I would hardly call it being "screwed." If they were screwing him, he would've won in small claims court because there would have be no legit reason for Apple not to accept the return. Maybe he screwed himself...
LOL, you ordered from the web front, then decided to buy from the store front out of the blue, and you think THATS a legitimate reason for a return? Come on man.
I love the fact that the link to the story in the main post not only generates a pop-up ad, but also has an ad on the page that takes up about 50% of the width ( on this low res anyway:P ). *sigh*
While an MS zealot will run into a company using Linux and attempt to blow himself up, only to discover his explosion mechanism has given him the blue screen of no death.
As noted in the article, it is suggested that a four-peron crew be sent, so there would not be a total loss of human contact. Read the article, it's rather interesting.
Consider a pretty standard setup--the OS, plus ftpd and httpd--here's the count of errata advisory between M$ Win2k Server and RedHat 9
Microsoft's OS includes IE, which can't simply be "removed." So you would have to also count the patches for IE that have come out.
Also be reminded that RedHat is by no means the only open-source OS under the sun. It's rather unfair to pit it against MS just because it's an easy target.
Breaks under warranty? Ok...name one single product ever made that had a 0% service rate with EVERY product and EVERY customer. We are talking about a problem with iBooks that affects less than 1% of users. Users should be smart enough to get an extended warranty, esp. on a laptop, and at the VERY LEAST backup important information.
Apple will still happily fix it, it just won't be free. This is a common, everyday practice for the majority of businesses small and large.
It appears that a large percentage of these products have defects...
It does just that, appears. There are about 1200 people who(whom?) have signed the petition and I feel it would be safe to say 25-30% of them are either Apple bashers or people with completely unrelated problems. The iBook has been a strong product for Apple for a long time, and while I don't have any hard figures, I'd be willing to bet those people make up less than 1% of iBook users. If a large company chased after ever problem that less than 1% of their customers had and gave them free repairs, they would be out of business in a hurry.
I'm sure that if enough people do have this problem and Apple gets overwhelmed with tech support calls on it they will notice and do their best to fix the problem for future releases. This comment addresses the issue fairly well.
but with the exception that he has applecare, they have fixed the problem 2 times already and it has fried a hard drive with a years worth of his data
They fixed it. What's the problem?
Just because he's a "home user" does not exempt him from needing backups. The technology is there, the ability is there, it's very simple to back up data. You can't blame a company for user incompetence.
It pissed me off it happened not long after warranty went out.
If your warranty is up, so is free service. End of story.
And read some of the signatures on that petitiononline.com site, here's a few examples:
1013. Bastich FIX MY SH1T YOU A55HOLES!!!! I'M COMIN TO YOUR KEYNOTE WITH A BAG OF ROTTEN APPLES!!!!!
1019. LOL Hey.....iBook owning JACKASS... YOU should have bought a DELL!!!!! Inspiron 8100 NOTHING EVER..may out live me....
Not to mention a number of them say "Apple replaced my logic board!" I fail to see exactly what is wrong with Apple giving these people customer service. Then there's the one's who say "I'm out of warranty and they won't fix it for free!" Again, what's the problem here?
And there are also additional signatures from people with all kinds of problems completely unrelated to iBooks. These petitions do not reflect some serious overwhelming problem. I'd like to see a list of people who are perfectly content with their iBook (like myself).
These people just need to understand that if they are out of warranty, things won't be fixed for free.
Especially in a college campus area - simple and pretty much unlimited will probably draw a solid crowd.
On the campus of the university I go to I can basically drive down 2 streets and pickup 5-6 different open APs from people in the dorms. It's rather interesting how uninformed people are about securing wireless networks (or their lack of care for it).
Believe me, I realize there are glaring exceptions. But it works just the same way in Bollywood, read some of the other comments around here.
And look at the time span for those movies (2001:ASO in 1968; Beautiful Mind in 2002). Compare the TOTAL output of Hollywood films in that same span and that list will be less than 1% (Certainly not saying those are the ONLY noteworthy films of the time.)
I'm not saying Hollywood does NOTHING but cut n' paste, but they sure as hell do a lot of it.
Well, with the number of movies Hollywood pumps out, there will obviously be exceptions. But I can look back at movies this year and say honestly there were about 4 or 5 (Hollywood, not indie) films that really seemed to grab my interest. I would imagine that Bollywood works pretty much the same way in that the majority of movies that come out with the cut n' paste storyline will tend to over-shadow the more interesting ones simply because of quantity (this has been mentioned in a few other comments by people who do in fact follow Bollywood films). And there is also fluxation of course, one year Hollywood may put out 10-15 movies that don't follow the 'norm' and the next year it may only be a couple.
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As near as I can tell, Apple is the only company that has such a restrictive policy.
Because you called HP and IBM? So, as near I can tell Apple, HP, and IBM are the only computer manufactors in business, right?
I would hardly call it being "screwed." If they were screwing him, he would've won in small claims court because there would have be no legit reason for Apple not to accept the return. Maybe he screwed himself...
LOL, you ordered from the web front, then decided to buy from the store front out of the blue, and you think THATS a legitimate reason for a return? Come on man.
I think 320 (or somewhere around there) 24-minute episodes is more than enough to prove the characters of The Simpsons aren't "simple."
I would have modded that funny if you hadn't added your own space in MyDoom.A (:
If you're going to edit the actual text to make it amusing, at least use proper grammar: "An email virus..."
