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Top 10 Things Hollywood Thinks Computers Can Do

An anonymous reader writes "From blowing up your keyboards to developing a malignant sentience, Expert Reviews rounds up the things that movie makers believe computers can do, even though they use the same technology every day to write scripts." I like the summary of how you crack a password in movies. I hate that this page splits into multiple pages. Very lame.

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  1. ENHANCE by coniferous · · Score: 5, Funny

    I wish i could just yell "ENHANCE" at a photo on my computer to make it magically uncover detail that was never originally there. That would be awesome.

    1. Re:ENHANCE by Sir_Lewk · · Score: 2, Informative

      My favourite take on this by far was in Super Troopers. For an instant I thought they were actually doing it seriously ;)

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    2. Re:ENHANCE by MrBippers · · Score: 5, Funny

      I say "enhance" out loud whenever I click the zoom button on google maps.

    3. Re:ENHANCE by Pojut · · Score: 5, Funny

      The best example of this was in Red Dwarf: Return to Earth. They zoomed in on a business card, then zoomed back out. Found a reflection behind the people in the picture, enhanced the reflection, then found a water droplet on a telephone pole, enhanced the reflection from that, and THEN they used a window seen in the reflection on the water droplet to see the back of the card. Then, they flipped the image...all so they could read the address on the back of the card.

      It was fsking epic.

    4. Re:ENHANCE by Barnett · · Score: 1

      Yea, you got to love how they can scan a printed picture, then zoom in on a small silver vase in the background, and end up with a crystal clear picture of the person who took the photo along with everyone else who were standing behind the camera. No wonder I see so many pixelated photos used in ads. Thanks to the movies, the average person now thinks that computers can enlarge a small web graphic back up to 300dpi for printing.

    5. Re:ENHANCE by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Informative

      The best example of this was in Red Dwarf: Return to Earth. They zoomed in on a business card, then zoomed back out. Found a reflection behind the people in the picture, enhanced the reflection, then found a water droplet on a telephone pole, enhanced the reflection from that, and THEN they used a window seen in the reflection on the water droplet to see the back of the card. Then, they flipped the image...all so they could read the address on the back of the card.

      It was fsking epic.

      Very obviously done for laughs
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUFkb0d1kbU

    6. Re:ENHANCE by Coopa · · Score: 1

      Whilst that was a great moment - Return to Earth was pretty awful.

    7. Re:ENHANCE by classic773 · · Score: 2, Informative

      I wish i could just yell "ENHANCE" at a photo on my computer to make it magically uncover detail that was never originally there. That would be awesome.

      While movies typically do this in a b.s. fashion, it is possible to create an "enhanced" still image using multiple frames of a video source. It is called Super-resolution http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super-resolution

    8. Re:ENHANCE by Lumpy · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      for a while? if your definition of "a while" is only 7-10 years.

      I call "a while" the 50 years that fuel injection has been around. 7-10 years = we aint' got the bugs out yet.

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    9. Re:ENHANCE by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Don't forget the nice sounds that this enhancing must make!

    10. Re:ENHANCE by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In "Enemy of the State" with Will Smith, they were able to reconstruct a 3D visualization of what was in Will's bag using one frame from a security camera.

    11. Re:ENHANCE by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Fake!! You can't use the mouse, it has to be a very LOUD keyboard.

    12. Re:ENHANCE by GodfatherofSoul · · Score: 1

      hehe I just made my girlfriend watch Blade Runner this weekend

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    13. Re:ENHANCE by bickerdyke · · Score: 1

      Hooray for reflectoporn!

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    14. Re:ENHANCE by wastedlife · · Score: 5, Funny

      Thanks, I would have thought the sci-fi comedy show, Red Dwarf, was seriously suggesting this was possible. I can now sleep soundly thanks to your enlightening post.

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    15. Re:ENHANCE by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, it is mentioned in the article how they "parried" this ability. Although, I don't really think they "warded off, deflected, or blocked (an attack)" by this ability. I think it is more likely that they "imitated the characteristic style for comic effect or ridicule", so they parodied it.

    16. Re:ENHANCE by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Would that it were only Hollywood that believed this. Unfortunately the courts are often under the same delusion.

    17. Re:ENHANCE by geekoid · · Score: 1

      They d a great version of this in the Cleveland show. Cleveland tells Cleveland Jr to zoom in on the image. Cleveland Jr. Say" It's you tube, I don't think you can do that.." And then is goes into a CSI video zoom/hacker spoof that is excellent.

      I could find a link to just that scene. IT's Season 1 Ep. 16 "Brown Knight"

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    18. Re:ENHANCE by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6i3NWKbBaaU

    19. Re:ENHANCE by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      BTW half the list is stolen from the cracked.com list here http://www.cracked.com/article_15229_5-things-hollywood-thinks-computers-can-do_p2.html

      I would think slashdot would do some checking before linking a list stealing content.

    20. Re:ENHANCE by scorp1us · · Score: 1

      Aside from the voice control, look a ReDynaMix plugin for Photoshop, and learn about exposure bracketing for true HDR.

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    21. Re:ENHANCE by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You mean Smegging epic, of course.

    22. Re:ENHANCE by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      200 : Database handler has not been set directly or in Config in registry in Dennis_Model_Product

    23. Re:ENHANCE by vanderbosch · · Score: 1

      "Enhance....Enhance" "Just print the damn thing!" "Enhance.."

    24. Re:ENHANCE by TheRaven64 · · Score: 4, Interesting

      It's also possible to fill in missing detail with heuristics. For example, if you are enhanching a face, you don't actually zoom in, you have an algorithm that describes faces and you use the the picture to define the starting parameters. You can describe any human face in 50 bits (as a DERA project discovered about ten years ago when trying to fit biometric info onto a magnetic strip), and a fuzzy image probably has more than 50 bits of information regarding the face. Of course, they won't be the right 50 bits, unless you're incredibly lucky, but you can still reconstruct a face that probably looks quite like your suspect, for a value of probably dependent on the quality of the source.

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    25. Re:ENHANCE by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      My favorite like that was an episode of CSI:Miami when they took a regular digital camera image and got the killer from the reflection from someones EYE!

    26. Re:ENHANCE by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > Very obviously done for laughs

      At least something in that dreadful reprise was then!

    27. Re:ENHANCE by seanpaune · · Score: 1

      That would have been my number 1 for a list. Every time a movie or TV show does an "enhance" scene, I believe God kills a puppy.

    28. Re:ENHANCE by Lorens · · Score: 2, Funny

      Not only the average person... copied from:

      Client: “I’ve sent the image. I can’t wait to see the final product.”

      Me: “This image is 115px x 148px at 72dpi. Typically we need images around 1000px and higher with around 150+dpi.”

      Client: “Can’t you just Enhance the images like they do in CSI.”

    29. Re:ENHANCE by Wagoo · · Score: 1

      While movies typically do this in a b.s. fashion, it is possible to create an "enhanced" still image using multiple frames of a video source. It is called Super-resolution http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super-resolution

      Hurrah! I knew there was a point to recording all those Star Trek episodes onto VHS twice. I guessed that having two copies of it would mean I could use both sources to create a super-clean version one day in the future.. umm, not that I ever will.

    30. Re:ENHANCE by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Um, I think slashdot did just check. Thank you for your contribution.

    31. Re:ENHANCE by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      here you go

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUFkb0d1kbU

    32. Re:ENHANCE by scriptedfate · · Score: 0

      Video Source of Photo Enhance skit from Red Dwarf: Back to Earth: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUFkb0d1kbU

    33. Re:ENHANCE by theshowmecanuck · · Score: 0, Troll

      Yeah yeah, you probably yell 'enhance' whenever you take off your PANTS! [ducks]

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    34. Re:ENHANCE by Locke2005 · · Score: 1

      The application of this technology to easily available low-res free porn alone would be awesome!

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    35. Re:ENHANCE by not-my-real-name · · Score: 1

      You missed the best part, "uncrop". That alone would be worth a fortune.

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    36. Re:ENHANCE by StripedCow · · Score: 4, Funny

      That is nothing. Much cooler would be if they found a reflection on a planet approximately 1005 lightyears away from earth, and recorded the birth of Jesus Christ...

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    37. Re:ENHANCE by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Odds are pretty good that you can't legally do that with a copyrighted piece picture, anyway.

    38. Re:ENHANCE by Anne+Thwacks · · Score: 1

      Yes, but that had Will Smith in it. The laws of physics do not apply!

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    39. Re:ENHANCE by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Mentioned in the article: "As we all know, all zooming into a poor-quality image would do is give a muddled blurry mess on the screen. This technique was recently brilliantly parried in Red Dwarf."

    40. Re:ENHANCE by BrokenHalo · · Score: 1

      Fake!! You can't use the mouse, it has to be a very LOUD keyboard.

      Nothing wrong with loud, clacky keyboards. The best ones seem to have been made in about the 1930s. ;-)

      ...Which for some reason brings to mind the show-characters-as-you-type thing mentioned in the (irritatingly second page of the) article:

      No IM system in popular use does this because it makes it harder to edit a response, people can see your response as you edit it, and if you accidentally type something into the chat window, such as a password for your email account, you've got time to delete it before the other person sees it.

      I can name one chat client that does that by default: Skype. Yes, I know you can tell it not to, but it isn't nice to find that out the hard way. And yes, I know Skype is primarily meant to be a VOIP client, but as a result of its ubiquity, it's convenient for IM.

    41. Re:ENHANCE by scot4875 · · Score: 1

      You missed the best part -- before the zooming nonsense even started, they first scan an existing image, then Rimmer says "uncrop" -- and magically the image is widened to *include* the business card. The business card was not even in the original image when it was scanned.

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    42. Re:ENHANCE by Pharmboy · · Score: 0

      I say "enhance" out loud whenever I click the zoom button on google maps.

      Fail.

      "We are sorry, we don't have imagery at this zoom level for this region. Try zooming out for a broader look."

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    43. Re:ENHANCE by publiclurker · · Score: 1

      You forgot to mention the first editing command that they used to start the entire chain off: UNCROP!

    44. Re:ENHANCE by jernejk · · Score: 1

      Well, the next version of photoshop does have a similar feature...

    45. Re:ENHANCE by Keeper+Of+Keys · · Score: 1

      "uncrop"!

    46. Re:ENHANCE by SleazyRidr · · Score: 1

      I like the more serious example from CSI where they examined the blood splatter to determine the shape of the weapon used, and could enhance the picture enough to read the inscription on the side of the blade. Of course, they could only make out half of the letters, because it would be unrealistic if they could read the whole thing.

    47. Re:ENHANCE by sznupi · · Score: 1

      Ohhh, and imagine the fun with a planet approximately 989 light-years from Earth ;p

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    48. Re:ENHANCE by gemada · · Score: 1

      i receive tons of emails with word "enhance" in them.

    49. Re:ENHANCE by Hurricane78 · · Score: 1

      And let me guess, you also wish you could grow your penis in the same way. ;)

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    50. Re:ENHANCE by thesandtiger · · Score: 1

      You mean we can't do this kind of thing?

      Dammit. Next you'll tell me I can't use Visual Basic to hack together a Graphical User Interface to backtrack someone's IP address either, huh?

      GOD DAMMIT TELEVISION! I trusted you!

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    51. Re:ENHANCE by WED+Fan · · Score: 1

      Are the AC's getting more dense and more stupid?

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    52. Re:ENHANCE by Darinbob · · Score: 1

      I say "enhance" in design meetings but it never works there either.

    53. Re:ENHANCE by srussia · · Score: 1

      The best example of this was in Red Dwarf: Return to Earth. They zoomed in on a business card, then zoomed back out. Found a reflection behind the people in the picture, enhanced the reflection, then found a water droplet on a telephone pole, enhanced the reflection from that, and THEN they used a window seen in the reflection on the water droplet to see the back of the card. Then, they flipped the image...all so they could read the address on the back of the card.

      It was fsking epic.

      It's called Indra's Net

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    54. Re:ENHANCE by acheron12 · · Score: 1

      The best part being that all of those enhancements were applied to an area not in the original photo, but recovered via an "uncrop".

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    55. Re:ENHANCE by vlueboy · · Score: 1

      The best example of this was in Red Dwarf: Return to Earth. They zoomed in on a business card, then zoomed back out. Found a reflection behind the people in the picture, enhanced the reflection, then found a water droplet on a telephone pole, enhanced the reflection from that, and THEN they used a window seen in the reflection on the water droplet to see the back of the card. Then, they flipped the image...all so they could read the address on the back of the card.

      It was fsking epic.

      Seems just like the steroids version of a much earlier scene in Will Smith's Enemy of State. The scene shows a single still pic showing a suspect with a shopping bag. Some computer magic allowed the "camera" to fly around matrix like and display the bag's logo. The logo was behind, and here they had no mirrors or water droplets, IIRC. They just had a 3D effect to put the camera "behind" the people photographed. This technology misunderstanding is just like having hypnosis performed on you so you can "go back in time" and get to receive an answer from someone you briefly encountered... no data because a question was never originally asked back then means no answer data in the present, any way you look at it. Unless quantum physics allows you to freaking change timelines without moving a finger.

    56. Re:ENHANCE by CoderJoe · · Score: 1

      Actually, it was all a zoom-in on Rimmer's H.

    57. Re:ENHANCE by dwywit · · Score: 1

      Which version, and is she deck-a-rep or deck-a-human?

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    58. Re:ENHANCE by guytoronto · · Score: 1

      Red Dwarf did "Enhance" best. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xm0CruhJ7Lk

    59. Re:ENHANCE by UpnAtom · · Score: 1

      Yeah because humans are rubbish at that...

    60. Re:ENHANCE by HertzaHaeon · · Score: 1

      UNCROP!

    61. Re:ENHANCE by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It wasn't the bags logo. It was looking at the shape of the bag and the shadows on the bag to reveal that the 'hang' of the bag had changed, and that therefore something had been added to the bag.

    62. Re:ENHANCE by flubby! · · Score: 1

      I'm genuinely interested in the fact that you can "modelize" facial traits in 50 bits or so.

      Could you point me to a source ? I browsed the Defence Science and Technology Laboratory and QinetiQ corporate websites and came up with nothing...

    63. Re:ENHANCE by Meski · · Score: 1

      Un-redact. Oh, wait, that already exists in 'special' apps.

    64. Re:ENHANCE by TheRaven64 · · Score: 1

      I'm not sure if they published it, I just happened to be talking to some of the team while they were working on it (I went to work there briefly about a year later). In the end, I think they realised that storing the data on the card was not especially sensible, so I'm not sure what they did with the parameterised facial model.

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  2. Worst ever use of computer lingo in film by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny
    1. Re:Worst ever use of computer lingo in film by teh31337one · · Score: 5, Funny

      Site with the article is down =/

      This is Numb3rs' description of how IRC works: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2rGTXHvPCQ

    2. Re:Worst ever use of computer lingo in film by networkBoy · · Score: 1

      hahahaha
      that made my day. Never watch that show...
      I know plebs that do. This explains a lot about how they think about computers. Since they all "know I'm a hacker" apparently I'm super cool now?

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    3. Re:Worst ever use of computer lingo in film by TheRaven64 · · Score: 1
      How does stuff like that get into a final product? For those too lazy to watch the video, the dialog is:

      'I'll create a GUI interface in Visual Basic, see if I can track an IP address'

      Don't they have script consultants who can check this kind of thing and tell them it's complete nonsense? Surely someone on the production team has actually used a computer, and can tell them quite how ludicrous this sounds.

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    4. Re:Worst ever use of computer lingo in film by V!NCENT · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Here's the thing; somebody that knows the terms GUI and IP and includes Visual Basic into it knows what computers are what OS's can do, but you must not educate anyone how to actually crack/circumvent security.

      I smell lawsuits...

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    5. Re:Worst ever use of computer lingo in film by theshowmecanuck · · Score: 1
      Here is the worst part. In the article they say this:

      Just see the bit in Watchmen when they correctly guess Ozymandias' password by finding a book on his desk.

      This is the biggest movie myth: that most movie goers could actually stand to sit through this crap movie long enough to get to this part. Fuck I walked out long before that... or possibly just before it. Not sure. I walked out.

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    6. Re:Worst ever use of computer lingo in film by darkmeridian · · Score: 1
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    7. Re:Worst ever use of computer lingo in film by Blakey+Rat · · Score: 3, Funny

      I bring you NBC's Life's take on Prince of Persia: http://www.gametrailers.com/user-movie/prince-of-persia-on-nbcs-life/129534 (Sorry for the ad-filled site; I can't find it on YouTube anymore.)

      The lingo is awful, but the entire premise makes no sense whatsoever-- how do you hide a spreadsheet in a Xbox which can only be viewed if you make it to "level 10" on Prince of Persia? Moreover, does Prince of Persia even have a "level 10?" (No, it does not; the levels are names of different areas of the palace.)

      Truly hilariously awful. Watch the actress whose fingers twitch while watching someone else playing the game.

      I hope Ubisoft didn't pay anything for this product placement.

    8. Re:Worst ever use of computer lingo in film by scot4875 · · Score: 1

      I think that Hollywood has just gotten to the point where it has confused tech jargon with technobabble.

      It was OK for Geordi to say, "I'll redirect a tachyon pulse through the warp manifold to the main deflector dish" because none of that means anything to anyone. But then they try to apply the same thing to actual tech jargon and you end up with disasters like that.

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    9. Re:Worst ever use of computer lingo in film by zach_the_lizard · · Score: 1

      Oh no, they've discovered IRC! Now all my 1337 |-|4>021|\|6 will be discovered! Seriously, does anyone who has computer knowledge look over these scripts for sanity?

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    10. Re:Worst ever use of computer lingo in film by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Now I just want to bang my head against my desk for the rest of the day to destroy that memory from my brain.

    11. Re:Worst ever use of computer lingo in film by Lord+Kano · · Score: 1

      Don't they have script consultants who can check this kind of thing and tell them it's complete nonsense? Surely someone on the production team has actually used a computer, and can tell them quite how ludicrous this sounds.

      I'm sure they do, but they know that their audience is stupid enough for this kind of thing to whiz right on by. You'd have never seen this kind of nonsense on a show that actual geeks watch, like big bang theory. The Lone Gunmen didn't even try to sneak by anything this horrible.

      LK

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    12. Re:Worst ever use of computer lingo in film by BigSes · · Score: 1

      This is Numb3rs' description of how IRC works: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2rGTXHvPCQ [youtube.com]

      Does anyone else out there enjoying saying it like "NUMB - THREE - Rs"? My friends and I have done that for so long that when I see it written like that (lame attempt to cash in on L33T speak, I always thought), I don't even think "Numbers" anymore. Off topic, I know, but it came right to mind. I know we can't be alone on this!

    13. Re:Worst ever use of computer lingo in film by Martin+Blank · · Score: 1

      They frequently do have such consultants, and the consultants cringe regularly (at least until they get completely jaded). They're told various things by the writers, directors, or other production staff ranging from legal issues (don't want to make owners of real IP addresses look bad) to artistic license (advances in technology) to STFU (be happy you have a paycheck). What they don't realize is that people can be just as fascinated by the real workings as they can by the fake workings, at least judging by what has happened when I've shown people how attacks work.

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    14. Re:Worst ever use of computer lingo in film by quag7 · · Score: 1

      My favorite is the misspelling of "retarded" in the annotation. Few things warm my heart more than that.

    15. Re:Worst ever use of computer lingo in film by DavidRawling · · Score: 1

      I'm told by less IT-savvy people, that the nonsense actually sounds plausible and realistic to most of the population. I think this says something about their intelligence, although frankly there are too many of them to insult publicly.

      The fact that it doesn't sound reasonable to us is probably an analogue to surgeons watching medical dramas. Do they experience the same kind of conniptions when some actor talks medical language? Or pilots with aircraft dramas? Is it only IT that is seen as black magic?

    16. Re:Worst ever use of computer lingo in film by TheRaven64 · · Score: 1

      Do they experience the same kind of conniptions when some actor talks medical language?

      Some of these do have truly cringe-worthy dialog, but most shows that have a lot of medical terminology employ a doctor as a script consultant.

      Or pilots with aircraft dramas?

      I've only flown light aircraft and worked a little bit on military aircraft, but I've not noticed anything especially bad in this kind of drama, although they often do seem unaware of how a commercial aircraft will glide or the kind of damage that will cause serious problems.

      Is it only IT that is seen as black magic?

      I think IT is the only field where they feel that they don't need a domain expert to tell them if their jargon is nonsense. A typical script writer or movie producer knows that they aren't qualified to talk about open heart surgery. They've used computers though, so they think they're qualified to write technical dialog.

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    17. Re:Worst ever use of computer lingo in film by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Madly random typing, but no visuals:

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rkm0fut8C30

      (nearly SFW, but might not be depending on where you work)

    18. Re:Worst ever use of computer lingo in film by Blakey+Rat · · Score: 1

      Wrap your head around this one. Remember that shitty movie Armageddeon? Look at their cast&crew list.

      Armageddeon had:

      1) An asteroid consultant ("Yes, I recommend that the asteroid has millions of tiny rocks flying around at all times, and makes a scary sawblade sound regularly.")

      2) A Mission Control Advisor ("I think that it would make more sense if the only two world-saving shuttles we have available were launched simultaneously.")

      3) A guy who specialized in space helmets ("Sure, the helmet could just constantly jet gas up to simulate gravity-- it makes perfect sense! And just so happens to make your production much cheaper.")

      And of course, 4) A science consultant. I'm giving Marian Rudnyk here a pass since he had his name removed from the credits apparently.

  3. My personal favorite by elrous0 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    In Terminator 3, the Terminator T-X is able to take over complete control of automobiles simply by sending a virus to their onboard computers. Forget that none of these cars (most of them older ones at that) have any way for the onboard computer to access steering, acceleration or brakes; the real kicker is when the movie shows one of them actually shifting into gear on its own. And not ONE of them was even a Toyota!

    And, on the opposite side, I would like to recognize the movie "Wargames." It wasn't perfect (the AI is certainly exagerrated), but it's definitely one of the most realistic computer films to ever come out of Hollywood. If they remade that today, they would probably show Joshua blowing up buildings and sending robotic minions after David. As it is, Wargames makes a simple ringing phone and a countdown clock way more suspenseful than anything ever produced with CGI special effects. Kudos to John Badham for getting away with making a movie that's pretty thoughtful and low-key--and just a year after Tron showed us how evil programs can suck you into the digital world with a laser, no less.

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    1. Re:My personal favorite by hitmark · · Score: 1

      could it have been nanites, not just a virus? Still, nanites are hollywoods latest scifi magic trick...

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    2. Re:My personal favorite by clone53421 · · Score: 1

      I’m pretty sure the T-X injected totally new circuitry into the cars. Not only did it upload a virus, it used minuscule amounts of its own material to design completely new computer & control systems.

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    3. Re:My personal favorite by Skater · · Score: 1

      In Terminator 3, the Terminator T-X is able to take over complete control of automobiles simply by sending a virus to their onboard computers. Forget that none of these cars (most of them older ones at that) have any way for the onboard computer to access steering, acceleration or brakes; the real kicker is when the movie shows one of them actually shifting into gear on its own. And not ONE of them was even a Toyota!

      I assumed she quickly installed servos for all that stuff before setting off after the gang. ;)

    4. Re:My personal favorite by Lord+Kano · · Score: 1

      In Terminator 3, the Terminator T-X is able to take over complete control of automobiles simply by sending a virus to their onboard computers.

      You are mistaken. She has nanotechnological tranjectors. In other words, she's installing tiny remote control drones in those electronics. Not a virus, thousands of little remote control robots.

      LK

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    5. Re:My personal favorite by mSparks43 · · Score: 1

      ? Because T-X goo is inanimate ?

    6. Re:My personal favorite by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      If they remade that today, they would probably show Joshua blowing up buildings and sending robotic minions after David.

      Close. Not a remake, but a "sequel" - WarGames 2: The Dead Code. And yeah, it's guilty of all that crap.

    7. Re:My personal favorite by Locklin · · Score: 1

      Most cars have had electronic "throttle by wire" systems for a while. Power-steering systems already have all the mechanical systems for electrical control of steering, and I seem to recall some luxury sedans having some sort of computer "assistance" (power steering gain is adjusted based on speed, etc). Finally, conventional car's brakes are completely independent, but hybrids that use regenerative braking involve the computer. No so far fetched.

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    8. Re:My personal favorite by penguin_dance · · Score: 5, Informative

      Matrix Reloaded: Trinity exploits an actual vulnerability to hack into the power station.

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    9. Re:My personal favorite by camg188 · · Score: 2, Funny

      I started watching The Net 2.0 and at the beginning they show the protagonist at her bank's web page checking her account balance. She dozes off and the camera zooms in on the computer screen to show her account balance rolling down until it reaches zero.
      I immediately shut off the DVD player and never finished watching the movie.

    10. Re:My personal favorite by penguin_dance · · Score: 1

      Oh and the worst was Independence Day when they upload a "virus" to what would be a totally unknown operating system. Does Bill Gates do interplanetary deliveries? But no...they HAD to do a twist on War of the Worlds.

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    11. Re:My personal favorite by elrous0 · · Score: 1

      I guess she was able to send up some servos to control the steering, gearshift, and pedals too.

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    12. Re:My personal favorite by netsavior · · Score: 1

      And not ONE of them was even a Toyota!

      The first car it took over was a Lexus (aka everybody but Americans calls it a Toyota)

    13. Re:My personal favorite by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Of course, Wargames is still guilty of number nine, the easy -to-guess password.

    14. Re:My personal favorite by rubycodez · · Score: 1

      nanites aren't so scary. They wouldn't be able to shift a vehicle nor steer. Now if the Terminator could inject Deadites, on the other hand.... Deadites, those are truly scary.

    15. Re:My personal favorite by FauxPasIII · · Score: 4, Informative

      Here's another one I can recommend for pseudo-realistic hacking: Sneakers

      http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0105435/

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    16. Re:My personal favorite by elrous0 · · Score: 1

      Mercifully, I had never heard of that. Looks like one of those made-for-Syfy movies, only this one doesn't even have the common decency to include Bruce Campbell and a giant killer animal or insect. Matthew Broderick must be spinning in his grave.

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    17. Re:My personal favorite by Nadaka · · Score: 1

      I've mentioned wargames here before as well. It is unquestionable the most realistic depiction of hacking I have ever seen in a movie, ever.

    18. Re:My personal favorite by Lord+Kano · · Score: 1

      Finally, conventional car's brakes are completely independent, but hybrids that use regenerative braking involve the computer.

      They still have computer controlled automatic transmissions. It's not exactly easy to stop a car with it, but you can downshift and slow a car considerably.

      LK

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    19. Re:My personal favorite by elrous0 · · Score: 4, Funny

      I also love it when terrorists are kind enough to color-code their wires to a standard and go to the trouble of attaching a big red countdown clock on their bombs. Very sportsmanlike of them.

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    20. Re:My personal favorite by Domint · · Score: 1

      Matthew Broderick must be spinning in his grave.

      Well, yeah, if he were dead. But he's not.

    21. Re:My personal favorite by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Matrix Reloaded

      InvalidArgumentException: movieTitle does not exist. "Matrix" collection only contains one item.

    22. Re:My personal favorite by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's called Applied Phlebotinum:

      http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/AppliedPhlebotinum

    23. Re:My personal favorite by elrous0 · · Score: 2, Informative

      I'm kind of ashamed to admit that I read the Wargames novelization back in the day (yes, I am a nerd--why do you think I'm on /.). I remember in the book (presumably based on an earlier draft of the screenplay), the password was "Joshua5" (the kid's name and age). In the movie, it was simplified to just "Joshua." "Joshua5" is still not the most secure password in the world, but at least it adds an extra numeric character.

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    24. Re:My personal favorite by Yvanhoe · · Score: 1

      Actually, today, Joshua would send several predator drones that can qualify as 'robotic minions'.

      http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/more_accurate.png

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    25. Re:My personal favorite by Linker3000 · · Score: 1

      All I remember from the first film was that one of the octets in an IP address was in the 300s. Boy did that ruin an otherwise spot-on movie.

      Yep - a blog elsewhere says "75.748.86.91" and "23.75.345.200" were used.

      IPV4.5?

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    26. Re:My personal favorite by elrous0 · · Score: 4, Funny

      He's married to Sarah Jessica Parker. That means at least his soul is dead.

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    27. Re:My personal favorite by Yvanhoe · · Score: 1

      And yet, it uses dumb ballistic bullets instead of smart micro missiles that wouldn't give a chance to the protagonist. It is funny how this kind of movies that depict a futuristic killer as an almost melee machine can exist in a world where the US army has the technology to kill people and destroy the building they use for cover from a distance of several miles.

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    28. Re:My personal favorite by elrous0 · · Score: 1

      Not if you got Ash, baby...not if you got Ash.

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    29. Re:My personal favorite by jandrese · · Score: 1

      Another great example of this is After the Sunset. In this one, one of the protagonists poses as a filthy bum and pretends to wash the cars windshield while it is stopped at a light. This was a ruse such that they could read the VIN with a fancy scanner hidden inside of the squeegee. The person then sent the VIN via a text message to her accomplice who was then able to take complete and utter remote control of the car, from steering to gear to windows and door locks and even the radio using only the VIN.

      The worst part? They did the same ridiculous trick twice in the same movie. OTOH, this was the least of this movie's sins.

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    30. Re:My personal favorite by joeytmann · · Score: 1

      I wonder if its similar to how all phone numbers start with 555.

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    31. Re:My personal favorite by Kell+Bengal · · Score: 1

      Wargames was also a product of a time when a clock counting down was a very apt metaphor for the global political situation. As such, a single phonecall and a timer were perfect tools for unseen but potentially catastrophic peril. Even today, the telephone (or more often cell phone) remains a powerful tool to convey distant potent malice - something is on the end of the line, and it doesn't intend you good. Just as Harley Warren.

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    32. Re:My personal favorite by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      Matrix Reloaded

      InvalidArgumentException: movieTitle does not exist. "Matrix" collection only contains one item.

      I've seen this before, the database is obviously hosed. It also keeps returning alternative names for the only two Indiana Jones and the only three Star Wars movies that were ever made.

    33. Re:My personal favorite by shogun · · Score: 2, Insightful

      All I remember from the first film was that one of the octets in an IP address was in the 300s. Boy did that ruin an otherwise spot-on movie.

      Yep - a blog elsewhere says "75.748.86.91" and "23.75.345.200" were used.

      IPV4.5?

      Thats would have been purposely done to prevent people deciding to attack a real IP belonging to someone out there after seeing it in the film, something along the lines of the 555-xxxx phone numbers they usually use. Of course they could have just used a 10.../192.168.../172.16.. address instead.

    34. Re:My personal favorite by smooth+wombat · · Score: 2, Funny

      Ding! That was the first (of a very few) dvds I bought. While a few parts were exaggerated, the overall concept of how security testing firms do their testing was accurate (for its day).

      But of course, the best part is the infamous lines:

      "I want peace on Earth and goodwill toward men."

      "We are the United States government. We don't do that sort of thing."

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    35. Re:My personal favorite by delinear · · Score: 4, Funny

      I also love it when terrorists are kind enough to color-code their wires to a standard and go to the trouble of attaching a big red countdown clock on their bombs. Very sportsmanlike of them.

      It's understandable. It only takes one or two terrorists to sync the internal timer with the clock in their workshop without realising their watch is slightly slow and (assuming they escape relatively unscathed) you've suddenly got a safety-feature evangelist.

    36. Re:My personal favorite by GungaDan · · Score: 1

      Soul? Not so sure. Visual cortex? Completely gone.

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    37. Re:My personal favorite by Stooshie · · Score: 1

      Yeh, cause the rermote steering was the most unbelieveble part of the film. The whole time travel thing was, like totally believable man!

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    38. Re:My personal favorite by sootman · · Score: 1

      I read an article ages ago (citation needed, I know) that described something else that no one has bothered to do since then: make the typing realistic. They actually programmed the computer so that Matthew Broderick could press any key on the keyboard and the right letter would appear on the screen, so the typing sounds matched exactly to what was showing up. How totally trivial would that be to do today with Flash or even JavaScript?) And yet today, every single movie shows someone pounding away on a keyboard and a few characters appear on the screen--and, as often as not, at totally even intervals.

      Also, the producers loaned him a Galaga machine to practice on while making the movie. When you see him playing in the movie, he's really playing.

      I think this was from an issue of Dynamite way back when.

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    39. Re:My personal favorite by GundamFan · · Score: 1

      That's kind of what I always figured.
      CSI is guilty of this too... all of their IP addresses start with a first octet in the 400s but I guess that is one of the least of their many tech sins.

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    40. Re:My personal favorite by OldeTimeGeek · · Score: 1

      The 555 exchange was reserved for Directory Services in all area codes in the United States and and can't be used for standard numbers (meaning that the owner of a real number doesn't get called by millions of idiots who ask to talk to the movie character).

      Strangely enough, there are a set of numbers that are uniquely reserved for fictional use: 555-0100 through 555-0199.

    41. Re:My personal favorite by TheRaven64 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Not totally inexplicable. Using some of her covering to create servos in the cars wasn't much of a risk, because it would be easy to recover later. This is quite different from bullets, which are often unrecoverable, so the T-X would have been slightly diminished every time it fired.

      As for the melee aspect, the point is made several times in the films and spin-offs that the Terminators are infiltrators. Skynet has things like HKs for longer-distance killing of exposed enemies. The Terminators are designed to go into the resistance's bunkers and kill them.

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    42. Re:My personal favorite by dissy · · Score: 1

      What, not Cooters Rat Semen? ;}

    43. Re:My personal favorite by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If they remade that today, they would probably show Joshua blowing up buildings and sending robotic minions after David.

      http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0865957/

    44. Re:My personal favorite by imakemusic · · Score: 1

      They do that deliberately so that it doesn't point to a real computer. Same reason as they use phone numbers beginning with 555 in US shows and 01632 in the UK.

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    45. Re:My personal favorite by shoehornjob · · Score: 1

      Matrix Reloaded: Trinity exploits an actual vulnerability to hack into the power station.

      She launched her motorcycle into a guard station which promptly blew up. Yeah...that's one HUGE vulnerability. Amazingly the guards survived the explosion but weren't so lucky with the ass beating she dished out on them. Carrie Ann Moss fucking ROCKS.

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    46. Re:My personal favorite by Binkleyz · · Score: 1

      And to prevent Poor Jenny from getting called all day and night. Tommy TuTone, anyone?

    47. Re:My personal favorite by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If they remade that today, they would probably show Joshua blowing up buildings and sending robotic minions after David.

      Too late.

      http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0865957/

      If i would have to blown up, i'll prefer RIPLEY (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0085227/) anytime over the WOPR...

    48. Re:My personal favorite by corbettw · · Score: 5, Informative

      Seems like that's been subverted a few times. A quick check of TVTropes.org should prove whether it has or not. You go ahead and look. No really, it'll be fine. You won't get sucked in and lose the rest of your day, I promise.

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    49. Re:My personal favorite by gyrogeerloose · · Score: 1

      Oh and the worst was Independence Day when they upload a "virus" to what would be a totally unknown operating system.

      Here's a copy of the review of Independence Day I wrote for Netflix:

      "Hey, I've got it! I'll write a computer virus that runs under a completely unknown operating system written by an extraterrestrial intelligence I know nothing about and which, in turn, runs on an alien hardware technology I've never even seen. Then, when I'm done, I'll just hook my laptop up to that alien hardware (which, conveniently, just happens have compatible I/O hardware) and upload to it! Give me a couple of hours..."

      Oh, yeah, for sure...

      2 out of 4 people found it helpful. The other two were obviously not nerds.

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    50. Re:My personal favorite by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ditto for Pirates of the Caribbean.

    51. Re:My personal favorite by Eil · · Score: 1

      That *almost* makes up for all the damage done with the line: "This is where we broadcast our pirate signal and hack into The Matrix."

    52. Re:My personal favorite by vlm · · Score: 1

      Of course they could have just used a 10.../192.168.../172.16.. address instead.

      127.0.0.1 works even better

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    53. Re:My personal favorite by Capt.DrumkenBum · · Score: 1

      I loved that movie.
      First movie as a kid that I ever went to without parents.
      The movie that made me save up and buy my first modem.
      In a way I have Wargames to thank for my career in IT.

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    54. Re:My personal favorite by Haiyadragon · · Score: 0
    55. Re:My personal favorite by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ah. That's because that clip (which *was* cool) was in the "deleted scenes" from The Matrix.

      At least, that's what I tell myself to account for the incongruity.

    56. Re:My personal favorite by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      All I can say is: lol. thank you for this post

    57. Re:My personal favorite by natehoy · · Score: 1

      The Terminators are designed to go into the resistance's bunkers and kill them.

      I think that's the point. It would be horribly inefficient to send something that looks human into a bunker to kill all the humans there, when you could expend a lot less effort and send a swarm of 1,000,000 things the size of a housefly who could simply fly in through the air vents, burrow into their necks and sever their spinal cords rather easily.

      It's also a good thing Skynet never figured out vision beyond human-normal, because a Terminator with infrared, ultraviolet, or deep-scan RADAR capability would completely eliminate the need to infiltrate human encampments in order to discover them.

      And it's a damned good thing that Skynet never developed any form of nerve gas that they'd be immune from but would simply wipe out any human populations, and just gassed the crap out of any suspected human settlements from 20,000 feet.

      It's a good thing they never introduced a sequel that showed Skynet mastering any form of living-liquid-metal technology or any of these other technologies that could have made such a plot hole possible, because that would have completely ruined the whole premise of the story.

      Hell, it's a good thing they never discovered how to send back more than one Terminator at a time, or taught them to use computers so they could quickly figure out which "Sarah Connor" to find first.

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    58. Re:My personal favorite by YrWrstNtmr · · Score: 2, Interesting

      The person then sent the VIN via a text message to her accomplice who was then able to take complete and utter remote control of the car, from steering to gear to windows and door locks and even the radio using only the VIN.

      That's actually not that far fetched. Hack into the OnStar system. Via the VIN, you should (now having full access to the db) be able to retrieve the actual control code for a specific car. And OnStar today can lock doors, engine shutdown, etc. Not steering, but pretty much everything else.

    59. Re:My personal favorite by paulej72 · · Score: 1

      Except for Joshua cracking the launch codes. You can't crack the code by cracking each individual letter separately.

    60. Re:My personal favorite by naoursla · · Score: 1

      In the novelization, it was explained that Skynet had sent agents back in time to begin takeover of our industrial complex. Most machines had been designed for remote control and the factors would switch over to churning out Hunter Killers on Judgement Day. The terminator was able to take over those cars because they had been designed to be taken over.

      Although, in the book, most of the cars on the planet started driving themselves and killing humans on that day.

    61. Re:My personal favorite by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually, the storyline said they had been researching the crashed UFO since 1947, so they had about 50 years to learn the operating system.

    62. Re:My personal favorite by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They actually did remake it today. I didn't see it though.

    63. Re:My personal favorite by arthurpaliden · · Score: 1

      Enemy of the State, where they rotate the image from the still security camera to view hidden surfaces.

