interest. I'd agree that their efforts are too often misplaced or politically diverted.

  4. But why? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Akuthota is a citizen of India who is in the US on a visa, having earned a master’s degree in business from Saint Rose in 2017. According to Albany’s Times Union, he had also pursued a computer information systems degree. Akuthota appeared in one of the college’s videos on Facebook in 2016, saying he ultimately hoped to become an entrepreneur.

    So he snapped after realizing the U.S. economy is still a shithole? Stereotypical stern family giving him grief for not getting an MD? Seriously pissed off at Uni's support staff?

    There are so many reasons one would go out of their way to toast 66 campus PCs, yet this article fails to explain even an iota of the guilty party's reasoning or motive. The author does take time to greet his alma mater in the text of the article, however.

    1. Re:But why? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So many reasons but not one of them is legitimate. No matter what he was wrong and committed a crime.

    2. Re:But why? by Highdude702 · · Score: 2

      It's self explanatory, he did it because hes stupid.. They didn't need to mention it. We all got it.

  5. Re:There was easier way for him to destroy those P by Tablizer · · Score: 1, Flamebait

    such as installing Windows 10 on them.

  6. Re:There was easier way for him to destroy those P by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Or play the long game... land a job with them, produce shit code for years requiring hiring of others to fix said code, milking them of hundreds or thousands of dollars, producing nothing useful over a period of years.

  7. Dumbass by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You something felonious and videotape yourself doing it, and then release that video or allow it to come in possession of the police? 10 years is excessive, but he's a complete dumbshit. It's also surprising this hasn't happened more, and I'm sure it will now that the government has given it national publicity.

    1. Re: Dumbass by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Imagine someone videotaping ANYTHING in 2019 instead of just recording it with their phone. That alone tells you plenty about his smartitude.

  8. lol by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    My initial thought was 10 years was a bit much, but -

    Akuthota, 27, apparently made video recordings of himself

    I'd say it's not enough, but I don't think it's constitutional to single out retarded people to levy harsher punishments.

  9. Fuses by sexconker · · Score: 0

    In my day, ports had fuses so the worst you'd do is fry a single port, or possibly pair (gang?) of ports.
    In the 90s when USB started becoming popular, shitty products that caused shorts and fried USB ports were so common that various types of protections on the ports was a well-advertised feature of motherboards. Enough to get a broken Chinglish call out on the features panel on the back of the box or on the inside flap.

    1. Re:Fuses by Ichijo · · Score: 0

      In this case, I wonder what components did he fry? Anything worth over $30 per computer? Anything that can't be fixed with a soldering iron and a spool of wire to bypass damaged traces?

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    2. Re:Fuses by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A fuse does not protect you from a large enough surge. Fuses are usually rated to handled expected potential surges from unintentional loads. Situations like this it is simple to make the USB device powerful enough to easily overcome any fuses in there unless they are being designed for commercial high end loads.

    3. Re:Fuses by willy_me · · Score: 4, Informative

      A fuse would not protect from this sort of over voltage damage. Fuses are slow and by the time sufficient current is flowing to blow the fuse - the circuitry is already shot. Electronic fuses (MOSFETS with controllers) are much faster and do not need to be replaced. Most devices use current limited load switches to limit surge current and prevent damage. But even these devices, while better then fuses, would not help. ESD protection diodes would help but they are not designed for large amounts of energy and will quickly burn up. With the amount of energy this guy was adding, the diodes will literally pop off the PCB. USB is quite well protected (now, not originally) but all consumer electronics will break when you have hundreds of volts applied. Well, ethernet would at least prevent the damage from cascading into the device - but few interfaces are protected like ethernet.

    4. Re:Fuses by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Most USBs port are still fused, usually by something like a poly fuse that self resets after some time that the overload has been removed.

      HOWEVER a fuse would not protect against these USB killers which are overvolting devices. They are literally a 5v boot converter that boosts the voltage up into the hundreds of volts range and stores that voltage in a bank of capacitors on the device. Once the caps reach a certain level of charge they dump said voltage back into the USB data pins frying the logic that is not designed to handle that kind of voltage. Back in the old days of usb expansion cards this probably would have just been an inconvenience that meant buying a new $40 expansion card. Today the usb controllers are built INTO the chipsets if it is not a SOC device itself. A USB killer on a modern system is pretty much the death of the whole system.

