Time-Shifting For The iPod

depechemodem writes "This story at ExtremeiPod talks about a new piece of software from Adam Curry called iPodder (now at Sourceforge) which uses RSS feeds with MP3 enclosures to stream audio to iTunes. The best part is that those streams can be saved as clips automatically on to your iPod or other MP3 player for later listening making this the first portable time-shifted Internet audio application. The code is alse being ported to Windows."

Comments

Wow, Adam Curry

[krog]

Good to see he's still in the music business. Does he still have that outrageous hair? And the acid-washed jeans?

Re:Wow, Adam Curry

[YetAnotherName]

And now he's into open source development! I just don't know if we can allow someone that good looking, though ... I mean, it's hard enough for Stallman to get a date.

I kid, I kid ...

Re:Wow, Adam Curry

[DrEldarion]

After Cliffy B, it's hard for any nerd to compare.

Re:Wow, Adam Curry

[Anonymous Coward]

Is there anything this VJ can't do?!

Re:Wow, Adam Curry

[GeorgeMcBay]

The thing that makes this really funny is that unlike the Matt Dillon jokes that pop up every time the BSD Matt Dillon is mentioned, this really is "that" Adam Curry. The one from MTV. Same guy...

Re:Wow, Adam Curry

[Anonymous Coward]

Well, better that than the pearls, stockings and garter belt that he wore in that Rocky Horror movie thing from a few years back.

Er, oh, wait.... Tim Curry... never mind. (Freak.)

Re:Wow, Adam Curry

[Anonymous Coward]

I just don't know if we can allow someone that good looking, though ...

It's too late to start worrying about that. I mean, have you seen Miguel de Icaza? I'd do him in a minute. And I'm not even (very) gay.

Re:Wow, Adam Curry

[unlinear]

Meanwhile, the Dutch Government announces that it still will not acknowledge any responsiblity for Adam Curry and/or his haircuts.

Re:Wow, Adam Curry

[AssFace]

Not sure about the jeans, but his hair is still relatively long and still blonde. He has been living in the Netherlands although I think is moving (to England I think) soon.

I have his blog in my RSS feed - he occasionally posts up photos of him and various people.

He has been doing radio shows (even wen to Iraq and did some coverage there), has owned a series of tech start ups that apparently did fairly well (at least for him), and he also flies planes/helicopters.

Re:Wow, Adam Curry

[Arrowhead]

Heh, funny you should mention the Dutch government and Adam Curry.

It seems the ministry of education has paid a former company of Curry (jamby) a large sum of money for work that they were promised but that didn't happen.

The work/money was too big to give to one company without having other European companies bid on it.

Re:Wow, Adam Curry

[Anonymous Coward]

I'd be happier if he looked like Marth Quinn... /drool...

Re:Wow, Adam Curry

[Anonymous Coward]

I think you might be mistaken.

huh?

[ack154]

Does anyone have a good explaination of what this is doing? I read the site and all, but it sounds like the site and story are talking about different things. Or am I just the only one that's confused??

(it's possible, i know)

Re:huh?

[garcia]

It downloads Internet Radio streams and lets you play them back as MP3s later. Just like Tivo does for TV (allowing you to skip commercials with a slider bar) you can now do that with your favorite MP3 player (including the ever so popularly advertised iPod).

Re:huh?

[strictfoo]

who knows... the website is EXTREMEIPOD.COM for heavens sake.

Re:huh?

[ack154]

That makes more sense... after reading through some other posts it makes even more sense.

Thanks!

Re:huh?

[jargoone]

It's transferring a file. From an RSS feed to another folder (iPod). It downloads the RSS file (WOW!), extracts the content (Double WOW!), and moves it. Pure genius.

Anything with iPod in the description apparently bypasses the submission queue.

Re:huh?

[Anonymous Coward]

Anything with iPod in the description apparently bypasses the submission queue.

I also question why this was front page, at least. Sure, it could be posted just in the Apple section, but it seems not that impressive for front page news.

Re:huh?

[GoRK]

iPod by itself won't bypass the queue unless it also has the keywords 'Linux' or 'RSS' in it. Indeed this is some seriously lackluster stuff. It downloads a list of files and adds them to itunes. Presumably it will also sync it over to the iPod as well. An m3u could do the same thing if iTunes would support saving the URL. Still, sometimes simple apps like this can be among the most useful ones. At least they're not charging you $10 for it like most excessively tiny mac utilities.

Re:huh?

[Anonymous Coward]

That's not what this is... you can capture mp3 streams using wget. Streaming mp3 just writes out a comlete mp3 file, which clients don't happen to save to disk. All you have to do is save the output and you've got a complete, original mp3 file. So, you can do this using anything that downloads, wget, curl, a web browser, anything, though there are specialized tools like streamripper that have certain conveniences.

What this thing does is it wraps mp3 data into an RSS file, so you can do (more or less) audio blogging, posting and checking for small updates.

Re:huh?

[Anonymous Coward]

I dunno, but this is the kind of iPod shifting I like to see!!

Re:huh?

