There is a node list on the PTP site. Walk into a few of the cafes listed there and ask around. The proof is there to actually see, not to speculate on or muse on some top heavy admin undoable limiting system, its really and actually in the field working.
I know thats sort of a rare thing in slashrot threads, actual provable facts, but come to Portland OR and see it in action.
We are seeing more and more social interaction augmentation with the use of Wifi in the cafes we have got nodes in. Some have grown groups of folks who come in to use the wifi and drink coffee rather than sit in an office all day. Others have folks who use the wifi to help meetup with thier freinds much as you might use a cell phone.
Everyone who has a laptop and uses wifi in the open is not a pasty skinned twenty something with limited social skills, belive it or not...Well if you dont just come to Portland OR and see for yourself.
We here in Personal Telco Project ( http://www.personaltelco.net/ )country, that being Portland Oregon, have not seen this particular behavior go on. In fact we have seen the exact flip side in most of the cafes we help get nodes into.
There are several coffe houses who can point to the day the PTP node went in as the day thier revenues went up, noticably.
There are communities that can point to the day some one put up a neighborhood node to as the day folks started spreading the goodness.
We have found that when folks put up a Free Wifi Node and all that it can entail (not just internet access but community based local content (web, daap, zeroconf, ftp, distro repositories , etc etc) the community of users are enriched and the people hosting the node are not abused to the point of wanting to turn it off.
Maybe we are truly in the right place at the right time with the right mix of citizens, who are the riches of any city as b!x will tell you. Im not sure whats cooking up there in Seattle but i hope it gets better.
Folks, at its best Podcasting is supposed to break us free from the crappy world of FCC filtered, Clear Channel backed pablum that has been hoisted on us. Podcasting is the RESPONSE to years of having our airwaves taken away from us by govermental force and used by a few corporations to tell us what and when to listen to the music they want to seel us or to listen to the news they demand we belive.
Podcasting, heck any methodology that subverts the traditional communications paradigm of "We own you, you listen to what we tell you to" is a great and glorious thing. It gives us the possibility of finding our own voices, of putting out our own content and of sharing in these things across the whole of humanity.
But now those same tradionalists who took the airwaves from us want to join in the revoltuion against them? Something smell fishy to you yet?
Lets break the KYOU thing down
Infinity looses its biggest ever cash cow (Stern) and is DESPERATE for a new "thing". So whats new? (not much you..that should get the nprheads)
Podcasting, which is just mp3s passed around via automated apps (bashpodder being imnsfho the best) goes from 0 to Hyperspace speeds in under a year...
Many podcasters are living on the steam that they are changing the course of history, that each and every days recounting of thier lunch choices is a signal to the world of paradigm shifting import that EVERYONE needs to hear..(ok so some podcasters are not into this ego shit eating contest and yes some podcasts are just that fucking damn good and should be listened to... but enough fit this description that the idea holds.)
SO here is Infinity DESPERATE for Something New SO here are some Podcaster DESPERATE to be heard
Hey look, linkup synchup dontcha just wana throw up..because...
INfinity pays NOTHING for the content, they sell ads and make the revenue, and the content is filtered to FCC cleaness standards to boot.
So the Podcasters have to be FCC filtered, thier works make revenue for Infinity alone, and man does this begin to sound like some radio execs wet dream or what?
Folks, this is fishy at best and a subversion of what indipendent media is suppose to be about at worst. I say no thanks.
Want to empower your citizens or simply want to sell them to the highest bidder?
Sure this simplifies the question, but some solutions ( http://www.personaltelco.net ) work with all the parts of a community ( citizens, biz owners, etc) to create the power to empower, not simply the muni blessed right to make more montly bill paying consumers.
The real question is , what works for your community. In places where there is not a grass roots DIY mindset then the AOLization method might indeed be the way to go, for communities that can raise the populace to action though....oh thereis so much more to be done.
Another mp3 device another chance for the drinkers of Apples Koolaid to do a Carl Rove.
"its ugly" - No my friend your reactionary knee jerk is ugly, so is the consumer attitude spewed by the iPlod zealotry.
"it wont work with iTunes" - Since when does having to work with an AOL style service (You pay for what we tell you to do) come into play. If anything folks shouldbe happy not to be tied to a DRM stuffed albatros like iTunes.
