Right on. And on top of that, they can get over their 'technology BAD' and learn how to do the things. Exactly how hard is it to write down a password and lock it away? Seriously, it's like the adults in this are trying to claim the ignorance they want to foster in their children. I'm sure that'll work out just SUPER.
You have this the wrong way around: this approach towards 'clean' TV was created by easily offended people who blackmailed Hollywood in the '30s into censoring 'immoral' content via boycott. To prevent a loss of audience, Hollywood instituted the Hays Code which was the movie industry's self-run morality police that cut whatever they thought was offensive out of movies and eventually TV to conform to self-appointed Christian watchdogs to conform with their version of reality.
The idea that TV started 'clean' and went 'dirty' is blatantly false. If anything, the idea of 'clean' TV is one imposed on the entertainment industry to avoid movies and TVs that sparked original thought. Before 1934, visual media had dozens of incidences of nudity and other 'immoral' things like violence and other topics. I could bring up 'Tarzan and His Mate' and the original 'Scarface' as examples quite easily.
So don't act like media suddenly started dealing with sexuality and violence in the '70s (which is a cunning way of pinning this all on the Sexual Revolution and the Baby Boomers to contrast with the Republican ideal of the 1950s). The first movies were of nudes posing and moving as an experiment to document the human form, much like painting. This 'dirtiness' was created by watchdogs who thought they knew what was good for us that conned everybody into equating human sexuality as sin, hence 'dirt.' If anything, this 'cleanliness' is an aberration created by some complete repressive jerks whose cause still can't get over their humanity.
The most interesting bit: if a kid can figure out a V-chip, then why are we holding anything back from them? It seems they're more mature than their parents and much more capable of rational thought than their parents are giving them credit for.
But, let it far from me to suggest that the parents are censoring their kids to prevent them from answering questions instead of the kid's incapability of grasping the answer....
Well said. Children are being used as the new lowest common denominator today and it's insulting to everybody that we are basing our entire culture around some mythical ideal of childhood that never really occurs. Don't children one day become adults?
There are two real issues being covered up by this cultural regression to a faux childhood: The American childish public attitudes towards sex and how this relates to parenthood. How can you really teach a child anything about life when you can't even get past the 'icky' bias of sexuality and what it means?
A good and valid point, but either way in your example the theater is doomed. If they kick someone out, they get hell. If the person's ethnicity is claimed as the issue, then the theater is doomed. Anyway you look at the enforcement of this in any regard, the theater is doomed. Using this logic, wouldn't the theater be better off merely letting the issue go and letting the companies themselves deal with it via lawsuits to the distributors of the films?
No offense, but your example seems to underline the absurdity of charging anybody with this 'crime.' In all case, it seems easier for all people just to fall back on their lawyers at the distribution point instead of trying to use the theater as copyright police when they're not even experienced in doing so.
It's behavior like this that is pushing people right into home theaters. Sure, it's quite an investment. But you don't have to put up with all these myriad rules and regulations that are aimed at a very few at the expense of the many. Add to this the prices of tickets and concessions and interruptions during a film, and you got a surefire recipe for waiting and picking up a DVD that more than likely has an unrated cut.
So why go to the theaters at all? At this point, On Demand cable has more perks than theaters do.
Same here. All this is going to do is drive games like Manhunt 2 for online purchase and even then some group is going to whine and complain when one of their precious unique-as-a-snowflake Ritalin addicts happens to see five seconds of it.
This is all so very pointless. Plus, I'm guessing Microsoft is going to port it out to the 360. Why not? This would finally establish them as the Adult Game System for the Next Generation.
Remember the '70s Cap America movies?
This is all the reasons why Marvel should tread lightly. Twenty-five years later, they started making good films again.
Indeed. Retail is no place to make a stand like this, no matter how sensible it may seem. If you're counting on people making a small wage in a high stress checkout line to enforce those rules, it is not going to happen.
...no degree is completely useless. The reason I dropped out of computer science was because it was 2003 and after working at a major cable ISP, I realized that I was in it more for money and without the money--and seeing WorldCom refugees have their lives collapse because they were making a fraction of the six figures they usually got--it was nearly pointless for me. Hence, while some 'useless' degrees may seem pointless to you, the idea of getting a solid degree is indeed a slippery slope.
Oh, and you are right about experience. I'm working my way through IT work and did so while majoring in English Literature and Telecommunications. It is possible to do both, very well.
Agreed. The Hollywood trend is to secure money by rehashing proven hits of the past. This company could do something unique with the Terminator movies. But then again, they could also do something completely unique and possibly create a new franchise as well.
