If you cant, then there sets the stage for the next Freedom of Speech Act. What develops when you restrict freedoms using ambiguous wording such as bullying, is a serious violation of your freedom to express.
The only thing that will happen is that they will thoughtfully persecute and then prosecute anyone who posts messages that do not fit into the governing body's ideologies.
Thanks Sean- and by the way- You are so full of crap.
1 person alone has several accounts that are live in each game- that person has 5- 12 aliases on those said accounts- and that right there could inflate your numbers by as much as 12 -60 members.
The fact that you would actually respond to all of this, Sean, adds to the significance of your mental dilemma.
You said:"We have no internal drama.. no members quitting over fighting.. no personality issues resulting in quitting " oh yeah? Well why in the F*** did I quit then? I blieve it was all about me telling you that I would rather have my teeth knocked out with a ball pin hammer and then re-inserted than to listen to you gush about yourself in the daily updates....that and the kiddie pool you lifegaurd was kind of crowded.
Sean needs a psychiatrist- and that is the end of it.
Who in the hell would buy a book written by the founder of an online club? And lets face it, its a club- like the 4H Club.
This is about profit and money for himself, and over the years, you can see a Sean emerge from ultra-paranoid and stealth identity, to a person who has taken extra steps to thrust himself into the public eye.
My own experiences in this guild as an adult member of 3+ years says this:
The size of this is grossly exaggerated- their registry of members never changes
The roster also is full of duplicated members- so if you are a member and playing 5 games, you have five alias, and thus those 5 names count as "membership"
There is an "elite" group within the organization that simply dont pay for their resources, thanks in part to the fair number of members that are minors who are willing to pay "dues" so that the elite group can be paid.
We track "phrase verification" in that we scan hundreds of thousands of text in a given minute. Those phrases are matched against other words in an algorithm and then scored in about 1-3 seconds. When a phrase such as "obliterate the infadels" is located, the article is then sent to a "deep scrub" where several algorithms are used to independently score the email.
A technician monitors the process and takes the scores that were given independently of one of another when they are finished processing to determine if it needs to be reviewed.
Upon notification of a "hit", the tech then requests approval, which requires several steps in which legal verification is given to actually read the email.
At this point the context of the email, the identity, and the location of the author and recipient of said email is unknown.
Once approval is given, the document is then sent to another team to review, where several people will look into said email independent of one another.
This process is sooooo slow, that it could be several days before proper investigation is completed- thus never truly circumventing the 911 hypothesis that we had the data and did nothing about it. Possession of this data does not make it actionable and the point here is that we have several levels of capture, decryption, and evaluation before action even occurs.
And lets just make one thing very very clear. We've been gathering data from the internet since the the late 90's. The fact that the public is suddenly very keen to it is a non-factor. The legality has only come into question recently and at this point it doesnt matter. The government will smile and say "okay" to whatever you say, but will continue to gather and filter intelligence in the background. The bottom line is that the public has only so much say on matters of national security. That's why there is a difference between a civilian and a soldier.
"Enough is enough. Open Source has grown up. Now it is time for us to stand up."
Does this mean you guys are going to get rid of that pacifier and get rid of that smelly diaper you are wearing? I think you should because you seem to be quite full of it, [a.k.a. Full of It]
The problem here is that we want all the perks with none of the funding- and that includes man-power as well. Greedy little environmentalists with lib-commie tendencies that only care if it interferes with the mating habits of some spring beetle, and even then, it needs to come with an acronymn that would look cool on a bumper sticker on the back of your prius.
Here's a little idea for you- why dont you enlist, or join the federal government, and then take in the complete understanding of the word "shoe string". Then you will have additional support and blame for why the republicans are terrible as well as enough fodder to convince yourself that another party could do better.
The reality here is that the citizens of the USA are NOT committed to themselves as a nation, but themselves as a consumer- liberal environmentalists not excluded.
I guess all they needed was an acronymn and something that could build enough red tape to make it more profitable for the bureacrats.
