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Stern Will Jump To Sirius In 2006
UnanimousCoward writes "Howard Stern announced it on his current radio show, and several feeds including this CNET article are reporting that Stern has signed a multi-million dollar multi-year contract with Sirius Satellite Radio starting in January, 2006. As I've watched technology grow from the time I was listening to Stern in the eighties, I can't wait to hook into a shockjock-timeshifted-podcast..."
How does this affect my rights online?
And this involves our rights online how? Even with the censorship of Clear Channel and the FCC.....
We need a simple "Rights" section, although I don't know if this even qualifies for rights period....
Just news...
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Fascinating. Next story, please.
Just look at the breasts on this first post!!
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Up yours FCC!
and this is YRO... how?
I can see the FCC connection, but I doubt that was his main motivation when the words "multi-million dollar" are used.
Okay, here's the question: Can the FCC fine Sirus stations like they can regular ones? Since it's private, they can't, right?
Howard Stern's radio show drops 80% of his male audience ages 18-35.
I'm thinking this is because you can't really articule a 'blur'
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On XM Radio and its founder. Very interesting discussion of how they are gonna kill the Clear Channel republican monopoly. I for one am almost about ready to go out and buy one even though I cant stand Stern...
...now we will have crap raining from space? Sounds like a solution to the space station junk problem.
Doesn't XM have a bigger Market Share? Why did Stern Pick these other guys?
This may be a good thing for Sirius, but it seems to have made the stock market go stupid. The price of Sirius stock -- already overpriced IMHO -- jumped a billion dollars on the news. Later it dropped to half a billion. but that's still nuts. The Motley Fool did an article on it. I don't care for Howard Stern, but even if you think he's the greatest thing since sliced bread, what could he possibly say on the radio that would increase the value of the company by that much?
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Howard stern occasionally has a funny moment, but 99% of the time hs is like listening to a 13 year old ramble with his buds like a horny teenager that just discovered his puberty...
he is just mostly stupid...
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I recently moved out of the city area to live in a cleaner part of town. This has made my commutes to work longer. The radio reception sucks out by my house. Sirius is becoming an attractive option. The programming variety looks awesome!
...earlier today the FCC put in an order to Raytheon for 100 ASAT suitable missiles.
does this mean that now he can say SHIT, and FUCK, and other such offensive words that us americans are too sensitive to hear? i hope he starts off his new show at sirius with the dirtiest joke ever told on any broadcast medium.
Swansong for Stern. I doubt as many of Stern listeners as predicted will plunk down their hard earned cash to listen to him. He is definetly #1 now, but that is sure to disappear once you have to pay to listen.
If there is any jumping to be done, he'll make Bababooie or one of the other freaks do it.
There are a couple of issues that have to be considered now that Howard Stern will become a Sirius satellite-only show:
1. Will fans pony up the big bucks for a Sirius satellite radio receiver and pay the monthly fee just to hear Stern? Remember, unlike XM satellite radio, Sirius is still quite rare as pre-installed on new cars.
2. Will Stern be unfettered by censorship and take the show to extremely raunchy levels of sexual descriptions and use of raunchy language?
Despite Sirius getting NFL broadcasts, they're still way behind XM in terms of public recognition.
What is this? If I want to read this crap, I will go read e-tv.com. Or is this another one of those paid advertisement stories?
With the recent announcements of big name talk show hosts including stern going to sirius I'm becoming a little irritated with XM's love fest with the automobile industry. I cant get a Sirius module for my stereo so it's all intergrated and would be forced to buy a stand alone unit to plug into the aux jack..
However this is good news for sirius.
OK, that out of the way, here is how I see it. First of all, it's a very novel solution to this whole "FCC is censoring people" stuff (which I don't believe, but that's a matter of opinon). I never would have thought of that. I wonder if any other shock jocks follow suit. Makes sense though. XM has a Playboy channel (I have no idea what's on it), so obviously they aren't subject to those kinds of fines. I wonder how substantially his program will change now that he's free to say and do whatever he wants. And I wonder if Sirrius will have any kind of limits or leash on what he can do.
As for moving to Sirrus, they've got to love that. As the article says, their stock jumped 15%. While I've never listened to Stern, the fact that I know who he is without having to read an article or something like that says he's popular (or contravertial, but in this case both). I bet this will do some great things for Sirrus's membership (although it might drive a few away on idological grounds, but I doubt more than a handfull). I have to wonder if there was any kind of bidding war between Sirrus and XM (which my family has a subscription to). I would think having a radio celeb go sat-radio only would be something XM would have liked to be a part of. This should also lend an air of credibility to the idea of sat-radio, if a big star did this.
On a side note, YRO never seems to have anything to do with Online any more. Why not just rename it "Your Rights"? Just a thought. Don't bother commenting on this part.
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opie and anthony > howard "hoo-hoo" stern ANYDAY!
xm over sirius anyday.
This might move me to buy a Sirius box.
The Stern show, despite all the acres of whining you'll see posted here in the next hour, is entertaining. It's genuinely entertaining, and it's on for 4-5 hours a day during what is usually a miserable commute for a couple hundred million people.
It's astonishing how many people will latch on to Tipper Gore's bleatings from a decade ago in order to think that they're somehow more moral than thou based on the radio they listen to.
So you don't listen to Howard Stern. Good for you, here's a cookie and a gold star for being able to stomach Morning Zoo radio or else Opie & Anthony style obscenity in lieu of titty chatter and New York kvetch-klatsches.
I'll see you in the store next year, buying a Sirius receiver once the FCC snuffs the last bit of original content from the already miserable airwaves.
A good reason not to subscribe to Sirius Satellite Radio........
When I first read the headline to this article I thought it was going to be Howard Stern was Paying Rutan a bunch of money to become the first civilian launched to star Sirius!
...I'll be using XM then. Shock jocks like howard give free speech a bad name...
For all you reactionaries out there, no, i would never suggest strict censorship over stern, nor anyone else. Now getting him cancelled because it's a stupid show, that i'd be behind that all the way.
It appears he'll get paid whether or not he attracts new listeners.
-Randy
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Here's what I said earlier:
"Over the last couple of years the Howard Stern show has become a staple of the morning, as common as my cup of coffee. So it's sad to hear that at the end his contract, my man Howard will be moving to Sirius radio. At $12.99 a month I'm not sure I want to take that on, plus I have to buy a weird radio with an antenna I have to lug around.
I blame it on the FCC, and I fail to see how a show that's been on the air for over 20 years is suddenly indecent. We, the people own the airwaves, not the corporations, not even the government. They license it on our behalf. How can anyone say with a straight face that the number 1 show in America violates American decency standards?
So maybe I'm a Howard geek because I know the words to the Sulu Dance and the Ba Ba Booey Star Wars theme. It doesn't matter. When I write a song I don't want to consider how appropriate or decent it is. This matter affects me, and it affects you too. Do something about it in 3 weeks."
The whole point of radio is that its free. There is no way I will buy a SIRIUS satellite receiver stereo AND pay for the monthly price of $12.95 for programming. Does he really think all the current listeners will switch to satellite and pay for programming JUST to listen to him? In my mind I see him losing a lot of listeners because of this.
Stern Will Jump To Sirius In 2006
You know, even if he jumps to Alpha Centauri, not many of us would miss him.
I just went over to howardstern.com and WHAM right on the very front page is an ad for...if you guessed Sirius you'd be wrong! Nope, it had an ad for Xm radio!
Oh...the irony...
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Has Howard Stern done anything since he had that movie about himself? I mean, seriously, who do you shock? Hooray, he gets on "uncensored" radio. It's just going to end up a radio version of stileproject.com. Meh.
Shutting down free speech with violence isn't fighting fascism. It IS fascism!
Thta's your right as a consumer, go ahead and exercise it.
I expect you're the type who thinks that ANYTHING he doesn't like is stupid. And the millions who make Stern #1 in almost every market across the US, they must be stupid blue collar shitheads, right?
You know, it's idiotic shit like this that makes me nuts about America. Just because you don't like something doesn't make it offensive, doesn't mean it should be outlawed, and doesn't mean it's "stupid." You should be RALLYING for Stern to stay on the radio because it's YOUR RIGHTS as an American you're forfeiting otherwise.
I don't condone abortion, but I'm pro-choice.
I don't condone flag burning, but I certainly support the right to do it.
Catch my drift, Mr. Didactic?
Now I have a reason to get Satelite radio...in 2006 ;)
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If there's any slashdotters out there that are familiar with Opie and Anthony and are fans, I would hope you agree with me on this. OnA went from WNEW 102.7 in New York to national syndication in 2001, and after almost a year, they were "taken off the air" because of a stunt where a couple had sex in St. Pats Cathedral and got arrested (too many details to write it all but do some googling and you'll find out about it). FCC and a lot of conservative groups had a fit about it so they weren't fired, they were paid to sit out their contract.
