Just out of curiosity, since you're all so knowledgeable on the topic, is this for all digital cable, or US-only?
As time goes by I get more and more worried about what happens to things like cable; once it was free, then we started paying "to remove commercials", now they put commercials everywhere, and now they're selectively telling us what can or can't play TV...
If it wasn't for the fact that there is no such thing as IPTV, or at least the better channels haven't done it, I'd drop cable entirely given the chance.
Ever since the Cuban Missile incident, I'm pretty sure Moscow and Washington have been wired to each other. With the protocol that if somebody wants to fight dirty, they have to make the call.
Then there's the fact that Soviet Union and the US had a silent non-destruction pact; that if Soviet subs were shot down in US training that the russians would simply back off, and that the americans would do the same. Vice versa too. I don't think they alerted each other of their presence, but maybe they did. Body would be sent back, saying they died in training and that was that. The soviets lost a fair 30-60 subs because of accidents at sea, americans lost about half of that.
So I'm hoping they'd be intelligent enough to call each other first and say "Alright. We're declaring war, and we're using our nuclear arsenal.". But who hits each other with nukes anyway? It would much quicker be Russia calling the US or vice versa saying "Oh shit, did you catch that asteroid hitting X city?"
I use Xubuntu 6.06 on a Celeron 500MHz, integrated intel video that seems to be dying, and 192MB of RAM...
Far from lightning fast; boot up is about a minute. It also takes a fair 7 seconds to have my desktop working, but GAIM & Opera 9.27 are autostarted, and I'm using a Murrine theme... If I had a video card and was running XFWM with compositing it'd be quicker... But no room for that in a silly Dell computer.
Overall it's very nice if you have enough RAM. Even though Xfce by itself uses 60MB according to Conky it can climb quickly enough. To be honest I never feel bottlenecked CPU-wise but occasionally I start to get quite near the 180MB level with a lot hitting swap, especially when trying to run those two apps & inkscape or firefox2 with some flash stuff...
Still planning to try out Debian though, because 6.06 is archaic and to be honest I don't have enough CDs to keep up with ubuntu's upgrade treadmill.
Well then we'll show up in arms and impeach the bastards out of parliament.
Unless somebody wants to inform me that now we can't boot elected officials from office?
And yes, Harper is a massive puppet... But what were we to do? Not like Paul Martin had anything left in him, Chretien was long killed, and you'll get laughed out of the room if you think the NDP will win an election.
It's incredibly stupid mostly because of the fact that a C7 ULV is rated at something like 7W with the chipset included...
Doesn't matter if it's slow but rather if it's low-wattage. Makes no sense however that it only lasts 3 hours; for fuck's sake my DS Lite does 30h+ in GBA mode with the backlight mostly off.
Oh, and are you sure it's the 1.6GHz or 2GHz models being rated as equivs of a 900MHz P3? Sometimes they aren't too clear on what they review... But even then, C7 was nothing like other desktop CPUs from Intel & AMD. Totally different philosophy, you need to compare it to a x86 XScale.
Yes, but if you're damn determined, you could even rebuild Tales of Symphonia. Sure, it's much longer than trying to copy a song or a movie, but it's possible if you seriously have to try that hard.
And nobody seems to remember that TPM could be bypassed entirely. All it takes is for one person to crack his TPM chip, and it's game over. Even then, what about VMs where TPM is virtualised?
The string, 09F911029D74E35BD84156C5635688C0, preserved here to remind the media companies that they're full of shit, was found within days IIRC. But it took some time for people to write apps that would rip HD DVDs and remove AACS.
BD+ hasn't been circumvented to my knowledge, but a grand total of what, 2 movies have used it, and both have been recalled in insane quantities because they barely work. And to be honest who really gives a damn about blurry?
To be honest, I don't care about "DRM" on a console... The so-called DRM used in the Wii at this point is fine by me; normal play is not stopped, and modding it is still possible with enough effort. Just like with the DS.
What I really don't like though, and what I care about, is when the DRM is forced on me in an "essential" place. I can not buy a Wii; it's my choice to try and buy one. But DRM on my fucking motherboard? You're out of your mind. Get that AIDS off of there. I bought this and I damn well will use it as I like. Give TPM to those who want it, I don't.