"i am an ipod user and therefor..." - Hey cool at least your letting us know up front you have partaken of the koolaid.
Wake up consumer sheeple, think differnt....for a change.
Im also happy not to be a iTunes luser, folks who pretty much take pride in being a pseudo hip WalMart generation.
Why is it that Slashdot became a bastion of mindeless consumer stupidity, of folks who wont use PGP becuase its not easy enough or even vote because they would have to gat thier asses off thier couch or out of a hip bar for a few hours?
The amazing Trevor Blake posted this fine news up to http://www.amsam.org/ recently..
Rush Limbaugh Coordinates Denial of Service Attack
Transcripts from Rush Limbaugh's own Web site from his show confirm that he coordinated a Denial of Service attack on a third party's Web site. This is a crime punishable by up to 5-10 years incarceration, according to one source[1]. The victim of this attack has elected to not seek legal compensation, but that does not make the attack any less illegal.
Rush Limbaugh, September 28, 2004:[2] "Let's shut this website down, folks. Shall we? [...] I don't often suggest this kind of thing, but this could be fun here. [...] And, you know, we've shut down the server, folks. That's why you can't get through. Don't tell me the address is wrong, that's what happens when you ask about five million people to go to the same website at once, you shut it down, that was the objective here. We want them to get all excited and say wow, our website is taking off. Essentially in the computer world what we've created here is a DOS, a denial of service attack, so many people trying to get in at one time."
Rush Limbaugh, September 30, 2004:[3] "And so when I heard about this I thought we'd have a little fun with it. [...] I said, 'Let's go shut 'em down, folks,' meaning not put 'em out of business, but let's just flood them with activity knowing full well that that's always gonna happen when I give a web address here and suggest people go look at it. There are simply too many millions of people here, and this is obviously a small website. Shut it down for awhile. "
Simple fact..he has been doing this for 20+years and the results are tangible.
For all those puritanical snobs in the geek crowd, factor this into your presitine equations... Stern has done on radio what many of you SAY you want to do for free speech. What is this?
He has breathed actual Free Speech into the airwaves , he lives how others claim they want. The proof is 20+ years of broadcasts.
Meanwhile many of the puritanicals here and elsewhere simply pay free speech lip service in some pleasureless blow job.
Often I find puritanical geeks the first ones to cry for silencing a voice, for cleaning up what they find dirty, for forcing thier "correct" view on things simply because for another way to exist invalidates the "There Can Be Only One" morality they live by.
"We have factored in all variables and your views are simply unsound, so we must now force your views down"
YRO? Look around you. You think the only problems out there carry a Clear Channle biz card? You think all relgious zelots are Christian/Jewish/Islamic? You think only Bush and his ilk are wanting to burn books in this country?
Love him or hate him Stern has been swing the bat in the ballgame of Free Speech.
And lets not forget the other place he is heard everyday.. The Usenet Broadcasting Network.
(podcasting....ummm is this another nameshifting apple thing for something folks have been doing for years already?)
Once again, something that has been done for years by folks is touted by the CultOfApple as New.
First off, AIFF only? For bogs sake why?
Second off, Radio shows have been pulled off the airwaves and posted as MP3s on various USENET grops for years now to the point that most any show I have heard mentioned here , Demento, Bell, Air America, NPR, CBC, BBC, etc etc are all there for the daily taking.
And in a format that allows me to use it on most any devices I have for audio.
Third off...the hardware to do this has been around for ages on OPEN platforms that allow technology to be created for it rather than forcing innovation into style-over-substance regulations and packing it up in fiesta condom colors.
Buzzwords are one thing, but for a real well done and visbale example of where marketthink can go look at the whole CultOfApple.
They have packaged a lifestyle complete with image, fashion, ethics and a psuedo faith based foundation to hang it all on.
Like all cults the true koolaid drinker is trained to respond to questions of thier faith. Try talking to a true apple beliver about the built in tithe system to apple via jacking up costs etc, shoddy hardware that fails , abandonment of legacy systems just a few years out in the wild....
Now of course I realize this is going to get the jackboot of the CultOfApple as soon as I postit, but this only helps hammer home the point.
