I had a horrible physics teacher in high school, (we had a new physics teacher every semester for a while) she taught out of an equally horrible book. She didn't have the answer key though so frequently anyone in the class who enjoyed physics would get marked wrong on certain questions that they had answered correctly. But my main concern is this: the book actually stated, as a fact, that since colder water heats up faster than hot water, cold water will boil quicker than hot water. This is empirically disprovable and totally illogical but it was taught as fact! I can understand hearing taught as fact in cooking school, but PHYSICS! WTF! the book also gave a similar statement about hot water freezing faster than cold water. So no, the American voter certainly doesn't know enough about science if a physics book for high school can get away with those kinds of assertions.
I'm not saying you do, though you may, but why do people believe there is any relation between the number of "bars" and whether your phone works or not? Seriously am I the only one that's noticed that having 5 bars doesn't mean that my call is any more likely to get through? Maybe it's just the fact that I'm frequently going in and out of service areas and that the cell network wasn't designed with mountains in mind but I have never seen a solid correlation between the number of "bars" and how good of a connection I have. My phone right now where I'm sitting has 5 bars but I just tried to send a text message and it failed. My calls frequently do not connect in certain areas so I know the reception is bad there, but my phone will say 3-5 bars in those areas, it just won't ring or connect a call.
Just as far as chronology goes there are many more primitive religions that Christianity pretty much every major religion other than Islam is older than Christianity
I like your urgency idea, my one question, does everyone in the world know when you eat dinner or when your children are napping? No? Is there a standard dinner and naptime for all households in a given time zone, because I wasn't given that memo. Do you know how to turn a ringer off? Yes? ok.... I have a 21 month old and was a stay-at-home dad for 18 months, ringer goes off just before nap time, I make sure that the answering machine isn't getting tons of messages, and the ringer goes off again just before dinner time.
If you tell someone you're not interested why do you then wait for their approval? This isn't someone you're trying to foster a relationship with, they're just trying to sell you stuff. Staying on the line just wastes everyone's time.
I'm replying here since it's stupid to reply to all of your posts that are essentially the same thing, as you didn't read my earlier reply already.
Yes, we need telemarketers in the same way we need cars or IT people... They are not an absolute necessity for survival, but the modern world has evolved with them for good reasons. As I said before, telemarketing has saved many businesses one that I have been personally connected to most if not all contract telemarketers do a mix of inbound and outbound calling. They provide a service both to businesses/charities and consumers/donors, failure to see this fact on your part does not make it untrue.
And to all you people who think it's a great idea to be a jerk to telemarketers and berate them, http://xkcd.com/438/ "it's easier to be an asshole to words than to people" go have your "fun" with a real person that you have to see their face, you have to see their hope that they are doing some good for their families while you're just playing games with them, you have to see their dejection when they realize you're just another asshole. The only way you can feel good about treating people like this is if you keep them on the other end of your phone and never realize that they are a person.
No one likes being a telemarketer, the turnover rate is the fastest for almost any career. But we need them, MDA needs them to get the majority of it's donations, political polls and survey companies need them to find out what people want, this gets more of what people want out in the open for them to have.
So if you're so down on my use of the word need and you think that's a valid reason to dismiss these people's lives, then think about who "needs" you outside of your family/friends. I know I could do just fine without you, me and 99.999....% of the world would be just dandy if you were dead, unemployed, being treated like dirt all day by strangers, or whatever else might befall you. But if I knew you were getting treated like crap and could try and show people a reason not to treat you that way I would. I don't claim to be perfect and I'm not some great humanitarian, but maybe just one time instead of being a complete jerk to someone over the phone, someone who read this will realize that the phone is connected to a PERSON.
Telemarketing is a necessity for many small companies without the resources to conduct national advertising campaigns. I know of at least one business locally that would have been shut down years ago without telemarketing, this business went on to make some incredible advances in waste treatment technology. Many charities use telemarketing as their main source for donations, and help multitudes of people because of it. There are other examples and other lines of logic that can be given, but I don't know if I should argue with someone who thinks having someone on welfare is better for society than them having a telemarketing job.
I was going to mod you up, but decided a reply will be more in order... TAKE SPECIAL NOTE OF THE WORDS "Young Earth" This is the illogical creation theory, there are in fact people who believe that God created the Big Bang, or that he created living things through the process of evolution those who believe this are not nearly the "crackpots" that the normal slashdotter believes that ALL creationists are, this thinking on the part of many intellectual elitists is equally fallacious as Young Earth creationism.
