Does the way this it getting reported in the media remind anyone else of columbine. They already have the loner tag front and center. Next they will also discover his love of video games. There may not be a serious discussion about hate speech and the 1st amendment, which IMO is the real issue here.
a conga line moving through a party, with a guy on the end of the line selectively inserting pretty women into his place at the end on the line, and then grabbing their waists and following the chain until another suitable female is found to insert. This continues until all suitable females have been added to the line.
That at least accurately cartoons the ROMP reaction.
At the time of my OP no data had been confirmed, even now we only have a press conference to go by. Although I believe in their belief of a successful mission, show me the money!
If indeed we get a full data stream back from Huygens, (which I think we will) I say hats off of the Huygens team and the Cassini team. Great Work!
I should also add that there is an article on FoxCheck.org (a scoop site) that has a bunch of informative links and will be updated over the next day or two with more info and developments as they happen.
Yea, I cannot find any links or info on a c-span cassini broadcast tonight. I suspect the parent comment was hoping there would be based on previous c-span coverage of other space events. Can anyone confirm? If not parent is highly overrated.
This story is BS. Slashdot owes it's existance to DARPA. DARPA funded the creation of resiliant networking and ended up with TCP/IP. DARPA funds a lot of projects, they are looking for stuff that geeks will consider "news" in 10-15 years. This story is currently hype but it may be real in the future. DARPA is a friend to many geeks.
Don't bite the hand (at least based on this story).
Which version of windows are you referring to? XP/2000? We have the same issues on the mac platform. Some versions support features that the others do not. Your mum is probably dependant on a version that does not support feature x. This is why the Airport solution is elegant. It does not require you to run a particular version of the OS (as long as it supports 802.11).
Yes! However, last christmas 10.2 was not available. As I said, the OS should take care of this for you. It's good to see that apple get's this concept. Even if they are slow in implementation.
I'll see my sister in a month or so and plan to do my xmas duty to make sure she (and my folks) have the best set-up available.
While I am not Jamie Porshe. I set up my folks with a wireless airport network that would automatically connect to their DSL whenever they accessed an app that required the "net". Six months later, my sister, who has the same ISP asked me how I was able to have my parents connect automatically...she always has to use Internet Connect when accessing the net. I told her that I had configured the Airport to connect automatically...She now is deciding whether it is worth buying an Airport to forgo having to connect each time.
My folks are very happy with their set up.
Think of the hours of wasted time saved by some software that does a routine task.
I did my part last christmas, but this shit should not even be necessary. The OS should automatically configure things for people.
If you read Finlays missive carefully, he raises the question as to whether Darwin is really OPEN source and whether it will succeed the way Linux and BSD have by attracting outside developers to contribute. His main arguments are that the bug tracking system "Radar" is not open and that they make it too legally difficult for anyone (even older than 18) to become a Darwin committer. These are very valid concerns and much more important than whether 15 year olds can sign an NDA....If Darwin is truly open source, no NDA should be required!
So, what do you think? Will Darwin be successful as an open source project or is it a closed source project masquerading as an open source project?
Sounds to me like you have never used OS X (or BeOS for that matter). If you were truly a jedi knight of the command line, you would have little trouble with OS X. I think you have only been trained by yoda (Solaris/Linux etc) and not by Obi-Wan (bsd, next).
If I am wrong, please tell me how the CLI on OS X is gutted or malformed.
Here's the scene..The excite@home network provides access for ~4-5 million customers. ~900,000 of those are att@home customers. AT&T wants excite to go bankrupt so that they can buy Excite for a steal at 300 mil or so. AT&T does not have a broadband network of their own yet. They cannot possibly convert all their customers over to AT&T unless they buy broadband networks from someone (namely excite!). The other companies dealing with Excite are Cox, Comcast and Charter. Cox and Comcast at negociating new deals with Excite. Charter has their own broadband network (Pipeline) to convert customers over to. AT&T is playing a chicken game with Excite right now. Excite has played the latest card (bluff?) and shut off all the AT&T at home suscribers. Charter has switched all their customers over to Pipeline. I'm not sure what Cox and Comcast are doing but I do know that they are re-negociating contracts with excite right now and have treated Excite with respect. Excite has responded in kind. They have told AT&T to FSCK OFF and tried to keep the others online.