    64. Re:My personal favorite by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You ARE aware of "Wargames 2"? http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0865957/ :-(

    65. Re:My personal favorite by kimvette · · Score: 1

      I would like to recognize the movie "Wargames." It wasn't perfect (the AI is certainly exagerrated), but it's definitely one of the most realistic computer films to ever come out of Hollywood. If they remade that today, they would probably show Joshua blowing up buildings and sending robotic minions after David.

      I didn't see it, but perhaps the 2008 remake will give you what you want? http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0865957/

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    66. Re:My personal favorite by kimvette · · Score: 1

      It also does that for Superman I & II and Highlander.

      For some reason, IMDB claims there was more than one Highlander film. How can that be, when there can be only one?

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    67. Re:My personal favorite by PingSpike · · Score: 1

      Are we sure this isn't just an extension of the Hollywood 555 phone exchange convention?

    68. Re:My personal favorite by DarthVain · · Score: 1

      Even more funny would be a Wargames based in the 70's rather than 80's...

      OMG the puchcards machines are revolting!

    69. Re:My personal favorite by omnichad · · Score: 1

      Then why can't these IP's start with 10.
       
      It's a reserved address space similar to 555.

    70. Re:My personal favorite by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not quite correct. :P

      T3 had *nanobots* that could re-wire chips. Now, current cars already have power steering, brakes and gas pedal is a decoration. Basically the onboard computers controls most actions in response to user input. It would be impossible to take over manual transmissions, but that T3 had was not inconceivable.

    71. Re:My personal favorite by Nadaka · · Score: 1

      That and defeating the ai by making it realize that everyone looses in a full scale nuclear exchange.

    72. Re:My personal favorite by BigSes · · Score: 2, Funny

      ..and all his oats have been eaten.

    73. Re:My personal favorite by CoderJoe · · Score: 1

      Actually, anything starting with 127 would work. the entire 127/8 network block is loopback.

    74. Re:My personal favorite by The+Archon+V2.0 · · Score: 1

      Yeh, cause the rermote steering was the most unbelieveble part of the film. The whole time travel thing was, like totally believable man!

      Suspension of disbelief covers the fantastically impossible but not the incredibly improbable. An evil wizard from a magical universe intent on summoning a building-sized demon in the middle of Chicago? No problem. The hero trying random phone numbers and happening to call a plot-relevant phone number on his second try? The audience will be in an uproar, even though it's more possible than the evil wizard.

    75. Re:My personal favorite by matty619 · · Score: 1

      btw, *love* your sig. So true :)

    76. Re:My personal favorite by Lunzo · · Score: 1

      There were 3 Indiana Jones movies from the 80s.

    77. Re:My personal favorite by HeronBlademaster · · Score: 1

      Oh and the worst was Independence Day when they upload a "virus" to what would be a totally unknown operating system.

      In theory they had had the one little ship for several years to study. If you're willing to suspend disbelief enough to suppose the existence of those aliens, it's silly not to extend that suspension to include the idea that they could have studied the computer on board the crashed ship enough to know how to interact with it.

      But having the virus seek out displays to print skulls and seek out audio devices to broadcast evil laughter... that was a bit much.

    78. Re:My personal favorite by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Unfortunately they did re-make it:

      http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0865957/ ...and they had RIPLEY sending the robotic minions after "david". The WOPR via Joshua was, of course, sent in to destroy RIPLEY.

      P.S. don't ever invest in trying to watch it if you have any respect for WarGames.

    79. Re:My personal favorite by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And once again, the Goatman makes XKCD better:

      http://goatkcd.com/566/ (NSFW)

    80. Re:My personal favorite by dwye · · Score: 1

      > In the movie, it was simplified to just "Joshua."

      If this was a novelization, the movie came first, and the book is based on it. Therefore, "Joshua5" was used in the book because someone thought that just Joshua was just too simple (for a backdoor password? I suppose that the password to improperly bypass security should be secure, according to the Orange Books). Sometimes the book comes out before the movie release, but then it is based on the shooting script, and might have dropped scenes still included.

    81. Re:My personal favorite by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You have trouble finding starting a car realistic compared to a melting machine?
      Just imagine its nanoprobes were all over that starter

      Why so serious?

    82. Re:My personal favorite by I'm+not+really+here · · Score: 1

      Absolutely agree. This is about as close to reality as I've seen yet for a computer based movie. I especially love the showing off of a braille computer interface. That movie is still one of my favorites.

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    83. Re:My personal favorite by TheTurtlesMoves · · Score: 1

      Or that the machines harnessing humans as an energy source ..."combined with a form of fusion had all the energy they need".

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    84. Re:My personal favorite by Island+Admin · · Score: 1

      They actually had one of the alien craft in Area-51 .. so maybe they figured out the OS, data interfaces, etc from that? :P

    85. Re:My personal favorite by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wargames is one of the worst movies when it comes to realism. Why?

      Chicks don't dig hackers and would never be even interested in games like Global Thermonuclear War.

    86. Re:My personal favorite by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There is sequel to Wargames:
      http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0865957/

    87. Re:My personal favorite by elrous0 · · Score: 1

      It was based on earlier drafts of the script (if this book is to be believed). It's funny to remember that back then almost every major movie had a novelization. Before the mid-80's, it was the closest thing to home video that most people could afford. I don't see many novelizations anymore. I guess they've fallen out of favor now that you can own a copy of the actual movie in your home.

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    88. Re:My personal favorite by catbertscousin · · Score: 1

      Skynet was too busy playing online poker with V'ger.

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    89. Re:My personal favorite by Tresh · · Score: 1

      And it doesn't find Hackers.

    90. Re:My personal favorite by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The thing about the Terminator movies is why did they send back a single killer robot? If the AI running things had any clue it'd follow the methods of any decent RTS game and send a construction bot back in time. Once you get a factory up and running in someplace resource rich like a junkyard, you could have as many kill-bots as you desired to get the job done.

      Now whether or not that would make an interesting movie is another topic, but at least it would make a lot more sense.

    91. Re:My personal favorite by virg_mattes · · Score: 1

      The apologist's take on this is that the computer system isn't completely unknown. Scientists had been in posession of (and been closely examining) the ship in the Area 51 hangar for fifty years. Considering that there's virtually no change from that ship to the ones that showed up to attack, I'd say that they had a pretty up-close understanding of the hardware at least. Given that, it might be possible to engineer a virus that can be uploaded wirelessly, that would affect the hardware directly. Imagine writing a worm that forced a computer to reboot and run its own OS.

      Virg

    92. Re:My personal favorite by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And, on the opposite side, I would like to recognize the movie "Wargames." It wasn't perfect (the AI is certainly exagerrated), but it's definitely one of the most realistic computer films to ever come out of Hollywood. If they remade that today, they would probably show Joshua blowing up buildings and sending robotic minions after David. As it is, Wargames makes a simple ringing phone and a countdown clock way more suspenseful than anything ever produced with CGI special effects. Kudos to John Badham for getting away with making a movie that's pretty thoughtful and low-key--and just a year after Tron showed us how evil programs can suck you into the digital world with a laser, no less.

      Wargames: The Dead Code (2008)

  4. Yeah that is so annoying... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I hate that this page splits into multiple pages. Very lame.

    Computers cannot fix everything.

    1. Re:Yeah that is so annoying... by biryokumaru · · Score: 1

      Yes they can.

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  5. Gotta love the "Gibson" in Hackers, eh? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

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    1. Re:Gotta love the "Gibson" in Hackers, eh? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I've got something you need to see. Meet me at the indoor rollerblading skate ramp/arcade; you know the one.

    2. Re:Gotta love the "Gibson" in Hackers, eh? by arb+phd+slp · · Score: 1

      Forget the Gibson, the computer at the school controlled the sprinkler system!

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    3. Re:Gotta love the "Gibson" in Hackers, eh? by V!NCENT · · Score: 1

      Yo! Who ate all of my fries?!

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    4. Re:Gotta love the "Gibson" in Hackers, eh? by Creepy · · Score: 1

      The funny thing about that movie is I hadn't read any Gibson at the time, so I totally missed the references. I laughed at it and made fun of how they got even simple concepts wrong (virus, worm, etc). Having seen it again recently and having read Gibson, the references make a lot more sense, as does the visual hacking stuff - it is obvious the screenwriters read Gibson and then wrote a screenplay without ever even meeting or consulting a real hacker. Of course, the whole thing is inane, but it made it at least a bit more enjoyable to just take it as total fantasy that has nothing to do with reality. That and I still find it hilarious that Zero Cool (the guy that played Eli Stone... real name is escaping me and I'm too lazy to look it up) was Angelina Jolie's first husband.

  6. FTFA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    In Star Trek, Kirk need only ask an alien computer to "Explain. The. Human emotion. Known. As.....Love", for it to go into a bizarre loop where its logical systems can't computer and it explodes.

    I hate it when my machine can't computer.

    1. Re:FTFA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The only way to help computer is to stop all the downloadin'. There was even a USArmy public service announcement. I learned a lot.

    2. Re:FTFA by Zordak · · Score: 1
      My machine didn't computer! Why, it hardly even knew her! (*ching!*)

      Thanks. I'll be here all week.

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    3. Re:FTFA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's because you accidentally the computer.

    4. Re:FTFA by tequila13 · · Score: 1

      When I think about the human emotion love, often I go in a bizarre loop because I can't compute her.

    5. Re:FTFA by tequila13 · · Score: 1

      That happens to me a lot when I think about the human emotion love, often I can't compute her.

  7. this topic... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    is old and boring, how many of these articles are there? I swear one of these pops up every 6 months.

    1. Re:this topic... by Rhaban · · Score: 1

      is old and boring, how many of these articles are there? I swear one of these pops up every 6 months.

      Nope, it's the same one that gets copypasted every single time with some minor changes.

    2. Re:this topic... by biryokumaru · · Score: 1

      Mmm... this copypasta is delicious. Would you like some?

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  8. #8 now true by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Google wave actually shows each character as it is typed.

    1. Re:#8 now true by Coopa · · Score: 2, Informative

      ICQ had this ability in a realtime chat mode about 10 years ago too.

    2. Re:#8 now true by dskzero · · Score: 1

      And it was a really bad design choice.

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    3. Re:#8 now true by Steve+Max · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Well, no IM system that people actually use shows each character as it is typed.

      Seriously, who uses Google Wave regularly? Or Google Buzz, for that matter?

    4. Re:#8 now true by TheRaven64 · · Score: 1

      talk had this ability about 40 years ago (on the PDP-11). It let you tell your boss he was a complete moron^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^Hdoing a great job.

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    5. Re:#8 now true by WuphonsReach · · Score: 1

      Well, no IM system that people actually use shows each character as it is typed.

      e/pop (a corporate IM solution from a few years back) used to have this feature.

      (Naturally, as the admin, I disabled it.)

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    6. Re:#8 now true by Steve+Max · · Score: 1

      So does Unix "talk", but I'd be surprised if those systems had more regular users than Wave.

    7. Re:#8 now true by miggyb · · Score: 1

      The Unix talk command also sent conversations character-by-character. This was made in the 70s.

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  9. Hollywood is partially right by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    I can't perform my daily sysadmin duties unless I'm getting fellatio from a chick under my desk at the same time as having a loaded gun pointed at my head while someone counts down from an arbitrary number.

    1. Re:Hollywood is partially right by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So you call breaking into government servers your daily sysadmin duties? Well, I didn't know Travolta was your Boss. :D

    2. Re:Hollywood is partially right by SiaFhir · · Score: 1

      Oh yes, my favourite part of that whole movie... pleasure and fear messin with ma consentrashun... and oh look I successfully hacked into the most secure computer in the U.S.! Yeah right... I always get the pleasure over with before concentrating. And fear? It'll freeze me up like Windoze.

    3. Re:Hollywood is partially right by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So, you work at an investment bank on Wall Street?

    4. Re:Hollywood is partially right by The+Grim+Reefer2 · · Score: 1

      Oh yes, my favourite part of that whole movie... pleasure and fear messin with ma consentrashun... and oh look I successfully hacked into the most secure computer in the U.S.! Yeah right... I always get the pleasure over with before concentrating. And fear? It'll freeze me up like Windoze.

      "Oh she's good isn't she! "

    5. Re:Hollywood is partially right by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      beautifully stated. You just discribed my 9 to 5

    6. Re:Hollywood is partially right by Crayon+Kid · · Score: 1

      You're joking but actually at #7 (deleted files start dissapearing from screen) they're accurately describing a modern Linux desktop. :)

      Think about it:
      * if you have a file manager open, such as Nautilus, and someone were to start deleting files, they would dissapear from view;
      * there's no undelete on Linux;
      * most people would not think to turn the computer off; they'd try mousing around or disconnecting the network; which would accomplish nothing if the deletion is a background job.

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    7. Re:Hollywood is partially right by halfey · · Score: 0

      computers can explode even without explosives inside it. At least Hollywood are giving the terrorists their idea

    8. Re:Hollywood is partially right by ElectricTurtle · · Score: 1

      Another dramatic moment ruined by crappy software! Damn you, Bill Gates!

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    9. Re:Hollywood is partially right by nine-times · · Score: 1

      Well I bet you could do your sysadmin duties without all that, but would you want to?

    10. Re:Hollywood is partially right by del_diablo · · Score: 1

      Well, permenent delete would be true if you made sure to actually overwrite the file............ But in movies they apparently force flushing on RAM as well........

    11. Re:Hollywood is partially right by Golddess · · Score: 1

      File manager, yes, but TFA makes it sound like, for example, I opened something in notepad, someone deletes the file I opened, and suddenly notepad loses the file.

      Although that said, I'm sure there are some programs that would lose the file (or only be able to retain what was on the screen at the time) in such a situation.

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    12. Re:Hollywood is partially right by fedcb22 · · Score: 1

      True, but if a file were actually open, the deletion would have no effect. As a neat trick, you can be downloading a file, say, using wget. Then move the file that's being downloaded, or even delete it. The download will continue as if nothing happened. Reason being that on *nix systems, a file descriptor is used, and as long as that is open, the file isn't really deleted. It's even possible to recover deleted files that are open this way. And undelete depends on the underlying filesystem, journaling, etc.

    13. Re:Hollywood is partially right by rickb928 · · Score: 4, Funny

      You had me at 'fellatio'.

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    14. Re:Hollywood is partially right by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I won't perform my daily sysadmin duties unless I'm getting fellatio from a chick under my desk at the same time as having a loaded gun pointed at my head while someone counts down from an arbitrary number.

      There, fixed that fer ya'.

    15. Re:Hollywood is partially right by kimvette · · Score: 1
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    16. Re:Hollywood is partially right by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sounds like someone is having a case of the Mondays.

    17. Re:Hollywood is partially right by tagno25 · · Score: 1

      There are a few undelete programs. I know I have had to use one (windows program in wine tried deleting the computer)

    18. Re:Hollywood is partially right by HeronBlademaster · · Score: 1

      Someone deleting files remotely wouldn't close any apps you have open that are looking at those files.

    19. Re:Hollywood is partially right by AK+Marc · · Score: 1

      On Windows, they'd get an error because they'd be trying to perform a disallowed operation on an open/locked file.

    20. Re:Hollywood is partially right by plan10 · · Score: 1

      Linux is a filesystem?

    21. Re:Hollywood is partially right by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So what you trying to say is you've never actually done your job, ever.

  10. Obligatory by Monkeedude1212 · · Score: 1

    Still, Jeff Goldblum's power book hacking into and planting a virus in highly advanced space faring alien architecture has to be my favourite. Don't know if that made the list.

    1. Re:Obligatory by XxtraLarGe · · Score: 1

      Still, Jeff Goldblum's power book hacking into and planting a virus in highly advanced space faring alien architecture has to be my favourite. Don't know if that made the list.

      Yeah, it's the rule where good guys always use Macs.

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    2. Re:Obligatory by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you watch all the scenes they cut from the movie, you learn how he was able to do this.

    3. Re:Obligatory by atomic-penguin · · Score: 1

      Yeah, it's the rule where good guys always use Macs.

      I always assumed the aliens were using Apple computers too, seeing as how Goldblum's character infected their ship with a virus written and compiled on his Apple laptop.

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    4. Re:Obligatory by Colonel+Korn · · Score: 4, Funny

      If you watch all the scenes they cut from the movie, you learn how he was able to do this.

      The aliens used a linksys router and left the login info as admin/admin.

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    5. Re:Obligatory by m.ducharme · · Score: 1

      Oh come on, everyone knows Macs don't catch viruses!

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    6. Re:Obligatory by TheRaven64 · · Score: 1

      You've never used a cross compiler?

      The fact that the alien's computer supported AppleTalk is a bit harder to explain...

      And since AppleTalk is no longer supported in OS X 10.6, we'd better hang on to some old Macs, just in case the aliens do turn up.

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    7. Re:Obligatory by mjake · · Score: 1

      What is even worse, but seldom pointed out, is why would a technologically advanced race be broadcasting every increment of a countdown timer between ships? Do they not have clocks? They can't just specify a precise time in the future to attack? Do you think it would have been smart for the allies to broadcast a countdown (encrypted or not) for days or hours before launching the invasion of Normandy? The whole idea of having the countdown broadcast is kind of ridiculous.

    8. Re:Obligatory by Monkeedude1212 · · Score: 1

      Agreed, though I think it was a matter of relativistic physics, where a clock might not have been synched when travelling various distances in space.

      Though really, whats a few seconds between annihilating cities.

    9. Re:Obligatory by Blakey+Rat · · Score: 1

      No, the dumb part wasn't that they were using communication satellites-- any invading army with their resources would be doing that. (If nothing else, they'd probably want to put GPS satellites in orbit so they know where the hell they are.)

      The truly retarded part was that they were using humanity's pre-existing satellites for that purpose instead of launching their own. Seriously? They can pack in two dozen city-sized flying saucers and millions of laser fighters in a moon-sized mothership, but they couldn't manage a few dozen 10-meter satellites?

      Nope, instead of using our own satellites, let's give the humans an easily-detected warning that we're coming (complete with a countdown to the exact second of attack!), and let them decode our communication protocols while we're at it. It'll save a couple bucks.

      Aliens that dumb deserved to be nuked by Mac from Earth Girls are Easy.

    10. Re:Obligatory by Monkeedude1212 · · Score: 1

      I suppose the error we make is that Aliens would be past the idiotic Pointy Haired Boss phase.

    11. Re:Obligatory by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Rationalization time!

      1. By injecting their signal into human satellites, they get the added bonus of initially disrupting our communication with interference. At least until we figure out a way to filter it.

      2. The countdown is them saying, "That's right, we're so badass that we'll LET you know when we attack, 'cause there's nothing you can do about it."

    12. Re:Obligatory by valduboisvert · · Score: 1

      The alien sysadmin in charge of that router got .. fired !!

  11. Had to stop at... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ... the sentence which ends with "...for it to go into a bizarre loop where its logical systems can't computer and it explodes." Very reminiscent of "All your base are belong to us."

    1. Re:Had to stop at... by delinear · · Score: 1

      Oh yes, because an easy to make typo (note the position of the extraneous "r" beside the previously typed "e" key, and the fact that the subject matter is computers and therefore the brain is likely to glance at this and assume it's correct) completely invalidates the article. It's not the greatest article in the world, by any means, but if you have such a low tolerance threshold, how the hell do you manage to read anything online? How does your head not explode reading Slashdot?

    2. Re:Had to stop at... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Slashdot isn't bad (relatively). I accidentally read some Youtube comments once, and spent 6 weeks in therapy.

  12. Re:! =D =D by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    first? HAIL HAIL!

    3rd. FAIL FAIL!

  13. then don't reward them? by SuperBanana · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I hate that this page splits into multiple pages. Very lame.

    Then...don't reward them by linking to them?

    "BAD, Johhny! Don't pull your brother's hair! Here's an ice cream sundae."

    1. Re:then don't reward them? by corbettw · · Score: 1

      I think they were punished by having their site slashdotted. Seems fitting, somehow.

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    2. Re:then don't reward them? by OnlyJedi · · Score: 4, Funny

      Considering that one of the things it seems the article's computer *can't* do is handle a slashdotting without crashing and going up in flames, I would hardly consider linking to them being a reward.

    3. Re:then don't reward them? by Skater · · Score: 4, Funny

      Considering that one of the things it seems the article's computer *can't* do is handle a slashdotting without crashing and going up in flames, I would hardly consider linking to them being a reward.

      I love that someone used that "going up in flames after being Slashdotted" cliche on an article about things computers don't actually do.

    4. Re:then don't reward them? by L4t3r4lu5 · · Score: 1
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    5. Re:then don't reward them? by SiaFhir · · Score: 1

      I love that someone used that "going up in flames after being Slashdotted" cliche on an article about things computers don't actually do.

      Yes they can.

      http://www.10news.com/news/20811988/detail.html

      http://www.tgdaily.com/games-and-entertainment-brief/33652-high-end-voodoo-pc-catches-fire-at-pc-mags-labs

      http://www.engadget.com/2007/03/12/macbook-catches-fire-down-under/

      http://www.engadget.com/2006/06/22/dude-your-dell-is-on-fire/

    6. Re:then don't reward them? by Skater · · Score: 1

      Since you brought it up: From your own badly linked article: "However, there have never been any actual reports of printers which had friction-related fires."

    7. Re:then don't reward them? by dissy · · Score: 1

      Since you brought it up: From your own badly linked article: "However, there have never been any actual reports of printers which had friction-related fires."

      I can't say I've ever seen a dot matrix (or any) printer catch fire from friction, my own first personal experience with that was the error messages in the Linux LPT driver source, warning you on the console messages that the printer was indeed on fire!

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lp0_on_fire

      One could trigger this error in hardware by bringing a couple status bits on the port high as well ;}

    8. Re:then don't reward them? by TheRaven64 · · Score: 1

      If computers can't spontaneously catch fire, why did BeOS have an is_computer_on_fire() system call to check if it had done?

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    9. Re:then don't reward them? by Skater · · Score: 1

      Wow. Did you not read the thread of messages you responded to, or what?

    10. Re:then don't reward them? by Skater · · Score: 1

      Those happened because of a Slashdotting?

    11. Re:then don't reward them? by shogun · · Score: 1

      Considering that one of the things it seems the article's computer *can't* do is handle a slashdotting without crashing and going up in flames, I would hardly consider linking to them being a reward.

      I love that someone used that "going up in flames after being Slashdotted" cliche on an article about things computers don't actually do.

      You might not have had happen but I have. A proxy server whose RAID controller quite literally caught fire, fortunately it didn't burn for long or hot, just enough to char the inside a little - the server room suppression system didn't get set off...

    12. Re:then don't reward them? by An+ominous+Cow+art · · Score: 1

      In case an HCF instruction got executed...

    13. Re:then don't reward them? by dissy · · Score: 1

      Doh!

      Well, that would be a 'no'. However, more accurately a 'I did try!'

      I'm not quite sure which tab I hit 'parent' in, but it was decidedly not the tab with your post in it.

      Let's chalk this one up to I didn't sleep last night, so it's still a Monday ;}
      Sorry!

    14. Re:then don't reward them? by SQLGuru · · Score: 1

      Switching to keyboard.....

      I know I'm not the only one who read that blurb and then looked down at the keyboard under their fingers.....what self-respecting computer geek CAN'T operate their computer without the mouse? I find that for speed, I switch to keyboard shortcuts and command line....mostly because my keyboard has a BUFFER and I can stack commands while others are processing. My mouse isn't that smart.

      Visual viruses.....

      Old school viruses were pretty visual. They weren't so much malicious as they were "Kilroy was here" type of messages. My favorite virus (which I should still have an infected 5 1/4 around here somewhere) was Pong. It could infect a file multiple times and for each infection, it would create a single bouncy dot that went around your screen. I remember seeing a computer that had like 6 or 7 dots all going around at once. Sure, the new ones are about theft, but the old school ones would do exactly what was described.

    15. Re:then don't reward them? by Dracker · · Score: 1
  14. Good guys only use macs by OzPeter · · Score: 1

    Yeah I read TFA .. but I can point out an exception to "the good guys only use macs". In one of the robocop movies (#2?? I know I never saw #3 or anything later if there was anything??) the robocop interface is shown as DOS like, but his nemesis is shown having a mac like interface.

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    1. Re:Good guys only use macs by hitmark · · Score: 1

      my guess there, mac is what is available for the studio crew. So when the script say "computer" they grab the nearest one for the shot, and it will more likely then not be a mac, thanks to its longish history in media circles.

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    2. Re:Good guys only use macs by OnlyJedi · · Score: 1

      Well, considering that Robocop 2 was made in March 1990, a few months after System 6.0.5 and a few months before Windows 3.0 were released, it is hardly surprising that they used a DOS computer. That's what most people would have recognized after all. The whole "good guys use Mac" meme is a much more recent phenomenon.

    3. Re:Good guys only use macs by OzPeter · · Score: 1

      I know what I pointed out was a historical quirk, but it amused me at the time to recognize the joke embedded in the movie.

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    4. Re:Good guys only use macs by Myopic · · Score: 1

      That is true, and Apple promotes the practice by providing gratis computers (especially laptops over the past decade or so) to movie and TV producers. The computers are technically loaners, due back after the filming is complete.

    5. Re:Good guys only use macs by HTH+NE1 · · Score: 1

      Then there's instances like 24 where CTU was using Macs and the terrorists were using an Alienware gaming laptop to trigger the launch of a missile and nothing else!

      I'm expecting a Art Lebedev's Optimus Maximum keyboard to be used just to display "Access Denied" across all the keycaps. Or, even better, a countdown for a self-destruct, 'cause nothing says, "Fuck you!" to the hero better than using a $2400 keyboard and custom software to drive it to tell him just how long he has left to live before killing him.

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    6. Re:Good guys only use macs by hitmark · · Score: 1

      big red turbo button?

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    7. Re:Good guys only use macs by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      Then there's instances like 24 where CTU was using Macs and the terrorists were using an Alienware gaming laptop to trigger the launch of a missile and nothing else!

      They get that stuff one of two ways. One, they get stuff dumped on them as a form of advertising. Two, they get paid to include products. And three, someone gets to keep all this shit in a lot of cases, so if they actually buy something, they buy something they can give their kids for Christmas without getting dirty looks like "where did you dig up that piece of shit?" the motivation to buy way too much hardware is huge.

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    8. Re:Good guys only use macs by Knara · · Score: 1

      Unlikely. Apple almost certainly pays for those product placements (or gets paid, as the case may be). No branding makes it into a major (or minor) studio movie by accident.

    9. Re:Good guys only use macs by Tak_1 · · Score: 1

      In the silly Christian propaganda scare film "left Behind" the anti-christ is clearly seen using an old "Wallstreet" Powebook. So not ALL the good guys use Macs. But then again, that depends on your definition of good guys. http://www.normalbobsmith.com/worstmovies/worstmovies_leftbehind.html [normalbobsmith.com] There is a screen-shot about half way through the review of the evil one cranking up his G3. Seriously though, they use Macs because they look great under harsh lighting. Most PC laptops aren't as photogenic under harsh studio lights. Under bright lights, shiny aluminum is still shiny, and black plastic looks like, well plastic.

  15. Plot tools by clone53421 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    That’s what they are.

    Plot tools.

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    1. Re:Plot tools by delinear · · Score: 1

      That’s what they are.

      Plot tools.

      That's not really an excuse, though. Cars are plot tools sometimes, but we don't see commuters driving around at 700MPH while fire belches from the 17 exhausts in an otherwise realistic scene.

    2. Re:Plot tools by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They might be plot tools, but have you heard the phrase deus ex machina? It's a sign of poor script writing when the only way you can pull the story together is to bust out some magical shit at the last second that makes it all just "work."

    3. Re:Plot tools by clone53421 · · Score: 1

      That was sort of my point.

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    4. Re:Plot tools by tool462 · · Score: 1

      Have you seen Speed? Impossible car jumps, improbable explosions

      The car stunts performed in movies are just as much a lie as the computer bits. They're carefully crafted stunts performed with the aid of well timed explosions, specially rigged cars and sets, and professionally trained drivers (or remote control rigs) that then still take dozens of takes before they get the one that worked correctly on film.

    5. Re:Plot tools by Myopic · · Score: 1

      Your mom is a plot tool.

    6. Re:Plot tools by Darinbob · · Score: 1

      I think people are in two camps on this. I see them as obvious silly plot holes covered in duck tape. But I've got a friend who happily accepts them all. He even thinks the Phantom Menace and The Core were pretty good movies, and sees nothing wrong with humans-as-batteries in the Matrix. I point out the absurdity of some plot tools and he just shrugs and says something like "but that actress was really cute" or something.

      In some sense science fiction and fantasy allow you to tell some really good stories, but they typically try to keep an internal logic. You accept a few unrealistic ideas (magic or time travel or FTL actually exists) but the rest of background remains logically consistent. At least in the good stories. But a lot of Hollywood writers abuse this to no end, and assume that they can make up anything as long as the lame story keeps moving. They're often writing for people with incredibly short attention spans so that they have to keep the action moving continuously, punctuated with explosions that they say "oooh!" instead of "huh?"

      Now if these writers were actually making a good story, they could be forgiven. But the stories themselves are crap. So you're just left with action and special effects and visuals. It's fine if you say "what if" and follow with "humans were really living in virtual reality and everything is illusion", and then create a story that explores the implications of this. But too often it's "what if" followed by "we can blow lots of stuff ". Compare Dark City to The Matrix for instance.

      But as long as there's an audience that pays good money for this stuff, Hollywood is going to produce the same drek.

  16. Must be controlled with a keyboard... by damn_registrars · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The article tries to assert that somehow a keyboard is not an effective way of controlling a computer in a hurry. I would like to say that they are full of shit. On any OS that is worth anything, I do more work with the keyboard than with the mouse; especially if the situation is urgent. I don't want to be inconvenienced with a mouse when something important is going down, I want all my fingers available for typing.

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    1. Re:Must be controlled with a keyboard... by Speare · · Score: 2, Funny

      (zoomy experimental mouse/OpenGL file browser shows on Iris Crimson minicomputer...)

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    2. Re:Must be controlled with a keyboard... by Locklin · · Score: 5, Insightful

      The bandwidth of ten fingers and 104 keys is far greater than a two-dimensional vector and a couple buttons.

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    3. Re:Must be controlled with a keyboard... by geekoid · · Score: 2, Interesting

      "On any OS that is worth anything"

      Scotsman's fallacy.

      You're correct in that using a key board should be faster, and that in every current mainstream OS it is faster. But that doesn't excuse your logical fallacy.

      I had to rewrite a system that the original programmer made completely mouse driven.
      Here's this kicker: It was a system specifically for data entry, but you could not tab to the next entry area.

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    4. Re:Must be controlled with a keyboard... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Mouse is faster. You just don't know it because it requires higher cognition and skews your perception of time.

      http://www.asktog.com/TOI/toi06KeyboardVMouse1.html

    5. Re:Must be controlled with a keyboard... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hmmm, the mouse is quicker than the keyboard, says the company selling mouse-driven systems, at a time when large amounts of the competition were selling keyboard driven systems.

    6. Re:Must be controlled with a keyboard... by imakemusic · · Score: 1

      Inefficient it may be but at least it was a real OS, if only a demo...

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    7. Re:Must be controlled with a keyboard... by imakemusic · · Score: 1

      in every current mainstream OS it is faster.

      Except for OSX. Unless I'm missing a trick, the keyboard short-cuts available in OSX are few and far between.

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    8. Re:Must be controlled with a keyboard... by shogun · · Score: 1

      Then why aren't most people playing FPSs with a keyboard?

    9. Re:Must be controlled with a keyboard... by imakemusic · · Score: 1

      Thanks for the article. It's a little dated, but hey, whatever...

      The thing is they are talking about searching for a command from scratch without knowing the short-cuts. Yes, it's going to take you longer to look up a keyboard short-cut than it is to look through the menu and click it but if you have a job - as many of us do - which involves using the same commands in a piece of software repeatedly then doing ctrl+c, ctrl+n, ctrl+v will be much quicker than edit>copy, file>new, edit>paste.

      Not that I have any empirical data to back this up...

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    10. Re:Must be controlled with a keyboard... by TheRaven64 · · Score: 2, Insightful
      Except that that article is complete nonsense:

      It takes two seconds to decide upon which special-function key to press

      I got that quote into this post by copying and pasting it here. I used command-c and command-v without thinking. It took far less than two seconds; about the same amount of time as it takes me to hit any other key on the keyboard. I don't decide which special-function key to press at all; I send high-level commands from my brain to my spine and it sorts it out. I don't think about typing letters either. I actually can't spell a number of words that I type regularly - I think the word and my muscle memory produces the finger movements required to enter them.

      Deciding among abstract symbols is a high-level cognitive function. Not only is this decision not boring, the user actually experiences amnesia! Real amnesia! The time-slice spent making the decision simply ceases to exist

      And there's the problem. I'm not thinking about symbols at all. I'm thinking about gestures. I produce a shape with my left hand and I get a cut, copy, or paste action. The human motor system is incredibly good at quickly generating gestures. It is linked to our ability to use tools, and the ones that weren't good at it died out well over ten thousand years ago.

      It's a question of familiarity, which makes me think his study group was skewed. It does take two seconds to think of a keystroke for an action that you don't use often and if you already have a hand on the mouse, or finger on the touchpad (a big if; when you're in the middle of text entry this is not the case), then it may take you less time to find a menu item than to think of the shortcut.

      This is also highly dependent on Fitts' Law, because the time taken for finding menu items is dependent on the size of the screen. That article is from 1989, so probably refers to a study performed with the original Macintosh, with its 9" monitor. You will get very different results if you compare a modern OS X system and a 23" monitor.

      It does make one important point though: users are really terrible at estimating what is fast. Unfamiliar keyboard actions really are not as fast as you think they are (and here have been several more recent studies showing this) and mouse actions are faster than you might believe.

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    11. Re:Must be controlled with a keyboard... by nine-times · · Score: 3, Insightful

      There are other problems: their #1 problem is "Left long enough, a computer becomes intelligent", citing Terminator and Star Trek: The Motion Picture.

      However, the computers weren't just "left long enough" in either movie. In Terminator, SkyNet was an AI designed by the military to have intelligence. The surprise wasn't that it became intelligent, but that it decided to kill everyone. In Star Trek, Voyager was discovered by an alien race of intelligent robots (or something like that) who repaired and upgraded Voyager.

    12. Re:Must be controlled with a keyboard... by DeadDecoy · · Score: 1

      Because it's fun. Carmack just programs a quake AI to kick your ass. It's a bit more time consuming to setup, but far less repetative.

    13. Re:Must be controlled with a keyboard... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Most people actually did 15 years ago.

    14. Re:Must be controlled with a keyboard... by gumbi+west · · Score: 1

      You are missing many, may tricks. I almost never take my hands of the KB when using OS X. Here are two to start you with: command tab switches applications, command tilde switches windows within an app. But in the end I think he was saying that the shell is always a faster way to do things, and this is as true in OS X as it is in any *nix.

    15. Re:Must be controlled with a keyboard... by harl · · Score: 1

      Because you don't need input bandwidth in a FPS you need input precision or variability or what ever you want to call it.

      With a keyboard you can only turn or not turn.
      With a mouse you can not turn, turn quickly, turn medium, turn fast, etc.

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    16. Re:Must be controlled with a keyboard... by cbackas · · Score: 1

      What you're probably missing (besides possibly knowledge of the keys themselves) is that you need to go to System Preferences->Keyboard, and turn on "Full Keyboard Access". (IIRC, Control F7 toggles this setting by default) This is one of the first things I do on any new user account of mine on an OSX system. This allows tab-focus between UI elements in a window same as anywhere else, among other things. With that on, I can't think of much that can't be done from the keyboard alone. Perhaps physically resizing/repositioning a window...

      That same System Preference panel has a "Keyboard Shortcuts" tab (might even be the same tab that has the Full Keyboard Access control) that tell you the keyboard shortcuts currently assigned to various system functions (and allows editing them), and then has an "Application Keyboard Shortcuts" section at the bottom which allows you do define both Global and Per-App keyboard shortcut sequences for named Menu Items.

    17. Re:Must be controlled with a keyboard... by gumbi+west · · Score: 1

      As of 10.5 (earlier?) this can not be turned off that I can see in keyboard OR using the hot keys you suggest. I can always hit command-space to open spotlight and command tab to open the application browser.

    18. Re:Must be controlled with a keyboard... by cbackas · · Score: 1

      Those are different things than the specific setting I was talking about. I checked since I wrote it, though the label (on 10.5 at least) is "Full Keyboard Access", the setting is "Text boxes and lists only" or "All controls", and it is indeed toggled by Control-F7. I do think that the OTHER shortcuts, such as Spotlight as you mention, are always on regardless however.

      It also appears that there's a default-on setting called "Full Keyboard Access" that can only be toggled by Ctrl-F1 as far as I can see. That seems to enable/disable keyboard controls like "Move focus to the menu bar" and "Move focus to the Dock"

      But the setting I was originally referring to controls the tab-stops in dialogs (And actually, on web forms in Safari). The default is historically more "Mac-like", but I personally greatly prefer "All controls"

    19. Re:Must be controlled with a keyboard... by Necreia · · Score: 1

      The bandwidth of ten fingers and 104 keys is far greater than a two-dimensional vector and a button.

      Fixed. Mac is used an awful lot.

    20. Re:Must be controlled with a keyboard... by jb_nizet · · Score: 1

      That's nothing : in an episode of NCIS, they have to crack a remote system (or prevent a cracker for cracking their own system, I don't remember), so they employ the usual technique : they type very fast on the keyboard.
      But since they're really in a hurry, they enhance this well-known technique : Abby and Mc Gee both type, at the same time, very fast, on the same keyboard. Go beat that!

    21. Re:Must be controlled with a keyboard... by roju · · Score: 1

      System Preferences\Keyboard\Keyboard Shortcuts. You can bind shortcuts to any menu command in any application.

    22. Re:Must be controlled with a keyboard... by chickenarise · · Score: 1

      Because you don't need that much bandwidth to play an FPS, duh.

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    23. Re:Must be controlled with a keyboard... by Nyckname · · Score: 1

      It works better than speaking into the mouse.

    24. Re:Must be controlled with a keyboard... by Celarent+Darii · · Score: 1

      System Preferences ---> Keyboard ----> Keyboard Shortcuts

      You can put shortcuts on just about anything. Even make an applescript and give it a shortcut. Look in the online help for more info - you can even get rid of your mouse by turning on full keyboard access.

    25. Re:Must be controlled with a keyboard... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      depends on what you're doing.

      try playing quake with the keyboard, see how far you get.

    26. Re:Must be controlled with a keyboard... by RichardJenkins · · Score: 1

      Yep, mice are pretty intuitive but relatively inefficient; they only allow you to express and x,y position and the state of a few buttons.

      Controlling a modern OS via the keyboard is quite unintuitive, but you can be much more expressive, and so do things more efficiently.

    27. Re:Must be controlled with a keyboard... by Bugamn · · Score: 1

      What do you use to play FPSs? Joysticks? And you really believe it's better?