[Malevolyn]

Ah, another one of "those" programs. I usually use StreamRipper and it works great, but I'd prefer a GUI, actually. For once, anyway.

What a load of garbage

[Anonymous Coward]

I constantly timeshift radio using Audiohijack Pro. Every morning, NPR's Morning Edition is recorded and waiting for iTunes to transfer it to my iPod for my morning commute.

Re:What a load of garbage

[n9uxu8]

Now that looks like it may have possibilities...I'll download and give it a try...it's too much of a pain to try and catch Native America Calling while in the lab, and real doesn't have any (currently working) timed record features...

Dave

Re:What a load of garbage

[SpeedyG5]

But it doesn't save it as an MP3. its aif only and for an hour long show thats a lot of meggerbits!

Re:What a load of garbage

[Deekin_Scalesinger]

Er, if it is recording NPR's Morning Edition, and you are listening to it on your morning commute, can't you, I don't know, turn on your radio like Grandpa used to and listen to it live?

Re:What a load of garbage

[UnanimousCoward]

No, because:

1. he wants to hear it through his car stereo speakers
2. his car stereo has only one channel that ISN'T NPR
3. so he has use his iTrip...

Re:What a load of garbage

[CoffeeJedi]

somehow, your explanation makes LESS sense than the original poster!

the only reason i can come up with, is that his daily commute occurs AFTER morning edition has left the air(2nd shift?), so he records it before he wakes up, and listens to it on the way

Re:What a load of garbage

[Anonymous Coward]

It saves with MP3 and AAC as well.

Re:What a load of garbage

[buddhahat]

How about his morning commute doesn't involve a car?

Re:What a load of garbage

[Colazar]

Just a guess, but:

Morning Edition begins broadcasting at ~5AM Pacific time, and repeats its programming several times during its timeslot. (At least here in Seattle.)

Many people's morning commute does not involve a car. The radio reception I got on the bus was always really crappy, so I've given up listening to a lot of radio. This might be a solution.

Re:What a load of garbage

[Anonymous Coward]

Think Subway and Ferry.

Re:What a load of garbage

[UnanimousCoward]

>somehow, your explanation makes LESS sense than the original poster!

It could be just me, but I thought this whole thread was tongue-n-cheek...

Re:What a load of garbage

[Anonymous Coward]

But it's Apple... so it's new a cool! Would you get pretentious already!

Re:What a load of garbage

[CoffeeJedi]

good point... in that case, let me rephrase myself:

I DARE you to make less sense!!!! :-P

Trademarks and copyrights

[tepples]

Won't Apple get upset about the use of the "iPod" trademark in the product's name?

And won't the NMPA and RIAA start to female-dog about it being a copyright infringement tool? No, sharing your own songs may not be a substantial non-infringing use under Betamax because what you call "your own songs" could likely be either covers or subconscious infringements.

I smell cease and desist.

Re:Trademarks and copyrights

[BizidyDizidy]

You probably raise some good points in this post, but it's impossible for me to know because everytime I try to read it, an avalanche of vomit destroys my computer upon reading the phrase "female dog about it"

(posting without reading from my third computer)

Re:Trademarks and copyrights

[jrod2027]

And won't the NMPA and RIAA start to female-dog about it being a copyright infringement tool?

They female-dog about everything anyways. They constantly go around peeing the carpet and chewing the shoes of the very people that feed them. Female-dogs indeed.

Re:Trademarks and copyrights

[cjwl]

Don't forget this is the same guy who owned "mtv.com" back in the day.

http://www.loundy.com/CASES/MTV_v_Curry.html/

Re:Trademarks and copyrights

[MrNemesis]

It doesn't have iPod[TM] in the product name, if you use proper grammar...

It's proper name is an Extremei Pod. Simple how a little judicious spacing can save you a lawsuit ;)

Re:Trademarks and copyrights

[Anonymous Coward]

a bunch of punk-donkey female dogs!

Re:Trademarks and copyrights

[Anonymous Coward]

Maybe he's posting from the J. Edgar Hoover National Library? :)

You know--netfilters and all that.

Time shifting?

[hckrdave]

Is that like a DVR ipod?

Re:Time shifting?

[Mr Guy]

More like a DA(udio)R as in the following sentence: Apple and the RIAA wouldn't DAR to let this project stand as is, with the name and stated goal of perfect copies of broadcasted music.

Firefix extension

[sometwo]

So how about having this as a builtin Firefox extension?

Re:Firefix extension

[garcia]

So how about having this as a browser independent plugin?

Re:Firefix extension

[iamdrscience]

Firefox? How about an Emacs extension. For that matter, how about a firefox extension for Emacs?

Re:Firefix extension

[fireboy1919]

So how about making browsers have a standard ABI for plugins so that what you say is technically possible?

Re:Firefix extension

[Anonymous Coward]

Sorry, no dice. Everything is a Firefox extension.

I posted this using the AutoRecommendFirefoxExtensions Firefox extension. Get it today at www.google.com.

Re:Firefix extension

[Anonymous Coward]

How about letting another program handle it instead of making browsers do more than they should be doing.