I'll be willing to bet that many customers will switch from AT&T to DSL or other competitors unless AT&T agrees to pay a reasonable amount to acquire the Excite network within the next few days.
Bottom line...AT&T is losing money fast and pissing off many customers right now. I'll bet they offer excite >450 million on monday!
This wil be interesting. I'm just glad I have charter (now Pipeline) service.
A package installer for the wavelan driver can be found at http://homepage.mac.com/yuriwho
of course if you have the new dev tools (free from ADC) you can compile the driver yourself from the wirelessdriver sources at http://sourceforge.net/projects/wirelessdriver (you'll also need the IOPCCardFamily headers from darwin to compile it)
Pretty Simple really. Steve did not want the true OS X comming out party to be a flop. He did not want it remembered for being insensitive to the crisis at hand. He would rather quietly release 10.1 in the specified time frame (Seybold) and let the passion of the Mac Faithful and new adoptees, with their newly aroused patriotism, be the show.
"We will make no distinction between the terrorists who committed these acts and those who harbor them,"
This line is very significant. It sets the stage for Bush to direct the armed forces/cia/nsa etc to strike boldly and generally at any all terrorists and the countries they live in. Be prepared to watch video's of smart bombs taking out buildings and compounds in countries around the world, esp. the middle east.
And the follow-up to these attacks: more terrorism, heaven forbid a couple of suitcase nuclear devices are involved.
This war is un-winable!
Whatever happened to the day of war commanders sending messages (on horseback/foot) to one another before deciding to let their soldiers storm into death and battle.
I sincerely hope dubya doesn't over react, he should listen to his european counterparts that have been dealing with terrorism (albeit on a smaller scale) for decades.
Get ready, this could get a lot worse in the next decade before it gets better.
That's right, if you follow this mantra then you must agree that ultimately all of your information will be free on the net...what sites you have visited recently, your credit card info, your sexual preferences, who you work for, your favorite sports team etc, will be public domain. However, there is a solution, I heard it in a speech by my favorite man!.....
To quote J.Jackson
"If you choose, to use, your paaaaspoorrt,.. you desseerve to looooose yo privacy! Ahmen Brotha.. If you chooooses, to usess, an Allllternatitivvvve oppperatin system, such as my dear brotha's-- Leeeenux, and Bee eSss Deee, (that stands fo Brotha's Standdd Dogetha), or my personal fave, Mac OS X (Staand togetha now!!!! Hear me clear?) then you have notttthing to fearrrrr!!! Ahhhmmeeeenn Brotttha!.... For We Maaaayyy be fewww (Yes!, Yesssss!) and we Maaayyy be poooorrr (praisse godddd!), but we are brotha's in arms, Hallejjjjulla Brottttha!, Praissee the Loooooooooorrrrrrdd! The Lorrrrd does not need a passport, NO!!!. The Lord does not need Micros$$$$$ft, NO!!! He praises each and every one of of you, who do not commit the siiiiiinns of the ignoorant! Yea! He praises and encourages alllllll thooose who strive for freedom and equalitya on the Woooorld Wiiiiide Weeebbbbbb! Yeaah Brotha!!!
If you are stuuupid enough to paaaaayyy! for this craap! Then we are prayin for ya, yea , we prayin fo yo'soulll. For you have fallen inta the bad mannnss hannnds! Chill! I can save ya! Just say afta me..... haich tee tee peee colon slash shash, doubleya doubleya doubleya, dot, sourceforge, dot, net. Ahhhhhmmeeennnn and Hallelullghia Brotha! Peace be wit you!"
That was the best speech I have ever heard!!!! Vote Jackson!
In the light of your failure to elect a President of the USA and thus to govern yourselves, we hereby give notice of the revocation of your independence, effective today.
Her Sovereign Majesty Queen Elizabeth II will resume monarchical duties over all states, commonwealths and other territories. Except Utah, which she does not fancy.
Your new prime minister (The rt. Hon. Tony Blair, MP for the 97.85% of you who have until now been unaware that there is a world outside your borders) will appoint a minister for America without the need for further elections. Congress and the Senate will be disbanded. A questionnaire will be circulated next year to determine whether any of you noticed.
