I didn't have enough Facebook friends who wanted to get really, really good at MobWars, so in my initial excitement I forgot to read Facebook's TOS & accidentally found myself with a dozen Facebook accounts.
Business was kind of slow that summer so I ended up writing a set of Perl modules that took care of the tedious portion of logging in to Facebook, bypassing the HTTPS redirect, logging in to MobWars, logging each character's stats, checking 'stamina' to see if the character had enough points to complete a higher-level mission, & so forth.
One of the accounts was for a Sir Ping Merlot, & I used a picture of my stuffed plush duck as Ping's profile picture. ( That account is the only one still open. After I read Facebook's Terms of Service I discovered that what I was doing was expressly prohibited, so I closed all the other MobWars character accounts except for Ping. )
The Perl modules that automated MobWars ran for about two weeks though, before I de-activated them. At the time, somewhere in New York a stuffed duck was knocking over a liquor store every seventeen minutes, on average. My mob of twelve became wealthy this way & as a reward, after the first week I bought everybody a HumVee with the Turret Option & even had enough to mount a MiniGun in each Hummer.
I was sad to deactivate my Facebook mob, because they were super awesome gamers with absolutely relentless enthusiasm. I kept Ping Merlot's account on Facebook open though because he was the most entertaining of all the characters.
I didn't log in as Ping after that for almost two years. When I finally did log in to Ping's account, I was pleasantly surprised to see that he had over two-hundred & fifty friend requests pending, and lo & behold 99% of them were Italian Facebook users.
So that worked out well. When I log in as Ping I get to see the Italian Facebook, which is a payoff I guess I hadn't anticipated when I started that project. I suppose some people might criticize me for having a stuffed plush duck named Ping running the last vestiges of a once-promising organized crime ring in the Italian Facebook, because technically I shouldn't have two accounts.
But do you know what I would say to those people?
I would say, "Hello! Would you like to join Ping Merlot's mob in MobWars? Or perhaps a round of Bejewelled Blitz? Or, hey, buddy... did you know I have a private Minecraft server that only me & Zuckerberg have admin to?"
My optical drive crapped out on me a couple months ago so I have unfortunately not been able to install NetBSD on my toaster oven, which doesn't have a coreboot/openbios compatible EEPROM so I can't even do a PXE network install.
That's not NetBSD's fault obviously. But since I can't complete that project, that means I have to use my OpenBSD systems to make breakfast.
I'm sure if _The Linux Journal_ was a selector, that the OpenBSD package repositories & mirrors are likewise tripwired.
And even if they aren't, well. The NSA would hardly overlook the OpenBSD community for possible deviants, especially considering the time Theo de Raadt started a food fight in the company cafeteria with some of the fine representatives of DARPA. I'm *pretty* sure that the NSA heard about that.
So instead of monkeying around at monkey.org or whatever, I'm trying to come up with some catchy OpenBSD slogans or whatever. Hopefully that will make us seem a little bit less... "Linux Journal"-esque, & you know. More appealing to stay-at-home dads & soccer moms.
OpenBSD: Maybe not portable enough to install on your toaster oven, but portable enough.
OpenBSD: Paranoid by default: paranoid by choice.
OpenBSD: the choice of security-conscious systems administrators worldwide.
I must also be extremely extremist, unlike all o' these *amateur* milquetoast extremists you see around these days.
I say "Debian GNU/Linux" out loud even.
I would ask somebody "Greetings & Salutations, friend. How is that MIPS/ARM cross-compilation of the GNU/hurd kernel & toolchain coming along?"
This is of course to appease Her Majesty "savannah", which is either extremely gnu or extremely non-gnu of me.
Basically, I guess I'm just a hipster. Perhaps a radical, extremist hipster who deserves to be on all these watch lists, but pretty much just a hipster.
( Also, to pre-emptively appease RMS, I make a pan flute burnt offering, hopefully before he can play it. )
I use OpenBSD & Debian GNU/Linux primarily, which I'm *positive* triggers some kind of NSA monitoring trope whenever I use apt-get to install GPG or OpenBSD's pkg_add to install, well; *any* OpenBSD package is probably viewed as "suspicious".
Since I use Debian sometimes, I also *sigh* hereby admit that I've occasionally frequented _The Linux Journal_, & I enjoy their content immensely.