    5. Re:Fuses by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      In my day we understood what a fuse could and couldn't do. I guess if you think the type of fuses you would put on a board can prevent these high voltage dumps we are from very different days.

    6. Re:Fuses by rahvin112 · · Score: 5, Informative

      these USB killers do way more than a hundred volts. IIRC it was in the thousands and it usually hits them multiple times before you can yank the usb, cycling about once a second. Though there is no amperage behind it the volts come in so quickly that I doubt even ESD protection could block it. When this was demoed it killed even protected computers because it slams it 3-4 times before the person can react and yank it out of the slot.

    7. Re:Fuses by Ichijo · · Score: 0

      With the amount of energy this guy was adding, the diodes will literally pop off the PCB.

      Diodes are cheap. How did they arrive at $58,471 worth of damage for 66 computers?

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    8. Re:Fuses by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 1

      Given that USB is typically integrated with the chipset, except on boards that have use for especially large numbers of ports, probably $30 nominal probably isn't far off(that's roughly what Intel says the tray price for a middling platform controller hub is, presumably lower in real volume); but with the significant downside of being a zillion-ball BGA that's nontrivial to rework without appropriate tools and expertise(and those aren't just a soldering iron) and which leaves the computer completely nonfunctional unless replaced since it also handles most of the critical system functions that haven't been moved onto the CPU itself.

      A torched trace or fuse, or a little discrete USB chip, is less of a catastrophy(though most IT operations try to avoid that sort of labor intensive and unpredictable nonstandardization if they can, it has a nasty habit of proving a false economy); but having the PCH zapped makes the motherboard a write-off unless you have suitable replacement parts and BGA rework gear; it doesn't just force you to not use a couple of USB ports.

    9. Re:Fuses by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Diodes are cheap. Paying to ship the computers, have someone disassemble them, cleanup the board, resolder, reassemble, test them, ensure nothing else was damaged, and ship them back to the school is not cheap. Plus I'm sure there was plenty of manpower expended diagnosing the issue before they knew what really happened. Then after they figured it all out, plenty of legal and administrative getting involved.

    10. Re:Fuses by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      replacing and testing all the diodes on the boards that were damaged and testing for other damage would cost more than the new computers. diodes may be cheap, the time and effort involved in fixing is fucking expensive.

      captcha : Naivete, how appropriate

    11. Re:Fuses by Antique+Geekmeister · · Score: 2

      > Diodes are cheap.

      As is the empty space in a car lock. Filling the ignitio with epoxy makes the car useless. Blowing the USB ports on a school computer makes the keyboard, mouse, printer, or other devices useless.

    12. Re:Fuses by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0


      these USB killers do way more than a hundred volts. IIRC it was in the thousands and it usually hits them multiple times before you can yank the usb

      Your memory isn't accurate. The output voltage is 215V, not thousands.
      https://usbkill.com/products/usb-kill-pro-kit

    13. Re:Fuses by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Paying to ship the computers, have someone disassemble them...

      Or if you want to save on shipping costs, do the above in reverse order.

    14. Re:Fuses by Ichijo · · Score: 0

      diodes may be cheap, the time and effort involved in fixing is fucking expensive.

      Or just replace the $100 motherboard. Done.

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    15. Re:Fuses by gravewax · · Score: 1

      time to pull the machine apart, test hard drives and any other components connected etc etc. So $100-$200 in parts. $500 in labour and we are now at approximately what they are suggesting. Honestly the value they have calculated looks quite reasonable.

    16. Re:Fuses by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      With the amount of energy this guy was adding, the diodes will literally pop off the PCB.

      Diodes are cheap. How did they arrive at $58,471 worth of damage for 66 computers?

      Oh wow, we finally found the densest fucking cunt on Slashdot.

    17. Re:Fuses by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In my day people did research before they talked out their ass... oh hold on... never mind.