Re:Firefix extension

[Anonymous Coward]

I dunno, but this iPod sure gave me an "extension"!!

Whats the point?

[saderax]

How is this different than any other application for downloading music?

Re:Whats the point?

[taped2thedesk]

Well, I'd imagine this would be more useful for recording live events and non-musical programs - I could definately use this to record all of the NPR programs I miss during the day. They are available during for free with Real, but I spend little time in front of the PC, and lots of time on the bus - so something like this would be great. And yes, I am a member of two of my local NPR stations. :)

Re:Rob Glaser / RealNetworks SUCK

[Anonymous Coward]

This has to be one of the worst FPs ever...

Not only is it FAR FROM the FP... you just look like an idiot.

a whoosawhats it now?

[Delphix]

time-shifted Internet audio application

So basically, using an RSS and MP3 wrapper, they've created the 21st century equivalent of a tape recorder hooked up to a radio...

Re:a whoosawhats it now?

[garcia]

So basically, using an RSS and MP3 wrapper, they've created the 21st century equivalent of a tape recorder hooked up to a radio...

More like a crippled DAT hooked up to a digital tuner with an Internet connection. You couldn't exactly tell your tape recorder to only record such and such a show on this, this, and that station without manual intervention. You also wouldn't exactly have digital audio.

Re:a whoosawhats it now?

[Gumber]

Nope, they've created the 21st century equivalent of a global radio network where each user can decide the programming line-up for themselves, or defer to the judgement of others, rather being limited to the programming decisions of the program directors at a few national or regional media companies.

Re:a whoosawhats it now?

[say]

More like a crippled DAT hooked up to a digital tuner with an Internet connection. You couldn't exactly tell your tape recorder to only record such and such a show on this, this, and that station without manual intervention. You also wouldn't exactly have digital audio.

Well, that's what the 21st century equivalent is all about. He didn't claim they had created the exact equivalent, did he?

Re:a whoosawhats it now?

[funkdid]

What's more interesting is I've hooked up my ipod to a flux capaciter and by adding 15 Jigga-Watts (and a Delorian) I'm able to do some REAL Time-shifting!

Re:a whoosawhats it now?

[Anonymous Coward]

"Why, the fax machine is nothing but a waffle iron with a phone attached!" - Abe Simpson

Re:a whoosawhats it now?

[Anonymous Coward]

Yeah, no kidding. A bunch of dunderheads modded that informative...sheesh.

Re:a whoosawhats it now?

[ViolentGreen]

Nope, they've created the 21st century equivalent of a global radio network where each user can decide the programming line-up for themselves, or defer to the judgement of others, rather being limited to the programming decisions of the program directors at a few national or regional media companies.

Well for it to be an equivilant, it would have to have existed before. It's a simple comparison.

Re:a whoosawhats it now?

[Anonymous Coward]

A bunch of people with a fucking clue modded it up. You, OTOH, are a "dunderhead" for thinking that it was wrong.

"Timeshifted"

[ARRRLovin]

"Timeshifted" is the new "previously recorded".

So basically, if I understand this right, it's an app that records audio from the internet then automagically siphons it off to an iPod. Clever....even without the jargon and catchphrases.

Re:"Timeshifted"

[HarveyBirdman]

"Timeshifted" is the new "previously recorded".

Uh, well, it's not really all that new. It came about with the inital advent of VCRs.

Re:"Timeshifted"

[pragma_x]

Thank you for de-buzzing the article for me.

And here I was thinking that someone managed to combine RSS and MP3 to achieve some sort of quantum tunneling or space-time-woojie on an iPod.

Re:"Timeshifted"

[tunabomber]

"Timeshifted" is the new "previously recorded".

Damn, dude. You sure ain't grokking the kool-aid.
Timeshifting is a whole new PARADIGM, man.
The process of timeshifting involves using an advanced digital interface to transfer real-time content onto a special digital medium that is capable of tunneling through the 4th dimension at the blazing rate of 1,000 ms per second. The digital medium is then capable of being deterministically mined for data by your eardrums on-demand at a later 4th dimensional coordinate of your choice.

Re:"Timeshifted"

[badasscat]

"Timeshifted" is the new "previously recorded".

Uh, well, it's not really all that new. It came about with the inital advent of VCRs.

Well, not really. "Time-shifting", as a term, came about because there was something new about it, namely that you could watch what was being recorded while it was being recorded, but at a different point in time than what was recording at that moment. Obviously, that's a mouthful to say, hence the term "time-shifting". It was new to the digital world, and it's a big deal because it lets you, say, pause live TV and go make a sandwich, or start watching an 8 PM program at 8:03 without missing anything, or whatever. A VCR can't do that. (You'd have to record the entire show, then start watching at the beginning once it's over.)

"Time-shifting" is different than just recording and watching/listening later. So this iPodder thing may be a bit of a misnomer; it may not do true time-shifting. It has to be able to play the clips you're recording as you're recording them, at any point in the stream. Just "saving clips" to listen to later is not time-shifting.

Re:"Timeshifted"

[Anonymous Coward]

It's still not a new term. It started with VCRs, and even if the exact technical details change, the TERM is not new. Sheesh, you fucking geeks sometimes...

