Wow! What a deal!!
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For the great introductory price of only ONE DOLLAR per CPU HOUR, I can have friends and enemies alike want to COME TO MY HOUSE and SMASH MY COMPUTER to bits with SLEDGEHAMMERS!!
What would happen if they charge more for the more popular songs, and less for other songs that are not as popular?
Every album (CD) has one or two killer songs, with the rest being more or less filler. Using a bit of market research, they could charge more for the top song(s) and less for the filler.
Some people will just want the top songs; and will pay top price. Then there are the band groupies that collect everything that a band ever records.
They could set the prices by the popularity-- just watch the number of downloads of a particular song. The more popular, the more it costs. The less popular, the less it costs. Prices rise and fall on popularity (and, if you get in early, you might get a really popular song cheaply!).
This can be done. It is an alternative to what the RIAA is proposing in this article.
Bill Gates is still a teenager in the global market. He is smart, and powerful, and wealthy. And he has a ton of lawyers. He will learn. It will be no time at all before he has a few key EU politicians in his back pocket, with enough votes to swing things in his favor.
Will he have to pay the fine? Let's see what happens after the lengthy appeal. I'm betting it will either be (a) reduced, or (b) several nations will be getting a lot of free (Microsoft) software (duhhhh....) or (c) both.
It's all a game, and Bill will learn to play it well.
All Hail Emperor Bill!!!
(Exiting tongue-in-cheek mode before I get into foot-up-butt mode).
P.S. If this is ever archived, I hope that in the future when the MicroSoft Secret Police find it they are unable to connect my Account name to my real name. I'll surely be in trouble then!
First, it ups the ante, and makes the distributors of DDoS (would that make them DoDDoSers?) MORE likely to do their evil deeds. (too Batman-ish?? oh well). If I were a DoDDoSer, I would want to come up with newer DDoS attacks just to see what this company can serve up.
Second, and most important-- A DDoS is only triggered from one hacker's machine, but the DDoS is launched from many, many (mostly naive and unsophisticated) user machines, who will have to BEAR THE BRUNT of the counterattack. Granted, this should WAKE THEM UP about the need for SECURITY-- but until that happens, what is the price of the counter-attack?
Ain't that the truth. Sure, money is *nice*-- but most of us would sooner stick out a job that pays less but is very satisfying otherwise, than sticking around a job that pays well but is hell on earth.
There was this story on TV about people who harvest Alaskan King Crabs. They make a fortune-- but they have to go out in very harsh arctic weather; work 16 or more hours a day in rough seas for weeks at a time; and have to stay alert the entire time while they are harvesting (lest they are swept overboard or have a limb removed).
I think your view that IBM is positioning is absolutely correct-- and congrats on being the first to recognize it as such. If Sun works with IBM it will only be because they want to nip this '.NET' thing in the bud.
I've been reading this entire thread, and while the subject of bad tech schools IS a problem, it is not the entire problem.
Even a bad tech school can turn out a good graduate. What makes a good graduate is their commitment and their continuing research and interest in their areas of study (and exploring peripheral related subjects that they are not taught).
The education doesn't end at graduation.
If a student thinks he can make big bucks by attending a few classes and getting by on just passable grades and be done with it (companies will be knocking themselves over to hire them-- ha!) then that student is due for a very painful reality check. Commitment to exploring an ever-changing technology, and a real love of the subject will eventually show (and show UP as 'experience' on the resume) and then the investment in the students education will pay off.
Gamer-only experience applicants need not apply.
So go ahead and mod me down as 'preachy'. The best techies ARE self taught; the tech schools just help them on their way. It is the truth. Deal with it.
Hey, I've said the same thing about this same thread every time it pops up here in/. (which is about every other week).
Who is paying the spammers? Not us, the recipients. SOMEONE out there is hiring spammers to hawk their wares. The sellers pay maybe a few cents for each idiot who responds to the spam. The spammers make money if they get some ridiculous low response rate, like 1 in 1000, or 1 in a million.
So, what to do? GO AFTER THE PEOPLE WHO HIRE THE SPAMMERS!! It's not hard-- follow the trail and get someone to actually BUY the spammed product; AND THEN GO AFTER THOSE SELLERS AND CRUSH THEM! Preferably, the prosecuters should be someone in authority that goes after the sellers; but in a pinch, any hacker with a notion to DDOS a seller will suffice.