      The USB killer is designed to pulse very high voltage on the gnd pin... Fuses are not on the gnd line

    18. Re:Fuses by froggyjojodaddy · · Score: 1

      The IT persons frustration should be factored in. It's not just their time that was wasted, but the fact they were likely pulled off other tasks

      I'm can't quite understand the folks who are defending the perp. I mean, this wasn't a political statement, it wasn't done for any higher purpose, it was done because the guy had zero respect for the people who own and maintain the equipment.

    19. Re: Fuses by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      USB should have been an optical standard

    20. Re:Fuses by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No use putting fuses to protect from this kind of scenario when he could have used a hammer or lit it on fire.

    21. Re:Fuses by Jfetjunky · · Score: 2

      Straight from the website: "When the device is charged, -200VDC is discharged over the data lines of the host device. This charge/discharge cycle is repeated many times per second, until the USB Killer is removed." So not thousands. And it does have A LOT of amperage behind it. That's why it works. It can surge a large amount of amperage for a very brief time, which can cook any hotspot in a silicon device once it's broken down (which it will do because nobody is putting 200V process silicon parts in high speed USB devices).

      USB protection is designed to prevent against reasonable faults (a device drawing too much power, minor overvoltages, ESD strikes). This is not a reasonable fault. Additionally, it surges the data lines, which are more sensitive. They have to be more sensitive because they are high speed lines that have signal integrity constraints. You can't just start adding protection to them willy nilly without affecting that.

      Their cover story is "The USB Killer is a CE Approved and FCC Approved testing device designed to test the surge protection circuitry of electronics to their limits - and beyond." which we all know is B.S. And It's probably not likely people will start designing their USB hardware to survive this unless people don't quit acting like dicks.

    22. Re:Fuses by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nonsense. A crowbar circuit and a poly fuse with maybe a MOV to round off the start of the pulse would be plenty of protection against these chinsey killers. The problem is this would be expensive to put on every port, and someone could always make a killer with some real grunt, that plugs right into a wall socket and, if nothing else, totally destroys the port physically.

    23. Re:Fuses by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Are you joking? Why does someone who's responsible for maintaining equipment but can't diagnose and fix hardware problems deserve respect?

    24. Re: Fuses by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Because you are making assumptions about things you don't understand.

      The USB key didn't just short the power and draw to much current - it injected high voltage.

    25. Re:Fuses by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Your day, my day, present day, fuses protect from overcurrent, not overvoltage.

      Captcha: electro

  10. Because for a lot of folks, that's the whole point by Solandri · · Score: 4, Interesting

    For a lot of the people doing stuff like this, if they can't brag about the crime, there's no point doing it. It's not really anarchy or revenge that they seek. They're attention whores. They thrive on the publicity and praise/criticism they get. For them, pulling a stunt like this without recording it (and distributing the recording) is like the proverbial tree that falls in the woods and nobody is around to hear. In their minds, it's indistinguishable from the tree never falling / them never having committed the crime.

  11. $58,000? by hcs_$reboot · · Score: 4, Funny

    Wow! He destroyed one Mac!

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    1. Re:$58,000? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      That kind of Mac would make my penis queef.

    2. Re:$58,000? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Tim? Tim Cook - is that you?

  12. NO NO! you dont know Akhuthota like i do.went to s by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    his degree fast enough before VISA expiration so he wanted to pick a easy monetizable immature crime that would put him in a nice monastic temple environment for a long time. Hell when i was in jail i ascended the ranks of janitorial and sewing machine repairing tasks for example. in 10 years he would have Statute of limitations to remove the college damages bill. Online university acccreditation is clearly the way to go.

  13. Re:There was easier way for him to destroy those P by Joe_Dragon · · Score: 1

    that does not really damage the hardware to the point of junking it.

  14. How much damage could of been done with etherkille by Joe_Dragon · · Score: 1

    How much damage could of been done with etherkiller?

    http://www.fiftythree.org/ethe...

  15. Re: There was easier way for him to destroy those by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Are you not counting every time it reboots or installs update while im still using it? Might as well be useless.