Their contract expired this past week and they debuted over on XM.
Now here's the kicker, they are superior to Stern. You might say "But they're just Stern ripoffs!" I will give Stern credit that he really created the shock-jock style but his comedy is stale and I haven't laughed at his show in over 10 years. OnA are hilarious day in and out. Stern was a morning show, OnA were afternoon drive. He felt so threatened by them that he had a gag order put out so they couldn't even say his name. After all the crap he dished out to people over the years and he couldn't take it if someone said his name? Gimme a freakin' break!
Now Stern is moving to Sirius. I look at it in 2 ways. The first is that he's moving to Sirius because OnA are now on XM and he is threatened they are in a market he's not. Secondly, this is the best thing that will ever happen. Why? Because I won't turn on the radio and accidentally hear his show.
I really wish Stern would retire already. Stern's career was hot in 1989, it's no longer hot in 2004. He's hanging on by threads. OnA are on XM because the FCC won't let them on terrestrial radio, Stern is going on because he's trying one last stunt.
People like Stern have to move to pay radio or face the arbatrary wrath of the Fedrel Censorship Commision. XM radio and Sirrus are free of the thumb of Michael Powell for the moment. (I am sure he will find some excuse to regulate them.)
From what programming I have heard on XM, I may have to subscribe. The radio comedy broadcasts alone are worth the money. (They run Firesign Radio, National Lampoon Radio Hour, Dr. Demento and more.)
I guess the only thing that stops me is that it would cut into my BBC radio listening time.
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I was so thrilled to hear my subscription dollars are used to bring Howard Stern to Sirius. I may actually listen to him, but not intentionally. They also have a 24x7 Elvis station, too. With the debt Sirius has I was perplexed they threw millions at Stern, perhaps hoping to lure more customers. Maybe so, I wonder if they'll license his broadcasts to radio, tho. I can't imagine the average Stern fan being happy that they'd have to subscribe to Sirius to listen to Mr Stern. I'm not happy I miss a lot of things on pay TV, such is life.
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No, hold on... You mean the satellite service.
Never mind...
But that's kind of a big risk...
Howard Stern currently has an audience of 12 million listeners.
( according to yahoo )
Is Sirius really expecting (at least) 8% of his audience to buy the equipment and subscribe just for Howard Stern?
Sirius is a great place for Stern. It gets it out of the public media where it never belonged, and gives Sirius a chance to not be Serious.
I don't like Stern, but that doesn't mean he needs to be silenced. This mates listeners that want his flavor of media with a private provider. Now if they could just get Rush off of AFN and onto Sirius......
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The real issue here is that Howard Stern's show should have reached Sirius over 13 years ago! Oh, you meant Sirius the radio network...
There is still an XM ad on his webpage...
Once again, technology and bad taste combine to make the public's dreams a reality.
Si tacuisses philosophus mansisses. If you had kept quiet, you would have remained a philosopher.
This was never about free speech.
Some ass has a tv/radio show that has a sole purpose of acting 13 years old and humiliating women.
Do you want to protect every such ass, or just the rich ones?
Okay, so we know your opinion. I don't find him funny either. A lot of other people do. What's the big deal? You might as well a start an argument on which is the better colour: blue or red.
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You should rent the movie Private Parts. It tells the story of Howard Stern's early career and how he came to be the oft-hated guy he is today. He wasn't always a shock-jock. And if you think the movie is nothing but swearing and boobs, you'd be completely wrong. It's an actual, according-to-Hoyle, legitimate movie, and it gives you an insight into HS that you will not get just by listening to his show. You still probably won't like his show, but at least you'll know why he does what he does.
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Maybe some broadcast stations will switch to music in the morning now.
As a fan who listens to him every morning, TiVo's his E! show and goes to his Las Vegas Show every year to see him live; I welcome Stern moving to a form where no one can or will censor him. Let's face it, he is being targeted because he is Stern. The Stern Wannabe's get away with a lot more than he has ever tried, especially Latino radio (They do stuff that Stern would get multimillion dollar fines for).
All I know is, come X-Max of 2005, this kid is asking for a Sirius radio player.
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Howard Stern rules.
Aside from the NFL stuff they have, the music channels are pretty cool, the talk shows are cool, the service has been working great.
I think that this will do quite a bit to draw customers to them. THe Sirius units aren't that expensive. I spent $69.99 on one at Best Buy (Kenwood home unit) and it's been great for me.
They're also offering lifetime subscriptions right now, so if you don't like the monthly fee, there's another option.
I agree. I will catch him from time to time in the morning when I'm getting ready for work by throwing on the radio for a half hour or so, but I'm sure as hell not going to pay a monthly fee and buy ane expensive proprietary satellite radio to do it in 2006. I'll just listen to another morning program that's on AM or FM. No problemo.
The same applies to Opie and Anthony. I would've started listening again in a heartbeat if they would've got back on an FM network but I have zero interest in paying a monthly fee to listen to them on a proprietary XM radio.
Part of the reason is cost and part of it is I don't want to fuck around with my factory radio and lose the functionality of the integrated steering wheel controls I have by going to an aftermarket radio. I also don't want to lose my Onstar hookup which goes through the radio as well. Too many complicated features in these new cars to switch. rofl.
Blue. And if you don't think so you are a Bush supporter.
What the fuck does this have to do with the parent comment? Whether or not you enjoy listening to Howard Stern should have no impact on whether his show should be censored or not.
We're talking about freedom of speech, not the freedom to prevent others from enjoying something that you happen to dislike.
Of course, if by "over there", you mean australia, china, or europe, then you all have your own little gov't censorship issues to deal with, don't you?
Stern is jumping to satellite because the FCC and its christian corporate masters hounded him off FM. So much for free speech - satellite is pay-only. And if you think pay-as-in-beer guarantees free speech, ask the cable channels the FCC is now illegally enforcing into their jurisdictional scope.
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This is neither News for Nerds or Stuff that Matters. Stern is an ass and so is his audience.
I just find him too mean to be honest. It seems a lot of his humour comes from bullying people, like the mentally challenged, who can't really defend themselves. That's just my impression anyway. (Not that that means I think we should censor him or anything.)
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First off Sirius can be easily put into ANY car with a plug and play unit and these cost 100-150 for a complete package. 2nd 12.95 a mo for COMERCIAL FREE music plus many other great programs (NFL, Talk shows, comedy, etc) is a great deal. once you get it you will be hooked. 12.95 a mounth is just the cost of a meal at a restraunt these days, so im sure most people can afford it. 3rd sirius has GREAT programing, with talanted DJS. I had XM for over a year but finnaly switched to sirius. XM play obscure music that i dont know or like on there satations, the djs they have suck or they dont have DJS (CHEAP!) and they charge you for extra channels (playboy-which SUCKS by the way, o&a, and an extra 4 bucks a mo to listen online, while sirius does this FREE). XM is a rip off, Sirius is 100x better... listen for your self for free at sirius.com (XM dosent let you listen for free) like it or not, stern has millions of listeners and he will easily bring 3 millions subs to Sirius. This is a great move on sirius, they allready have many great names too (eminum, tony hawk, etc) Great job sirius! and I cant wait to see whats up for the future.
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Hold on a second.
I don't know if you mean US thing - are you Brit with the toilet humor; Russian with the outlawed gay humor; Australia with thumb up the crock's butt humor, and yes I am generalizing as the as you did because I don't really know each culture's humor - Howard has just a different humor. Like it or not it's the way it is.
However, you're missing a more important decision. Howard has been severally fined from the FCC and decided to leave over the air broadcast - it huge, go look at Siruis stock - it went up 18% today. He is leaving what he thinks to be censorship from OTA broadcast in favor of freedom to do as he wishes on the show. We'll see how it pans out in 2005.
I tend to agree with many other posters. How does Howard Stern's moving his radio show to another network have anything to do with on-line rights?
... maybe?
Does it deal with:
Money? Sure.
Exposure? Hell, we're talking about it.
A bonanza for Sirius? Guess so
I've only listened to Mr. Stern's show a few times, and saw the TV broadcast a few times. While not my idea of entertainment, one of my brothers is a big fan. I'm almost nearly certain he might run out in the next calendar year and perhaps purchase Sirius to listen to something he used to hear for free (in between the numerous commercials).
For YRO, this barely hits the radar IMHO. Has Mr. Stern been involved in some First Amendment case in front of the US Supreme Court, or ANY court, that I missed? Is this related to the FCC? Does this involve free speech?
I only vaguely recall an issue with his current broadcast network regarding Mr. Stern's uttering something ill advised, perhaps something defined as being one of those things not said on the US airways.