Agreed. Granted, I work IT for libraries and I don't spend much time on my work, but I can understand. When all and said and done in life, I don't think any of us would really want our job plugging in cables and playing with software and hardware to constitute most of our life. Life is far, far too short for that kind of foolishness.
Also, I'm in IT right now but only until I get my Masters in English and go for my doctorate. I figure if I can't edit or teach, I can do more than that and IT is always a good, fun backup. I'll be damned if I'll pull 12-14 days in it, however. Life is too short.
But then again, the crux of your argument is that life would be simpler, but not that enlightening. While I did grow up in a fairly rural town, I wouldn't care to do it again. Having a close knit group of people you can rely upon is good, but it's not everything. It leads to a stagnation of thought and personal growth as you become homogenized to your group. And a lot of the time, most people see that as a negative instead of a positive. Yes, you're in a group, but you're alone in that group.
This shows that one of the biggest problems that America faces is being too insular. Variety is indeed the spice of life, and simply living with people that you adapt your values to in exchange for feeling a sense of belonging is a false one. Plus, it could be seen that a rejection of something that takes skill in exchange for being purposely ignorant is not a virtue, but a sign of fear.
I'll second this. Plus nobody on either side has done much to make either format attractive to consumers outside of picture quality. If one of them started putting out TV shows by the season/more episodes per disc, then they might have better luck.
Plus rumor has it that most of these releases don't even have the extras that the standard DVDs do. Real nice way to attract more people to a format: charge one and a half times more for something that has half the content. Right.
Sony's real problem for the PS3 is that they keep up this idea of having a video game console be more than that. Yeah, having a gaming machine play movies is a big plus...back in 2002 when the PS2 was coming out and could do that because Sony was moving over to DVD media. But for some reason, they thought they needed that for the PS3 and that's where they failed. If they had just competed with Microsoft on their own terms--a real monster of a machine that didn't need a next-gen media drive--then they would be better off.
For some reason Sony thinks their fun toy can be more out of some perceived failing and have now taken all the fun out of their toy. $600 is not the definition of a good time...well, not a legal good time.
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No, in my experience people who don't stand up for themselves or are easily bullied usually make it high up into the company or are jammed into positions. And given how everybody treats people like that at various corporations, it's definitely not for the best. The Peter Principle requires only a person to be loyal to make it far.
Valenti's death almost makes me wish there was a heaven, so when he gets there Kurt Vonnegut could punch him in the stomach. Repeatedly. And then make him read Cat's Cradle.
In essence it's a Alkali Metal, which means any water will cause one heck of an explosion.
Thank you, Mr. Braunlich of Eighth Grade Physical Science, for demonstrating that in class to great effect!
Agreed. I'm in the same boat as you: I've been in IT ever since I landed a job at an ISP in 2003 and have been building up my work experience ever since, either through work study jobs or actual positions that helped me get a load of facetime with inexperienced people directly or over the phone. So far, I haven't done too badly, but it's hard to see how anything is going to get accomplished when you don't have entry-level jobs.
This country seems to be selling itself short. It's going to bite us when we don't have any specialized people left, or any positions for people to really excel at and learn the trade.
Sweet! I might do this in a few months because I just invested in an 360.
Well, I got it for cheap, as a certain computer company was selling the Premium with Gears of War for about $399 shipped. After tax, it's kinda like buying a Core with a HD and getting a free game to boot. Not a bad deal.
Plus everybody forgets that the majority of all TV programming isn't anywhere close to HD. If you want to watch 'Heroes,' you can see a clear picture. You want something like 'I Love Lucy,' then you're going to watch a blocky mess. My parents had a cheap HDTV and all they got for most of the shows is just blocky garbage due to most programming not having that advantage.
You don't see many people dealing with that problem.
GTA is more realistic? How many people do you know that are made out of polygons and are able to escape shooting people by ducking into a garage in full view of the police and then walking out scot-free for a mere $100 which buys a new coat of paint and an engine? Come on now.
If anything, the study shows that most kids are smart enough to realize this is all nonsense and that the crazy ones will gravitate towards anything and take it too seriously. Banning things will only serve as a band-aid that doesn't solve the real problem. If there is a real problem outside of parents not keeping an eye on the development of their children.
I dug the whole '80s style of both Vice City games as well, but San Andreas I liked just as much. If anything, the whole 'thug life' thing only lasted for the first fifth of the game, leaving you to see other locations before coming back. There's something for everybody in that game, and the control scheme is just about perfect.