Good for you. Double the cost of jet fuel while you're at it, please? Then we can blame anything that moves for the sluggish world wide economy when you are all done hugging trees.
Their problem is that they dont know what to do- this is such a hot and competitive market right now, how do you justify a proce drop without contemplating that your competitor will do the same?
I think they feel the market response with these comments and measure both responses (consumer and competitor) to determine what the timing is right now.
This just in: More FUD. Steve Jobs admits he has no idea what to do next, makes contradictory statements that have nothing in content but are highly subjective to interpretive conspiracists.
One source is quoted as saying "Steve then turned and looked at his handlers and said 'Can you believe these Apple people? They're so stupid that they'll buy anything. Hey Tom! Green light on the iPOD Pet Rock'
In other news, Jobs, announced a new product call the iRock, a pet rock that sits on your desk and can play iTunes....
You have no idea what you are talking about. The only thing the French Resistance did well was help smuggle downed US airman back out of France. My grandfather told me that the only reason there was a French Resistance was because they tried to play kiss ass with Hitler - and they were rewarded by being invaded. He's fond of saying "all 3 times that I had to bail out over Germany (he was a tailgunner) I was more than fortunate to hide in the barn with all the brave Frenchmen who were also hiding in there."
The only reason they smuggled the US soldiers back out, he maintains, was because they were incapable of saving themselves.
Tell you what- upload the data to a website and lets confirm the hearsay on your trip from MA to TX.
Oh thats right! You were just taling because you knew no one would be able to check on your information.
I was at least willing to argue my point, and as you can see I may be a little bit off in my data, I am still more closer to the truth than you are.
The thing is, my knowledge comes from actual experience- that is, manufacturer experience from the years 2001 - 2003. The latest Hybrid improvements, such as warranties for 8 years now, is about the only thing I may have been wrong about.
I cite the volumes of complaints on people not getting MPG promised as my data for proof. I also cite the experience I had handling complaints and field testing as well as submitting the reccomendation for driver education courses by TMS to combat this problem.
I worked for a dealership that sold more Prius's in the United States than any other. You can go ahead with your pop-culture assessment which is based on your 25 man Prius club, plus your single variable day to day driving experience.
I on the other hand had a large volume of data feedback, factory response, and internal conversations that your public mouth would never be privy to.
I enjoy the name calling - its where most people go when they have lost their ability to reason and debate, as do most who have liberal minds.
Late response on this but in fact- the training from TMS (Toyota Motor Sales for people who have never worked there) states:
"If you touch one of those exposed cables and a live current rolls through, the current will find the weakest joint and explode it. You will likely lose an arm in addition to being severely electrocuted."
I remember this vividly but it is good to know that EMS training is now occuring on this. I used to always wonder how emergency response teams would know any better.
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I look at this arguement the same way I look back at the recent discussion on Hybrids and how great they are.
Any time a bunch of know it alls get in a room there will never be an agreement. Add the fact that a majority of the people on the soapbox are activists who simply want socialism (i.e. everything is free and theft is only wrong if you are stealing from someone less fortunate than you)
And what you come up with is a bunch of half-wits claiming intellectual superiority and factual representation, whcih always ends with name calling and insults (again- see my posts in the most recent hybrid vehicle discussion).
Smirk and walk away I say- enlightenment is an individual occasion and is subject to the depth of one's understanding of reality.
Is there a recycling plan in place for nickel-metal hydride batteries? Toyota has a comprehensive battery recycling program in place and has been recycling nickel-metal hydride batteries since the RAV4 Electric Vehicle was introduced in 1998. Every part of the battery, from the precious metals to the plastic, plates, steel case and the wiring, is recycled. To ensure that batteries come back to Toyota, each battery has a phone number on it to call for recycling information and dealers are paid a $200 "bounty" for each battery.
Uh yeah. And then what? Just because they say its there doesn't mean it exists. The reality check is on you- I know for a fact that there will be piles of this just sitting around. The entire reason they discontinued the Rav4 is because they felt that it cost too much money to produce this vehicle and it was centered entirely around the batteries you quote.