Long live the King. Ever since I first started listening to Stern on AM NYC radio in the 1980s, his arrival has been followed quickly by the demise of the medium, usually drowned in a sea of rightwing mediocrity. AM, FM drivetime, cable talkshow simulcasts, even the movies have seemed to go even further downhill since _Private Parts_, and the book's publication was part of paper publishing's deathrattle. I like Stern, and though many people think he's the Death of All Media (tastewise), I think he exploits each medium he conquers in new, unforseen ways (except the book, which was just funny). But apparently his (mostly rightwing) opponents seem to think "if that fool can do it bad, I can do it good", and then overrun his new territory. So does this latest announcement certify satellite radio's 2007-8 expiration date?
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Ok so I am a Howard listener and supporter. I have been carefully watching the two satellite providers for a while now. I've wanted to get sat radio to get a station that plays electronic music. Locally the only time I get to hear new electronic stuff is late saturday nights, and I am not always listenening to the radio. Now that stern has announced sirius my decision is made.
You can say what you want about Stern's crude humor, but I think the best part of his show is the interviews he does. He definitely has much more interesting interviews, and asks the questions other broadcasters don't have the nuts to ask. I don't think you can honestly say that his content is shocking. It's more shocking to me that Dr. Phil can portray a child as a serial killer on prime time tv and get away with that.
actually we are talking about a crappy radio guy getting fired by his employer.
Snowden and Manning are heroes.
This post says "I don't like Howard Stern, but wouldn't support censorship."
Insightful my ass.
Wanring: Rant ahead. Mod me down if you like, but it doesn't change the facts.
/.ers tend to protect their freedoms, witness the reaction to the PATRIOT Act.
It's really sad for me to read this. Not the article - the comments.
Slashdot peeps generally tend to be well educated and be very possessive of their rights. American
But any self-respecting American with any love for the bill of rights and their own liberties SHOULD be in support of Howard Stern. He embodies the freedom we founded our country on - he takes it to an extreme, which makes a point: we exercise freedom to different degrees because we are the land of the free. Well, were, before this administration.
Anyway, the saddest part are the comments that say "I never listened to Stern and think he's the scum of the earth," which is roughly equavalent to the ignorance of saying "I don't know any black people, but I dislike them all."
Listen and make up your own mind. Don't be worthless simps who THINK they know what Stern is about. I've listened to Stern for years. He pushes the boundary of what can be said on radio, but in ANY dorm in my college you could've found worse language every single night. The show is harmless and it's enjoyed by millions. Be a responsible parent to your kids and we won't have to scrub the airwaves and forfeit our freedoms.
This contributed exactly nothing to the thread... let's not mod him up because we don't like Howard Stern.
My biggest issue with Howard Stern is that he is really very intelligent but still chooses to do his show they way he does. Perhaps, he is simply captializing on the the "When Animals Attack" crowd and doesn't consider his own show as entertainment. That really only requires stooping to the level of a common politician or used car salesman, if you think about it.
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Apparently you have never heard of usenet. There are two groups I'm certain will remain active after January 2, 2006.
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One can already download today's show in mp3 format, with or without commercials, and I don't think that's going to stop after he jumps ship to Sirius radio. Maybe it'll turn Stern into the next Lars Ulrich, perhaps it'll stay below his radar.
Look, what REALLY made Stern popular was the curious balance he had between being married and constantly tempted; between the FCC and finding funny and unique ways to get around the rules. What has happened now is that all of what made him a unique curiousity is going away. His indulgence is going to ruin him and cause him to lose an audience.
His marriage is done, and for most of his listeners, sex isn't much of a mystery anymore. This was one item that a lot of both women and men admired him for - the fact that he didn't give in to temptation. That was the beginning of the end IMHO.
This gig on Sirius will probably start out dirty and 'controversial', and may even gain a few million listeners, but in the end it won't matter. It won't be censored - it won't be 'edgy' because without his fight against the station or the FCC, the REAL story behind Stern's success fades.
But go ahead, buy some Sirius stock...
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Go to howardstern.com right now, there is a massive XM radio banner on the home page... and he's been pluggin XM for some time... This has got to piss serius off
Simple fact..he has been doing this for 20+years and the results are tangible.
For all those puritanical snobs in the geek crowd, factor this into your presitine equations... Stern has done on radio what many of you SAY you want to do for free speech. What is this?
He has breathed actual Free Speech into the airwaves , he lives how others claim they want. The proof is 20+ years of broadcasts.
Meanwhile many of the puritanicals here and elsewhere simply pay free speech lip service in some pleasureless blow job.
Often I find puritanical geeks the first ones to cry for silencing a voice, for cleaning up what they find dirty, for forcing thier "correct" view on things simply because for another way to exist invalidates the "There Can Be Only One" morality they live by.
"We have factored in all variables and your views are simply unsound, so we must now force your views down"
YRO? Look around you. You think the only problems out there carry a Clear Channle biz card? You think all relgious zelots are Christian/Jewish/Islamic? You think only Bush and his ilk are wanting to burn books in this country?
Love him or hate him Stern has been swing the bat in the ballgame of Free Speech.
And lets not forget the other place he is heard everyday.. The Usenet Broadcasting Network.
(podcasting....ummm is this another nameshifting apple thing for something folks have been doing for years already?)
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I don't care for Howard Stern, but even if you think he's the greatest thing since sliced bread, what could he possibly say on the radio that would increase the value of the company by that much?
It's not what he says, it's what he's doing. Stern is probably in the top 5 radio superstars (Stern, Rush, Imus - OK, top 3).
He's going to Sirius for free speech. This is like cable TV for radio - they're creating a whole new market not subject to the FCC Puritanical Code and Stern is validating the business model. Cable TV would have been a good investment in 1977.
This may also get enough momentum behind Sirius that XM goes away, at which time they'll take over the whole market. Time will tell, but this is big for Sirius - or at least a billion dollars worth of people think so.
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Somewhere in space, one group of aliens just started laughing uproariously. Another group of aliens started shaking their heads in bewilderment. A third group just starting petitioning the GCC (Galactic Communication Commission) to get this offensive alien voice off the radio waves emanating from this backward, blue planet in the bad part of the galaxy.
GCC contacts the Vogons...
Stern Will Jump To Sirius In 2006
I have a feeling that if someone from 1956 read this headline, they would imagine to mean something like:
"Dateline 2006 - Captain Stern of the Space Patrol will attempt on Saturday to jump the 500 Parsecs from Planet Earth to the Star Sirius using his newly invented Atomic Graviton Boots."
yuck-yuck...
Your hybrid is not saving the environment. Its purpose is to make you feel good about buying something.
He has power in the industry. He is not just a 'shock jock' anymore. He has an empire, and he is taking it to sirius.
People who understand the insutry know that he has a strong possibility to build a stronger industry.
They gave him 3 channels to program.
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If you want a bully, try Tom Leykis. Meaner than Stern, but then also way smarter. Total asshole bully. But then, he gets chicks to get naked for him, and he's old, fat, and ugly!
Opie and Anthony have returned on XM. Stern now announces to move to Sirius.
;)
For O&A it was a matter of survival, not preference. The radio industy is controlled by 2 companies and once your fired from 1, the other is all you have and Clear Channel did not want to risk O&A. Well Stern has no love for clear channel and CBS well... lets just say that he could have stayed right where he is. However the truth is that Stern is getting old and Sirius to him probably means a bigger paycheck.
The governemnt is out of control, we all know this. For Stern this move will be a blessing for his wallet and his peace of mind. I personally am happy for him. Let him ride out the rest of his radio carear on his own terms, doing the show he wants without the FCC up his ass.
Media here in America is a 6 headed monster corperation that shits on us daily. Obviously Sterns large audience and following allows him freedoms. The rest of us listeners though are fucked. We have no leverage against the corperations. Dare i say the only leverage we have is folks like Howard Stern who dare say something when given a mic. Just hope someones listening.
As for Opie and Anthony... The virus is back! XM or your local alt.binaries.opieandanthony
I could care less where stern goes. I don't like his garbage or anything he has to say. Yes, unlike some, I have listened to his show to make my own judgement on it's contents, unlike a lot of people who will complain about something, but never read/saw/heard the source. That being said, I could care less WHAT he says, but I care greatly that he has the RIGHT to say it. He is simply exercising his RIGHTS of freedom of speech. I am exercising my freedoms by turning him off. I don't understand why people think we have to be "protected" from acts such as stearn. The government thinks that the bulk of the populus is so stupid that they need to be coddled. Screw that. Once you make a law that ucerpts(sp) freedom of speech, you do the same thing that some have done with the 2nd amendment. Ok, ban certain words, then a few years later, ban a few more that are "just like" those that we banned earlier and so on. It CLEARLY states in the First amendment: "Congress shall make NO LAW........" how hard is that to understand? NO LAW, means NO LAW....period, end of arguement! Let Stearn or anyone like him do whatever he/she wants on the "commerical public" airways (within the bounds of the stations license), if there is a market, more power to him/her. If not, the show will wither and die. If he wants to move to satellite/subscription radio more power to him. His life, his rules...if the broadcaster doesn't like that, then he can find one who will allow his brand of humor. I won't object one little bit. I could care less. I don't like his "humor", but he's free to spew it.......I just turn off the radio or change the station. Doesn't bother me if he's on the radio...I won't be shocked, I don't need to be "protected". I just don't listen.