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Right on. And on top of that, they can get over their 'technology BAD' and learn how to do the things. Exactly how hard is it to write down a password and lock it away? Seriously, it's like the adults in this are trying to claim the ignorance they want to foster in their children. I'm sure that'll work out just SUPER.
You have this the wrong way around: this approach towards 'clean' TV was created by easily offended people who blackmailed Hollywood in the '30s into censoring 'immoral' content via boycott. To prevent a loss of audience, Hollywood instituted the Hays Code which was the movie industry's self-run morality police that cut whatever they thought was offensive out of movies and eventually TV to conform to self-appointed Christian watchdogs to conform with their version of reality. The idea that TV started 'clean' and went 'dirty' is blatantly false. If anything, the idea of 'clean' TV is one imposed on the entertainment industry to avoid movies and TVs that sparked original thought. Before 1934, visual media had dozens of incidences of nudity and other 'immoral' things like violence and other topics. I could bring up 'Tarzan and His Mate' and the original 'Scarface' as examples quite easily. So don't act like media suddenly started dealing with sexuality and violence in the '70s (which is a cunning way of pinning this all on the Sexual Revolution and the Baby Boomers to contrast with the Republican ideal of the 1950s). The first movies were of nudes posing and moving as an experiment to document the human form, much like painting. This 'dirtiness' was created by watchdogs who thought they knew what was good for us that conned everybody into equating human sexuality as sin, hence 'dirt.' If anything, this 'cleanliness' is an aberration created by some complete repressive jerks whose cause still can't get over their humanity.
The most interesting bit: if a kid can figure out a V-chip, then why are we holding anything back from them? It seems they're more mature than their parents and much more capable of rational thought than their parents are giving them credit for. But, let it far from me to suggest that the parents are censoring their kids to prevent them from answering questions instead of the kid's incapability of grasping the answer....
Well said. Children are being used as the new lowest common denominator today and it's insulting to everybody that we are basing our entire culture around some mythical ideal of childhood that never really occurs. Don't children one day become adults? There are two real issues being covered up by this cultural regression to a faux childhood: The American childish public attitudes towards sex and how this relates to parenthood. How can you really teach a child anything about life when you can't even get past the 'icky' bias of sexuality and what it means?
A good and valid point, but either way in your example the theater is doomed. If they kick someone out, they get hell. If the person's ethnicity is claimed as the issue, then the theater is doomed. Anyway you look at the enforcement of this in any regard, the theater is doomed. Using this logic, wouldn't the theater be better off merely letting the issue go and letting the companies themselves deal with it via lawsuits to the distributors of the films? No offense, but your example seems to underline the absurdity of charging anybody with this 'crime.' In all case, it seems easier for all people just to fall back on their lawyers at the distribution point instead of trying to use the theater as copyright police when they're not even experienced in doing so.
It's behavior like this that is pushing people right into home theaters. Sure, it's quite an investment. But you don't have to put up with all these myriad rules and regulations that are aimed at a very few at the expense of the many. Add to this the prices of tickets and concessions and interruptions during a film, and you got a surefire recipe for waiting and picking up a DVD that more than likely has an unrated cut. So why go to the theaters at all? At this point, On Demand cable has more perks than theaters do.
Same here. All this is going to do is drive games like Manhunt 2 for online purchase and even then some group is going to whine and complain when one of their precious unique-as-a-snowflake Ritalin addicts happens to see five seconds of it. This is all so very pointless. Plus, I'm guessing Microsoft is going to port it out to the 360. Why not? This would finally establish them as the Adult Game System for the Next Generation.
Remember the '70s Cap America movies? This is all the reasons why Marvel should tread lightly. Twenty-five years later, they started making good films again.
Indeed. Retail is no place to make a stand like this, no matter how sensible it may seem. If you're counting on people making a small wage in a high stress checkout line to enforce those rules, it is not going to happen.
...no degree is completely useless. The reason I dropped out of computer science was because it was 2003 and after working at a major cable ISP, I realized that I was in it more for money and without the money--and seeing WorldCom refugees have their lives collapse because they were making a fraction of the six figures they usually got--it was nearly pointless for me. Hence, while some 'useless' degrees may seem pointless to you, the idea of getting a solid degree is indeed a slippery slope. Oh, and you are right about experience. I'm working my way through IT work and did so while majoring in English Literature and Telecommunications. It is possible to do both, very well.
Agreed. The Hollywood trend is to secure money by rehashing proven hits of the past. This company could do something unique with the Terminator movies. But then again, they could also do something completely unique and possibly create a new franchise as well.