Re:"Timeshifted"

[eomnimedia]

"Match Game '78" has been timeshifted before a virtual studio audience. A Mark Goodson / Bill Toddman production.

Re:"Timeshifted"

[justzisguy]

As opposed to recording afterwards. Didn't George Carlin have a rant about "previously recorded"?

Re:"Timeshifted"

[ARRRLovin]

Same thing as "Here's a picture of me when I was younger". Oh really? As opposed to the pictures you have of your future self? :D

Re:"Timeshifted"

[TClevenger]

Pre-existing. Pre-planning. Prescreening. Know what I tell these people? "Pre-suck my genital situation!"

wowser, so much more than an mp3 player!

[Chuck Bucket]

and I thought the iPod was just an mp3 player! ;) Seriously, if you watch the development of the device, and consider all of the software being developed for it, it's no wonder Apple isn't running about making another Neuton...in effect, they almost have! I look for the iPod to do a ton more things come January 2005. I for one plan on playing with Linux on mine, then seeing what else I can do with that's cool and new.

DCVLB&*DFS

Re:wowser, so much more than an mp3 player!

[Neward Rylet]

look for the iPod to do a ton more things come January 2005. I for one plan on playing with Linux on mine, then seeing what else I can do with that's cool and new

try playing Linux on it!

cat /* > output.mp3

Re:wowser, so much more than an mp3 player!

[Anonymous Coward]

and I thought the iPod was just an mp3 player! ;)

It is. All this software does is record mp3s on your computer and put them on your iPod. There's no reason why it shouldn't work just the same with any mp3 player.

It's the way that the software records the data which is so interesting.

Re:wowser, so much more than an mp3 player!

[Anonymous Coward]

Your right, its way more than just an mp3 player. It's also a great way to attract the attention of the ladies!!

Re:A little bit offtopic : Some help needed.

[Shabbs]

Check out iPodlounge.

http://www.ipodlounge.com/

Lots of good links, reviews and discussion there about all things iPod (software and hardware related).

Cheers.

Re:A little bit offtopic : Some help needed.

[Anonymous Coward]

i've found that iPodding (www.ipodding.com) is a useful site for news and software...

Re:A little bit offtopic : Some help needed.

[Paulrothrock]

Mac or PC sites?

I don't have a PC, but I use Pod2Go to do a whole bunch of neat stuff, including keeping an auto-synced backup of my important files, like my iPhoto library.

I should care because... ?

[plinkyplonkypk]

Great:

1. So I can let someone use their website to automatically fill my ipod with crap ?

2. I couldn't just download the MP3 and put it in iTunes ? Is that really such a huge task ? Takes like 20 seconds at most, after downloading..

Seriously, have I missed something ? Otherwise.. Nothing to see here....

PK

What can't the iPod do?

[Chuck Bucket]

Amazing what a little opening of the hardware allows for people to do with this little thing that was originally meant to just play music and be a modern day Walkman. Now it's this swiss army knife of the 21st century. With success like this it still boggles the mind that Apple computers don't catch on the same way. Flame me if you will, but if Apple just sold a computer for 600$ I think it would catch fire like the iPod has.

CB*(#$@@!@

Re:What can't the iPod do?

[funkdid]

The Emac is pretty cheap, even the new Imac is pretty damn cheap if you think about it. 64bit chip, 17 inch (Apple) LCD. All for around $1200. That's not bad at all. All the software you need built into the OS (for the average user, think grandma, an uncle etc. and all of it quality).

Re:What can't the iPod do?

[Anonymous Coward]

Apple computers did catch fire actually, back in 2001.

Re:What can't the iPod do?

[Chuck Bucket]

agreed, but again, the Dell/HP/Gateway commericals all hock 499$ PCs. Grandma isn't going to understand popping down an extra 5-600$ for a computer. Put out a eMac replacement; looks like the new iMacs, but has a G4 (G3?) in it, and get the price down to 500$ or so, then Grandma will be all set.

CBR$

Re:What can't the iPod do?

[Anonymous Coward]

First of all, this is not iPod specific.
Maybe the concept of people extending the use of something is new to you, or you are simply a iPod zealot (I will automatically get modded down as troll for that)

Either way, modification/changes/additions to electronic devices has always happened. Ever use a Sega Dreamcast, PSX, Xbox, DirectTV etc.... The few things around for the iPod are nothing compared to those.

Re:What can't the iPod do?

[bhima]

Actually it's simple to explain: "I don't support Windows"

Re:What can't the iPod do?

[Paulrothrock]

Many current switchers, according to chatter heard in Apple's Support Forums, have switched because of their experience with the iPod. Whether it was from walking into an Apple Store to buy an iPod and getting a chance to actually *use* a Mac, or seeing how much thought was put into the iPod, from how the scroll wheel accelerates to how rugged the design is to the neat way the backlight fades on and off.

If iTMS is a loss-leader for the iPod, then the iPod is a leader for Macs. I'm all for Apple making a headless eMac. But until they do the eMac, which is itself an incredibly capable machine for its price, will probably be the first Mac many people own.