To aid in the transition to a British Crown Dependency, the following rules are introduced with immediate effect:
1. You should look up "revocation" in the Oxford English Dictionary. Then look up "aluminium". Check the pronunciation guide. You will be amazed at just how wrongly you have been pronouncing it. Generally, you should raise your vocabulary to acceptable levels. Look up "vocabulary". Using the same twenty seven words interspersed with filler noises such as "like" and "you know" is an unacceptable and inefficient form of communication. Look up "interspersed".
2. There is no such thing as "US English". We will let Microsoft know on your behalf.
3. You should learn to distinguish the English and Australian accents. It really isn't that hard.
4. Hollywood will be required occasionally to cast English actors as the good guys.
5. You should relearn your original national anthem, "God Save The Queen", but only after fully carrying out task 1. We would not want you to get confused and give up half way through.
6. You should stop playing American "football". There is only one kind of football. What you refer to as American "football" is not a very good game. The 2.15% of you who are aware that there is a world outside your borders may have noticed that no one else plays "American" football. You will no longer be allowed to play it, and should instead play proper football. Initially, it would be best if you played with the girls. It is a difficult game. Those of you brave enough will, in time, be allowed to play rugby (which is similar to American "football", but does not involve stopping for a rest every twenty seconds or wearing full kevlar body armour like nancies). We are hoping to get together at least a US rugby sevens side by 2005.
7. You should declare war on Quebec and France, using nuclear weapons if they give you any merde. The 97.85% of you who were not aware that there is a world outside your borders should count yourselves lucky. The Russians have never been the bad guys. "Merde" is French for "sh*t".
8. July 4th is no longer a public holiday. November 8th will be a new national holiday, but only in England. It will be called "Indecisive Day".
9. All American cars are hereby banned. They are crap and it is for your own good. When we show you German cars, you will understand what we mean.
10. Please tell us who killed JFK. It's been driving us crazy.
I'm sure many DJ's would be willing to pay for access a high bandwidth distribution system to allow them to download hifi versions (CD quality at least) of whatever they want. Radio stations would use the same or a similar service.
And for the DJ that has the vinyl version....two thumbs up. The good DJ's can tell what a crowd wants in spite of requests. A good DJ is on top of the current music scene and knows the relations to the past. I doubt they would dislike access to a huge collection.
What would you be willing to pay for legal access to a huge database of music? Think about what highschool and college kids are currently spending on pagers and cellphones. Generally more than $5/month! Therefore it is a reasonable concept to assume that many people would be willing to spend $5-10/month to access large music databases legally. If Napster pulls this off with RIAA approval, the entire business will change. Napster will be able to checksum your downloads to be sure they are "certified versions" and eliminate the partial download problem that is a major problem with the existing system. They will probably make enough cash to host their own certified servers for access to the hottest titles, allowing tracking of bonus payments where appropriate and keeping the service useable. More importantly, companies will be able to market Napster enabled stereo systems that have phone and ethernet jacks and huge hard drives for collection storage (wireless on high end models). The song info database will be designed for easy search/access to that favorite tune. Imagine going up to the DJ at your local party/rave and not being limited to his/her personal collection.
And the best part of all of this...the record companies will have less power to force songs down the throat of the consumer as more users will just select the download songs similar to those in my collection (based on a song rating/review system) for my listening pleasure.
Think of the many ways that this could benefit the music lover. Payment based on download activity has the possibility of weakening the crushing grip that record companies have on "popular music". We might be able to spread the wealth a little and prevent me from having to switch channels every time Brittney or Eninem (sp?) or whoever is being pushed at me by the record biz, and instead allow me to create my own database and find similar music (sprinkled with new suggestions, thumbs up or down Tivo style) and enjoy it.
I want Napster to become mainstream. It will change everything! For the better!
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Does the way this it getting reported in the media remind anyone else of columbine. They already have the loner tag front and center. Next they will also discover his love of video games. There may not be a serious discussion about hate speech and the 1st amendment, which IMO is the real issue here.
who know something about the field of the idea.
it is a sad day, hopefully Obama or Feingold will filibuster this in the senate.
