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How South Park Beat an NC-17
IMDB (I love this site) has
an article on how the
South Park movie escaped an NC-17 rating.
Comments on editing, and featuring the most amusing quote
" As with the comparatively
harmless Big Daddy (1999), the comic premise of South Park is based on the hilarity
ensuing from the corruption of children." This and Austin
Powers were the 2 comedies I was looking forward to this
summer.
they might walk out if they have strong religious/moral views.
It goes against my religion to see anything less than a NC-17, but maybe, for this one movie I can make an exception. I had to walk out of "Star Wars - Phantom Menace". After seeing most ( up to the stupid flight sequence ) of the movie, I swore I would never see anything less than a NC-17. I hope I am not disappointed.
Kevin Smith's "Clerks" (a hilarious film deserving of your attention) was the first film to be given an NC-17 on the basis of language, but the distribution company sued the MPAA and got it reduced to an R. One might think that sort of thing would set a precedent.
Its actually a musical.
what is it with american films/tv with musicals, they stink...first drew carey, south park...
peterrenshaw ~ Another Scrappy Startup
Here it comes. Duck!
Now that I am older and wiser, I would find this repulsive South Park "movie" to be totally without social and meaningful content. Of course, I haven't seen this movie nor would I stoop so low to actually see something that I would criticize. I'm told that this movie is harmful to children, is the leading cause of AIDS in this country, and has deep homosexual undertones (just like that Jar Jar character). Cartoons should be like Fantasia with dancing elephants wearing pink tutus (I hope they weren't gay).
This is extremely similar to when that horrible Ed Sullivan Show had the broadcast where Elvis Presley gyrated his hips. Well actualy pictures below his waist were not shown, but teenage girls knew what was happening. And don't get me started on the negative influence of the Beatles, Alice Cooper, Kiss, or John Tesh.
Okay you can look up now.
There is going to be a lot of "feedback" with regard to this movie. I suppose that this will lead to lead to the next "Columbine" in that Americans will swarm across the border to kill or neuter (not that need to be neutered) those awful Canadians:-). This is a knee-jerk time in the US and I fear the worst but hope for calmer heads to prevail. Unfortunately, politicians love sound bites, and a few will take advantage of this opportunity. Hey Liddy, wanna see a movie with me and leave Mr Viagra at home with his bigger, longer, and uncut?
Geez, I also hope they that they don't burn an American flag in that movie. Hopefully they will abide by the Ten Commandments, like thou shall not kill. Oh no, They killed Kenny!
Bonus Question: Name the only X/NC-17 movie that was chosen as best picture by the Academy Awards. Hint: Think thirty years ago.
>I mean, even austin's characters acknowledged the jokes were lame
But...that's the POINT...grrr...lamer.
I agree completly on SP not just being for kids, I had an english teacher once who absolutly loved the show, I can remember many an afternoon we wasted watching SP tapes when she ran out of things to teach. I haven't watched it in ages, but from what I remember a lot of the jokes would go right over the 11-14 year old's heads, heck I remember some that went over my head. but what the kiddies really miss is the satire. I personaly believe that childeren under the age of 15 or 16 shouldn't watch SP at all, I don't think any of them really understand the satire, they just see toilet humor.
-Ted
A Clockwork Orange? Well, almost thirty years ago.
Personally I think a funnier title is the Monkee's movie, "Head." According to Teri Garr, the reason for that name was that if there was a sequel, they could advertise it by saying "It's better than HEAD!"
If anyone saw Matt and Trey on Leno last week they would have heard the following story. When they were given a NC-17 rating, they found out what was offensive and made it a 100 times worse. Oddly enough, the worse scene was accepted. :)
Hey, our government kills US too (see Ruby Ridge, Wako, etc.). Don't take it personally.
FinkPloyd
"Bigger, Longer and Uncut" is in reference to a penis.
With the R rating, the largest market of south park viewers (those 11-14) is shot. I wonder how the movie will do at the box office.
Austin powers was funny, i want/need my own mini me.
I think it's going to be a riot. I don't see how it could be worse than Austin Powers. Good greif, the trailer for AP has oral sex jokes in it. But lets face it, the rating system is a joke. Most movie theaters don't check the ages of the individuals going in.
the good ground has been paved over by suicidal maniacs
When in doubt, pick a body part of natalie portman.
