You're missing the point. In science, if something isn't demonstrably false, it's not "false" -- it's "undetermined." We might have all sorts of reasons to think it's unlikely (which, in the case of god, I could certainly come up with a bunch), but that's not the same thing. Why should scientists (who are human like everyone else) have to be completely devoid of belief in things that aren't testable, so long as it doesn't interfere with their proper judgment of things that *are* testable? And, to be clear, I'm not talking about believing in myths "simply because the myth is framed" in any particular way. I'm talking about people of science turning to faith to answer the question of "why" (which science specifically does not address). They are not contradictory unless it encroaches on actual science.
The existence of a teapot in orbit around Mars is testable. If we knew how to define "fairy" I'm sure the existence of those would be testable as well (this being the problem with most binary assertions about whether or not "god" exists). How the presents arrive under the Christmas Tree and how money shows up under your pillow in place of a tooth are also observable, thereby making a belief in non-observable explanations unnecessary.
While I happen to think that the universe would be magnificently more elegant *without* a creator (which is why I choose to live my life without the belief in one), science isn't what says there isn't one. And, if I may say so, calling people "simpletons" is precisely why this argument so often degenerates before anything productive can be achieved. There are certainly people who believe in things that are at odds with science, and those people I would try to educate about what science really is and what it really does (and what it isn't and doesn't). Was the earth created 6000 years ago? Science tells us it was not, and that's the final word unless you pull the "God created the universe 6000 years ago complete with all of the evidence we find today" card, which, again, is not testable. Similarly, science gives us overwhelming evidence for the occurrence of a Big Bang something like 14 billion years ago, but it tells us nothing about "why." There will always be a "What happened just before that?" question to answer, and nothing in science today is capable of telling us why the universe exists.
Of course, I find the influence of large religious institutions to be damaging, but more so because they are masterful at the manipulation of people, and not so much because they find comfort in believing that there is more meaning to existence than has been observed. That's not harmful, provided that it doesn't contradict what *has* been observed.
It always amazes me when people who claim to understand science think that the absence of evidence means evidence of absence. For full disclosure, I am an engineer and I personally do not believe in god, but since there exists no evidence to prove or disprove the existence of an intelligent creator, it's really not a "contradictory belief" for a scientist to have faith in a creator.
What *IS* contradictory is when a so-called scientist claims that divine intervention is the reason behind something for which we actually have evidence and experimental results to the contrary.
Many people get this wrong: science is not about asking "why", it's about asking "what" (as in, "what happens" and "can I reasonably expect the same thing to happen again, given the same conditions and stimuli?" and NOT "why does this happen?"). "Why" is a question for philosophers, not scientists. If a scientist tells you that he or she can tell you "why" something happens, they're no longer engaging in science.
How many people who download an episode of Glee from TPB think it was produced by TPB? Probably not many. Now turn it around: how many people who watch that episode of Glee will think JoCo's cover is an original creation of the Glee team? I'm not supporting or defending TPB here, just pointing out that in this case, Jonathan Coulton doesn't get any free publicity out of the appropriation of his work, whereas the creators of Glee get a ton of it from TPB, for better or worse.
You might have tried reading TFA before accusing the submitter (who, by the way, has a PhD in a science field and probably knows a thing or two about what makes a credible research study) of not providing any evidence to support his position. There are actually quite a few references provided, if you had bothered to check before accusing a well-respected scientist of fabricating a work of pure fiction.
Sounds a lot like your daughter simply had an allergic reaction to something in the vaccine. Hell, I get asked if I'm allergic to eggs every time I get a flu shot and before I've ever had IV anesthesia administered. It doesn't have to be a sinister cover-up about "vaccine-related illness" in order for some people -- particularly infants and children -- to have (temporary!) adverse reactions. Whether administering potential allergens to infants is worth the risk of adverse reaction or not, I leave as an exercise to the reader. However, if you'd take the time to read what Phil Plait (the OP) has to say about this issue, you'd realize that the data is not, in fact, "a very very poor sampling" with respect to the assertion that vaccines cause serious neurological conditions like autism.
It sure does. In fact, it holds your place in everything you watch, so you can start as many movies as you want and go back to where you left off in each one later. Unlike most DVD players, which forget everything the moment the tray opens.
I've been saying this for years. Science fiction is a fantastic platform for social commentary precisely because it can convey complex ideas and thought-provoking situations without being overtly political or directly controversial.
