Any of those technical trade schools (ITT, DeVry, etc) don't give you any experience in engineering, just how to use the tools to design things that engineers think up. One of the biggest problems that I have with ITT Tech grads (from my experience with working with them in the field of HVAC,P&FP,EE) is that they may be very proficient with AutoCAD, but without going to a real university, they just have the work ethic of a high school drop out. I think that the mental burden that a degree in engineering puts you through is a crucial component in why having an engineering degree is so useful because you develop great work ethic. I'm sure someone out there will flame me and say that they know someone who didn't do crap for work and graduated with a degree in engineering and now they're working at M$ so I respond with "good for them. they'll probably never make it far in that company."
I'm currently finishing up my undergraduate career with a double major in Computer Engineering & Computer Science. I'd love to pursue a graduate degree in ECE or EECS, however the cost of tuition is too high. I've had experience with two prior internships with companies who offered to pay ~$5,000 a year for tuition to offset the cost of grad school. However, after looking at the prices for in-state tuition for grad school at the nearby state school it is not enough. In-state tuition at the university for graduate students is ~$13,000 per year whereas out-of-state is ~$30,000 per year. If the Obama administration could offer more financial support for people who will be going to grad school part-time and working full-time then the U.S. would see an increase in engineers with an advanced degree.
P.S. I had a much longer and well-written response, but then my Windows 7 box BSOD'd me so I'll take a poke at M$ and call it a POS.
I refuse to believe that you have a B.S. let alone an M.S. in Computer Science if you think the following should be apart of any CS curriculum in high school: word processing, spreadsheets, intro to operating systems.
(The intro to OS is in there because I'm assuming that you mean how to use Windows XP or Windows 7 and not threading, file systems, page tables, virtual memory, etc.)
I did RTFA. Cisco is not denying it sold any equipment to China, and frankly, that wouldn't be illegal. Routers pass in and out of China everyday for any number of reasons to be used in industry and administrative applications.
THEY WOULD be complicit if Cisco engineers had gone into China and setup Cisco equipment in a big building that said "Golden Shield Area!" and provided white papers and advisory materials for the censorship and control of a nation. Frankly, I could see this. If Cisco equipment makes up the majority of the firewall, then it might be likely that they were complicit in the censorship. It would be advantageous for the US to see how our international companies cooperate with places like China in this.
Such information would normally be concealed in corporate records, and I think part of the suit is an effort to find some of those documents in terms of discovery.
I don't understand why it's so hard for people to understand that the U.S. was testing experimental aircraft (courtesy of Lockheed Skunk Works) at Groom Lake. They just used the Area 51 rumors to fuel the speculation so that if/when people saw the planes they were testing they would come up with some cock-eyed theory as to what it was they saw cause they don't recognize it.
..is perfect in every way with eight 2.93 GHz cores
You, good sir (or is it bad troll), are wrong. Your Mac Pro doesn't have two eight core Xeons, it has two four core Xeons with HyperThreading enabled. If you're going to troll get your facts right.
Is there any chance that this is some form of Blizzard copyright violation even though its a user made game? Aside from the obvious reusing of icons and models I wonder if Blizzard has anything like "any user created content is now ours" type of stuff in the fine print. Hopefully it's good enough that all the DOTA players go to it so i'll finally be able to see my tower defenses on the game's list.
I almost wanted to post anonymously, but i see that parent agrees. What the f&@$ is wrong with the people who decided to make "smile scanning" a daily requirement.
What are you talking about? I'm on Linux and I think Hulu is the best of them. The only thing I don't like about it is that fullscreen is choppy on my Intel VGA chipset.
I really hated Windows Vista and immediately formatted my laptop to Ubuntu when I got it. However, I installed Windows 7 just for kicks one weekend and was then forced to use it the whole week since I was away from my install discs the whole week and it wasn't nearly as bad as I thought it would be. I hate Microsoft just as much as the next guy, but the product is definitely a legitimate upgrade from Vista (performance-wise), but still not nearly as performance conscious as XP was. Damn, I miss XP. (but not it's lack of software for Windows XP x64 Edition which I still use on my other box.)
LOL, I completely agree. All the CS kiddies here think they are awesome with Java and Discrete Math. And all of us computer engineers with C++/C, Assembly, Java, Discrete Math, and much higher mathematics than integral calculus laugh at them when they $!#@% and complain.