Scientology, Jews For Jesus, Moonies, CultOfApple...
Nothing New...To Those Who Are Of BOB
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Alpha and Omega http://www.subgenius.com/
" Follow your FOLLIES and COMPULSIONS and become rich like us. Explore the "Zen" of stupidity! Channel chronic procrastination into life-saving paranoia and precise anatityl MAKE WASTE!! Find out who your Personal Saviors may be and who are the False Prophets in your life!
YES, YOU MAY BE THE SUBGENIUS, MASTER OF THE STOOGLEY ARTS! Perform the Salute!
The most 'NO WAY' new wage religion of them all!! Brain-trust of our species!!"
We offer connectivity at over 100 locations throughout the Portland Oregon area for the amazing price of
$0
www.personaltelco.net
How do we do this? Its a little something called Community and it seems to be a far more powerfull force in this town then all the T-mobile run hotspots combined.
HAM radio does not offer free communications across its bands. The number of things you CAN NOT do is such that a free and open network is immpossible.
And before folks jump on the defensive of HAMS, go read the actual rules for HAMS, you will discover encryption is verboten as are mnay of the things we use to create open and free networks.
If you think you can pull off an open and free network across the HAM bands then by all means go for it. In the attempt you will get to see that thte GOV and FCC are not the only frequency facists in town.
If you get a chance to read the WillyWeek piece on what we are up to in Portland OR you will notice that what has actualy BEEN DONE, not planned or figured out but really and truly in the field working, has been done by the Personal Telco Project for the grand tax payer burden of $0
Donations, sweat labor, dedicated folks doing the labor, home and biz owners dontating up space, bandwidth being given....
So of course the thing to do for City Agencies is to see something that is working and come up with a way to make this cost tax payers $$$ and for them to make the usual graft, oldboyisms, backroom dealing and intrabiz payoffs.
Yea, thats Agency think for ya..
Meanwhile back in the world of things actualyworking the PTP is putting up more nodes all the time.
Most of our nodes dont block ports except for maybe 25. Everything else is open once you hit the I Agree button.
We dont ask for a Name, Password, SS#, Credit Card or Blood Sample... Just that you agree not to break things and if you do a crime on the net its your ass your hanging.. AUPs are a nice thing.
There are folks, a small number but still some, who READ the TOS before buying things like backhaul and make a EDUCATED choice to spend thier cash on ISPs who allow, yes allow , being a good neighbor.
Here in Portland OR we have Easystreet, Spirtech, Integra, Speakeasy and a bunch more who have put down policy to allow folks to use what they buy as they see fit.
Yea I know its not for everyone, I know most would rather stay stupid and smile a big cheesey white glitter tooth for the mass consumption media.."have another happy meal everything is ok just keep paying for a service we wont let you use"
Super Size your Comcast service? Well sure pump it up to a t3's worth of backhaul...but dont do anything listed in the tos or your criminal bad person...
There are services that cost money to provide that are given away and the cost recouped either indirectly or as a markup in the overl price of other goods and services being offered.
With Free Community Wireless Networking the cost of backhaul and Equipment to cover a small area (commercial frontage, public use space, dwelling) can often be either recovered by increased biz or absorbed as the cost of being a good neighbor.
Just as Movie Theaters saw dramtic increases in summer time viewers with the inclusion of Air Conditioning so too are some biz and public spaces finding an increase base of use withthe draw of Free Wireless.
Living in Portland OR and being a part of the Personal Telco Project I can say this as a proven fact and not simply as some slashrot debate point. The places where we have nodes are seeing marked increases in their customer base. Several places we have put nodes in have become social centers for nomad laptop workers.
The problem with the Fee plans are that they simply will not wake up to the fact that customers will not pay for something that will quickly be seen on par with Lighting, AC, a glass of water, background music and those cool drink umbrellas.
Wake up Biz People....The writting is not only on the wall its on your bottom line.
The City of Portland and why its time to DIY
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Back a few months ago the City of Portland made a good showing in being one of the most unwired cities in the USA. Thing is the City itself had nothing to do with this feat. What was the big stand out factor?