Of course, at the end of the day, the only DRM system that really works is none. (DRM for online play is another story.) Give me freedom and I'll buy your game. I'm not going to buy a shit game like BioShock that might hose my OS. No thanks. I'll play a better game and buy a DS game or two with the 50$+ I saved
Alternatively you could drop nautilus and imagemagick's utility for ROX-filer. Excellent little file manager, just needs a menu bar IMHO for those of us who plan not to use it with ROX... Or it wouldn't even be too hard to write in yourself, would it? It's nice the way it is normally anyway, just looks a bit odd.
Handles desktop items too. Running with IceWM it generally sits on ~50MB/60MB of RAM, but as we know wasted RAM is wasted RAM so I'm thinking they suck up as much as they can.
Xfce's panel can use Gnome's plugins, you just need a special xfce-panel plugin for it...
I like Xfce a lot too. EDE reminds me of Windows 98. However it feels way too rough around the edges; windows 98 had a special feel to it. I'm thinking it's a FLTK issue though.
For the curious, Xfce runs speedily on my Celeron 500MHz using ~60MB by the way... Of course I use murrine, but still.
And the funny thing is the Wii will outlast all the other consoles, simply in amount of sheer lifespan...
If it wasn't for internal clock issues, 100% of all NES and SNESs would still be operational. They were built to last. The gameboy color survived the gulf war. The DS lite isn't all that strong but the fat was; and the GameCube & N64 were near indestructable. (well, gamecube was mostly the console & controllers, because discs scratch)
33% of all xbox360s failed. Even with the revision they continue to fail. The PS3 uses an insane amount of energy all throughout its process; the Cell fab process, the re-tooling of DVD factories for blurry, and the actual power consumption of the package...
Nintendo might use incredibly strong plastics that might be bad for the enivornment; except, I ask you, how many nintendo consoles of yours have failed? How many have you thrown out?
As a kid, you know, back in the days before I found out about "piracy" and free software, Corel Chess was one of the funnest chess games ever. Borrowed it from the local library so many times...
3D, had all sorts of cool themes (glass, roman, medieval, and simpler ones too) and was probably designed for really old CPUs so it ran great...
Sadly I can't find anything that nice, other than Vista's Chess...
I knew it was scaringly familiar to nVidia/ATI's numbering schemes...
Of course, who the heck would pair a "9" processor with a whole bunch of crap? And you'd hope that the vendor would have some goodness and put up a chart explaining what each number meant... They make a killing on HTPC-like "media" computers don't they? This would be to their benefit.
Building on that, it could be 2008 Performance WXYZ. 2008 being the year the parts were released; because a E8400 could be performance now but be mediocre by the end of the year. Or 2008.Month. So 2008.11
W: Processor rating, 1 is crap, 9 is "Extreme"/"Black Edition" overclocked to hell and back X: Video card rating, same as above. HD3650 would get a 6 (best at 1024x768), 8400GS would get a 2, 9600GT a 7, 8800GT an 8 (but only for 2007), 8800Ultra/9800GTX a 9. Y: Hard drive performance; faster hard drives, such as ones with 32MB of cache, rate higher up. Z: Amount of RAM. Higher gives a higher number; 16GB would be a 9, 8GB around a 8, 4GB a 7, etc.
As you can see the numbers go in "important-least important" order, so that the customer just needs the first few numbers to make an informed decision. Extra details can be added later, like whether the machine can do $year's games at 1080p or whatever.
It is flawed, however, if only because some parts can't really work in here. As you can see the 8800GT was released in 2007, but will probably remain competitive until mid/late 2009... So how would you class it? What about the other 9800 cards? I don't think nVidia would be happy telling consumers its new cards and old cards perform the same...
Oh, and both basic and premium would follow the same rankings; except "budget" parts would be in "basic", and high-performance parts would be in "premium". So the strongest thing you'll see in Budget is probably a X2 5000+ BE with an HD3850, or a Core 2 E4500/E6750 with a 9600GT. Of course, the Premium series would effectively have those as a minimum requirement.
Then boot your president out of office and boot out the politicians out of various offices?
In the land of the free, home of the brave, I sometimes wonder why you guys raged over Clinton receiving... Erm, services from his assistant... and haven't yet raged at crooked politicians and tried changing something...
In no place on earth would an entire country support a police state. At least, support in their minds, the one place where they can't get at you.
And who exactly is going to stand up to ex-KGB Putin and tell him his party stinks, he's wrong, and we're voting somebody else in?
Remember last year when the leader of only major party other than Putin's and the old communist party got arrested? Yeah, I can see how democratic intentions work in Russia...