They should shave used an analogy like this:
a conga line moving through a party, with a guy on the end of the line selectively inserting pretty women into his place at the end on the line, and then grabbing their waists and following the chain until another suitable female is found to insert. This continues until all suitable females have been added to the line.
That at least accurately cartoons the ROMP reaction.
At the time of my OP no data had been confirmed, even now we only have a press conference to go by. Although I believe in their belief of a successful mission, show me the money!
If indeed we get a full data stream back from Huygens, (which I think we will) I say hats off of the Huygens team and the Cassini team. Great Work!
BTW, that was not a plug, but a real concern.
It's called science, show me the data
Y
check with #space on irc.freenode.net to know when this really is confirmed.
Y
Please stop by and check it out.
Y
please join our irc channel #space on irc.freenode.net
;-)
This channel is devoted to discussion of space science, current, past and future space missions.
This channel is frequented by a lot of knowledgeable folk. And please keep the discussion on topic
Y
Actually, everyone has been well behaved.
But then we have a swearing kick bot and many ops to take care of trouble makers.
The discussion is good, civil and space focussed.
Y
Yea, I cannot find any links or info on a c-span cassini broadcast tonight. I suspect the parent comment was hoping there would be based on previous c-span coverage of other space events. Can anyone confirm? If not parent is highly overrated.
Y
For those interested, folks in the channel #space on irc.freenode.net will be discussing this. Please join in!
Y
This story is BS. Slashdot owes it's existance to DARPA. DARPA funded the creation of resiliant networking and ended up with TCP/IP. DARPA funds a lot of projects, they are looking for stuff that geeks will consider "news" in 10-15 years. This story is currently hype but it may be real in the future. DARPA is a friend to many geeks.
Don't bite the hand (at least based on this story).
Y
Which version of windows are you referring to? XP/2000? We have the same issues on the mac platform. Some versions support features that the others do not. Your mum is probably dependant on a version that does not support feature x. This is why the Airport solution is elegant. It does not require you to run a particular version of the OS (as long as it supports 802.11).
Y
Yes! However, last christmas 10.2 was not available. As I said, the OS should take care of this for you. It's good to see that apple get's this concept. Even if they are slow in implementation.
I'll see my sister in a month or so and plan to do my xmas duty to make sure she (and my folks) have the best set-up available.
Y
While I am not Jamie Porshe. I set up my folks with a wireless airport network that would automatically connect to their DSL whenever they accessed an app that required the "net". Six months later, my sister, who has the same ISP asked me how I was able to have my parents connect automatically...she always has to use Internet Connect when accessing the net. I told her that I had configured the Airport to connect automatically...She now is deciding whether it is worth buying an Airport to forgo having to connect each time.
My folks are very happy with their set up.
Think of the hours of wasted time saved by some software that does a routine task.
I did my part last christmas, but this shit should not even be necessary. The OS should automatically configure things for people.
Y
If you read Finlays missive carefully, he raises the question as to whether Darwin is really OPEN source and whether it will succeed the way Linux and BSD have by attracting outside developers to contribute. His main arguments are that the bug tracking system "Radar" is not open and that they make it too legally difficult for anyone (even older than 18) to become a Darwin committer. These are very valid concerns and much more important than whether 15 year olds can sign an NDA....If Darwin is truly open source, no NDA should be required!
So, what do you think? Will Darwin be successful as an open source project or is it a closed source project masquerading as an open source project?
Y
Sounds to me like you have never used OS X (or BeOS for that matter). If you were truly a jedi knight of the command line, you would have little trouble with OS X. I think you have only been trained by yoda (Solaris/Linux etc) and not by Obi-Wan (bsd, next).
If I am wrong, please tell me how the CLI on OS X is gutted or malformed.
Y
Here's the scene..The excite@home network provides access for ~4-5 million customers. ~900,000 of those are att@home customers. AT&T wants excite to go bankrupt so that they can buy Excite for a steal at 300 mil or so. AT&T does not have a broadband network of their own yet. They cannot possibly convert all their customers over to AT&T unless they buy broadband networks from someone (namely excite!). The other companies dealing with Excite are Cox, Comcast and Charter. Cox and Comcast at negociating new deals with Excite. Charter has their own broadband network (Pipeline) to convert customers over to. AT&T is playing a chicken game with Excite right now. Excite has played the latest card (bluff?) and shut off all the AT&T at home suscribers. Charter has switched all their customers over to Pipeline. I'm not sure what Cox and Comcast are doing but I do know that they are re-negociating contracts with excite right now and have treated Excite with respect. Excite has responded in kind. They have told AT&T to FSCK OFF and tried to keep the others online.