I don't *always* go there to learn how to enable full-disk encryption or how to create "burner" phones by running SIP/VoIP software in a _qemu_ virtual machine, but I'm sure I've bumped into black-flagged projects & probably, in some kind of desperate, bumbling attempt at following an article about $PRIVACY::$ANONYMITY Perl modules, well, you can probably guess.
I admit it. I've accessed cryptographic software directly from the Comprehensive Perl Archive Network, on more than one occasion.
I've succombed to kitten huffing.
I keep a three-ring binder filled with barrettes from females I've encountered over the years as a kind of "keepsake" album.
And once I shot some racy digital photographs with a woman I was dating, & I couldn't decide whether or not 2048-bit, 4096-bit, or 8192-bit encryption was strong enough to protect the images from being leaked into the internet. So I deleted them.
So, I admit it. I'm a Linux & OpenBSD user that has rummaged through countless software repositories on all seven continents over the course of several decades. I read _The Linux Journal_ & I like it.
The way I figure it, that probably puts me into some kind of watch-list bonus round, or some kind of keyword-trigger-list Hot 100 chart on the NSA's giant wall of pulsating 256" plasma displays.
I don't usually talk about it, & hell, I haven't even been over here to SlashDot for quite some time, but I figure, if TrollHax0r, Sarcasta, CmdrTaco, Bruce Perens & friends are still around, they can vouch for the fact that I am guilty as charged on all counts.
Happened to me last month or two ago. I just wrote an article for Slashdot about my experience, but after trying to submit it now, I think I'm gonna publish it on Reddit. No offense, it's just Really Long & has a Great Deal of Unicode, which is necessary when you get surrounded by 12 cops on Nicollet Mall & are approached by the Forensics Lady putting on some Rubber Gloves for the next part of attempting to hassle me for not being a criminal but still having the nerve to have long hair & Bluetooth.
I hate how litigious the United States has become, but since class-action lawsuits are the only real tool consumers have left to protect themselves from this sort of thing, I'm reluctantly in agreement with your sentiments here.
I agree - we need to send a message to Sony/BMG Music that treating their customers like criminals is unacceptable, and make it expensive enough of a lesson that other companies considering similar tactics are encouraged to evaluate their options more carefully.
I think this just highlights the hypocritical nature of the antivirus vendors; by measuring the time between the Mark Russinovich post unveiling the rootkit on October 31, and the subsequent addition of the rootkit's signature to the various antivirus vendor's products, you can draw some fairly interesting conclusions about the relationships between antivirus companies, consumers, virus/malware authors, and software companies (or in Sony's case, companies offering products that happen to contain additional software).
F-Secure - Nov 1st, 2005
Symantec - November 8, 2005: Renamed to SecurityRisk.First4DRM from SecurityRisk.Aries
November 11, 2005: Added link to removal tool.
Computer Associates - listed, unknown date.
Kapersky - Nov 2, 2005
It's interesting how some of the vendors are listing information about the rootkit, but see uninterested in adding a signature, claiming that it's not really a virus (which is true) because it doesn't self-replicate. That's fine, I guess, because if they started detecting rootkits, they'd have a lot more work to do, but I think it's kind of shortsighted of them to think that people won't get angry that they paid for a $40/year subscription for a product that doesn't detect when their system gets totally rooted.
(I'm always tempted to spell it r00tk1t, but I'm trying to act more mature these days...)
I'm not really a political or litigious person by nature, but as I've aged, I've come to this somewhat depressing conclusion; occasionally, the only way to effect change in this world is to exact some kind of financial cost on those who disregard the rights of their fellow human beings.
David Brancaccio (from public radio's Marketplace) wrote a quite entertaining book that deals with the concept of socially responsible investing, and asks the question of whether or not applying fuzzy concepts of "good " and "evil" to publicly traded companies makes any kind of sense.
He was sort of sarcastic about it, and had a tendency to make fun of new-age hippies showing at the annual shareholder's meeting in Montana with their 100% natural non-bleached cotton moccasins, and painfully detailed dietary requirements, but overall it was funny, and it made an otherwise dry subject a lot more palatable. Check it out if you're sick of O'Reilly books - it was a good companion on the road last summer.
Hopefully, we will continue to develop more accurate and effective ways to evaluate companies and maybe even their corresponding Good:Evil ratios in the future; maybe then companies guilty of human rights violations or severe pollution disasters will feel a direct effect on their bottom line.