  16. Re: There was easier way for him to destroy those by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hahaha appl fanboi is fanning out or (naturally) just dumb. So many controls to make sure it doesn't bother you (enabled by default) but 0 used

  17. Re: There was easier way for him to destroy those by Lanthanide · · Score: 0

    If you have the Home version of Windows 10, then you cannot permanently postpone updates. Eventually it WILL update and interrupt whatever you're doing.

  18. First time for everything by sjames · · Score: 3, Funny

    For once, an MBA has to actually pay for the damage himself.

  19. How the **** do you pronounce that name? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Thung-thied

  20. Lost his Visa but ... by PinkyGigglebrain · · Score: 0

    Now he will get to stay in the USA getting free room, board and medical care.

  21. $58K!?!?! by Jason+Straight · · Score: 3, Funny

    So, that means 4 Macbooks?

    1. Re:$58K!?!?! by hcs_$reboot · · Score: 1

      used ones you mean.

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    2. Re:$58K!?!?! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So, that means 4 Macbooks?

      The most expensive MacBook costs $1599 according to the Apple store. Divide $58471 by $1599 and that's 36 MacBooks and a little change. If you are going to drag Apple into this with lame jokes, at least learn to work an Internet search engine and do math.

    3. Re: $58K!?!?! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If he said 36 MacBooks it wouldn't be a joke, it would be a fact.

    4. Re:$58K!?!?! by hcs_$reboot · · Score: 1

      w o o o o o o s h!

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    5. Re:$58K!?!?! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So, that means 4 Macbooks?

      Do you have trouble with math?

      A Macbook is $1,299.00

      4 Macbooks comes to $5,196.00.

      $58 is more than 10 times that.

      Stay in school.

    6. Re:$58K!?!?! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wooooosh

  22. Didn't get 10 years Unless you want a million laws by raymorris · · Score: 5, Insightful

    He didn't get 10 years.

    The article, like most, quotes the maximum anyone could ever get for violating a particular statute. Rarely does anyone get the maximum. The judge takes into account exactly what the person did, their record, etc. In most cases, the penalty is actually negotiated with the defendant via their attorney.

    The crime he was charged with would be something like "intentionally destroying property greater than $10,000". That covers taking a baseball bat to your ex-boyfriend's car, destroying the school computers, intentionally driving a bulldozer through someone's house, and lots of other ways of destroying lots of things. The WORST possible cases of "intentionally destroying property valued *over* $10,000" could get 10 years, if the defendant told the judge "fuck you, I'll do it again when I get out".

    You can reduce the judge's descretion by enacting a specific law against "destroying a schools computers" and another law against "destroying your neighbor's car" ans another against "destroying the judge's house", but I think we have enough laws already.

  23. Re: There was easier way for him to destroy those by YrWrstNtmr · · Score: 1

    Unless you personally use it 24/7 with no breaks, you can schedule that update and reboot for later that night, when you're asleep.

  24. "Cleanup" is not a doggammed verb by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Grammar, you know?

  25. Not PCs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The vast majority of PC motherboards is immune to this kind of device. The ones you can reliably kill are Macs (check YouTube, there are plenty of videos of hardware engineers explaining why Mac boards are designed by morons).

  26. This isn't a new or original idea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Many years ago I worked for a technical institute. Got an urgent call "the computers where exploding"

    Some little turd of an individual had switched all the machines off then set the power supplies to 110v (in a 220v country)
    So the next person to turn the machine on got a loud bang and smoke...

    Many machines where destroyed. Many courses had to be cancelled.

    People like this need locked up, forever.

     

    1. Re:This isn't a new or original idea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sounds like a design problem... the power supply should recognize input voltage on its own and adjust accordingly. Having a switch that results in a boom is bad design (unless that switch is a detonator)

    2. Re:This isn't a new or original idea by craighansen · · Score: 1

      Even the above post says "many years ago." 110+220 V power adapters that don't require an explicit switch ARE the norm these days.

  27. Please don't pretend to be retarded. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    A 15 inch MacBook Pro with maxed out hardware comes out to $6,649.

    $58,471 would buy you 8 MacBook Pros.