Also note, there are a TON of other theories and I don't claim to represent any of them well. I just think people need to be a little introspective when they say things assuming that ALL creationists believe the earth is 6000 years old.
Whether we like it or not, the world needs telemarketers, and they have families to support and cute little puppies too. I tried it just out of high school for about a month, I couldn't do it, but I met a lot of great people that sit on the phone and get yelled at all day for those two or three sales, just because that's what they need to do to support their families.
Telemarketers don't have anything I'm interested in buying (partly because my budget can't take it) but from experience I know that it's better to just hang up and let them get on to the next call than to sit there and yell at them or worse, give them false hope that they are about to get a sale.
Next time a telemarketer calls during a nice dinner with your family, remember, you don't have to answer the phone, so if you do, you're the one interrupting your dinner, secondly, they most likely have a family that they wish they could be with, but instead they have to call you.
I am wrong, but not at all for the reason you cite. I never said anything about the black hole hitting anything. I was referring to something I read without first thinking it out. That sometimes happens to me when I haven't slept in 3 days.
Only one problem... this isn't a bouncy ball thing, I highly doubt the black hole will fall anywhere near to the opposite side of the earth, as the black hole falls more and more of the mass of the earth will be behind it, acting on it gravitationally so the much more likely thing to happen is that the black hole will fall and begin decelerating falling just past the center of the earth due to it's momentum oscillating back and forth for a short time and then coming to rest at the center from where it can begin to devour the earth.
Uh, First of all this is the judicial branch we're talking about right now. The whole "is" thing involved the other two branches of government and had nothing to do with the current administration.
Aah, but here is the rub... The RIAA are trying to get the most beneficial mix of both worlds for their product (both worlds being buying things vs. buying licenses) When you go to copy a CD RIAA says it's not yours to copy since you only own a license, when you go to re-acquire the content you supposedly have a license to then suddenly in the record companies eyes you don't have a license, you had a physical thing that is now lost/destroyed and you have to buy another one.
All you need is one of those devices with the screen that projects the image onto the faces of whatever 1337 movie hacker is using it and invert the picture... I mean it's been almost 15 years since "Hackers" came out, surely the technology has downsized to PDA/smartphone size by now!
Seriously if they are too damaged to rip with cdparanoia then get some paint and body supplies some fine to extremely fine grit wet sanding paper, some polishing/buffing compound, and wet sand the cds out... first with like an 800 grit, then go to 1000 or 1200 and then use the polishing compound and finally wax it... then rip the CD's to at least two copies and store the originals and first copy safely.
This is the job that things like skipDR are trying to do, but they do it extremely poorly and in a very non-uniform way, Use common sense, don't set the CD down on a hard surface but either hold them in one hand or put it down on a folded up terry towel when sanding... Only sand wet, you have to make sure you get wet sanding paper and have a small container of water for dipping the paper in. Never, NEVER NEVER use a synthetic cloth to polish plastic. Get a nice clean cotton cloth (a brand new white T-shirt will work too) for polishing.
Why are people so incredibly naive and short sighted when it comes to this issue, did anyone think of what would happen if a sovereign nation could be sued by individuals for everything? Don't you realize that would create a nation that would run entirely for the benefit and profit of the best/most well funded lawyers in the land? And that any one person, with enough money, could hijack the entire governmental process?
I also don't think anyone quite understands by the language "save as it consents to be sued", the consent isn't on a case by case basis, there's no one at the US government that sits at a desk labeled "lawsuit consent" The consent is given specifically in the LAW, you know, that stuff that congressmen write and vote on... It's like on paper and stuff. The US government has consented itself to more types of lawsuits than any other sovereign and if there were a story that enumerated how much tax money goes to defending the US government against lawsuits everyone would be bitching about that.
If you think special interests are a problem now, just think through the ramifications of taking sovereign immunity away... I'll give you a hint, whoever has the most money will run the ENTIRE government, not just a good share of one branch like they do now.
Check your facts next time. First of all if a TOWN makes it illegal to do something, that's not exactly CONGRESS passing a law now is it? Second, check and see if your local police department has liability insurance (hint: they do) when you find out that they do have said insurance, contemplate the usefulness of said insurance if the police department could not be held accountable legally for anything they damage.
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I had a horrible physics teacher in high school, (we had a new physics teacher every semester for a while) she taught out of an equally horrible book. She didn't have the answer key though so frequently anyone in the class who enjoyed physics would get marked wrong on certain questions that they had answered correctly.