Why would anyone pick up a CS degree to become an IT guy? It seems like complete overkill. I'm doing CS and Comp Engr and I know for a fact that that is exactly what I _don't_ want to do.
'Both users and suppliers benefit from this new business model,' concludes Microsoft, while conceding that 'the supplier can develop a revenue stream business that may actually have higher value than the one-time purchase model currently practiced.' But don't worry kids, that's only if you do more than 52 hours of homework a year!"
Haha, I can only hope that engineering students can qualify for this. 52 hours of homework is like 3-4 weeks for us.
The whole deal with having a different process for each tab means that when a tab would normally lock up, it would take out the whole browser, whereas with seperate processes, the memory allocated to the processes are seperated which allows only one tab to crash and not the whole browser itself. Threads on the other hand are all apart of the same process which means if one tab contained in a thread crashes, the whole browser crashes.
Granted I love threads, but in terms of that one pop-up crashing the 8 tabs I had open in firefox, good riddens.
However, every time I look at (for example) Dell's computers that are preloaded with Linux, the question pops into my head: 'Why should I buy a PC preloaded with Linux?' They are more expensive, and it's not hard just to reformat the PC with Linux..."
I might be misunderstanding what your saying, but the Ubuntu machines are currrently 50 bucks cheaper on Dell's site in comparison to its Windows companion.
"I hate paying the Microsoft Tax as much as anybody else, but if paying that 'tax' allows companies to reduce my price by bundling with my PC products that I will never use, why wouldn't I just buy a Windows-loaded PC and reformat?"
Because Microsoft is an evil empire and everything Unix based is free!
So in that case, Pollock is famous for his abstract art, Microsoft is famous for its awful software, and Hitler is famous for being a ruthless oppressive dictator. I think Pollock has the most reasonable excuse for being famous.
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As a Polish person I can safely say that we are the Mexicans of Europe in terms of cheap labor and engineering.
Any of those technical trade schools (ITT, DeVry, etc) don't give you any experience in engineering, just how to use the tools to design things that engineers think up. One of the biggest problems that I have with ITT Tech grads (from my experience with working with them in the field of HVAC,P&FP,EE) is that they may be very proficient with AutoCAD, but without going to a real university, they just have the work ethic of a high school drop out. I think that the mental burden that a degree in engineering puts you through is a crucial component in why having an engineering degree is so useful because you develop great work ethic. I'm sure someone out there will flame me and say that they know someone who didn't do crap for work and graduated with a degree in engineering and now they're working at M$ so I respond with "good for them. they'll probably never make it far in that company."
I'm currently finishing up my undergraduate career with a double major in Computer Engineering & Computer Science. I'd love to pursue a graduate degree in ECE or EECS, however the cost of tuition is too high. I've had experience with two prior internships with companies who offered to pay ~$5,000 a year for tuition to offset the cost of grad school. However, after looking at the prices for in-state tuition for grad school at the nearby state school it is not enough. In-state tuition at the university for graduate students is ~$13,000 per year whereas out-of-state is ~$30,000 per year. If the Obama administration could offer more financial support for people who will be going to grad school part-time and working full-time then the U.S. would see an increase in engineers with an advanced degree.
P.S. I had a much longer and well-written response, but then my Windows 7 box BSOD'd me so I'll take a poke at M$ and call it a POS.
I refuse to believe that you have a B.S. let alone an M.S. in Computer Science if you think the following should be apart of any CS curriculum in high school: word processing, spreadsheets, intro to operating systems.
(The intro to OS is in there because I'm assuming that you mean how to use Windows XP or Windows 7 and not threading, file systems, page tables, virtual memory, etc.)
I did RTFA. Cisco is not denying it sold any equipment to China, and frankly, that wouldn't be illegal. Routers pass in and out of China everyday for any number of reasons to be used in industry and administrative applications.
THEY WOULD be complicit if Cisco engineers had gone into China and setup Cisco equipment in a big building that said "Golden Shield Area!" and provided white papers and advisory materials for the censorship and control of a nation. Frankly, I could see this. If Cisco equipment makes up the majority of the firewall, then it might be likely that they were complicit in the censorship. It would be advantageous for the US to see how our international companies cooperate with places like China in this.