  28. US prison has free healthcare fmc roc mayo clinic by Joe_Dragon · · Score: 1

    US prison has free healthcare fmc Rochester has mayo clinic

  29. Re: There was easier way for him to destroy those by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Double faggot alert!

  30. "pled guilty" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So the cops allegedly had all this damning evidence against this guy. Should be pretty easy to get a real conviction from a jury of his peers, right? Yet nevertheless the unamerican nazis on the kangaroo kourt coerced him into "confessing".

  31. Re:Scum will do what scum does by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Take your meds.

  32. Re: diversity is truly our greatest strength by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    How's the weather in Kiev today, Sasha?

  33. Re:US prison has free healthcare fmc roc mayo clin by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You get what you pay for. "Free" healthcare means they hit you with tranquilizers, pain killers, etc until you stop complainin'. Doesn't mean they actually take care of you. You're in prison, wuddya expect?

  34. Re: There was easier way for him to destroy those by darth.hunterix · · Score: 1

    So, I have to leave my computer switched on for the entire night for Microsoft's convenience? Also, I might not want to install that particular update, what now?

    My computer exists only to serve me and obey only me. End of story.

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  35. Re: There was easier way for him to destroy those by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "My computer exists only to serve me and obey only me. End of story."

    Exact same sentiment that Microsoft has for their OS.

  36. Re: There was easier way for him to destroy those by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    No ... when you log off if gives you an option to install updates. My windows 10 laptop will even wake itself up from sleep during the night and install updates.

  37. An Indian? Who would have guessed it. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Another non-white parasite, desperate to ruin white countries. Thanks, Jews! I'm sure we'll forgive you!

  38. Proportional? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    So the kid gets 10 years for plugging in USB sticks, but the computer manufacturers who failed to build in adequate protection against faulty USB sticks get off free?

    The manufacturers CxOs should all get life!

    1. Re: Proportional? by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 1

      Protection against the 'killer' USB devices is a matter of cost.

      Anyone shipping computers that can't handle the 'pretty much any pin could get shorted to any other pin(s)' cases commonly caused by dodgy peripherals or connector and wiring damage is, indeed, doing shamefully shoddy work and deserves all the warranty returns they get(potentially more if the warranty is stingy). Some basic ESD endurance is also pretty much expected in consumer devices: requiring ESD protection measures on stuff that isn't bare components prior to assembly or oddball specialty hardware aimed at trained operators is pretty tacky

      However, the 'killer' widgets deliberately produce output much more hostile than any standard mishap(usually some sort of charge pump to obtain a voltage well above what's usually available and then hammer one or more of the lines with it until the port stops supplying it with enough power to recharge). If you want to resist that it will substantially increase cost and board space, especially for USB 3 that has more data lines to protect and needs to use protective methods that won't interfere with much higher speed signals. 'Industrial' USB isolation boxes can easily run you north of $100/port depending on how picky you are.

    2. Re: Proportional? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This device injects around 1 joule at 250V into the data pins. You can harden a device against this. It is however something that does not happen without malicious intent or a very big mistake (wiring USB cable to a power plug?). Where do you draw the line? There are mandatory EMC/esd immunity requirements btw, this is just too much.

  39. Re:US prison has free healthcare fmc roc mayo clin by stealth_finger · · Score: 1

    US prison has free healthcare fmc Rochester has mayo clinic

    I can guarantee you it ain't free.

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  40. 10 years is wayyy excessive by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Sentencing in this country is bananas

  41. Was anyone ever charged for the Etherkiller? by Shane_Optima · · Score: 2

    I have to admit, I laughed pretty hard the first time I saw the picture of the etherkiller. (Several people have made similar cables, usually much less hacky looking, e.g. with matching colored cables.)

    I always wondered if some poor bastard ever unwittingly plugged in one of these things that some malicious person left lying around and if so, what happened (and if anyone was ever charged.)

    1. Re:Was anyone ever charged for the Etherkiller? by Megane · · Score: 1

      and if anyone was ever charged

      Or even dis-charged.

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  42. Dumbass by DrXym · · Score: 1

    It's possible the cops / feds could have secured a conviction based on other evidence, but making video recordings of the criminal act is the sheer height of stupidity. I'd love to know why he was a "former student" but he's clearly not the sharpest tool in the drawer.