But my main concern is this: the book actually stated, as a fact, that since colder water heats up faster than hot water, cold water will boil quicker than hot water. This is empirically disprovable and totally illogical but it was taught as fact! I can understand hearing taught as fact in cooking school, but PHYSICS! WTF! the book also gave a similar statement about hot water freezing faster than cold water.
So no, the American voter certainly doesn't know enough about science if a physics book for high school can get away with those kinds of assertions.
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The first trailer I saw it reminded me of those barbie movies they market to 7-10 year old girls. "ooooh look it's the Jedi of Clones forest!!"
I'm not saying you do, though you may, but why do people believe there is any relation between the number of "bars" and whether your phone works or not? Seriously am I the only one that's noticed that having 5 bars doesn't mean that my call is any more likely to get through? Maybe it's just the fact that I'm frequently going in and out of service areas and that the cell network wasn't designed with mountains in mind but I have never seen a solid correlation between the number of "bars" and how good of a connection I have. My phone right now where I'm sitting has 5 bars but I just tried to send a text message and it failed. My calls frequently do not connect in certain areas so I know the reception is bad there, but my phone will say 3-5 bars in those areas, it just won't ring or connect a call.
Just as far as chronology goes there are many more primitive religions that Christianity pretty much every major religion other than Islam is older than Christianity
ok that was more than one question, sorry! I just want people to put some thought into how they treat others.
I like your urgency idea, my one question, does everyone in the world know when you eat dinner or when your children are napping? No? Is there a standard dinner and naptime for all households in a given time zone, because I wasn't given that memo. Do you know how to turn a ringer off? Yes? ok....
I have a 21 month old and was a stay-at-home dad for 18 months, ringer goes off just before nap time, I make sure that the answering machine isn't getting tons of messages, and the ringer goes off again just before dinner time.
If you tell someone you're not interested why do you then wait for their approval? This isn't someone you're trying to foster a relationship with, they're just trying to sell you stuff. Staying on the line just wastes everyone's time.
I'm replying here since it's stupid to reply to all of your posts that are essentially the same thing, as you didn't read my earlier reply already.
Yes, we need telemarketers in the same way we need cars or IT people... They are not an absolute necessity for survival, but the modern world has evolved with them for good reasons. As I said before, telemarketing has saved many businesses one that I have been personally connected to most if not all contract telemarketers do a mix of inbound and outbound calling. They provide a service both to businesses/charities and consumers/donors, failure to see this fact on your part does not make it untrue.
And to all you people who think it's a great idea to be a jerk to telemarketers and berate them, http://xkcd.com/438/ "it's easier to be an asshole to words than to people" go have your "fun" with a real person that you have to see their face, you have to see their hope that they are doing some good for their families while you're just playing games with them, you have to see their dejection when they realize you're just another asshole. The only way you can feel good about treating people like this is if you keep them on the other end of your phone and never realize that they are a person.
No one likes being a telemarketer, the turnover rate is the fastest for almost any career. But we need them, MDA needs them to get the majority of it's donations, political polls and survey companies need them to find out what people want, this gets more of what people want out in the open for them to have.
So if you're so down on my use of the word need and you think that's a valid reason to dismiss these people's lives, then think about who "needs" you outside of your family/friends. I know I could do just fine without you, me and 99.999....% of the world would be just dandy if you were dead, unemployed, being treated like dirt all day by strangers, or whatever else might befall you. But if I knew you were getting treated like crap and could try and show people a reason not to treat you that way I would. I don't claim to be perfect and I'm not some great humanitarian, but maybe just one time instead of being a complete jerk to someone over the phone, someone who read this will realize that the phone is connected to a PERSON.
Telemarketing is a necessity for many small companies without the resources to conduct national advertising campaigns. I know of at least one business locally that would have been shut down years ago without telemarketing, this business went on to make some incredible advances in waste treatment technology. Many charities use telemarketing as their main source for donations, and help multitudes of people because of it. There are other examples and other lines of logic that can be given, but I don't know if I should argue with someone who thinks having someone on welfare is better for society than them having a telemarketing job.
I was going to mod you up, but decided a reply will be more in order... TAKE SPECIAL NOTE OF THE WORDS "Young Earth" This is the illogical creation theory, there are in fact people who believe that God created the Big Bang, or that he created living things through the process of evolution those who believe this are not nearly the "crackpots" that the normal slashdotter believes that ALL creationists are, this thinking on the part of many intellectual elitists is equally fallacious as Young Earth creationism.
Also note, there are a TON of other theories and I don't claim to represent any of them well. I just think people need to be a little introspective when they say things assuming that ALL creationists believe the earth is 6000 years old.