...(translate a document lately?)
Yes
...should unequivocally condemn such acts of terrorism.
And I thought Bush's definition of terrorism was the dumbest (:
Just my $.02
I hope youre not a recording artists, cause you just gave away your prfits for 10 songs (:
I love the fact that the link to the story in the main post not only generates a pop-up ad, but also has an ad on the page that takes up about 50% of the width ( on this low res anyway :P ). *sigh*
While an MS zealot will run into a company using Linux and attempt to blow himself up, only to discover his explosion mechanism has given him the blue screen of no death.
As noted in the article, it is suggested that a four-peron crew be sent, so there would not be a total loss of human contact. Read the article, it's rather interesting.
Consider a pretty standard setup--the OS, plus ftpd and httpd--here's the count of errata advisory between M$ Win2k Server and RedHat 9
Microsoft's OS includes IE, which can't simply be "removed." So you would have to also count the patches for IE that have come out.
Also be reminded that RedHat is by no means the only open-source OS under the sun. It's rather unfair to pit it against MS just because it's an easy target.
So if the windows are running Windows and Windows crashes will the windows break?
I'm sorry, I had to say it ):
Breaks under warranty? Ok...name one single product ever made that had a 0% service rate with EVERY product and EVERY customer. We are talking about a problem with iBooks that affects less than 1% of users. Users should be smart enough to get an extended warranty, esp. on a laptop, and at the VERY LEAST backup important information.
And what about when it goes out of warranty?
Apple will still happily fix it, it just won't be free. This is a common, everyday practice for the majority of businesses small and large.
It appears that a large percentage of these products have defects...
It does just that, appears. There are about 1200 people who(whom?) have signed the petition and I feel it would be safe to say 25-30% of them are either Apple bashers or people with completely unrelated problems. The iBook has been a strong product for Apple for a long time, and while I don't have any hard figures, I'd be willing to bet those people make up less than 1% of iBook users. If a large company chased after ever problem that less than 1% of their customers had and gave them free repairs, they would be out of business in a hurry.
I'm sure that if enough people do have this problem and Apple gets overwhelmed with tech support calls on it they will notice and do their best to fix the problem for future releases. This comment addresses the issue fairly well.
You must be stupid, it broke twice.
And it was fixed twice under warranty.
My sister bought a Vaio and the hard drive fried after less than a month. Shit happens. All of her important information was backed up on CDs.
but with the exception that he has applecare, they have fixed the problem 2 times already and it has fried a hard drive with a years worth of his data
They fixed it. What's the problem?
Just because he's a "home user" does not exempt him from needing backups. The technology is there, the ability is there, it's very simple to back up data. You can't blame a company for user incompetence.
It pissed me off it happened not long after warranty went out.
If your warranty is up, so is free service. End of story.
And read some of the signatures on that petitiononline.com site, here's a few examples:
1013.
Bastich
FIX MY SH1T YOU A55HOLES!!!! I'M COMIN TO YOUR KEYNOTE WITH A BAG OF ROTTEN APPLES!!!!!
1019.
LOL
Hey.....iBook owning JACKASS... YOU should have bought a DELL!!!!!
Inspiron 8100
NOTHING EVER..may out live me....
Not to mention a number of them say "Apple replaced my logic board!" I fail to see exactly what is wrong with Apple giving these people customer service. Then there's the one's who say "I'm out of warranty and they won't fix it for free!" Again, what's the problem here?
And there are also additional signatures from people with all kinds of problems completely unrelated to iBooks. These petitions do not reflect some serious overwhelming problem. I'd like to see a list of people who are perfectly content with their iBook (like myself).
These people just need to understand that if they are out of warranty, things won't be fixed for free.
I assume law enforcement is exempt from this?
Of course they are. Hell, where I live they are exempt from using turn signals and making full stops at stop signs, apparently.
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I guess it was calculating child molesting
Especially in a college campus area - simple and pretty much unlimited will probably draw a solid crowd.
On the campus of the university I go to I can basically drive down 2 streets and pickup 5-6 different open APs from people in the dorms. It's rather interesting how uninformed people are about securing wireless networks (or their lack of care for it).
Believe me, I realize there are glaring exceptions. But it works just the same way in Bollywood, read some of the other comments around here.
And look at the time span for those movies (2001:ASO in 1968; Beautiful Mind in 2002). Compare the TOTAL output of Hollywood films in that same span and that list will be less than 1% (Certainly not saying those are the ONLY noteworthy films of the time.)
I'm not saying Hollywood does NOTHING but cut n' paste, but they sure as hell do a lot of it.
ready to deliver a new version of its PowerPC processor to Apple by the end of this year
So, within the next week? (:
Well, with the number of movies Hollywood pumps out, there will obviously be exceptions. But I can look back at movies this year and say honestly there were about 4 or 5 (Hollywood, not indie) films that really seemed to grab my interest. I would imagine that Bollywood works pretty much the same way in that the majority of movies that come out with the cut n' paste storyline will tend to over-shadow the more interesting ones simply because of quantity (this has been mentioned in a few other comments by people who do in fact follow Bollywood films). And there is also fluxation of course, one year Hollywood may put out 10-15 movies that don't follow the 'norm' and the next year it may only be a couple.
Yea, and than you have the Hollywood model
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