But I don't know, maybe when Putin's gone things will lighten for them. And hopefully the economic growth would be carried too...
Adobe has (or will soon?) open up the SWF and FLV specs. So you should see a 100% working gnash soon enough. But of course it is still OK in the current stage like you said, just missing a fair amount to make it Flash8/9 compatible.
Are we suddenly damning Jews to hell now for not believing in Jesus? Because last I checked we're not...
That said, God does work in mysterious ways. Maybe they were visited by Jesus too. Hey, God visited the Jews so many times in the Old Testamen. If God had a side-experiment going, why not send Jesus there too?
In the words of my old religion teacher: "We are all God's children. Except, we're more like his adopted kids."
And of course, when you're sitting in a fairly packed subway every morning on your way to work, do you really want to hear somebody talking on their phone? A text message is discreet.
Not to mention my friends would be over that in an instant; you wouldn't believe the amount of texting that goes on in classrooms. Teachers, if you're browsing slashdot, always keep that in mind. Of course you can easily tell 99% of the time; hunched in a way, eyes drifting constantly, hands always in the same place...
Personally I'm not a fan of current SMS. I want to have an all-OS, USB device, that allows me to access the internet from anywhere, for 10$-20$ a month (even though it's probably not possible). Dialup speeds are good, actually more than enough. It would be much nicer to carry around an HP Mininote or smaller UMPC, and email/IM friends instead of trying to button mash for half an hour trying to print out a short sentence... Considering I have friends who pay 10$ a month over their plans to get unlimmited texting, this would be so much better.
Alternatively, the idiots running the cell companies should reimburse me these crazy fees every month if I refuse to text. And there should be an option to delete the text messaging service; it's possible to do it on plenty of phones but all it does is stop you from sending.
It would take miracle work, but the people in Mexico are jobless and jumping the border...
We set up highly automated factories in Mexico subsidised by the mexican government, and we build all our things right in our backyard. Canada supplies natural ressources & furniture & such, Mexico supplies the cheap shit the americans love. But like I said, we're talking serious miracle work here.
Speaking of Lebanon and muslims, you know what I just saw when I turned on my TV for the first time in the day?
Hezbollah has its armed cult storming around Beirut taking people out of buildings, and causing trouble in northern lebanon too... I think the fighting has stopped but they've killed a good 20 people. This coming from an organisation who's goal is, in part, to help make the entire Middle-East muslim, and to make Israel withdraw from an area that nobody really cares about anymore. (Sheeba Farms) And they do this as an illegal military force that the Lebanese Army can't take down themselves. (too bad Israel and the americans can't shoot them down already)
Just thought I'd toss this in here for the interested. Lovely when every year your country goes apeshit, isn't it?
Pre-civil war (so 1943-1970s) Lebanon was Switzerland of the Middle-East. Stable, beautiful history, big banking industry, the easy way to reach the ME. Large population that speaks French so easy for Europeans to deal with, and the population was something like 80% christian, 15% Sunni, 3% Druze.
Fast forward to today, Christians represent a quarter of the population, Sunnis are even rarer, the rest are all Shia muslims, mostly emmigrated from Syria and Iran, with military backing from those countries. They were the cause of the 2006 conflict that forced Israel to destroy much of southern Lebanon and the southern neighbourhoods of Beirut.
No, Lebanon is not a western country. Yes, I'm probably going to be modded troll and I guess I deserve it.
But the example is still there. What happens when Europe is flooded with muslims who want sharia law? What about those muslims who don't want it?
Yes, but strangely enough, the world's best game ever (Sid Meier's Alpha Centauri) does not run, at all. There is no sign of life whatsoever from it, no running plus crash, just no cigar.
The sad thing is, now that Loki is dead, that game is unplayable. Not even Loki's version will work properly and Vista will probably not run it properly either.
But then again, so many games are running better and better in Wine. Even though the world's most popular game series (Sims & Sims2) aren't working because of DRM, they've done an excellent job getting the WinAPI nailed.
Oh, before I forget: I remember a long time ago seeing this page, divided with tables and such, showing how close each wine DLL was to perfection... Does anybody have the link to it? It seems unaccessible from the front page...
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Just out of curiosity, since you're all so knowledgeable on the topic, is this for all digital cable, or US-only?
As time goes by I get more and more worried about what happens to things like cable; once it was free, then we started paying "to remove commercials", now they put commercials everywhere, and now they're selectively telling us what can or can't play TV...