Stern show is a killer app because I can listen to it on the way to work in my car, at home, or in my work truck...all for free.
Also now that he can say what he wants, I think the show won't be as funny, sort of like how the ozzborn family has the beeps, sort of just makes the show they way they have to say stuff.
Maybe it's a USian thing, but over here most guys grow out of this sort of humour round about the time their balls drop, and most girls don't like it at all.
Benny Hill ??
assuming both of you are equal twits, he posted using his user name and you posted AC which makes you a pussy too.
YHBT. YHL. HAND.
I admire Howard Sterm. I don't alwyas agree with him politically but I do admire the guy.
Basically though, I'm just bored with him.
Scott
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"And the millions who make Stern #1 in almost every market across the US, they must be stupid blue collar shitheads, right?"
actually they perfer to be called white trash or perhaps on occasion, "cracker"
but then again i know lots of university professors, who absolutely love a good fart joke or a dog singing xmas carols.
bwahahahahaha just thinking about how funny and clever pretending to be someone else on the phone is!! and how FUNNY it is to call a person because his last name is BUTTS. hahahahaha... it has made me soil myself!!! your absolutely right!!
Yes, I know Captain Sternn. And never did there live a kinder, more generous man. He is an overflowing cup, filled with the very cream of human goodness ...
...... and he's ah, never done anything illegal ...
... unless you count all the times he sold dope disguised as a nun!! ...
... of the Federation, and, and ...
... a community-concious individual, ah, ah ...
...... in all the time I've known him, he's never done anything immoral
unless maybe the Pre-Schooler's Prostitute ring
He's always been a good, law-abiding citizen
Awww, gimme a break!!
Shut Up! Shut Up! Shut Up!
STERNN!!!
He's nothin' but a low-down, double-dealin', back-stabbin', larcenous, perverted worm!!
Hangin's too good for him!!
Burnin's too good for him!!
He should be torn into little bitsy pieces and buried alive!!!
I'll kill him!
KII - ILLL!!!
The cable industry is big. BIG. Think comcast, think time/warner, these are media giants, and they make a lot of money on what some people consider porn.
The porn industry is huge; it may dwarf Hollywood, in fact.
So if congress comes sniffing around to "protect the children", they'll be doing so without their corporate overlords blessing, which means nothing will happen.
Its a side effect of rampant capitalism, but I love my porn!
Love or hate Howard Stern, it's the people who push the limits of free speech that help ensure those freedoms aren't taken away.
Remember Voltaire: I may not agree with what you say, but I'll defend to the death your right to say it.
I used to listen to Stern when I was younger, but what really turned me off was the weeks on end that he'd spend hawking his latest book, or the "Private Parts" movie, or whatever. So what if Sirius is commercial free? Tune in to Stern and you'll get three hours worth of commercials for whatever he feels like selling you. I don't doubt that he'll spend the last month of his current contract telling his fans to sign up for Sirius.
Breakfast served all day!
I've heard him. In my opinion, he's purile, insulting, egotistical and in general, an ass.
Turns out, being an ass is legal. I don't like his show, I won't listen to him, but he ABSOLUTELY has the right to do what he does.
Isn't it funny how many people (not the poster I'm responding to, tho) only want freedom of speech as long as they agree with it?
"Faith: Belief without evidence in what is told by one who speaks without knowledge, of things without parallel." - A.B.
"In 1992 the FCC fined Infinity Broadcasting $600,000 after Stern discussed masturbating to a picture of Aunt Jemima."
"Is that better or worse than asking a Nigerian woman if she eats monkeys, or hosting a discussion of whether, when you have sex with a black woman, it smells like watermelons? I guess you can argue that point, but I'd be a lot more impressed with Stern's defenders if they'd quote these comments verbatim in the process of defending him."
Perhaps someday, you will be able to reach deep, deep down and find your inner adult.
Until then, do you feel that a naked person smeared with excrement and buggering a dead muskrat in public counts as Art, and should be protected as Speech? How about if the Artist writes poems on the muskrat's genetalia with a soldering iron?
That's all speech, right, and deserves to be protected?
I mean, I'm sure the people who wrote the bill of rights and the constitution wanted to make sure that muskrat-buggering soldering-ironers were protected from narrow minded repression by the sheeple of the future.
/sarcasm
> It's an actual, according-to-Hoyle, legitimate movie, and it gives you an insight into HS that you will not get just by listening to his show.
It's an actual, according-to-Stern, movie. He gave himself a blow job in a book and Hollywood thought it would be great to turn it into a movie. Self-serving isn't the beginning of what Private Parts was.
I hear that Larry Flynt is free speech's biggest hero too, at least according to another Hollywood movie.
You want to know who isn't running Firefox 2.x? They spell it "definately" and "rediculous".
He 'stoops' to that level because that's what he enjoys. Intelligence doesn't lead to taste.
Bah. I like listening to Stern (when the staff isn't bickering back and forth and he's not bitching and moaning for an hour at a stretch), but I'm not going to pay for my radio; it goes against my principles. I wonder how long his show will be when they strip out the commercials?
-Rich
podcast
Can we *please* stop working the not-so-subtle iPod references into every story that involves music, DRM, copyright, digital broadcasting, or portable hardware? It's really getting old, and the readers are starting to wonder just how much Apple is paying for product placement.
Either stop it, or highlight stories that have been bought and paid for by advertisers in a different color, like Google's ads.
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Stern sucks. Detroit's seen all these guys come and go and, so far as I recall, the only one that didn't completely suck was Steve Dahl. Steve liked to cause trouble and he managed to be funny without sounding like one of those retards I couldn't stand even back in Jr. High. Even after he left Detroit he was one of the first to do the syndication thing, beaming in from the LUP in Chicago. He and Buzz Kilman have it all over anything Stern has done (and done, and done, and done again) in the two decades since.
Let me get this out of the way first.
I've been listening to Howard since he came on in Philadelphia (where I lived all my life). He used to be funny and original 10 years ago, now it's just a big whine fest; What made him famous and rich is now getting him fined and all he does is cry about! This all about his wallet, nothing more. Over the last 5 years how times has he said "that's it I'm quitting!", well quit already then. Does he? No, because he wants to get paid.
gotta a light for my Sig?
Stern wasn't fired. He quit.
"Well kids, you tried your best, and you failed. The lesson is, never try."
Took an american studies class back in college, we did a critical comparison of 'Miss America' to 'The Great Gatsby'. While I agree with you Howard is capable of only one joke, I don't think you've found it yet.
The whole reason for people's interest in Howard is that he is always something other than how he presents himself. He comes off as a juvenile, but he is also a shrewd businessman. He comes off as a pervert, but he was married and had a family for over 20 years. He loves the low-brow humor, but also engages in serious political commentary. He provokes the worst from people, but also manages to keep a strong core audience. It's impossible to have a well-defined concept of him without contradiction, which is at the root of people's fascination with him.
People like to know who other people are, you like to be able to count on something from the people around you. Howard Stern's ability to change his persona is what makes him more than a crass boob joke, the joke is that he can be many different people and move so easily from one 'type' of person to the other.
M
This is all a sideshow that obscures what's really going on. Media consolidation has been going on for decades, and when you're talking about broadcast, there are only a handfull of companies deciding what America sees on TV and hears on the radio. The advent of satellite radio is good in that it widens the number of media owners, but we still have a long way to go in the United States if we ever want to get a truly useful Fourth Estate.
Of course, we will never get good media until we reward good journalism with our hard-earned dollars. In the mean time, we get what we buy with our viewing and listening habits.
Read the EFF's Fair Use FAQ
The American state is a nanny state in all the wrong ways. Kudos the Stern for for shifting the game into commertial speech, the only free speech in the good ol'USA.
Internet/Slashdot is also free speech for the same reason each party must pay for access.
Combining a slashdotter with a Stern fan has got to produce the most annoying kind of human that ever existed :-)
"In Soviet Russia, Bababuoy!"
Table-ized A.I.
looking for some slashdot wisdom here. first off, I am not familiar with the workings of satellite radio like XM and Sirius. I am also not very familiar with Stern's show, although that's beside the point.
the part I am unclear on is this:
Would Stern do his show at time X for N hours, with the show playing live, then followed by a re-airing, repeated until the next live show?
or is this an on-demand tivo time-shift thing, where someone would tune in at whatever time and be able to hear the show from the beginning?