I couldn't agree more. Giving Real the opportunity to exploit our hard-won Open Source formats to further gain market share strikes me as a horrible decision.
As many of you no doubt know, SCO friend Darl McBride was found dead in his home today. Initial police reports hinted he had committed suicide by hanging himself.
I know I speak for many Slashdot viewers when I say that Darl McBride will be missed. Not only did he run SCO, he also wrote Linux, a wonderful extension of the original Slashcode that powers www.slashdot.org itself.
Words can't express the grieving in the geek community over this senseless loss. Such sorrow hasn't been since since Buffy the Vampire Slayer stopped being syndicated.
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While I like the idea of having them put the bonuses back into the business, I know that personally I'd resent the fact that I wasn't allowed to spend the money the way I would choose if it was a no-strings-attached gift rather than a corporate write-off.
I think if done correctly, many of the employees who were recipients of the bonus would be motivated to put extra energy and time into the business, so perhaps psychologically both goals could be accomplished without alienating anyone.
Maybe you want Mozilla to remain in the 0.02% percentile, but the rest of us--that means, the real computing world, not your little IRC Linux buddies--use programs with friendly names.
Wow, you're ignorant of both my thoughts and attitudes. I don't use Linux and I sure as hell don't use IRC, but I do use Mozilla every day, and I encourage people to use alternative browsers whenever it's appropriate. I work with and support 150 end-users of real-world software, so I think I have a general understanding of what they expect from software.
Why? It says a lot about the program and its developers.
If they cared about "branding" in the first place, they would have chosen a better name and logo the first time around. Not waited until they'd completely lost the browser wars, and then tried to resuscitate a corpse of a project (in terms of market share, not code quality) by relying on late 1990's marketroid-isms.
Get off your high-horse. You're completely retarded.
Screw you. Ad hominem attacks on me and juvenile name calling only serve to support my point that you're a bitch.
Yeah, that'll reel in the users for a product we're trying to replace IE with.
This only serves to show how out of touch you are with the "real world." Mozilla and Netscape lost. Get over it.
According to you, it doesn't matter! People using it already know how to pronounce it! Wowee!
Like I said, I use Mozilla every day, and I didn't know how to pronounce it until the kind gentlemen in this thread pointed it out.
What does the fact that everyday users don't even know how to pronounce it tell you about the Mozilla dev team? Like I said, if they actually gave a rat's ass they would have chosen more appropriately when they had a chance.
If I have to read another 1999-era Red Herring/Business 2.0/dot bomb article about how "Netscape Navigator's success was due in large part to it's strong branding effort blah blah blah" I think I'll go freaking nutzo.
Who gives a crap whether or not an open source project has a good "brand"? It's not like people are trying to sell it. The ones who care, know about it already and aren't going to care whether or not it's a catchy name.
The only thing wrong with Mozilla is that people don't know how to pronounce it. Is it like Mod-zilla rhymes with Godzilla, or is it more like Mozzerella, or is it something else entirely?
There are certain types of plots that would benefit greatly from having a colour display, such as fractal image generators, fuild dynamics plots, and even topographic-style mapping algorithms.
I guess I just don't understand why HP/Compaq PocketPC's have been shipping with gorgeous transreflective displays for years, why they haven't shipped a high-end calculator for the real math geeks.
I suppose they think all of us just carry around a laptop with Mathematica instead.
Honestly, IPsec is secure enough. Make sure you have it set up by someone who has considerable field experience, and make sure your end-point devices are reasonably secure (i.e. patches are applied to the VPN gateway in a regular and consistent manner, remote clients running Windows presumably have patches, antivirus, and software installation policies installed).
I don't really understand why you're nervous about going with a VPN. There are really no other "cutting-edge" solutions available that have been reliably tested, at this point.
VPN's may not be cutting-edge, but at least they have some kind of track record and have the advantage of being stable enough that you can deploy an application without taking unnecessary risks.
I would follow this up with some relevant URLs but my girlfriend is freaking out because there's a spider on the ceiling and she's too chicken to swat at it with a broom. Meh.
Man, if your time isn't valuable enough that $399 doesn't seem entirely reasonable to have someone install, configure, and lock down the OS on what is probably $250 worth of hardware, you're not valuing yourself highly enough.