Free Community Wireless Networking nodes and hotspots put up largely by the Personal Telco Project (www.personaltelco.net)
The lesson here is to not wait for your local government or chamber to do this for you..DO IT Yourselves. The way the tech is now both in price and availability there is ample opportunity to build your own community network and show the supposed "big boys" how its done.
If you look around the country you will see lots of groups doing just this. Seattle Wireless, NYC Wireless, Bay Area Wireless Group..the list goes on and on.
Slashdot Mirror
All Free Open Community Network Nodes..
All the Time
http://personaltelco.net/map/
Good Neighbors Share.
There is a node list on the PTP site. Walk into a few of the cafes listed there and ask around. The proof is there to actually see, not to speculate on or muse on some top heavy admin undoable limiting system, its really and actually in the field working.
I know thats sort of a rare thing in slashrot threads, actual provable facts, but come to Portland OR and see it in action.
We are seeing more and more social interaction augmentation with the use of Wifi in the cafes we have got nodes in. Some have grown groups of folks who come in to use the wifi and drink coffee rather than sit in an office all day. Others have folks who use the wifi to help meetup with thier freinds much as you might use a cell phone.
...Well if you dont just come to Portland OR and see for yourself.
Everyone who has a laptop and uses wifi in the open is not a pasty skinned twenty something with limited social skills, belive it or not
We here in Personal Telco Project ( http://www.personaltelco.net/ )country, that being Portland Oregon, have not seen this particular behavior go on. In fact we have seen the exact flip side in most of the cafes we help get nodes into.
There are several coffe houses who can point to the day the PTP node went in as the day thier revenues went up, noticably.
There are communities that can point to the day some one put up a neighborhood node to as the day folks started spreading the goodness.
We have found that when folks put up a Free Wifi Node and all that it can entail (not just internet access but community based local content (web, daap, zeroconf, ftp, distro repositories , etc etc) the community of users are enriched and the people hosting the node are not abused to the point of wanting to turn it off.
Maybe we are truly in the right place at the right time with the right mix of citizens, who are the riches of any city as b!x will tell you. Im not sure whats cooking up there in Seattle but i hope it gets better.
-tomhiggins
www.personaltelco.net
Folks, at its best Podcasting is supposed to break us free from the crappy world of FCC filtered, Clear Channel backed pablum that has been hoisted on us. Podcasting is the RESPONSE to years of having our airwaves taken away from us by govermental force and used by a few corporations to tell us what and when to listen to the music they want to seel us or to listen to the news they demand we belive.
Podcasting, heck any methodology that subverts the traditional communications paradigm of "We own you, you listen to what we tell you to" is a great and glorious thing. It gives us the possibility of finding our own voices, of putting out our own content and of sharing in these things across the whole of humanity.
But now those same tradionalists who took the airwaves from us want to join in the revoltuion against them? Something smell fishy to you yet?
Lets break the KYOU thing down
Infinity looses its biggest ever cash cow (Stern) and is DESPERATE for a new "thing". So whats new? (not much you..that should get the nprheads)
Podcasting, which is just mp3s passed around via automated apps (bashpodder being imnsfho the best) goes from 0 to Hyperspace speeds in under a year...
Many podcasters are living on the steam that they are changing the course of history, that each and every days recounting of thier lunch choices is a signal to the world of paradigm shifting import that EVERYONE needs to hear..(ok so some podcasters are not into this ego shit eating contest and yes some podcasts are just that fucking damn good and should be listened to... but enough fit this description that the idea holds.)
SO here is Infinity DESPERATE for Something New
SO here are some Podcaster DESPERATE to be heard
Hey look, linkup synchup dontcha just wana throw up..because...
INfinity pays NOTHING for the content, they sell ads and make the revenue, and the content is filtered to FCC cleaness standards to boot.
So the Podcasters have to be FCC filtered, thier works make revenue for Infinity alone, and man does this begin to sound like some radio execs wet dream or what?
Folks, this is fishy at best and a subversion of what indipendent media is suppose to be about at worst. I say no thanks.
Burn Radio Burn
Want to empower your citizens or simply want to sell them to the highest bidder?
Sure this simplifies the question, but some solutions ( http://www.personaltelco.net ) work with all the parts of a community ( citizens, biz owners, etc) to create the power to empower, not simply the muni blessed right to make more montly bill paying consumers.