...global...
don't you mean the "disc-wide" believers?
Whether we like it or not, the world needs telemarketers, and they have families to support and cute little puppies too. I tried it just out of high school for about a month, I couldn't do it, but I met a lot of great people that sit on the phone and get yelled at all day for those two or three sales, just because that's what they need to do to support their families.
Telemarketers don't have anything I'm interested in buying (partly because my budget can't take it) but from experience I know that it's better to just hang up and let them get on to the next call than to sit there and yell at them or worse, give them false hope that they are about to get a sale.
Next time a telemarketer calls during a nice dinner with your family, remember, you don't have to answer the phone, so if you do, you're the one interrupting your dinner, secondly, they most likely have a family that they wish they could be with, but instead they have to call you.
I am wrong, but not at all for the reason you cite. I never said anything about the black hole hitting anything. I was referring to something I read without first thinking it out. That sometimes happens to me when I haven't slept in 3 days.
Only one problem... this isn't a bouncy ball thing, I highly doubt the black hole will fall anywhere near to the opposite side of the earth, as the black hole falls more and more of the mass of the earth will be behind it, acting on it gravitationally so the much more likely thing to happen is that the black hole will fall and begin decelerating falling just past the center of the earth due to it's momentum oscillating back and forth for a short time and then coming to rest at the center from where it can begin to devour the earth.
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Uh, First of all this is the judicial branch we're talking about right now. The whole "is" thing involved the other two branches of government and had nothing to do with the current administration.
Aah, but here is the rub... The RIAA are trying to get the most beneficial mix of both worlds for their product (both worlds being buying things vs. buying licenses) When you go to copy a CD RIAA says it's not yours to copy since you only own a license, when you go to re-acquire the content you supposedly have a license to then suddenly in the record companies eyes you don't have a license, you had a physical thing that is now lost/destroyed and you have to buy another one.
All you need is one of those devices with the screen that projects the image onto the faces of whatever 1337 movie hacker is using it and invert the picture... I mean it's been almost 15 years since "Hackers" came out, surely the technology has downsized to PDA/smartphone size by now!
Seriously if they are too damaged to rip with cdparanoia then get some paint and body supplies some fine to extremely fine grit wet sanding paper, some polishing/buffing compound, and wet sand the cds out... first with like an 800 grit, then go to 1000 or 1200 and then use the polishing compound and finally wax it... then rip the CD's to at least two copies and store the originals and first copy safely.
This is the job that things like skipDR are trying to do, but they do it extremely poorly and in a very non-uniform way, Use common sense, don't set the CD down on a hard surface but either hold them in one hand or put it down on a folded up terry towel when sanding... Only sand wet, you have to make sure you get wet sanding paper and have a small container of water for dipping the paper in. Never, NEVER NEVER use a synthetic cloth to polish plastic. Get a nice clean cotton cloth (a brand new white T-shirt will work too) for polishing.
Why are people so incredibly naive and short sighted when it comes to this issue, did anyone think of what would happen if a sovereign nation could be sued by individuals for everything? Don't you realize that would create a nation that would run entirely for the benefit and profit of the best/most well funded lawyers in the land? And that any one person, with enough money, could hijack the entire governmental process?
I also don't think anyone quite understands by the language "save as it consents to be sued", the consent isn't on a case by case basis, there's no one at the US government that sits at a desk labeled "lawsuit consent" The consent is given specifically in the LAW, you know, that stuff that congressmen write and vote on... It's like on paper and stuff. The US government has consented itself to more types of lawsuits than any other sovereign and if there were a story that enumerated how much tax money goes to defending the US government against lawsuits everyone would be bitching about that.
If you think special interests are a problem now, just think through the ramifications of taking sovereign immunity away... I'll give you a hint, whoever has the most money will run the ENTIRE government, not just a good share of one branch like they do now.
Logical thinking about the government is not allowed here! I bet you RTFA too!
you make me sick!
Check your facts next time. First of all if a TOWN makes it illegal to do something, that's not exactly CONGRESS passing a law now is it? Second, check and see if your local police department has liability insurance (hint: they do) when you find out that they do have said insurance, contemplate the usefulness of said insurance if the police department could not be held accountable legally for anything they damage.
Don't try to teach someone with no grasp of rudimentary LOGIC, ANY KIND of science... It leads to severe exasperation on your part.
Cans? Seriously?! Hey screw that worldwide shortage of steel!!! I have a grocery bag full of cans right here!!!
Well here you go guys, proof positive that Joe Sixpack has heard of the thing.