The Windows client software alone would be worth it, to me. Most of my client's workstations don't get backed up nearly often enough.
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I didn't have enough Facebook friends who wanted to get really, really good at MobWars, so in my initial excitement I forgot to read Facebook's TOS & accidentally found myself with a dozen Facebook accounts.
Business was kind of slow that summer so I ended up writing a set of Perl modules that took care of the tedious portion of logging in to Facebook, bypassing the HTTPS redirect, logging in to MobWars, logging each character's stats, checking 'stamina' to see if the character had enough points to complete a higher-level mission, & so forth.
One of the accounts was for a Sir Ping Merlot, & I used a picture of my stuffed plush duck as Ping's profile picture. ( That account is the only one still open. After I read Facebook's Terms of Service I discovered that what I was doing was expressly prohibited, so I closed all the other MobWars character accounts except for Ping. )
The Perl modules that automated MobWars ran for about two weeks though, before I de-activated them. At the time, somewhere in New York a stuffed duck was knocking over a liquor store every seventeen minutes, on average. My mob of twelve became wealthy this way & as a reward, after the first week I bought everybody a HumVee with the Turret Option & even had enough to mount a MiniGun in each Hummer.
I was sad to deactivate my Facebook mob, because they were super awesome gamers with absolutely relentless enthusiasm. I kept Ping Merlot's account on Facebook open though because he was the most entertaining of all the characters.
I didn't log in as Ping after that for almost two years. When I finally did log in to Ping's account, I was pleasantly surprised to see that he had over two-hundred & fifty friend requests pending, and lo & behold 99% of them were Italian Facebook users.
So that worked out well. When I log in as Ping I get to see the Italian Facebook, which is a payoff I guess I hadn't anticipated when I started that project. I suppose some people might criticize me for having a stuffed plush duck named Ping running the last vestiges of a once-promising organized crime ring in the Italian Facebook, because technically I shouldn't have two accounts.
But do you know what I would say to those people?
I would say, "Hello! Would you like to join Ping Merlot's mob in MobWars? Or perhaps a round of Bejewelled Blitz? Or, hey, buddy... did you know I have a private Minecraft server that only me & Zuckerberg have admin to?"
That was you?
I never did figure out who hit me on the back with a rock. I *suspected* it was you, JStyle, but then I was like, nah. He's too far away.
Gnome3 has far surpassed my expectations on OpenBSD 5.5.
It is almost, but not quite, entirely unlike Microsoft Windows, in every way.
In fact, this is the last time I will even mention Gnome3 in the same paragraph as Windows. Promise.
>> Cue downmods and comments of "Slashdot has literally become reddit."
You mean, except for the interface. Right?
My optical drive crapped out on me a couple months ago so I have unfortunately not been able to install NetBSD on my toaster oven, which doesn't have a coreboot/openbios compatible EEPROM so I can't even do a PXE network install.
That's not NetBSD's fault obviously. But since I can't complete that project, that means I have to use my OpenBSD systems to make breakfast.
I'm sure if _The Linux Journal_ was a selector, that the OpenBSD package repositories & mirrors are likewise tripwired.
And even if they aren't, well. The NSA would hardly overlook the OpenBSD community for possible deviants, especially considering the time Theo de Raadt started a food fight in the company cafeteria with some of the fine representatives of DARPA. I'm *pretty* sure that the NSA heard about that.
So instead of monkeying around at monkey.org or whatever, I'm trying to come up with some catchy OpenBSD slogans or whatever. Hopefully that will make us seem a little bit less... "Linux Journal"-esque, & you know. More appealing to stay-at-home dads & soccer moms.
OpenBSD: Maybe not portable enough to install on your toaster oven, but portable enough.
OpenBSD: Paranoid by default: paranoid by choice.
OpenBSD: the choice of security-conscious systems administrators worldwide.
I must also be extremely extremist, unlike all o' these *amateur* milquetoast extremists you see around these days.
I say "Debian GNU/Linux" out loud even.
I would ask somebody "Greetings & Salutations, friend. How is that MIPS/ARM cross-compilation of the GNU/hurd kernel & toolchain coming along?"
This is of course to appease Her Majesty "savannah", which is either extremely gnu or extremely non-gnu of me.