Now I don't have to worry about stumbling across him on radio. Now if we can just get him off E!...or better yet, get rid of E!
Good riddance.
Fata viam invenient.
I think Howard Stern is making a good move to show his appriciation to censorship reform. He is moving his broadcast to a format where he can say and do all the things he used to be able to do and not get fines slapped on him or risk the FCC revoking his parent stations license.
However there is a downside which is the obvious fee you have to pay in order to listen. Some people are diehard fans, others not so much. I think the real thing to look for is whether his moves kicks off a trend among other Talk Show Hosts.
I would like to add that I believe the FCC censors what you say to much when it comes to on air broadcasts. Here is the kicker....
The new show directed toward women called Desperate Housewives showed things on cable television that on air DJ's can't even describe. They are not allowed due to FCC regulation. Seems kinda one-sided that a female driven show can get away with showing scenes that children can actually see but a man driven radio talk show can't even describe the acts.
It just goes to show you who is in control in the end. Between hardcore feminists applying pressure in all the right places, the male market of radio broadcasting is getting the shaft left and right. When you have to walk on egg shells to avoid fines and have your producer ready to hit the dump button any chance they get, that is when you know the rights the first amendment upholds are being wrongfully ignored.
Some people say what Howard Stern, Tom Leykis and other radio talk show hosts say are lewd, discriminatory and raunchy. However they are technically empowered to say such things so long as it doesn't fall under the lines of slander.
More importantly if you don't like it, change the station. No one is forcing you to listen. In fact the ultimate act of rebellion against a DJ you don't like is to not listen. It hinders their ratings. Then of course people bring up kids. I will say this... if you aren't monitoring what your kids are listening too then you are a crap parent and shouldn't have had a kid to begin with.
Lets not let the FCC put such harsh regulations on broadcasted free speech. Pretty soon we are gonna end up like Canada and not have a protected form of free speech.
There is a lot more to it than that. His problems with his employer stem from a government agency whose role is in part to censor broadcasts. You might have heard of them, they're called the FCC.
Well since he is moving to Sirrius, he will no longer be apart of the rating system since you pay to listen. The current system is setup for AM and FM broadcasts in their respective markets for their respective time slots.
OK, what has been censored? Does he get to trash the president? How many other politicians has he made fun of? Has he ever tried to swing elections for his own (private) benefit over (free) public airways? Does he mock religion? Does he get girls naked and make them do all kinds of stupid things? Does he have contests on "Who's got the biggest hemorroid? Has Howard Stern ever promoted his fans calling or spoofing other TV/Radio shows, yelling Bababoey? YES! No one is censoring him, no one is taking him off the air (Howard admitted today it was a voluntary choice). Are there black helicopters flying around his house? Anyone trying to sabotage him or his show? NO. His radio show is broadcast over FREE PUBLIC airwaves during the morning (which is definitely different that after 9/10pm, like it or not). Every radio station plays songs, during the moringing/day, that have curses bleepped out? Where's Howard been all these years on that issue ... OH, that's right, that never effected his pocket book. Only when it started to affect him, did it become an issue. So all that is happening is profanity and indecent sexual content (mostly a word or 2) gets bleepped, and he's been able to find substitute words for all these years without a single problem. So don't give me censorship. How many times have you heard "so, do you do anal?" Where's the censorship? Really, where is it? Howards been able to say and do what he likes all these years! He's just crying because they're taking his MONEY! That's all this is about, nothing more!
... just Christianity!
And if you don't think Howard himself lies, he said one show "The religous right is trying to make you pay for email now to fund their cause!", after everyone in the news took Bill Gates talk on paying for email to help stop spam, out of context. Bill Gates said it, so Howard sings the songs that best suit him too. He's not above that, his listeners are just to stupid to realize.
Who is the parent company of MTV, who broadcasted the Superbowl half-time show last year? Viacom! Who is the parent company of Infinity Broadcasting? Viacom! So what, we're just gonna let them show/do whatever they want over FREE PUBLIC airwaves where anyone can see it? Seriously, at what point is it enough? How much should it take before anyone steps in and says "enough is enough"?
2 more things:
1. I am not saying remove him from the airwaves, just don't curse and you won't get fined. Simple. No censorship has hapened, just a fine. He's still on the airwaves, no one is forcing him off.
2. Howard Stern doesn't hate religion
gotta a light for my Sig?
Personally, I think that's the thing that makes him totally uninteresting--the fact that his entire radio persona is just schtick.
It's pointless listening to him because he'll say anything that will get him attention; doesn't matter whether it's true, false, what he honestly believes, something he vehemently disagrees with, or whatever. He's just empty speech filling airtime.
The amazing thing is that there are apparently millions of people who haven't worked it out yet.
GCHQ Quantum Insert installed. If only our tongues were made of glass, how much more careful we would be when we speak
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Hey Now!
nuff said.
what is the hell is an 'articule'?
Seriously, dude, learn to spell/type/read.
Right, because they don't want/like/need money.
Tool.
For those that would die defending it, Freedom
has a sweet taste that the protected will never know.
"Stern is jumping to satellite because the FCC and its christian corporate masters hounded him off FM."
Is that anything like "Jews run the banking and entertainment industry" that the hate groups spout off? Or are you just engaging in scapegoating, and rumourmongering because you actually can't figure out what's really happening?
No, these christian corporate masters aren't ashamed of their pressure on the FCC, and all of us in their media footprint. Jerry Falwell crowed just last month about how he controls the Republican Party with his influence over evangelical christian voters. I'm just backing him up, and drawing attention to his direct threat to our freedom with his zombie army. If your reps are going to corrupt the government, I guess it makes sense to post your denials as an "Anonymous Coward". Christians aren't suspect here, just christian corporate masters. The general gentiles need not be aggrieved, unless you've got a guilty conscience.
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No, I don't think that. I just hadn't verified it either way so I didn't argue with the parent on that particular point. Or perhaps you were meaning to reply to the guy I was replying to, rather than me? Or maybe just a misunderstanding?
Brand new site: SiriuslyStern.com
Stern has zero redeeming value. Period. You would be very hard pressed to find anyone who could argue shit like making fun of midgets and discussing breast implants with the intellect of a ten year old has "socially redeming value" - and I'll include Larry fucking Flynt in that group.
These "shock jocks" (or whatever the fuck they like to call themselves) are complaining about "not knowing where the line is" simply because they have chosen to push it. It's not like we never had the fucking lines - they've been there all along. What it comes down to is them losing sight of that line... when they crossed it long ago.
I think it's absurd the clamor that came about because of Janet Jackson, and I think having arbritrary rules against certain words only serves to empower those words - it's a stupid benchmark of obscenity. But holding Howard Stern up as some sort of martyr to free speech is equally god-damned insane.
"I don't like religous speech, should I be able to force those that are religous to pay for ex-public broadcasts of their sermons?"
You may get your wish.
"Dr. James Dobson, with Focus on the Family, pleads for our action. An organization has been granted a Federal Hearing on the same subject by the Federal Communications Commission (FCC) in Washington, DC. Their petition, Number 2493, would ultimately pave the way to stop the reading of the gospel of our Lord and Savior, on the airwaves of America. They got 287,000 signatures to back their stand! If this attempt is successful, all Sunday worship services being broadcast on the radio or by television will be stopped."
He didn't really quit either. He just opted to not renew his contract.
I'm sure CBS/Viacom would have liked to keep him, but the FCC is driving him out of the public airwaves and making it very difficult to keep him around.
"Do you seriously think that the vast majority of Stern listeners are part of the higher end of the scale in intelligence? Maybe there is some craving among the professionals of the world for his brand of low-brow humor, but I doubt it."
Stern's fans cut across intelligence lines - stop spewing your ignorant prejudice. I'm a research scientist, and I grew up on Stern. Many of my closest acquaintances listen/watch daily, and that includes judges, lawyers, and teachers, to name just a few. Whether or not you like it, many people find him funny. That doesn't mean we all like everything, and I know more than a few fans who change the station when he hits certain topics. It's entertainment, not gospel.
G
Hey! The first rule of usenet is nobody talks about usenet.
Benny Hill was aimed at the non - adult audience - but then in America...
Okay; the first post said that Sirius had three satellites in orbit and one in storage.
The second post, in an apparently serious attempt to "correct" the first, said that three were in orbit and one in storage. In other words, he said the same thing.
The third post jokingly "corrected" the first two by saying the exact same thing as the first two.
Note the winky face at the end of the post you responded to.
"No, these christian corporate masters aren't ashamed of their pressure on the FCC, and all of us in their media footprint. Jerry Falwell crowed just last month about how he controls the Republican Party with his influence over evangelical christian voters. I'm just backing him up, and drawing attention to his direct threat to our freedom with his zombie army."