They were going to give this thing an NC-17 solely on the basis of swear words? When's the last time anyone did that? (Come to think of it, I don't think it's ever been done).
Then again, count in the inevitable Kenny death and Chef's singing and I suppose you might have enough that's strong enough to get it an R, but I think there was something else going on here. I'd imagine the ratings board was afraid of our friends the zealots screaming at them (considering that they were talking about the "corruption of children" that seems likely; I've never seen anyone but the zealots use that term). They already hate the series, so of course they'd go after the movie (both of these being thanks to their own rather blind assertion that animation isn't a medium but a genre).
Oh, yes, I'll be seeing this one. In fact, I can show this article to more than a few of my friends and it'll probably convince them to see it even though they hate the series (just to keep the zealots from having their way).
>Now finally with South Park the danger is clear. >South Park is animated characters saying swear >words *out of context* it would certainly be rated >only R it is so offensive only because of the >ideas it presents.
:-)
Oh, come now. Next you'll be telling me that a country could ban an operating system because of language contained in...er, never mind
JL Culp
Chairman, LPSC
yeah, or they could call it "Head II: twice the Head"
or, "2 Heads are better than one"
(or something dorky like that......)
Insert mind here.
As you and I know, the MPAA ratings are totally capricious, and are heavily influenced by the Big Studios. ("Henry, Portrait of a Serial Killer" is an X (it was released as "unrated"), while "Silence of the Lambs" is an R?) Any coherent person would look at the MPAA and say "OK, and the raters are on what drugs?"
The problem with the MPAA is that their ratings get turned into laws. What most people don't know is that most communities have zoning laws against various theaters showing "unrated" or X/NC-17 movies. And now, with the push to legalize (ie codify) the "under-17 not admited without an adult" of the R, they're actively engaging in censorship.
I think the MPAA should just go away. Period. I'd love it if there was some way for a PICS-like system to work for movies, but I doubt this will happen. Perhaps something like a 4-number rating system that others have suggested (a Sex/Language/Violent/Adult Content thing). In the end, though, I hate zoning laws, and I absolutely refuse to accept any codification of a ratings system.
Thing is, this is so much more pervasive and allows no discretion on a community basis. At least with indecent/obscenity laws, there is the "community standards" basis. With the MPAA and the coming trend, some bunch of people that you don't know, can't talk to, and have no idea what you're interested may be dictating your viewing simply by applying a label to some movie.
This is simply about as un-American as it gets.
There are always four sides to every story: your side, their side, the truth, and what really happened.
I just saw the movie and the bottom line is: if you like the show at all go see the movie. I was really afraid it was going to be the a lame longer rehash of the show - but it really is "bigger, longer and uncut" as advertised. If you imagine the tv show as lite beer the movie is vodka served through a fire hose.
The scenes that make this movie worth it on their own:
-The Bill Gates scene
-Satan and Sadam in bed
-Coach's advice
-The Jar-Jar Binks moment
and so on...
It is basically a musical but don't let that throw you - I had musicals but I loved it. Let's face it - Saddam Hussein singing to profess his love for Satan is not exactly Andrew Lloyd Weber. (Although the lyric "Giving hand-jobs for crack" in the chorus may have come from _Cats_...)
Anyway - I'd say see it. If you liked South Park at all on TV it'll rock your world. I'll probably see it again because I missed about a 1/3 of it because of the laughter.
Enjoy -
=tkk
"Where is your God now? He is the biggest bitch of them all...."
Bill Gates - Creationist?!?
Is southpark made on a computer?
...and not Debra Winger (An Officer and a Gentleman).
Yeah, I know, it's late, and I'm tired too. Good night.
I've seen PG movies which had enough gore in them to make Scream look mild (though it was "animated" or "fantasy" violence), and on the other hand, the original Pyscho is rated R despite being free of anything I could deem offensive (though it is certainly scary).
Point is, you can't depend on the MPAA for anything other than a massively sweeping generalization, which I can get from looking at a 30-second preview. It serves no useful purpose. How am I supposed to be able to tell if my 14-year old cousin should see the latest super-action PG-13 flick? Certainly not though the MPAA.
I'd rather there NOT be any rating; that way, parents would actually have to pay attention to what reviewers and writeups of the movie said, and be able to make some sort of an informed opinion. Trusting the MPAA to do your judging for you is being a bad parent.