So, what does this accomplish? If threatened properly (or even prosecuted) that seller will NEVER hire a spammer again. So what? you say-- the spammer will move on to the next 'innocent' seller. Of course, we *COULD* make a deal with the seller, if he gives us the NAME of the spammer. Then we can REALLY go after the root of the problem-- let your imagination play with that for a while.
All we need is a sufficiently funded, properly equiped task force that follows up on spam (and maybe a lawyer or two thrown in for legal purposes) and finds the spammers through the sellers.
You know, this is a perfect job for those who like to work at home. Buy a spam product, find out the seller, and report that seller to the people who can put the hammer to them.
My first car was a hand-me-down Renault Dauphine, an early 60's model, I think. I had just gotten my drivers license, and my brother gave me the car as he went into the Navy in 1966. It had a few problems-- the distributer cap broke for some reason once; but it drove OK for me and my friends.
It met it's demise one winter in the parking lot of Chicago's Museum of Science and Industry when the heater went out while we were visiting. The windows frosted up faster than we could rub off the ice, and we ended up wrecking it. So much for teen-age driving experience. My dad practically killed me.
If you really, really dig deep, and look at the design specs of both the PCI bus and SBUS, you will find a lot of similarities. The SBUS did preceed the PCI bus by about a year.
Yeah, I live in Hampton Roads. Newport News is practically next door (ok, the city limit is about 300 yards from my house). I applaud their efforts to get out from under the thumb of the evil MicroSoft empire. Go Linux! Go GNU! Go away MicroSoft!! Heh-heh-heh!!!
If they can pull this off, maybe the world won't see them as the profit-mongering 800-pound gorilla monopoly corporation they are. They will be heroes to us working-class.
Unless, of course, they make it proprietary and charge huge license fees.
...that if an elderly educated person said that something in his realm of expertise could be done, he was almost always correct. If an elderly educated person said that something in his area of expertise could not be done, he would most likely be wrong.
Other than Commodore's stupidity, another one of the reasons the Amiga never took off was because of Bill Gates.
Yes, the same ol' Bill Gates of Microsoft.
As I heard the story, the Amiga was in Redmond for scrutiny; but then Bill Gates decided not to develop for it. That decision may have resulted from negotiations with Commodore, who may not have wanted to be exhorted by Microsoft. Of course, Commodore could have also made their decision because they were totally obtuse.
At any rate, *MY* view of Microsoft turned at that point. I used to admire Microsoft as an 'IBM-killer'. After that decision, I held no love for Microsoft.
1) Go after the people who employ spammers. Surely the product they inundate us with leads to real people.
2) Prosecute those people to the full extent of the law. Make examples of the first few thousand.
3) Result-- nobody will hire a spammer, and it GOES AWAY.
End of *MY* business model!
Will Microsoft act like the phone companies?
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You know, where the phone companies sell their (home) customers services to block telemarketers, and then turn around and sell the telemarketers methods on how to get around those blocks?
Perhaps Microsoft will sell Pop-up advertisers a way to get around the new IE pop-up blocking software.
The problem with your premise is that the people KNOW the difference between someone spouting crap and someone who knows what they are talking about. While/. generally has a lower noise to signal ratio, there are still those out there that don't know the difference.
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For the great introductory price of only ONE DOLLAR per CPU HOUR, I can have friends and enemies alike want to COME TO MY HOUSE and SMASH MY COMPUTER to bits with SLEDGEHAMMERS!!
What can be the downside to that?
Sarcasm mode off.
What would happen if they charge more for the more popular songs, and less for other songs that are not as popular?
Every album (CD) has one or two killer songs, with the rest being more or less filler. Using a bit of market research, they could charge more for the top song(s) and less for the filler.
Some people will just want the top songs; and will pay top price. Then there are the band groupies that collect everything that a band ever records.
They could set the prices by the popularity-- just watch the number of downloads of a particular song. The more popular, the more it costs. The less popular, the less it costs. Prices rise and fall on popularity (and, if you get in early, you might get a really popular song cheaply!).
This can be done. It is an alternative to what the RIAA is proposing in this article.