I'll be willing to bet that many customers will switch from AT&T to DSL or other competitors unless AT&T agrees to pay a reasonable amount to acquire the Excite network within the next few days.
Bottom line...AT&T is losing money fast and pissing off many customers right now. I'll bet they offer excite >450 million on monday!
This wil be interesting. I'm just glad I have charter (now Pipeline) service.
Y
A package installer for the wavelan driver can be found at http://homepage.mac.com/yuriwho
of course if you have the new dev tools (free from ADC) you can compile the driver yourself from the wirelessdriver sources at http://sourceforge.net/projects/wirelessdriver (you'll also need the IOPCCardFamily headers from darwin to compile it)
Pretty Simple really. Steve did not want the true OS X comming out party to be a flop. He did not want it remembered for being insensitive to the crisis at hand. He would rather quietly release 10.1 in the specified time frame (Seybold) and let the passion of the Mac Faithful and new adoptees, with their newly aroused patriotism, be the show.
I think it is a good call.
to quote bubya
"We will make no distinction between the terrorists who committed these acts and those who harbor them,"
This line is very significant. It sets the stage for Bush to direct the armed forces/cia/nsa etc to strike boldly and generally at any all terrorists and the countries they live in. Be prepared to watch video's of smart bombs taking out buildings and compounds in countries around the world, esp. the middle east.
And the follow-up to these attacks: more terrorism, heaven forbid a couple of suitcase nuclear devices are involved.
This war is un-winable!
Whatever happened to the day of war commanders sending messages (on horseback/foot) to one another before deciding to let their soldiers storm into death and battle.
I sincerely hope dubya doesn't over react, he should listen to his european counterparts that have been dealing with terrorism (albeit on a smaller scale) for decades.
Get ready, this could get a lot worse in the next decade before it gets better.
Y
That's right, if you follow this mantra then you must agree that ultimately all of your information will be free on the net...what sites you have visited recently, your credit card info, your sexual preferences, who you work for, your favorite sports team etc, will be public domain. However, there is a solution, I heard it in a speech by my favorite man!.....
.. you desseerve to looooose yo privacy! Ahmen Brotha.. If you chooooses, to usess, an Allllternatitivvvve oppperatin system, such as my dear brotha's-- Leeeenux, and Bee eSss Deee, (that stands fo Brotha's Standdd Dogetha), or my personal fave, Mac OS X (Staand togetha now!!!! Hear me clear?) then you have notttthing to fearrrrr!!! Ahhhmmeeeenn Brotttha!.... For We Maaaayyy be fewww (Yes!, Yesssss!) and we Maaayyy be poooorrr (praisse godddd!), but we are brotha's in arms, Hallejjjjulla Brottttha!, Praissee the Loooooooooorrrrrrdd! The Lorrrrd does not need a passport, NO!!!. The Lord does not need Micros$$$$$ft, NO!!! He praises each and every one of of you, who do not commit the siiiiiinns of the ignoorant! Yea! He praises and encourages alllllll thooose who strive for freedom and equalitya on the Woooorld Wiiiiide Weeebbbbbb! Yeaah Brotha!!!
To quote J.Jackson
"If you choose, to use, your paaaaspoorrt,
If you are stuuupid enough to paaaaayyy! for this craap! Then we are prayin for ya, yea , we prayin fo yo'soulll. For you have fallen inta the bad mannnss hannnds! Chill! I can save ya! Just say afta me..... haich tee tee peee colon slash shash, doubleya doubleya doubleya, dot, sourceforge, dot, net. Ahhhhhmmeeennnn and Hallelullghia Brotha! Peace be wit you!"
That was the best speech I have ever heard!!!! Vote Jackson!
Y
To the citizens of the United States of America,
In the light of your failure to elect a President of the USA and thus to govern yourselves, we hereby give notice of the revocation of your independence, effective today.