There are always four sides to every story: your side, their side, the truth, and what really happened.
Just curious ----- how many people when compiling one of last few versions of Eterm noticed during the config script when it output the following;
Checking kenny for signs of life...........
none
You killed kenny
You bastard!!!
I laughed my ass off.
Possible Spoliers??
OOOOH NO! You ruined it! How could I go see it now that you've ruined the suspense that is an integral part of South Park.
...there is no way in hell I'd let any child of mine anywhere near that movie.
The Soundtrack is foul and funny as shit. They are pushing it to the edge.
Remember movies get ratings based on conent and context. The corruption, excuse me, the complete and total corruption of little White Kids is not something censors have any sense of humor about in 'Merka.
Remember the movie Kids, a movie that should be *required viewing* by teenagers (IMHO)? They cut the movie to hell and gone and still could not get an R-rating?
Or how about the horrible Spawn movie? They wanted to, and damned near did, give it a R rating simply because it was about a guy who went to hell and came back...just to keep the kids away from it since it was based on a comic book.
BTW, South Park ROOOLS...when it isn't in perpetual repeats...
-K
One day, you'll learn to watch what you post...
You'll see.
It's a great movie for aduls, but 13years/younger really have no business in the theatre.
I think limits should be placed on *kids* not adults.
My two boys won't be seeint it hat is for damned sure.
I'll be at the matinee =)
-K
One day, you'll learn to watch what you post...
I'm sure we would all have missed it were it not for your quick wit.
The last cartoon movie to get an X rating that I know of was "Fritz the Cat." I'll have to take notes and see which of the two is more offensive. Fritz didn't strike me as any worse than an R rated movie of our time. Fritz was a good social commentary in its time and I'm sure the Southpark movie will be as well (Certainly, the TV show is.) If that makes the people who rate the movies uncomfortable, so be it. I'm surprised they didn't WANT the NC17 rating. It would have been great advertising.
too bad i have no tv..
Seems to me the whole question of "protecting" children from sex, violence, or anything else parents consider objectionable is just a cop-out. It allows parents to avoid discussing these things with their kids. Now I'd been exposed to enough sex, drugs, and violence by age five that there isn't much I see now which would have surprised me then. Did it warp my growth? Turn me into a serial-killing, drug-taking sex maniac? No. Why? Because although I was exposed to these things, my parents talked to me about it, told me what they thought, asked what I thought, discussed values (mine and theirs) in language that I, as a 5-year-old, could understand.
Censorship is not a substitute for good parenting. It isn't even a help. Children are probably better off being exposed to things their parents consider objectionable, and then discussing them, thinking about them, and producing informed opinions through conversation with their more experienced parents.
The point is, children have the same rights as adults - the right to choose. The responsibility of the parent is to help them choose, and provide the benefits of age/wisdom/experience in helping them learn from the consequences of the choices they make. To refuse children the right to see sex and violence if they want to is just a way of asserting power over what they can see, hear, and think. This has no effect but that of crippling their mental development - and consequently that of the adults in the population later on. Certainly most adults today are appallingly stupid, have shockingly little regard for others, and are emotionally stunted losers. This doesn't include you, of course.
And, if we get right down to it, if we didn't tell them it was forbidden, just how interested would children BE in violence (which often scares them) or sex (which bores them - at least until they hit puberty)?
see, its ok to beat people up, and ok to have sex..
we just dont want them doing both at the same time.
after Herbert Hoover we just had to say 'no more'.
i think this is the root of most of that
sort of anti-sex thing. we had to get rid of one of them,
and we cant get rid of violence because the defence
industry employs so many people! so we had to keep that going.
but the sex industry, well, you dont have to prop
that up to keep it going!
With a budget of only $20 Million (relatively low these days for a hollywood flick), I think SP is gonna totally make some mad cash.
-- My neighbors dog has a four inch clit.
Its pretty clear from a lot of comments as well as the orignal article that the movie isn't worth seeing. Save your self the time, and money. Skip big Daddy also, another lame movie.
Americans never cease to amaze me. Why are sexual references corrupting, and why is it okay to kill Kenny ? (Actually I don't know Kenny so I don't have an opinion on whether it's okay to kill him ;-) )
In this discussion about this rating thingie there seem to be two themes that, according to the peeps here, (don't) justify this rating.