    28. Re:Must be controlled with a keyboard... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      and a couple buttons.

      A couple of buttons? Let me introduce you to the Warmouse. 18 buttons, an analog joystick and a scroll wheel. On a mouse.

      Just sit back and take it in.

    29. Re:Must be controlled with a keyboard... by IICV · · Score: 1

      I actually can't spell a number of words that I type regularly - I think the word and my muscle memory produces the finger movements required to enter them.

      Actually, that's just AutoCorrect coming back to bite you in the ass. I can't even spell "receive" properly any more, because the spelling gets corrected silently.

    30. Re:Must be controlled with a keyboard... by CrazeeCracker · · Score: 1

      Except for OSX. Unless I'm missing a trick, the keyboard short-cuts available in OSX are few and far between.

      As a Mac user, I have to disagree. Under System Preferences > Keyboard > Keyboard Shortcuts > '+' symbol, you can specify any menu item from any application as a keyboard shortcut. Add to that the Full Keyboard Access feature on the same page, and you never have to use your mouse with OS X again, ever, unless you want to.

      Also, I highly recommend the free Quicksilver background application, which is a real time-saver. It's a keyboard-based application launcher with a few really neat advanced features.

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    31. Re:Must be controlled with a keyboard... by TheRaven64 · · Score: 1

      I never use autocorrect. It has a nasty habit of making embarrassing 'corrections'. It's actually not particularly uncommon to be unable to spell words that you write. A lot of people who write a lot are the same way with handwriting; ask them a difficult spelling and they won't be able to tell you, but they can write down the correct spelling.

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    32. Re:Must be controlled with a keyboard... by gumbi+west · · Score: 1

      Oh, I see, I had been wishing for that, I'm glad I've finally had it pointed out to me. Thanks!

    33. Re:Must be controlled with a keyboard... by mjwx · · Score: 1

      However, the computers weren't just "left long enough" in either movie. In Terminator, SkyNet was an AI designed by the military to have intelligence.

      To be pedantic, Skynet was not made self aware, skynet became self aware on its own. To quote:

      Terminator: The system originally went online on August 4th 1997. Human decisions were removed from strategic defence. Skynet began to learn at a geometric rate. It originally became self-aware at 2:14 am Eastern Time on August 29th, 1997.

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    34. Re:Must be controlled with a keyboard... by nine-times · · Score: 1

      That it became self-aware does not mean that it wasn't designed to be intelligent. It was designed to be intelligent. It was designed to make decisions and think for itself.

    35. Re:Must be controlled with a keyboard... by mjwx · · Score: 1

      That it became self-aware does not mean that it wasn't designed to be intelligent. It was designed to be intelligent. It was designed to make decisions and think for itself.

      I said I was being pedantic, I never claimed it made sense.

      If terminator was realistic, all humans would have died in the radioactive fallout and there's be no need for Terminators.

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    36. Re:Must be controlled with a keyboard... by imakemusic · · Score: 1

      This allows tab-focus between UI elements in a window same as anywhere else, among other things.

      Thanks. That was my main issue. To be fair I haven't really looked that hard but coming from windows OS X just seems totally mouse orientated. Thanks for pointing me in the right direction!

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    37. Re:Must be controlled with a keyboard... by penguinchris · · Score: 1

      Actually, there are keyboard shortcuts for almost everything in OS X, including stuff you weren't expecting (meaning a lot you'll probably never need to use) - but they aren't well documented officially, in my experience.

      If you look around the internet trying to figure out how to do stuff in OS X - mostly simple stuff, I mean - you'll see a lot of answers from people telling you to use the keyboard shortcut. How they figured it out, who knows; I think the keyboard shortcuts are only passed on through message boards.

      I don't tend to remember keyboard shortcuts very well so I don't use them often, but a few of them have really increased the speed at which I can get around the system, and there are many things that you can *only* do through keyboard shortcuts. Having to look them up each time because you forgot doesn't make it more efficient, of course :)

    38. Re:Must be controlled with a keyboard... by imakemusic · · Score: 1

      The bit that got me was dialog boxes. In windows certain letters get underlined and you can use the keyboard to press these buttons, or if this doesn't work you can tab through the options. In OSX (snow leopard, default settings) you can press enter or escape and that's about it.

      There are some places where it is better than windows in this respect though. For example being able to do cmd+N for a new finder window is brilliant!

      (now someone's gonna chime in and say you can do that for windows, too...)

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    39. Re:Must be controlled with a keyboard... by Dracolytch · · Score: 1

      Interestingly enough, that is the EXACT philosophy I took when I added a command console to a software modeling tool I'm writing.

      Turns out, I'm WAY faster at modeling stuff this way then by pointing & clicking all day.

      ~D

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    40. Re:Must be controlled with a keyboard... by plan10 · · Score: 1

      High throughput doesn't imply high random seek times.

      In fact, a device with high sequential throughput will often suffer from poor random access performance.

    41. Re:Must be controlled with a keyboard... by Blakey+Rat · · Score: 1

      Well, a correct GUI has keyboard shortcuts for everything of consequence, so maybe you just really suck at writing a GUI.

      Once you learn all the keyboard shortcuts in, for example, Visual Studio you can work just as fast as somebody using EMACs or VI. Admittedly, the shortcuts are slightly harder to learn, but then again, unlike those other editors they aren't *required*.

    42. Re:Must be controlled with a keyboard... by clone53421 · · Score: 1

      Bandwidth and precision are the same thing. The only difference is that one is digital and the other is analog, but you can convert from analog to digital easily and your precision becomes bandwidth and you can convert back again and bandwidth becomes precision again. They are identical concepts in their respective realms (digital and analog).

      The problem is that we’re trying to compare a digital input device (bandwidth) to an analog input device (precision) for an analog input (rate of turn) using a device that’s relatively slow and bad at converting an analog value to a digital one (human brain). If you can press multiple keys at once (and most games allow it) then the keyboard represents an enormous amount of bandwidth, but for actual movement it’s usually much easier to just move the physical mouse around than to try to convert that into a digital representation that could be easily and efficiently entered on the keyboard.

      The other problem is that many applications require movements as their input (menus & controls) when digital forms of input could be faster and more efficient (keyboard shortcuts) if the developers weren’t so fixated on a motion-based user interface.

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    43. Re:Must be controlled with a keyboard... by Dracolytch · · Score: 1

      Uh... Who said I didn't have keyboard shortcuts? I don't have an exhaustive highly-configurable shortcut engine, and keyboard shortcuts are inappropriate for some tasks in the application ("Create a one-to-many containment relationship between entity a and entity b" isn't terribly shortcut friendly), I got the core functionality covered.

      VS, EMACS and VI are also keyboard-centric development environments. I'm developing a language-agnostic modeling tool with an interface more akin to Visio or NClass, which are notoriously mouse-centric/slow.

      Shortcuts in ProtoModel are more like shortcuts in Photoshop: Yes, they exist, and they do speed things up, but there is a practical barrier to how they can be used. The console gets around that via a faster-than-mouse means for skilled typists (as almost all programmers are).

      ~D

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    44. Re:Must be controlled with a keyboard... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, it's not really the No True Scotsman fallacy if one were to accept that "keyboard usability" might be a strict criterion for "OS worth anything". It's arguable, for sure. The No True Scotsman fallacy would seem to depend on claiming that a somewhat arbitrary attribute (not being a sex maniac) is necessary for membership in a particular category (those of Scottish descent or nationality).

      Or, it might be the case that lack of keyboard usability affects the worth of an OS; it can't really be the case that sex-maniacship disqualifies someone from being born in Scotland.

    45. Re:Must be controlled with a keyboard... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The bandwidth of ten fingers and 104 keys is far greater than a two-dimensional vector and a couple buttons.

      Technically, I'd think the total bandwidth is lower, you just have much more precision about exactly what you put in the pipe.

    46. Re:Must be controlled with a keyboard... by MikeBabcock · · Score: 1

      That comment irk'd me too. I've seen what the author's talking about, where people use a keyboard to change the selection on-screen in a video terminal (NCIS) or the like, but for the most part I use only a keyboard when computing too.

      I run Linux sure, but even on Windows machines I used before, I had no problem computing primarily with a keyboard and shortcuts for a long time.

      Some things are obviously better with a mouse, but a lot of things done slowly with a mouse are done much more easily with keyboard shortcuts and typed commands. Maybe he should talk to someone who uses AutoCAD professionally.

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  17. They forgot the beeping interfaces by drcagn · · Score: 5, Insightful

    That's one thing that always drives me nuts when I'm watching computers being used on TV or in the movies... EVERY user interface element BEEPS. Text will scroll on the screen (no idea why it won't just show all at once) and as the computer renders each and every single character, it lets out a beep. That sort of machine would drive me nuts after about 3 minutes of use.

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    1. Re:They forgot the beeping interfaces by hitmark · · Score: 1

      suspense, pure and simple.

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    2. Re:They forgot the beeping interfaces by Monkeedude1212 · · Score: 2, Funny

      Try booting up Windows ME on an old Gateway. If you don't get blue screens and beeps every 3 minutes you've managed more than I ever could.

    3. Re:They forgot the beeping interfaces by fbjon · · Score: 1

      I've had a computer that gave a high-pitched chirping noise from some electronic component whenever something on the screen moved; text, window, mouse cursor or otherwise.

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    4. Re:They forgot the beeping interfaces by Abstrackt · · Score: 5, Interesting

      You reminded me of a great application: Nullsoft Beep. Using Excitement-Generation Technology(tm), it makes your computer sound like they do in the movies!

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    5. Re:They forgot the beeping interfaces by darkitecture · · Score: 1

      That's one thing that always drives me nuts when I'm watching computers being used on TV or in the movies... EVERY user interface element BEEPS. Text will scroll on the screen (no idea why it won't just show all at once) and as the computer renders each and every single character, it lets out a beep. That sort of machine would drive me nuts after about 3 minutes of use.

      John Badham (director of WarGames) explains it quite well on the director's commentary for WarGames - Movie studio executives insist that when something happens on-screen, it must have an associated sound so the audience knows something is happening. Everyone knows a computer doesn't beep every time you press a key. But just like most people require tactile feedback when typing for optimum performance (one of the multitude of reasons Star Trek's LCARS input interface will never truly be embraced in reality), studios insist the audience needs aural feedback when something is happening.

    6. Re:They forgot the beeping interfaces by funkify · · Score: 1

      Mod parent up. I was going to mention this but he beat me to it. Nullsoft beep + your PC = instant Hollywood computing.

    7. Re:They forgot the beeping interfaces by dkf · · Score: 1

      most people require tactile feedback when typing for optimum performance (one of the multitude of reasons Star Trek's LCARS input interface will never truly be embraced in reality)

      I believe that there are a number of research groups working on how to make a haptic surface, so that you'll be able to feel that on-screen button move when you press it with your finger.

      I hesitate to speculate what the porn industry would use it for.

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    8. Re:They forgot the beeping interfaces by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes! The constant beeping in shows and movies drives me insane!

      Also, related to the beeping, it's necessary for a computer to display every bit of data that it can while performing a search. Again, on CSI, it's required that the computer show EVERY SINGLE FINGERPRINT IN THE DATABASE ON SCREEN as it's searching, make a noise for each image it shows, and then beep like a digital watch when it's finished while showing the results in flashing text. Who the hell uses flashing text to do anything? Even if it's some server in a machine room buried in a bunker 10 miles below a mountain, it still has to show the progress of a search on an attached monitor which someone forgot to turn off.

      Also, they forgot to mention the MCP as a computer turned sentient after being left to it's own devices.

    9. Re:They forgot the beeping interfaces by Jeng · · Score: 1

      I hesitate to speculate what the porn industry would use it for.

      Speculate away and get working on the patent, make millions.

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    10. Re:They forgot the beeping interfaces by delinear · · Score: 1

      But just like most people require tactile feedback when typing for optimum performance (one of the multitude of reasons Star Trek's LCARS input interface will never truly be embraced in reality), studios insist the audience needs aural feedback when something is happening.

      You missed the key part, which is that it's easier (read: cheaper) to fill that void with meaningless computer beeps that it is with witty or thought provoking dialogue. The truth is, we all know using computers isn't, of itself, particularly exciting (it's what you use them for that's exciting, and often that's not something that conveys well to people watching), so why do they insist on using them so much! We don't see the main protagonist sit down and start doing his tax returns at a key point (with or without annoying pencil scratching sound effects overlaid) for much the same reason.

    11. Re:They forgot the beeping interfaces by BlindSpot · · Score: 1

      EVERY user interface element BEEPS.

      My first computer was an Atari 400. Beeped every time I typed a key.

      You get used to it. It was weird changing to something without it actually.

    12. Re:They forgot the beeping interfaces by Orphaze · · Score: 1

      Awesome, it actually runs on Win7 x64. Now my computing experience is complete.

    13. Re:They forgot the beeping interfaces by clone53421 · · Score: 1

      Whenever that’s happened to me it indicated that the system was truly hung and the only things still functioning were certain low-level hardware interrupts... i.e. the mouse. Time for a hard reset.

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  18. Cracked.com by HavePatience · · Score: 4, Informative

    Isn't this a rip off of a Cracked.com article of the same name? http://www.cracked.com/article_15229_5-things-hollywood-thinks-computers-can-do_p3.html Oh, I'm sorry, it's 5 vs 10. That makes it okay, right?

    1. Re:Cracked.com by iamhassi · · Score: 1

      Same title, different list. Guess someone could combine both and make a top 15

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    2. Re:Cracked.com by The+Grim+Reefer2 · · Score: 1

      Isn't this a rip off of a Cracked.com article of the same name?

      http://www.cracked.com/article_15229_5-things-hollywood-thinks-computers-can-do_p3.html

      Oh, I'm sorry, it's 5 vs 10. That makes it okay, right?

      Is it? Every time I try to go to page 4 or 5 I somehow get redirected back to page one. So it's only showing 5 things for me.

    3. Re:Cracked.com by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Thinking that an article these days is going to be completely unique on the Internet is pretty foolhardy.

    4. Re:Cracked.com by corbettw · · Score: 1

      Apparently one of the things computers can do is rip off other sites for stupid filler stories.

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    5. Re:Cracked.com by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Isn't this a rip off of a Cracked.com article of the same name? http://www.cracked.com/article_15229_5-things-hollywood-thinks-computers-can-do_p3.html [cracked.com] Oh, I'm sorry, it's 5 vs 10. That makes it okay, right?

      One, and only one, of the following is true:

      1. "Here are some things that computers can do on TV but not in real life" is an idea of such profound insight that it could not possibly have occurred to more than one person independently.

      2. You're an idiot.

    6. Re:Cracked.com by DarthVain · · Score: 1

      Ya this article reminded me of the Independence Day one in the Cracked list.

      Jeff Goldblum how I hate you. The only thing that makes it even worse and somewhat funny is the fact they they used Macs.

      I mean my Sisters Mac isn't freakin' compatible with my PC, let alone some hive mother ship computer made by aliens from some distant part of the universe.

    7. Re:Cracked.com by Frigo · · Score: 0

      Hey I remember that movie. The hacker is actually the author of a wildly successful firewall and/or antivirus software that is essentially a nice big trojan and is used in hospitals, police stations and other critical places.

      In fact, it is realistic enough to be scary.

    8. Re:Cracked.com by sco08y · · Score: 1

      Maybe we need a Top 10 Articles that IT Rags Rehash Endlessly...

  19. copying files deletes the original by petes_PoV · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Whether its the EMH or just a mundane collection of data. Once it's been copied from its original place the orginal has gone.

    However, if DRM really gets a grip, this could become fact not fiction.

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    politicians are like babies' nappies: they should both be changed regularly and for the same reasons
    1. Re:copying files deletes the original by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      rm /bin/cp && ln /bin/mv /bin/cp

    2. Re:copying files deletes the original by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Whether its the EMH or just a mundane collection of data. Once it's been copied from its original place the orginal has gone.

      So *this* is where we got the notion that piracy==theft from!

    3. Re:copying files deletes the original by cpotoso · · Score: 1

      Well, if the EMH were a bunch of qbits, then this would be true. However, we know it is not true because in some episode the EMH was left in some godforsaken planet and Voyager still managed to reload it from a backup...

    4. Re:copying files deletes the original by Locklin · · Score: 0

      mv is just a convenience program that copies and then deletes in the first place.

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      "Knowledge is the only instrument of production that is not subject to diminishing returns" -Journal of Political Econom
    5. Re:copying files deletes the original by L4t3r4lu5 · · Score: 1

      Calling an EMH a "mundane collection of data" is just rude! Hell, I know of one which enjoys classical music, and has wonderful bedside manner...

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    6. Re:copying files deletes the original by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      When I move things around the same file system with mv it is done instantly(I hit enter and I get my prompt back). When I move things between file systems (or copy the file), it takes time(hit enter, wait for my prompt to come back).

      So no, mv is not copy then deleting when running stuff around the same file system.
      (Maybe calling mv "rename" when it is on the same file system might be a better thought, and then cp & rm when on separate file systems)

    7. Re:copying files deletes the original by petes_PoV · · Score: 1

      Calling an EMH a "mundane collection of data"

      did someone forget to read the OR separating those two phrases?

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      politicians are like babies' nappies: they should both be changed regularly and for the same reasons
    8. Re:copying files deletes the original by Culture20 · · Score: 1

      mv (within a filesystem) changes inodes on the filesystem, but leaves the data in place on the drive. No copy, no delete. Your statement may be correct in between filesystems or on Windows boxen.

    9. Re:copying files deletes the original by cgenman · · Score: 1

      Also notice that nobody ever backs anything up. "The hackers stole our plans for this zillion dollar airplane. We never made a backup, so we'd better steal the one and only copy of this data back from them."

    10. Re:copying files deletes the original by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Quantum. It's something to do with quantum.

    11. Re:copying files deletes the original by Blakey+Rat · · Score: 1

      I always wondered why in the first Star Wars, they couldn't just *transmit* (using whatever faster-than-light tech they normally use for communication) before the Death Star plans before the Empire got wind of their escape.

      Although, I guess that would be easy to explain-away as the plans being super-huge files and the Empire chasing them as soon as they took off.

    12. Re:copying files deletes the original by Just+Some+Guy · · Score: 1

      Whether its the EMH or just a mundane collection of data. Once it's been copied from its original place the orginal has gone.

      Never owned anything by Iomega, huh?

      --
      Dewey, what part of this looks like authorities should be involved?
    13. Re:copying files deletes the original by clone53421 · · Score: 1

      Nope, Windows also moves files within the same filesystem without touching the actual file on the disk. It’s just a rename to a different path.

      That’s the only sensible way to do it... and it pisses me off to no end that they cannot also seem to get it right on certain other operations that should be a move but instead make a copy (downloads in Internet Explorer terminate with a “Copying” dialog, as do drag-and-drop from an application such as WinRAR or 7Zip into Windows Explorer... which I think is the fault of Windows’ implementation of drag-and-drop, not the application).

      Moving from one filesystem to another, of course, requires a copy-and-delete operation no matter what system you’re running.

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      Alexander Peter Kristopeit bought his basement from his mommy for one dollar.
    14. Re:copying files deletes the original by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Too bad you don't have the degrees or hands on programming know how to do it yourself though, eh, complainer? All you do is bitch, because you're too much of a "helpless henry wannabe" to get the job done yourself by writing your own programs to do it clone53421.

    15. Re:copying files deletes the original by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      MOV DX, 010C
      MOV AH, 09
      INT 21
      MOV AH, 4C
      INT 21
      ADD [BX+SI+65], CH
      JNS 0130
      DB 61
      JO 017E
      CS:
      CS:
      CS:
      AND [BP+75], AH
      DB 63, 6B
      AND [BX+66], CH
      DB 66
      AND AL, 7F

    16. Re:copying files deletes the original by clone53421 · · Score: 1

      LOL, that’s awesome. It looks just like something I could have written myself.

      --
      Alexander Peter Kristopeit bought his basement from his mommy for one dollar.
  20. I'm still waiting... by stakovahflow · · Score: 1

    To get my VR glasses & navigate the virtual file system on my very own Gibson super computer. I'll look for oil and stuff with it... Good times!

    --
    Holy happy hippy crap!
    1. Re:I'm still waiting... by stakovahflow · · Score: 1

      To get my VR glasses & navigate the 3D virtual file system on my very own Gibson super computer. I'll look for oil and stuff with it... Good times!

      --
      Holy happy hippy crap!
    2. Re:I'm still waiting... by Vectormatic · · Score: 1

      You better watch it with the nested posts, your stack might overflow

      *ba-dum ching*

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    3. Re:I'm still waiting... by Lumpy · · Score: 1

      The "glasses" he had in the end sequence were real. It was a led based text display. Steve Mann and Thad Starner both used them for wearable computer research in the 90's

      Also they never had a "virtual 3d" anything. those sequences were what he was seeing in the data on the screen.

      P.S. buy the script, theres a lot more detail in it than what was shot.

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      Do not look at laser with remaining good eye.
    4. Re:I'm still waiting... by delinear · · Score: 1

      The "glasses" he had in the end sequence were real. It was a led based text display. Steve Mann and Thad Starner both used them for wearable computer research in the 90's

      Also they never had a "virtual 3d" anything. those sequences were what he was seeing in the data on the screen.

      P.S. buy the script, theres a lot more detail in it than what was shot.

      There is, however, a scene in which Plague is using a VR headset and appears to be receiving haptic feedback (multiple shots to the body by the look of it) despite wearing no kit on the body. Detailed script or not, that's pretty unforgivable...

    5. Re:I'm still waiting... by Lumpy · · Score: 1

      That's an actual arcade game from the time. http://www.arcade-history.com/?n=dactyl-nightmare&page=detail&id=12493

      Many people that played that would goof like that when playing to make people watching think it was more that it really was.

      That game actually sucked horribly, gave you headaches, and many nausea. Plus coat about $5.00 a play at most arcades.

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      Do not look at laser with remaining good eye.
    6. Re:I'm still waiting... by moortak · · Score: 1

      Or they were showing him being really into the game and acting like a retard. We have all seen people twist (non motion sensitive) controllers.

      --
      Xavier Rabourdin for president 2012
  21. Slashdotted already :( by GordonCopestake · · Score: 1

    Anyone got a mirror?

    1. Re:Slashdotted already :( by OzPeter · · Score: 4, Funny

      Anyone got a mirror?

      Believe me .. in this case the slashdotting is a benefit and not a drawback

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    2. Re:Slashdotted already :( by frisket · · Score: 1
      Forbidden

      You don't have permission to access /general/278200/top-10-things-hollywood-thinks-computers-can-do/5 on this server.
      Apache Server at dev.uk.expertreviews.denint.co.uk Port 80

      Sigh

  22. My wish by winterchapo · · Score: 1

    How about all the fancy GUI Hollywood shows when someone is coding/hacking? I want them to show someone using VI.

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    Humor must not professedly teach and it must not professedly preach, but it must do both if it would live forever. -Mark
    1. Re:My wish by Sir_Lewk · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Oh but don't you know? In real life nobody uses keyboards!

      This article is totally a joke all around. The only difference between these guys, and the Hollywood guys, is that the hollywood guys are going to make a lot more money while demonstrating their lack of computer knowledge.

      --
      "linux is just DOS with a UNIX like syntax" -- Galactic Dominator (944134)
    2. Re:My wish by Locklin · · Score: 1

      It seems that lately, "hackers" and other "computer savvy" Hollywood characters use interfaces full of text (often rapidly scrolling). Perhaps it's the influence of the Matrix, but it's closer to the real thing than flying through a 3D representation of a hard drive.

      --
      "Knowledge is the only instrument of production that is not subject to diminishing returns" -Journal of Political Econom
    3. Re:My wish by Bambi+Dee · · Score: 1
    4. Re:My wish by delinear · · Score: 1

      It's probably a combination of people being more computer aware these days (you can still put the ridiculous GUI in your movie, but don't expect people to take it seriously) combined with generally much better looking real-world GUIs meaning you don't have to bored your audience with a screen of mono-text. There are still plenty of crimes against computing in movies, but expect the real world and movie world experiences to get much closer as these trends continue - let's face it, it's not so long ago that if a movie had shown someone holding a live video conference using a pocket-sized, touch-screen, voice-activated computer, we'd have thought that was pretty unrealistic!

    5. Re:My wish by LynnwoodRooster · · Score: 1

      How about all the fancy GUI Hollywood shows when someone is coding/hacking? I want them to show someone using VI.

      I'm sorry, snuff films aren't allowed.

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    6. Re:My wish by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      Nonono, everyone uses keyboard. Just nobody uses a console or anything else where pressing a key would make any sense, or at least more sense than using a point and click input device.

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      We used to have a Bill of Rights. Now, with the rights gone, all we have left is the bill.
    7. Re:My wish by MisterZimbu · · Score: 1

      I was overjoyed to see a copy of Visual Studio running on Roy's monitor on an episode of The IT Crowd. He even uses the same color scheme I do!

  23. Computers? Big Deal... by RobotRunAmok · · Score: 5, Funny

    When John Wayne fired a gun, at least two Indians dropped instantly. *At least* two. You can keep those computers, I want to better understand the technology behind The Duke's bullets...

  24. V'Ger by AllyGreen · · Score: 4, Informative

    The V'ger reference at the end annoyed me. It was given life by other beings, it didn't just become sentient!

    1. Re:V'Ger by Gizzmonic · · Score: 1

      Was it more annoying than watching that borefest of a movie? I swear, nothing ever happens in that whole movie.

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      (-1, Raw and Uncut is the only way to read)
    2. Re:V'Ger by delinear · · Score: 2, Funny

      The V'ger reference at the end annoyed me. It was given life by other beings, it didn't just become sentient!

      Likewise the reference to Skynet - I think we can all assume they were trying to make a self-aware system. It's not like it was the OS in a vending machine and it got bored of counting quarters one day and started wondering if there was more to life. I can't, off the top of my head, think of any examples of an ordinary computer system developing self awareness independent of human interaction.

    3. Re:V'Ger by Blakey+Rat · · Score: 1

      I can't, off the top of my head, think of any examples of an ordinary computer system developing self awareness independent of human interaction.

      Colossus: The Forbin Project has one.

      Actually... maybe not, now that I think about it. In that movie, the computer was programmed to be "curious" in that it would seek out information it hadn't previously been told about... I could see an argument that that's almost the same thing as sentience.

      But in the movie it doesn't actually begin acting independently until it begins communicating to the Russian computer of similar capability.

  25. It is punished with a slashdot whooping now. by leuk_he · · Score: 1

    "The connection has timed out"
    "The server at www.expertreviews.co.uk is taking too long to respond."

    That will teach them to create split pages ;)

  26. Yet another rant on hollywood computers, huh? by mark-t · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Hollywood does not actually think computers can currently do nor do they think they ever will do these things.

    Hollywood does think is that having computers do such things in a story usually (not always, but usually) makes it easier or faster to tell the story the way it is intended, rather than getting bogged down in the real life technicalities that are actually involved that would bore almost anybody.

    The only real problem with this is that some people could be left thinking that computers do or can do some of these things. But that's more a case of those people not being able to tell fiction from reality, which has nothing to do with how Hollywood tells stories, it has to do with what sort of education and life experience a person has.

    1. Re:Yet another rant on hollywood computers, huh? by cgenman · · Score: 1

      Yes, but some of these things are painfully obvious if you have the slightest knowledge of how computers work. It's like having a character jump into a car in Los Angeles, and magically arriving in Tokyo an hour later. Or having someone pick up a guitar for the first time, and play it backwards to steal music from the souls of children. Penicillin is going to create a race of jetpack-wearing zombies to invade the earth for Stalin. It breaks immersion. We the audience should not know more about the subject than the writer. When people "play videogames" on-screen by jumping up and down, whooping, and twiddling their thumbs like a rabbit on crack, whatever plausibility the movie has built up until that point is suddenly gone.

      I know a lot of military people who feel that way when munitions, etc are talked about. And Hollywood has gotten much better about hiring military consultants in order to avoid painfully obvious gaffes. Yet when people say things like "I'll write a GUI in Visual Basic" to solve a crime in CSI, anybody who has actually worked in computers suddenly loses all interest in what they're saying. Zooming in to hundreds of times the original magnification and reading someone's nametag? Writing a virus on a macbook that takes down an alien warship? You might as well say that the tooth fairy opened a magic door. That would be easy, fast, and would make more sense.

    2. Re:Yet another rant on hollywood computers, huh? by Locke2005 · · Score: 1

      Yes, this is a very nerd-centric view of the world, although it is a fun game to play. Do you think doctors feel that Hollywood accurately portrays medicine? Do you think law enforcement officers think that Hollywood correctly portrays cops? Do you think the attractiveness of actors accurately portrays a random cross section of the population? Do you think prostitutes in real life are really supermodel beautiful, intelligent, and with hearts of gold? I think if you look closely enough at how ANYTHING is portrayed in movies, you'll find lots of things that someone intimately familiar with that area would find unrealistic. Part of this in intentional -- movies are a visual medium, therefore visual effects are deliberately made unrealistic for visual impact. For example, do you believe people getting hit with bullets really get knocked of there feet and carried several feet backwards by the impact of the bullet? By simple physics, the force of the bullet would have to have the same impact on the shooter, who is depicted as calmly shooting away with one hand and no kickback at all! It's called "artistic license", and it makes watching movies more fun... give it a rest.

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      I've abandoned my search for truth; now I'm just looking for some useful delusions.
    3. Re:Yet another rant on hollywood computers, huh? by da_matta · · Score: 5, Funny

      Imagine the scene:
      Our heroine has snuck into the villains office and starts to hack into the computer to find evidence of the crime. After a some furious minutes of password guessing and file browsing, she finds the incriminating file! Then, just as she prints the file, there is an error of print failure. Our hero starts a browser and starts to google for an updated driver. After a few misses, she finds one in the manufacturers Taiwanese website. But after installing the driver, the error still persists. She returns to Google and starts looking for other people with similar issues. After 20 minutes of searching she finds an obscure tip in the forums to disable PCL-emulation in the registry. After changing the setting she reboots the computer and we nervously wait for another 10 minutes for the login to complete and document to reopen.. It works! The document prints! Our heroin snatches the print and slips out of the side door just before the villain re-enters
      Now that's entertainment!

    4. Re:Yet another rant on hollywood computers, huh? by Glarimore · · Score: 1

      Hollywood does think is that having computers do such things in a story usually (not always, but usually) makes it easier or faster to tell the story the way it is intended, rather than getting bogged down in the real life technicalities that are actually involved that would bore almost anybody.

      Duh?

      Everyone here knows that -- but that doesn't mean it's not hilarious.

    5. Re:Yet another rant on hollywood computers, huh? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Indeed. After all, we've learned from movies that:
      1. A person can outrun a fireball after noticing it rushing towards them
      2. An explosion with lots of flames can throw a person 500' without injuring them
      3. Being hit with a bullet can throw a person through the air
      4. Shooting a car with a gun will cause it to explode instantly
      5. Driving a car off a cliff will cause it to explode instantly
      6. Crashing an airplane does not cause an instant explosion -- there is always enough time for someone to run out of the blast radius or at least pull off # 2.

      The confusing thing about the computer myths is that as technology advances, we could end up with more and more situations where the computer CAN do some of these things in s specific situation.

    6. Re:Yet another rant on hollywood computers, huh? by izomiac · · Score: 1

      This approach was well and good back when computers were rare, mysterious items that most people equated to magic. Nowadays, most people carry two or more on their person at all times and a good chunk of the population uses them for hours-on-end at their job.

      Not having a normal car fly isn't "getting bogged down in the real life technicalities", it's setting the story in a realistic world. OTOH, crappy stories seem to be a dime-a-dozen anymore, with the plot resolved almost instantly by breaking the established rules of the world in which the story is told. Apparently it's quite difficult for modern story-tellers to come up with a non-predictable ending without making the characters do the impossible.

    7. Re:Yet another rant on hollywood computers, huh? by holdenholden · · Score: 1

      The only real problem with this is that some people could be left thinking that computers do or can do some of these things. But that's more a case of those people not being able to tell fiction from reality, which has nothing to do with how Hollywood tells stories, it has to do with what sort of education and life experience a person has.

      In real life these people are called "judge", "senator", "congressman", and they are creating laws based on their misunderstanding of how computers work. So the Internet is a "series of tubes" and if you "send an Internet" to your staff and they do not receive it until the next day, it is because it got caught behind somebody's movie download.

    8. Re:Yet another rant on hollywood computers, huh? by Just+Some+Guy · · Score: 1

      Hollywood does think is that having computers do such things in a story usually (not always, but usually) makes it easier or faster to tell the story the way it is intended, rather than getting bogged down in the real life technicalities that are actually involved that would bore almost anybody.

      I get that, really, but computing is a lot different today than it was 20 years ago. Whereas only us total geeks used to own computers, your average developed country resident now owns several (counting cellphones and other smart gadgets). Entertainment requires a willing suspension of disbelief, and when a movie virus infects a refrigerator and makes it start launching soda cans at the protagonist, all but the dumbest viewers know that they're seeing something that can't really happen. You also have to consider demographics: if a movie features a lot of computer shots, isn't it reasonably likely that more than the expected number of geeks will want to see it? Why not make the movie enjoyable for them, too?

      I'm not saying that Hollywood needs so show someone running "make menuconfig" for 10 minutes, but I think it's reasonable to expect them to be at least remotely plausible these days.

      --
      Dewey, what part of this looks like authorities should be involved?
    9. Re:Yet another rant on hollywood computers, huh? by Lord+Kano · · Score: 1

      I don't buy it. Sometimes car chase scenes are needed to drive the story. No one has a car that can drive up walls(Daywatch notwithstanding). No one EVER drives a Cobalt across a lake to get away from the police. Wouldn't it be great if some obscure doctor came up with a cure for AIDS just in time to cure Jenny in Forrest Gump... But they didn't do that either. Why? Because it's clearly moronic to do such a thing in a film. There's the whole willful suspension of disbelief thing, but there are limits to what we can be expected to let slide.

      If the authentic method doesn't fit into the story, you truncate it. It's nonsensical to throw a bunch of technical jargon together and hope that something useful results. "Hey, did you download the Wifi yet? Why not? I told you that I needed to myspace.com the RAMs on the hard drive before I CD-ROM that new optical mouse."

      LK

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    10. Re:Yet another rant on hollywood computers, huh? by Scrameustache · · Score: 1

      The only real problem with this is that some people could be left thinking that computers do or can do some of these things. But that's more a case of those people not being able to tell fiction from reality, which has nothing to do with how Hollywood tells stories, it has to do with what sort of education and life experience a person has.

      Instead of FBI warnings they should have a disclaimer: "Events and depictions in this motion picture may not accurately represent reality."

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      You can't take the sky from me...

    11. Re:Yet another rant on hollywood computers, huh? by cffrost · · Score: 1

      Hollywood [thinks] having computers do such things in a story usually [...] makes it easier or faster to tell the story the way it is intended [...]

      Unfortunately, it also makes it easier and/or faster to lose suspension of disbelief.

      --
      Thank you, Edward Snowden.

      "Arguments from authority are worthless." —Carl Sagan
    12. Re:Yet another rant on hollywood computers, huh? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I might actually enjoy watching this. But to make it work, one would have to montage or otherwise compress the 20 minutes of searching to something more reasonable for an average adhd audience... maybe 90 seconds? Perhaps establish a time frame for the villain's return that the heroine knows, and several tense closeups of an on screen clock.

      Bonus points if that clock is shown to be OFF compared to a wall-clock, and the villain returns based upon the wall-clock's time frame to confront our heroine just as the printer starts through its horribly long and LOUD pre-print head cleaning cycle :)

    13. Re:Yet another rant on hollywood computers, huh? by slimjim8094 · · Score: 1

      Huh. My printer's working, for the first time in years. Not even that neighborhood kid could fix it.

      WE MUST HAVE A NERDSPY!!

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    14. Re:Yet another rant on hollywood computers, huh? by mjwx · · Score: 1

      Our heroine has snuck into the villains office and starts to hack into the computer to find evidence of the crime. After using the password on the post it note stuck to the monitor, copied the folder market "PRIVATE Evil world domination plan" and "pr0n" off the desktop to the flash left in the PC. Re-arranged all the icon's into a penis shape and left.

      There fixed that for you.

      If you want realistic computer scenes in movies, I demand realistic computer users in movies

      --
      Calling someone a "hater" only means you can not rationally rebut their argument.
    15. Re:Yet another rant on hollywood computers, huh? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Don't forget, If she can google, she can attach the document on gmail too! Why print?

    16. Re:Yet another rant on hollywood computers, huh? by plan10 · · Score: 1

      Watch a medical show with doctors or legal shows with lawyers. Hell, thing of the cop shows and how reflective they are OF THE COPS.

      It's entertainment, and it plays to a certain expectation of how certain things functions.

      *Execptions made for the Wire/Oz etc.

    17. Re:Yet another rant on hollywood computers, huh? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They didn't have a cure for AIDS come up in Forrest Gump because it would void the point of the film whereby the liberal hippy has constant bad things happen to them while the conservative lad has constant good things happen to him, not because it would have been moronic.

  27. Heh. by Amarantine · · Score: 1

    I read page 1, then the site got slashdotted, appearantly. I can only imagine the fire alarms going off, server rooms on fire, sparks everywhere, chaos, mayhem... Much more interesting than a "an unexpected error has occured. contact your administrator." windows dialog on a machine.

    Well then, without the original article... I guess one thing that Hollywood thinks computers can do, is for servers to be ab-so-lu-tely quiet... In series such as 24 and CSI, I see rack after rack of Dell equipment, and they must be on because there are blue lights everywhere... Yet people can have normal conversations. Also, especially in CSI:NY, why are the server racks in the office rooms? Oh, and come to think of it... In CSI, where people are supposed to scrutinize every little detail, not to miss everything... Who thought it would be a good idea to work on transparent screens? I would imagine that all the distractions you see *through* the screen, would make you miss essential clues? Weird.

    1. Re:Heh. by Lumpy · · Score: 1

      I imagined a 24 style clock appearing on everyone's computer and Jack busting through the door screaming "WE are under attack people!" then he goes and tortures the server admins and then heads to the ISP to torture them in order to find out who is behind all this....

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      Do not look at laser with remaining good eye.
    2. Re:Heh. by lwsimon · · Score: 1

      The liberties they take with firearms, firearms law, ballistics, and forensics are too distracting for me to notice their computer issues.

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  28. Re:Computers? Big Deal... by Bugamn · · Score: 1

    That is easy. One indian was killed by the bullet, the other by his evil look.

  29. Ow by Das+Auge · · Score: 1

    Ow, ow, ow...my brain!

  30. storytelling by Speare · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It's just an aspect of storytelling. Most stories are about conflict and resolution between the characters, not the intellectual masturbation of what layer in the network stack is responsible for ack/response. Details like that don't matter. Struggling against time, intrigue, and moving the plot along: that's what matters.