If it wasn't for the fact that there is no such thing as IPTV, or at least the better channels haven't done it, I'd drop cable entirely given the chance.
Ever since the Cuban Missile incident, I'm pretty sure Moscow and Washington have been wired to each other. With the protocol that if somebody wants to fight dirty, they have to make the call.
Then there's the fact that Soviet Union and the US had a silent non-destruction pact; that if Soviet subs were shot down in US training that the russians would simply back off, and that the americans would do the same. Vice versa too. I don't think they alerted each other of their presence, but maybe they did. Body would be sent back, saying they died in training and that was that. The soviets lost a fair 30-60 subs because of accidents at sea, americans lost about half of that.
So I'm hoping they'd be intelligent enough to call each other first and say "Alright. We're declaring war, and we're using our nuclear arsenal.". But who hits each other with nukes anyway? It would much quicker be Russia calling the US or vice versa saying "Oh shit, did you catch that asteroid hitting X city?"
I use Xubuntu 6.06 on a Celeron 500MHz, integrated intel video that seems to be dying, and 192MB of RAM...
Far from lightning fast; boot up is about a minute. It also takes a fair 7 seconds to have my desktop working, but GAIM & Opera 9.27 are autostarted, and I'm using a Murrine theme... If I had a video card and was running XFWM with compositing it'd be quicker... But no room for that in a silly Dell computer.
Overall it's very nice if you have enough RAM. Even though Xfce by itself uses 60MB according to Conky it can climb quickly enough. To be honest I never feel bottlenecked CPU-wise but occasionally I start to get quite near the 180MB level with a lot hitting swap, especially when trying to run those two apps & inkscape or firefox2 with some flash stuff...
Still planning to try out Debian though, because 6.06 is archaic and to be honest I don't have enough CDs to keep up with ubuntu's upgrade treadmill.
Well then we'll show up in arms and impeach the bastards out of parliament.
Unless somebody wants to inform me that now we can't boot elected officials from office?
And yes, Harper is a massive puppet... But what were we to do? Not like Paul Martin had anything left in him, Chretien was long killed, and you'll get laughed out of the room if you think the NDP will win an election.
It's incredibly stupid mostly because of the fact that a C7 ULV is rated at something like 7W with the chipset included...
Doesn't matter if it's slow but rather if it's low-wattage. Makes no sense however that it only lasts 3 hours; for fuck's sake my DS Lite does 30h+ in GBA mode with the backlight mostly off.
Oh, and are you sure it's the 1.6GHz or 2GHz models being rated as equivs of a 900MHz P3? Sometimes they aren't too clear on what they review... But even then, C7 was nothing like other desktop CPUs from Intel & AMD. Totally different philosophy, you need to compare it to a x86 XScale.
I've received the perfect score. =)
http://www.iqleague.com/certificate/n9LjytSYn0y5JZqoAVDafg
Yes, but if you're damn determined, you could even rebuild Tales of Symphonia. Sure, it's much longer than trying to copy a song or a movie, but it's possible if you seriously have to try that hard.
And nobody seems to remember that TPM could be bypassed entirely. All it takes is for one person to crack his TPM chip, and it's game over. Even then, what about VMs where TPM is virtualised?
But AACS took about a month to "crack".
The string, 09F911029D74E35BD84156C5635688C0, preserved here to remind the media companies that they're full of shit, was found within days IIRC. But it took some time for people to write apps that would rip HD DVDs and remove AACS.
BD+ hasn't been circumvented to my knowledge, but a grand total of what, 2 movies have used it, and both have been recalled in insane quantities because they barely work. And to be honest who really gives a damn about blurry?
To be honest, I don't care about "DRM" on a console... The so-called DRM used in the Wii at this point is fine by me; normal play is not stopped, and modding it is still possible with enough effort. Just like with the DS.
What I really don't like though, and what I care about, is when the DRM is forced on me in an "essential" place. I can not buy a Wii; it's my choice to try and buy one. But DRM on my fucking motherboard? You're out of your mind. Get that AIDS off of there. I bought this and I damn well will use it as I like. Give TPM to those who want it, I don't.
Of course, at the end of the day, the only DRM system that really works is none. (DRM for online play is another story.) Give me freedom and I'll buy your game. I'm not going to buy a shit game like BioShock that might hose my OS. No thanks. I'll play a better game and buy a DS game or two with the 50$+ I saved
Alternatively you could drop nautilus and imagemagick's utility for ROX-filer. Excellent little file manager, just needs a menu bar IMHO for those of us who plan not to use it with ROX... Or it wouldn't even be too hard to write in yourself, would it? It's nice the way it is normally anyway, just looks a bit odd.