Then you would have provided evidence in your original post (which lacked all mention of Falwell) instead of depending on fearmongering (much like the Bush administration) to get people to beliving what you want them to believe.
BJ Shea (http://www.1007thebuzz.com) is a fairly well-known DJ in Seattle, somewhat along the lines of Tom Leykis. His show today covered the Stern jump to Satellite and why it is actually, in fact, a bad thing. As was pointed out, this is just another form of censorship. The Janet Jackson thing, now Howard Stern... Even though all of George Carlin's 7 dirty words are all NOT against community standards, the FCC & Dubya's cronies want to make it seem that it is. If this continues to happen, the only place we will be able to look for people who actually tell it like it is are places like HBO & satellite radio. Why should we have to pay for things we have been getting for free in the past?
"PC Load Letter? What the $@#% does that mean?!"
I liked the movie too, but let's face it: his show is crap. I was living in DC when he got himself suspended for a week by calling up Air Florida to taunt them after one of their planes crashed into the 14th street bridge. (That suspension was from his employer, not the FCC, by the way.)
He's made a lot of enemies by behaving like a complete lout.
-jcr
The only title of honor that a tyrant can grant is "Enemy of the State."
Sirius will likely give Stern a pay-extra [...] channel
Stern said that it would not be a premium service. (link)
G
Well, I will give Flynt credit for litigating at his own expense for my free-speech rights. I will still knock him for the consistently low quality of his products, though.
-jcr
The only title of honor that a tyrant can grant is "Enemy of the State."
Well, it isn't about my rights, that for sure.
Nor Stern's. Clear Channel buys his show, so they've got every right to stop buying it. That's no more censorship than if your local bookstore won't sell porn. Stern's right to free speech was not impaired when CC took him off their half-dozen or so stations. He kept on talking. Some folks couldn't hear him on their radio anymore, but the Constitution doesn't guarantee a right to listen to Stern. All it guarantees is his right to talk.
Too bad, though, he hasn't decided to broadcast from the real Sirius.
-- Slashdot: When Public Access TV Says "No"
lots of truckers I know enjoy Howard Stern. They'll all jump on this Sirius shit - and of the ones I know, most of them are currently using XM.
Stern being on Sirius will certainly be a great asset to them.
actually we are talking about a crappy radio guy getting fired by his employer.
I don't think he was fired, I think he decided on his own to run away from the fight.
I'm not very impressed with Stern as a campaigner for liberty. He got a bunch of his fans to hijack the Libertarian nomination for governor of New York, and then bailed rather then provide the financial disclosure that he knew from the beginning was required of candidates for statewide office.
He's not Lenny Bruce. Hell, he's not even Larry Flynt. He's not funny, he's not talented, he's not principled, and he only got where he is by racing Jerry Springer to the bottom of the pond.
-jcr
The only title of honor that a tyrant can grant is "Enemy of the State."
Oh, be fair! Benny Hill was funny, at least.
-jcr
The only title of honor that a tyrant can grant is "Enemy of the State."
Stern isn't the first big name that has joined with Sirius: Eminem and Shady Records signed a deal with Sirius earlier this year.. I guess they'll be playing a lot of exclusive stuff from the bands on that label. Also, Vincent Pastore (of The Sopranos), Tony Hawk, Bam Margera, and Grandmaster Flash all host shows on Sirius.
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I'm no lawyer, nor have I even RTFA, but I think this is likely to give unfettered freedom of speech. Over broadcast radio, you can't send anything obscene/profane/indecent. This is why Stern lands himself in trouble, this is why there are "Radio Edits" of songs with profanity.
:)
However, cable TV is a different story, because cable TV is not a 'broadcast' medium the same way radio is; you must subscribe to (or illegally steal) cable television, you cannot simply tune around the airwaves and encounter profanity. (Oh the horrors!)
Again, it seems to me that Sirius, a subscription-based satellite radio service, would be classified the same way, thus permitting Stern to say whatever he pleases.
Whether his show is any good, or whether it's just pure filth that's not even funny, is still up to you.
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Well, in comparison to Don Imus back in the 80s. On second thought, I see your point.
HBI's Law: Frequency of calling others Nazis is directly correlated with the likelihood of the accuser being Communist.
But here's the interesting thing... Now that he's announced that he won't be renewing, he'll essentially have the next 15 months to promote his Sirius gig, and encourage people to buy the hardware and subscriptions.
CBS/Viacom, and terrestrial radio in general, can't afford to give their competitor that kind of free ride.
Even though Stern has a contract, I don't think they'll keep him on the air. They'll have to pay him out (or he'll take them to court, and win, just like he's doing with Clear Channel over the 6 markets they kicked him out of), and they'll have to put a replacement show on, even though it'll hurt their ratings and advertising revenue.
Stern will not be on regular Radio for the entire period between now and his Satellite debut. (He hasn't publically predicted this, but if you look at how he's finally gotten his website together this year (He had no website up until this year) I'm sure he knows this to be true.)
For those that would die defending it, Freedom
has a sweet taste that the protected will never know.
First off, I'm not proposing this, merely asking.
Isn't it possible -- almost likely -- that once he goes back at his total filth of a radio show, he's going to completely offend someone? (That's his modus operandi, really, so of course he will.)
I'm still confused by the story, but I guess a friend's friend had Howard Stern make some comment towards her, which she construed as being sexualyl harassing. Nothing really became of it, but she was given a bunch of free concert tickets.
I've never found him funny, so I don't listen. But I actually find it surprising that, in today's society, he's not being hit with lawsuits every day. Or is he, and we're just not hearing about them?
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Howard Stern is such a has been. How can you find this guy entertaining? I used to listen to home in 8th and 9th grades ('92 and '93) and stopped when the Greaseman came on the air. Even that became boring after a while. Like so many in the entertainment world, it's all promotion and no substance. What makes a band, actor, or writer be at the top these days? Talent? No way...it's promotion- how well can they be advertised to a dumb (and increasingly dumber) audience.
Benny Hill.
Banned by the parents of most middle class homes in England, because it was 'hugely naff'.
Blue. And if you don't think so you are a Bush supporter.
Red!
Unless you're some kind of commie.
Fnord.
I don't know about you, but I can't survive without a little Howard Stern in the morning. I'll have to subscribe to Sirius if it's the only station where he's going to appear.
With the Democrats in power, you might see more sex on TV but you'll not be able to record any of it.
Don't forget whose camp the movie/tv media is firmly in.
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
"It's pointless listening to him because he'll say anything that will get him attention; doesn't matter whether it's true, false, what he honestly believes, something he vehemently disagrees with, or whatever. He's just empty speech filling airtime."
Hmm... Sounds a lot like Bush and Kerry. And your last statement is true for them as well.
"The amazing thing is that there are apparently millions of people who haven't worked it out yet"
Screw the FCC. Make the leap!
w00t...if yer face you bad teeth havin mofos
1) Opie and Anthony were never popular.
2) They're the modern equivalent of "The Greaseman"
3) They went to satellite because they couldn't get a job anywhere else on free radio.
4) I'll bet less than 20K people signed up for XM due to Opie and Dopie.
They're miserable failures. Impossible to listen to for normal people. Or any people. Maybe for assholes, they're really great. But for everybody else...
" but you are wrong"
I don't even know who these guys are. Are they like shock jocks or something? Were they famous?
Do you really believe that a pair of shock jocks that nobody heard of were pressuring arguably the most recognizable DJ on the planet?
I was trying to decide which to go with, XM or Sirius, since Stern has infected Sirius, I guess that makes the decision simple! XM for me!
"just don't curse and you won't get fined."
That is not correct. Howard Stern has never "cursed" to get his fines.
If the FCC would simply say: Dont' use these words and you're OK. But they don't. THey use a vague standard that changes depending on whether...whether Michael Powell got laid last night or something. Nobody *knows* what the standards are, and the FCC fines based on whether... wheter.... nobody knows why.
Do you think perhaps you're wrong about this and don't understand the issue completely? I'm sure you don't, but I want to see if you understand how ignorant you are of the issue.
and not the ass-clown refugees from Sports Center either. They get the local broadcasters, from each team. If you're going to listen to a game on the radio, Sirius is the way to do it.
Howard Stern is a complete and total jackass. I avoid his programming at all costs, only because I find that his shows mostly consist of segments highlighting the most basest of comedy. Why make fun of someone who stutters, or is obviously a few cards shy of a full deck? Why take someone's obvious faults, and magnify them? Reminds me far too much of an elementary-school bully.
I know millions love him, think he's great and "sticking it to the man", but all he's doing is eroding our moral fiber by presenting a set of ideals that fall far short of what is typically acceptable in an adult world.