Consider how far ahead of its time Star Trek was in terms of exploring a future in which race was irrelevant during the height of the civil rights movement, as well as all of the possible futures that were envisioned (across all of the series) to explore what might happen if humanity continues down a certain path that many people of the time would identify with. Many of those made some pretty grim predictions. Consider also Isaac Asimov's portrayal of robots in the 1950s... many would recognize some social commentary on race in those stories. Twilight Zone, anyone? Sure, some of those episodes were less thought-provoking than others, but quite a few had a poignant "whoa" moment at the end that is both easy to relate to some aspect of society and also hard to forget. The fact that they're all sci-fi stories just means that the writers have a bit more freedom to set the characters up in scenarios that would otherwise be difficult to believe. It's a built-in suspension of disbelief because, after all, "it's just sci-fi, it's not supposed to be real." Conveniently, it still makes you think.
Sci-fi has been able to get people to think about these things for a long time without slapping them in the face with a righteous sermon, and for that I agree it should continue to be much more widely adopted as a platform for "what if..."
The truth is that all men having power ought to be mistrusted. James Madison
Quite an ironic sig to follow your post! Granted, my own sig is somewhat morally lacking (so there's no value judgment here), and I also appreciate the difference between healthy skepticism and vehement opposition, but I found it amusing nonetheless.
Do you run a sole proprietorship? I do. My business expenses are legally deducted from my taxable income by filing a Schedule C. If I were ever to claim (from the perspective of the IRS) that I "made $1M", it would mean that my actual revenue was significantly greater than that. I don't pay income taxes on the money spent to run the business, because once it goes back into the business, it's not "income" anymore. Obviously there are rules and regulations for what's legitimately deductible, but the point stands.
GP was correct. The first amendment, which gives us the right to free speech in the USofA, says (emphasis mine):
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."
The Constitution gives Congress the power to write certain laws and not others. It is not law in and of itself.
Steve: I've done far worse than bankrupt you, Gates. I've humiliated you. And I wish to go on humiliating you. I shall leave you as you [kinda wish you could have] left me... marooned for all eternity in the mire of public opinion. Buried alive... buried alive
Anyone who has so much as glanced at a Terminal chart knows this information. Hell, anyone who's played MS Flight Simulator knows this information. A "scanner" in this context most likely means a handheld transceiver, which is perfectly legal to own for monitoring any public transmission (and yes, ATC transmissions are public and unencrypted). Transmitting on an ATC frequency may land you in jail real quick, but then again that's not what we're talking about. There's nothing here that should be considered "too much information" and the fact that you seem to think this behavior is dangerous is troubling in my opinion.
I also consider myself an "aviation geek" -- I've taken a few lessons myself. I'm also a ham radio operator. There is nothing suspicious or illegal about these hobbies or interests. Stop adding to the mass paranoia.
I remember a similar bridge-building contest in 6th or 7th grade, except the winner wasn't necessarily the one who built the strongest bridge, but rather the one who built the bridge with the best strength-to-weight ratio, thereby eliminating most of the kids who adopted the "more material is always better" design mentality. Now, as an engineer, I look back with a whole new level of appreciation for challenges like those.
This was already discussed in the comments of the blog post in TFA, and the author replied with this:
@Eric they haven’t pulled it yet, which is very strange. They rang us yesterday and said they would, and that there was no recourse for us, but once they did they’d send us a formal email. Perhaps they are getting cold feet? Now I wish they hadn’t called, because this seems like the most amazing PR stunt everto bad it’s not:(
You really think the release of this information is the first time the ISPs have heard of web-based speed test tools? Unfortunately I have no citation to provide, but I would not be surprised in the slightest if I were offered evidence that they've been optimizing for these tests for years.
Am I the only one who has run one of those tests and been a little bit confused that the result is very nearly what's advertised by my ISP, but my actual network performance never seems to agree with the test?
TFA cites the exclusive use of keyboards as a flaw... but anyone who has to constantly switch between the keyboard and the mouse knows that it's an annoyingly constant interruption and a pain in the ass. It brings to mind something a former employer of mine once said: "I never really understood the invention of the mouse. Why on Earth would anyone want to take a programmer's hands away from the keyboard?"
The piece in the video is called Lux Aurumque, not Sleep. I've actually performed a wind ensemble version of this piece -- it's extremely difficult due to the very delicate and exposed parts, but Whitacre's music is just gorgeous.
One estimate puts the number of possible sentences at 10^570
What a completely useless metric. It makes sense to examine the context and meaning of speech in order to accurately transcribe words, but the number of possible sentences doesn't seem to accurately describe the problem here...