Handles desktop items too. Running with IceWM it generally sits on ~50MB/60MB of RAM, but as we know wasted RAM is wasted RAM so I'm thinking they suck up as much as they can.
Xfce's panel can use Gnome's plugins, you just need a special xfce-panel plugin for it...
I like Xfce a lot too. EDE reminds me of Windows 98. However it feels way too rough around the edges; windows 98 had a special feel to it. I'm thinking it's a FLTK issue though.
For the curious, Xfce runs speedily on my Celeron 500MHz using ~60MB by the way... Of course I use murrine, but still.
And the funny thing is the Wii will outlast all the other consoles, simply in amount of sheer lifespan...
If it wasn't for internal clock issues, 100% of all NES and SNESs would still be operational. They were built to last. The gameboy color survived the gulf war. The DS lite isn't all that strong but the fat was; and the GameCube & N64 were near indestructable. (well, gamecube was mostly the console & controllers, because discs scratch)
33% of all xbox360s failed. Even with the revision they continue to fail. The PS3 uses an insane amount of energy all throughout its process; the Cell fab process, the re-tooling of DVD factories for blurry, and the actual power consumption of the package...
Nintendo might use incredibly strong plastics that might be bad for the enivornment; except, I ask you, how many nintendo consoles of yours have failed? How many have you thrown out?
a good Chess game
I wonder if Corel Chess is still around?
As a kid, you know, back in the days before I found out about "piracy" and free software, Corel Chess was one of the funnest chess games ever. Borrowed it from the local library so many times...
3D, had all sorts of cool themes (glass, roman, medieval, and simpler ones too) and was probably designed for really old CPUs so it ran great...
Sadly I can't find anything that nice, other than Vista's Chess...
Ah, well, I guess I overlooked that one...
I knew it was scaringly familiar to nVidia/ATI's numbering schemes...
Of course, who the heck would pair a "9" processor with a whole bunch of crap? And you'd hope that the vendor would have some goodness and put up a chart explaining what each number meant... They make a killing on HTPC-like "media" computers don't they? This would be to their benefit.
Building on that, it could be 2008 Performance WXYZ. 2008 being the year the parts were released; because a E8400 could be performance now but be mediocre by the end of the year. Or 2008.Month. So 2008.11
W: Processor rating, 1 is crap, 9 is "Extreme"/"Black Edition" overclocked to hell and back
X: Video card rating, same as above. HD3650 would get a 6 (best at 1024x768), 8400GS would get a 2, 9600GT a 7, 8800GT an 8 (but only for 2007), 8800Ultra/9800GTX a 9.
Y: Hard drive performance; faster hard drives, such as ones with 32MB of cache, rate higher up.
Z: Amount of RAM. Higher gives a higher number; 16GB would be a 9, 8GB around a 8, 4GB a 7, etc.
As you can see the numbers go in "important-least important" order, so that the customer just needs the first few numbers to make an informed decision. Extra details can be added later, like whether the machine can do $year's games at 1080p or whatever.
It is flawed, however, if only because some parts can't really work in here. As you can see the 8800GT was released in 2007, but will probably remain competitive until mid/late 2009... So how would you class it? What about the other 9800 cards? I don't think nVidia would be happy telling consumers its new cards and old cards perform the same...
Oh, and both basic and premium would follow the same rankings; except "budget" parts would be in "basic", and high-performance parts would be in "premium". So the strongest thing you'll see in Budget is probably a X2 5000+ BE with an HD3850, or a Core 2 E4500/E6750 with a 9600GT. Of course, the Premium series would effectively have those as a minimum requirement.
Then boot your president out of office and boot out the politicians out of various offices?
In the land of the free, home of the brave, I sometimes wonder why you guys raged over Clinton receiving... Erm, services from his assistant... and haven't yet raged at crooked politicians and tried changing something...
In no place on earth would an entire country support a police state. At least, support in their minds, the one place where they can't get at you.
And who exactly is going to stand up to ex-KGB Putin and tell him his party stinks, he's wrong, and we're voting somebody else in?
Remember last year when the leader of only major party other than Putin's and the old communist party got arrested? Yeah, I can see how democratic intentions work in Russia...
But I don't know, maybe when Putin's gone things will lighten for them. And hopefully the economic growth would be carried too...