Methinks XM signing Opie & Anthony pissed Stern off something fierce, and there's no way in hell he's going to admit that publicly. Best way to stick it to XM and ClearChannel (and make a $gazillion) -- join Sirius.
Trolls lurk everywhere. Mod them down.
If Sirius wants to draw customers, they should get programs that have the same appeal but don't have the coverage that Stern has(46 stations according to his website).
Give me Mancow, Don & Mike, and Steve Dahl. Or even look at talent that isn't syndicated like WRIF's Drew & Mike.
Not to be nit picky, but I know that at least in New York, Stern is not #1 rated. That title belongs to Curtis & Kuby who I would much rather listen to than Stern.
"Nature doesn't care how smart you are. You can still be wrong." - Richard Feynman
When I read this, I thought Howard Stern was going to a different Sirius. Damn.
Yeah right, and no ones ever heard of the Sopranos either.
i'd pay $35 a month to send his lousy ass into space.
Remember kids, if you're not paying for the service, YOU ARE THE PRODUCT THAT IS BEING SOLD.
Whether you like it or not, the 1st Amendment protects everybody, even the people you don't like. Like Stern or hate him, he has a constitutional right to say whatever he wants to say. I believe the thread was about censorship, not who is a Stern fan or who isn't. Posts on that topic are irrelevant. If you don't like what he has to say, TURN OFF THE RADIO, idiot. I hate a lot of television and radio personalities, but instead of wasting my breath on how I hate them and how they should be taken off, I just change the channel. It's a pretty simple concept. They also have the right to say whatever they want to.
Wow, I wonder if you have really ever listened.
He goes on the radio; makes the kinds of jokes that he likes (I have no evidence to believe otherwise), and that evidently most people in his markets like; talks about his life, famous people, and the news. What about that is schtick?
What does he say to only get attention? Can you give some examples? What, he says he hates Blacks? Hmm, no. He says Republicans should be shot? Hmm, no. What controversial airtime filling is he doing?
Also, consider how deflated he feels doing a show where he can't be creative due to FCC censorship (right or wrong). It'll be interesting what the show is like come 2006.
Regardless, he's entertaining to listen to, and there is nothing these millions of people have to work out. Rather than telling millions of people they're wrong, you could just consider that they have a different opinion, and a different idea of funny (which is hardly jock-shocking--it's the stuff guys talk about between classes and when hanging out).
wasn't most of howards fine from clear chanel instead fo the FCC? It was my understanding that in his contract, clearchanel had the ability to fine him for decency and stuff and they were the ones finning him. He refused to pay one of them and thats when/whatlead up to them taking him off the air.
IT used to be when you go to Howard's Site you got a nice, big XM ad on the top right. Now when you go there it shows a Sirius advertisement.
I'm just curious why he would make such a change? I hope he hasn't signed anything binding with Sirius that would potentially keep him off XM since they have better channels, better compression, and more listeners.
Perhaps they'll just run Stern repeats and he'll stop creating new stuff. The Stern shown has numerous classic shows that everyone would love to hear erpeated!
What is your penile percentile?
Porn? Dwarf? There's a joke in there somewhere, but it's kind of sticky and gross and I don't want to touch it.
Hey man, be nice when you're talking about Beetlejuice.
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Wait at least an hour after eating before you view it.
Fire and Meat. Yummy.
The whole reason for people's interest in Howard is that he is always something other than how he presents himself... He provokes the worst from people, but also manages to keep a strong core audience. It's impossible to have a well-defined concept of him without contradiction, which is at the root of people's fascination with him.
I'm not sure. Part of why I like Stern so much is because I can identify with all aspects of his personality. I wear a shirt and tie to work, but I drive there in a 1976 Dodge Ram pickup truck. I can do Big Math (tm) - on a sliderule, at that - but I like to roll up the sleeves and get up to my arms in greasy old car engine. And lemme tell you about the sorts of conversations which happen when a couple of electrical engineers are hanging around in the garage drinking beer with a couple of mechanical engineers. Where do you think this and this came from?
Nah, for the most part, Stern is really just a regular guy, abeit missing the part of the brain which censors out what most of us say. Shrewd businessman? Yup. Well informed and well read? Yup. One of the most intelligent people in the public view? Undoubtedly. But all that different from most regular joes? Nope.
Fire and Meat. Yummy.
Another great argument against "critical comparison". People listen to Stern because he's funny and fills his show with funny people. Don't be a douche and overanalyze it.
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The best is Doug Stanhope. The line from his standup goes something like:
"You ever have one of those dreams that was so dirty even
you were ashamed when you woke up? Like if you told people you would start to lose friends? Like 'Oh my god! Why didn't you tell me you were only five?!?'"
He used to make appearances on a morning show here that the DJ's got fired for goofing on tape of Nick Berg's beheading.
That's plainly wrong.
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Stern has the #1 rating, Curtis & Kuby are tied for 8th. Stern's rating is more than double C & K.
Benny Hill??
Has been dead a long time... seriously, you can't answer a remark on contemporary American entertainment by referring to a dead comedian whose heyday was, er, twenty-five years ago...
Sure the show dragged on till 1989 but by then it was badly dated and hardly in tune with the rest of British comedy.
I've never heard Howard Stern before, but even putting aside the subscription issue, will his listeners like the uncensored version?
I mean, if his show is as censored as he claims, maybe the uncensored version will be so different that many of his fans will be turned off. The FCC could be the leash that keeps him in line with his fanbase (Note: I'm not a fan of censorship, I'm just noting an effect it could be having in this case)
I'm going to guess that most slashdot readers aren't Stern listeners. I don't listen to his show, I never did, but from what I've read about him and heard about him over the years, I have to say that I respect him.
He's standing up to the FCC and is encouraging the media companies to do the same. I think it's great that he's "putting his paycheck where his mouth is" and not just moving to a medium that the FCC can't touch right now, but taking his ratings away from Clearchannel.
So Howard Stern, if you're out there, I salute you.
... I *have* seen Private Parts, and that was good. I don't know, maybe it's because he's been doing the same damn thing for 10 years or so?
"I can't wait to hook into a shockjock-timeshifted-podcast..."
I'm afraid you'll have to, you can only "timeshift" it one way at the moment.
He wasn't particularly funny in the 70s, never mind now. Although The Simpsons did a good sendup of the chase thing he always ended his show with.
Puleeze... give me a break. Stern may be many things, but he's way down on the list of people trying to protect freedom of speech. All he seems to care about is money, degrading women, and bowel movements.
He made a move for the money - not for the freedom. I suspect he only has one trick, and that's getting strippers to take off their tops and french kiss a fat guy, and he's worn out his welcome in the mainstream radio market.
I'm all for him having some place to practice his "art." And sometimes his show is amusing, but generally, when you grow up, you grow out of his sophmoric, degrading attempt at humor.
I think there are many other people who are more worthy of being appreciated for their attempts to express themselves in politically-incorrect ways.
Howard has done this kind of schtick his entire career. In fact, he has built his career on fighting with his employer, his family, his listeners...
I have listened off and on for the last twenty years. I must have heard Howard announce he was going to walk out when his contract ended at least 20 times.
Do you remember his movie? What was that scene where the manager is reviewing his numbers and says something like, "The people who like him listen for an hour a day! And the people who hate him listen for two!!"
The economics alone should tell you that this is pure bull. They're going to let him walk from a $170 million a year revenue generator to one which at best, even if his show got every dime from every subscriber would be $60 million? (600,000 x $10 a month x let's just use 10 months instead of 12)= $60 million.
Oh please. As much as people love Howard, I don't think enough of his listeners are going to pony up $200 to $300 for equipment plus $120 a year just to hear him. And Clear Channel isn't going to let him go quietly into the good night. They know who butters their bread.
Is Howard going to give up ad revenues? Those satellite broadcasts don't have commercials, as I understand. Are you going to pay and still listen to those 10 minute commercial breaks on his show? I don't think so.
He won't survive in a place where he can say whatever he wants. He can do that now-- it's called a forest. He doesn't want to do his show in the middle of a quiet forest. He wants to keep chucking big rocks into the pond by your house.
So my prediction is that Howard will learn to live with both media. There is some stuff that he can't do now on the public airwaves that he would like to do. But there is no way you are going to get him off of the public airwaves unless you physically drag him away from the mic.
I've been calling this guy "Howard Stem" for years!