Sex:
It seems that victorian values are still in place. Sex is bad, especially when someone speaks about it or even covertly refers to it. Kids should be kept completely ignorant about the existance of anything remotely connected to sex. Why bother them with knowledge that could prevent teenage pregnancies and perhaps even sexual abuse. We wouldn't want to give the kids any ideas now would we ?
Violence:
On the other hand it's apparently okay to show kids people being killed, mutilated or violated. Kids can judge what's real and what's not. Kids know satire when they see it. Kids know they shouldn't kill any reallife Kennies.
I don't want to say what's the best way to teach children values, or whether it's good to expose them to violence or sex.
I just want to point out that there is a weird difference in the way these two issues are judged by a lot of people, even very intelligent ones.
Sidenote:
A poll might be interesting: Would you rather have your kids:
- having safe sex ?
- beating people up ?
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I saw an interview where Matt and Trey were talking about how they had made some really nasty songs up just to parody Disney movies. You know those disney movies that break into some inane song at random times? Well, SP does it too but with a more, how shall we say, "lower" level.
:)
I can't wait to see it
Apparently, it is ok for women to be fully nude in movies but show one inch of a man and BAM! X. Unless there is a nature theme or Jungle element...
While I don't mind that Women are nude in movies, I think they should treat nudity the same with both genders.
That's:
"We train our young men to drop fire on people. But we won't let them write the word 'fuck' on their airplanes because it's obscene."
--- Kurtz, _Apocalypse Now_
-- Rick
I'm pretty sure I saw a copy of Orgazmo at my local Blockbuster.... and the director's cut of films like Basic Instinct, Henry: Portrait of a Serial Killer, etc.
-Stu
I remember when License to Kill came out it was rated R. A few years later when it came out on tape it was PG-13. Just think in a few more years Sout Park could have that low a rating.
I know one major reason no major production houses will release NC-17 rated movies is because Blockbuster Video has specifically refused to carry NC-17 rated movies in any of their stores.
Sam: "That was needlessly cryptic."
Max: "I'd be peeing my pants if I wore any!"
I do not believe that tv/cinema influence children really, Oh, of course not. Television has no infuence on people's actions whatsoever. And the billions of dollars spent on advertising during the superbowl/world series/othermega$porting event are entirely wasted.
Screw you guys, I'm a-goin' home.
We're going down, in a spiral to the ground
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Simpletoneity, n. -- The phenomenon of many people all doing the same stupid thing at the same time.
There goes the idea to rent the NC-17 version of "Crash" eh? :-) I wonder who would have that and not the lame R rated version.
There was a shlong sighting in Wild Things but it was rated R. Granted, it was "brief".. extremely brief. ;-)
Always had. Remember Cartman's "Kyle's mom is a bitch", Stan's "To be a Jew on Christmas", or "Mr Hanky the Christman Poo"? These probably aren't the actual titles but you will remember the songs :)
I certainly hope South Park is better than Austin Powers 2. That movie sucked... I mean, even austin's characters acknowledged the jokes were lame...
I saw the creators of South Park on the Late Show
They said they actually made the movie more
obscene as a joke after they got the nc-17 rating
The committee told them they liked the changes
but that more were necassery. so they made the
movie more obscene and changed the title from
South Park all hell breaks loose to
South Park bigger longer, and uncut "penis?"
It has been statistically shown that helmets increase the risk of head injury.
i believe the ratings people kinda have a bit of a grudge against matt and trey... orgazmo was rated nc17 and there isn't any real nudity at all..
Damn I gotta start reading these things like 2,000 times, someone always manages to exploit my text. What I MEANT, is that if someone sees an act of voilence on tv, that I do not believe it will influence them to go out and kill someone. Not that if they see a candy bar commercial they may want one.
Your Momma's so fat she makes emacs look like nano!
C'mon, we already had one full movie of it. Austin Powers 2 would have been far more tolerable if it stuck to the half hour of new material and ditched the product placements. The Heineken plug in the movie was brutal.
Why is it that we're so hung up on not giving films an NC-17 rating? It just keeps the damned kids out and lets mature adults laugh at the hilarity without the brats sitting behind us being stupid. Unfortunately it's also the kiss of death since you'll never get it into one of the megaplexes. Why even have an R rating that is supposedly for people over 17 if you're going to let kids in with an adult anyway??? What is the difference if they are alone or with their parents when an alien is biting the head off a guy?