Re:What can't the iPod do?

[BoneFlower]

What can't it do?

Pitch control and cue points. Add those two features, and apple will find a large market of DJs that will buy them. Hell, I'd put off upgrading my mixer if Apple added those two features. I'd have a good portable music player for the bus and whatnot, and a small device I can hook up to my mixer so I can use digital music files, stuff I rip off CD or my own productions that I can't afford to press to vinyl in my sets. And it would open up a large amount of music, especially futurepop, that is disgustingly difficult to find in any quantity on vinyl.

Re:What can't the iPod do?

[yoha]

apple's $600 computer IS an iPod.

Re:What can't the iPod do?

[radish]

Mixing with an iPod? You're serious right? Wow. No thanks. It's a much better idea to use something designed for the job. Check out Rane/Serato Scratch Live which allows you to play AIFF, WAV, MP3 (soon Vorbis) directly on your regular vinyl or CD decks. Feels exactly like vinyl, right down to scratching, juggling, backspins, poweroffs, etc. It even integrates with iTunes for all you Apple junkies.

Re:What can't the iPod do?

[radish]

if Apple just sold a computer for 600$ I think it would catch fire like the iPod has.


What makes you say that? The iPod follows Apple's other products in being (a) nicely designed (b) well built (c) very expensive. There are many competitors to the iPod, most of which offer additional features (of varying usefulness), and are cheaper (often very significantly). This is just like the PC market - Windows boxes are more numerous, usually not as well built/designed, but a lot cheaper. What surprises me is how the market seems to tolerate Apple's premium pricing for mp3 players but not for computers.

Re:What can't the iPod do?

[Kpt Kill]

"What surprises me is how the market seems to tolerate Apple's premium pricing for mp3 players but not for computers."

Perhaps they dont. Maybe thats why everyone is trying to get a free ipod! and if they already paid good money... well they should sign up for a creditcard so i can get one.

Re:What can't the iPod do?

[PsychoSpunk]

if Apple just sold a computer for 600$ I think it would catch fire like the iPod has.

No, you're thinking of that other story posted on slashdot

Re:What can't the iPod do?

[shrewmy]

So far outside of the whole storage capacity thing, my old Rio can do the same things!

oooh...

[ircubic]

My friends who use iTunes may be happy to hear about this. :D
Sounds like a neat piece of software

Re:A little bit offtopic : Some help needed.

[mhollis]

If you go to Versiontracker you will find lots of cool software for the iPod and for iTunes if you enter iPod in their search box.

this is new?

[CheetoNards]

looks like there have already been other programs designed to do this with itunes radio http://homepage.mac.com/swithers/iblog/C784421780/ E1012504207/ it seems like it should work with more than just the radio since it simply records audio being broadcast to the computer. Is this different is some way?

Adam Curry / Neal Stephenson connection

[kraksmokr]

This may be a bit offtopic, but does anyone remember Adam Curry's metaverse.com web site? He got that one after MTV took away mtv.com from him. This was way back in like 1993 or 1994. I believe he had just read 'Snow Crash'. Anyway, it's neat to see a celebrity become a geek (kind of like the pr0n star Asia Carerra!), but of course she looks better naked.

Re:Adam Curry / Neal Stephenson connection

[Anonymous Coward]

Yeah, so does this chick, complete with an iPod too!!

He still owes me a t-shirt

[Gumber]

Adam curry still owes me a t shirt for helping him get eudora working to retrieve mail from his pop-less shell account. Somehow, after a decade, I don't think I'm getting it.

I'll need to try iPodder. Maybe that'll made up for the lingering sense of betrayal.

Re:He still owes me a t-shirt

[Anonymous Coward]

Er, dude. Send me a mail so I know who you are. I don't remember the eudora instance, but it sounds like it could've been me.

adam@curry.com

Correct me if I'm wrong ...

[e1en0r]

... and I'm sure you all will, but I was under the impression that iPodder was a fancy automatic way of downloading MP3s, not converting streaming radio to MP3s and then storing on your iPod which is what this story seems to imply. It is not " the first portable time-shifted Internet audio application", it just "raises the prospect of truly portable time-shifted audio programming on the Internet". I believe Audio Hijack Pro will let you record streaming music, but iPodder looks like it just downloads MP3s.

Re:Correct me if I'm wrong ...

[cojsl]

"I believe Audio Hijack Pro will let you record streaming music" Audacity has worked on every audio stream I've tried, though without scheduling.

iPodder Marketing Team

[Anonymous Coward]

Check out the posting on IPodder.org from September 10th regarding their marketing team's work! Here's a direct link (NOT SAFE FOR WORK!)

Re:iPodder Marketing Team

[Anonymous Coward]

Hey fucker, posting that link is MY gig, not yours!! All the other posts in this thread (and other articles, go see) are MINE! Go to hell, shitbag! :)

Plus, you'll notice that mine go to the full page while yours suck cause they're only 1 image.

