I think the difference to a normal group is that an informal discussion in a group is more the ideas behind the topics, you can't just 'copy & paste' other peoples words. Depending of the set up of the group, lazy students could not be members, but plagiarise other students work. Couple that with the fact there are 146 members, which is much larger then any 'real' group might be, and I can see why they might have a problem.
Having said that, expulsion & other measures seem overkill, a review of policy and discussion with students would make much more sense. --- I think the method in my madness is a mad method ---
How many pirates actually want vista? I know people hardly go about saying "Ho Ho, I've stolen MS latest OS" to strangers, but I haven't really heard much about vista pirating. I've have heard a lot about lack of game support etc, which I would have thought would discourage many would-be-pirates, Not to mention you seem to need fairly new hardware which may limit some. Is there actually going to be a large number of people who want to pirate it? --- I think the method in my madness is a mad method ---
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If you have actual ideas for the GIMP UI go mention them at http://gimp-brainstorm.blogspot.com/ rather then just complaining here. They are aware the UI is generally disliked, they just need the best ideas of how to change it. --- Did the Ancient Egyptians play stone, papyrus, scimitar? ---
You'd have thought they could safely assume that Linux users could work a zip/rar/whatever file though...
I'd heard the main thing the software did was add the files to your iTunes/Windows media player libraries. A nice idea addition, although again Linux users can probably work out how to add things manually.
Overall my view is that its a massive shame this isn't available in the UK yet.. --- Crossing mismanaged programming with informal English can result in a declaration of disarray ---
Higher quality mov video here(direct link) if you're interested. (Or you know,if you just want to completely hose their server...) --- Contronyms: for people who are chuffed by antonyms ---
I'm not entirely sure I understand your comment...
Is it like when you go to the zoo to see a particular animal and then that isn't there because a thief-man stole it. So then you're forced to track down this man using the skills you learnt in boy-scouts, and when you do you find the animal so take it back to the zoo, only they don't give you a reward or anything so you never go back ever again?
Is that right? --- If a picture is worth a thousand words my dissertation is going to be a dodle ---
>helpful after waking up with a dislocated leg when I was younger
Do you sleep-exercise or have a particularly vicious spouse or something? I'm curious to how that happened...
Disney hasn't been capitalist (in the sense of participating in a free market economy) since they bought the Sonny Bono Copyright Term Extension Act in 1998, and probably weren't before then.
It was well before that I believe. Due to their power/influence/money, every time their cash-creating Mouse has been about to leave copyright, the terms and length of copyright get extended. In the past 40 years this has happened about 11 different times. It's said if the same laws were applied retrospectively, the US government wouldn't have been allowed to use the name and image of Uncle Sam.
As other people have said in this thread, there are numerous lawsuits about them stealing ideas, and most of their early work is based on public domain fairy tales. Other then "Our company would die if we didn't have exclusive rights to re-release all our old films in loads of different formats and old toys in many ways" I can't personally see any reason why their copyright should be kept. --- I often find the word lethologica on the tip of my tongue... ---
Don't know how well this could work, but you could try spoofing an e-mail or faking a phone call or letter from a Anti-Piracy Organisation or just from Microsoft themselves. Give them the impression that someone official will be conducting a 'regular' random check on their software licences, and the installing question will probably go away.
Of course another insane idea might be to install the software but add a virus to the mix. Then when it deletes and messes up everything, blame the pirated software. I'd guess that'd change company policy....
Of course, making your (and the laws) position known, is a far better plan. If your boss asked you to kill someone, or take drugs or whatever your wouldn't, this shouldn't be any different. --- Surly the amount of room it takes to swing a cat is highly variable based on the size of the cat, the length of your arms and whether you swing it by its paws or tail... ---
Whilst that might solve that problem, it creates a whole lot more. This article details some of the complications that the physics of zero gravity might bring. --- My habit of ending sentences with prepositions is over. ---
Does this mean that Kaleidescape can rip dvds to a server, sell us products that do the same or that we ourselves can? This paragraph:
Because of this ruling, the Judge did not have to get into copyright issues, so the Kaleidescape ruling has no copyright implications. It is not a statement on the legality of ripping DVDs.
suggests that it applies only to them. Or have I missed (or missread) something? --- How exactly did the butcher baker and the candlestick maker end up in a tub together? ---
Other then the reason someone mentioned above, of 'buying votes' there is also case for bias. I'm not sure how much it would effect general workplaces, the rate of apathy in this country means I don't think that many people would care, but certain career paths, and voters for certain strong view parties might have problems. I don't recall all the details, but there was a case a while back of parents complaining about a teacher because he was fund-raising for the BNP. Similarly police officers would face scrutiny, and there would be loads of problems if they were found to have a strong BNP side. Whist open voting does allow for less chance to fake voting, it also takes away a key part of democracy; that of allowing to vote for who you want with no repercussions. --- This signiture is remarkably specious ---
I'm in a similar position, not actually sure where mine is to be honest...