    In the movie House of Flying Daggers, there's a swordfight scene where the two rivals finally clash in an epic struggle as the seasons change from summer to fall to winter all around them. Obviously nobody can fight for nine months. Obviously the sword choreography was on a completely different time scale to the environment they were in. Details like this matter if you're a weak-minded literalist. As pretty as the visuals were, it simply communicated a story like a line in a novel. It was a powerful visual metaphor.

    Next time the guys in CSI can scan a DNA sequence in a matter of minutes (or perhaps hours, as the camera briefly observes an analog clockface), don't nitpick the usual technical constraints of a process that usually takes days or weeks or months. Just insert "no technical challenge will stop this team." Even for geeks who enjoy the technical aspects, some details are like watching paint dry.

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    1. Re:storytelling by kenp2002 · · Score: 1

      Devil's Advocate Moment:

      Dear sir or madam, with your fantasy and suspension of disbelief.

      We are an enlightened people that live in reality and demand reality. Spare us this dreaming wishy-washy metaphor crap. Metaphors are for weak minded people that cling to imaginary friends and guns. If you cannot tell a story using reality you have no place in this world. Superheroes do not exist, there are no angels that will save you, most people who get shot, die.

      Now if you'll excuse me I have to plaster "Peace in our Time" posters across the downtown area.

      MOD Table
      (TROLL) You have no concept of sarcasm
      (INSIGHTFUL) If you see the double standard I am pointing out.
      (REDUNDANT) If you have me as a friend and follow the crap I spit out.
      (FUNNY) If you get the joke
      (INTERESTING) You need to get out more
      (FLAMEBAIT) You are one of the hypocrits I am making fun of
      (OVERATED) You're pissed I thought of this shtick first

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    2. Re:storytelling by 0123456 · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Next time the guys in CSI can scan a DNA sequence in a matter of minutes (or perhaps hours, as the camera briefly observes an analog clockface), don't nitpick the usual technical constraints of a process that usually takes days or weeks or months.

      Except this lack of 'nit-picking' has real-world consequences. At the weekend I was reading a story in a newspaper where some real-world forensics investigators were complaining that shows like CSI have given the public the impression that they are magicians to the extent that juries are acquitting people because the police don't have a CSI-style case... after all, since they know from CSI that DNA sequencing only takes a few seconds, why don't the police have DNA evidence to prove that this guy is guilty? And why can't they get perfect fingerprints from objects where fingerprints can't possibly exist? CSI can get fingerprints from anything.

    3. Re:storytelling by Culture20 · · Score: 1

      In the movie House of Flying Daggers, there's a swordfight scene where the two rivals finally clash in an epic struggle as the seasons change from summer to fall to winter all around them. Obviously nobody can fight for nine months. Obviously the sword choreography was on a completely different time scale to the environment they were in. Details like this matter if you're a weak-minded literalist. As pretty as the visuals were, it simply communicated a story like a line in a novel. It was a powerful visual metaphor.

      Thanks! The next time a cop expects a sword fight to last nine months just like he expects the lab to enhance a security camera image, I'll know what movie he's seen recently.

      Somehow, I think an analogy to the *mechanics* of swordplay would have been more appropriate since only a complete dullard would not grasp the nine-month metaphor slapping him in the face. However, there are a lot of people that probably think Errol Flynn fights are the height of fencing, just like regular folk believe these computer stories.

    4. Re:storytelling by Spatial · · Score: 3, Insightful

      That's a real-world consequence of poor critical thinking faculties. The cure is not to make fictional entertainment more accurate. People who think like that shouldn't even be put in a position where their decisions affect others.

    5. Re:storytelling by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Enhance. Enhance. Enhance.

    6. Re:storytelling by jhjjhj · · Score: 1

      When I watched the movie I was puzzled by how they manage to get that great snow scene. According to the "making of" on the dvd they were rushing to finish shooting the movie because winter was coming on. It was pretty clear to me that earlier scenes were shot in the fall. When the shot the scene it started to snow. simple as that.

    7. Re:storytelling by timholman · · Score: 1

      At the weekend I was reading a story in a newspaper where some real-world forensics investigators were complaining that shows like CSI have given the public the impression that they are magicians to the extent that juries are acquitting people because the police don't have a CSI-style case...

      The more things change, the more they stay the same.

      I can distinctly remember reading a magazine article about 30 years ago where prosecutors were complaining how "Perry Mason" and similar programs made it harder to convict criminals, because the jury expected the guilty party to crack and confess to the crime in court - just like on TV.

    8. Re:storytelling by dkf · · Score: 1

      Next time the guys in CSI can scan a DNA sequence in a matter of minutes (or perhaps hours, as the camera briefly observes an analog clockface), don't nitpick the usual technical constraints of a process that usually takes days or weeks or months.

      Note that we're going to be at that level technically in a year or two. (Knowing what that DNA sequence means... we're a long way off that; DNA sequencing is a horribly messy affair.)

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    9. Re:storytelling by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The problem is that in terms of story telling, computers have become an cover for pulling a deus ex machina at any point in the plot. Computers are used to patch holes in the narrative logic.

      And the problem is not that the details would be boring to watch. I mean, they would, but why do they even bother to show their fantasy devices working? Just have some minor character come in and say, "Hey Boss, I'm done with the DNA sequence!". Great, on with the plot!

      If you are going to show details at all, and have any aspirations of realism, do 'em right!

    10. Re:storytelling by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1489

    11. Re:storytelling by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I've had exactly the opposite reaction to CSI style shows; I can't tell where technology ends and fictitious "science" begins. This lack of certainty has made it all but impossible for me to embark on any kind of substantive crime spree, secure in the knowledge that I have eradicated any potential clue from the scene of my crimes.

      Posting as AC for obvious reasons, under the assumption that this "IP tracing" is just another Hollywood invention.

    12. Re:storytelling by houghi · · Score: 1

      And then there are those who say that having violence on tv (and in games) has no influence whatsoever.

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    13. Re:storytelling by misexistentialist · · Score: 5, Insightful

      It is hardly outrageous for juries to demand evidence! Proving things is hard, but that doesn't mean prosecutors can just tell stories to get people locked up, any more than cops can beat hesitant suspects because "police have a difficult job."

    14. Re:storytelling by weicco · · Score: 1

      You are absolutely right but if these technical impossibilities are used as a key element in a plot, for instance cops can zoom in and clear up a messy picture, rotate it in 3D and recognize the bad guy (I think this was done in some Denzel Washington movie), then there's something definetely wrong. Either the storywriter doesn't have very good imagination or (s)he has too good (read: wild) imagination.

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    15. Re:storytelling by cgenman · · Score: 1

      In House of Flying Daggers, the epic struggle was still a fight between people, and was resolved by the main character choosing to end his own life to protect the ruler he had come to kill. In Independence Day, the epic struggle was man against the cold unknown, and was resolved by pressing a big red button.

      And that's really a big difference. In 24, Jack Bauer flies around faster than a car or a helicopter ever could take him. But it doesn't matter, as it is tangential to the plot. But when a hacker whips out a keyboard and removes your identity from history, that's key to making things work. A lot of the problems with hollywood movies and technology happen because the tech is integral to the plot, either finding ultimate resolution or driving it forward when the writer ran out of ideas. Oh look, we beat the international crime syndicate by hacking into their mainframe and re-routing their airplane to a prison in Detroit. I know, we'll hack into every cellphone in the city to find the bad guy. We remotely re-routed the bomb targeting mid-fall from New York City to the harbor where drug cartel boat was hiding.

      Either as setup or resolution, it is just a ghost-in-the-machine to drive the plot forward. It has no character impact, it doesn't explain inner emotions, and it has no emotional satisfaction as a way of triumphing over evil. It's poor writing, plain and simple.

      To be fair, sometimes Hollywood gets it right. In the total popcorn flick cellular, the writer actually had some knowledge about how telephone switching works. It comes off as real and authentic, and a badly-needed grounding point in a movie where everything else is basically impossible.

    16. Re:storytelling by glwtta · · Score: 1

      Details like that don't matter. Struggling against time, intrigue, and moving the plot along: that's what matters.

      Details matter if the writer isn't a lazy hack. If your story is set in the real world, and you can't propel all that intrigue forward in a compelling way, while still observing the constraints of the real world, then you are simply not a very good writer.

      Nobody wants these guys show boring technical things in excruciating detail. If it's not interesting, don't show it, find some other way to move your story forward, but don't just make shit up because you can't make reality fit with your plot. It's laziness, pure and simple.

      In the movie House of Flying Daggers, there's a swordfight scene where the two rivals finally clash in an epic struggle as the seasons change from summer to fall to winter all around them. Obviously nobody can fight for nine months.

      This is an artistic element in a movie about magic, it has absolutely nothing to do with what we're talking about.

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    17. Re:storytelling by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Of course they can get fingerprints from anything - they just read the script and call central casting.

    18. Re:storytelling by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Next time the guys in CSI can scan a DNA sequence in a matter of minutes (or perhaps hours, as the camera briefly observes an analog clockface), don't nitpick the usual technical constraints of a process that usually takes days or weeks or months.

      Except this lack of 'nit-picking' has real-world consequences. At the weekend I was reading a story in a newspaper where some real-world forensics investigators were complaining that shows like CSI have given the public the impression that they are magicians to the extent that juries are acquitting people because the police don't have a CSI-style case... after all, since they know from CSI that DNA sequencing only takes a few seconds, why don't the police have DNA evidence to prove that this guy is guilty? And why can't they get perfect fingerprints from objects where fingerprints can't possibly exist? CSI can get fingerprints from anything.

      Anything that makes a jury less likely to convict is a good thing. One hundred guilty people free beats one innocent guy in jail anytime. No person on a jury should ever convict if they're not sure the guy is guilty. If the prosecution can provide the evidence, the man should be convicted, if the evidence is not enough to be very convincing, he should be acquitted.

    19. Re:storytelling by Zordak · · Score: 1

      In the movie House of Flying Daggers, there's a swordfight scene where the two rivals finally clash in an epic struggle as the seasons change from summer to fall to winter all around them. Obviously nobody can fight for nine months. Obviously the sword choreography was on a completely different time scale to the environment they were in. Details like this matter if you're a weak-minded literalist. As pretty as the visuals were, it simply communicated a story like a line in a novel. It was a powerful visual metaphor.

      I'm going to disagree with you on this one. The whole film took place in late fall (which was an intentional visual metaphor). When they started fighting, it was sunny outside (perhaps that's what gives the impression of summer), but the leaves are all brown and autumney. The director was planning to film a straight autumn scene, but then (according to the director's commentary), in a great moment of serendipity, it started snowing in the middle of the shoot. So they went with the snow, thereby further enhancing the visual metaphor, since winter seems to come on just as (SPOILER ALERT) Mei dies. You also get the outstanding visuals of blood in the snow and the dagger shaking snow out of the tree. And that little bit of serendipity makes this one of my favorite cinematic scenes of all time (well, that, and the "showdown," where what happens doesn't make sense unless you think carefully about each character's motivation in doing what he/she does, and then it makes perfect sense).

      And on an unrelated note, nobody should ever watch this movie with the lame English dubbing. Watch it with the awkwardly-translated subtitles, and enjoy Zhang Ziyi's expressiveness.

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    20. Re:storytelling by AthanasiusKircher · · Score: 1

      Except this lack of 'nit-picking' has real-world consequences. At the weekend I was reading a story in a newspaper where some real-world forensics investigators were complaining that shows like CSI have given the public the impression that they are magicians to the extent that juries are acquitting people because the police don't have a CSI-style case... after all, since they know from CSI that DNA sequencing only takes a few seconds, why don't the police have DNA evidence to prove that this guy is guilty? And why can't they get perfect fingerprints from objects where fingerprints can't possibly exist? CSI can get fingerprints from anything.

      Agree completely with this -- a trend that has been noted by law enforcement for quite a few years now.

      This post seems to have generated the typical Slashdot wisdom in replies about how all cops are corrupt, anything that makes it harder to convict is a good thing, better to let 100 guilty men free... etc.

      At the risk of going against the mainstream here, I think the larger issue here is anything that tends to distort people's perception of the efficacy of various forensic or investigative procedures -- in EITHER direction.

      For example, CSI may make it seem like DNA analysis is fast and easy, fingerprints are readily available, etc. But they also make hair and fiber analysis seem more convincing than it should be. The show doesn't consider the statistics or procedures involved in making any sort of match (DNA, fingerprint, fiber, bullet, etc.) with any degree of detail -- instead, the computer always just displays a magical number: "98% match" flashing or whatever. What does such a match mean? If you're talking about a city of a million people, and there's a 2% chance that this thing could match someone else, does that mean that there are 20,000 other suspects we should be looking at? Such questions are rarely addressed on CSI.

      Basically, juries tend to overestimate the efficacy of many procedures, particularly traditional investigative "techniques" like eye-witness identification, handwriting analysis, etc. Most people think they understand how to recognize someone's face or writing or whatever, so they have an instinct about whether they should believe such evidence. (Even though their instincts are usually wrong.)

      On the other hand, we don't have an intuition about how hard or easy it should be to match fingerprints or DNA or fibers or whatever, because most people don't have personal experience doing those things. When we have a popular TV show watched by a lot of potential jurors that pretends to show them a quasi-realistic portrayal of how such things are done, and yet represents them in a very misleading way, this is a real problem... whether it results in more or less convictions because of those distortions.

    21. Re:storytelling by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Did you know lawyers have been selecting jurors based on if they have watched CSI?

    22. Re:storytelling by HeckRuler · · Score: 1

      More then likely at least half the people on your jury will have an IQ under 100. It's not a great system, this whole "democracy" thing, but it's the best tried so far.

    23. Re:storytelling by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not to mention the fact that many, many Criminal Justice programs are as popular as they are largely because of the entertaining crime-scene activities shown in those shows...

    24. Re:storytelling by Darinbob · · Score: 1

      Then why not leave all the weird stuff out? The plot could advance in CSI if the guy says "I looked it up on google, and here's his address". Instead they feel compelled to zoom in on a picture taken with a mobile phone until they can read his address from a laundry receipt sticking out of his pocket from across the road. No, Hollywood seems to compelled to stick this stuff in because they need fillers. It takes 3 seconds to say "I googled it", but a whole 5 minute montage in the lab means you have 5 minutes less script to write.

    25. Re:storytelling by Fjan11 · · Score: 1

      Entirely off-topic, but several (democratic) countries have a judicial system with law experts instead of laymen on the jury.

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    26. Re:storytelling by Lunzo · · Score: 1

      You're missing the point. DNA evidence isn't a silver bullet that makes or breaks a case. Like all evidence it is fallible. Ditto for fingerprints. The problem is that CSI watchers assume DNA == guilty, No DNA == not guilty which isn't true in all cases.

    27. Re:storytelling by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ... you're saying that lazy storywriting should not be addressed?

    28. Re:storytelling by TheTurtlesMoves · · Score: 1

      Juries of your peers... means not above average! Really, I was not picked because i was at university doing a PhD, and hence over qualified to be representative juror. Since only 2% on the population have a masters degree or above.

      But i agree still that the solution is *not* to make fictional entertainment more accurate. Any more than to legislate news media to have less "spin".

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    29. Re:storytelling by TheTurtlesMoves · · Score: 1

      ...any more than cops can beat hesitant suspects because "police have a difficult job."

      I though this was practically codified by now. ;)

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    30. Re:storytelling by HeckRuler · · Score: 1

      I think I'd trust the lawyers even less.

    31. Re:storytelling by Fjan11 · · Score: 1

      They're called judges

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  31. Mistaking dramatic license for technical error... by Idarubicin · · Score: 4, Insightful

    8. Online chats always display each character as its typed.
    ...each character of a message is displayed as its typed...the typing is always faster than fluent touch-typists can manage and no mistakes are ever made - not once is the backspace key pressed...No IM system in popular use does this...

    I was using ICQ back in 1998, and it had the option of displaying each chat character as it was typed. It meant you could express more complex thoughts, without requiring the other person to sit and wait patiently for you to develop a whole paragraph. It let the other guy step in and say 'I see where you're going, but let me stop you there...'. It opened up opportunities for dramatic timing and deliberate use of backspacing for comedic effect. It was more 'live' than a one-line-at-a-time chat modality, despite its warts. While this style of online chat may not be particularly popular today, it was (and still is) readily available.

    In real-life telephone conversations, you don't get to review each sentence before it goes out over the wire; if you choose the wrong word you just have to live with it.

    To the other point, I just have to say -- what? People can perform tasks flawlessly in movies? It turns out that unless required for dramatic effect (as a somewhat-lazy shorthand to convey nervousness or poorly-concealed deception), characters always speak in clear, perfect setences and never use the word "um". Their shoelaces are always tied, their hair is always perfect, and they never miss the bus unless their character is required to be unlucky or miserable. People in movies seldom need to visit the washroom, and then only to have private conversations -- never to defecate, except as a route to teen-movie fart jokes.

    Movies are a projection of reality, not an exact duplicate. People tend to do non-visually-arresting and plot-irrelevant things faster or behind the scenes. Watching someone make typos for two hours isn't my idea of a good time.

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  32. Re:Computers? Big Deal... by chill · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Start small, like with the JFK "Magic Bullet" theory. Once you grasp that, you can move on to The Duke and such puzzlers like the 24-shooter that really looks like a 6-shooter.

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  33. TV Tropes: Magical Computer by tepples · · Score: 1

    Then...don't reward them by linking to them?

    Instead, we can link to TV Tropes: Magical Computer and ruin each other's days the right way.

    1. Re:TV Tropes: Magical Computer by arb+phd+slp · · Score: 2

      Shit, I was going to get some work done today.

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    2. Re:TV Tropes: Magical Computer by arb+phd+slp · · Score: 1

      Oh, who the hell am I kidding? I'm already on Slashdot. (If they let me post instead of waiting 30 more seconds I could get back to that actual work I wasn't doing).

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    3. Re:TV Tropes: Magical Computer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You are a disgusting slimy little faggot.

    4. Re:TV Tropes: Magical Computer by dzfoo · · Score: 1

      Fuck you! Fuck you! FUUUUUUUUUUUUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      I'm going to be late for work now.

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  34. Passwords by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I guessed more than one person's password in two tries or less in college. One was "flip" (she was a gymnastics fan). Another was "girls" (That should be enough for you to picture this guy).

  35. Cracked Article by Ltap · · Score: 0, Redundant

    This seems almost identical to the Cracked article of the same name, just less humorous.

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  36. Re:Mistaking dramatic license for technical error. by 0100010001010011 · · Score: 4, Funny

    It let the other guy step in and say 'I see where you're going, but let me stop you there...'. It opened up opportunities for dramatic timing and deliberate use of backspacing for comedic effect.

    Kanye?

  37. Irony by Voyager529 · · Score: 2, Funny

    "Here's a link for the top 10 things that computers can do in movies but can't do in real life"

    *clicks link*

    "A rendering error occured"

  38. Very lame indeed. by MrNemesis · · Score: 5, Informative

    If you want to read something alot more entertaining and you're happy with it being spread across multiple pages, read the pages at TV Tropes instead: http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/MagicalComputer It includes all the ten tropes in the list, plus many more, without obnoxious advertising.

    It's much funnier, has exhaustive examples, and will ultimately ruin your life.

    A bit more back on topic, my favourite "enhance" button was seen in some terrible movie starring Jack Black as a CIA hacker which I came across whilst, er, herbally medicated. It featured the usual "enhance" button with a (literal) twist - using "inference AI" it could turn a patchwork of images into a 3D model... including the bits that weren't filmed. The wall-banging stupidity of this was even a major plot point - the model was done so they could find out where someone had stashed the microfilm, or some such rubbish - typical modest programmers, they write their AI to infer things and it turns out to be an all-seeing eye that can observe past events witnessed by no other human. The only reason I'm sad I can't remember the name of that film is in case I accidentally start watching it again.

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    1. Re:Very lame indeed. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Enemy of the State. You're welcome.

    2. Re:Very lame indeed. by LatencyKills · · Score: 2, Informative

      I'm pretty sure you're thinking of Enemy of the State (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0120660/). Not a great movie, but not awful either.

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    3. Re:Very lame indeed. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Enemy Of The State with Will Smith and Gene Hackman.

    4. Re:Very lame indeed. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm pretty sure you are referring to Enemy of the State starring Will Smith. A movie with many great examples of Hollywood tach.

    5. Re:Very lame indeed. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Enemy of the State.

    6. Re:Very lame indeed. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Enemy of the State

    7. Re:Very lame indeed. by metamechanical · · Score: 4, Funny

      I'm pretty sure that was Nacho Libre

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    8. Re:Very lame indeed. by rcamans · · Score: 1

      Have you heard of www.imdb.com?

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    9. Re:Very lame indeed. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I believe you're thinking of Enemy of the State, starring Will Smith and Gene Hackman.

    10. Re:Very lame indeed. by Richy_T · · Score: 1

      Three Men and a Baby

    11. Re:Very lame indeed. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's called Enemy of the State with Will Smith.

    12. Re:Very lame indeed. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The only reason I'm sad I can't remember the name of that film is in case I accidentally start watching it again.

      Enemy of the State

    13. Re:Very lame indeed. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Enemy of the state, with Gene Hackman and Will Smith.

    14. Re:Very lame indeed. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    15. Re:Very lame indeed. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Enemy of the State. Jack Black was a bit character, not the star (that would be Will Smith). Pretty good movie, stupid scene (though appropriate for the movie's government conspiracy theory premise).

    16. Re:Very lame indeed. by biobogonics · · Score: 2, Informative

      If you want to read something alot more entertaining and you're happy with it being spread across multiple pages, read the pages at TV Tropes instead: http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/MagicalComputer [tvtropes.org] It includes all the ten tropes in the list, plus many more, without obnoxious advertising.

      It's much funnier, has exhaustive examples, and will ultimately ruin your life.

      Yes, the linked website hits one of my favorite classic computer no-nos "slot machine passwords". Remember the movie "Wargames"? In it, the WOPR locks on to individual characters in the pasword, one at a time. Tension builds as 9 are guessed and finally all are guessed. Of course such a keyboard search would take almost no time at all in real life.

    17. Re:Very lame indeed. by MrNemesis · · Score: 1

      In a lovely display of quasi-reciprocal something or other, I wish I hadn't made my comment now so I could have modded you funny :) Everyone else seems to think I'm incapable of looking up the movie on IMDB and that I actually want to see it again.

      Speaking of which, there should be more government conspiracy/mexican wrestling crossover movies.

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    18. Re:Very lame indeed. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Enemy of the State is the movie you are refering to with Will Smith!

      That particular scene was painstakingly annoying.

    19. Re:Very lame indeed. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And how do you search for funny computer moments on IMDB again?

    20. Re:Very lame indeed. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's 'Enemy of the State' 1998.

    21. Re:Very lame indeed. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Enemy of the State, with Will Smith and Gene Hackman, in case anyone is curious.

    22. Re:Very lame indeed. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Enemy of the State? where they get a sat image to show dude's face without him looking up?

    23. Re:Very lame indeed. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Your movie sounds like Enemy of the State, Black had to 'enhance' CCTV video of Will Smith in a lingerie store.

    24. Re:Very lame indeed. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Enemy of the State is the movie.

  39. There's a Famous Story, in Certain Circles... by RobotRunAmok · · Score: 5, Interesting

    It's taken on a kind of Urban Legend patina, so take it with a grain of salt, but here goes:

    Seems that the Art Department and Properties guys -- the crew responsible for dressing the set -- for Star Trek IV were all HUGE Amiga fans. No real surprise there, given where Amiga was at the time the movie was shot. So... in the famous scene where Scotty, the ultimate fictional Uber Engineer, has traveled back in time and assumes all computers are voice-activated (as they are in his century), talks into a mouse, the Art guys wanted their Amiga to be the one featured in the scene. So they sent some reps just up the road apiece from where they were filming in San Francisco to meet with the Amiga honchos and get some hardware for the scene. As the story goes, the Amiga guys were initially annoyed, cuz it was all so unannounced and sudden, and then they agreed only if the crew paid for the gear. "No loaners."

    "Um, but, it's the new Star Trek movie, and it's Chief Engineer Scott, and he's back in our century, and he could be using YOUR computer, and we all really love Amigas on the set, and..."

    "Sorry. Sign this Purchase Order or get out."

    So the crew called Apple, who "got it" in a heartbeat, sent in a Marketing SWAT team with free Macs for the scene, free Macs for everyone on the crew, and technical advisers to stand by during the filming to make sure everything went smoothly.

    Amiga, the astute among you have by now noticed, is no longer with us. Apple, on the other hand...

    1. Re:There's a Famous Story, in Certain Circles... by m.ducharme · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      Amiga, the astute among you have by now noticed, is no longer with us. Apple, on the other hand...

      ....is still turning a profit by churning out shit that no one in their right mind would want (but can't seem to stop buying)?

      Closed playgrounds (that just work), DRM (that mostly stays out of the user's way), well-designed shiny shiny, and cult-like peers.

      FTFY

      I'm not implying that Apple is the be-all and end-all of computing, but just because you don't perceive value in what they do doesn't mean that the value isn't there.

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    2. Re:There's a Famous Story, in Certain Circles... by NiteShaed · · Score: 1

      yeah, I hate how I can only get software for my MacBook from a locked-down app-store, and how all my music is DRM'd 'cause there's no other choice.....oh, waitaminute, none of that's actually true.

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    3. Re:There's a Famous Story, in Certain Circles... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      It's taken on a kind of Urban Legend patina, so take it with a grain of salt, but here goes:

      Seems that the Art Department and Properties guys -- the crew responsible for dressing the set -- for Star Trek IV were all HUGE Amiga fans. No real surprise there, given where Amiga was at the time the movie was shot. So... in the famous scene where Scotty, the ultimate fictional Uber Engineer, has traveled back in time and assumes all computers are voice-activated (as they are in his century), talks into a mouse, the Art guys wanted their Amiga to be the one featured in the scene. So they sent some reps just up the road apiece from where they were filming in San Francisco to meet with the Amiga honchos and get some hardware for the scene. As the story goes, the Amiga guys were initially annoyed, cuz it was all so unannounced and sudden, and then they agreed only if the crew paid for the gear. "No loaners."

      "Um, but, it's the new Star Trek movie, and it's Chief Engineer Scott, and he's back in our century, and he could be using YOUR computer, and we all really love Amigas on the set, and..."

      "Sorry. Sign this Purchase Order or get out."

      So the crew called Apple, who "got it" in a heartbeat, sent in a Marketing SWAT team with free Macs for the scene, free Macs for everyone on the crew, and technical advisers to stand by during the filming to make sure everything went smoothly.

      Amiga, the astute among you have by now noticed, is no longer with us. Apple, on the other hand...

      Given more credence by the fact that an Amiga is used earlier in the movie, in the scene where the (23rd century, Vulcan) computer asks him "HOW DO YOU FEEL?"

      Given less credence by the fact that the Star Trek production team has admitted in various books (like the Tecnhical Manual and Encyclopedia) that they use Macs for everything, from designing the LCARS diagrams to driving the blinking LCDs on the Enterprise series. (Though this might be a result of Apple's attention in Star Trek IV)

    4. Re:There's a Famous Story, in Certain Circles... by Inda · · Score: 1

      And that is exactly where Apples belong: on the TV.

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    5. Re:There's a Famous Story, in Certain Circles... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Amiga, the astute among you have by now noticed, is no longer with us. Apple, on the other hand...

      ....is still churning out shit that no one in their right mind would want?

      Closed playgrounds, DRM, shiny shiny, and cult-like peers.

      And, as it turns out, there's a lot more people not in "their right mind" than there are you. Now, define "in their right mind" if they're all doing perfectly well for themselves.

    6. Re:There's a Famous Story, in Certain Circles... by corbettw · · Score: 4, Insightful

      ....is still churning out shit that no one in their right mind would want?

      They've got a license to print money with their AppStore and have made many people incredibly wealthy. What have you accomplished by comparison? You don't even have a Slashdot account.

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    7. Re:There's a Famous Story, in Certain Circles... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Apple on the other hand... no longer makes computers. They make toys for big kids with lots of expendable income.

    8. Re:There's a Famous Story, in Certain Circles... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Which is, incidentally, exactly what the Macintosh originally was supposed to be. So I guess they succeeded.

    9. Re:There's a Famous Story, in Certain Circles... by Tak_1 · · Score: 1

      Yeah, nobody wants Unix when they can have Windows 7. "Sarcasm"

      Seriously though, Does EVERYTHING have to be about slamming Apple? Get over it already. This argument is dated as Kirk VS Picard. There is enough room for everyone to have the OS that works for them.

      It just seems recently EVERY thread no matter the topic is getting slammed with anonymous Windows fanbois out on a tear. Just get over yourselves, there is more than enough market. In the end everyone can use what they enjoy using. And you think WE are a cult? Pot-Kettle-Black. Anyway, who uses just one OS anymore?

  40. Rainbow Tables? by 0100010001010011 · · Score: 1

    I've cracked passwords in a few minutes using rainbow tables. Granted you need the weeks/months before hand to generate said tables, but if you have a few hundred gig laying around, no reason not to.

  41. To be fair, Ozymandias' password was in the comic by aapold · · Score: 1

    The movie was faithful to Alan Moore's take on how passwords were cracked in the graphic novel.

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  42. Another version... by Daetrin · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Looks like a variation on the "5 Things Hollywood Thinks Computers Can Do" article from cracked.com.

    Also, i'd like to point out that the Expert Reviews version used really poor examples for their #1 case that computers which are just left on will develop intelligence. V'ger didn't develop intelligence on its own, the original primitive computer was massively upgraded and reprogrammed by some aliens who found it, it wasn't just "left on." In Skynet's case the basic computer was powerful enough to develop sentience and did so almost immediately after being turned on, there was no "just leave it on long enough" involved. The WarGames example from the cracked article was better because it didn't show any signs of intelligence immediately after being turned on, and it involved completely understandable and by now quite outdated technology that clearly would have a hard time opening a modern webpage, much less developing intelligence.

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  43. GUI Noise by Itninja · · Score: 1, Redundant

    I always find it annoying how everything one can do on a Hollywood computer makes a sound. Moving a mouse across the screen? Woosh! Enlarging a window? Zipp!

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    1. Re:GUI Noise by SvnLyrBrto · · Score: 1

      Doesn't windows come with sound themes to do exactly that? I remember for a while, before everyone realized what an awful idea it was, you could even buy third party ones in stores like: "The Official Star Trek: The Next Generation(tm) Font and Sound Pack for Windows(tm)".

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    2. Re:GUI Noise by canajin56 · · Score: 1

      I had a computer like that. The electronics in the videocard or something put out a LOT of noise, and the sound card wasn't very shielded. The noise depended on the color balance all across the screen. Move a mostly white window across a mostly black desktop? You could hear the sound change as it moved. You could even hear the mouse cursor move. The high pitched noise was kinda close to the whiny sound text makes on CSI ;)

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    3. Re:GUI Noise by Locke2005 · · Score: 1

      Hollywood computers obviously only use a user interface designed by Wiley Coyote.

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    4. Re:GUI Noise by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      Hey, hey, that's one of the few realistic things. I had a coworker that had his Windows tuned to do just that.

      Oddly enough, his soundcard stopped working the next day. It's amazing what problems a little error in the BIOS tuning can cause. Really sorry about that...

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    5. Re:GUI Noise by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I always find it annoying how everything one can do on a Hollywood computer makes a sound. Moving a mouse across the screen? Woosh! Enlarging a window? Zipp!

      At least it makes more sense than star ship engine noise in a vacuum.

    6. Re:GUI Noise by Tetsujin · · Score: 1

      I always find it annoying how everything one can do on a Hollywood computer makes a sound. Moving a mouse across the screen? Woosh! Enlarging a window? Zipp!

      Hey, in the early 90s we paid good money to get software to do that... And then most of that functionality was included by default in Windows 95. Do you want your computer to make random jungle sounds when you click on a button? Here you go, part of your desktop theme...

      Over time most people came to realize that this just got annoying after a short while - so while the functionality remains most of the sounds tend to be turned off.

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    7. Re:GUI Noise by Aliotroph · · Score: 1

      My last three computers have actually done this. It appears to involve unshielded electronics somewhere between the sound chip and my headset and it happens continuously. With practice I can learn to tell what's happening on the screen by the changes in the static in my headset. The mouse-moving noise is very quiet and subtle, but rendering a PDF or dragging a window over another one can make an impressive array of odd noises.

      It doesn't bother me at all because it's so quiet. What bothers me is how everything that isn't a computer makes constant beeps, and loud ones at that. The girl in the back of the bus wakes up everybody because her Blackberry beeps with every text received, iPods click, and microwave ovens are the worst. They not only beep loudly (and often uncontrollably), but they have doors designed to make as much noise as possible at all times, preventing any kind of late-night stealth usage.

  44. CSI by maccallr · · Score: 1

    While on the subject of CSI, don't you love the way they just happen to have a custom spinny-roundy 3D database for just about anything you can care to think of.

    That, and the rather optimistic natural language queries they type into the aforementioned databases.

  45. Obligatory CSI pot shot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'll create a GUI interface using visual basic, see if I can track an IP address.

  46. My favorite by mix77 · · Score: 1

    Computers respond to any understandable human terminology! And it turn, computers respond in a equally understandable manner!

  47. EOL by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I EOL'd when I read that.

    1. Re:EOL by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      EOL? End of life? You died? How then did you post?

    2. Re:EOL by John+Bayko · · Score: 1

      EOL = "Enhance" Out Loud

  48. Oh please by geekoid · · Score: 2, Insightful

    You pick the one most plausible.
      I know it's popular to rag on that, but it's actually plausible:

    1) They studied the system for years.
    2) The system might not have been a Mac. Could have been a custom OS.
    3) There a hive mind race. they would not have any really need for security.
    4) Electronics are electronics faster smaller. But from a black box approach, no different.
    5) You Assume that the system would some how be perfect.
    6) He exploited a trusted system by exploiting another trusted system.

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    1. Re:Oh please by arb+phd+slp · · Score: 1

      You pick the one most plausible.

        I know it's popular to rag on that, but it's actually plausible:

      1) They studied the system for years.
      2) The system might not have been a Mac. Could have been a custom OS.
      3) There a hive mind race. they would not have any really need for security.
      4) Electronics are electronics faster smaller. But from a black box approach, no different.
      5) You Assume that the system would some how be perfect.
      6) He exploited a trusted system by exploiting another trusted system.

      I've always thought the same thing. I go through similar rationalization for The Matrix, in that all the stuff Morpheus tells Neo about humans being a power source is just wrong, and that he doesn't really know why or how the Matrix exists. All he knows is what the last One was allowed to learn before he escaped a century ago. However, like Independence Day, the Matrix sequels are too crappy to really deserve that much benefit-of-the-doubt.

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    2. Re:Oh please by denzacar · · Score: 1

      Please. It is a fun movie but it IS flawed.

      1) No they didn't. Alien fighter was not operational until "last couple of days when all lights and gizmos have lit up".
      Also, "hacking" into an iPod does not mean that you can "hack into" OSX the same way.
      2) Irrelevant. It wasn't AlienOS. He didn't even have an actual alien computer other than the one that ran the alien fighter. Which was built for only that single task.
      You know... like the way they DON'T actually put one PowerBook into an F22 and another one into M1 Abrams and just load up the proper software.
      3) And yet they had the concept of shields, armor and various weapons. Even using telepathy as a weapon. Like... you know... using a living computer to attack and take control over another computer.
      But sure. Any form of security to prevent that never occurred to them. Oh, no.. wait.. I actually meant that it would.
      4) Can you "hack into" your computer using a C64? How about a pocket calculator? How about one of them old room-sized computer that used vacuum tubes?
      And let us not even go into computers that use some completely different form of power and not electricity like every single one our civilization uses. Cause ID4 aliens didn't use electricity.
      Also, see 1.
      5) No. You assume that. Nowhere is it mentioned that aliens had a PerfectOS 1111.111111 installed. It would however be eons beyond anything humanity has at the moment.
      They did travel here from across the galaxy and not vice versa.
      6) Wait, what? See 1 again.

      And again. It is JUST A MOVIE!

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    3. Re:Oh please by TheRaven64 · · Score: 1

      2) The system might not have been a Mac. Could have been a custom OS.

      A custom OS that looks exactly like MacOS and prominently displays AppleTalk protocol info while connecting?

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    4. Re:Oh please by MistrBlank · · Score: 1

      THANK YOU!

      You're one of the few people that actually gets that, never mind the fact that the aliens were already admittedly from the beginning of the movie using our own satelites for communication! Of course if they can interface with us the reverse must be true, and especially from the one one guy that figured out (at least in part) what the code meant in the first place!

      I'm sorry, but everyone misses the fact that with the plot elements in place it was possible, not to mention it was a homage to a virus killing the aliens in War of the Worlds.

    5. Re:Oh please by CastrTroy · · Score: 1

      There's no reason you couldn't hack into a standard PC using a C64. There are web browsers for the C64 (Google it) with a full TCP/IP stack. If you can have a web browser that connects to the internet, there's no reason you couldn't write a program to attack an open port on somebody's computer.

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    6. Re:Oh please by hibiki_r · · Score: 1

      Except to do all that, one first has to get documentation on TCPIP, a modem, find a connection into the network, get knowledge of the other person's computer, and THEN hack it.

      So to hack into the PC, you need information that would take many decades to reverse engineer by hand. You can only hack it by using a ton of shortcuts.

    7. Re:Oh please by Monkeedude1212 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      No. Its not plausible. At all. If you had any idea how difficult it is to migrate a program from English to French, you wouldn't be saying that. Decimals to Comma's, that alone messes up tons of Accounting databases.

      1) They still didn't know how it worked, they mentioned that.
      2) Regardless, the idea is that its a human OS and not alien.
      3) Then they wouldn't have shields.
      4) Not all electronics work the same. This is why there are issues with video games on differing video cards, why you can't run MS-DOS on Solaris machines, etc etc.
      5) No, I'm assuming that the system is beyond our skillset to manipulate. Like if they use quantum computing and quantum encryption, we wouldn't have the means to inject our own code into a stream. Not too mention our own code, C or assembly or even Matlab won't run on alien architecture, like how most Windows games don't run on Macs.
      6) His exploit was mystically deciphering an entire alien legacy of computers and machinery in order to disable one function. If I had that power, I would have turned off the cooling systems for the plasma firing weapons. Have them blow themselves up.

    8. Re:Oh please by Knara · · Score: 1

      Eh, I interpreted it "powering on" as it just lacked the power source that the aliens used to run it. They seemed perfectly able to interface with the ship itself once it was powered on.

      I'd also hope that the rate of OS bug appearance would have slowed in a very advanced spacefaring race, so that the Roswell ship would have been more or less compatible with the current mothership OS. As for security, well, I suspect that the aliens are no better than we are when it comes to social engineering.

    9. Re:Oh please by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      I have a bit of a problem with the outright denial of something implausible that isn't impossible. Impossible now, perhaps not so much later would be a better approach to things regarded as impossible (like faster then light travel). Just because something violates our current understanding of possibility does not mean that it isn't so. I remembered a quote from that famous scientist everyone knows:

      “Imagination is more important than knowledge. For knowledge is limited to all we now know and understand, while imagination embraces the entire world, and all there ever will be to know and understand.” - Albert Einstein

    10. Re:Oh please by plan10 · · Score: 1

      I thought Aliens used IPX ?