It has everything :)
I think people need to take another look at this whole thing... I don't know about you all, but i knew all the offensive four letter words there were to know by the time i was 8 years old. So did all my friends... When there are no adults around, most little boys have a good sailor's mouth.
The thing that is funny to me is the social comentary, and the nothing is sacred type of satire... I personally think that anybody who can't laugh at themselves should be shot, or at least castrated/spayed.
I think the cursing and such all is just an excuse for all the uptight brainwashed homorless masses trying hard to maintain their false dignity and their stiff uppper lip to try to keep a lid on something that makes fun of them (and everybody else).
P.S. I don't even have a TV but i will probably go and see the movie...
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Play Six Pack Man. I
maybe they will re release 'mammy' in the
theatre.
Don't get me started. Criminy! Did you CnP from the press release? "Two crazy local..." Morning radio "shows" are the biggest waste of electricity since they stopped showing "Leave it to Beaver". "Morning DJ's" are the biggest losers... AIGH! Too frustrated to make a coherent sentence! It sucks! Make them stop! Lame!
RinkRat
catchy tunes?
Well, I guess "Uncle Fucker" was pretty good....
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Funny you should mention that. Kyle's mom in the movie says something just like that.
Demona's Law - "User data expands to exceed available bandwidth." ("User data" being pr0n, mp3's, vob's,
enlightenment really checks to see if you have
a library called libFridge and if the function
mass_quantities_of_any_ale (or something simmilar)
is in the library. You can make a check for it
yourself just compile a library full of stubs.
then it won't complain
It has been statistically shown that helmets increase the risk of head injury.
This is a war movie?
http://us.imdb.com/Title?0158983
obviously someone missed the circumcision episode
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Sure they can get in, but speaking from experience (I turned 17 this year), often times the only option is to buy tickets to other movies. Tarzan tickets will skyrocket, but the Tarzan theatre will be empty :)
Erik
I saw a screening of the movie last night.
:O) from which they develop potty mouth. The rest of the movie involves the parents of sp lead by Kyles mom
:)) As I said the movie swings alot between really great and really awful, most of the awful bits are stupid tasteless dialog (dont get me wrong I like stupid tasteless dialog, but it gets a bit tried after the first 15 minutes) parts.
:)
For those of you who are curious it varies from
completely hilarious to completely awful. And yes
the NC-17 rating is completely deserved, if not for the continous stream of bad language (more then a Dennis Leary/Andrew Dice Clay combo special) then for many, many downright nasty allusions/jokes (most of the sexual).
Now onto the movie itself.
Its actually a musical.
The plot more or less runs like: Kids go see new Terrance and Philip movie (its a foreign film from Canada doncha know?) which contains profuse amouts of bad language (one whole musical number is compesed almost entirely of swearing
attempting to cure/rescue thier children from this
awful affliction.
The movie is at its best during the musical numbers which are grand in the finest broadway/classical tradition. (Cartmans solo song about Kyles mother is particularly memorable)
The jokes are extremely crude and crass, (and I mean REALLY crude and crass) anyone who has not
seen an episode of southpark in thier lives might be offended to the point where they might walk out if they have strong religious/moral views. Parents be warned, be sure to explain to your kids the difference between satire (the movie) and blind repetition lest you risk your kids coming down with the same problems the sp kids have. (trust me the tunes are pretty catchy, and not a one is something you want to be singing out loud in public
Anyhow, overall impression was that it was a decently entertaining movie. Bad dialog, great musical numbers, average (crude) jokes and one truly great scene involving Bill Gates.
I can imagine there wont be much of a middle ground for reviews on this movie, you will either like it, or absolutely detest it.
Having said that I suggest you go see the movie and find out which category you are in!
It seems most people accept movie ratings (especially the NC-17 rating systems) as acceptable because they merely protect children from swears and nudity and not political speech or ideas. I mean if we tried to prohibit even children from hearing the republican platform because it referenced abortion the civil rights activists would be up in arms.
Now finally with South Park the danger is clear. South Park is animated characters saying swear words *out of context* it would certainly be rated only R it is so offensive only because of the ideas it presents.
If south park didn't offend tradiational religious views or racial issues there would have been no question it would recieve an R. This means it was threatened with an NC-17 rating BECAUSE OF THE IDEAS IT PRESENTED.