Steep value in 6? I sure can being that car manufacturers innovate every 5 years, and the technology gets better. So you are trying to tell me that you want a shelf life 7 yr hybrid battery in a car with 100k + miles? Who would buy that? Where would you find a vehicle marketplace for that product? Granted I am not speaking to the person who drives 8k or less a year in miles, but a majority of drivers are in the 12-18k miles per year. So yes, I can prove this given the out-mode model, the battery expiration date of year 7, and the driver depreciation rate per mile.
Thanks for agreeing with #3
#2- All batteries are toxic. Its a high concentration of chemicals- and if it isnt, then why dont you plant one in your vegetable garden and feed yourself for a year on the plants you grow there (if they grow at all).
#1 on miles- I held back one fact. The original prius was designed on a maximum speed to efficiency of 55 mph ( I think it was something like 55.8 but I am not exactly sure what tenths it was). The recent prius was designed in much the same manner. The highest rate of efficiency was found at 30-40 mph, and the cliff of efficiency declined for every mile above that. Freeway speeds such as 70mph will IN FACT put you into the SUV mpg territory. And that is a single person no load condition. Load 4 passengers and all their gear for a 4 day weekend- and you are in fact at SUV MPG.
I used to be the Customer Relationship Manager at a Toytota dealership- I was happy enough to have a job given that I graduated college just as the bubble burst out here in Silicon Valley.
Here are a few things that I have always known about Hybrids:
#1 The best milage comes from the most conservative driving. #2 The batteries are more toxic than those in a normal car- and with each hybrid carrying between 5 and 7 of those batteries, they are not better for the environment. #3 The total energy used to manufacter a hybrid vehicle is higher than what it is for a regular vehilce of same size. #4 The depreciation rate is held up by popular opinion. This is true in all vehicles, but the steep cliff at year 6 is going to make most people unhappy, and the battery replacement at year 8 will be a very large cost to shoulder and may drive many people out of this market all togeather. #5 There is currently no plan for the recycling of these batteries.
Most hybrids I see on the freeway are exceeding 70mph and are changing lanes frequently. What is on the window is irrelevant given the way that most people here in the US jump in their car and blindly drive these cars with the pedal on the floor.
I'm sick of international people who use the word "American" to typify a country and cultural without considering that in fact they just characterized an entire geographic area with flame.
If I am incorrect to assume that you are from outside a place, which I can only guess is the United States of America due to your vague off-topic tirade, then:
FIRST: I owe you an apology for assuming that you arent from here. Threats like these either come from foreign governments or aspiring socialists.
SECOND: If you are a citizen, there are many places you can move to after you renounce your citizenship- which I encourage you to do ASAP. There is Canada and Venezuela if you don't want to travel too far- please note that these are both good choices for socialists and liberals alike.
In closing I would like to remind you that despite your cry for improvements, you have neglected your self imposed responsibility by not educating yourself on the finer points of education. First and foremost, you are not only speaking out of turn but severely off topic and in a secular forum. But secondly, you seem to have a contextual impression that everything is related to everything else, and there are no singular independences at work in the world that we live in.
Blame yourself for your own short-comings because there is not a single government (not even North Korea) that can compensate for a low investment in due dilligence that has fed your unusually low self esteem.
In short, you sir go fuck yourself, and I hope to God that there is a bus out there with your name on it waiting for that fateful day when you step off the curb without looking and runs you over.
God Bless America and all the legal citizens who belong here.
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Can someone please help us define "bullying"?
If you cant, then there sets the stage for the next Freedom of Speech Act.
What develops when you restrict freedoms using ambiguous wording such as bullying, is a serious violation of your freedom to express.
The only thing that will happen is that they will thoughtfully persecute and then prosecute anyone who posts messages that do not fit into the governing body's ideologies.
Whatever.
OMFG I think I just became your biggest fan.
I just had to close the door of my office because I was laughing so hard [no joke ]
so true....