    11. Re:Oh please by plan10 · · Score: 1

      If someone breaks your system, that doesn't imply that you can break their system.

  49. Movie makers don't believe... by Deadstick · · Score: 1

    ...that a computer can take over a car. They believe that the audience is a bunch of rubes who will buy that sort of thing.
    And guess what? They seem to sell a lot of tickets.
    rj

    1. Re:Movie makers don't believe... by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      Because the audience does not care. They want to get entertainment. They don't care too much for realism.

      When was the last time you saw a car explode in an accident? And I don't mean "burn for 15+ minutes after the gas lines have been cut and then finally you get to see a BOOM that makes the lid fly off", I mean going off like it's body was made of explosives. When has any gunshot ever thrown anyone backwards into a window which shatters into a billion tiny bits?

      Do you expect this to happen in reality? It won't. Ever. It happens all the time in action movies. Why? Because it's fun to see stuff explode!

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  50. It's fiction! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Just leave aside your IT knowledge and enjoy the show! It's fiction, it doesn't have to make sense all the time.

    The same things could be said about House or Grey's Anatomy in regards of medical issues. How much time does it take to run a blood sample analysis? Or a DNA analysis in CSI? I'm sure it's much longer than what they pretend, but I don't care...

    Still, TFA *is* funny...

  51. Of course those scenes are rediculous.... by NiteShaed · · Score: 4, Insightful

    but the fact is, doing a scene where a sysadmin bangs around in a terminal typing commands just isn't fun for the viewer. The reason we laugh so hard at these things though is because technology is our thing. It's true for almost anything in an entertainment-oriented (as opposed to educational) movie. Try some of the following:

    Watch a few cop movies with actual cops.
    Watch some hospital-based TV shows with some doctors, nurses and paramedics.
    Watch a couple of movies that focus on car chases/stunts with some mechanics.
    The list goes on and on. What you'll see though is, those people will have the same general reaction to Hollywood depictions of their areas of expertise that we have regarding use of computers/technology. Accuracy and entertainment just don't always go well together.

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    1. Re:Of course those scenes are rediculous.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Try some of the following:

      Watch a few cop movies with actual cops.
      Watch some hospital-based TV shows with some doctors, nurses and paramedics.
      Watch a couple of movies that focus on car chases/stunts with some mechanics.
      The list goes on and on. What you'll see though is, those people will have the same general reaction to Hollywood depictions of their areas of expertise that we have regarding use of computers/technology. Accuracy and entertainment just don't always go well together.

      Watch porn movies with prostitutes?

    2. Re:Of course those scenes are rediculous.... by 16K+Ram+Pack · · Score: 1

      Watch a few cop movies with actual cops.

      When Edgar Wright interviewed policemen for Hot Fuzz he asked them what part of police work was never shown, and they said the paperwork. Which is why there's this high-octane paperwork scene.

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C5QIUYg5M6w

    3. Re:Of course those scenes are rediculous.... by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      Actually, for most of these other shows you mention, they now hire consultants to make the display as accurate as possible (within the limits of dramaturgy requirements, nobody wants to see a cop fill out reports or show docs hook up the 100th dialysis patient).

      Just, oddly, for "computer movies" you never get to see an expert on the team. Why? Because, let's face it, our work is just plain BORING to watch. From programming to administration, hell, even hacking is boring to watch. Mostly because to find it entertaining, you already have to know a fair lot of the stuff to even understand what's going on. Everyone can understand why cops chase a robber and how a shootout works. Everyone can understand why the operation room gets hectic when you hear the flatline beep. But computers? Even if it gets hectic for us, it's hard to convey just why. It's never life or death, no matter what we do. Nobody's going to die if the server isn't up in a minute. And there's preciously little we could do to speed it up or some clever trick we could pull when we wait for a server to come online.

      It's just not interesting to watch real computer stuff.

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    4. Re:Of course those scenes are rediculous.... by NiteShaed · · Score: 1

      Actually, for most of these other shows you mention, they now hire consultants to make the display as accurate as possible (within the limits of dramaturgy requirements, nobody wants to see a cop fill out reports or show docs hook up the 100th dialysis patient).

      They do hire consultants, but it's not to make sure things are realistic, it's so if there's a realistic alternative to what they're doing that will still work in the scene they'll know about it. Having consultants doesn't stop anyone from going ahead and doing what they think makes for a more interesting story just because it's unrealistic on a technical level. CSI is a perfect, and egregious, example. IRL those guys are basically lab-technicians, on TV they're chasing bad-guys through Vegas and carrying guns.

      Everyone can understand why cops chase a robber and how a shootout works. Everyone can understand why the operation room gets hectic when you hear the flatline beep. But computers?

      That's exactly the point, you *think* you know how those things work, but for someone who actually *is* a cop, or a heart-surgeon, the portrayals are just as unrealistic in many (most?) cases as uploading a virus to an alien computer, or breaking encryption just by putting a gun to a "hacker's" head. Think about it, with your shoot-out example. Usually, *if* things get to the point of shooting, it's over in seconds with only a few shots fired. In Hollywoods version, everyone goes through clips like they're playing DOOM, there's running, driving, maybe a little swimming, an exploding car or two, and any people who actually get shot fly 20 feet through the air as if they've been hit by a truck rather than a 9mm round which would just cause them to fall down. Even the footage on "Worlds Wildest Police Chases" doesn't compare with what you see in a lot of cop movies, and those clips represent the *craziest* stuff that happens.

      Yes, there are *some* realistic portrayals of cops and heart-surgeons, but there are some realistic portrayals of technology too. It's just more fun to beat up on the crazy stuff :)

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    5. Re:Of course those scenes are rediculous.... by ricosalomar · · Score: 1

      Accuracy and entertainment just don't always go well together.

      You forget This is Spinal Tap / Mighty Wind. No professional musician would dispute the universal truths contained in them.

    6. Re:Of course those scenes are rediculous.... by swillden · · Score: 1

      Accuracy and entertainment just don't always go well together.

      That may be true, but your post doesn't support the point.

      What your post points out is that Hollywood is equally bad at portraying other specialties accurately. That's a separate question from whether or not an accurate portrayal can also be entertaining -- or if it might sometimes even be MORE entertaining.

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    7. Re:Of course those scenes are rediculous.... by rickb928 · · Score: 1

      "but the fact is, doing a scene where a sysadmin bangs around in a terminal typing commands just isn't fun for the viewer"

      Maybe not for you, but watching two sysadmins bang out single-line bash scripts that redirect all elecrical power from the entire U.S. into an experimental fusion reactor to blast an asteroid out of the sky, while the evil aliens pound on their control panels in frustration works for me. Especially while the hot one keeps shedding clothes. Human or alien, it almost doesn't matter, so long as she is still in her Natasha Henstridge form. After she molts, well the ship's blowing up anyways, so we can watch all the wacky space physics of explosions, fireballs and all.

      Bonus points for coding a quick alien DVD playback routine in Python - in less than 20 seconds. While complaining about their failed marriage, and all the great sex they used to have in between marathon coding sessions. Or was it great code in between marathon sex sessions?

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    8. Re:Of course those scenes are rediculous.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Watch a few cop movies with actual cops.
      Watch some hospital-based TV shows with some doctors, nurses and paramedics.
      Watch a couple of movies that focus on car chases/stunts with some mechanics.
      The list goes on and on. What you'll see though is, those people will have the same general reaction to Hollywood depictions of their areas of expertise that we have regarding use of computers/technology. Accuracy and entertainment just don't always go well together.

      Or watch porn with your wife!!!

    9. Re:Of course those scenes are rediculous.... by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      Yes, all right and correct, but the closer you get to the present in the retrospect of movies, the closer you also get to an accurate portrayal of police and medical work. It's a long way from Mod Squad to Law&Order.

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    10. Re:Of course those scenes are rediculous.... by dwye · · Score: 1

      Or watch a war movie with military veterans. My father's one cousin and another cousin's husband were both Air Force colonels, and the only thing that they talked about after watching Saving Private Ryan was all the mistakes in the uniforms.

    11. Re:Of course those scenes are rediculous.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Never watch a historically based film with a historian.

    12. Re:Of course those scenes are rediculous.... by MediaCastleX · · Score: 1

      I have to concur. Anyone else notice just how incredibly *boring* real life can be sometimes?! I mean its the whole reason we watch TV and movies...but not TV movies, I felt they have never lived up to either medium.

  52. Worst film ever made? by GodfatherofSoul · · Score: 1

    Can we stop with hyperbolic negative comments about TPM? Did it not live up to a lot of expectations? Yes. Was it in the same league as Drop Dead Fred? No. I bet this douchebag has it on VHS, DVD, and Blue Ray.

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    1. Re:Worst film ever made? by mujadaddy · · Score: 1

      TPM? Was it in the same league as Drop Dead Fred? No.

      Not even close! Rik Mayall hit that one out of the park!

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    2. Re:Worst film ever made? by Blakey+Rat · · Score: 1

      What's TPM? I Googled it and got nothing (well, except a political blog.)

      Just as a tip: acronyms should only be used if you're sure the party you're talking to is going to understand what the holy hell you mean.

    3. Re:Worst film ever made? by Tetsujin · · Score: 1

      What's TPM? I Googled it and got nothing (well, except a political blog.)

      Just as a tip: acronyms should only be used if you're sure the party you're talking to is going to understand what the holy hell you mean.

      "The Phantom Menace". The article cited it as one of the worst films ever made. I wouldn't go that far - it was just a bad combination of dull characters and annoying characters and boring sequences and sensory overload and lots and lots of hype.

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  53. How about this? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    IIRC, In "Digital Fortress" (book), the good guy cracks a cipher by adopting the following process

    (1) De-compiling a binary to produce source code (not assembly but source code)
    (2) The de-compiling also uncovers all the comments
    (3) Then they look for comments which doesnt make sense, find a pattern and crack the cipher.

  54. 2012 by Fozzyuw · · Score: 1

    While I wait for the /.-ed website to load, I will give the one movie that bothered me when it came to "technology", 2012.

    Ok, it was 2012. We're not talking a movie that doesn't have holes the size of planets in the logic. But suspending disbelief (and to just watch the eye candy of CGI), it came down to the Arcs. Here all the main characters are, standing on the bridge of one of the Arcs and they're talking about calculating the time when the big wave will hit them and someone notices an error and needs to recalculate the impact count-down clock...

    The DIGITAL clock doesn't just instantly flip to the new time... no! That would be too modern. It has to quickly speed down from the current time to the new, shorter time. With, appropriate sound effects making it sound like a mechanical clock. Ok, I got a kick out of that.

    Of course, the other movie I got a kick out of... was Avatar. Sure, there's all kinds of things people can point out about this film when it comes to the science of it all, however, the one thing I loved was how these Avatars (which apparently cost so much money it couldn't be mentioned) didn't have a GPS tracking chip in them. That seems like the most logical thing to embed in this thing... you know, just in case it gets lost.

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    1. Re:2012 by BCoates · · Score: 1

      I haven't seen the movie, but isn't it set on another planet? GPS doesn't do much without all those satellites.

    2. Re:2012 by Tetsujin · · Score: 1

      I haven't seen the movie, but isn't it set on another planet? GPS doesn't do much without all those satellites.

      If you're visiting an alien world with the intention of locating and strip-mining valuable mineral deposits, it seems one of the most useful investments you could make early on would be to toss a couple dozen GPS satellites into orbit. Can't be that hard when you've got interstellar space travel and all - though supposedly the magic rocks also played hell with all manner of communications devices as well...

      And that, to me, is the bigger plot hole. The one piece of communications that somehow never fails is the link between operator and avatar. How does that work?

      These things didn't really affect my enjoyment of the movie - but a plot hole is a plot hole, you know?

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    3. Re:2012 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      if your going to go that far, then why didnt these satellites also have nukes or lasers to eliminate indigenous problems with also?

    4. Re:2012 by TheTurtlesMoves · · Score: 1

      yea--because flying to another star system with a bunch of military equipment is *soo* much easer than adding a few GPS satellites. We almost have GPS on mars right now!

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  55. practical video still enhancement by pikine · · Score: 4, Informative

    If you are given a video stream from a security camera and the subject is moving slowly relative to the frame (e.g. license plate of a car taxiing towards a gate), you may have a chance to recover more spatial resolution using temporal information. The idea is that each pixel in the camera will "scan" slightly different parts of the subject in different frames, like how a flatbed scanner works. If you can accurately track the subject in different frames, then you can stitch together a scan of the interesting pixels to uncover subtle detail. Here is a commercial product that implements this feature.

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    1. Re:practical video still enhancement by Have+Brain+Will+Rent · · Score: 1

      Years ago NASA developed precisely that technology to enhance image data from the Hubble - it is called "DRIZZLE" technology. I don't know if NASA was the first to describe and/or implement such technology.

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    2. Re:practical video still enhancement by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In most realistic scenarios, you'd get 2x the resolution, if you are lucky. I've worked on super-res, and yet to see one of these "incredible" results except in a few select scenarios.

  56. Oh, good, another "textual slideshow" by Quiet_Desperation · · Score: 1

    11. Hollywood thinks that the web can present information or articles all on one page, and not broken up into multiple ones. Those silly screenwriters! When will they learn that [NEXT >>>]

    1. Re:Oh, good, another "textual slideshow" by Cprossu · · Score: 1

      I'm convinced it's this whole "web 2.0" junk,

      Taking 1 page of information and making you click 20,000 times to view it all

  57. sneakers by fringd · · Score: 1

    sneakers is the real deal, if you want a semi-realistic hacker movie.

  58. Re:Computers? Big Deal... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    When John Wayne fired a gun, at least two Indians dropped instantly. *At least* two. You can keep those computers, I want to better understand the technology behind The Duke's bullets...

    Simple. Chuck Norris appeared. The fact John Wayne fired his gun was a coincidence.

  59. sneakers was the most real one remake it and keep by Joe+The+Dragon · · Score: 1

    sneakers was the most real one remake it and keep it like how things are done in real systems.

  60. It was brilliantly parried! by Geoffrey.landis · · Score: 1

    Yes, the original article says

    3... "As we all know, all zooming into a poor-quality image would do is give a muddled blurry mess on the screen. This technique was recently brilliantly parried in Red Dwarf."

    Since Red Dwarf was cancelled in 1999, it makes me wonder how old this article is.

    Also makes me wonder if they fired all their copy editors. "recently parried"?

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    1. Re:It was brilliantly parried! by Richard_at_work · · Score: 2, Informative

      Red Dwarf: Return To Earth was a three part revival done for the TV channel 'Dave' last year (2009).

    2. Re:It was brilliantly parried! by Geoffrey.landis · · Score: 1

      Really? Red Dwarf got revived?

      Shows what I miss by not having cable. So, television now has a channel called "Dave"?

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    3. Re:It was brilliantly parried! by Inda · · Score: 1

      "Dave" is a man's channel. Endless comedy and fast cars.

      And one week later, they shown the same programmes again!

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    4. Re:It was brilliantly parried! by pcgc1xn · · Score: 1

      And it should be pointed out, that if you loved Red Dwarf, you should immediately rush out and buy this DVD. And then put it in the microwave for fear that some innocent may hear "Red Dwarf is great" and rather than buying series 1, buy the revival and think that the rest of it was like that. The revival sucked. Hard. Just thought I would get that info out as a public service for all of the people who like me thought "more red dwarf, cool".

    5. Re:It was brilliantly parried! by Tak_1 · · Score: 1

      If you wanted to see Red Dwarf Return to earth in the US, you didn't need cable you needed Bit-torrent. It was great. "And their parody of the godlike ability of computers to "enhance" was classic, and very tongue in cheek.

      Sadly, except for a very lame attempt at an "American version" our television overlords don't consider Red Dwarf suitable for American markets, "or marketing".

      "Its cold outside, There's no kind of atmosphere, I'm all alone, More or less."

    6. Re:It was brilliantly parried! by Pharmboy · · Score: 1

      "Dave" is a man's channel. Endless comedy and fast cars. And one week later, they shown the same programmes again!

      So it's like Spike TV with a funny accent? ;)

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    7. Re:It was brilliantly parried! by soliptic · · Score: 1

      You don't need cable for Dave (formerly UKTV G2), it's on Freeview. And if "Freeview" means nothing to you, then having cable probably won't help you either (wrong market).

      Dave (TV channel)

    8. Re:It was brilliantly parried! by fyrewulff · · Score: 1

      British Red Dwarf shows all the time on local PBS stations. Well, the last time I had access to PBS (still haven't gotten around to buying a new TV).

      In fact, there's a large amount of British sitcoms and comedy shows on our PBS channel.

      I remember watching "Are You Being Served?" as a kid here in Nebraska a lot and liking it. Came on every weekday.

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    9. Re:It was brilliantly parried! by AK+Marc · · Score: 1

      I have Freeview down under, you insensitive clod.

    10. Re:It was brilliantly parried! by Tak_1 · · Score: 1

      Oh well, my bad. Not had a TV in some years, I knew they used to play the original series, did they play the three season Return to Earth made last year?

    11. Re:It was brilliantly parried! by Meski · · Score: 1

      Since Red Dwarf was cancelled in 1999, it makes me wonder how old this article is.

      Also makes me wonder if they fired all their copy editors. "recently parried"?

      Yes, they should have said recently dodged. Parry can cause parry-haste.

    12. Re:It was brilliantly parried! by Meski · · Score: 1

      Complete with pod-bay doors, no doubt.

  61. Spam. Re:Cracked.com by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    1. Copy + paste a popular text/image, make minor changes
    2. Post link to slashdot
    3. ???
    4. Profit

    It's the same again and again on slashdot, digg or any other site providing backlinks.

  62. 10. When systems go wrong, stuff starts to explode by Cprossu · · Score: 1

    They might change that after they get a gander of what their server room looks like now. ;)

  63. The password thing by russotto · · Score: 5, Funny

    Easily guessable passwords are real, as tons of other slashdot stories remind us. Of course, they often can't be quite that simple, because of password security rules. But that could lead to a new Hollywood password cracking scheme:

    Geek Hero: Try "password"
    Hot Girl at Keyboard: That'll never work, they've got strict password rules at EvilTech
    GH: What are they?
    HG: Has to be at least 8 characters including upper and lower case, at least one but not more than two numbers, and exactly one special character. Can't contain a dictionary word or abbreviation in any of 87 languages, including !Kung and Klingon, nor can the numbers be a day of the month or of special significance nor...
    GH: Stop right there, there's only one password which matches those rules... try this...
    HG: We're In!

    1. Re:The password thing by Cprossu · · Score: 1

      haha!

      Seriously though, Hollywood isn't serious enough about this, if it were real life, the password would be clearly labeled on a post-it note stuck to the monitor of the offending computer.

    2. Re:The password thing by 91degrees · · Score: 1

      In real world situations that's actually pretty good security. If you have physical access, then you can get pretty much anything you want anyway on most typical desktop systems.

    3. Re:The password thing by 91degrees · · Score: 1

      Well, more perfectly adequate than pretty good...

    4. Re:The password thing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Very true.. too bad the company I was thinking of had a poorly paid janitor, and the post-it note with the user name and password belonged to a manager with full administrative rights(!). Thank god the tape backups worked for once.

    5. Re:The password thing by 16K+Ram+Pack · · Score: 1

      that was what was one thing that was spot on about Wargames. I've been in a few offices where people did precisely the same thing (often because they were forced to remember half a dozen passwords for half a dozen different systems and had to change them every month).

    6. Re:The password thing by MartinSchou · · Score: 1

      Let me guess. The actual password is:

      P@ssw0rd

    7. Re:The password thing by physicsdot · · Score: 1

      with rules that strict, you can be pretty sure the password will be written on a post-it note on the guy at EvilTech's display.

  64. Inject a virus into an alien operating system? by Geoffrey.landis · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Explanation 7) All Earth computers actually use technology stolen from crashed UFOs from Roswell. Their operating systems are the same as ours because our operating systems actually are theirs.

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    1. Re:Inject a virus into an alien operating system? by unixguy43 · · Score: 1

      Which explains why MacOS, Windows, and Linux aren't compatible with each other in the least, but all can infect alien computers with the exact same command:

      UPLOAD VIRUS

      Also, notice how every movie computer geek that is in trouble always has the exact viral code sequences ready to disable the mainframe at the right moment?? Usually prefaced by "I've been waiting for the right time to use this, and now it's here!"

    2. Re:Inject a virus into an alien operating system? by Geoffrey.landis · · Score: 1

      Which explains why MacOS, Windows, and Linux aren't compatible with each other in the least, but all can infect alien computers with the exact same command:

      UPLOAD VIRUS

      OH, NO!!! Why did you type that??? My system is craxhinqx*$#^^$&&!--

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    3. Re:Inject a virus into an alien operating system? by MistrBlank · · Score: 1

      For a "Unix guy" you seem to fail at understanding USER CREATED BATCH COMMANDS!

    4. Re:Inject a virus into an alien operating system? by unixguy43 · · Score: 1

      "Mistr Blank" is obviously appropriate since you fail to understand sarcasm.

    5. Re:Inject a virus into an alien operating system? by lennier · · Score: 1

      So that's why aliens keep invading Earth: to get the latest Windows patches!

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    6. Re:Inject a virus into an alien operating system? by catbertscousin · · Score: 1

      And the RIAA blames us for piracy! Aliens are clearly the only people who'd want some of the stuff they complain is being downloaded.

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  65. This comes from the greeks by mapuche · · Score: 1

    This is called suspension of disbelief. It's a contract between the actors and the public, sometimes work and sometimes doesn`t.

    1. Re:This comes from the greeks by 91degrees · · Score: 1

      Some of it I'm okay with. The computer gaining intelligence is obviously not going to happen but it's a good enough "what-if". Character-at-a-time chat looks better and not completely implausible.

      I do have a problem with a lot of the virus stuff though, and easily guessable passwords. The former just means the story is incoherent because as far as the writers are concerned, they've suddenly got a magical problem with a magical solution. It lends itself to a deus ex machina. Easily guessable passwords are a deus ex machina.

    2. Re:This comes from the greeks by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      But why computers? Why do we have to suffer from a lack of this suspension? It works for hospital dramas where they hire doctors to make it accurate, it works for military dramas where they either get clued consultants or even gain the support of the military altogether, it works for pretty much any kind of setting. Why not computers?

      Is it because hacking is, when done properly, not really a spectator sport, so they have to "spice it up"?

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    3. Re:This comes from the greeks by 16K+Ram+Pack · · Score: 1

      But a lot of people do use easily guessable passwords. If you could get access to the records of a veterinarian and filter out just the female cat owners with email addresses, you'd probably be able to get a lot of information. They don't all use their cat's name, but I'll bet that more than 25% do.

    4. Re:This comes from the greeks by Tetsujin · · Score: 1

      But why computers? Why do we have to suffer from a lack of this suspension? It works for hospital dramas where they hire doctors to make it accurate, it works for military dramas where they either get clued consultants or even gain the support of the military altogether, it works for pretty much any kind of setting. Why not computers?

      Is it because hacking is, when done properly, not really a spectator sport, so they have to "spice it up"?

      Does it? I've never watched a hospital drama with a doctor in the room - and I've never watched a war movie with a military man in the room...

      Well, I did watch "Aliens" with my dad in the room, and he thought the dropship pilot was delightful - but that, I think, was more a matter of a caricature that resonated with him, rather than any kind of factual accuracy about military pilots.

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    5. Re:This comes from the greeks by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      I know paramedics and war vets, and yes, there's a LOT of bull flying around for both genres, but there are a few movies that made a pretty good attempt at being accurate while still being entertaining. Especially the war movie genre moved on from pathos and heroism to something where realism and depiction of what actually happened became more of a focus. Admittedly, it's much easier with war movies, a lot of guns blazing and bombs exploding is already pretty spectacular, even if you try to be realistic and don't try to exaggerate.

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  66. i only read the first one by shadowrat · · Score: 1

    I have seen a computer begin to smoke when a fan failed. If the computer hadn't been processing so many triangles the fan wouldn't have run so long, and would likely have lasted longer. It essentially overheated and smoked from processing too hard. There have been a number of highly publicized reports of laptops bursting into flames. I know it was the batteries, but still computers can go up in flames.

    1. Re:i only read the first one by shadowrat · · Score: 1

      i went back and read the second one. That's also totally legit. Isn't that exactly what happened to Palin? Doesn't password guessing happen ALL THE TIME RIGHT NOW? Computers don't make it hard or easy to guess passwords. people make easily guessable passwords.

    2. Re:i only read the first one by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      All fine and true. And in the presence of a computer, any average, usually sane person becomes a vegetable (I can only speculate what Palin was turned into, but let's not go into political bashing).

      But when a system that belongs allegedly to a computer wizard is also "secured" by one of those guessable passwords, it becomes simply too stupid to imagine. Could someone guess your password from knowing you well?

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  67. And in a related department... by Millennium · · Score: 1

    On my personal top ten list of "Things I Wish Media Knew Computers Could Do," #1 is displaying entire articles on a single freaking page.

  68. Buggy website by Prien715 · · Score: 1

    Can someone post the list? This website is hopelessly retarded and doesn't know how to go to page 5. Not that it's a particularly good list.

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    1. Re:Buggy website by Cprossu · · Score: 1

      I can't see page 4 myself, keeps kicking back to page 1...

      The Hollywood GUI installed on the server probably isn't helping things.

  69. APK, the self-proclaimed Ozymandian failure by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    1. Re:APK, the self-proclaimed Ozymandian failure by clone53421 · · Score: 1

      AlecStaar was an APK sock-puppet all along? Well... that’s news even to me.

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  70. Re:Clone's now trying to use ac replies to fool us by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Oh look, it's the troll that's been stalking Clone53421, Squiggleslash, and Tom Hudson.

    For those new to this, the troll is someone claiming to be a defender of a certain Alexander Peter Kowalski, the author of a tool, apkapp2backgrounddaemonprocessengine, generally considered malware by a large number of anti-malware companies and organizations.

    CA
    PestPatrol
    SpywareDB ("Dangerous!")
    Freedom Anti-Spyware
    Spycheck (Spanish-language) - "Recomendacion: DESACTIVAR Y ELIMINAR"
    Spyware No-More ("Threat risk: High risk", "Advice: Remove This is a very high risk threat and should be removed immediately as to prevent harm to your computer and / or to protect your privacy")

    Mr Kowalski, or his admirer, got upset because someone had the audacity to link to a threat describing Kowalski's attempts to remove some embarrassing comments posted under his name. Rather than deal with it maturely, this person has been attempting to stalk said poster and those who pointed out Kowalski wasn't doing himself any favors.

    So if you see these comments posted as replies to clone, squiggleslash, or Tom, now you know why they're appearing. And if you feel like joining in, making it clear to Mr Kowalski that spamming, sliming, and stalking are unacceptable, well, come on in, the water's lovely!

  71. I have a few other wishes at that by Moraelin · · Score: 3, Interesting

    TBH, if I'm to wish for something from SF movies, it would include stuff like:

    - Hoshi's universal translator from Enterprise. It can hear a few phrases in an alien language and then be able to translate back a response that includes words and semantic structures it never heard yet in that language. Note that it didn't even need to be told a translation for that original sample. It could just hear "bbzzt klick klickety-klick hrr bzzt" in some insectoid language and just figure out what it means and, for that matter, what the whole rest of the language is like.

    Beats spending eternity to learn some foreign language.

    - The magical interface that allows Data to type whole programs by pressing one of 6 buttons on the side of a touchscreen. No, really. Or for that matter, whatever system allowed Hoshi to type answers to be translated for the alien web-like entity by using only 4 buttons. Makes even the keypad of a cell phone look comfortable by comparison.

    - the kind of programming language used by that precursor race on TNG which can not just be encoded in a few proteins and survive billions of years of mutations, and run on _any_ computer that it may be on after those billions of years, and could also actually just start itself after being stored on a tricorder... but can actually modify the tricorder to include a holographic projector

    - the kind of interpolation software that allows them to go "captain, they're targetting their photon torpedoes at our warp core!" I mean, I could understand interpolating the direction a gun is pointing at, but to know where a torpedo will go after exitting a fixed launch tube, now that's serious magic.

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    1. Re:I have a few other wishes at that by theCoder · · Score: 1

      Agreed on a lot of that (I wonder if they ever fixed that auto-run security bug in their tricorders?), but depending on the targeting sensor, it may be possible to tell what the enemy vessel is targeting. For example, even today, our military can "paint" a target with a laser that relays information about the target to whatever weapons system is being used. If the TNG targeting system was a similar active sensor, that might allow the victim ship to be able to tell what is being targeted.

      Of course, knowing this, a good weapons system designer would try to switch to a more passive sensor (like reflected light) to do targeting, so that the enemy doesn't know what you're looking at.

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    2. Re:I have a few other wishes at that by Blakey+Rat · · Score: 1

      - The magical interface that allows Data to type whole programs by pressing one of 6 buttons on the side of a touchscreen.

      Or that scene in Insurrection where Picard presses *literally two buttons* on the control panel of a *shuttlecraft* and it brings up the soundtrack of the H.M.S. Pinafore, complete with sing-along lyrics.

      Of course that movie was awful, but... scenes like that make movies awful.

    3. Re:I have a few other wishes at that by Moraelin · · Score: 1

      Good call on that. But in the sequence I described, actual program code, complete with indentation and all, appears as Data is mashing a total of six buttons on the side of the touchscreen.

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    4. Re:I have a few other wishes at that by Jiro · · Score: 1

      What gets me is no backups. I just saw this show up again the other day on Smallville; Chloe and Tess can escape a trap by freezing and shattering the walls but it destroys the computer data. Not if you have backups.

    5. Re:I have a few other wishes at that by sznupi · · Score: 1

      Battles in ST are often at the distances and speeds when such targetting system becomes mostly useless due to speed of light limit; you would never hit the spot anyway... (yes, the battles typically seem to be happening at a distance of only few to dozen kilometers; but not only that might be enough, also the Picard maneuver shows us the distances aren't really that small)

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    6. Re:I have a few other wishes at that by PingSpike · · Score: 1

      Its not that far fetched. First we had original typewriters that were redesigned to the QWERTY keyboard configuration to slow down typists that were jamming the machines. Then we went from the keyboard to those god awful thumb typing things on cell phones. It doesn't seem to far fetched that we'll have evolved to a horrible one handed 6 button interface by 24th century.

      Data still makes it look easy though, he does have that super human speed and all.

    7. Re:I have a few other wishes at that by Moraelin · · Score: 1

      But at least those god-awful thumb keyboards have the excuse that they must fit on a pocket-sized device. That someone would have a touch-screen the size of a dinner table and not be arsed to even provide a full on-screen keyboard, but do that 6-button stupidity just for novelty sake... actually, you obviously have a better understanding of humanity than I have. Sir, I salute you.

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    8. Re:I have a few other wishes at that by ElectricTurtle · · Score: 1

      To be pedantic, it could be a chorded input system like the Twiddler which compresses the functionality of a whole keyboard into 16 buttons.

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    9. Re:I have a few other wishes at that by ElectricTurtle · · Score: 1

      Although your points are mostly valid (with the input interface exception, though I dealt with that separately), the photon torpedo scenario is not only completely reasonable, it's present day technology. A military aircraft's onboard computer can tell through its sensor package when it is being targeted. This is because targeting systems are frequently active, radars pinging, lasers lasering, and generally doing whatever they can to track their target. This is also why ECM exists, to introduce enough noise to the sensors of a weapon that it can't maintain a signal, or to introduce 'louder' fake targets that the weapon will lock onto instead.

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    10. Re:I have a few other wishes at that by Moraelin · · Score: 1

      I know. Believe it or not I'm a reserve AA sergeant. I'm not teh uber-soldat or anything, but I have some ideas of how you guide a missile to a target :p

      And that a part of it is also not being a dumbass and tipping your hand when you don't need to :p

      And I already answered this, but here goes again: for a missile, and for the kind of scenarios in those episodes (they already have each other on the screen, and we're not talking split second reactions), is there any reason to alert your enemy by painting it with your aiming signal minutes before actually firing a torpedo? Why? Just so he can turn sideways and deny you that clear shot to their reactor? Or so they can already adjust their counter-measures / redirect power to the shields over that spot / polarize hull / send engineering teams in advance / whatever? If you have your computers already tracking the enemy ship well enough so you have it kept centered on your viewscreen, is there any particular reason not to wait until actual launch before you turn on the missile guidance? I mean, whatever camera is already tracking that ship could have the laser or whatever attached and just turn it on when needed.

      Heck, as I was saying before, I would launch the torpedo with image recognition. The technology exists already and, honestly, have you seen the size of the photonic torpedo casings on the NX-01? Adding that wouldn't even make a measurable difference to size or weight. Then only turn on the painting signal at the last possible moment so the missile can still hit the desired spot more accurately. If nothing else, it still then has the fallback that if they jam your signal, the missile can still have a plan B and still hit _something_. And you just gave them less time to react or jam your signal or whatever.

      Basically I see your point that such a scenario is possible, but basically every single civilization out there, Klingons, Romulans, Vulcans, Ferengi, you name it, would need to be dumbasses who haven't figured the above out. And really, it's not rocket surgery ;) It took me 5 minutes to figure out why I wouldn't do that in advance, and I'm not some modern day Sun Tzu or anything. I'm sure realistically some admiral or chief engineer out there would go, "wait, we're doing _what_ in advance?"

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    11. Re:I have a few other wishes at that by Moraelin · · Score: 1

      Hmm, point taken and well made, but I should have mentioned that neither Hoshi nor Data seem to press more than one button at a time when using that "keyboard". So chorded it obviously isn't.

      Besides, really, do you expect the kind of directors for whom computers explode when they crash, to actually know about chorded input? That kind of thing is still niche even among nerds like us.

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    12. Re:I have a few other wishes at that by Joe+Mucchiello · · Score: 1

      But if any one of those is possible, all of them are. Both the Universal Translator and Data's magic 6 button presses are examples of a beyond-AI DWIM interface. Likewise, the DWIM software can tell what the captain of the enemy ship is targeting through the same technology. All I know is it probably has something to do with tachyon particles. :)

    13. Re:I have a few other wishes at that by Scrameustache · · Score: 1

      if I'm to wish for something from SF movies, it would include stuff like:

      - Hoshi's universal translator from Enterprise.

      TNG's Communicators have Universal Translators built-in. Plus those hands-free suckers probably interface with a cell network automatically.

      Wishing for Enterprise tech... WTF is the matter with you?

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    14. Re:I have a few other wishes at that by BikeHelmet · · Score: 1

      - Hoshi's universal translator from Enterprise. It can hear a few phrases in an alien language and then be able to translate back a response that includes words and semantic structures it never heard yet in that language. Note that it didn't even need to be told a translation for that original sample. It could just hear "bbzzt klick klickety-klick hrr bzzt" in some insectoid language and just figure out what it means and, for that matter, what the whole rest of the language is like.

      I believe we'll eventually have translators like that - but they won't function like that.

      The translator will passively scan the nearby creature's brain, examine and interpret the structure, then crunch numbers until it can guess the language, perhaps cross referencing with the creature's memories, etc. until it has a profile built.

      Of course, to get there we'll need a revolutionary speed increase, rather than evolutionary. Something that kicks us from ghz to thz or beyond. Building a profile of a creature's mind would probably take hundreds of terabytes of RAM, too.

      But if we look at the speed and capacity increases over the past 40 years... maybe, just maybe!

    15. Re:I have a few other wishes at that by Nick+Number · · Score: 1

      - The magical interface that allows Data to type whole programs by pressing one of 6 buttons on the side of a touchscreen.

      I dunno. There are some serious drawbacks to an interface like that.

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    16. Re:I have a few other wishes at that by DarwinSurvivor · · Score: 1

      Or have the ability to paint fake targets on redundant/cheap parts of your own ship to mess with the enemy's targetting system.

    17. Re:I have a few other wishes at that by ElectricTurtle · · Score: 1

      In the Star Trek context, I agree, it doesn't make sense simply because they should have moved beyond something equivalent to laser guidance. However it's also possible that this is the result of extremely capable computer extrapolation. If the max speed and max maneuverability of the weapon are known, as soon as you have different known points in space-time for the torpedo you can create a cone of probable paths extrapolated from that axis. Faster the torpedo, the narrower the cone, and while the screenplays all call for the torpedoes to be dramatic, relatively slow-moving hammers, the design specifications are for independently warp capable munitions. I'm sure that the maneuverability at speeds in excess of c is pretty limited.

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    18. Re:I have a few other wishes at that by PingSpike · · Score: 1

      I would assume the 6 button interface exists everywhere to maintain consistency with the Tricorder. Soon enough the QWERTY keyboard will be replaced on desktop PCs with a hand held device that allows our teenagers to harness their texting ability when typing papers.

    19. Re:I have a few other wishes at that by History's+Coming+To · · Score: 1

      There have been multiple "one handed typing" devices over the years, I remember seeing one in ST/Amiga Format magazine in the early nineties. They use five/six/seven buttons and you use key combinations to represent characters....a five button pad gives you 5!=120 different "keys" (OK, 119). There's an example here: http://www.onehandedkeyboard.com/bat.html

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  72. Survival of the fittest by gwolf · · Score: 2, Funny

    Some Indian tribes developed a natural instinct to play dead upon hearing a gunshot. That allowed them to later recover consciousness and take revenge.

    And thus having more fertile offspring, of course. That instinct is a beautiful proof of Darwinism.

  73. Unrealistic computer security by linebackn · · Score: 1

    Hollywood also thinks it is easy to "hack" in to any particular system to get whatever important piece of information is needed to move the story along.

    While in real life some systems may not exactly be super secure, they would likely spend days digging through the system going "what the hell is this crap?" before actually finding any meaningful, correct data. And you never hear them say "Oh, we can't get in to this system because it is properly firewalled, up to date, and secured."

    And on the other end there always seems to be some security room with lots of monitors where someone instantly detects the "hack" and asks the big bad/good guy what they should do.

    In real life their system has been p0wned for the last two years and they never noticed, and nobody knows enough about the system to fix it.

  74. The mainframe... by ProgramErgoSum · · Score: 1

    is the most secure, sacrosanct computer at a top secret location in most movies. There might be an element of truth, but somehow an ultra-secure computer has to be a mainframe in the movies.

    1. Re:The mainframe... by Cprossu · · Score: 1

      that's because they blow up better than your standard 1u and 4u servers when things go wrong ;)

    2. Re:The mainframe... by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      Not only that, but to do anything with this computer, you have to go all the way down into the superspecialsecret base and then sit down at "the mainframe", to a keyboard that died out with the last moonshot and an 11" green monitor, where our hero will punch a few keys (read: mash the keyboard fairly randomly), then all hell breaks lose.

      Key question for 200: What good is a superspecialawesome mainframe when there is no way to access it from anywhere but the console right next to it? It's patently useless if it's a single user, single client system. Any computer for 300 bucks can do that.

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  75. Re:Computers? Big Deal... by yabba-dabba-do · · Score: 1

    But first you must realize the truth... There is no bullet!