  43. $5000 in damages... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    $50000 in insurance claim.
    It's a beautiful thing when criminal and victim join hands to defraud the insurance company and and the lawyers get their cut.

  44. Re:Immigration reform by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    > This is why immigration reform is needed. Psychopaths like this one

    If you think about it objectively, a white-anglo-saxon-protestant guy in the same situation and mental state would have probably purchased a 30-rounder and walked around the campus wolfeinsteining any people on sight. This hindi guy just culled some beige boxes and neither humans nor cows were hurt. That's a much better outcome in my opinion.

  45. Re: US prison has free healthcare fmc roc mayo cli by Code+Herder · · Score: 1

    Honest question, Iâ(TM)m not american: is this seen as an unexpected good bonus? I honestly assumed they would get free healtcare since they cant go out and see a doctor or pay for it.

  46. Re: There was easier way for him to destroy those by Code+Herder · · Score: 1

    Funny thing, with the hacking laws he mightâ(TM)ve gotten MORE time in jails than simply wrecking the computers. Aaron swartz was going away for 35 years for download some science articles. Think about that, its insanity.

  47. Object lesson by argStyopa · · Score: 1

    Tangential to the subject of the article....look at all the consumers of the news who posted "omg 10 years in prison!" whose naivete allowed them to (somewhat) read the article, believe the idea that he's going to get 10 years (not understanding the hyperbole common to news reporting), and be outraged.

    Think of these naive and gullible news consumers next time you read about people being outraged (particularly non Americans commenting on American news) and how easily their feelings are accidentally or deliberately incited.

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  48. Re:Immigration reform by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Question 1: Are you a psychopath ?"
    "Yes"
    "Sorry, application denied".

    Maybe your magical foolproof filter can be applied to firearms licenses too ?

  49. Re:Didn't get 10 years Unless you want a million l by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yea - this is the situation. You have to believe in the judges to be fair (that's their job). The real sentence will probably be something like:
      - Pay for everything you broke, at the approximate present value of breaking it. +20%, because court costs or whatever.
      - X hours community service (work with the school to figure out how many weekends you get to work for them during the next 3 years, or homeless shelter or whatever)
      - 5 years probation (you do something like this again, and you're fucked)

  50. 10 years for that?! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    And the fuckers on Wall Street got a slap on the wrist. Nice morals in your stupid laws...

  51. Uh yeah by cascadingstylesheet · · Score: 1

    Vishwanath Akuthota, the former student

    Well I would certainly hope he's "former."

  52. What's newsworthy by MasseKid · · Score: 2

    I fail to understand why this is newsworthy. Next we will see an article about how you can buy hammers nearly anywhere and they can be used to do massive damage to cars, PCs, laptops, monitors, cell phones with no training at all!

  53. Re:There was easier way for him to destroy those P by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    wow, another anti-Microsoft circlejerk on Slashdot, how clever and original!

  54. Small Private Liberal Arts School by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So what's the big deal? The amount of damage is probably about half the cost of a year's attendance. No biggie. Daddy will pay it.

  55. The college had been asked to refrain from comment by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Sure. That's because of the problem that their security was so lax that the guy had physical access to so many machines. If the college had government-funding for some research, this would constitute gross negligence on its part, so the college would be in as much trouble as this guy.

  56. Re:NO NO! you dont know Akhuthota like i do.went t by greylion3 · · Score: 1

    in 10 years he would have Statute of limitations to remove the college damages bill.

    Except he made the news, so anyone searching for his name online can find the news articles.

    I remember some other case mentioned here a few years ago, where two wall street traders, or investors (not sure) were convicted of some type of financial fraud.
    After the statute of limitations, they tried to get Google to delete all mention of them, but Google refused.
    As their crime had also made the news back then, it came down to them essentially being part of history for it.

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  57. Re:US prison has free healthcare fmc roc mayo clin by Joe_Dragon · · Score: 1

    $2-3 copay fed
    TX $100/year MAX some situations are free and you get it even if you have no funds.