Thanks Sean- and by the way- You are so full of crap.
:"We have no internal drama.. no members quitting over fighting.. no personality issues resulting in quitting " oh yeah? Well why in the F*** did I quit then? I blieve it was all about me telling you that I would rather have my teeth knocked out with a ball pin hammer and then re-inserted than to listen to you gush about yourself in the daily updates....that and the kiddie pool you lifegaurd was kind of crowded.
1 person alone has several accounts that are live in each game- that person has 5- 12 aliases on those said accounts- and that right there could inflate your numbers by as much as 12 -60 members.
The fact that you would actually respond to all of this, Sean, adds to the significance of your mental dilemma.
You said
Sean needs a psychiatrist- and that is the end of it.
Who in the hell would buy a book written by the founder of an online club? And lets face it, its a club- like the 4H Club.
This is about profit and money for himself, and over the years, you can see a Sean emerge from ultra-paranoid and stealth identity, to a person who has taken extra steps to thrust himself into the public eye.
My own experiences in this guild as an adult member of 3+ years says this:
The size of this is grossly exaggerated- their registry of members never changes
The roster also is full of duplicated members- so if you are a member and playing 5 games, you have five alias, and thus those 5 names count as "membership"
There is an "elite" group within the organization that simply dont pay for their resources, thanks in part to the fair number of members that are minors who are willing to pay "dues" so that the elite group can be paid.
The list goes on- but so freakin what.
ACTUALLY-
We track "phrase verification" in that we scan hundreds of thousands of text in a given minute.
Those phrases are matched against other words in an algorithm and then scored in about 1-3 seconds.
When a phrase such as "obliterate the infadels" is located, the article is then sent to a "deep scrub" where several algorithms are used to independently score the email.
A technician monitors the process and takes the scores that were given independently of one of another when they are finished processing to determine if it needs to be reviewed.
Upon notification of a "hit", the tech then requests approval, which requires several steps in which legal verification is given to actually read the email.
At this point the context of the email, the identity, and the location of the author and recipient of said email is unknown.
Once approval is given, the document is then sent to another team to review, where several people will look into said email independent of one another.
This process is sooooo slow, that it could be several days before proper investigation is completed- thus never truly circumventing the 911 hypothesis that we had the data and did nothing about it. Possession of this data does not make it actionable and the point here is that we have several levels of capture, decryption, and evaluation before action even occurs.
And lets just make one thing very very clear. We've been gathering data from the internet since the the late 90's. The fact that the public is suddenly very keen to it is a non-factor. The legality has only come into question recently and at this point it doesnt matter. The government will smile and say "okay" to whatever you say, but will continue to gather and filter intelligence in the background. The bottom line is that the public has only so much say on matters of national security. That's why there is a difference between a civilian and a soldier.
"Enough is enough. Open Source has grown up. Now it is time for us to stand up."
Does this mean you guys are going to get rid of that pacifier and get rid of that smelly diaper you are wearing? I think you should because you seem to be quite full of it, [a.k.a. Full of It]
The problem here is that we want all the perks with none of the funding- and that includes man-power as well. Greedy little environmentalists with lib-commie tendencies that only care if it interferes with the mating habits of some spring beetle, and even then, it needs to come with an acronymn that would look cool on a bumper sticker on the back of your prius.
Here's a little idea for you- why dont you enlist, or join the federal government, and then take in the complete understanding of the word "shoe string". Then you will have additional support and blame for why the republicans are terrible as well as enough fodder to convince yourself that another party could do better.
The reality here is that the citizens of the USA are NOT committed to themselves as a nation, but themselves as a consumer- liberal environmentalists not excluded.
I guess all they needed was an acronymn and something that could build enough red tape to make it more profitable for the bureacrats.
Good for you. Double the cost of jet fuel while you're at it, please? Then we can blame anything that moves for the sluggish world wide economy when you are all done hugging trees.