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You're missing the point. In science, if something isn't demonstrably false, it's not "false" -- it's "undetermined." We might have all sorts of reasons to think it's unlikely (which, in the case of god, I could certainly come up with a bunch), but that's not the same thing. Why should scientists (who are human like everyone else) have to be completely devoid of belief in things that aren't testable, so long as it doesn't interfere with their proper judgment of things that *are* testable? And, to be clear, I'm not talking about believing in myths "simply because the myth is framed" in any particular way. I'm talking about people of science turning to faith to answer the question of "why" (which science specifically does not address). They are not contradictory unless it encroaches on actual science.
The existence of a teapot in orbit around Mars is testable. If we knew how to define "fairy" I'm sure the existence of those would be testable as well (this being the problem with most binary assertions about whether or not "god" exists). How the presents arrive under the Christmas Tree and how money shows up under your pillow in place of a tooth are also observable, thereby making a belief in non-observable explanations unnecessary.
While I happen to think that the universe would be magnificently more elegant *without* a creator (which is why I choose to live my life without the belief in one), science isn't what says there isn't one. And, if I may say so, calling people "simpletons" is precisely why this argument so often degenerates before anything productive can be achieved. There are certainly people who believe in things that are at odds with science, and those people I would try to educate about what science really is and what it really does (and what it isn't and doesn't). Was the earth created 6000 years ago? Science tells us it was not, and that's the final word unless you pull the "God created the universe 6000 years ago complete with all of the evidence we find today" card, which, again, is not testable. Similarly, science gives us overwhelming evidence for the occurrence of a Big Bang something like 14 billion years ago, but it tells us nothing about "why." There will always be a "What happened just before that?" question to answer, and nothing in science today is capable of telling us why the universe exists.
Of course, I find the influence of large religious institutions to be damaging, but more so because they are masterful at the manipulation of people, and not so much because they find comfort in believing that there is more meaning to existence than has been observed. That's not harmful, provided that it doesn't contradict what *has* been observed.
It always amazes me when people who claim to understand science think that the absence of evidence means evidence of absence. For full disclosure, I am an engineer and I personally do not believe in god, but since there exists no evidence to prove or disprove the existence of an intelligent creator, it's really not a "contradictory belief" for a scientist to have faith in a creator.
What *IS* contradictory is when a so-called scientist claims that divine intervention is the reason behind something for which we actually have evidence and experimental results to the contrary.
Many people get this wrong: science is not about asking "why", it's about asking "what" (as in, "what happens" and "can I reasonably expect the same thing to happen again, given the same conditions and stimuli?" and NOT "why does this happen?"). "Why" is a question for philosophers, not scientists. If a scientist tells you that he or she can tell you "why" something happens, they're no longer engaging in science.
I'm curious also: which GW2 update is the killer? I've been playing for a couple of months and haven't encountered anything too egregious.
How many people who download an episode of Glee from TPB think it was produced by TPB? Probably not many. Now turn it around: how many people who watch that episode of Glee will think JoCo's cover is an original creation of the Glee team? I'm not supporting or defending TPB here, just pointing out that in this case, Jonathan Coulton doesn't get any free publicity out of the appropriation of his work, whereas the creators of Glee get a ton of it from TPB, for better or worse.
You might have tried reading TFA before accusing the submitter (who, by the way, has a PhD in a science field and probably knows a thing or two about what makes a credible research study) of not providing any evidence to support his position. There are actually quite a few references provided, if you had bothered to check before accusing a well-respected scientist of fabricating a work of pure fiction.
Sounds a lot like your daughter simply had an allergic reaction to something in the vaccine. Hell, I get asked if I'm allergic to eggs every time I get a flu shot and before I've ever had IV anesthesia administered. It doesn't have to be a sinister cover-up about "vaccine-related illness" in order for some people -- particularly infants and children -- to have (temporary!) adverse reactions. Whether administering potential allergens to infants is worth the risk of adverse reaction or not, I leave as an exercise to the reader. However, if you'd take the time to read what Phil Plait (the OP) has to say about this issue, you'd realize that the data is not, in fact, "a very very poor sampling" with respect to the assertion that vaccines cause serious neurological conditions like autism.
It sure does. In fact, it holds your place in everything you watch, so you can start as many movies as you want and go back to where you left off in each one later. Unlike most DVD players, which forget everything the moment the tray opens.
I've been saying this for years. Science fiction is a fantastic platform for social commentary precisely because it can convey complex ideas and thought-provoking situations without being overtly political or directly controversial.