Her Sovereign Majesty Queen Elizabeth II will resume monarchical duties over all states, commonwealths and other territories. Except Utah, which she does not fancy.
Your new prime minister (The rt. Hon. Tony Blair, MP for the 97.85% of you who have until now been unaware that there is a world outside your borders) will appoint a minister for America without the need for further elections. Congress and the Senate will be disbanded. A questionnaire will be circulated next year to determine whether any of you noticed.
To aid in the transition to a British Crown Dependency, the following rules are introduced with immediate effect:
1. You should look up "revocation" in the Oxford English Dictionary. Then look up "aluminium". Check the pronunciation guide. You will be amazed at just how wrongly you have been pronouncing it. Generally, you should raise your vocabulary to acceptable levels. Look up "vocabulary". Using the same twenty seven words interspersed with filler noises such as "like" and "you know" is an unacceptable and inefficient form of communication. Look up "interspersed".
2. There is no such thing as "US English". We will let Microsoft know on your behalf.
3. You should learn to distinguish the English and Australian accents. It really isn't that hard.
4. Hollywood will be required occasionally to cast English actors as the good guys.
5. You should relearn your original national anthem, "God Save The Queen", but only after fully carrying out task 1. We would not want you to get confused and give up half way through.
6. You should stop playing American "football". There is only one kind of football. What you refer to as American "football" is not a very good game. The 2.15% of you who are aware that there is a world outside your borders may have noticed that no one else plays "American" football. You will no longer be allowed to play it, and should instead play proper football. Initially, it would be best if you played with the girls. It is a difficult game. Those of you brave enough will, in time, be allowed to play rugby (which is similar to American "football", but does not involve stopping for a rest every twenty seconds or wearing full kevlar body armour like nancies). We are hoping to get together at least a US rugby sevens side by 2005.
7. You should declare war on Quebec and France, using nuclear weapons if they give you any merde. The 97.85% of you who were not aware that there is a world outside your borders should count yourselves lucky. The Russians have never been the bad guys. "Merde" is French for "sh*t".
8. July 4th is no longer a public holiday. November 8th will be a new national holiday, but only in England. It will be called "Indecisive Day".
9. All American cars are hereby banned. They are crap and it is for your own good. When we show you German cars, you will understand what we mean.
10. Please tell us who killed JFK. It's been driving us crazy.
Thank you for your cooperation.
I'm sure many DJ's would be willing to pay for access a high bandwidth distribution system to allow them to download hifi versions (CD quality at least) of whatever they want. Radio stations would use the same or a similar service.
And for the DJ that has the vinyl version....two thumbs up. The good DJ's can tell what a crowd wants in spite of requests. A good DJ is on top of the current music scene and knows the relations to the past. I doubt they would dislike access to a huge collection.
Y
What would you be willing to pay for legal access to a huge database of music? Think about what highschool and college kids are currently spending on pagers and cellphones. Generally more than $5/month! Therefore it is a reasonable concept to assume that many people would be willing to spend $5-10/month to access large music databases legally. If Napster pulls this off with RIAA approval, the entire business will change. Napster will be able to checksum your downloads to be sure they are "certified versions" and eliminate the partial download problem that is a major problem with the existing system. They will probably make enough cash to host their own certified servers for access to the hottest titles, allowing tracking of bonus payments where appropriate and keeping the service useable. More importantly, companies will be able to market Napster enabled stereo systems that have phone and ethernet jacks and huge hard drives for collection storage (wireless on high end models). The song info database will be designed for easy search/access to that favorite tune. Imagine going up to the DJ at your local party/rave and not being limited to his/her personal collection.
And the best part of all of this...the record companies will have less power to force songs down the throat of the consumer as more users will just select the download songs similar to those in my collection (based on a song rating/review system) for my listening pleasure.
Think of the many ways that this could benefit the music lover. Payment based on download activity has the possibility of weakening the crushing grip that record companies have on "popular music". We might be able to spread the wealth a little and prevent me from having to switch channels every time Brittney or Eninem (sp?) or whoever is being pushed at me by the record biz, and instead allow me to create my own database and find similar music (sprinkled with new suggestions, thumbs up or down Tivo style) and enjoy it.
I want Napster to become mainstream. It will change everything! For the better!