Their problem is that they dont know what to do- this is such a hot and competitive market right now, how do you justify a proce drop without contemplating that your competitor will do the same? I think they feel the market response with these comments and measure both responses (consumer and competitor) to determine what the timing is right now.
He said *hughn hughn ha* "Pot" *hughn hughn ha* like over an over *juh hahahahah*!
I have never bought a PC that didnt have a paper representation of the EULA enclosed in the box.
Wasn't this the case as well here?
If it was not provided, Gateway should get the fault since PC manufacturers like to wave this under our noses.
Your two examples are the most expensive brands available. Don't give me the apples to apples horsecrap either. Go hug a tree.
You almost had a point until you went liberal and started name-calling.
Why does anyone care?
This just in: More FUD. Steve Jobs admits he has no idea what to do next, makes contradictory statements that have nothing in content but are highly subjective to interpretive conspiracists.
One source is quoted as saying "Steve then turned and looked at his handlers and said 'Can you believe these Apple people? They're so stupid that they'll buy anything. Hey Tom! Green light on the iPOD Pet Rock'
In other news, Jobs, announced a new product call the iRock, a pet rock that sits on your desk and can play iTunes....
Hey Boss- I need this phone so that I can connect with my customers more closely.
You have no idea what you are talking about. The only thing the French Resistance did well was help smuggle downed US airman back out of France. My grandfather told me that the only reason there was a French Resistance was because they tried to play kiss ass with Hitler - and they were rewarded by being invaded. He's fond of saying "all 3 times that I had to bail out over Germany (he was a tailgunner) I was more than fortunate to hide in the barn with all the brave Frenchmen who were also hiding in there."
The only reason they smuggled the US soldiers back out, he maintains, was because they were incapable of saving themselves.
Tell you what- upload the data to a website and lets confirm the hearsay on your trip from MA to TX.
Oh thats right! You were just taling because you knew no one would be able to check on your information.
I was at least willing to argue my point, and as you can see I may be a little bit off in my data, I am still more closer to the truth than you are.
The thing is, my knowledge comes from actual experience- that is, manufacturer experience from the years 2001 - 2003. The latest Hybrid improvements, such as warranties for 8 years now, is about the only thing I may have been wrong about.
I cite the volumes of complaints on people not getting MPG promised as my data for proof.
I also cite the experience I had handling complaints and field testing as well as submitting the reccomendation for driver education courses by TMS to combat this problem.
I worked for a dealership that sold more Prius's in the United States than any other. You can go ahead with your pop-culture assessment which is based on your 25 man Prius club, plus your single variable day to day driving experience.
I on the other hand had a large volume of data feedback, factory response, and internal conversations that your public mouth would never be privy to.
I enjoy the name calling - its where most people go when they have lost their ability to reason and debate, as do most who have liberal minds.
Late response on this but in fact- the training from TMS (Toyota Motor Sales for people who have never worked there) states:
"If you touch one of those exposed cables and a live current rolls through, the current will find the weakest joint and explode it. You will likely lose an arm in addition to being severely electrocuted."
I remember this vividly but it is good to know that EMS training is now occuring on this. I used to always wonder how emergency response teams would know any better.
I look at this arguement the same way I look back at the recent discussion on Hybrids and how great they are.
Any time a bunch of know it alls get in a room there will never be an agreement.
Add the fact that a majority of the people on the soapbox are activists who simply want socialism (i.e. everything is free and theft is only wrong if you are stealing from someone less fortunate than you)
And what you come up with is a bunch of half-wits claiming intellectual superiority and factual representation, whcih always ends with name calling and insults (again- see my posts in the most recent hybrid vehicle discussion).
Smirk and walk away I say- enlightenment is an individual occasion and is subject to the depth of one's understanding of reality.
In the meantime- flame on liberals!!!!!!!
TWO WORDS FOR YOU:
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From the bottom up:
Is there a recycling plan in place for nickel-metal hydride batteries?