  76. Just another clueless rant by Cprossu · · Score: 1

    1. Left long enough, a computer becomes intelligent
    -Just what do you think you're doing, Dave?

  77. Re:To be fair, Ozymandias' password was in the com by Culture20 · · Score: 1

    And both comic and movie were set in the 80's. Who didn't use stupid passwords in the 80's? I remember using an adverb in the early nineties thinking I was cool because "no one would think of an adverb; everyone uses nouns". Ah, youth and inexperience.

  78. Hollywood is just as bad with guns by Happy+Nuclear+Death · · Score: 1

    If you're even mildly involved in real-life shooting, either as a hobby or professionally, you're going to spot a lot of gaffes.

    I can understand simple continuity errors. By the time a film has been cut, edited, recut, edited again, Foleyed, CGI'd, etc. it's got to be difficult to keep track of whether the protagonist's gun should be empty. It doesn't take anything away to assume the hero simply reloaded offscreen.

    But these things are a totally different matter:
    -The mythical "Glock 7"
    -The slow-motion sequence showing an entire round of ammunition going downrange, not just the projectile,
    -Ammo "cooking off" somehow acting the same as if it were confined in a barrel (I'm looking at you, "Paycheck!"),

    And I can't count the number of movies/TV shows where
    -Someone "cocks the hammer" on a gun that doesn't HAVE a hammer, like a Glock.

    1. Re:Hollywood is just as bad with guns by Cprossu · · Score: 1

      Sometimes they get it right in at least one regard though (like in Dirty Harry our hero only shot 5 shots in the ending gun fight leaving 1 left for the end)

    2. Re:Hollywood is just as bad with guns by lwsimon · · Score: 1

      The Glock 7 isn't mythical - you've just never seen one. They cost more than you make in a month, after all.

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    3. Re:Hollywood is just as bad with guns by UnknowingFool · · Score: 1

      Not just that but which gun is used by characters is also questionable.

      Tombraider: Lara Croft dual wields USP pistols. This is fairly accurate as USPs as US special forces use them as sidearms. However the extended barrels and weight match are only used in competitive shooting and not in combat.

      Predator: Arnold is in the jungle with an elite special forces group. Jesse Ventura is hauling a minigun. Normally these are mounted to vehicles because the gun and ammo are freaking heavy. As for everyone else, they each used different weapons: AR15s (M16s), shotguns, M60, and MP5s (HK94s). Normally a small group might have one heavy weapon like the M60 but everyone else would use the same weapon because the team could share ammo.

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    4. Re:Hollywood is just as bad with guns by LynnwoodRooster · · Score: 1

      Or the wonderful way that ANY shot with ANY firearm will send you flying backwards, 10 feet through the air. Real life is a lot more like the old movies that are so often mocked, where the bad guy just kind of drops, rather than spins or flips or flies.

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    5. Re:Hollywood is just as bad with guns by Blakey+Rat · · Score: 1

      In Hollywood, all guns use the exact same ammo.

      Most video games are like that, too. It's actually kind of irritating in more realistic games like STALKER, when you're running low on ammo for your weapon and you keep finding the wrong kind. ("Damn this Soviet crap, I need NATO!")

      Note: I'm not a gun nut, so I probably sound like an idiot too.

    6. Re:Hollywood is just as bad with guns by Tak_1 · · Score: 1

      Gah, I hate that, I'm a gun owner, I have a permit, I carry a Glock 36 every day, and every time I get an earful of the classic "gun owners are evil" screed I hear the tale of the all plastic Glock, that no metal detector can see. I tell people there is NO SUCH THING, I show them Glock's website, I get blank stares, they just KNOW its real and I'm just a "bad ol liar" defending my horrible evil ways.

      In the end I asked them where they heard about the magic invisible Glock, they just "read it somewhere" or "someone told them about it once" Its way more fun to believe than the actual truth.

  79. Re:clone53421's now posting as AC to "fool others" by clone53421 · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    That wasn’t me.

    Poor APK, shadow-boxing with Anonymous Cowards he assumes must be me.

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  80. Re:Computers? Big Deal... by Monkeedude1212 · · Score: 1

    Gunpowder.

  81. Re:Real Time Text chat by Snoggle · · Score: 1

    Likewise AIM for Windows still supports real-time IM. It's a real boon to the deaf community as it works much like a TTY device, but without needing special hardware or relay services. Just hit control-R to get going. More detail from this 2008 article: http://tap.gallaudet.edu/text/aol/ from Gallaudet University who helped develop the technology.

  82. Re:To be fair, Ozymandias' password was in the com by aapold · · Score: 1

    Who didn't use stupid passwords?

    The smartest man in the world might....

    The smartest man in the world who was secretly plotting a world-changing event that entirely hinged on secrect to pull it off, one who was perfectly willing to murder all his top staff and confidants and assistants....

    just maybe he might not use a simple alpha-only password based on his very public alter-ego?

    This would be like a Bruce Wayne... after unmasking himself as Batman to the public.... planning to deploy his super celphone tracking system / brother eye / omac system..... after murdering Morgan Freeman just to make sure it was secret.... would have his master password for this computer be "darkknight"

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  83. clone53421's ISP will find out soon by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I am certain clone53421's going to have to find another ISP, because he is going to probably be reported for stalking apk from this forums, to another forums, and for libel and stalking online as well as harassment most likely. Dumb move clone, dumb move. It seems that the forums you posted on actually use APK's security guide to secure their forums no less and made his guide a pinned guide there no less. I think you're heading yourself into a jam clone53421 for libeling and trolling others forums to forums which most likely constitutes stalking.

    1. Re:clone53421's ISP will find out soon by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You don't know what libel is, do you?

  84. They probably DO have those IP addresses by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They probably DO have those IP addresses. Satellite building for work has their own techs (part time) and they thought "well, we have to use unused IP addresses and nobody is using the addresses in x.x.x.300+, so we'll use them for our new batch of machines".

    Honestly.

    1. Re:They probably DO have those IP addresses by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That would be incredibly clever of them, given that IPv4 only allows for 8 bits per. octet: the maximum value you can express with a single octet in IPv4 is 255.

  85. Re:Your ISP will know by clone53421 · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    You could always get a subpoena. Without one, I suspect they’d tell you to bugger off.

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  86. Hollywood got something right by Rigrig · · Score: 1

    7. Deleted files are removed from the screen

    You know the point in the film. The good guys have just got access to a computer and are looking at the secret files, when suddenly the bad guy hacks into the computer and starts deleting files. Not only are they gone from the hard disk, but they disappear from the application that they're open in.

    Our heroes look confused, and start wildly typing away in an effort to stop the process. However, not once do they think to turn the computer off and remove the hard disk, or unplug it from the internet to stop the hacker from having any access to it.

    In Hollywood land there's no such thing as an undelete utility so the files are apparently gone for ever. It's enough to make you cry.

    Seems like they actually got this right, at least when I delete files all my nautilus windows update, and good luck to anyone who tries to recover files deleted from an ext4 filesystem...

    Insert bashing of other OSes that don't do this here.

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  87. Yup, It's Obligatory by Cid+Highwind · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Slashdot: where we pretend to know everything there is to know about cross-compiling toolchains when the article is about porting netBSD to a microwave, and then pretend not to whenever someone mentions Independence Day...

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    1. Re:Yup, It's Obligatory by atomic-penguin · · Score: 1

      I know I'm not the only person to get hung up on the feasibility of inter-operating with alien technology. He could have used cross-compiling, but that assumes the aliens were using some known CPU instruction set that was native to Earth.

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    2. Re:Yup, It's Obligatory by Chris+Burke · · Score: 1

      Okay, I admit it, I don't know everything there is to know about cross-compiling toolchains.

      Is there one that supports unknown alien instruction sets? Seems like a tall challenge even for GCC. Alternatively, are there microwaves that uses a microcontroller from the alien ship at Area 51 and would make porting netBSD a challenge?

      I'm just trying to figure out your point. Throw me a bone here.

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  88. Clone's ISP will probably be notified is my guess by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    From that other forums here http://www.pcreview.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?s=0c20bd72321b9c96c7a66c25b68b16a6&p=13958812#post13958812 clone53421? We're pretty sure it is you. You're not fooling anyone with your anonymous coward replies either. You had best hope that the other forums where you stalked APK to don't give up your IP address, because that will mean APK can go to your ISP and have you reported for definite online stalking across forums to forums also (and you replying as AC here http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1639038&cid=32085082 was not very intelligent either)

  89. His password- by Cprossu · · Score: 1

    When it is raining, it is because he is sad.
    He once knew a call was a wrong number, even though the person on the other end wouldn't admit it.
    If a monument was built in his honor, Mt. Rushmore would close, due to poor attendance.
    His bear hugs are actually hugs he gives to bears.
    His computer password Is unbreakable by anyone, even those who can read it-
    He is-
    The most interesting man in the world

    etc...

  90. clone's ISP is going to be notified of stalking by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    From that other forums here http://www.pcreview.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?s=0c20bd72321b9c96c7a66c25b68b16a6&p=13958812#post13958812 clone53421? We're pretty sure it is you. You're not fooling anyone with your anonymous coward replies either. You had best hope that the other forums where you stalked APK to don't give up your IP address, because that will mean APK can go to your ISP and have you reported for definite online stalking across forums to forums also (and you replying as AC here http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1639038&cid=32085082 was not very intelligent either)

  91. Using keyboards by Logarhythmic · · Score: 1

    TFA cites the exclusive use of keyboards as a flaw... but anyone who has to constantly switch between the keyboard and the mouse knows that it's an annoyingly constant interruption and a pain in the ass. It brings to mind something a former employer of mine once said: "I never really understood the invention of the mouse. Why on Earth would anyone want to take a programmer's hands away from the keyboard?"

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  92. Missed a big one by SnarfQuest · · Score: 1

    The missed a big one that has always bothered me.

    Why does a video display sound like a teletype? Whenever they show characters being displayed on a screen, you almost always hear teletype noises. Do they really think that the characters are pounded into the glass by a mechanical mechanism hidden behine the screen?

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  93. Re:10. When systems go wrong, stuff starts to expl by HTH+NE1 · · Score: 1

    I liked how they treated this in the movie Scanners.

    [Keller backs away from the CONSEC mainframe computer as it shuts down]
    Programmer: There's no need for that. It's all very quiet. It's just internal switching.
    Braedon Keller: Really? No one's ever switched off a scanner before.
    [The computers shut down, tape drives stop, the room goes quiet]
    Programmer: See, I told you: no fireworks.
    [Programmer's workstation explodes, and everything else]

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  94. Beep Scream of Death by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Good god, this!

    I would probably end up having a movie created after me, something along the lines of the man who killed the company behind BeepOS.
    Beep Scream of Death, that would be the name.

    Don't forrrrget those wavy lines and simple polygons in a cyan color behind the transparent UIs!
    And sparkles, hundreds of them!
    Because we all love wasting those cycles on eyecandy when we are hacking the gibson!
    WATCH OUT, FLYING CIRCUIT BOARDS COMING ATCHA!

  95. Re:clone53421's now posting as AC to "fool others" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Random third party opinion here, looks like YOU are doing the stalking dude.

  96. Somewhat related... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    On a remotely related topic (Re:WarGames), my two of favorite movie lines were;
    1). ... I'd piss on a spark plug if I thought it would help (ouch)
    2). Mr. McKittrick, after very careful consideration, sir, I've come to the conclusion that your new defense system sucks. Mr. McKittrick: I don't have to take that, you pig-eyed sack a sh**! Gen. Beringer: Oh, I was hoping for something a little better than that from you, a man of your education

  97. Marketing is REALLY hard by SmallFurryCreature · · Score: 1

    Selling something is hard. There are special events where street hawkers (not sure if that is the right word, people who sell stuff from a stand) compete. It is HARD, harder even then stand-up comedy. A comic can ignore or insult a heckler, but a street vendor only gets paid if the audience really likes him AND his product and can think of a reason to buy it. You need to be able to think on your feet. In a moments notice decide that HERE is a sales opporunity and then calculate cost and benefit on the spot and act on it.

    The above story sounds a bit suspicious, although possible, because I have heard it in other forms. But the basic message is, think on your feet and never ignore an opportunity for some essentially free advertising. Some thing like this should have every sales clerk cumming in his pants, not sticking to his sales pitch.

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  98. Good old Hollywood. by MaWeiTao · · Score: 1

    Another annoying thing is interface design. They'll design these impractical but elaborate OS interfaces with all kinds of crap constantly moving and flickering.

    I realize most of these things are done for cinematic effect or as a plot conveyance. But I think one of the big culprits behind this is an apparent fear of a static shot. In nearly every movie today everything has to be doing something. Computers need to scroll text, they need to spew a barrage of content all at once, buzzing and beeping the whole time.

    Consider a movie like 2001. In this day and age there's no way in hell that movie would ever see the light of day. Compare that to something more contemporary and crappy like Mission to Mars.

    1. Re:Good old Hollywood. by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      Take any CSI episode and you get a bunch of reasons to fire that interface designer on the spot.

      Fingerprint matching? We'll get to see a whole lot of fingerprints flashing by while waiting for a result. How much network bandwidth (not to mention processor time) is wasted retrieving the whole record and displaying it, only to display what the system already knew: It's not the print we're looking for. Same goes for any other kind of matching problem. How about... I dunno, a progress bar? Or if it has to be Movie-OS compatible, a huge flashing "SEARCHING" tag across the whole screen (something the designer should be fired as well, but hey, it's MovieOS).

      You get huge, see-through, drool-over displays, but they only display one, and nothing but one, huge image, cluttered with crap nobody wants or should read. Whatever you need is displayed in a tiny little area in the middle around the flashing and bleeping crap cluttered around it. Fire the interface guy.

      Seriously, if anyone had to work with such a setup, he'd go over to IT, break the programmer's fingers and recommend to make him a consultant so he can do less damage.

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    2. Re:Good old Hollywood. by amliebsch · · Score: 1

      What do you mean consider 2001? The entire ship-board portion of the movie was filled with dozens scrolling, bleeping, buzzing and info-spewing screens. Granted, mostly in simple monochromatic vector diagrams, but still...

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  99. oblig simpsons by xandroid · · Score: 1
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  100. Re:Clone's ISP will probably be notified is my gue by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1631698&cid=32037926

    Take a look at the replies to this comment. That's what stalking looks like. When you're following every post made by clone53421, squiggleslash, and tomhudson, and making multiple, largely off-topic, replies to them demanding they answer ludicrous off-topic questions, you're stalking.

    This article is about Hollywood and habit of attributing bizarre behaviors to computers long after those computers have become commonplace and ceased to be "magic". You've come here responding to clone's comments to belittle him over, from what we can see, a perfectly legitimate discussion.

    Your way of dealing with critics is beyond hope. You accuse them of libel, while doing nothing to actually clean up your act. Your own programs are described as malware by a large number of anti-malware organizations, and you've taken no steps to correct the problem beyond threatening legitimate security people.

    You've also taken steps to promote an "anti-virus" solution that you and I know is snake-oil, namely having a giant HOSTS file containing the names of alleged corrupt sites. It fails to take into account the throwaway nature of domain names, that dynamically generated wildcard domains would bypass even the most up-to-date HOSTS file, and finally that you can bypass HOSTS just by using IP addresses. You claim that your solution works on the back of some-one who claims they only get "two viruses a month" after using your system.

    It's hard not to question your motives. You are, objectively, the most anti-social person I've come across on the 'net. Anyone else would state their point of view in relevant forums, not pursue vendettas against people who had the audacity to both disagree with you, and find evidence, such as the articles across the Internet showing you have a tendency to intimidate through the use of threatening frivolous libel suits, of bad faith on your part.

    Knock it off.

  101. Japanese manga is where it is at ... by Sepiraph · · Score: 1

    Forget Hollywood ... in Ghost in the Shell Standalone Complex, people were hacking into each other brains and stealing people's eyes. I give it 20-30 years (just so no one will remember it then) before we can do that.

  102. Personal Favoirite by TuxThePenguin2205 · · Score: 2, Informative

    The series 24 has been consistantly bad with the whole computer thing, comments about just "opening a port" etc. I also saw the worst peice of Product Placement on the show. It was around the 5th Season CTU was under attack from a hacker and an exchange along the lines of this took place. Technician 1: They're released a virus, we better do something Technician 2: Don't worry the Cisco Self defending Network should hold them for about half an hour.

  103. Start Navigation Sound by HannethCom · · Score: 1

    Who, oh who decided that having a sound every time you clicked on an item in the start menu? One of the first things I turn off on a new installation of Windows.

    Also on my Palm every button or item clicked by default had an annoying tapping sound. Fortunately it can be turned off.

    Nokia on the N900 has a clicking sound for the menus that can be turned off. It also has the ability to turn on a clicking sound for every key you press.

    So while it is annoying, it is definitely in use today.

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    1. Re:Start Navigation Sound by Blakey+Rat · · Score: 1

      Who, oh who decided that having a sound every time you clicked on an item in the start menu? One of the first things I turn off on a new installation of Windows.

      Nobody?

      What version of Windows does that? Maybe one of the International builds is funky or something...?

    2. Re:Start Navigation Sound by omnichad · · Score: 1

      What really annoys me is the recorded "shutter" sound that cheap digital cameras play when you take a picture. Actually, I think a lot of people think that sound is real. But it doesn't actually go off right when the picture is captured, so it's quite misleading. Not to mention it doesn't change based on shutter speed.

  104. Plot tools with visual interest by NixieBunny · · Score: 1

    Not just that, but they are visually interesting plot tools. Real computer use is too visually dull to be used in a Hollywood movie. And the text on the screen is much to small to resolve when the movie is shown on TV, so Hollywood makes the words really big. Maybe that will change when Blu-Ray becomes standard.

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  105. Keyboard vs. Mouse. by Arancaytar · · Score: 1

    Yep, that's right, they put down the mouse and turn to the keyboard, wildly bashing at keys while windows pop up, move around and images are zoomed and enhanced. [...] Ditching the mouse does not make anything easier

    Not so. You can manage windows almost entirely by keyboard. For me, Super+Tab pages through windows, Shift+Alt displays them on a wall, Ctrl+Alt+Arrows move between viewports, Ctrl+Shift+Arrows alters opacity, Super+M inverts colors, etc. It's a lot quicker than having to constantly move the right hand between keyboard and mouse. The better a user interface is, the more flexible it will be when it comes to input devices.

  106. Re:Mistaking dramatic license for technical error. by delinear · · Score: 1

    To the other point, I just have to say -- what? People can perform tasks flawlessly in movies? It turns out that unless required for dramatic effect (as a somewhat-lazy shorthand to convey nervousness or poorly-concealed deception), characters always speak in clear, perfect setences and never use the word "um". Their shoelaces are always tied, their hair is always perfect, and they never miss the bus unless their character is required to be unlucky or miserable. People in movies seldom need to visit the washroom, and then only to have private conversations -- never to defecate, except as a route to teen-movie fart jokes.

    Movies are a projection of reality, not an exact duplicate. People tend to do non-visually-arresting and plot-irrelevant things faster or behind the scenes. Watching someone make typos for two hours isn't my idea of a good time.

    The big difference is, all of the examples you gave are of them removing things extraneous to the plot to help drive the story. Computers are one of the few areas where they don't remove things that might be boring or incidental, they go wacky inventing things to try and make it more interesting, and quite often it comes off as incredibly dumb and breaks all suspension of disbelief. If you can't make 30 seconds of someone typing look interesting, just show us five seconds and let our brains fill in the gaps, don't turn his wordprocessor into an environment that does advanced speech recognition and renders his musings as 3D representations.

  107. Missed one by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They missed the "to destroy data on a computer throw a chair through the monitor"

  108. But something they can do in real life... by 91degrees · · Score: 1

    Be used to browse TVTropes.

    Wouldn't be surprised if there was a page with all of that lot.

  109. Re:Mistaking dramatic license for technical error. by BJ_Covert_Action · · Score: 1

    I was going to make the same complaint about the dynamic typing bit they were criticizing. I personally loved that feature on ICQ and would like to know when the hell every other chat client is going to wise up and reinstate it.

  110. Re:To be fair, Ozymandias' password was in the com by Quirkz · · Score: 1

    Yes, and it was even worse in the comic. Nite Owl types "RAMESES" and the computer prompts him with the equivalent of "you're almost there! Do you want to add more letters?" to which Nite Owl then looks at the book and adds "II" (that's 2, in Roman numerals) to complete the password. What kind of security system tells you if you're warm and helps you break in?

  111. bad storytelling by roystgnr · · Score: 1

    Would you be able to maintain the same suspension of disbelief if the CSI guys asked their in-house leprechaun to solve the crime for them? No? Why not? Because most stories are also about atmosphere and plot, and that all gets destroyed if the realistic atmosphere is unexpectedly contaminated by the surreal and the plot depends on a rescue from a deus ex machina. The difference is that script writers know that their audience isn't "weak minded" enough to buy a magic fairie, but that they can and usually do fall for a magic computer. "Oh, but they meant it to be metaphorical!" is an obvious cop-out, when you should know as well as we do that they just don't understand their setting well enough to accomplish the same conflict accurately. There are script writers who understand science and technology and make a conscious choice to violate it for some dramatic (or comedic, Futurama) effect, but they're the exception, not the rule.

  112. Re:Mistaking dramatic license for technical error. by 16K+Ram+Pack · · Score: 1

    The thing is that all those other things (e.g. missing buses) are real. You wouldn't have an expert car driver press a button and the wheels get replaced with skis (unless it's James Bond) in order that he could carry on chasing someone through snow. We know that cars don't work that way.

    And this isn't the 60s any more when operating a computer meant going into a temperature-controlled room. Millions of people know what they do and that you don't need a slow-moving progress bar to move money from A to B.

    There's a few plot devices to do with computers which are real and which I've never seen used in a movie. You could have a buddy cop scene where Bruce Willis is teamed with a geek and the perp deletes the file off his phone and the geek explains how it's not really deleted, just lost and proceeds to undelete the files. Or a sting where someone changes some router settings to use a different IP address so that they can get their password. You could still make it dramatic but use things that are real.

  113. Computers are a writer's tool on TV. Nothing else. by Opportunist · · Score: 1

    My all time favorite of really, really crappy computer use in a movie is from German TV. It's a scene from a notoriously bad action series, and unfortunately only available in German (duh, which network would be stupid enough to buy AND dub this crap), but here it is. I think its idiocy is even palpable if you have no idea about the dialogue.

    But as in this example, computers are a neat deus ex machina for writers that managed to write themselves into a corner. Computers can do everything. And your average viewer has no idea what they can or can't really do. Whenever your hero needs access to whatever information, a computer becomes the key to success. Computers can get any video from any camera anywhere (CCTV? Ffffft, it's all on the internet. Or on the CIA/FBI/otherTLA network). They have access to all banking data and allow you to follow every money trail. They give you the whereabouts of your target because ... umm... yeah, we triangulate his cellphone. Somehow.

    It's a bit like the inverted tachion beam in Star Trek. Whenever a deus ex machina is needed, just reverse polarity. Or in lieu of futuretech and technobabble, use a computer.

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  114. Guessing a password IS easy by Locke2005 · · Score: 1

    In all the cases where I "cracked" a password, I simply opened up the employee's desk drawer and read the password off of a post-it note. Got it on the first guess! (Hmm... I currently have a post-it stuck to my monitor with a username/password on it, but at least it's not MY username/password.)

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  115. Hey Kid! by BancBoy · · Score: 1

    I'm a computah!

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  116. Anonymous Coward by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Computers must be controlled with the keyboard"
    You bet they do. Using a mouse is too damn slow

  117. I have also seen smoke coming out of computers by HannethCom · · Score: 1

    Two times where Quantum Fireballs live up to their name. The flyback on one of my monitors blew making a popping sound, then smoke started coming out of the top. I have watched a power line inside the computer glow red hot and ignite it's outer casing. Also smoke suddenly coming from a power supply that had lit on fire internally.

    I was going to say I've never seen a computer spark, but there was this one time that the positioning of variable DC voltage power transformer and a monitor was creating a strong magnetic field. I accidentally dropped the monitor cable onto the outside aluminum case of the transformer and it blew the thin layer of metal off part of the monitor cable creating quite the white light. The VGA plug had a thin layer of metal for some strange reason.

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  118. What does: The DREAM factory mean? by SmallFurryCreature · · Score: 1

    Do people really have some serious problem with the notion of FANTASY? None of these movies or tv-shows that have magic computers are documentaries. Ooh, I have another one. In real life a 30 ton machine making a sky craper leaping on the sidewalk, would go STRAIGHT through it. No just stand there. Oh and it would be collecting its gears in a paper basket, but Transformers failing to reflect this is not a reason to hate it (lousy acting is, anyone else think the movie would have been a whole lot better as pure CGI, no annoying humans to interrupt the action?)

    • 10. Computers explode: well the article already gives the answer, because real life crashing computers are BORING to watch. Movies got to be fun to watch (fantasy ones anyway). Here is another puzzler, in porn the woman always enjoy getting it up the ass with no lube.
    • 9. Passwords are easy to guess: Except when they aren't. It is called story. Either they get in, or they don't. It is like being able to break or kick open a door, sometimes the can't, sometimes they can't. All depends on how the writer wants the story to go. It is a bit like saying you found it unrealistic that the Allies managed to get onto the beaches in Saving Private Ryan. THAT IS THE STORY! What next, argueing that twin suns with a desert planet are not possible? Kinda missing the point. How about this puzzler, the guy no matter how nerdy and old and plain ugly, ALWAYS gets the girl.
    • 8. This guy musn't have watched many movies. Type fast? In Alien the computer itself types even slower then me. And it just look nice to see it like that, it makes something happen and gives slow readers time to read the message. Note that if it ain't important for the audience to read it, the message often isn't displayed at all, so we can instead see the actors reaction. And for added weirdness, car journeys always take either about 10 seconds OR the entire movie. For some reason road movies especially do this last thing a lot. Don't know why.
    • 7. Deleted files are removed from the screen: Yes and? That is what actually happens, if I delete a file with some other means, my file explorer (at least Mac and Dolphin, reflect this life). What is so odd about it? Here is a puzzler, if the story needs to show the hidden emotion of a broken heart, the actor always finds some silly reason to display this to the audience, Keanu Reeves being the notable exception. Actors eh, can never just not show things so we can keep guessing what is happening.
    • 6. Virusses do something visual: Visual stuff on a visual media, say it ain't SO! And in porn the male always comes outside. Do you know why? Yes? Then this the same reason. Next up, the camera zooms in on the actor displaying a significant plot related emotion and some music plays just so that you know something is going on.
    • 5. Computers have to be controlled by the keyboard: Yes, it is called vi. I haven't touched the mouse once while ranting here. It is called being a man. Mouses are for girls.
    • 4. The good guys always use Mac: Yes, we do.
    • 3. You can zoom and enhance any footage: Yes, and security camera footage is often shot by a walking camera that zooms, pans and cuts between camera's. Images can indeed be enhanced but the real process is boring as hell and not very clear at all. It is the same reason NASA releases artists works as being shots of space, rather then the real stuff, because the real stuff doesn't get the juices flowing of anyone except scientists. For another puzzler, the girl the guy gets is always pretty.
    • 2. Screens must light up peoples faces: They do, what you mean is that the screen must be reflected on the persons face. Yes, it is a way of showing something is happening. Hollywood always makes things bigger then life, that is why it is the dream factory. DREAM, larger then life. Shoot a movie in New York and put a fake extra floor on a skyscraper to make it look taller so it looks more real. That is why Hollywood rules the movie industry, because in Europe, nobody could
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  119. Number 9 is true though by ComputerGeek01 · · Score: 1

    Here is how I guess passwords for users. 1st I pretend that I am a completly useless moron and type the first thing that comes to mind if I were that person. 2nd If that doesn't work I pretend that I have a highschool education and try it again. 3rd failing that I look around the desk for a post-it note with the password on it. I don't get it people act like I'm some kind of mystic when I guess their password, and I lose a little more hope for mankinds future.

  120. Keyboard use by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    From TFA:

    Despite the fact that when computers are used in the real world, the keyboard is only used for the occasional shortcut or for actual typing, film and TV characters will only use the keyboard. At stupid speeds.

    I use Emacs, you insensitive clods!

  121. Let's enhance by gregmac · · Score: 1

    Required viewing: Enhance megamix.. of course, the Super Troopers expertly makes fun of the whole concept.

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  122. Better title by Mad-cat · · Score: 1

    I think it's more a case of "Top 10 Things Hollywood thinks audiences think computers can do."

    They aren't *that* stupid. But they think we are.

  123. Re:Computers? Big Deal... by rcamans · · Score: 1

    John Wayne used the same bullets used on JFK...

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  124. Re:Mistaking dramatic license for technical error. by Rutefoot · · Score: 1

    And nobody. Nobody ever says 'goodbye' when hanging up the phone. They usually just end the call after the end of a sentence, giving the person on the other end no warning or no real reason to believe that the conversation has ended. I always like to picture the person on the other end saying something along the lines of :"Hello? Hello?! You jackass, did you just hang up on me? ... Hello?"

  125. Ozymandias by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    To be fair, the password guessing in Watchmen is not really Hollywood's fault. It's how it was written in the comic.

  126. Re:Computers? Big Deal... by Opportunist · · Score: 1

    Not to mention the fact that his sixshooter usually held enough bullets to last at the very least an entire gunfight. Unless it was dramaturgically necessary that he runs out of ammo.

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  127. I used to use that nick in the 1990's/early 2000's by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Clone54321, I spoke to the forums owner at PCReview, where you pursued me in some attempt to online stalk me from this site.

    Grow up.

    We decided to remove your post and now your efforts in trying to stalk me elsewhere online were for nothing on your part. All it needs now is a letter from an attorney and you are toast, get it? Between libeling me here and that?? You must be trying to put yourself in a jail cell... has to be that. That, or you are not sane. You choose.

    In any event, I hope you had fun looking like a "geek angst" ridden fool here on THIS website.

    I mean, lol, just because you badly lost the technical debate on Germany warns against Firefox to its peoples like they did for IE too earlier, but never for Opera.

    (That? I had no issue with that as it's only "techno debate" and Firefox turned up YET ANOTHER security bug while we were in that debate (DOM issue) which proved my point that not only is Opera faster, but also more secure than Firefox)

    However - You tried to then libel me here, repeatedly, and with FAR LESS THAN REPUTABLE SOURCES (lol, Jeremy Reimer and Jay Little got caught email harassing me by their ISP's, had their websites removed from their hosting providers servers for libelling me, impersonating me on their forums, and even making death threats directed my way)

    Grow up, and until you've done some decent things in this science as I have, you're just another dime-a-dozen forums troll on slashdot. Albeit, one that clearly has issues, and one that does NOT respect the law, because in case you don't know it?

    Stalking me to another forums from this one no less? Well...

    APK

  128. Passwords, my pet peeve in Watchmen by hellfire · · Score: 1

    What drives me up a wall is that, no matter how good the Watchmen is as a comic, and how much attention to detail it has, the whole scheme was blown wide open when Nite Owl looked at a book on the desk and guessed the password for a computer that belonged to the alleged smartest man in the world. Give me a break! If you say "well this was 1985" I call BS, because even then good password practices existed then, just not as well known since not everything was password protected or connected to a net. If you say "well maybe he wasn't that smart" and I call BS because he created an intricate plot and executed it successfully so he did have high intellect. If you say he was arrogant, and he was, then why plan so well every other portion of the plan and then leave open this tiny hole? Someone else could have done the same thing and stolen company documents and been far more destructive to the plan.

    My point is that Hollywood isn't the only one who uses this old standby. I love The Watchmen but even that has to have flaws.

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    1. Re:Passwords, my pet peeve in Watchmen by Nighttime · · Score: 1

      There is a theory that Ozymandias deliberately set a weak password.

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  129. Money transfers are done 1 cent at a time by dfcamara · · Score: 1

    ... as if the bank computer as counting the bills (or coins) being transferred from one account to the other.

  130. Critical thinking tests by geek2k5 · · Score: 1

    It would be nice to be able to keep people out of positions where their poor critical thinking faculties can be isolated from the rest of the world. Alas, that is unlikely to happen.

    Perhaps, when it comes to potential jurors facing forensic evidence, there should be tests that attempt to determine the critical thinking abilities of the potential juror and their knowledge of the state of the art of forensics. If they pass the tests, they go into one juror pool. If not, they go into juror pools for trials that don't require forensic evidence.

  131. Re:Clone's ISP will probably be notified is my gue by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    APK, I have absolutely no idea who you are, but I do know this: You and your entire family can all get bent.

  132. You are paranoid & crazy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Seek help. Pls.

    1. Re:You are paranoid & crazy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      He didn't stalk anyone to another forums here though. Clone53421 did. That's not paranoid or crazy.

  133. Hackers got it right! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The movie hackers was totally accurate. Plus it had a young Angelina Jolie, before all the work.

  134. Only "good guys" get Macs? I beg to differ?! by Tak_1 · · Score: 1

    In the silly Christian propaganda scare film "left Behind" the anti-christ is clearly seen using an old "Wallstreet" Powebook.

    So not ALL the good guys use Macs. But then again, that depends on your definition of good guys.

    http://www.normalbobsmith.com/worstmovies/worstmovies_leftbehind.html There is a screen-shot about half way through the review of the evil one cranking up his G3.

    Seriously though, they use Macs because they look great under harsh lighting. Most PC laptops aren't as photogenic under harsh studio lights. Under bright lighs, shiny aluminum is still shiny, and plastic looks like, well plastic.

  135. Re:Mistaking dramatic license for technical error. by Blakey+Rat · · Score: 1

    Do you actually *watch* people typing IMs? I think the vast, vast, vast majority of people just wait for the "ding" and then check what was typed.

    Anyway, I hated that feature. I didn't want people to know how many mistakes I made. Plus, I frequently start typing one IM, decide it's a bad reply for some reason, then delete the whole thing and start over... I don't need other people seeing that.

  136. Re:Computers? Big Deal... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Dood, its a movie! It's all just special effects done by Chuck Norris (yeah they are buddies) who can roundhouse kick people in between frames?

  137. Re:I used to use that nick in the 1990's/early 200 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hey, that’s funny! Because I just noticed that your last post in that thread was deleted.

    You know... the one where you threw a fit over the post before it which basically called you out on your sock-puppetry, spam, and bullshit.

    Yeah, the mods deleted it. Certainly bodes well for your hopes of getting them to tell you the IP address of the person who posted it, so that you can prove that it is the same person as clone53421 on here.

  138. But they don't do it in advance, do they? by Moraelin · · Score: 1

    I see no reason to paint the target with whatever beam they use before actually firing the torpedo, though.

    If nothing else, it already tells the victim where to divert shields / polarize the hull / whatever, or in a less ST scenario to activate the counter-measures or take evasive action. I mean, heck, if I had a dish with the reactor inside the dish like in Enterprise, and I knew those guys pointed a laser at the dish top near the reactor, _I_ would turn so I'm sideways to them and that missile will have the whole dish radius between impact point and reactor.

    And generally, given how hostile a gesture that is (both realistically and in ST whenever it happens), I'm not sure why anyone would want to give the enemy a minute of warning before even deciding if they actually fire that torpedo.

    But, really, such a sensor must be turnable on and off. Or you'd start any first contacts on the awfully wrong foot. Why turn it on in advance?

    If I were to design such a weapon, it would actually be launched programmed to target the enemy by image recognition with an onboard camera. The technology already exists for missiles in this century. Then I'd turn on the painting a given area -- if I really want that -- only when the missile already did 2/3 of the distance on its own. Gives the enemy much less time to react and maneuver.

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  139. Re:Computers? Big Deal... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Substitute John Wayne in for Chuck Norris in any number of Chuck Norris facts and you have your answer

  140. Helpful security systems by geek2k5 · · Score: 1

    Well, there was Mycroft, the computer in "The Moon is a Harsh Mistress" by Robert Heinlein.

    In one scene a list of informants or related information was secured by a password. Manny, the lead character, provided a brief explanation of why they couldn't get the information.

    Mycroft, aka Mike, offered a work around in the form of the necessary password. Mike was, after all, a friend of Manny.

    Of course it helped that the owners of the computer had no idea that the computer had gained sentience as the result of adding more and more hardware capabilities. Manny realized this and was Mike's only friend in the formative years of being 'awake'.

  141. 7 should be 1 by AlgorithMan · · Score: 1

    7. Deleted files are removed from the screen

    This really should be number 1, because you can't count how much is wrong about this...

    I haven't seen

    2. Screens must light up people's faces

    for quite some time...

    to the point where even Internet Explorer's InPrivate browsing would be entirely pointless

    isn't it?

    What I'm missing is

    shooting a monitor destroys all files on the harddisk

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  142. Really? Clones the one stalking me to other forums by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I didn't follow clone53421 to another forums stalking him online. That's plain enough to see. The forums moderator over at PCReview's willing to help me out in this case, so, I am all set that way (he vouched for it, and I have the screenshots of clone doing so as well at this point to prove he did so. Man, lol, that's pretty screwed up on his part, and actually not very smart...).

    Clone53421's just not right in the head, doing that in stalking me around online to other forums, and for what? Because he messed up on a forums post about Firefox? Big deal. I don't understand him, I really do not. Libeling me ontop of it though, that took the cake, and then his following me to other forums as he did in some attempt to discredit me too? Please...)

    APK

    P.S.=> As far as me pointing out clone53421 lowered himself to that level? Hey, I am ONLY pointing out facts. That's all... apk

  143. Ian Cunningham & I deleted clone's posts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    We both have the evidence of it IF I pursue this legally, no point in letting it stay up there. Write Ian Cunningham at PCReview yourself if you like, I am sure he can verify this all (or you can email me for the screenshots of it all).

    Simple.

    I am not the person stalking clone53421 to other forums as he is trying to do and for what? Because I got the better of him on firefox being warned against in Germany? Please.

    APK

    1. Re:Ian Cunningham & I deleted clone's posts by clone53421 · · Score: 1

      Eh? What did you delete? The post that you claim was made by me is still there.

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    2. Re:Ian Cunningham & I deleted clone's posts by Red+Flayer · · Score: 1

      APK,

      Fuck off.

      Seriously. Your bullshit, even if true, has no place on slashdot where it is offtopic, crass, and a distraction to everyone who is a user of slashdot.

      Get your shit together, man. Either fucking sic your lawyers on Clone, and let them deal with it, or shut the fuck up.

      And if you really do have lawyers on retainer who are advising you, I'm sure they'd say the same thing (albeit in different words) as I'm going to say right now:

      You're not doing yourself any favors by continuing your bullshit on slashdot. You don't help any case you could build on past actions, but you do potentially hurt any case you could build.

      Seriously. Get the fuck off slashdot with your threadshitting. I'm sick of seeing your bullshit posts, true or not. Even if you're 100% in the right, you're doing nothing but pissing people off. You have nothing to gain by chasing this white whale of yours.

      Do us all a favor. Do yourself a favor. Stop posting here.

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  144. Re:I used to use that nick in the 1990's/early 200 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    In any event, I hope you had fun looking like a "geek angst" ridden fool here on THIS website.