I'm sceptical you'll get anything great though, without an internet connection or Wii like control, what -can- be done with it? --- That surgeon is a man after my own heart ---
Historically sure, Windows entire position is built on the fact that they made a interface usable by almost anyone. My question is more, is it really any better designed for the computer illiterate now, compared to the other OS's? I find it hard to use a Mac myself, but that's more to do with me being very used to windows then any problem with the Mac. New users wouldn't have that problem so might find it easier. Just because Windows started off designing for the computer illiterate doesn't mean they still do, or that another OS doesn't do it better.
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Windows is designed to cater for the computer illiterate.
How much is this actually true? Every OS needs some getting used to and if you've never used a computer before, using Linux shouldn't be any harder then using windows. --- If a picture is worth a thousand words my dissertation is going to be a dodle ---
>The internet is magic. Just like television, microwave ovens, and air conditioning.
Yes but I know people like that, and they keep setting my computer of fire yelling "Kill the witchcraft" --- That surgeon is a man after my own heart ---
> That some stupid politician doesn't know, or feels some need to create a definition, is utterly pathetic.
Its not just pathetic, its utterly embarrassing. If you're regulating something it would be nice if you have some idea of what that thing is. Saying stuff like: "I just the other day got... an Internet was sent by my staff at 10 o'clock in the morning on Friday, I got it yesterday. Why? Because it got tangled up with all these things going on the Internet commercially." does not exactly inspire confidence that he knows what he's regulating.
However I think he's far less unusual then you suggest. You might be right that most people have heard of the internet, but I'd guess loads don't really know what it actually is or how it would work. Try asking a couple of non-geeky people you know to explain how they think the internet works. My Mother who has been using e-mail and the web for quite some time, still doens't really understand the difference between the internet, Google and the browser. She didn't even realise there was a difference for many years. When I tried to introduce her to firefox she thought it was a different 'internet' because I didn't have google as the homepage (which is when I tried to explain google is a website, not the web. She didn't get it). Just because people have heard of or use the internet doesn't mean they actually know what it is, how it works, or anything other then how they access it. --- How exactly do rats desert a sinking ship? ---
> The Mom Test almost never fails me when it comes to cultural phenomena.
That's pretty much the ultimate measure, brand recognition by people almost totally unknowledgeable about the field the brand is in. When people who don't really understand the idea of the web or internet but know they need to 'Google' something, you know your name can hardly get any bigger.
In the same way that Mp3's is the only music format, iPod the only music player, MySpace the only social networking site and Photoshop the only image editor; YouTube is the only video site. It'll take a long while or something very big to change that. (If it does at all, can't think of many brands that broke that barrier and haven't stayed top in their field.)
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Whilst that describes the physicality of the internet it doesn't do so well making people understand how there are things on the internet. --- I often find the word lethologica on the tip of my tounge... ---
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if MacBooks have copy-protecion now, does this mean I'll no longer be able to copy and upload them to Pirate Bay?
I think the difference to a normal group is that an informal discussion in a group is more the ideas behind the topics, you can't just 'copy & paste' other peoples words. Depending of the set up of the group, lazy students could not be members, but plagiarise other students work. Couple that with the fact there are 146 members, which is much larger then any 'real' group might be, and I can see why they might have a problem. Having said that, expulsion & other measures seem overkill, a review of policy and discussion with students would make much more sense.
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I think the method in my madness is a mad method
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What if sony were to slap a blu-ray player on it?
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How many pirates actually want vista? I know people hardly go about saying "Ho Ho, I've stolen MS latest OS" to strangers, but I haven't really heard much about vista pirating. I've have heard a lot about lack of game support etc, which I would have thought would discourage many would-be-pirates, Not to mention you seem to need fairly new hardware which may limit some. Is there actually going to be a large number of people who want to pirate it?
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I think the method in my madness is a mad method
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If you have actual ideas for the GIMP UI go mention them at http://gimp-brainstorm.blogspot.com/ rather then just complaining here. They are aware the UI is generally disliked, they just need the best ideas of how to change it.
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Did the Ancient Egyptians play stone, papyrus, scimitar?
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You'd have thought they could safely assume that Linux users could work a zip/rar/whatever file though...
I'd heard the main thing the software did was add the files to your iTunes/Windows media player libraries. A nice idea addition, although again Linux users can probably work out how to add things manually.
Overall my view is that its a massive shame this isn't available in the UK yet..
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Crossing mismanaged programming with informal English can result in a declaration of disarray
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Video on their website seems to show it better.
Higher quality mov video here(direct link) if you're interested. (Or you know,if you just want to completely hose their server...)
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Contronyms: for people who are chuffed by antonyms
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I'm not entirely sure I understand your comment...
Is it like when you go to the zoo to see a particular animal and then that isn't there because a thief-man stole it. So then you're forced to track down this man using the skills you learnt in boy-scouts, and when you do you find the animal so take it back to the zoo, only they don't give you a reward or anything so you never go back ever again?
Is that right?
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If a picture is worth a thousand words my dissertation is going to be a dodle
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>helpful after waking up with a dislocated leg when I was younger Do you sleep-exercise or have a particularly vicious spouse or something? I'm curious to how that happened...