Consider how far ahead of its time Star Trek was in terms of exploring a future in which race was irrelevant during the height of the civil rights movement, as well as all of the possible futures that were envisioned (across all of the series) to explore what might happen if humanity continues down a certain path that many people of the time would identify with. Many of those made some pretty grim predictions. Consider also Isaac Asimov's portrayal of robots in the 1950s... many would recognize some social commentary on race in those stories. Twilight Zone, anyone? Sure, some of those episodes were less thought-provoking than others, but quite a few had a poignant "whoa" moment at the end that is both easy to relate to some aspect of society and also hard to forget. The fact that they're all sci-fi stories just means that the writers have a bit more freedom to set the characters up in scenarios that would otherwise be difficult to believe. It's a built-in suspension of disbelief because, after all, "it's just sci-fi, it's not supposed to be real." Conveniently, it still makes you think.
Sci-fi has been able to get people to think about these things for a long time without slapping them in the face with a righteous sermon, and for that I agree it should continue to be much more widely adopted as a platform for "what if..."
Protesting SOPA: you're doing it wrong.
Isn't this precisely what certificate revocation lists are for?
The truth is that all men having power ought to be mistrusted. James Madison
Quite an ironic sig to follow your post! Granted, my own sig is somewhat morally lacking (so there's no value judgment here), and I also appreciate the difference between healthy skepticism and vehement opposition, but I found it amusing nonetheless.
Do you run a sole proprietorship? I do. My business expenses are legally deducted from my taxable income by filing a Schedule C. If I were ever to claim (from the perspective of the IRS) that I "made $1M", it would mean that my actual revenue was significantly greater than that. I don't pay income taxes on the money spent to run the business, because once it goes back into the business, it's not "income" anymore. Obviously there are rules and regulations for what's legitimately deductible, but the point stands.
No. Sorry. Not done yet.
Yes, they've set a date for publishing. But really, let's get the summary right at least.
GP was correct. The first amendment, which gives us the right to free speech in the USofA, says (emphasis mine):
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."
The Constitution gives Congress the power to write certain laws and not others. It is not law in and of itself.
Steve: I've done far worse than bankrupt you, Gates. I've humiliated you. And I wish to go on humiliating you. I shall leave you as you [kinda wish you could have] left me... marooned for all eternity in the mire of public opinion. Buried alive... buried alive
Bill: JOOOOOOOOOOBS!
BTW whats the cake for today.
Who are we kidding? The cake is a lie.
They're doing what NASA no longer has the balls to do.
:%s/balls/funding
FTFY
Anyone who has so much as glanced at a Terminal chart knows this information. Hell, anyone who's played MS Flight Simulator knows this information. A "scanner" in this context most likely means a handheld transceiver, which is perfectly legal to own for monitoring any public transmission (and yes, ATC transmissions are public and unencrypted). Transmitting on an ATC frequency may land you in jail real quick, but then again that's not what we're talking about. There's nothing here that should be considered "too much information" and the fact that you seem to think this behavior is dangerous is troubling in my opinion.
I also consider myself an "aviation geek" -- I've taken a few lessons myself. I'm also a ham radio operator. There is nothing suspicious or illegal about these hobbies or interests. Stop adding to the mass paranoia.
I remember a similar bridge-building contest in 6th or 7th grade, except the winner wasn't necessarily the one who built the strongest bridge, but rather the one who built the bridge with the best strength-to-weight ratio, thereby eliminating most of the kids who adopted the "more material is always better" design mentality. Now, as an engineer, I look back with a whole new level of appreciation for challenges like those.
@Eric they haven’t pulled it yet, which is very strange. They rang us yesterday and said they would, and that there was no recourse for us, but once they did they’d send us a formal email. Perhaps they are getting cold feet? Now I wish they hadn’t called, because this seems like the most amazing PR stunt everto bad it’s not :(
And here I was, all excited for a story that sounds like it came straight out of Snow Crash. Nice try, dude.
You really think the release of this information is the first time the ISPs have heard of web-based speed test tools? Unfortunately I have no citation to provide, but I would not be surprised in the slightest if I were offered evidence that they've been optimizing for these tests for years.
Am I the only one who has run one of those tests and been a little bit confused that the result is very nearly what's advertised by my ISP, but my actual network performance never seems to agree with the test?
TFA cites the exclusive use of keyboards as a flaw... but anyone who has to constantly switch between the keyboard and the mouse knows that it's an annoyingly constant interruption and a pain in the ass. It brings to mind something a former employer of mine once said: "I never really understood the invention of the mouse. Why on Earth would anyone want to take a programmer's hands away from the keyboard?"
The piece in the video is called Lux Aurumque, not Sleep. I've actually performed a wind ensemble version of this piece -- it's extremely difficult due to the very delicate and exposed parts, but Whitacre's music is just gorgeous.
One estimate puts the number of possible sentences at 10^570
What a completely useless metric. It makes sense to examine the context and meaning of speech in order to accurately transcribe words, but the number of possible sentences doesn't seem to accurately describe the problem here...