The real question is , what works for your community. In places where there is not a grass roots DIY mindset then the AOLization method might indeed be the way to go, for communities that can raise the populace to action though....oh thereis so much more to be done.
Come to Portland, see the results in progress.
-tom
Another mp3 device another chance for the drinkers of Apples Koolaid to do a Carl Rove.
..." - Hey cool at least your letting us know up front you have partaken of the koolaid.
"its ugly" - No my friend your reactionary knee jerk is ugly, so is the consumer attitude spewed by the iPlod zealotry.
"it wont work with iTunes" - Since when does having to work with an AOL style service (You pay for what we tell you to do) come into play. If anything folks shouldbe happy not to be tied to a DRM stuffed albatros like iTunes.
"i am an ipod user and therefor
Wake up consumer sheeple, think differnt....for a change.
Gnomad and Neutrino make my life very very happy.
Im also happy not to be a iTunes luser, folks who pretty much take pride in being a pseudo hip WalMart generation.
Why is it that Slashdot became a bastion of mindeless consumer stupidity, of folks who wont use PGP becuase its not easy enough or even vote because they would have to gat thier asses off thier couch or out of a hip bar for a few hours?
Zen Nomad Xtra....Think Differnt...For Real
The amazing Trevor Blake posted this fine news up to http://www.amsam.org/ recently..
- ddosfaq.html#3.04 /content/cutting_edge.guest.html4 /content/cutting_edge.guest.html
Rush Limbaugh Coordinates Denial of Service Attack
Transcripts from Rush Limbaugh's own Web site from his show confirm that he coordinated a Denial of Service attack on a third party's Web site. This is a crime punishable by up to 5-10 years incarceration, according to one source[1]. The victim of this attack has elected to
not seek legal compensation, but that does not make the attack any
less illegal.
Rush Limbaugh, September 28, 2004:[2] "Let's shut this website down,
folks. Shall we? [...] I don't often suggest this kind of thing, but
this could be fun here. [...] And, you know, we've shut down the
server, folks. That's why you can't get through. Don't tell me the
address is wrong, that's what happens when you ask about five million
people to go to the same website at once, you shut it down, that was
the objective here. We want them to get all excited and say wow, our
website is taking off. Essentially in the computer world what we've
created here is a DOS, a denial of service attack, so many people
trying to get in at one time."
Rush Limbaugh, September 30, 2004:[3] "And so when I heard about this
I thought we'd have a little fun with it. [...] I said, 'Let's go shut
'em down, folks,' meaning not put 'em out of business, but let's just
flood them with activity knowing full well that that's always gonna
happen when I give a web address here and suggest people go look at
it. There are simply too many millions of people here, and this is
obviously a small website. Shut it down for awhile. "
[1] http://www.seifried.org/security/network/20020305
[2] http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_09280
[3] http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_09300
Simple fact..he has been doing this for 20+years and the results are tangible.
For all those puritanical snobs in the geek crowd, factor this into your presitine equations... Stern has done on radio what many of you SAY you want to do for free speech. What is this?
He has breathed actual Free Speech into the airwaves , he lives how others claim they want. The proof is 20+ years of broadcasts.
Meanwhile many of the puritanicals here and elsewhere simply pay free speech lip service in some pleasureless blow job.
Often I find puritanical geeks the first ones to cry for silencing a voice, for cleaning up what they find dirty, for forcing thier "correct" view on things simply because for another way to exist invalidates the "There Can Be Only One" morality they live by.
"We have factored in all variables and your views are simply unsound, so we must now force your views down"
YRO? Look around you. You think the only problems out there carry a Clear Channle biz card? You think all relgious zelots are Christian/Jewish/Islamic? You think only Bush and his ilk are wanting to burn books in this country?
Love him or hate him Stern has been swing the bat in the ballgame of Free Speech.
And lets not forget the other place he is heard everyday.. The Usenet Broadcasting Network.
(podcasting....ummm is this another nameshifting apple thing for something folks have been doing for years already?)
Once again, something that has been done for years by folks is touted by the CultOfApple as New.
First off, AIFF only? For bogs sake why?