  58. Re:There was easier way for him to destroy those P by Tablizer · · Score: 1

    It's a joke, relax Satya.

  59. Re: US prison has free healthcare - YES by charliemerritt03 · · Score: 1

    Yes, you get free health care.
    Not always good care.
    Last time I was at the eye doctor there was a prisoner in handcuffs and belly chain sitting at the refractometer with a cop standing next to him. Nurse said they get 2-3 a week from the local jail.

    For the large prisons a lot of the medical needs [like glasses] are cared for inside the walls - I knew an internist and a psychiatrist that had offices inside the walls of San Quinton in California.

    There are some cases of people committing crimes in order to get healthcare.

  60. Re:US prison has free healthcare fmc roc mayo clin by stealth_finger · · Score: 1

    I didn't mean for the prisoner. It is probably even getting charged to the prison at a premium price because that bill is just handed over to the taxpayer. It ain't free, at all. It is strange though that prisoners seem to get better basic health care than the general public.

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  61. Not reflective of our educational system at all by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So yea and he made it to college! Go our education system..

    It's not like we're talking Stanford, University of Illinois, or MIT here. We're talking about a small college no one has heard of in Albany, NY. It may be a fine school, but probably not overwhelmed by applicants given its relatively unkown status.

    It should also be noted that he hasn't actually graduated from said college, merely attended. Plenty of washouts attend college but never finish.

    So this is hardly an indictment of our entire educational system. Maybe an indictment of the College of Saint Rose's admissions process, but even that's in question. For all we know this moron isn't a moron, has tested well on his SATs, had decent grades in high school, but has the emotional intelligence of a 3-year old. Most admissions processes will probably fail to identify the latter, particularly if the candidate is a good test taker and bullshits well in essays.

    1. Re:Not reflective of our educational system at all by Highdude702 · · Score: 1

      I'm sure if he was actually smart, he would have been smart enough to know recording his self was the stupidest thing he could have possible done. Just saying..

  62. 66 USB Chips by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Actual damages are 66 USB chips worth about $0.25 each.

    They can be replaced in about 15 minutes by a qualified solder technician making about $25/hr.

    Probably 3 days of work total at $200 each for labor.

    Total actual damages $616.50.

    1. Re:66 USB Chips by RockDoctor · · Score: 1
      ... unless the USB controllers are integrated into the rest of the communications bus controllers (do they still call them "Northbridge" and "Soutbridge"?) to reduce the chip count. Which is very common on barebones boxes for distribution to public computing areas.

      I wonder if the shifters of such boxes have considered the marketing benefits of a separate, grounded, USB board for the external sockets. Fry that and it's a 10$ fix, not a dead 250$ box - neglecting technician time.

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    2. Re:66 USB Chips by Antique+Geekmeister · · Score: 1

      $10 price difference is enough to sway a cost sensitive purchasing agent to buy a different brand. And the repair time or service call are much more expensive, taking the system offline for as much as a few weeks while the machines get pulled out of service, shipped to the vendor or an on-site tech visits, and the hosts repaired and tested.

  63. What a dumb ass by thunderclees · · Score: 1

    If found guilty, on top of remuneration to the school they should make him pay back all of the aid given to him in the US and then since he is here on a student visa, kick his dumb ass out of the US.

    Former Indian Student Arrested for Intentionally Causing Damage to Protected Computers Owned by Local College

  64. Morons abound by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Give him a year and a 25 million fine. Give the manufacturer 10 years and 250 million fine.

  65. I hope they covered _all_ the damage... by laird · · Score: 1

    I hope they accounted for all the damage that he did. He didn't just destroy some computers that have to be replaced, he's wasting a lot of people's time buying and setting up replacement computers, and may have destroyed work that was stored on the computers. And anybody that does something so randomly destructive needs to be punished in order to discourage future random destruction by others.

  66. It's just stuff, it's not like he hit anybody by edris90 · · Score: 1

    All world we live in , where raking some stuff is reacted to more seriously then physically assaulting a person. The world's full of stuff. Stuff comes and goes. Not a big deal.