Toyota has a comprehensive battery recycling program in place and has been recycling nickel-metal hydride batteries since the RAV4 Electric Vehicle was introduced in 1998. Every part of the battery, from the precious metals to the plastic, plates, steel case and the wiring, is recycled. To ensure that batteries come back to Toyota, each battery has a phone number on it to call for recycling information and dealers are paid a $200 "bounty" for each battery.
Uh yeah. And then what? Just because they say its there doesn't mean it exists. The reality check is on you- I know for a fact that there will be piles of this just sitting around. The entire reason they discontinued the Rav4 is because they felt that it cost too much money to produce this vehicle and it was centered entirely around the batteries you quote.
Steep value in 6? I sure can being that car manufacturers innovate every 5 years, and the technology gets better. So you are trying to tell me that you want a shelf life 7 yr hybrid battery in a car with 100k + miles? Who would buy that? Where would you find a vehicle marketplace for that product? Granted I am not speaking to the person who drives 8k or less a year in miles, but a majority of drivers are in the 12-18k miles per year. So yes, I can prove this given the out-mode model, the battery expiration date of year 7, and the driver depreciation rate per mile.
Thanks for agreeing with #3
#2- All batteries are toxic. Its a high concentration of chemicals- and if it isnt, then why dont you plant one in your vegetable garden and feed yourself for a year on the plants you grow there (if they grow at all).
#1 on miles- I held back one fact. The original prius was designed on a maximum speed to efficiency of 55 mph ( I think it was something like 55.8 but I am not exactly sure what tenths it was). The recent prius was designed in much the same manner. The highest rate of efficiency was found at 30-40 mph, and the cliff of efficiency declined for every mile above that. Freeway speeds such as 70mph will IN FACT put you into the SUV mpg territory. And that is a single person no load condition. Load 4 passengers and all their gear for a 4 day weekend- and you are in fact at SUV MPG.
I used to be the Customer Relationship Manager at a Toytota dealership- I was happy enough to have a job given that I graduated college just as the bubble burst out here in Silicon Valley.
Here are a few things that I have always known about Hybrids:
#1 The best milage comes from the most conservative driving.
#2 The batteries are more toxic than those in a normal car- and with each hybrid carrying between 5 and 7 of those batteries, they are not better for the environment.
#3 The total energy used to manufacter a hybrid vehicle is higher than what it is for a regular vehilce of same size.
#4 The depreciation rate is held up by popular opinion. This is true in all vehicles, but the steep cliff at year 6 is going to make most people unhappy, and the battery replacement at year 8 will be a very large cost to shoulder and may drive many people out of this market all togeather.
#5 There is currently no plan for the recycling of these batteries.
Most hybrids I see on the freeway are exceeding 70mph and are changing lanes frequently.
What is on the window is irrelevant given the way that most people here in the US jump in their car and blindly drive these cars with the pedal on the floor.
I'm sick of international people who use the word "American" to typify a country and cultural without considering that in fact they just characterized an entire geographic area with flame.
If I am incorrect to assume that you are from outside a place, which I can only guess is the United States of America due to your vague off-topic tirade, then:
FIRST: I owe you an apology for assuming that you arent from here. Threats like these either come from foreign governments or aspiring socialists.
SECOND: If you are a citizen, there are many places you can move to after you renounce your citizenship- which I encourage you to do ASAP. There is Canada and Venezuela if you don't want to travel too far- please note that these are both good choices for socialists and liberals alike.
In closing I would like to remind you that despite your cry for improvements, you have neglected your self imposed responsibility by not educating yourself on the finer points of education. First and foremost, you are not only speaking out of turn but severely off topic and in a secular forum. But secondly, you seem to have a contextual impression that everything is related to everything else, and there are no singular independences at work in the world that we live in.
Blame yourself for your own short-comings because there is not a single government (not even North Korea) that can compensate for a low investment in due dilligence that has fed your unusually low self esteem.
In short, you sir go fuck yourself, and I hope to God that there is a bus out there with your name on it waiting for that fateful day when you step off the curb without looking and runs you over.
God Bless America and all the legal citizens who belong here.