Second off, Radio shows have been pulled off the airwaves and posted as MP3s on various USENET grops for years now to the point that most any show I have heard mentioned here , Demento, Bell, Air America, NPR, CBC, BBC, etc etc are all there for the daily taking.
And in a format that allows me to use it on most any devices I have for audio.
Third off...the hardware to do this has been around for ages on OPEN platforms that allow technology to be created for it rather than forcing innovation into style-over-substance regulations and packing it up in fiesta condom colors.
Think Differnt
Buzzwords are one thing, but for a real well done and visbale example of where marketthink can go look at the whole CultOfApple.
They have packaged a lifestyle complete with image, fashion, ethics and a psuedo faith based foundation to hang it all on.
Like all cults the true koolaid drinker is trained to respond to questions of thier faith. Try talking to a true apple beliver about the built in tithe system to apple via jacking up costs etc, shoddy hardware that fails , abandonment of legacy systems just a few years out in the wild....
Now of course I realize this is going to get the jackboot of the CultOfApple as soon as I postit, but this only helps hammer home the point.
Scientology, Jews For Jesus, Moonies, CultOfApple...
http://hublog.hubmed.org/archives/000870.html
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#!/usr/local/bin/perl
use LWP::Simple;
$webjay = get('http://webjay.org');
while ( $webjay =~ m|href\=\"(.*?)\"|igs ){
if (( $1 =~ m|^(http://webjay.org/by/.*?/.*?)$|i )
&& ( $1 !~
{ push @playlists, $1 }
}
$play = rand(scalar(@playlists));
exec "open $playlists[$play].smil";
Alpha and Omega
http://www.subgenius.com/
" Follow your FOLLIES and COMPULSIONS and become rich like us.
Explore the "Zen" of stupidity! Channel chronic procrastination into life-saving paranoia and precise anatityl MAKE WASTE!!
Find out who your Personal Saviors may be and who are the False Prophets in your life!
YES, YOU MAY BE THE SUBGENIUS, MASTER OF THE STOOGLEY ARTS! Perform the Salute!
The most 'NO WAY' new wage religion of them all!!
Brain-trust of our species!!"
You dont belive me?? Ok here is a list a a handfull of cafes you can get $0 access at.
Some of these are even next to or in areas of ForPay wif cafes.
Enjoy the Connectivity while you juice up on the java.
Pioneer Courthouse Square Area(covers a few cafes)-SW 6th and Morrison
Powell's Bookstore World Cup Cafe-NW 10th and Burnside
Stumptown Coffee Roasters-SW 3rd and Ash
Anna Bannanas-NW 21st and Northup
World Cup Coffee and Tea- NW 18th and Glisan
Ecotrust- NW 10th and Johnson
Coffee Plant-SW Broadway and Washington
Backspace-NW 5th and Couch
South Park Blocks-SW Park and Market
The Basement Public House-SE 12th and Taylor
Red Wing Coffee and Baking-SE 6th and Market
Rose and Raindrop-SE Grand and Stark
Portland Independent Media Center
-SE 34th and Belmont
Subway Sandwich- SE 35th and Hawthorne
Hawthorne Hosteling International-SE 31st and Hawthorne
Goldrush Coffee Bar-NE M L King Blvd and Russell
Northstar Coffeehouse-N Interstate and Lombard
Costello's Travel Caffe- NE 22nd and Broadway
Red and Black Cafe-SE 21st and Division
Ugly Mug Coffeehouse-SE 13th and Nehalem
The Crow Bar-N Mississippi and Failing
Cafe La Dolce Vita-NE 12th and Alberta
Urban Grind Coffeehouse-NE 22nd and Oregon
Cedar Hills Crossing Shopping Center-3205 SW Cedar Hills Blvd. in Beaverton
-tomhiggins
We offer connectivity at over 100 locations throughout the Portland Oregon area for the amazing price of
$0
www.personaltelco.net
How do we do this? Its a little something called Community and it seems to be a far more powerfull force in this town then all the T-mobile run hotspots combined.
Welcome to Portland.
-tomhiggins
www.personaltelco.net
HAM radio does not offer free communications across its bands. The number of things you CAN NOT do is such that a free and open network is immpossible.