Give him time.
Bill Gates is still a teenager in the global market. He is smart, and powerful, and wealthy. And he has a ton of lawyers. He will learn. It will be no time at all before he has a few key EU politicians in his back pocket, with enough votes to swing things in his favor.
Will he have to pay the fine? Let's see what happens after the lengthy appeal. I'm betting it will either be (a) reduced, or (b) several nations will be getting a lot of free (Microsoft) software (duhhhh....) or (c) both.
It's all a game, and Bill will learn to play it well.
All Hail Emperor Bill!!!
(Exiting tongue-in-cheek mode before I get into foot-up-butt mode).
P.S. If this is ever archived, I hope that in the future when the MicroSoft Secret Police find it they are unable to connect my Account name to my real name. I'll surely be in trouble then!
P.P.S. Please don't help them.
You left out several pieces:
-- Don't get it completely right until the third version; but let the customer pay for your development alpha and beta releases.
-- Wrap the code in an air- and watertight EULA that is enforced by half the lawyers in the state of Washington (all under retainer to MicroSoft).
-- Undermine, buy, or crush any other company that has a product that slightly smells of your precious product (even it it IS better).
Yep. That looks like their recipe for success.
This smacks of a drug deal-- the first one is free, but the rest will cost you...
You are correct. This is bad on so many levels.
First, it ups the ante, and makes the distributors of DDoS (would that make them DoDDoSers?) MORE likely to do their evil deeds. (too Batman-ish?? oh well). If I were a DoDDoSer, I would want to come up with newer DDoS attacks just to see what this company can serve up.
Second, and most important-- A DDoS is only triggered from one hacker's machine, but the DDoS is launched from many, many (mostly naive and unsophisticated) user machines, who will have to BEAR THE BRUNT of the counterattack. Granted, this should WAKE THEM UP about the need for SECURITY-- but until that happens, what is the price of the counter-attack?
Inquiring minds need to know.
I think the term is "collateral damage".
In 15 years (or less) people will have this much data on their Palm Pilot.
Ain't that the truth. Sure, money is *nice*-- but most of us would sooner stick out a job that pays less but is very satisfying otherwise, than sticking around a job that pays well but is hell on earth.
There was this story on TV about people who harvest Alaskan King Crabs. They make a fortune-- but they have to go out in very harsh arctic weather; work 16 or more hours a day in rough seas for weeks at a time; and have to stay alert the entire time while they are harvesting (lest they are swept overboard or have a limb removed).
Nope-- no thanks there!
If I run my house on 220 volts, will I get twice the bandwidth??
I think your view that IBM is positioning is absolutely correct-- and congrats on being the first to recognize it as such. If Sun works with IBM it will only be because they want to nip this '.NET' thing in the bud.
This will all play out much more shortly...
I've been reading this entire thread, and while the subject of bad tech schools IS a problem, it is not the entire problem.
Even a bad tech school can turn out a good graduate. What makes a good graduate is their commitment and their continuing research and interest in their areas of study (and exploring peripheral related subjects that they are not taught).
The education doesn't end at graduation.
If a student thinks he can make big bucks by attending a few classes and getting by on just passable grades and be done with it (companies will be knocking themselves over to hire them-- ha!) then that student is due for a very painful reality check. Commitment to exploring an ever-changing technology, and a real love of the subject will eventually show (and show UP as 'experience' on the resume) and then the investment in the students education will pay off.
Gamer-only experience applicants need not apply.
So go ahead and mod me down as 'preachy'. The best techies ARE self taught; the tech schools just help them on their way. It is the truth. Deal with it.
Hey, I've said the same thing about this same thread every time it pops up here in /. (which is about every other week).
Who is paying the spammers? Not us, the recipients. SOMEONE out there is hiring spammers to hawk their wares. The sellers pay maybe a few cents for each idiot who responds to the spam. The spammers make money if they get some ridiculous low response rate, like 1 in 1000, or 1 in a million.
So, what to do? GO AFTER THE PEOPLE WHO HIRE THE SPAMMERS!! It's not hard-- follow the trail and get someone to actually BUY the spammed product; AND THEN GO AFTER THOSE SELLERS AND CRUSH THEM! Preferably, the prosecuters should be someone in authority that goes after the sellers; but in a pinch, any hacker with a notion to DDOS a seller will suffice.