Such information would normally be concealed in corporate records, and I think part of the suit is an effort to find some of those documents in terms of discovery.
wrong article ftw?
I don't understand why it's so hard for people to understand that the U.S. was testing experimental aircraft (courtesy of Lockheed Skunk Works) at Groom Lake. They just used the Area 51 rumors to fuel the speculation so that if/when people saw the planes they were testing they would come up with some cock-eyed theory as to what it was they saw cause they don't recognize it.
a rouge satellite? really?
isn't that the plot to spiderman 2?
I almost pissed my pants reading those anagrams. That was a truly epic troll post.
..is perfect in every way with eight 2.93 GHz cores
You, good sir (or is it bad troll), are wrong. Your Mac Pro doesn't have two eight core Xeons, it has two four core Xeons with HyperThreading enabled. If you're going to troll get your facts right.
Is there any chance that this is some form of Blizzard copyright violation even though its a user made game? Aside from the obvious reusing of icons and models I wonder if Blizzard has anything like "any user created content is now ours" type of stuff in the fine print. Hopefully it's good enough that all the DOTA players go to it so i'll finally be able to see my tower defenses on the game's list.
I almost wanted to post anonymously, but i see that parent agrees. What the f&@$ is wrong with the people who decided to make "smile scanning" a daily requirement.
What are you talking about? I'm on Linux and I think Hulu is the best of them. The only thing I don't like about it is that fullscreen is choppy on my Intel VGA chipset.
I really hated Windows Vista and immediately formatted my laptop to Ubuntu when I got it. However, I installed Windows 7 just for kicks one weekend and was then forced to use it the whole week since I was away from my install discs the whole week and it wasn't nearly as bad as I thought it would be. I hate Microsoft just as much as the next guy, but the product is definitely a legitimate upgrade from Vista (performance-wise), but still not nearly as performance conscious as XP was. Damn, I miss XP. (but not it's lack of software for Windows XP x64 Edition which I still use on my other box.)
University of Arizona only requires CS majors to take derivative and integral calculus and only C and Java.
LOL, I completely agree. All the CS kiddies here think they are awesome with Java and Discrete Math. And all of us computer engineers with C++/C, Assembly, Java, Discrete Math, and much higher mathematics than integral calculus laugh at them when they $!#@% and complain.
Why would anyone pick up a CS degree to become an IT guy? It seems like complete overkill. I'm doing CS and Comp Engr and I know for a fact that that is exactly what I _don't_ want to do.
'Both users and suppliers benefit from this new business model,' concludes Microsoft, while conceding that 'the supplier can develop a revenue stream business that may actually have higher value than the one-time purchase model currently practiced.' But don't worry kids, that's only if you do more than 52 hours of homework a year!"
Haha, I can only hope that engineering students can qualify for this. 52 hours of homework is like 3-4 weeks for us.
one of the more confusing titles i've seen on /.
The whole deal with having a different process for each tab means that when a tab would normally lock up, it would take out the whole browser, whereas with seperate processes, the memory allocated to the processes are seperated which allows only one tab to crash and not the whole browser itself. Threads on the other hand are all apart of the same process which means if one tab contained in a thread crashes, the whole browser crashes. Granted I love threads, but in terms of that one pop-up crashing the 8 tabs I had open in firefox, good riddens.
It cant form complex machines, guns and explosives have chemicals, moving parts, it doesn't work that way, but it can form solid metal shapes.
A burning brown bag filled with fecal matter.
However, every time I look at (for example) Dell's computers that are preloaded with Linux, the question pops into my head: 'Why should I buy a PC preloaded with Linux?' They are more expensive, and it's not hard just to reformat the PC with Linux..."
I might be misunderstanding what your saying, but the Ubuntu machines are currrently 50 bucks cheaper on Dell's site in comparison to its Windows companion.
"I hate paying the Microsoft Tax as much as anybody else, but if paying that 'tax' allows companies to reduce my price by bundling with my PC products that I will never use, why wouldn't I just buy a Windows-loaded PC and reformat?"
Because Microsoft is an evil empire and everything Unix based is free!
So in that case, Pollock is famous for his abstract art, Microsoft is famous for its awful software, and Hitler is famous for being a ruthless oppressive dictator. I think Pollock has the most reasonable excuse for being famous.
Well, he is one of the most famous artists in history....