  67. Proper restitution by gosand · · Score: 1

    Honestly, prison seems excessive for most any property crime. Restitution with penalties and interest, an ankle monitor, and a few years of weekends picking up trash seems good. Throw in a jumpsuit that says I'm the jackass that burned out the computers fr fun. If he doesn't seem genuinely repentant, make him wear donkey ears while he picks up the trash.

    Restitution should be having to pay for the replacement systems and personally rebuilding and configuring each one of them.

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    1. Re:Proper restitution by jpaine619 · · Score: 1

      Restitution should be having to pay for the replacement systems and personally rebuilding and configuring each one of them.

      Right.. That's the guy I want building my computers...... I hope you aren't serious..

  68. I still plan to get one of those.... by Fencepost · · Score: 1

    To use in training sessions at clients as to the danger of "found" USB keys. I figure bringing in a "trash" obsolete PC that needs to go to recycling anyway and frying it in front of a group of office staff may make an impression, particularly if I manage a model that smokes nicely.

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  69. Could this be avoided? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Wouldn't it be easy to put a rectifier or resistor on the board at the USB port to mitigate such attacks? Obviously I'm not a hardware engineer, just wondering...

  70. Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You can reduce the judge's descretion by enacting a specific law against "destroying a schools computers" and another law against "destroying your neighbor's car" ans another against "destroying the judge's house", but I think we have enough laws already.

    This doesn't solve the real problem anyway: how do you reduce the discretion of the one who is limiting the judge's discretion by passing these laws?
    Bottom line: define what is "just" in this situation. That is, what is the just penalty for this crime and who decides and how do we verify that that person's decision is correct?

    Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

    Sooner or later you just have to trust the ones who make the decisions and give them power to make those decisions.

  71. Re:US prison has free healthcare fmc roc mayo clin by jpaine619 · · Score: 1

    $2-3 copay fed TX $100/year MAX some situations are free and you get it even if you have no funds.

    Liberal? You do understand the previous poster was trying to point out the fact that someone is paying for it, right? Nothing is free, someone has to pay, in the end...

  72. Re: US prison has free healthcare fmc roc mayo cli by jpaine619 · · Score: 1

    Honest question, Iâ(TM)m not american: is this seen as an unexpected good bonus? I honestly assumed they would get free healtcare since they cant go out and see a doctor or pay for it.

    If you want to be honest, please call it Taxpayer funded healthcare. "Free" is a lie..

  73. Beef by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hindus don't actually consider cows to be gods, but they do consider them to be the divine examplar of motherly devotion, so grinding up a cow and eating it, to them, would be like what grinding up a puppy and eating it would be to us.

    When I was in India, I noticed that chain restaurants that in the US would serve hamburger served the same thing with lamb patties.

    ...actually pretty good. I think it was an improvement.

  74. Both good and bad [Re: Why Record Videos...] by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'll have to point out that I've also worked with some very very good Indian researchers. There are both good and bad students coming out of India.

    (much the same as in America).

    1. Re:Both good and bad [Re: Why Record Videos...] by buddyglass · · Score: 1

      My point was just to dispute the "Indians get a free rid to college whereas U.S. folks have to pay for it" complaint. Side note: if the person you were working with who didn't know her ass from a hole in the ground was hired by your company, then you're company is at least as bad at interviewing as she was at coding. :)

    2. Re:Both good and bad [Re: Why Record Videos...] by buddyglass · · Score: 1

      you're = your

  75. Sentence of UP TO 10 years by Geoffrey.landis · · Score: 1

    While I am sure you're right, and he certainly deserves some sort of punishment, does up to 10 years in prison (with up to three years of supervision after release) and a fine totaling up to $250,000 sound like proportional punishment to you?...

    Honestly, prison seems excessive for most any property crime.

    You did read that the penalty is "up to" ten years in prison. News stories always mention the maximum sentence for a crime, but first-time offenders with no aggravating factors never get sentenced to the maximum, and defendants that cooperate (by pleading guilty) always get a reduced sentence.

    My bet is that he gets sentenced to time served and a fine... and deportation.

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  76. Not news by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    A hammer is just the same. Not news worthy, just an idiot. Better on CNN