    As a disinterested observer, I assure you that he's not the one looking that way.

  145. Some love for "The Slow-Motion Picture" by Tetsujin · · Score: 1

    Was it more annoying than watching that borefest of a movie? I swear, nothing ever happens in that whole movie.

    It's known as "The Slow-Motion Picture" for a reason. Still, I am fond of the film for various reasons. It represents the few surviving elements of the "Phase II" show, it is one of the few times when Star Trek both had a decent budget and took a stab at some real "science fiction" (not hard SF, mind you, but at least it was largely dedicated to the idea of exploring and confronting the unknown) - it is a point in time when the original crew, while older, hadn't yet shriveled up entirely... And, of course, it brought us the "Enterprise Refit" - quite possibly the loveliest studio miniature ever constructed... Not to mention the K'Tinga, which got altogether too little appreciation IMO, winding up in the shadow of the "Klingon" Bird of Prey of the later films... Plus there's something about the era that I enjoy... the late-1970s sci-fi films...

    But, yes, large tracts of that movie are dreadfully boring. As a model-maker, I love the Refit Enterprise model - and so I enjoy their extended fly-by sequence of it... But damn is that bit boring if you're not in it for the models. And worse, the original cut had all those klaxons going off all the time, various unfinished effects (wormhole asteroid, for instance? And I'd wager there was a real-world reason why they couldn't use the phasers.) - they say the production wound up rather rushed... which is a shame, because we all know how that played out in the resulting film.

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  146. Re:Mistaking dramatic license for technical error. by Alomex · · Score: 2, Informative

    I was using ICQ back in 1998, and it had the option of displaying each chat character as it was typed.

    This is called naked typing. Google wave has it by default and is very off-putting.

  147. The Bruce Willis effect by Tetsujin · · Score: 1

    2. An explosion with lots of flames can throw a person 500' without injuring them

    I always thought of this as the "Bruce Willis effect" - primarily as a reference to the Die Hard movies. The key thing is the character has to be in the air for this to work. Standing on top of a building when it explodes means you die. Jumping off the building just before the explosion means you live. The fact that jumping only puts you an extra couple feet away doesn't matter - since you are airborne, the force of the explosion simply propels you farther away from danger.

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  148. Forgot cross-platform apps & networking by Yakasha · · Score: 1

    No matter what computer system you're talking about, from ATMs, to the magical window based laptops they have, to alien spacecraft, all computers can talk to each other and all applications will run on all systems.
    Think about Independence Day, Jeff Goldbloom wirelessly installing a virus on the alien's spacecraft that took it down.

  149. War Games by Qaelith_2112 · · Score: 1

    The classic password guessing in the 80s was the one character at a time system as seen on War Games. We're damned fortunate not to have password authentication systems that work like the old "Mastermind" game.

  150. Check your browser cache by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Ian Cunningham told me in Private Messaging he deleted it. I clicked on it now, and it's gone. I took screenshots so if it is up, or down, it doesn't matter because the forums owner can have it back up again in seconds. He removed it afaik though.

    Clone, seriously: What did you stalking me to another forums gain you man? Nothing really, other than your appearing to be stalking me to other forums online from this one!

    APK

    1. Re:Check your browser cache by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So it appears!

      Luckily I took a screenshot of the post before I refreshed the page, though, because even if it was deleted it was certainly true!

      http://j.imagehost.org/0004/untitled_4.png

      I’d like to see the screenshot of the PM that you claim Mr. Cunningham sent you... oh wait, he didn’t.

    2. Re:Check your browser cache by squiggleslash · · Score: 1

      Glad you posted this. I didn't get a chance to see it before it was deleted. Good comment from Clone and I'm not sure why it was deleted.

      BTW, are you going to set your virtual lawyer, you know, the one you said was on retainer, on yourself now that you've posted that? That would help everyone, keep legal fees down and stuff because you already know your own IP address so you will not need the subpoena to obtain it, and identify the person behind it.

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    3. Re:Check your browser cache by squiggleslash · · Score: 1

      Oops, ignore the second paragraph. 99% of the AC posts are from you know who, and I misread it as a result.

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    4. Re:Check your browser cache by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, this is strange. It looks to me like the post is back up. Anybody care to confirm?

      apk says he’s BUSY AS HELL:

      FIRST: What gives you the idea I was stalking you? Buddy - I work, and am finishing off another degree: My days? Are actually BUSY AS HELL - I have things to do (make ca$h, AND, getting another bachelor's degree in CSC (A.A.S. part's done, 92 credits into the 120 towards the bachelors after this semester's done in fact, in CSC to go along with my MIS/B.S. Business too, both related & perfectly along what I do for a living for 16++ yrs. now professionally - Information Systems work (Databasing really)).

      gee you sure could’ve fooled me

  151. 10. When systems go wrong, stuff starts to explode by wisnoskij · · Score: 1

    "10. When systems go wrong, stuff starts to explode"

    I do not know about explode, but I have seen sparks shoot out of a computer when it stopped working.

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  152. Bighashnigg by Bigashnigg · · Score: 1

    Haha this is so funny i laughed so hard when i read this.

  153. Bad Example (V'ger) by wisnoskij · · Score: 1

    "From V'ger in Star Trek the motion picture to Skynet in the Terminator films, Hollywood has this fascination that left turned on for long enough a computer will become sentient."

    V'ger was enhanced by a race of sentient computers, it was not just left on to long.

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  154. Re:Mistaking dramatic license for technical error. by keiofh · · Score: 1

    do you know which IM clients support this? ICQ doesn't seem to have this option anymore and AIM only supports it on windows.

  155. Re:clone admits stalking me from here to elsewhere by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Well, that about does it: You're admitting it was you stalking me from here to another forums then with that reply.

    LOGIC DOES NOT WORK THAT WAY! GOODNIGHT!

  156. 1. Left long enough, a computer becomes intelligen by wisnoskij · · Score: 1

    "This is complete nonsense. Any computer left on permanently would suffer at least a few, if not all, of the following problems: mechanical failure (hard disk, fans, power supply and so on), software crash (operating system falling big time or some other bit of software just failing to work) and overheating due to dust being sucked into the case. The only thing that leaving a computer on will do is get you a massive electricity bill."

    I think this is not necessarily true and especially in the cases the question is referring to it is wrong.
    When you are talking big super computers mechanical parts can be hot swapped and software does not have to degrade over time as it is used. With diligent enough coding of the kernel and the ability to restart the other parts of the OS, this problem can be avoided.

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  157. Re:Really? Clones the one stalking me to other for by squiggleslash · · Score: 1

    *crunch* *crunch* this popcorn is delicious!

    I love the gall of this guy, stalks multiple people on Slashdot for a few days and then accuses one of his victims of "stalking" him because he posted on another forum.

    Please keep going, this is hilarious!

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  158. Re:Mistaking dramatic license for technical error. by d34dluk3 · · Score: 1

    I was using ICQ back in 1998, and it had the option of displaying each chat character as it was typed.

    This is called naked typing. Google wave has it by default and * is very off-putting.

    Your absence of "it" dramatically alters your meaning.

  159. The kind that WANTS to be cracked! by Chris+Burke · · Score: 1

    What kind of security system tells you if you're warm and helps you break in?

    While it may not have been obvious during that scene, certainly by the time Nite Owl and Rorschach confront Ozy in Antarctica it should be clear that Ozy was expecting them, and that the trail of clues they were following was not an accident or oversight on Ozy's part because he wanted them to figure out that he was behind everything and come confront him, getting them out of New York before he set off his psychic squid bomb.

    Oh, and giving him his chance to explain everything and gloat.

    But much like Ozy's speech was an inversion of the stereotypical villain explaining everything -- "Do it? Dan, I'm not a Republic Serial villain. Do you seriously think I'd explain my master-stroke if there remained the slightest chance of you affecting its outcome? I did it thirty-five minutes ago." -- so too was the password breaking an inversion of the stereotypical easily guessed password. In this case, the password was deliberately easy to guess.

    I'm sure his normal system didn't tell you how many characters to use, and his password was probably pa4Le*,xlg or something. ;)

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  160. Re:Mistaking dramatic license for technical error. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    8. Online chats always display each character as its typed..

    I was using ICQ back in 1998, and it had the option of displaying each chat character as it was typed. It meant you could express more complex thoughts, without requiring the other person to sit and wait patiently for you to develop a whole paragraph. It let the other guy step in and say 'I see where you're going, but let me stop you there...'. It opened up opportunities for dramatic timing and deliberate use of backspacing for comedic effect. It was more 'live' than a one-line-at-a-time chat modality, despite its warts. While this style of online chat may not be particularly popular today, it was (and still is) readily available.

    I agree, and iChat still lets me do that

  161. Article is hit and miss by Junior+J.+Junior+III · · Score: 1

    passwords are easily guessable...

    You mean they're not?

    Computers have to be controlled by keyboard... Ditching the mouse does not make anything easier.

    I like mice, but at times I find that keyboard is faster.

    Good Guys always use a Mac.... Hackers more likely to have a Linux computer.

    Uh, they do realize that Mac OS X is a fully certified Unix OS, right? And for that matter, that you can easily run Linux on Mac hardware.

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  162. Veidt's password - on display on the bookshelf by Tetsujin · · Score: 1

    Who didn't use stupid passwords?

    The smartest man in the world might....

    The smartest man in the world who was secretly plotting a world-changing event that entirely hinged on secret to pull it off, one who was perfectly willing to murder all his top staff and confidants and assistants....

    just maybe he might not use a simple alpha-only password based on his very public alter-ego?

    Yeah, based on Veidt's "smartest man in the world" persona (and the fact that, in the story, he does appear to have been smart enough to outmaneuver absolutely everyone) it does seem implausible that he wouldn't be able to choose a password that Dreiburg would be unable to crack.

    So does one take this as a plot hole, or assume that Veidt intentionally gave Dreiburg a puzzle he'd be able to solve?

    Many of Veidt's maneuverings prior to the confrontation in Antarctica had to do with keeping Kovacs, Dreiburg, and especially Osterman out of his way long enough for him to complete his plan. Once he was sure he couldn't be stopped, there was just the matter of secrecy, and of easing his own conscience. So leaving a trail for Dreiburg to follow would be a way to keep him occupied, to make sure he wasn't killed by the psychic trauma/exploding reactors, give Veidt a potential confidant and the opportunity to kill him off if it seemed like he couldn't be counted on to keep the secret.

    Granting that assumption - that the weak password was an intentional choice - is perhaps a bit generous... So I wouldn't reject the idea that the whole thing is simply a plot hole. Still, I think it makes a certain amount of sense. Veidt was almost impossibly formidable, and very confident as well. (And, given his ultimate failure to stop Kovacs getting information out, overconfident...) He was also troubled by a guilty conscience and in need of validation - so it wouldn't be out of character for him to seek a potential confidant - given how sure he was of his ability to manipulate people, he probably believed he could do this without endangering his plan...

    (Oh, and Morgan Freeman's character was named "Lucius Fox"...)

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  163. Ghost in Shell has androids with 20 finger typing by George_Ou · · Score: 1

    Ever wonder why all the android workers in Ghost in the Shell have 20 fingers for speed typing? Wouldn't a USB or BlueTooth interface be faster?

  164. Re:Mistaking dramatic license for technical error. by spire3661 · · Score: 1

    I had totally forgotten about that feature of ICQ. It really was very nice.

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  165. Re:To be fair, Ozymandias' password was in the com by Bugamn · · Score: 1

    Or maybe the smartest man in the world wanted the computer to be cracked.

    Or maybe he never thought someone would try it.

  166. Re:Mistaking dramatic license for technical error. by nameer · · Score: 1

    Ntalk had this before we even knew to call it IM (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk_%28software%29).

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  167. Wait... by psykocrime · · Score: 1

    > The only thing that leaving a computer on will do is get you a massive electricity bill.

    So you're telling me that the sentient AI that I've been growing in my basement for the past 15 years.. isn't?

    Well, f%!# me.... :-(

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  168. It's storytelling. by b4dc0d3r · · Score: 1

    The computer graphics are simply storytelling. They are advancing the plot. A facial recognition program always displays the subject and the comparison photos, despite the additional overhead that could be better used for searching. Plus, the searches should be done remotely, so we wouldn't even have access - upload and wait for a "job finished" message.

    They are trying to graphically illustrate what the internals of the computer are doing. To most people, computers are magic anyway, so who cares if it's realistic magic or unrealistic?

    I didn't read the other 5 pages of comments, but the first page was just "writers are so dumb" so I stopped. Sorry if it's a dupe, hopefully I'm not the only person to apply critical thinking and come up with a reasonable explanation.

  169. Terminator 2 - Atari Laptop by BigSes · · Score: 1

    When I was a kid, I thought the young John Connor hacking ATMs and locked keypad doors was the coolest thing ever on that Atari laptop-type thing he had going. They made it seem feasible enough, just seemed to pound away random numbers until it hit the code. However, IIRC, it "locked" numbers into a final code when it hit them correctly. That seemed dubious. Oh wait, the whole movie did!

  170. Re:Computers? Big Deal... by Scrameustache · · Score: 1

    When John Wayne fired a gun, at least two Indians dropped instantly. *At least* two. You can keep those computers, I want to better understand the technology behind The Duke's bullets...

    The gunshot was just coincidental, what brought them down was his musky scent.

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  171. Avatar stuff by Tetsujin · · Score: 1

    if you're going to go that far, then why didn't these satellites also have nukes or lasers to eliminate indigenous problems with also?

    First, orbital weapons are more expensive than satellites that just run a clock and broadcast the time. (Remember this was a commercial operation...)

    Second, at the start of the film the Na'vi were treated as dangerous but not as a major threat. The situation hadn't broken down into all-out war yet, and there was still some discussion of finding more-or-less peaceful resolution to the conflict. So the characters could have felt such weaponry simply wasn't called for (i.e. the cost of it wasn't justified) - so they wouldn't have orbital weapons platforms for the same reason they didn't have bombers.

    But going back up the thread a bit - the basic question was why the avatars, being so valuable, didn't have some sort of lo-jack system via GPS. The answer to that isn't "because there's no GPS satellites" - because it would be a relatively simple and inexpensive process to deploy some.

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  172. A Strange Game by ffflala · · Score: 1

    It seems the only winning move is not to rtfa.

  173. The alternative by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The alternative is realty TV. I'd rather be frsutrated with inaccuracy thatn have to watch so you think you can dance.

  174. Re:Mistaking dramatic license for technical error. by Michael+Woodhams · · Score: 1

    "Online chats always display each character as its typed."

    This was completely standard 25 years ago, when the closest thing to IM was the Unix 'talk' command.

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  175. Re:Computers? Big Deal... by ignavus · · Score: 1

    When John Wayne fired a gun, at least two Indians dropped instantly. *At least* two. You can keep those computers, I want to better understand the technology behind The Duke's bullets...

    Mad magazine did a great spoof of this many years ago.

    They were advertising surplus Hollywood "Western" props. Things like "shotgun - when fired by little old lady with eyes closed and pointing gun 45 degrees in the air, will hit an Indian riding fast on horseback 500 feet away". Another was "Indian horses, guaranteed to fall down on front legs every ten paces" and "Six shooter - fires eleven rounds without reloading".

    Well, that's how I remembered it.

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  176. Re:Real Time Text chat by Bambi+Dee · · Score: 1

    I'm sorry if this is a stupid question, but in what way is it a boon to the deaf community? I don't get it.

  177. Write that forums mod then, quit talking by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You talk a lot, but not much for action. Write that forums mod then. Oh wait, I forgot something. Email's too much for you.

  178. SquiggleNobody, the armchair quarterback! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Keep "living up to your image" SquiggleNobody, and keep that popcorn coming (as it's about all you are good for, lol!). The guy appears to only have defended himself so well, that you little armchair talk a lot done nothing nobodies here are all in an uproar and that's what's really hilarious! Lmao, he sure knew how to "push your buttons" now, didn't he? Rotflmao. The wannabe geeks around here sure talk a good game, but when it came down to him asking any of you if you'd done anything of note in the field of computers? It certainly was hilarious watching you all "go silent", and everytime he confronts you nobodies with that simple question. Oh, "geek angst": You're all victims of it.

    1. Re:SquiggleNobody, the armchair quarterback! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh please continue! You are hilarious!

      Let's see: you've accused me of writing malware, when in fact numerous anti-malware groups have actually listed YOUR tools as malware.

      You've accused Clone of "stalking", when in fact you've been stalking him for several days, replying to virtually every comment he makes on any subject over, and over, and over again, with a collection of insults, threats, and absurd justifications.

      And, of course, this isn't the first time you've accused virtually all of us of "achieving nothing", when actually you've never heard of any of us, and the only thing you have to your name is a snake-oil anti-virus solution.

      Please go on. What are you going to accuse us of next? Hey, I know, what about posting made up allegations about people?

  179. The app's classified with zero threat levels by CA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Ask Nir Sofer or Dr. Mark Russinovich of Microsoft if their wares have been also classifed that way by antivirus or antispyware companies. Of course, now I can ask you what was asked of you before:

    What ware have you ever done that did as well as that ac apk has done? He produced this list:

    Windows NT Magazine (now Windows IT Pro) April 1997 "BACK OFFICE PERFORMANCE" issue, page 61

    (&, for work done for EEC Systems/SuperSpeed.com on PAID CONTRACT (writing portions of their SuperCache program increasing its performance by up to 40% via my work) albeit, for their SuperDisk & HOW TO APPLY IT, took them to a finalist position @ MS Tech Ed, two years in a row 2000-2002, in its HARDEST CATEGORY: SQLServer Performance Enhancement).

    WINDOWS MAGAZINE, 1997, "Top Freeware & Shareware of the Year" issue page 210, #1/first entry in fact (my work is there)

    PC-WELT FEB 1998 - page 84, again, my work is featured there

    WINDOWS MAGAZINE, WINTER 1998 - page 92, insert section, MUST HAVE WARES, my work is again, there

    PC-WELT FEB 1999 - page 83, again, my work is featured there

    CHIP Magazine 7/99 - page 100, my work is there

    GERMAN PC BOOK, Data Becker publisher "PC Aufrusten und Repairen" 2000, where my work is contained in it

    HOT SHAREWARE Numero 46 issue, pg. 54 (PC ware mag from Spain), 2001 my work is there, first one featured, yet again!

    Also, a British PC Mag in 2002 for many utilities I wrote, saw it @ BORDERS BOOKS but didn't buy it... by that point, I had moved onto other areas in this field besides coding only...

    Lastly, being paid for an article that made me money over @ PCPitstop in 2008 for writing up a guide that has people showing NO VIRUSES/SPYWARES & other screwups, via following its point, such as THRONKA sees here -> http://www.xtremepccentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=ee926d913b81bf6d63c3c7372fd2a24c&t=28430&page=3 [xtremepccentral.com]

    Have you done anything like it, as many times and in as many respected publications as consistently over time?

    No, of course not: Clearly, You're another done nothing slacker nobody that dwells on slashdot forums and "talks a game" but not even a good one. Answer that question I just asked, won't you (watch the standard evasion of that question, it's always hilarious).

  180. SquiggleNothing: The armchair quarterback, lol! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    SquiggleNothing: You sure talk a lot, but when you were asked if you have a degree in the computer sciences, it was awfully funny watching you RUN (run, squigglenobody - run!) lol! The day you can show you've done anything like this list that ac apk put up, is the day you can finally relinquish your title as "King of the ARMCHAIR QUARTERBACKS AT SLASHDOT" lol:

    Done anything like this list SquiggleNothing? That ac apk has:

    Ask Nir Sofer or Dr. Mark Russinovich of Microsoft if their wares have been also classifed that way by antivirus or antispyware companies. Of course, now I can ask you what was asked of you before:

    What ware have you ever done that did as well as that ac apk has done? He produced this list:

    Windows NT Magazine (now Windows IT Pro) April 1997 "BACK OFFICE PERFORMANCE" issue, page 61

    (&, for work done for EEC Systems/SuperSpeed.com on PAID CONTRACT (writing portions of their SuperCache program increasing its performance by up to 40% via my work) albeit, for their SuperDisk & HOW TO APPLY IT, took them to a finalist position @ MS Tech Ed, two years in a row 2000-2002, in its HARDEST CATEGORY: SQLServer Performance Enhancement).

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    WINDOWS MAGAZINE, 1997, "Top Freeware & Shareware of the Year" issue page 210, #1/first entry in fact (my work is there)

    PC-WELT FEB 1998 - page 84, again, my work is featured there

    WINDOWS MAGAZINE, WINTER 1998 - page 92, insert section, MUST HAVE WARES, my work is again, there

    PC-WELT FEB 1999 - page 83, again, my work is featured there

    CHIP Magazine 7/99 - page 100, my work is there

    GERMAN PC BOOK, Data Becker publisher "PC Aufrusten und Repairen" 2000, where my work is contained in it

    HOT SHAREWARE Numero 46 issue, pg. 54 (PC ware mag from Spain), 2001 my work is there, first one featured, yet again!

    Also, a British PC Mag in 2002 for many utilities I wrote, saw it @ BORDERS BOOKS but didn't buy it... by that point, I had moved onto other areas in this field besides coding only...

    Lastly, being paid for an article that made me money over @ PCPitstop in 2008 for writing up a guide that has people showing NO VIRUSES/SPYWARES & other screwups, via following its point, such as THRONKA sees here -> http://www.xtremepccentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=ee926d913b81bf6d63c3c7372fd2a24c&t=28430&page=3

    ***

    ANSWER US 2 QUESTIONS SQUIGGLENOBODY:

    1.) Have you done anything like that in computers, like that list above, as many times and in as many respected publications as consistently over time?

    2.) Do you actually have a CIS or CSC degree to your credit/name, SquiggleNobody?

    No, and No, will be his answers (of course, he'll avoid those 2 questions to NO end, as per usual, lol!)

    No, of course not: Clearly, You're another done nothing slacker nobody that dwells on slashdot forums and "talks a game" but not even a good one. Answer that question I just asked, won't you (watch the standard evasion of that question, it's always hilarious).

  181. Do you have a CIS or CSC degree? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    No. You couldn't write a decent computer program if your life depended on it, and you know it. Lots of talk armchair quarterback, but no proofs you can produce. We all know the type. Answer the question above now, quit avoiding it (the truth hurts, but it can only hurt once, armchair qb (lol))

    1. Re:Do you have a CIS or CSC degree? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Another gem! You're accusing me of not being able to write a decent computer system (whatever that is), but your software is so awful it ends up being classified as malware by a large proportion of the anti-malware community.

      Keep digging!

  182. LOL, taken a course in the philosophy of logic? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Well, have you? I doubt it. Do you even have a CSC or CIS degree to your credit?? I've never actually seen one with "anonymous coward" on its face, so, it'd be a first to see you with one, lmao!

  183. Further proof of you illiteracy is not required by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See subject. Watching you gossipy little weasels "conspire" here http://slashdot.org/~squiggleslash is even more hilarious, rotflmao! I loved your quote about "making friends" because nobody who actually has done things in this science that did well (like get a CIS or CSC degree, you know the one(s) you don't have to your name wannabe?) wouldn't want nobodies like you, for a friend. You're just an armchair quarterback that has to "operate in a pack" because individually, you and your little beyotch friends are typical gossiping beyotches, and deep down inside, you know it. Hell, we all do now after seeing your little "sewing circle" above, lmao!

  184. Nobody obeys your orders boy, get over it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Ah, You "yell and scream" in your playpen until you mama brings you a bottle (lmao, spiked with Jack Daniels no doubt since birth, just so she can shut you up, lol!) but, you do not own this place so you can stop trying to command everyone, Oh powerless one! LMAO!

  185. Look everyone: Another "armchair quarterback" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See subject above.

  186. You know you're not an attorney, don't you? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    LMAO, see subject above.

  187. Re:Mistaking dramatic license for technical error. by Idarubicin · · Score: 1

    If you can't make 30 seconds of someone typing look interesting, just show us five seconds and let our brains fill in the gaps, don't turn his wordprocessor into an environment that does advanced speech recognition and renders his musings as 3D representations.

    Your criticism would be entirely apt if the article's complaint (and my subsequent comment) had anything to do with speech recognition or silly 3D rendering.

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  188. Re:The app's classified with zero threat levels by by gmhowell · · Score: 1

    Have you accomplished anything in the past 8 years, or are you still living on past glories like some pathetic high school athlete who is now pumping gas at the local Shell station?

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  189. Re:To be fair, Ozymandias' password was in the com by dwye · · Score: 1

    > What kind of security system tells you if you're warm and helps you break in?

    Supposedly, the original DEC-20 password system used the same command completion as its command line. Type a character, hit escape, and if it matches, the password was completed for you, and not in hidden text like when you entered it the hard way. A friend claimed to have worked on a project to harden the OS, and amazingly that was not the first thing that they found or fixed (I didn't work on the project, so I can only assume that he wasn't kidding).

  190. Already got it from Nat by Secret+Rabbit · · Score: 1

    Nat already did a humorous look this:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIX9NjpRWMg

  191. Two main problems by dugeen · · Score: 1

    In no.10, it's possible that stuff might explode because its temperature, or power input etc, might have been controlled by the no-longer-existent computer. And no.1 is a bit narrow-minded, it's like writing in 1840 that powered flight would never be possible because a sufficiently powerful steam engine could never be made small enough. Maybe computers centuries hence just might not have hard drives, fans etc?

  192. Show us all proof that you actually have then by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Prove that you've actually written a ware for these fantasy companies you speak of then. Why is it you keep avoiding that? Perhaps because you have not and you are lying?

    1. Re:Show us all proof that you actually have then by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Keep digging beardless wonder! As I've said before, even if I was a half-naked cheeto-dust covered guy in a library right now, I'd still be better qualified than you! Indeed all your critics would be. Hell, I bet Betty White would beat you at a game of Unreal Tournament.

      Let's do a comparison shall we?

      Has written software generally considered Malware?
      Clone: No
      Squiggleslash: No
      Tom Hudson: No
      Red Flayer: No
      GMHowell: No
      Alexander Peter Kowalski: YES

      Failed English language courses at school? (Or should have done, given inability to spell or use standard English grammar)
      Clone: No
      Squiggleslash: No
      Tom Hudson: No
      Red Flayer: No
      GMHowell: No
      Alexander Peter Kowalski: YES

      Harasses critics?
      Clone: No
      Squiggleslash: No
      Tom Hudson: No
      Red Flayer: No
      GMHowell: No
      Alexander Peter Kowalski: YES

      Promotes bogus "anti-virus" scheme that by own admission doesn't work and lulls users into false sense of security?
      Clone: No
      Squiggleslash: No
      Tom Hudson: No
      Red Flayer: No
      GMHowell: No
      Alexander Peter Kowalski: YES

      Is unable to make friends in real life and uses sock-puppets instead?
      Clone: No
      Squiggleslash: No
      Tom Hudson: No
      Red Flayer: No
      GMHowell: No
      Alexander Peter Kowalski: YES

      Unable to get a real, paying, job and forced to sell self-written crapware instead?
      Clone: No
      Squiggleslash: No
      Tom Hudson: No
      Red Flayer: No
      GMHowell: No
      Alexander Peter Kowalski: YES

      Lifelong open misogyny leading to lifelong virginity?
      Clone: No
      Squiggleslash: No
      Tom Hudson: No
      Red Flayer: No
      GMHowell: No
      Alexander Peter Kowalski: YES

      As you can see, when it comes to NEGATIVE QUALIFICATIONS, you're beating everyone. Which is why virtually everyone is more qualified to talk on these subjects than you are.

      So if I were you, I'd shut the hell up and go home. You've lost. That's why the list of people who are responding to your crapfloods telling you to go jump yourself is rapidly increasing.

  193. Re:The app's classified with zero threat levels by by squiggleslash · · Score: 1

    Ask Nir Sofer or Dr. Mark Russinovich of Microsoft if their wares have been also classifed that way by antivirus or antispyware companies. Of course, now I can ask you what was asked of you before:

    And I'll repeat the same answers. Your software wasn't fleetingly classified as malware, it still is classified as malware, and has been, from what I can figure out, for several years. It continues to be so long after you've made legal threats to those same organizations.

    And my privacy being what it is, no I'm not going to list every single application I've developed, magazine article I've had published, or anything similar, but I will point out, again, that I no more need to write malware and write articles promoting snake-oil solutions to viruses to criticize your stalking and harassment of your critics, than Jon Stewart needs to run a major, corrupt, corporation in order to criticize Kenneth Lay.

    My comments, and the comments of others here, stand by themselves. I have no idea whether you're too stupid to understand that concept (which seems possible, because if you're to be taken at face value then you've gone about defending yourself against some great slight to your reputation in the most inanely stupid way possible), or whether you're just trying to stir the pot even further, but the people reading this are listening to what's being said, not taking sides based upon who they think has the better qualifications; but even if they did think the way you're claiming to think, and did this through some superficial claim of qualifications, engaging in a kind of ad-hominem reading/comprehension system, they'd still be taking the side of those you're harassing, because it's a choice between someone whose qualifications are "unknown" (though Tom has actually been fairly public about his legal experience and success with the legal system), and someone who has software classified as malware to their name, and who's written articles promoting evidently idiotic solutions to virus protection online. They'd trust Jon Stewart over Kenneth Lay.

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  194. Encryption by kwerle · · Score: 1

    The notion that encryption is crackable bugs the hell outta me.

  195. "Sir Talk A Lot" (squiggleslash) struck speechless by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    squiggleslash sure talks a lot, until you ask him if he has a degree in computer sciences and also when you ask him to prove existence of programs he says he has written, lol, but we all know he does not actually have or done for anyone (let alone have them rated well):

    http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1640368&cid=32096038

    http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1640368&cid=32096066

    http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1640368&cid=32096094

    http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1640368&cid=32096232

    Sure a lot of mod downs though, so keep blowing your mod point, "Sir Talk A Lot" (LMAO). You're doing a wonderful job of showing everyone here just how "expert" (not) you are in computers, you ne'er do well squiggleslash.

  196. Override! by joeslugg · · Score: 1

    "Can you access the main system memory banks? We need to get to those files!"

    "I'm trying, but it's protected by a security code. I'm attempting to override..."
    (tappity-tap-tap)

    "Got it! OK, we're in the system. Patching through to the satellite..."

  197. Say it aint so Sir Talk A Lot (LMAO) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    squiggleslash sure talks a lot, until you ask him if he has a degree in computer sciences and also when you ask him to prove existence of programs he says he has written, lol, but we all know he does not actually have or done for anyone (let alone have them rated well):

    http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1640368&cid=32096038

    http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1640368&cid=32096066

    http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1640368&cid=32096094

    http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1640368&cid=32096232

    Sure a lot of mod downs though, so keep blowing your mod points there, "Sir Talk A Lot" (LMAO). You're doing a wonderful job of showing everyone here just how "expert" (not) you are in computers, you ne'er do well squiggleslash.

  198. This is supposed to be news. by DaVince21 · · Score: 1

    I hate that this page splits into multiple pages. Very lame.

    Please leave unrelated personal opinions out of the article...

    --
    I am not devoid of humor.
  199. What could possibly go wrong? by MediaCastleX · · Score: 1

    I really can't agree with number one of this list on *one* thing. Right, a single personal computer could not be left on for that long without problems, but most of the "suddenly-sentient" systems in movies are something akin to servers and data centers and they have all sorts of redundancy, along with tons of other stuff to allow them to keep running. Add to the fact that most of the BS fiction has these systems running some sort of "special" programs that somehow, metaphorically speaking, allows them to grow a brain...I'm not saying these things aren't ridiculous, just get your argument right.

  200. squiggleslash why are you avoiding answering? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why are you avoiding answering if you have a CSC or CIS degree or not? Is it because your obviously not being in possession of one to your name would show you're no expert to listen to as an authority on the subject of computing perhaps, squiggleslash? Sure it is.

    1. Re:squiggleslash why are you avoiding answering? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      My comments, and the comments of others here, stand by themselves. I have no idea whether you're too stupid to understand that concept (which seems possible, because if you're to be taken at face value then you've gone about defending yourself against some great slight to your reputation in the most inanely stupid way possible), or whether you're just trying to stir the pot even further, but the people reading this are listening to what's being said, not taking sides based upon who they think has the better qualifications; but even if they did think the way you're claiming to think, and did this through some superficial claim of qualifications, engaging in a kind of ad-hominem reading/comprehension system, they'd still be taking the side of those you're harassing, because it's a choice between someone whose qualifications are "unknown" (though Tom has actually been fairly public about his legal experience and success with the legal system), and someone who has software classified as malware to their name, and who's written articles promoting evidently idiotic solutions to virus protection online. They'd trust Jon Stewart over Kenneth Lay.

  201. Re:Computers? Big Deal... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Actually, the Duke had a 74 shooter. They used cap guns in Hollywood in the 30's through 60's. That's why they never had to reload during the Indian attacks. Notice that the revolvers didn't revolve when fired. Also, the Indian tribe with about 40 members could loose about 200 warriors, and still have enough left to surround the wagon train.

    Computers aren't the only thing Hollywood doesn't get.

    My personal favorite is in Avatar, where every animal form on the planet seems to have 6 limbs, but the Humanoids have only 4. Why???

  202. Re:squigglenobody = another /. "ne'er do well" tal by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Spent the morning touring a company that's trying to headhunt me, so my sincerest (that's sarcasm) apologies for not responding to your questions earlier, but I suggest you read the answers I've already given.

    As I said before, not only is that personal information, but even if I had never seen the inside of a school, was unemployed and spent all day in the library half naked and covered in cheeto dust, I'd still be a better person than you, given that I haven't written software considered malware by many anti-malware organizations, given that I haven't written guides proposing snake-oil solutions to virus protection, and given that I don't stalk people who have suggested that you might be dealing with criticisms the wrong way.

    That's the problem here. Even zero qualifications are better than negative qualifications. Jon Stewart, as I've said before, has the right to make fun of Kenneth Lay. I have the right to make fun of you. In fact, my grandmother has the right to make fun of you, and she died before the Altair 8800 was even invented.

  203. Re:gmhowell: The no CSC or CIS degree "expert" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Oh look, it's the troll that's been stalking Clone53421, Squiggleslash, GM Howell, and Tom Hudson.

    For those new to this, the troll is someone claiming to be a defender of a certain Alexander Peter Kowalski, the author of a tool, apkapp2backgrounddaemonprocessengine, generally considered malware by a large number of anti-malware companies and organizations.

    CA
    PestPatrol
    SpywareDB ("Dangerous!")
    Freedom Anti-Spyware
    Spycheck (Spanish-language) - "Recomendacion: DESACTIVAR Y ELIMINAR"
    Spyware No-More ("Threat risk: High risk", "Advice: Remove This is a very high risk threat and should be removed immediately as to prevent harm to your computer and / or to protect your privacy")

    Mr Kowalski, or his admirer, got upset because someone had the audacity to link to a threat describing Kowalski's attempts to remove some embarrassing comments posted under his name. Rather than deal with it maturely, this person has been attempting to stalk said poster and those who pointed out Kowalski wasn't doing himself any favors.

    So if you see these comments posted as replies to clone, squiggleslash, gmhowell, or Tom, now you know why they're appearing. And if you feel like joining in, making it clear to Mr Kowalski that spamming, sliming, and stalking are unacceptable, well, come on in, the water's lovely!

  204. squiggle's now replying as AC to avoid answering by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Do you have a degree in CSC or CIS squiggleslash? No?? We thought not. You're by no means an expert to comment on anything in the art and sciences of computing then.

  205. squiggle's now replying as AC to avoid answering by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Do you have a degree in CSC or CIS squiggleslash? No?? We thought not. You're by no means an expert to comment on anything in the art and sciences of computing then!

  206. squiggle's replying as AC now to avoid answering by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Do you have a degree in CSC or CIS squiggleslash? No?? We thought not. You're by no means an expert to comment on anything in the art and sciences of computing then. The same things you note have happened to others that write good softwares, such as Dr. Mark Russinovich of Microsoft even and also Nir Sofer of Nirsoft, to name only a couple. Your lack of expertise is showing itself squiggleslash. Go get a degree and then get back to us, because until then? Your credibility as an expert is non-existent.

  207. squiggle's now replying as AC to avoid answering by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Do you have a degree in CSC or CIS squiggleslash? No?? We thought not. You're by no means an expert to comment on anything in the art and sciences of computing then. The same things you note have happened to others that write good softwares, such as Dr. Mark Russinovich of Microsoft even and also Nir Sofer of Nirsoft, to name only a couple. Your lack of expertise is showing itself squiggleslash. APK's program passed all 21 points of CA's test if a program is a malware (and according to their test, it literally is not, because it passed all 21 points) and has zero threat levels ratings by CA. Go get a degree and then get back to us, because until then? Your credibility as an expert is non-existent and your avoidance of answering a simple question just says it all.

  208. copypasta code does not equal a degree by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why are you avoiding answering if you have a degree in CSC or CIS? Because you don't have one and all you do is rip code from the internet to use?? Absolutely.

    1. Re:copypasta code does not equal a degree by clone52431 · · Score: 1

      You are accusing me of plagiarism? Aww, apk, don’t you know that you have to post a link showing that the code isn’t original? If it’s copypasta you have to show where it came from.

      --
      Distributed Denial of APK: It takes 15 seconds to reply to him anonymously, but wastes tons of his time if we all do it.
  209. RedDoucheNozzle, do you have a CSC or CIS degree? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See subject, answer the question. Additionally, do you own this forums? Are you a moderator here?? Are you even on topic??? Clone's the one who said he would get his "legal options" involved, so where are they??? Perhaps he won't try to do so because he libeled someone here first, and trolled them first also???? See here for proof of that much and this quote from it in response to your own words quoted above it:

    "Either fucking sic your lawyers on Clone, and let them deal with it, or shut the fuck up." - by Red Flayer (890720)
    on Tuesday May 04, @03:29PM (#32089624)

    Why don't you tell that to clone53421 instead, because this is he making those types of allegations and threats, here:

    http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1591778&cid=31746938

    "if you choose to continue to harass me I will be forced to pursue my legal options." - by clone53421 (1310749)
    on Tuesday April 06, @08:59AM (#31746938) Journal

    So much for RedDoucheNozzle.

  210. Re:RedDoucheNozzle, do you have a CSC or CIS degre by Red+Flayer · · Score: 1
    Dude, you're insane. Get some professional help.

    See subject, answer the question.

    Irrelevant.

    Additionally, do you own this forums?

    Irrelevant. I'm a member of the community here.

    Are you a moderator here??

    Yes.

    Are you even on topic???

    No less than your post was, and I said something I felt it was important to say.

    Clone's the one who said he would get his "legal options" involved, so where are they??? Perhaps he won't try to do so because he libeled someone here first, and trolled them first also????

    Let it go, man, let it go. Clone's not the one I see stalking users of slashdot and bringing in the off-topic tripe on every post. You're the one I see doing that. You did it to me because you didn't like what I had to say. You're obviously not mature enough to handle regular discussion.