So, what does this accomplish? If threatened properly (or even prosecuted) that seller will NEVER hire a spammer again. So what? you say-- the spammer will move on to the next 'innocent' seller. Of course, we *COULD* make a deal with the seller, if he gives us the NAME of the spammer. Then we can REALLY go after the root of the problem-- let your imagination play with that for a while.
All we need is a sufficiently funded, properly equiped task force that follows up on spam (and maybe a lawyer or two thrown in for legal purposes) and finds the spammers through the sellers.
You know, this is a perfect job for those who like to work at home. Buy a spam product, find out the seller, and report that seller to the people who can put the hammer to them.
Think about it. What's the downside?
>FreeBSD is amazingly stable. Uptimes of a year are taken for granted.
People claiming uptimes of a year or more make me cringe. Don't they even CONSIDER applying the latest SECURITY PATCHES?
My first car was a hand-me-down Renault Dauphine, an early 60's model, I think. I had just gotten my drivers license, and my brother gave me the car as he went into the Navy in 1966. It had a few problems-- the distributer cap broke for some reason once; but it drove OK for me and my friends.
It met it's demise one winter in the parking lot of Chicago's Museum of Science and Industry when the heater went out while we were visiting. The windows frosted up faster than we could rub off the ice, and we ended up wrecking it. So much for teen-age driving experience. My dad practically killed me.
If you really, really dig deep, and look at the design specs of both the PCI bus and SBUS, you will find a lot of similarities. The SBUS did preceed the PCI bus by about a year.
Yeah, I live in Hampton Roads. Newport News is practically next door (ok, the city limit is about 300 yards from my house). I applaud their efforts to get out from under the thumb of the evil MicroSoft empire. Go Linux! Go GNU! Go away MicroSoft!! Heh-heh-heh!!!
Hey Bozo--
Let's just give the terrorists ANOTHER WAY to figure out how to blow us to bits.
Perhaps like --> O-P-E-N-B-O-O-T P-R-O-M, which Sun (and Apple) have been using for years?
Oh, wait a minute! That contains the word 'open'. That can't POSSIBLY by used in the same sentence as 'Microsoft'.... Duh....
If they can pull this off, maybe the world won't see them as the profit-mongering 800-pound gorilla monopoly corporation they are. They will be heroes to us working-class.
Unless, of course, they make it proprietary and charge huge license fees.
Oh, well. It was Christmas... we all can wish...
...that if an elderly educated person said that something in his realm of expertise could be done, he was almost always correct. If an elderly educated person said that something in his area of expertise could not be done, he would most likely be wrong.
Wrong again, RIAA!! HA!
Other than Commodore's stupidity, another one of the reasons the Amiga never took off was because of Bill Gates.
Yes, the same ol' Bill Gates of Microsoft.
As I heard the story, the Amiga was in Redmond for scrutiny; but then Bill Gates decided not to develop for it. That decision may have resulted from negotiations with Commodore, who may not have wanted to be exhorted by Microsoft. Of course, Commodore could have also made their decision because they were totally obtuse.
At any rate, *MY* view of Microsoft turned at that point. I used to admire Microsoft as an 'IBM-killer'. After that decision, I held no love for Microsoft.
You could always put a large syringe and needle on it and threaten Princess Leia while she is imprisoned in the Death Star...
If we could make spamming illegal--
1) Go after the people who employ spammers. Surely the product they inundate us with leads to real people.
2) Prosecute those people to the full extent of the law. Make examples of the first few thousand.
3) Result-- nobody will hire a spammer, and it GOES AWAY.
End of *MY* business model!
You know, where the phone companies sell their (home) customers services to block telemarketers, and then turn around and sell the telemarketers methods on how to get around those blocks?
Perhaps Microsoft will sell Pop-up advertisers a way to get around the new IE pop-up blocking software.
Hey, it's just another revenue stream!!
The problem with your premise is that the people KNOW the difference between someone spouting crap and someone who knows what they are talking about. While /. generally has a lower noise to signal ratio, there are still those out there that don't know the difference.
Gullible? Yeah, everyone is, at least once.
Isn't that why these 'phishers' exist?