Marriage is the "pseudo-ethics" that cloaks the messy truth of sexuality in the raiment of propriety -- it's "Don't Ask,
When they have children they act like they're cabbage patch kids. When the children start needing guidance they ignore them and have more babies.
Pretty soon we'll be overpopulated like China and as a direct result a fully totalitarian state.
We can thank the publishers of See Dick and Jane for this.
When it's obvious that children are in fact capable of learning multiple languages and having a great time doing it they get See Dick and Jane.
What is this? Some conspiracy to dumb down prallel processors like our world's kids so that serial processors like parents can pretend to understand them?
Here's a challenge:
See Dick. See Jane. See Jane chase after Dick.
I'm willing to bet you couldn't explain those three sentences to kids in the context I meant them without failing in one or more of the following ways:
Guaranteed you'd leave them confused. No chance in Hell they'd grow up without a sexual complex.
Could never do it with a straight face and openly.
And you'd probably wait till they beat you to it (God bless them, they might just turn out normal without contracting a disease)
You know, it's expected in some cases. Not everyone knows enough history to know whom to listen to. Not everyone can dismiss religion without flinching and at the same time embrace spirituality. (if that confuses you I'm sad really) I know of one exception. My local pastor knows the whole media = murder school theory is bullshit.
seriously go get a dog the next time your parental nerve itches.
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It's what drives the 13 minute hate.
The ship sank. Get over it. (This sig was cut out from another's shirt and painstakingly hand-posted)
Take some mescaline a touch of acid and watch that a couple of times. A full education into everything about humanity and the universe and of course:
:)
SEX, FOOD, LOVE, and MURDER!
Director Peter Greenaway rules!
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I was growing up in Houston when this movie came out... I think that's when my utter intolerance for posers was born.
Owning a beat-up pickup truck with a beat-up Gilley's bumper sticker is still a sign that you're Hard Core in this town, though.
AC (I rode the bull and pissed blood for two days!)
Kids really don't need to see the scene where the crow bleeds to death, or the bit where the fat chick gets the biker to come back by holding up a syringe. The "I'm a failure as a pot smoker" scene, on the other hand, should be spliced into those movies they show in Health class, along with the uncut version of Kids ("Jesus Christ, what happened?")
I was carded TWICE while going to see this movie.. once at the ticket counter and once when they took my ticket. They then had someone standing at the doors to the room checking tickets. I'm 28 years old for christ's sake.. I nearly left twice (imagine that), but of course I'm a weak spineless slave to the movies (where else would I find out how to think?).
Seriously though, the movie still could have gotten an NC-17 and I wouldn't have been surprised (once I saw the movie, that is). I just resent the fact someone thinks I look like I'm 16 or they are just doing a blanket "card everyone" policy to protect their little asses from crazy parents and religious zealots.
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"Insert witty quote here."
Personally, I can't stand that freaking show. Yea, a bunch of kids swearing racial slurs in an annoying voice which kids love to mimick. Funny at first, after a while the show got very repetative and annoying (mad magazine had a nice parody of the theme song and such). And even though I do not believe that tv/cinema influence children really, this show/movie probably will. Yea don't ya love it when children start using racial slurs they found from that lame show? It should've been nc-17 if it was that bad, and it would make it even harder for kids to get in. Yea, sorry about the flame bate, I probably wouldn't say the same for any other show, I just started hating this one after it got old and all them damn little kids started wearing those stupid south park shirts and hats and saying "HHHEHHH!, ahm cotman!, HHHEEHH!". At that point it got very annoying.
Your Momma's so fat she makes emacs look like nano!
Is there any inside info about what was cut to give it an R?
-Doviende
"The value of a man resides in what he gives,
and not in what he is capable of receiving."
"The value of a man resides in what he gives,
and not in what he is capable of receiving."
--Albert Einstein
South Park is NOT for kids. That's why it's on at 10:00 pm in the middle of the week. We may also find NYPD Blue and ER at this same time. These shows are meant to be viewed by adults. Any parent that complains that his/her child picked up a racial slur or bad word from South Park should have monitored the child's viewing in the first place.
Most political views and language patterns are learned from parents and peers, not evil old TV. Some kids may enjoy mimicking fat old Cartmen, but I'm sure they wouldn't really laugh if their poor friend got killed every week.