Basically, I guess I'm just a hipster. Perhaps a radical, extremist hipster who deserves to be on all these watch lists, but pretty much just a hipster.
( Also, to pre-emptively appease RMS, I make a pan flute burnt offering, hopefully before he can play it. )
Do they really have Linux for your iPod? ( serious )
*ahem*
_I_ have an iPod.
I use OpenBSD & Debian GNU/Linux primarily, which I'm *positive* triggers some kind of NSA monitoring trope whenever I use apt-get to install GPG or OpenBSD's pkg_add to install, well; *any* OpenBSD package is probably viewed as "suspicious".
Since I use Debian sometimes, I also *sigh* hereby admit that I've occasionally frequented _The Linux Journal_, & I enjoy their content immensely.
I don't *always* go there to learn how to enable full-disk encryption or how to create "burner" phones by running SIP/VoIP software in a _qemu_ virtual machine, but I'm sure I've bumped into black-flagged projects & probably, in some kind of desperate, bumbling attempt at following an article about $PRIVACY::$ANONYMITY Perl modules, well, you can probably guess.
I admit it. I've accessed cryptographic software directly from the Comprehensive Perl Archive Network, on more than one occasion.
I've succombed to kitten huffing.
I keep a three-ring binder filled with barrettes from females I've encountered over the years as a kind of "keepsake" album.
And once I shot some racy digital photographs with a woman I was dating, & I couldn't decide whether or not 2048-bit, 4096-bit, or 8192-bit encryption was strong enough to protect the images from being leaked into the internet. So I deleted them.
So, I admit it. I'm a Linux & OpenBSD user that has rummaged through countless software repositories on all seven continents over the course of several decades. I read _The Linux Journal_ & I like it.
The way I figure it, that probably puts me into some kind of watch-list bonus round, or some kind of keyword-trigger-list Hot 100 chart on the NSA's giant wall of pulsating 256" plasma displays.
I don't usually talk about it, & hell, I haven't even been over here to SlashDot for quite some time, but I figure, if TrollHax0r, Sarcasta, CmdrTaco, Bruce Perens & friends are still around, they can vouch for the fact that I am guilty as charged on all counts.
Sincerely,
dragonfly_blue
Happened to me last month or two ago. I just wrote an article for Slashdot about my experience, but after trying to submit it now, I think I'm gonna publish it on Reddit. No offense, it's just Really Long & has a Great Deal of Unicode, which is necessary when you get surrounded by 12 cops on Nicollet Mall & are approached by the Forensics Lady putting on some Rubber Gloves for the next part of attempting to hassle me for not being a criminal but still having the nerve to have long hair & Bluetooth.
Nice sig.
I hate how litigious the United States has become, but since class-action lawsuits are the only real tool consumers have left to protect themselves from this sort of thing, I'm reluctantly in agreement with your sentiments here.
I agree - we need to send a message to Sony/BMG Music that treating their customers like criminals is unacceptable, and make it expensive enough of a lesson that other companies considering similar tactics are encouraged to evaluate their options more carefully.
It's interesting how some of the vendors are listing information about the rootkit, but see uninterested in adding a signature, claiming that it's not really a virus (which is true) because it doesn't self-replicate. That's fine, I guess, because if they started detecting rootkits, they'd have a lot more work to do, but I think it's kind of shortsighted of them to think that people won't get angry that they paid for a $40/year subscription for a product that doesn't detect when their system gets totally rooted.
(I'm always tempted to spell it r00tk1t, but I'm trying to act more mature these days...)
I'm not really a political or litigious person by nature, but as I've aged, I've come to this somewhat depressing conclusion; occasionally, the only way to effect change in this world is to exact some kind of financial cost on those who disregard the rights of their fellow human beings.
David Brancaccio (from public radio's Marketplace) wrote a quite entertaining book that deals with the concept of socially responsible investing, and asks the question of whether or not applying fuzzy concepts of "good " and "evil" to publicly traded companies makes any kind of sense.
He was sort of sarcastic about it, and had a tendency to make fun of new-age hippies showing at the annual shareholder's meeting in Montana with their 100% natural non-bleached cotton moccasins, and painfully detailed dietary requirements, but overall it was funny, and it made an otherwise dry subject a lot more palatable. Check it out if you're sick of O'Reilly books - it was a good companion on the road last summer.