Apologies for posting as AC. More of a lurker around here. First things first, I do enjoy Howard Stern's radio show. It gives me something to laugh at while I'm on the road first thing in the morning. And as we all know, it's better that you're in a good mood when you walk in the front door, else you might blow up from overload of negativity within the first five minutes of work. That being said, the news about Howard Stern moving to Sirius both excited me and bothered me. Namely because at the office, our radio is XM, not Sirius. But on the plus side, it appears that Sirius has online streaming of all their stations. So naturally, I decided to call Sirius customer service and get some answers to a few questions from them. Spoke with a wonderful CS tech named Nicole who seemed to be rather excited about the Stern announcement as well. Anyhow, it is true that Sirius costs $12.99 per month and provides free online streaming, compared to XM's $9.99 + additional $3.99 for their streaming service. She also claimed that they have no intention of raising their prices between now and when Howard comes on board. Apparently they also have a lifetime subscription method, where you pay $499.99, and you get your Sirius working forever -- no matter how many times they raise the prices in the future. That's basically pre-paying for 3 years, 2 months, and 2 weeks... and getting it for the rest of your life. The bad news, however, is that when Howard Stern joins the Sirius team in 2006, his stations will be the only ones not streamed via their online service. Apparently this is due to the contract that both Sirius and Stern hammered out. Her solution? "Buy a boombox to listen at your desk." ...not exactly too thrilled with that idea.
If you're interested in hearing Stern online, I suggest calling his show, as well as Sirius customer service, and letting them know that your decision to purchase a Sirius subscription depends wholly on our ability to have Stern streamed along with the rest of the Sirius content.
Benny Hill was cancelled by ITV in 1989 although he ramained popular in other contries, including France and the US. He made several shows for the US only after his cancellation in the UK. There is far more of his material available in the US than the UK (source Wikipedia).
I keep hearing the same mantra from everyone on the radio/TV. I heard the same thing back in the eighties when someone came knocking on my door asking me if I would like to subscribe to "pay TV". I thought that was the most absurd thing when I was already getting TV through my antenna, for FREE!
My point is, now I'm making quite a good living as an engineer for the cable monopoly where I live. People will pay for it if the content on sat radio is good or better than broadcast. I know I'm getting tired of the government deciding what is going to offend me.
I've not only listened, I've watched the show on E!. If you can't spot that his entire online persona is fake, well, carry on listening. Did you catch the Courtney Love interview where she took him to task for the fake radio persona?
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I used to think Howard was cool. He has gone way over the line in some of his antics. He is a cry baby wannabe with a dwindling audience.
> Red!
> Unless you're some kind of commie.
The Commies are the reds... Unless you're a Democrat, then you're a pinko commie -- slight difference. But anyway, that's, like, so 80's... totally. These days, you're either with "us," or you're a terrorist, not a commie. We've seen the error of our ways, not all commies are intrinsically bad. So we'll kill all the Arabs instead! How could we not have seen it before?!?! (Before what? The crusades?)
i'd rather start an argument on which is the better spelling, "color" or "colour" :)
this is just a placeholder till i send back my real sig from the future.
> he gets chicks to get naked for him, and he's old, fat, and ugly!
Unlike Stern, who isn't fat...
Hey, I'd get my ass kicked for this in Canada where I live, but I think "color" makes more sense. What's wrong with simplifying the English language?
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Sheesh, Stern couldn't get arrested outside of the US! Absolutley nobody cares about or for him, so please don't give us "proven to the world... King of All Media".
And don't get me started on the "World" Series...
Only one of the candidates has big media contributors in the top ten.
You're right to some extent, but the Democrats are particularily in the pocket of hollywood.
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
What I can't understand is why they charge money for satellite radio. Once you put the satellite up, you've covered the most significant single cost. Beyond that, maintenance and operating expenses may actually be cheaper than regular radio, especially considering how widespread the market it! Sure, there will be people willing to pay a premium for commercial-free radio. But they can still make money off the sale of recievers, and once people have recievers they'll be more receptive to upgrading.
So it's the difference between building a new premium radio market, and taking over the existing non-local-news market. The latter could be far more profitable and helps develop the former.
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It was from the FCC.
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Clear channel had no rights to fine stern or terminate his contract because of the shows content. You can view the contract at : http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/0722041stern
No, I don't watch the E Show and I've only listened since Feb. or so. If Courtney Love was on during that time I may have tuned out her insane babbling.
Do you know what date that was, or do you have an quotes?
I'm tempoted to just ignore you as the politics in this thread make it obvious no opinions critical of "the martyr' are going to survive moderation, but I'll answer just this one anyway.
Look up the FCC guidelines. Stations are required by the FCC to act in a way that "serves the interests of the community."
Period
It's very rare for a station to be denied renewal, but it does happen. and for the most part it's rare because so few bother to actually write the FCC with legitimate affidavits regarding the operation of their local stations being "not in the public good." But networks go further beyond that - they don't live in just one community - they live everywhere an affiliate exists. This changes the scope of enforcement.
"Rich enough to cough up money for programming not in the public interest?" You mean the way Electric Blue and Spice aren't "free?" How about HBO or Cinemax? Showtime?
Stern's no martyr. He's just doing exactly what you said: following the money. He sucks, he knows he sucks, he knows his days are limited unless he can continue to draw controversy. Time passes, controversy fades along with howard's ratings. He's moving to satellite because he knows it's a fat paycheck whether he can pull in the ratings or not - after all, the whole point of satellite radio is to cater to "niche audiences" that would otherwise be unprofitable. He'll draw in a few thousand more subscribers, get aboost from the publicity and hype surrounding the move, then fade away into the oblivion of a thousand channels of garbage. Howard knows he's getting old, he can't keep up making the same three "jokes" forever, so he's retiring to a desk job - away from the fire, far behind the trenches.
Some martyr.
Excuse me, Doc, but I am a Christian and certainly don't agree with plenty of things the FCC and other internal-facing government agencies have been doing lately. I don't like the dangerous position for future abuse that the Patriot Act gives our government, I don't like the DMCA at all, and I don't agree with all that the FCC has done in their pseudo-policing of communications in this country even when it is directed at Howard Stern who I personally think is pretty boring and irrelevant and a waste of my time to listen to. So DO NOT lump me in with idiots and liars such as Rod Parsely as part of the "Christian corporate masters" that you think run the FCC, the US government, etc. Personally that is incredibly insulting that you'd make such a charge that ALL Christians conform to your obviously distorted view of what it means to be a Christian. I follow God and His Bible, not some political bull-shit agenda that some "Christians" claim is the only right thing for America. Yes, there are issues that are fundamental to being a Christian, but absolutely none of them have anything to do with how I am to run a government. My being a Christian is based on my salvation in Jesus Christ. It is not on my "good works" done on this earth to push some political agenda through Congress. Please refrain from insulting me so in the future. Thanks.
Even though this is flamebait I will respond to this. I have listened to Stern for sometime and he is much more than "boobies". I think you have him and Homer Simpson confused. Yes there is that part of the show but there is much more to it. Howard provokes people to talk about things they would never discuss on other talk stations. Yeah at times he centers around sex but what guy doesn't. I feel he asks the questions that people seem to think are "politically incorrect". He has stated that he thrives on confrontation. It gets ratings. People listen. And most of the time it is very funny. I have read both his books and found them to be great. His movie was great also. What I think is great is his fight to rid my country of our illegitimate President. Though Howard has supported Republicans before and also helped them get in office with his influence on the swing vote he sees how morally wrong the Bush Administration is. It is a shame other Republicans cannot see this. It isn't a matter of party anymore to Americans like myself. It is a matter of whats right and what is wrong.
No, I'm not that big of a fan that I note dates. It's something I occasionally casually tune to if it's late at night and I'm bored and have nothing better to watch. Courtney Love was fresh out of rehab at the time, so she was pretty lucid.
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Well, perhaps she was. I've only been listening since January--take the commercial free show from the newsgroups and listen while I read boards and slashdot--but she has tended to ramble insanely at each appearance when she's supposed to be sober to keep her kid.
You may very well be right, and it doesn't bother me, because regardless the show is entertaining. But I don't see anything spectacular about his on-air persona that might not possibly be him off-air, so I don't believe you. He isn't nearly as outrageous as those who followed suit, and he talks about his life so much that it doesn't seem very different.
Sure, there are literally billions of christians, and they're obviously not *all* corporate masters of the FCC. You're on some kind of hairtrigger, set off by any criticism of any christian singled out for their unique style or actions. The more christian reaction would be to accept my criticism of the corporate christian masters ("forgiveness"), and empathize with my observations of this world, full of flawed sinners. Your changing the channel discipline is the christian response to temptation broadcast on the airwaves. I wish you'd focus some of your indignation more on those who are taking your god's name in vain, and suppressing all of us behind their false front. We're all in this together, and need to drop the easy fetish of solidarity with a label that is diluted by conmen.
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But other than that...
Because Wired had the insight that popular, unconventional broadcasters would move to the less supressive medium- whether Sirius or XM is hairsplitting of that insight. Why split hairs? Oh, you're a Duhbyist, and the vengeful FCC is a snapping Republican at the end of a Republican leash. Makes sense!
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