Watch the video... its clearly fake 'joke' teeth. Why they used that I don't know....
As other people have said in this thread, there are numerous lawsuits about them stealing ideas, and most of their early work is based on public domain fairy tales. Other then "Our company would die if we didn't have exclusive rights to re-release all our old films in loads of different formats and old toys in many ways" I can't personally see any reason why their copyright should be kept.
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I often find the word lethologica on the tip of my tongue...
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Don't know how well this could work, but you could try spoofing an e-mail or faking a phone call or letter from a Anti-Piracy Organisation or just from Microsoft themselves. Give them the impression that someone official will be conducting a 'regular' random check on their software licences, and the installing question will probably go away.
Of course another insane idea might be to install the software but add a virus to the mix. Then when it deletes and messes up everything, blame the pirated software. I'd guess that'd change company policy....
Of course, making your (and the laws) position known, is a far better plan. If your boss asked you to kill someone, or take drugs or whatever your wouldn't, this shouldn't be any different.
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Surly the amount of room it takes to swing a cat is highly variable based on the size of the cat, the length of your arms and whether you swing it by its paws or tail...
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Whilst that might solve that problem, it creates a whole lot more. This article details some of the complications that the physics of zero gravity might bring.
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My habit of ending sentences with prepositions is over.
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This is slashdot. I think the full disclosure is only needed if you like sony.
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How exactly do rats desert a sinking ship?
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How exactly did the butcher baker and the candlestick maker end up in a tub together?
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Other then the reason someone mentioned above, of 'buying votes' there is also case for bias. I'm not sure how much it would effect general workplaces, the rate of apathy in this country means I don't think that many people would care, but certain career paths, and voters for certain strong view parties might have problems.
I don't recall all the details, but there was a case a while back of parents complaining about a teacher because he was fund-raising for the BNP. Similarly police officers would face scrutiny, and there would be loads of problems if they were found to have a strong BNP side. Whist open voting does allow for less chance to fake voting, it also takes away a key part of democracy; that of allowing to vote for who you want with no repercussions.
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This signiture is remarkably specious
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And yet again poor old linux if left alone in the corner with only a lute for company..
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At what point can you call a spade a shovel?
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I'm in a similar position, not actually sure where mine is to be honest...
I'm sceptical you'll get anything great though, without an internet connection or Wii like control, what -can- be done with it?
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That surgeon is a man after my own heart
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Historically sure, Windows entire position is built on the fact that they made a interface usable by almost anyone.
My question is more, is it really any better designed for the computer illiterate now, compared to the other OS's? I find it hard to use a Mac myself, but that's more to do with me being very used to windows then any problem with the Mac. New users wouldn't have that problem so might find it easier. Just because Windows started off designing for the computer illiterate doesn't mean they still do, or that another OS doesn't do it better.
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Contronyms: for people who sanction opposites
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If a picture is worth a thousand words my dissertation is going to be a dodle
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>The internet is magic. Just like television, microwave ovens, and air conditioning. Yes but I know people like that, and they keep setting my computer of fire yelling "Kill the witchcraft"
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That surgeon is a man after my own heart
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> That some stupid politician doesn't know, or feels some need to create a definition, is utterly pathetic.
Its not just pathetic, its utterly embarrassing. If you're regulating something it would be nice if you have some idea of what that thing is. Saying stuff like:
"I just the other day got... an Internet was sent by my staff at 10 o'clock in the morning on Friday, I got it yesterday. Why? Because it got tangled up with all these things going on the Internet commercially."
does not exactly inspire confidence that he knows what he's regulating.
However I think he's far less unusual then you suggest. You might be right that most people have heard of the internet, but I'd guess loads don't really know what it actually is or how it would work. Try asking a couple of non-geeky people you know to explain how they think the internet works. My Mother who has been using e-mail and the web for quite some time, still doens't really understand the difference between the internet, Google and the browser. She didn't even realise there was a difference for many years. When I tried to introduce her to firefox she thought it was a different 'internet' because I didn't have google as the homepage (which is when I tried to explain google is a website, not the web. She didn't get it). Just because people have heard of or use the internet doesn't mean they actually know what it is, how it works, or anything other then how they access it.
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How exactly do rats desert a sinking ship?
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> The Mom Test almost never fails me when it comes to cultural phenomena.
That's pretty much the ultimate measure, brand recognition by people almost totally unknowledgeable about the field the brand is in. When people who don't really understand the idea of the web or internet but know they need to 'Google' something, you know your name can hardly get any bigger.
In the same way that Mp3's is the only music format, iPod the only music player, MySpace the only social networking site and Photoshop the only image editor; YouTube is the only video site. It'll take a long while or something very big to change that. (If it does at all, can't think of many brands that broke that barrier and haven't stayed top in their field.)
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This signature is remarkably specious
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Whilst that describes the physicality of the internet it doesn't do so well making people understand how there are things on the internet.
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I often find the word lethologica on the tip of my tounge...
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