And before folks jump on the defensive of HAMS, go read the actual rules for HAMS, you will discover encryption is verboten as are mnay of the things we use to create open and free networks.
If you think you can pull off an open and free network across the HAM bands then by all means go for it. In the attempt you will get to see that thte GOV and FCC are not the only frequency facists in town.
Dave is historicaly a pain in the ass. FreeSoftware/OpenSource should be able to get around ego centric pains in the ass, so let it be with RSS.
Bye Bye Dave
-tomwsmf
If you get a chance to read the WillyWeek piece on what we are up to in Portland OR you will notice that what has actualy BEEN DONE, not planned or figured out but really and truly in the field working, has been done by the Personal Telco Project for the grand tax payer burden of $0
Donations, sweat labor, dedicated folks doing the labor, home and biz owners dontating up space, bandwidth being given....
So of course the thing to do for City Agencies is to see something that is working and come up with a way to make this cost tax payers $$$ and for them to make the usual graft, oldboyisms, backroom dealing and intrabiz payoffs.
Yea, thats Agency think for ya..
Meanwhile back in the world of things actualyworking the PTP is putting up more nodes all the time.
Networks require Net Work....so get working.
-tomwsmf
Want to see what you can get from donations and volunteer efforts?
http://www.personaltelco.net
2.8 million would be nice to have, do not get me wrong. Given what we are doing for what we have it would mean a heck of a lot of coverage.
Most of our nodes dont block ports except for maybe 25. Everything else is open once you hit the I Agree button.
We dont ask for a Name, Password, SS#, Credit Card or Blood Sample... Just that you agree not to break things and if you do a crime on the net its your ass your hanging.. AUPs are a nice thing.
What node are you running?
There are folks, a small number but still some, who READ the TOS before buying things like backhaul and make a EDUCATED choice to spend thier cash on ISPs who allow, yes allow , being a good neighbor.
Here in Portland OR we have Easystreet, Spirtech, Integra, Speakeasy and a bunch more who have put down policy to allow folks to use what they buy as they see fit.
Yea I know its not for everyone, I know most would rather stay stupid and smile a big cheesey white glitter tooth for the mass consumption media.."have another happy meal everything is ok just keep paying for a service we wont let you use"
Super Size your Comcast service? Well sure pump it up to a t3's worth of backhaul...but dont do anything listed in the tos or your criminal bad person...
Live free or die
Bang bang Have a nice day.
There are services that cost money to provide that are given away and the cost recouped either indirectly or as a markup in the overl price of other goods and services being offered.
With Free Community Wireless Networking the cost of backhaul and Equipment to cover a small area (commercial frontage, public use space, dwelling) can often be either recovered by increased biz or absorbed as the cost of being a good neighbor.
Just as Movie Theaters saw dramtic increases in summer time viewers with the inclusion of Air Conditioning so too are some biz and public spaces finding an increase base of use withthe draw of Free Wireless.
Living in Portland OR and being a part of the Personal Telco Project I can say this as a proven fact and not simply as some slashrot debate point. The places where we have nodes are seeing marked increases in their customer base. Several places we have put nodes in have become social centers for nomad laptop workers.
The problem with the Fee plans are that they simply will not wake up to the fact that customers will not pay for something that will quickly be seen on par with Lighting, AC, a glass of water, background music and those cool drink umbrellas.
Wake up Biz People....The writting is not only on the wall its on your bottom line.
1) Educate folks to build free community wireless netowrks
2) Help them build it
3) Tie them togther
4) Enjoy
Personal Telco Project
"Making tomorrows today yesterday"
Back a few months ago the City of Portland made a good showing in being one of the most unwired cities in the USA. Thing is the City itself had nothing to do with this feat. What was the big stand out factor?
Free Community Wireless Networking nodes and hotspots put up largely by the Personal Telco Project (www.personaltelco.net)
The lesson here is to not wait for your local government or chamber to do this for you..DO IT Yourselves. The way the tech is now both in price and availability there is ample opportunity to build your own community network and show the supposed "big boys" how its done.
If you look around the country you will see lots of groups doing just this. Seattle Wireless, NYC Wireless, Bay Area Wireless Group..the list goes on and on.
-tomwsmf