Cliché yes, but you must be new here.
Adobe has (or will soon?) open up the SWF and FLV specs. So you should see a 100% working gnash soon enough. But of course it is still OK in the current stage like you said, just missing a fair amount to make it Flash8/9 compatible.
And hey, guess what, ants will be here for a very long time to come.
And who knows, one day they might sprout flowers, walk on two legs, and live in bulbbed space craft...
I don't know, Asus's quality and services have been slipping with Gigabyte gobbling their lunch...
Maybe things are different on the non-linux side...
Are we suddenly damning Jews to hell now for not believing in Jesus? Because last I checked we're not...
That said, God does work in mysterious ways. Maybe they were visited by Jesus too. Hey, God visited the Jews so many times in the Old Testamen. If God had a side-experiment going, why not send Jesus there too?
In the words of my old religion teacher: "We are all God's children. Except, we're more like his adopted kids."
I've heard about that...
And of course, when you're sitting in a fairly packed subway every morning on your way to work, do you really want to hear somebody talking on their phone? A text message is discreet.
Not to mention my friends would be over that in an instant; you wouldn't believe the amount of texting that goes on in classrooms. Teachers, if you're browsing slashdot, always keep that in mind. Of course you can easily tell 99% of the time; hunched in a way, eyes drifting constantly, hands always in the same place...
Personally I'm not a fan of current SMS. I want to have an all-OS, USB device, that allows me to access the internet from anywhere, for 10$-20$ a month (even though it's probably not possible). Dialup speeds are good, actually more than enough. It would be much nicer to carry around an HP Mininote or smaller UMPC, and email/IM friends instead of trying to button mash for half an hour trying to print out a short sentence... Considering I have friends who pay 10$ a month over their plans to get unlimmited texting, this would be so much better.
Alternatively, the idiots running the cell companies should reimburse me these crazy fees every month if I refuse to text. And there should be an option to delete the text messaging service; it's possible to do it on plenty of phones but all it does is stop you from sending.
Not necessarily...
It would take miracle work, but the people in Mexico are jobless and jumping the border...
We set up highly automated factories in Mexico subsidised by the mexican government, and we build all our things right in our backyard. Canada supplies natural ressources & furniture & such, Mexico supplies the cheap shit the americans love. But like I said, we're talking serious miracle work here.
Speaking of Lebanon and muslims, you know what I just saw when I turned on my TV for the first time in the day?
Hezbollah has its armed cult storming around Beirut taking people out of buildings, and causing trouble in northern lebanon too... I think the fighting has stopped but they've killed a good 20 people. This coming from an organisation who's goal is, in part, to help make the entire Middle-East muslim, and to make Israel withdraw from an area that nobody really cares about anymore. (Sheeba Farms) And they do this as an illegal military force that the Lebanese Army can't take down themselves. (too bad Israel and the americans can't shoot them down already)
Just thought I'd toss this in here for the interested. Lovely when every year your country goes apeshit, isn't it?
That muslims are planning to take over the West.
It's happened in lebanon.
Pre-civil war (so 1943-1970s) Lebanon was Switzerland of the Middle-East. Stable, beautiful history, big banking industry, the easy way to reach the ME. Large population that speaks French so easy for Europeans to deal with, and the population was something like 80% christian, 15% Sunni, 3% Druze.
Fast forward to today, Christians represent a quarter of the population, Sunnis are even rarer, the rest are all Shia muslims, mostly emmigrated from Syria and Iran, with military backing from those countries. They were the cause of the 2006 conflict that forced Israel to destroy much of southern Lebanon and the southern neighbourhoods of Beirut.
No, Lebanon is not a western country. Yes, I'm probably going to be modded troll and I guess I deserve it.
But the example is still there. What happens when Europe is flooded with muslims who want sharia law? What about those muslims who don't want it?
Yes, but strangely enough, the world's best game ever (Sid Meier's Alpha Centauri) does not run, at all. There is no sign of life whatsoever from it, no running plus crash, just no cigar.
The sad thing is, now that Loki is dead, that game is unplayable. Not even Loki's version will work properly and Vista will probably not run it properly either.
But then again, so many games are running better and better in Wine. Even though the world's most popular game series (Sims & Sims2) aren't working because of DRM, they've done an excellent job getting the WinAPI nailed.
Oh, before I forget: I remember a long time ago seeing this page, divided with tables and such, showing how close each wine DLL was to perfection... Does anybody have the link to it? It seems unaccessible from the front page...