This may be a dupe, but just about now the last IBM 75GXP failed. It's great to know what we shall do with them. The story back in feb was a tad to early.
A personal firewall isn't good enough. If the software who is phoning home disables the firewall you wouldn't notice. A firewall needs to be on it's own secure box.
So what you are saying that Unixes should not have a standard windowing system. Apple has possibly come up with something good here. Something that can help Unix in general, but they are holding back.
Every Unix vendor (Including apple) can't have there own ways of doing things because Unix becomes fragmented, I'm not willing to code for 10 different systems when one is enough.
Portability beetween system is always put in high regards with Unix programmers. Today for most of us Apples solution is not the answer when it comes to a GUI.
If they released the spec and serioulsy tried for Aqua to be the standard I would be very happy with Apple in the Unix market. As you say, they do a lot of other things the right way.
I'm going to giva Apple/OS X a flame here so hold on to your hats.
I do not think Apple are making the other Unix/BSD/Linux vendors any favours. Unix has traditionally had problems with fragmentation. With the help of POSIX, GNU tools and other open source software this has been alot better.
Now we see Apple intruducing a whole desktop system for Unix without any open specifications. Many of us run Un*x on the desktop, possibly different kind at work and at home. We need open standards.
If apple are going to play with other Unixes please do it with other Unixes and release those specs. If you are serious and think you have the best Unix out there people will still buy your computers.
As you can see I don't have anything against the Aqua interface or Mac OS X when it comes to the technical merits. I would probably give it a shot if the specs for the Windowing System where open. Possibly even buy a mac. But as it isn't a standard I can't use it, as a standard windowing system is quite a big deal for Unix.
And I know I can still run X on Macs/Darwin but I don't want to as I don't think Apple as a company are doing the right thing for Unix. I don't think Office X would be realeased for Solaris/Linux/FreeBSD anyway(and I don't care) so Macs would still have a great advantage over the other Unixes.
Do you think Linux users would jump ship over to OS X if it where available for x86. I don't think so. We know our great and stable systems. OS X might be shiny but it isn't anyway near proven.
There are alot of us who would never code for a properiaty windowing system if it wasn't necesarry. Why should we run X on darwin when we already got Linux?
They should have included errormessages in HTML when it started off. Do you think I want a C compiler where I don't have to close the brackets or not being warned about odd coding practises, or just leaving out main() and still being able to compile it as a standalone exe. No I don't.
Life would have been easier for those bannerhackers, to bad they don't realise it.
The biggest problem I have with VB (Apart from not understanding paint-programming very well) is that it locks you to the Windows OS. If you for some reason need to change OS (Or possibly release your program on another OS) you have to redo your work. Using C/C++, java, perl, python or whatever runs perfectly on every major OS. Add to that that you can use crossplatform libraries and you are all set for the future.
The same thing can of course be said about many tecnologies, not only VB. And not only MS.
[quote] You can't sell the code and give it away at the same time [/quote]
First off, the GPL isn't giving something away. It's a licence with restrictions. Look at Trolltech with QT. They have different licences (pay and nonpay) for different audiences.
They could sell the code to 20 different buyers without the (Give back to community restriction) and still GPL.
This is built into the.NET Framework. Run ngen.exe on any.NET.exe or.dll and the MSIL is precompiled into an optimized native binary. In fact, setups for.NET apps can do this on the assemblies they install. Indeed, the.NET Framework actually precompiles its managed shared.dlls on install time.
And with.NET you wouldn't miss anything since it only works on windows. Until there is a framework for Unix, Mac and Amiga it shouldn't be compared to Java.
There is a minireview on that site. Here it comes.
I have been involved with a lot of recent discussions about Old Games vs New Games and Gameplay vs Graphics. If I could give only one example to prove that graphics are largely irrelevant when great gameplay is present then Bilzzard Pass would be that example.
I can objectively state that Blizzard Pass is THE greatest adventure game of all time, on any platform. The fact that it was designed for a machine with 128k of RAM is a testament to just how little graphics actually matter.
The game controls are comprised of a basic text-line interface below static images and, for the most part, many of the commands are triggered by one letter (eg: N for Go North, U for Go Up, etc). It is not easy by any stretch of the imagination and will take somewhere in the region of 80-100 hours to complete. I will not go into the story, because I do not want to spoil it for anyone, but I can assure you that it is rich and deep and will captivate you almost as much as the puzzles, problem solving and logic that are at the core of this classic game.
It's very funny how you could relate that to Linux vs windows. Interface etc. I wonder which game Bill wrote 1986. I'm sure it was full of colors, mostly blue.
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This may be a dupe, but just about now the last IBM 75GXP failed. It's great to know what we shall do with them. The story back in feb was a tad to early.
A personal firewall isn't good enough. If the software who is phoning home disables the firewall you wouldn't notice. A firewall needs to be on it's own secure box.
So what you are saying that Unixes should not have a standard windowing system. Apple has possibly come up with something good here. Something that can help Unix in general, but they are holding back.
Every Unix vendor (Including apple) can't have there own ways of doing things because Unix becomes fragmented, I'm not willing to code for 10 different systems when one is enough.
Portability beetween system is always put in high regards with Unix programmers. Today for most of us Apples solution is not the answer when it comes to a GUI.