Adam Curry is my hero

[Stick_Fig]

You could tell, even in his prissy glam-metal heyday, that he was a smart one. He went from VJ to dot-com genius. I mean shit, you don't see Jesse Camp coming up with great ideas like this.
I mean, Matt Pinfield knew a lot about music, but there's a difference between trivia and usefulness. Way to go Adam.

Don't I Already Do This With MPlayer?

[Chaotic Evil Cleric]

How is this different from

mplayer -dumpaudio /stream/address

?

Re:Don't I Already Do This With MPlayer?

[jubei]

Also, the nice thing about mplayer is that it supports all those wacky transports like rtsp. You can use it with an encoder to make ogg or mp3 files from real or windows media files.

Mplayer, an encoder, cron, and a little scripting make the ultimate automatic program grabber. Many urls are generated by the date, so it is easy to script.

For straight mp3 broadcasts, check out streamripper, which can automatically cut the stream into songs, and label them with metadata sent in the stream. It might not work the best for stations that crossfade song transitions, though.

I imagine it wouldn't be hard to script something that followed RSS feeds and used wget to snag mp3's off the web, as well.

All of these tools are readily available for no cost and without built-in restrictions. Hurrah for free software!

May be more, but its NOT a newton

[nurb432]

Just try taking notes on your Ipod.. or trying to read a hand-drawn map on that tiny screen..

Sure the Ipod is great, and does several things, but its not a replacement for the trusty newt..

Now if could find a am/fm radio for mine.. i had to give that up when i finaly traded in my MD player for a 4G Ipod..

Re:A little bit offtopic : Some help needed.

[88NoSoup4U88]

Thanks all for the tips/replies.

What about Replay Radio

[chrisspurgeon]

Not taking anything away from iPodder, but I've been using a great little app called Replay Radio for a year or so to grab my favorite web radio programs and save them as MP3s, which I then dump into my iPod. Product details here

Re:What about Replay Radio

[whidbey island geek]

I tired using Replay Radio but it didn't want to work on a machine that I only access using Remote Desktop. Instead I ended up using Total Recorder. Unlike Replay, TR captures the stream before it goes in to the audio drivers thereby skipping the whole Remote Desktop issue. It uses it's own driver to decode the stream and then it uses whatever encoding you have loaded to save the file. It will also neatly build the ID3 tags as well. At the end of the weekend I have a nice collection of NPR programming to load on to my little white buddy and face the Monday morning commute.

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Re:What about Replay Radio

[valkraider]

Here is a clickable link for Total Recorder, a Windows app.

If you use a Mac you can try Audio Hijack.

Re:Don't poke the Gorilla!

[Blue-Footed Boobie]

Mmmmm....money....

Time-shifting?

[Chuck Bucket]

When I first read that I got ideas of a Hitchhiker's Guide show. Who needs a towel anymore if you have an iPod!

(it's funny, try to laugh! ;))

CB%^&*()

Let me get this straight

[HarveyBirdman]

So "time-shifting" with my iPod does not imply time travel?

Shit.

I thought I could just hit the button and turn the volume control to skip back a few minutes.

Re:Don't poke the Gorilla!

[Blue-Footed Boobie]

Hmm...fake action tags get stripped out... *counts the money he saved by getting his iPod from that "scheme"*

Yes.. TimeShifting!

[scrubmuffin]

Another fricking buzzword. Gotta love 'em.

My website is now rendering multi tiered aggregate content to strategize user-centric metrics while orchestrating scalable synergies utilizing virtual timeshifted content.

Somebody buy me..
Please?

Re:Yes.. TimeShifting!

[Anonymous Coward]

wow!

Is your real name CmdrTaco?

Re:Yes.. TimeShifting!

[scrubmuffin]

Credit where credit is due, I used
http://www.dack.com/web/bullshit.html to generate some of the description.

The First?

[Musicfan]

What the hell is this? I've been using Audio Hijack Pro to time-shift radio programs for what, 2 years now? How is this /.-worthy? Yet another audio recording app. Oh, but it's Adam Curry - well in that case, post it right away!

Newsflash - RMS takes world's first crap! Read it only on /.

I do this already with MythTV

[ripnet]

I have MythTV installed, with a WinTV Nova-T card (digital TV card) which allows me to schedule it to record radio straight from UK's freeview service. I then have a php script which re-encodes it using Lame into an archive directory, which I rsync each morning to my iRiver mp3 player...

Re:I do this already with MythTV

[Anonymous Coward]

...but none of that has to do with an iPod so it's not cool.

Give me pitch control....

[BoneFlower]

and I'll buy one.

open source alternative = radio record

[Anonymous Coward]

check it out on sourceforge.net

low impact and saves to mp3 files

Re:If ever there was a time

[Colonel Cholling]

Click away people, I need an iPod!

Dude, if you want a free iPod, just send me your bank account number and SSN. When I forward it my buddy the Prime Minister of Nigeria, he'll send you more than enough money to cover the cost of an iPod.

Re:A little bit offtopic : Some help needed.

[Luscious868]

Don't forget hymn. It allows you to convert protected AAC files that you purchase through the iTunes Music Store to unprotected AAC files that can be played back on any device, or with any piece of software, that supports AAC.