Hopefully, we will continue to develop more accurate and effective ways to evaluate companies and maybe even their corresponding Good:Evil ratios in the future; maybe then companies guilty of human rights violations or severe pollution disasters will feel a direct effect on their bottom line.
I like my women like I like my coffee - tied in a sack and thrown over the back of a donkey.
I couldn't agree more. Giving Real the opportunity to exploit our hard-won Open Source formats to further gain market share strikes me as a horrible decision.
No one ever offers to swap a little toonage.
I think you mean, "toon-tang", in this particular instance.
I know I speak for many Slashdot viewers when I say that Darl McBride will be missed. Not only did he run SCO, he also wrote Linux, a wonderful extension of the original Slashcode that powers www.slashdot.org itself.
Words can't express the grieving in the geek community over this senseless loss. Such sorrow hasn't been since since Buffy the Vampire Slayer stopped being syndicated.
I think if done correctly, many of the employees who were recipients of the bonus would be motivated to put extra energy and time into the business, so perhaps psychologically both goals could be accomplished without alienating anyone.
You sound like John Dvorak or something. ;-)
Wow, you're ignorant of both my thoughts and attitudes. I don't use Linux and I sure as hell don't use IRC, but I do use Mozilla every day, and I encourage people to use alternative browsers whenever it's appropriate. I work with and support 150 end-users of real-world software, so I think I have a general understanding of what they expect from software.
Why? It says a lot about the program and its developers.
If they cared about "branding" in the first place, they would have chosen a better name and logo the first time around. Not waited until they'd completely lost the browser wars, and then tried to resuscitate a corpse of a project (in terms of market share, not code quality) by relying on late 1990's marketroid-isms.
Get off your high-horse. You're completely retarded.
Screw you. Ad hominem attacks on me and juvenile name calling only serve to support my point that you're a bitch.
Yeah, that'll reel in the users for a product we're trying to replace IE with.
This only serves to show how out of touch you are with the "real world." Mozilla and Netscape lost. Get over it.
According to you, it doesn't matter! People using it already know how to pronounce it! Wowee!
Like I said, I use Mozilla every day, and I didn't know how to pronounce it until the kind gentlemen in this thread pointed it out.
What does the fact that everyday users don't even know how to pronounce it tell you about the Mozilla dev team? Like I said, if they actually gave a rat's ass they would have chosen more appropriately when they had a chance.
If I have to read another 1999-era Red Herring/Business 2.0/dot bomb article about how "Netscape Navigator's success was due in large part to it's strong branding effort blah blah blah" I think I'll go freaking nutzo.
Who gives a crap whether or not an open source project has a good "brand"? It's not like people are trying to sell it. The ones who care, know about it already and aren't going to care whether or not it's a catchy name.
The only thing wrong with Mozilla is that people don't know how to pronounce it. Is it like Mod-zilla rhymes with Godzilla, or is it more like Mozzerella, or is it something else entirely?
There are certain types of plots that would benefit greatly from having a colour display, such as fractal image generators, fuild dynamics plots, and even topographic-style mapping algorithms.
I guess I just don't understand why HP/Compaq PocketPC's have been shipping with gorgeous transreflective displays for years, why they haven't shipped a high-end calculator for the real math geeks.
I suppose they think all of us just carry around a laptop with Mathematica instead.
Honestly, IPsec is secure enough. Make sure you have it set up by someone who has considerable field experience, and make sure your end-point devices are reasonably secure (i.e. patches are applied to the VPN gateway in a regular and consistent manner, remote clients running Windows presumably have patches, antivirus, and software installation policies installed).
I don't really understand why you're nervous about going with a VPN. There are really no other "cutting-edge" solutions available that have been reliably tested, at this point.
VPN's may not be cutting-edge, but at least they have some kind of track record and have the advantage of being stable enough that you can deploy an application without taking unnecessary risks.
I would follow this up with some relevant URLs but my girlfriend is freaking out because there's a spider on the ceiling and she's too chicken to swat at it with a broom. Meh.
Man, if your time isn't valuable enough that $399 doesn't seem entirely reasonable to have someone install, configure, and lock down the OS on what is probably $250 worth of hardware, you're not valuing yourself highly enough.
The Windows client software alone would be worth it, to me. Most of my client's workstations don't get backed up nearly often enough.