If they released the spec and serioulsy tried for Aqua to be the standard I would be very happy with Apple in the Unix market. As you say, they do a lot of other things the right way.
I'm going to giva Apple/OS X a flame here so hold on to your hats.
I do not think Apple are making the other Unix/BSD/Linux vendors any favours. Unix has traditionally had problems with fragmentation. With the help of POSIX, GNU tools and other open source software this has been alot better.
Now we see Apple intruducing a whole desktop system for Unix without any open specifications. Many of us run Un*x on the desktop, possibly different kind at work and at home. We need open standards.
If apple are going to play with other Unixes please do it with other Unixes and release those specs. If you are serious and think you have the best Unix out there people will still buy your computers.
As you can see I don't have anything against the Aqua interface or Mac OS X when it comes to the technical merits. I would probably give it a shot if the specs for the Windowing System where open. Possibly even buy a mac. But as it isn't a standard I can't use it, as a standard windowing system is quite a big deal for Unix.
And I know I can still run X on Macs/Darwin but I don't want to as I don't think Apple as a company are doing the right thing for Unix. I don't think Office X would be realeased for Solaris/Linux/FreeBSD anyway(and I don't care) so Macs would still have a great advantage over the other Unixes.
Just my thoughts on Apple/OS X.
Are there any good virus protection programs for Linux? If so do they compare to Nortan
As far as compability go I don't think there is one no. Maybe they can handle 5 or 6 viruses, but thats it.
When that site asks to set a cookie, don't accept.
Next time they need to put up a beuwolf cluster of this.
- why do you want to downgrade your system?!
You are talking about FreeBSD here you know. A proven player in the OS field for years. I would say it gots it strengths. Like a standard GUI.
Do you think Linux users would jump ship over to OS X if it where available for x86. I don't think so. We know our great and stable systems. OS X might be shiny but it isn't anyway near proven.
There are alot of us who would never code for a properiaty windowing system if it wasn't necesarry. Why should we run X on darwin when we already got Linux?
get hold of copies before joe public
So he runs Linux afterall..
They should have included errormessages in HTML when it started off. Do you think I want a C compiler where I don't have to close the brackets or not being warned about odd coding practises, or just leaving out main() and still being able to compile it as a standalone exe. No I don't.
Life would have been easier for those bannerhackers, to bad they don't realise it.
Not even a year.
/root]# uptime /root]# uname -a /root]#
[root@index
3:17am up 378 days, 9:36, 7 users, load average: 0.00, 0.02, 0.00
[root@index
Linux index 2.2.16-22 #1 Tue Aug 22 16:16:55 EDT 2000 i586 unknown
[root@index
Indexing data. Being a P133 it doesn't take much to put this one at 100% cpu. Still going strong.
If that is the case it wasn't really his to begin with which means no giveaway occured at all.
The biggest problem I have with VB (Apart from not understanding paint-programming very well) is that it locks you to the Windows OS. If you for some reason need to change OS (Or possibly release your program on another OS) you have to redo your work. Using C/C++, java, perl, python or whatever runs perfectly on every major OS. Add to that that you can use crossplatform libraries and you are all set for the future.
The same thing can of course be said about many tecnologies, not only VB. And not only MS.
So, when will "SUSE: Hot date" be out?
I was going to rate you funny but then I remember I actully bought that yesterday. So, who are the other two?
To bad they haven't come up with a sollution to actully retrive the data. I have allready filed for "open" and "open with". $$$ comming in.
The point was accelerated 3D not "software" 3D.
The amiga had filling of polygons in 1985 using the blitter. $DFF058 was the register use to fire up that beast if I remember correclty.
[quote]
You can't sell the code and give it away at the same time
[/quote]
First off, the GPL isn't giving something away. It's a licence with restrictions. Look at Trolltech with QT. They have different licences (pay and nonpay) for different audiences.
They could sell the code to 20 different buyers without the (Give back to community restriction) and still GPL.
Programming is an art, everybody knows that.
How many of you out there write faster than you type?
But it seems easier on the first thought. Thats what counts for losers.
Even the best of Linux desktops look cheap in comparison to OS X. Really really cheap.
You know, everybody don't like Aqua. No offense, but I think it looks kinda gay.
When will the first LILO virus be out :)
This is built into the
And with
Link to blizzard pass, the game Alan wrote.
There is a minireview on that site. Here it comes.
I have been involved with a lot of recent discussions about Old Games vs New Games and Gameplay vs Graphics. If I could give only one example to prove that graphics are largely irrelevant when great gameplay is present then Bilzzard Pass would be that example.
I can objectively state that Blizzard Pass is THE greatest adventure game of all time, on any platform. The fact that it was designed for a machine with 128k of RAM is a testament to just how little graphics actually matter.
The game controls are comprised of a basic text-line interface below static images and, for the most part, many of the commands are triggered by one letter (eg: N for Go North, U for Go Up, etc). It is not easy by any stretch of the imagination and will take somewhere in the region of 80-100 hours to complete. I will not go into the story, because I do not want to spoil it for anyone, but I can assure you that it is rich and deep and will captivate you almost as much as the puzzles, problem solving and logic that are at the core of this classic game.
It's very funny how you could relate that to Linux vs windows. Interface etc. I wonder which game Bill wrote 1986. I'm sure it was full of colors, mostly blue.