Agreed. Granted, I work IT for libraries and I don't spend much time on my work, but I can understand. When all and said and done in life, I don't think any of us would really want our job plugging in cables and playing with software and hardware to constitute most of our life. Life is far, far too short for that kind of foolishness. Also, I'm in IT right now but only until I get my Masters in English and go for my doctorate. I figure if I can't edit or teach, I can do more than that and IT is always a good, fun backup. I'll be damned if I'll pull 12-14 days in it, however. Life is too short.
But then again, the crux of your argument is that life would be simpler, but not that enlightening. While I did grow up in a fairly rural town, I wouldn't care to do it again. Having a close knit group of people you can rely upon is good, but it's not everything. It leads to a stagnation of thought and personal growth as you become homogenized to your group. And a lot of the time, most people see that as a negative instead of a positive. Yes, you're in a group, but you're alone in that group.
This shows that one of the biggest problems that America faces is being too insular. Variety is indeed the spice of life, and simply living with people that you adapt your values to in exchange for feeling a sense of belonging is a false one. Plus, it could be seen that a rejection of something that takes skill in exchange for being purposely ignorant is not a virtue, but a sign of fear.
I'll second this. Plus nobody on either side has done much to make either format attractive to consumers outside of picture quality. If one of them started putting out TV shows by the season/more episodes per disc, then they might have better luck. Plus rumor has it that most of these releases don't even have the extras that the standard DVDs do. Real nice way to attract more people to a format: charge one and a half times more for something that has half the content. Right.
Sony's real problem for the PS3 is that they keep up this idea of having a video game console be more than that. Yeah, having a gaming machine play movies is a big plus...back in 2002 when the PS2 was coming out and could do that because Sony was moving over to DVD media. But for some reason, they thought they needed that for the PS3 and that's where they failed. If they had just competed with Microsoft on their own terms--a real monster of a machine that didn't need a next-gen media drive--then they would be better off. For some reason Sony thinks their fun toy can be more out of some perceived failing and have now taken all the fun out of their toy. $600 is not the definition of a good time...well, not a legal good time.
No, in my experience people who don't stand up for themselves or are easily bullied usually make it high up into the company or are jammed into positions. And given how everybody treats people like that at various corporations, it's definitely not for the best. The Peter Principle requires only a person to be loyal to make it far.
Valenti's death almost makes me wish there was a heaven, so when he gets there Kurt Vonnegut could punch him in the stomach. Repeatedly. And then make him read Cat's Cradle.
In essence it's a Alkali Metal, which means any water will cause one heck of an explosion. Thank you, Mr. Braunlich of Eighth Grade Physical Science, for demonstrating that in class to great effect!
Agreed. I'm in the same boat as you: I've been in IT ever since I landed a job at an ISP in 2003 and have been building up my work experience ever since, either through work study jobs or actual positions that helped me get a load of facetime with inexperienced people directly or over the phone. So far, I haven't done too badly, but it's hard to see how anything is going to get accomplished when you don't have entry-level jobs. This country seems to be selling itself short. It's going to bite us when we don't have any specialized people left, or any positions for people to really excel at and learn the trade.
Sweet! I might do this in a few months because I just invested in an 360. Well, I got it for cheap, as a certain computer company was selling the Premium with Gears of War for about $399 shipped. After tax, it's kinda like buying a Core with a HD and getting a free game to boot. Not a bad deal.
Plus everybody forgets that the majority of all TV programming isn't anywhere close to HD. If you want to watch 'Heroes,' you can see a clear picture. You want something like 'I Love Lucy,' then you're going to watch a blocky mess. My parents had a cheap HDTV and all they got for most of the shows is just blocky garbage due to most programming not having that advantage. You don't see many people dealing with that problem.
Can we stop this 'pussification' by saving our bodily fluids as well?
GTA is more realistic? How many people do you know that are made out of polygons and are able to escape shooting people by ducking into a garage in full view of the police and then walking out scot-free for a mere $100 which buys a new coat of paint and an engine? Come on now. If anything, the study shows that most kids are smart enough to realize this is all nonsense and that the crazy ones will gravitate towards anything and take it too seriously. Banning things will only serve as a band-aid that doesn't solve the real problem. If there is a real problem outside of parents not keeping an eye on the development of their children.
I dug the whole '80s style of both Vice City games as well, but San Andreas I liked just as much. If anything, the whole 'thug life' thing only lasted for the first fifth of the game, leaving you to see other locations before coming back. There's something for everybody in that game, and the control scheme is just about perfect.