Just be sure to backup the original protected AAC file somewhere just in case. Oh and I wouldn't be sharing these unprotected files on any P2P service. It does remove the DRM, but it doesn't remove certain tags within the file (called atoms) that can uniquely identify the user who purchased it. There are other pieces of software available that can remove those, but I'm not going to post any links.

MOD PARENT UP

[Anonymous Coward]

He noticed a spelling error in the article summary!

Check for yourself, the last sentence of the summary of this article.

What is /. coming to?

MOD PARENT +1 INSIGHTFUL

[Anonymous Coward]

There is indeed a spelling mistake.

RE:OT Gorilla Poking!

[Paleomacus]

I just consider that "scheme" to be me getting paid for the uncountable hours of advertising I endure for entertainment; /., pre-Tivo TV, movie trailers, etc.

At least now I can remove the commercials(and boring stuff/bad songs) from my radio listening!

Damn you all!

[IronChefMorimoto]

Damn you, TiVO!

Damn you, iPod!

Damn you...HTPCs running MythTV!

Damn all of you timeshifting bitches!

I'm perfectly miserable...er...content doing something else entirely while I tape a satellite TV program on my shitty Sony VCR for 2 hours -- just to get a documentary that I'm too lazy to sit through for that particular 2 hours. I don't need to watch another TV program while that tapes. I can...um...work on my whittling skills. So fuck y'all.

I'll see that Discovery Channel special with the humping lions tomorrow. Wait...no...I have to tape 3 hours of primetime programming then. Shit. When can I...HEY! Are you timeshifting asshats laughing at me? FUCK YOU! You have no idea what you're doing to live programming with your evil technology! And I KNOW you totally missed the ASS CLOWN BUD LIGHT COMMERCIAL WHEN YOU TIVO'D THE SUPER BOWL! HAHAHA! THERE YA GO, YA TIMESHIFTING MOTHERFUC---

Shit. I only have a 120 minute tape, and I have 300 minutes of programming. I'll be back in a minute to cuss you f---ers out.

IronChefMorimoto

Re:Don't poke the Gorilla!

[Anonymous Coward]

well i got mine from the pyramid scheme (the mini) and trying now for the 20gb one. if any of you are interested, help yourself and me for my second ipod by clicking here

Adam Curry

[Anonymous Coward]

back in 1994-95 I had Adam Curry's email address and sent him a long email talking about how cool he was and how MTV did him wrong, how he was awesome on head bangers ball... basically glorifying him.

then at the bottom I added, "ps, you're a big fag"

it was awesome.

honestly though Adam is pretty cool.

We get it already

[PDubNYC]

How many times are you going to repeat the same request for a feature that is virtually useless to all but a few thousand (maybe a few hundred) iPod users, those being iPod DJs?

Granted I have only caught 2 times within this thread so far, but I'd wager that these are not your first posts on the subject.

Non-revolutionary?

[rasterboy]

Yeah, I know, it's nothing new, the whole automating the pulling down of content. What's really important is that a framework is being established. RSS is getting more and more popular by the day, and if producers of audio content get it together, and produce RSS feeds with enclosures pointing to the audio files, it becomes *extremely easy* for developers to write apps to handle that content, and *extremely easy* for users to get that content - automatically!

Adam knows he's not a brilliant programmer. He's a frustrated developer, who is really trying to kickstart this whole thing by enticing others to write better code than his, which is happening. It made me release my crappy perl code, and prompted others to start similar projects.

Heck, this is the Apple section of /. right? Remember "easy of use" is somewhere near the top of the list for some people.

I do this with my x-box

[xjerky]

With X-Box Media Center. I sometimes leave my box on all night and let it dump a bunch of streams to my HD, then I load 'em up on my iPod later to see if I like 'em.

How Come?

[SomeOtherGuy]

How come whenever anyone does anything trivial that has anything to do with an Ipod...that it is reported like world peace?

Recording streams have been around as long as streams themselves....I guess it was not a big deal until someone with an Ipod started recording streams.

Next we will read about "Ipod owner creates Hello World" and a "tetris clone".

Good news everyone!...

[Stopmotioncleaverman]

...we're off to the tempest nebula to gather chronotons! And there's me thinking this was some Farnsworthian device capable of stretching the very fabric of time itself! *clenches fists and glares heavenward*

StationRipper?

[Anonymous Coward]

*shrug* I've been using StationRipper for the last few months. Gets about 2000 new songs a day, for new stations. Rips shoutcast and iTunes...

I don't know...

[zombiestomper]

I think it's going to take some serious time-shifting to make Adam Curry popular again.

"New"? Audio Hijack is at least two years old.

[Anonymous Coward]

Ditto Audio Hijack. I have over two years of timeless previously-streamed audio programs -- captured using Audio Hijack/Pro in MP3 or Apple Lossless -- on my iPod, iMac, DVDs ...

Whats new?

[genixia]

...apart from the "Apple!" and "iPod!" headlines?

Seriously, I'm surprised that Steve Jobs can still sh1t given all the slashdotters clambering up his pipe.

Crime without punishment 101

[Xenna]

Gee mr. policeman, someone must've hacked my PC and copied all my music files. I really didn't upload them myself...!

In case your internal Thesaurus is slow

[Microsift]

female-dog (why the hyphen?) = bitch.

If you don't like the word bitch, try "complain"

Replacing a word with the wrong definition of the word is sexing stupid!

Streamers for OS X

[christor]

If you're interested in having various streamed radio programs (like BBC, NPR, etc.) on your iPod, you may want to check out Streamers for OS X. (Disclosure - I'm the author.) Using Ambrosia's WireTap, iCal, and iTunes, it allows you to keep a library of shows to be recorded and to schedule recordings. Just be sure to drag the app itself, and not the folder that contains it, into your Applications folder. The way I packaged the last build has caused a few users some confusion on this score.

It's freeware; source is included; and I've just put up a sourceforge site for it.

Re:A little bit offtopic : Some help needed.

[Anonymous Coward]

This is a great tool that everyone should use with his iPod. Highly recommended!!

Care to try iPlodder out with a new feed?

[Anonymous Coward]

http://www.zontals.org/freemix/rss.xml Enjoy!

Shifted drifted and wake up iPodsheeple

[tomwhore]

http://hublog.hubmed.org/archives/000870.html

#!/usr/local/bin/perl

use LWP::Simple;

$webjay = get('http://webjay.org');
while ( $webjay =~ m|href\=\"(.*?)\"|igs ){
if (( $1 =~ m|^(http://webjay.org/by/.*?/.*?)$|i )
&& ( $1 !~ /#comments/i ))
{ push @playlists, $1 }
}

$play = rand(scalar(@playlists));
exec "open $playlists[$play].smil";

Re:Shifted drifted and wake up iPodsheeple

[Anonymous Coward]

interestingly, the very first comment for this article is:
"It would be good to hook this up with some kind of preferences or RSS-type functionality."

hello world?

[vaporland]

uh, they did hello world on curry's website too!

Good idear

[hugg]

I had a similar idea a few months back, when I realized I was spending 10+ hours per week sitting in my car or on the Metro. I just wish I had more choices than NPR, RIAA, or AM radio. I like the idea of XM radio, but it doesn't work underground and doesn't have the variety that the web can provide. I'd rather listen to kooky bloggers commenting on micro-issues than another 10-minute summary of what Big Media thinks important. It'd also be a great way to get exposed to new independent artists.

If there was a system that had a 2-hour program assembled from various feeds personalized to my taste (maybe even a printout to read along, and view pictures) then I'd be on board. My weekly magazines only last a couple days on the subway.

Missing the point

[xombo]

A lot of people aren't reading the site and realizing what this technology is about:

1) The program uses encapusization in RSS feeds to grab media from timely updated web sites.
2) The program stores the media and transfers it to the iPod by way of iTunes.

It does not "record broadcasts from streams" any more than using Kazaa to download videos allows you to fast-forward through the boring bits in porn.

Essentially it expands on new RSS tools that give media sites the ability to post recently updated media resources.

Why is this news?

[PrintError]

Seriously. I've been ripping streams with StreamRipper for 2-3 years now. How is this any different?

Umm...

[FredFnord]

Well, I don't know about him, but I walk to work. And a fair amount of my walk is in 'not-so-good-radio-reception' territory.

-fred

Now I see...

[FredFnord]

Now I see what I'm missing by not having a TV.

It's not the programs. It's the opportunity to be a curmudgeon about something besides computers.

-fred

MOD ME UP - Link not work-safe!

[Llama_STi]

Although it's not work-safe, it's still a nice one to check out at home. But shit, I just got burned... :(

Oh well, as long as I'm burning, might as well stick around and browse a bit... ;D

Content?

[LanMan04]

A neat tool, I got it working after some initial confusion (talk about lack of documentation, that is part of software development, you know), I found the content to be...err...lacking.

I mean, as much as I like listening to IT babble all day, I get enough of that at work, and after work, and with my friends, etc. Sure would be nice if NPR, or CNN, or any new site not related to hard-core IT or crazy eclectic blogging supported RSS 2.0 with enclosures....

What iPodder is!

[RaySl]

iPodder and like scripts is just a method of getting new content onto your iPod or MP3 playing device. Nothing more. Its not rocket science, just just a needed tool.

RSS is just an XML file, one of the tags is an enclosure tag, that tag specifies a link to an MP3 file of a new audio program that the author has posted online.

When the iPodder aggregator is run it checks for new MP3 files and downloads them into a playlist (Windows Media, iTunes, ect) that you can later sync up to a portable player.

Why is this needed? hell that should be simple for anyone using an aggregator at all. Its just easier to have this stuff come to you then for you to go out and be on the look out for new 'IT Conversations' or 'The Daily Source Code' episodes.

Yes the concept is simple, and very basic but it didn't exist before, so this fills a hole that a lot of listeners to these types of shows really needed.

After reading some of the comments about iPodder, I was more than a little confused on how so many people could wrap their heads around what iPodder does, I hope this helps (sorry that is late in coming)