    "if you choose to continue to harass me I will be forced to pursue my legal options." - by clone53421 (1310749) on Tuesday April 06, @08:59AM (#31746938) Journal

    I've read several of the exchanges. It's clear to me you went there first.

    I swear, I know eight-year-olds who are more mature than you. Let it go, man, let it go. I don't give a flying fuck about your argument with Clone. What I do give a fuck about is you threadshitting all over the place. I thought this time I'd respond to one of your posts since I'm sick of using my mod points on your crapfloods.

    --
    "Trolls they were, but filled with the evil will of their master: a fell race..." -- J.R.R. Tolkien on Olog-hai
  211. A fine showing by "the powerless moderator" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So you have no degree in the sciences of computing, thus you're no expert (unless you think so and self-title yourself that). You do not own this website, and yet you see fit to dispense orders. You now admit you are also off topic. I see that clone came into a thread where apk posted and libeled he first, here http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1591778&cid=31581472 and when clone53421 was shown in error, he began name calling (the sign of the frustrated and defeated in debate, and sign of "geek angst" lol) and libeling as well. You said apk did so first? Wake up, learn to read and look at links posted here, because that was only 1 of 3 places clone53421 trolled and libeled apk at on this forums when this all started. Above all else, mod or not? You're powerless to stop me from showing what really transpired here and what the truth really is. Great showing by a "slashdot moderator", and one with no degree in computer sciences to boot.

    1. Re:A fine showing by "the powerless moderator" by Red+Flayer · · Score: 1

      What's your point?

      That you have an axe to grind?

      I couldn't care less about your argument with Clone. I really don't give two shits about who did what first. I don't care who started it.

      You're not getting anything accomplished here. So why bother?

      --
      "Trolls they were, but filled with the evil will of their master: a fell race..." -- J.R.R. Tolkien on Olog-hai
  212. Red, do you have a PHD in psychiatry? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See subject, and have you performed a formal evaluation in professional settings in order to libel others and call them insane etc.? Without a license to practice psychiatry, and having performed a formal evaluation on the individuals being libeled by you thus, it constitutes libel. You suggest professonal help? Don't try to give it, you're as unqualified to do so as you are on your statements in the computer sciences, politics, legal, or medical fields as well.

    You are also shown as incorrect on clone53421, because in the postings with the topic "prepare to be corrected" you are in today, there's clear evidence of who started up with whom.

    clone53421 did here http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1638236&cid=32111466 and when he was found incorrect on Opera being not only faster than Firefox, but also that Firefox showed 3 security vulnerability errors in 1 week's time and Opera had none of the same, clone53421 then began throwing names at the ac apk and libeling he also).

    The "odd part" (not) is that when clone53421 was losing badly, and when another security error showed its face in firefox? The mods here shut that thread in ONLY 12 DAYS TIME (far earlier than usual, which is typically more than 2 weeks open thread posting for discussions), before apk or anyone could show that Firefox had yet another security issue in 1 week's time (Considering also that timothy the article poster also wrote that the FF team would issue a fix for FF 3.6 later last month, and did instead the next day, issuing FF 3.6.2, and then having to issue 3.6.3 for the DOM security issue that also surfaced in the timeframe of that article here too, showing clone53421 is in massive error trying to state that Firefox is as secure as, or moreso, than Opera is).

    Since you state you are a moderator here, do a better job of it, and learn who is in the right and in the wrong, first, before you go defend the ones who started the troubles.

    1. Re:Red, do you have a PHD in psychiatry? by Red+Flayer · · Score: 1
      Why do you insist on putting part of your comment in the subject line of your posts? That's bad form.

      Does it matter if I have a degree in psychiatry? I believe you are insane. Whether or not you consider my opinion to be valid is a different story. The reason I believe you are insane is because you keep repeating the same actions, somehow expecting the outcome to be different. Whether the general public would consider my assertion that you are insane to be fact is also different.

      Without a license to practice psychiatry, and having performed a formal evaluation on the individuals being libeled by you thus, it constitutes libel

      Maybe you need a lawyer, since you are not aware of what conditions are necessary to support a tortuous claim of libel.

      There is no way I could be libeling you. One cannot libel an anonymous figure.

      Since you state you are a moderator here, do a better job of it, and learn who is in the right and in the wrong, first, before you go defend the ones who started the troubles.

      You mistake what I have the issue with. I don't care what happened between you and Clone. Really. Your stupid links aren't going to make me care. Nothing you can post will make me care. My intent was not to defend Clone. My intent has been, all along, to make you aware that you're annoying, and that it pisses me off, and to ask/tell you to stop. Really, you're like an immature eight-year-old. "Waaah waah waah he started it". Grow up. Get some help. Drink a beer, take a pill, or smoke some weed, if that's what it takes. Chill out dude.

      I was hoping that you'd get the point, and shut the fuck up. Oh well, I guess you're either too wound up, or too obtuse, to understand that I really don't care about you or your arguments. I'm just sick of seeing them, which is why I posted.

      Now that I've reiterated it for the nth time, you should get it. But I fully expect you to make another ridiculous post where you try to defend your actions by linking to some post by some other anonymous figure I don't care about. Really, I don't care who wrote what or when they did it. I just want you to understand that, regardless of anyone else's behavior, your behavior is a shitty way to participate in an online community.

      --
      "Trolls they were, but filled with the evil will of their master: a fell race..." -- J.R.R. Tolkien on Olog-hai
    2. Re:Red, do you have a PHD in psychiatry? by squiggleslash · · Score: 1

      I don't think that's going to happen. I just followed a link presumably posted by clone, clicked on Parent a few times, and got to this.

      It looks like exactly the same thing we've been tracking here: the bogus legal threats, the spamming of testimonials, the demands critics prove they have arbitrary qualifications... and it's from one month ago, from what I can figure out from an entirely unrelated argument.

      I waded into this a few days ago, tried a different tack to get APK to behave normally (well, my first few comments were constructive, now I'm trying to make it clear he's causing information about his more dubious activities to be spread further if he continues this), but I'm having no luck either. The man is either stupid, or psychotic.

      --
      You are not alone. This is not normal. None of this is normal.
    3. Re:Red, do you have a PHD in psychiatry? by Red+Flayer · · Score: 1

      Yeah, I know. I read the Clone threads, some of your threads with him... some of the other ones on slashdot.

      I also mosied (moseyed?) over to ars technica to read some highly amusing threads from 2002 with this moron. There were also some good ones on other sites. This guy makes Pudge seem positively normal.

      --
      "Trolls they were, but filled with the evil will of their master: a fell race..." -- J.R.R. Tolkien on Olog-hai
    4. Re:Red, do you have a PHD in psychiatry? by clone53421 · · Score: 1

      from what I can figure out from an entirely unrelated argument

      No: The same one. I’m not kidding: APK has stalked me constantly EVER SINCE THAT ARGUMENT. He’s been posting his shitstream in response to nearly every post I make... I’ve generally tried to ignore it but every now and then I get sucked in. :/

      --
      Alexander Peter Kristopeit bought his basement from his mommy for one dollar.
    5. Re:Red, do you have a PHD in psychiatry? by squiggleslash · · Score: 1

      Can I just say how nice it is to see a comment of mine has two replies, open it, and find that they're both legitimate ;-) Geez, in my case this has only been going on for less than a week in my case, I can't imagine how you feel!

      --
      You are not alone. This is not normal. None of this is normal.
    6. Re:Red, do you have a PHD in psychiatry? by clone53421 · · Score: 1

      Well, it’s a combination of hilarious and apk making an utter fool of himself, as usual. I can’t say I mind a terrible lot, really.

      --
      Alexander Peter Kristopeit bought his basement from his mommy for one dollar.
  213. Re:squiggle's now replying as AC to avoid answerin by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    My comments, and the comments of others here, stand by themselves. I have no idea whether you're too stupid to understand that concept (which seems possible, because if you're to be taken at face value then you've gone about defending yourself against some great slight to your reputation in the most inanely stupid way possible), or whether you're just trying to stir the pot even further, but the people reading this are listening to what's being said, not taking sides based upon who they think has the better qualifications; but even if they did think the way you're claiming to think, and did this through some superficial claim of qualifications, engaging in a kind of ad-hominem reading/comprehension system, they'd still be taking the side of those you're harassing, because it's a choice between someone whose qualifications are "unknown" (though Tom has actually been fairly public about his legal experience and success with the legal system), and someone who has software classified as malware to their name, and who's written articles promoting evidently idiotic solutions to virus protection online. They'd trust Jon Stewart over Kenneth Lay.

  214. Re:squiggle's now replying as AC to avoid answerin by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Keep digging (and guessing!)

    I'm not going to list my qualifications to you, but as I've said before, my software isn't listed as "malware" by numerous anti-malware groups. And I don't promote snake-oil as a defense against viruses.

    Those are facts. You can dance around them, but the more you do, the more ridiculous you appear.

  215. The point is you're full of it AND powerless by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    clone53421 stalking others to other forums shown here first of all, and he was who you defended? Please! To all reading, see here http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1640368&cid=32085128 in case you hadn't noticed, first of all.

    Secondly, clone53421 has been libeling others here when he lost a debate on firefox where firefox was shown as having 3 security vulnerabilities in the timeframe of the article, 12 days only oddly, when the usual is 15 days or more typically, "Germany warns users against Firefox" here http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1640368&cid=32111672 where Firefox had 3 issues in that article's timeframe, and that thread was "oddly" (not) closed earlier than usual by FAR too

    (Gee, I wonder why: Perhaps because a libeler named clone53421 here is shown libeling others and calling names galore because he lost a tech debate (and he's one of the moderators "registered cronies"? I think so)).

    Your mod's tactics and abilities are poor, and you obviously defend your "registered cronies" like clone53421 is the point (easily tracked sheep is more like it in registered users) despite clone53421 libeling others, especially others like the ac poster apk, that do a good job helping security online in general as shown here http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1638236&cid=32111856 with that ac apk also being shown to help the open source movement devs too, in UltraDefrag 64 for Windows http://sourceforge.net/projects/ultradefrag/forums/forum/709672/topic/3690136, with code the devs of UltraDefrag actually liked (to help better their ware).

    Some "spyware maker" as clone53421 called him, yes libeling him too!

    I state this because the links above are where clone53421 was shown a month or more ago that apk's app is like those from Dr. Mark Russinovich of Microsoft and those of Nir Sofer too of nirsoft, being falsely called malwares over time.

    (Thus any "good faith" is out the windows on clone53421's libelous allegations, just as yours are in calling others insane but you have no license to do so, nor a degree in psychiatry, nor a professionally done psychiatric evaluation on your part (which is libel because you lack those to your name)).

    These antivirus and antispyware companies make mistakes, or are false positives something that never happens? It does.

    Now, since clone53421's libelously called apk a spyware maker many times here even though he has been informed otherwise? That IS libelous (nullifying good faith on clone's part and also establishing aggravated libel plus the fact that clone53421 did so, out of clearly malicious intent)?

    The ac apk's app also passed all 21 questions of Computer Associates malware test, and it is not a malware. It is a greyware at most, because like ping.exe, it can be misused. It also is listed at CA with zero threat levels now as well because of this all occurring. You can call Greg Jensen of CA on this in fact to verify.

    And, quite clearly, the poster further put you in your place, and with tangible easily verified evidences. He made his point, with facts you can easily verify, which show you are clearly in the wrong sticking your nose into this at all whatsoever.

    Oh, lastly, in case you haven't noticed? IP bans do NOT WORK ON ME!

    (So you can quit trying that or to ban out my posts that way so no one can see the truth of all this. It's become painfully obvious you have not done your homework and checked all of this, or that you are defending your "registered crony" here in clone53421. Take your pick. I chose the latter as a reader of all of this. You people may suppress the truth with others, but, you're NOT going to do so to me. Yo

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    2. Re:The point is you're full of it AND powerless by Red+Flayer · · Score: 1

      Ah. So your point is that (1) I'm lying and (2) I'm powerless.

      I happen to know that (1) is false -- I have not stated anything I believe to be false. Expressions of personal opinions are not lies, even if you disagree with them.

      (2) I may be somewhat powerless, but I'm not absolutely powerless.

      I have the power to compel you to respond to my posts.

      Go ahead. See if you're man enough to withstand my powers of Troll Compulsion. Can you really hold back from responding to my posts? Or will you prove my power once and for all? ONCE AND FOR ALL!

      See, here's the thing. You're an ineffective buttplug that spews crapfloods on the internet. I don't care what happened between you and Clone. When you write lengthy responses trying to "prove" something that I don't give a flying fuck about, all you do is make me more powerful. Soon I will be more powerful than you could ever hope to imagine. Mwua-ha-ha-ha.

      In the meantime, you can continue wasting your time arguing with someone who thinks you're an idiot. I'm starting to enjoy it. At first I laughed at you. Then I pitied you for your poor mental health. But now it's full circle, and I'm laughing at you again. Because you don't even *realize* how foolish you look.

      Nothing Clone or anyone else writes could ever do as much harm to your reputation as your posting style does today.

      --
      "Trolls they were, but filled with the evil will of their master: a fell race..." -- J.R.R. Tolkien on Olog-hai
    3. Re:The point is you're full of it AND powerless by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hey Alex (yes, I know it's you). This is Greg Jensen of CA. No, we are not going to de-list your application from our database. Fuck off and stop telling people to call me. It's starting to piss me off. If people want to contact CA they can use the contact section of the website but what makes you think I'd want to continually be personally contacted so I can tell them you're full of shit, as usual? I don't. Cut it out. Thanks.

  216. But wait! There's MORE! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
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    "Hey! Hey! Stop that! I'm one of Alexander Peter Kowalski's many anonymous admirers and you're LIBELING HIM by describing his habit of replying to all your comments with threats of legal action and bizarre misogynist insults as MALWARE!"

    (Screen shows second head popping out of PC also wearing ski-mask. "Head with ski-mask' looks suspiciously like black sock over hand with a hole cut in it showing lips drawn in crude lipstick

    "What Anonymous Coward says is right! Alexander Peter Kowalski is a great person, why look at all these articles he's written! Thanks to him, I now know the secret of dealing with all spammers except for Kowalski himself who isn't a spammer and that's a GROSS LIBEL he's just someone who posts the same thing over and over and over again, which is to edit my hosts file!"

    (Screen shows third head popping out of PC also wearing ski-mask, looking suspiciously like the second hand... er, head.)

    "Hi, I'm also not this APK person, whoever he is, but I just wanted to say that APK is in the right here and you are in the wrong! Sure, Kowalski writes applications that work terribly well as malware components such as programs to crudely hide other programs, but that's just because Kowalski writes great programs that everyone wants to use, even malware writers! How dare anyone suggest otherwise! They're just LIBELING me... er, him!"

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    "Its 1987 - still laughing at Kowalski! I was told last week by a co worker who just avoids mentioning APK by name, and he said I was doing overkill. I told him yes, but now I get a good laugh every time I check the responses to my posts. He said good point. I will say it again, KowalskiBeGone is FANTASTIC! Although it did kind of ruin Madagascar as it took out that penguin and now half the jokes surrounding the penguin don't make any sense" - Anonymous Coward #2, user of KowalskiBeGone

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  217. As you can see, your IP bans are USELESS, lol! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Nothing Clone or anyone else writes could ever do as much harm to your reputation as your posting style does today." - by Red Flayer (890720) writes: on Thursday May 06, @03:14PM (#32115616) Journal

    Sure, just like sopssa closing the thread where apk dusted clone53421 on Opera being faster and more secure than Firefox is, with Firefox showing 3 errors in 1 week, where Opera had none in the "Germany warns against Firefox" article here, and when that 3rd error in 1 week showed up? That thread was closed 3-5 days early by you and your fellow mods because your crony in clone53421 (probably the handle/nick one of you use as an alternate to your moderator nick, or it's one of the "in crowd" or owners here is all, that's obvious enough) was losing, badly, to apk.

    Do you think you're fooling anyone with those kinds of tactics?

    They're no better than your PUNY ATTEMPTS @ BANNING POSTS FROM ME, which as you can see? Are useless!

    I see you boys block out anonymous proxies and such, but I have ways of getting around your puny blocks, easily (you thought you cut off 2-3 of the ways I do, but I just "blow by" with a few more is all, easily).

    ". You're an ineffective buttplug that spews crapfloods on the internet." - by Red Flayer (890720) writes: on Thursday May 06, @03:14PM (#32115616) Journal

    You think I am apk. Ok then, when you've done 1/10th of what he has? Then, and only then, can the "likes of you" talk(you, the powerless no degrees to your name in computer sciences mod whose puny attempts at blocking me are easily circumvented, showing you just how weak you are in this science, along with your fellow mods here, lol)

    clone53421 stalking others to other forums shown here http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1640368&cid=32085128 in case you hadn't noticed, first of all.

    Secondly, clone53421 has been libeling others here when he lost a debate on firefox (it had 3 security vulnerabilities in the timeframe of the article, 12 days only oddly, when the usual is 15 days or more typically, "Germany warns users against Firefox" here http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1640368&cid=32111672 where Firefox had 3 issues in that article's timeframe, and that thread was "oddly" (not) closed earlier than usual by FAR too

    (Gee, I wonder why: Perhaps because a libeler named clone53421 here is shown libeling others and calling names galore because he lost a tech debate (and he's one of the moderators "registered cronies"? I think so)).

    Your mod's tactics are poor, and you obviously defend your "registered cronies" (easily tracked sheep is more like it) despite them libeling others, especially others like the ac poster apk, that do a good job helping security online in general as shown here http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1638236&cid=32111856 with that ac apk also being shown to help the open source movement devs too, in UltraDefrag 64 for Windows http://sourceforge.net/projects/ultradefrag/forums/forum/709672/topic/3690136, with code the devs of UltraDefrag actually liked, to help better their ware).

    Some "spyware maker" as clone53421 called him, yes libeling him too, because clone53421 was shown a month or more ago that apk's app is like those from Dr. Mark Russinovich of Microsoft and those of Nir Sofer too of nirsoft, being falsely called malwares over time. Thus any "good faith" is out the windows on clone53421's libelous allegations, just as yours are in calling others insane but you have no license to do so, nor a degree in psychiatry, nor a professionally done psychiatric evaluation on your part (which is libel because you lack those to your name).

    These companies make mistakes or are false positives something that never happens, since clone53421's libelously called apk a spyware maker many times here even though he has been informed otherwise (nullifying good faith on clone's part and also establishing aggravated libel plus the fact that clone53421 did so, out of clearly malicious intent)?

    1. Re:As you can see, your IP bans are USELESS, lol! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You think I am apk. Ok then, when you've done 1/10th of what he has?

      Why in God's name do you think we should have to write 1/10th of a piece of malware, then stalk one tenth of our critics posting between 3/10 and 7/10 off-topic replies to each one in order to comment on that bozo?

    2. Re:As you can see, your IP bans are USELESS, lol! by Red+Flayer · · Score: 1

      Sure, just like sopssa closing the thread where apk dusted clone53421 on Opera being faster and more secure than Firefox is, with Firefox showing 3 errors in 1 week, where Opera had none in the "Germany warns against Firefox" article here, and when that 3rd error in 1 week showed up? That thread was closed 3-5 days early by you and your fellow mods because your crony in clone53421 (probably the handle/nick one of you use as an alternate to your moderator nick, or it's one of the "in crowd" or owners here is all, that's obvious enough) was losing, badly, to apk.

      Oh, you poor deluded bastard. You have no idea of how this site works.

      Go back to a forum where they want your company... if you can find one.

      --
      "Trolls they were, but filled with the evil will of their master: a fell race..." -- J.R.R. Tolkien on Olog-hai
  218. Re:Mistaking dramatic license for technical error. by jimnorcal · · Score: 1

    I was using ICQ back in 1998, and it had the option of displaying each chat character as it was typed

    Yes, I too was thinking of the ICQ real time (character by character) chat from the late 90s. I just installed the latest ICQ after not using it for probably a decade but I don't know if it still has that function (I don't know anyone on ICQ anymore; was just taking a look at how it has progressed over the last decade but hard to do when you can't use it with anyone). I actually would prefer to chat that way just for the reasons you mentioned.

  219. You can't program and you have no CSC degree by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Why in God's name do you think we should have to write 1/10th of a piece of malware" - by Anonymous Coward writes: on Sunday May 09, @12:22AM (#32144290)

    First of all, you can't even program (I've repeatedly asked if you have a degree in computers and you evade that question, because you do not. Thus you are not expert by any means in them, not a single one of you does).

    APK's "critics", like yourself, are a pack of "ne'er do wells" in terms of computer sciences compared to he, lol and ones that talk big but haven't done squat compared to him, or they could evidence degrees and programs they have written that were rated well by others over time.

    (You clearly, have not and do not have such programs or degrees in CSC or CIS to your name either)

    Secondly, If APK is such a malware maker (his app cleanly passed CA's test of whether it is a malware or not, by passing all 21 of the questions CA has in that regard, showing it's not a malware. The same has happened to Dr. Mark Russinovich of Microsoft, as it has for Nir Sofer of Nirsoft (those are only a couple examples thereof too, mind you.

    These antivirus/antispyware companies make mistakes all the time and get false postives too.

    (APK's app is also listed as zero threat levels by CA as well, so, so much for your crap)

    So, IF apk is a malware maker, then why did he do a security guide for Windows that shows users of it having results like these:

    PROOFS/EXAMPLES OF ITS EFFICACY? Ok, below:

    ----

    http://forums.theplanet.com/index.php?s=80bbbffc22d358de6b01b8450d596746&showtopic=89123&st=60&start=60

    "the use of the hosts file has worked for me in many ways. for one it stops ad banners, it helps speed up your computer as well. if you need more proof i am writing to you on a 400 hertz computer and i run with ease. i do not get 200++ viruses and spy ware a month as i use to. now i am lucky if i get 1 or 2 viruses a month. if you want my opinion if you stick to what APK says in his article about securing your computer then you will be safe and should not get any viruses or spy ware, but if you do get hit with viruses and spy ware then it will your own fault. keep up the good fight APK." - Kings Joker, user of my guide @ THE PLANET

    AND

    http://www.xtremepccentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=672ebdf47af75a0c5b0d9e7278be305f&t=28430&page=2

    "I recently, months ago when you finally got this guide done, had authorization to try this on simple work station for kids. My client, who paid me an ungodly amount of money to do this, has been PROBLEM FREE FOR MONTHS! I haven't even had a follow up call which is unusual." - THRONKA, user of my guide @ XTremePcCentral

    AND

    "APK, thanks for such a great guide. This would, and should, be an inspiration to such security measures. Also, the pc that has "tweaks": IS STILL GOING! NO PROBLEMS!" - THRONKA, user of my guide @ XTremePcCentral

    AND

    http://www.xtremepccentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=672ebdf47af75a0c5b0d9e7278be305f&t=28430&page=3

    "Its 2009 - still trouble free! I was told last week by a co worker who does active directory administration, and he said I was doing overkill. I told him yes, but I just eliminated the half life in windows that you usually get. He said good point. So from 2008 till 2009. No speed decreases, its been to a lan party, moved around in a move, and it still NEVER has had the OS reinstalled besides the fact I imaged the drive over in 2008. Great stuff! My client STILL Hasn't called me back in regards to that one machine to get it locked down for the kid. I am glad it worked and I am sure her wallet is appreciated too now that it works. Speaking of which, I need to call her to see if I can get some leads. APK - I will say it again, the guide is FANTASTIC! Its made my PC experience much easier. Sandboxing was great. Getting my host file updated, setting services to system service, rather than system loca

    1. Re:You can't program and you have no CSC degree by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nobody has to answer your stupid nosy, harassing questions if they don’t want to. Maybe they just chose to not tell you stuff that’s obviously none of your business.

      And quit fucking quoting your sock puppets. It’s pathetic. You can’t get legitimate good reviews because your stuff is shit so you write your own. What a fucking douchebag.

    2. Re:You can't program and you have no CSC degree by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      First of all, you can't even program (I've repeatedly asked if you have a degree in computers and you evade that question, because you do not.

      Logic doesn't work that way I'm afraid. Not answering a personal question you have no right to ask that's ludicrous on the face of it doesn't mean the answer is "No", and further, an absolutely huge portion of this industry is comprised of people who program and who don't have degrees.

      What you've implied, repeatedly, is that nobody has the right to comment on your "achievements" unless we've done something similar.

      Your achievements are writing crapware, including software classified, for several years, as malware by the malware community, and writing a guide to system protection based upon a ludicrous, stupid, and demonstrably useless "anti-virus" system, namely placing all of the hostnames used to deliver viruses in a HOSTS file. As has been pointed out, the system can easily be bypassed either through the use of dynamically generated hostnames and wildcard DNS, or even more simply, and even more obviously, by using IP addresses, neither of which HOSTS can bypass. Add that to the lead time required to identify a new "evil" site and get it into HOSTS files for all users, and it's fairly obvious that not only is the method flawed, but anyone proposing it as a solution is either a certifiable idiot, or is being deliberately disingenuous.

      My guess? You honestly think that people will delay giving their money to real anti-virus companies, who you're pissed at for identifying your tools as crapware and components of malware.

      Here's the billion dollar question: will you respond to these points? Will you explain why you think HOSTS is an adequate solution given the above OBVIOUS statements debunking it, or else withdraw your claims about it as a virus-protection system, or will you continue to stonewall, demanding to hear people's educational history, employers, applications (which in my case are stuff you'd never have heard of anyway, unless you work for one of several major automotive concerns, and then only if you work in particular departments, so why would I bother telling you them?) we've written, and other crap that has nothing to do with matters at hand?

      People can see through ad-hominem arguments, indeed, that's why there's a name for that kind of argument. They especially see through ad-hominem arguments based upon nothing at all, which is what you have.

      But of course you're not going to answer, are you? You're just going to reply to this with a demand for more lists of qualifications or bizarre rants about how great you are. And meanwhile, people will ask themselves about IP addresses and wildcard DNS entries, and see your lack of a response as yet more proof that you're full of it.

    3. Re:You can't program and you have no CSC degree by squiggleslash · · Score: 1

      Thanks for posting this. It was a great mash-up of all of your cliches and ridiculous phrases and arguments and helped immeasurably when I wrote this

      --
      You are not alone. This is not normal. None of this is normal.
  220. He made a fool out of you, you online stalker by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The poster here showed you, clone53421, to be an online stalker stalking apk from here to pc review. You're not only a stalker but a liar as well. You do not have a csc OR cis degree, so you're far from an expert on computing as well. You were asked to show proof of that degree, you have none. You were asked to show you've done more to contribute to computing than apk has since 1996 to good repute in reputable publications as apk has a dozen times, and you could not because you have not done as well and you never will, you ne'er do well stalker. All you can do is libel and threaten him but you do not back up your threats of "legal options" (b.s., you can't afford it) and you certainlhy do not have a degree in computer sciences either. So do you think anyone takes you seriously? I don't. I did not like how the moderators here in sopssa closed the post early where you were being destroyed by apk in that he proved not only that Opera is faster than Firefox but also that Opera is more secure than firefox too, because 3 errors in 1 week in firefox is a lot more than zero in Opera. When that third DOM error came out, the mods here shut that thread in ONLY 12 DAYS TIME, which is far earlier than usual, and why? Because you, their crony (or one of them themselves is my guess but posting under this clone53421 id instead now) was LOSING BADLY, which only makes sense: You are obviously just another big talking online ne'er do well, and one with no degrees in CSC or CIS and one that's never done anything good he can show in this science either that others liked, when apk can over decades and many times by way of comparison.

    1. Re:He made a fool out of you, you online stalker by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh wow. Now I’m a /. Admin with the power to close a thread when I’m losing an argument in it.

      Keep going, I like this theory.

    2. Re:He made a fool out of you, you online stalker by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

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      Here's what happens when you use a normal anti-malware tool to clean a PC infected with Kowalski.

      (Screen shows head popping out of PC, wearing Ski-mask)

      "Hey! Hey! Stop that! I'm one of Alexander Peter Kowalski's many anonymous admirers and you're LIBELING HIM by describing his habit of replying to all your comments with threats of legal action and bizarre misogynist insults as MALWARE!"

      (Screen shows second head popping out of PC also wearing ski-mask. "Head with ski-mask' looks suspiciously like black sock over hand with a hole cut in it showing lips drawn in crude lipstick

      "What Anonymous Coward says is right! Alexander Peter Kowalski is a great person, why look at all these articles he's written! Thanks to him, I now know the secret of dealing with all spammers except for Kowalski himself who isn't a spammer and that's a GROSS LIBEL he's just someone who posts the same thing over and over and over again, which is to edit my hosts file!"

      (Screen shows third head popping out of PC also wearing ski-mask, looking suspiciously like the second hand... er, head.)

      "Hi, I'm also not this APK person, whoever he is, but I just wanted to say that APK is in the right here and you are in the wrong! Sure, Kowalski writes applications that work terribly well as malware components such as programs to crudely hide other programs, but that's just because Kowalski writes great programs that everyone wants to use, even malware writers! How dare anyone suggest otherwise! They're just LIBELING me... er, him!"

      As you can see, ordinary anti-malware tools not only don't work, they cause you to end up with even more Kowalskis than you started with!

      But now watch what happens when you use All New KowalskiBeGone! Just sprinkle some of the magic formula on your PC, and watch what happens.

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      "the use of KowalskiBeGone has worked for me in many ways. for one it makes APK hilarious, it helps speed up your computer as well. if you need more proof i am writing to you on a 400 hertz computer and i run with ease. i still get 200++ replies from APK to all my posts as i use to. but now everyone's laughing at them. if you want my opinion if you stick with KowalskiBeGone then you will be safe and entertained, but if you do get upset because it doesn't work then it will your own fault. keep up the good fight SquiggleIndustries!" - Anonymous Coward, Slashdot.org

      "Its 1987 - still laughing at Kowalski! I was told last week by a co worker who just avoids mentioning APK by name, and he said I was doing overkill. I told him yes, but now I get a good laugh every time I check the responses to my posts. He said good point. I will say it again, KowalskiBeGone is FANTASTIC! Although it did kind of ruin Madagascar as it took out that penguin and now half the jokes surrounding the penguin don't make any sense" - Anonymous Coward #2, user of KowalskiBeGone

      How much would you pay for a tool like this? I mean, KowalskiBeGone, obviously. How much? Well, what if we were to tell you that if you order in the next five minutes, we'll include this HILARIOUS Hosts file containing such gems as:

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  221. I doubt this is Greg Jensen but by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Hey Alex (yes, I know it's you). This is Greg Jensen of CA. No, we are not going to de-list your application from our database. Fuck off and stop telling people to call me. It's starting to piss me off. If people want to contact CA they can use the contact section of the website but what makes you think I'd want to continually be personally contacted so I can tell them you're full of shit, as usual? I don't." - by Anonymous Coward writes: on Friday May 07, @08:34AM (#32124888

    You're security suite is the "bottom of the barrel ware" in commercial offerings, and you wonder why? We used it in our shop and we sold your ware (forcibly by your company making us sign contracts to do so no less) and it tore our emails to shreds. It sucks.

    CA? You are a pack of rats and you're not the first to try to libel others that are a threat to those like you.

    Norton did the same general thing you have done to apk and others like he such as Nir Sofer and Mark Russinovich (both of whom have had their wares also classified falsely as out and out malwares too), albeit to spybot search and destroy too:

    It wouldn't be the first time an "antivirus company" like CA libeling apk has happened either. Symantec did it to Spybot Search and Destroy too:

    ----

    SYMANTEC LIBELS SPYBOT SEARCH AND DESTROY:

    http://www.malwarehelp.org/news/article-2139.html

    "With a second false accusation this year, and no valid explanation given, we can only assume that libel is Symantec's way of trying to force anti-spyware competition out of the market."

    ----

    APK's ware has passed your 21 questions for removal, and he did not violate a single one of your constraints that qualify an application as a malware.

    It's obvious you don't remove it because you'd have to remove many people's you have libeled thus, just as you have he, and know it.

    So go away now clone53421, or Red Flaya, or squigglenothing (it's one of you three, and criminal impersonation is obviously not something you fear in laws anymore than you did libel).

  222. You STALKED APK TO ANOTHER FORUMS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    PC review shows you stalked apk to that forums and got yourself banned instantly for it here http://www.pcreview.co.uk/forums/forum-309.php with your name attached to a post that was removed, right at the top no less, as proof thereof clone53421. You have problems but then now that you've been shown as being no expert in computing from your lack of a csc or cis degree to your name, and with proof of you doing the starting up issues around this website when you got your butt kicked by apk in the Germany warns against firefox thread (where the mods closed the thread in only 12 days versus the usual 2-3 weeks or more of them staying open for comment usually because you were losing badly and tossing names and libeling others like apk) where a 3rd security vulnerability came up officially on the last day of that thread in firefox's DOM the thread was closed early. Gee, I wonder why? Perhaps because you're just a stooge or crony of these so called moderators (that can't hold out my posts and they never could, lol, because like you, they're unqualified dolts that are ineffectual and are undereducated with no degree in CSC or CIS, just like you, so it figures), or you are just an alternate registered logon id of theirs is why that was done. You got your tail handed to you for starting up with your clear betters in apk and you couldn't handle your "geek angst" because you think you are better than you are in this science of computing is why. You were shown as having no CSC or CIS degree to your credit, and thus, you are clearly no expert in computing, and you resorted to libel and stalking instead out of your frustration.

  223. Name calling's the "best you've got"? LMAO by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You're nothing, you know it, and all you have is your name calling. Your useless moderators? Well, you see how "effective" they are with their puny IP bans too. No, I know now that this place is full of big talking incompetents, and nothing more. You've never appeared in any reputable publications, where apk did so while you were in diapers, but it only makes sense why you have not and you never will: You're a big talking name calling "ne'er do well" and one that wastes time on slashdot instead of achieving a degree in this art and science of computing instead. It must suck to be you, because all of what he did while you were in diapers, you'll never ever do or you would have by now.

    1. Re:Name calling's the "best you've got"? LMAO by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Interesting that you’ve obviously slipped and admitted that you are intentionally changing your IP to bypass the posting limit, and thereby to gain unauthorized access to a computer system (hacking, in other words).

  224. APK's security guide is more than HOSTS only by kingsjokers · · Score: 1

    First of all, you can't even program (I've repeatedly asked if you have a degree in computers and you evade that question, because you do not.

    Logic doesn't work that way I'm afraid. Not answering a personal question you have no right to ask that's ludicrous on the face of it doesn't mean the answer is "No", and further, an absolutely huge portion of this industry is comprised of people who program and who don't have degrees.

    What you've implied, repeatedly, is that nobody has the right to comment on your "achievements" unless we've done something similar.

    Your achievements are writing crapware, including software classified, for several years, as malware by the malware community, and writing a guide to system protection based upon a ludicrous, stupid, and demonstrably useless "anti-virus" system, namely placing all of the hostnames used to deliver viruses in a HOSTS file. As has been pointed out, the system can easily be bypassed either through the use of dynamically generated hostnames and wildcard DNS, or even more simply, and even more obviously, by using IP addresses, neither of which HOSTS can bypass. Add that to the lead time required to identify a new "evil" site and get it into HOSTS files for all users, and it's fairly obvious that not only is the method flawed, but anyone proposing it as a solution is either a certifiable idiot, or is being deliberately disingenuous.

    My guess? You honestly think that people will delay giving their money to real anti-virus companies, who you're pissed at for identifying your tools as crapware and components of malware.

    Here's the billion dollar question: will you respond to these points? Will you explain why you think HOSTS is an adequate solution given the above OBVIOUS statements debunking it, or else withdraw your claims about it as a virus-protection system, or will you continue to stonewall, demanding to hear people's educational history, employers, applications (which in my case are stuff you'd never have heard of anyway, unless you work for one of several major automotive concerns, and then only if you work in particular departments, so why would I bother telling you them?) we've written, and other crap that has nothing to do with matters at hand?

    People can see through ad-hominem arguments, indeed, that's why there's a name for that kind of argument. They especially see through ad-hominem arguments based upon nothing at all, which is what you have.

    But of course you're not going to answer, are you? You're just going to reply to this with a demand for more lists of qualifications or bizarre rants about how great you are. And meanwhile, people will ask themselves about IP addresses and wildcard DNS entries, and see your lack of a response as yet more proof that you're full of it.

    "Will you explain why you think HOSTS is an adequate solution given the above OBVIOUS statements debunking it" - by Anonymous Coward on Sunday May 09, @10:35PM (#32151184)

    Uhm, illiterate one? APK's security guide espouses a lot more than the use of a HOSTS file only. You're not only stupid, but you have "fixated yourself" on 1 portion of this only. His security guide here: http://forums.theplanet.com/index.php?s=79c7b230a57544836234fc76bec0634f&showtopic=89123 Works based on the concept of "layered security" moron. Learn to READ, because it's ALL UP THERE IN THAT URL (one of many like it).

    "My guess? You honestly think that people will delay giving their money to real anti-virus companies" - by Anonymous Coward on Sunday May 09, @10:35PM (#32151184)

    Oh, you mean the "real antivirus companies" who have flaws in their wares like this one that showed up today and this week earlier too, so they are ABSOLUTELY CURRENT evidences thereof? See here: Critical Flaw Found In Virtuall

    1. Re:APK's security guide is more than HOSTS only by kingsjokers · · Score: 1
    2. Re:APK's security guide is more than HOSTS only by kingsjokers · · Score: 1
    3. Re:APK's security guide is more than HOSTS only by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      OH WOW

      apk dusted off one of his sockpuppets

      shit’s about to get real, yo...

    4. Re:APK's security guide is more than HOSTS only by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      , illiterate one? APK's security guide espouses a lot more than the use of a HOSTS file only

      Of the two of us, I'm the one who can write grammatical sentences and spell words correctly. There's also nothing in my comment that suggested I thought APK... you, let's cut the BS here... was proposing solely the use of the HOSTS file, merely that it was a key plank that, as I pointed out, has numerous flaws, to the point that using it has no real benefits. You are proposing HOSTS as a virus prevention system. It's right there in your article.

      I would, therefore, suggest you crawl back into your hole from whence you came. Rather than answer the question, you're trying to change the subject, and continuing your ad hominems based upon a fictional version of the people you're attacking.

      Oh, and APK, you're not fooling anyone. On the one side you have actual verifiable organizations whose reputation depending upon the integrity of their public statements classifying your software as malware, and on the other you have a handful of comments posted under pseudonyms, all of which are poorly written and, mysteriously, have much the same pattern of misspellings as your own posts, claiming that your snake-oil system works.

      If your systems worked, you wouldn't need to fake testimonials in their favor. If your system worked, you'd be able to explain why you're promoting HOSTS after the limitations of the system have been pointed out.

      But no, instead you're back to posting under sock-puppets, pretending the fact I don't answer irrelevant personal questions is somehow important, reposting your other posts while pretending they're different people, and avoiding, absolutely avoiding, answering the question.

      You know, if you stopped being an ass, fixed your software, and made a few apologies, you might actually start getting some real friends.

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  226. This says it all on slashdot and you Red by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Will you explain why you think HOSTS is an adequate solution given the above OBVIOUS statements debunking it" - by Anonymous Coward on Sunday May 09, @10:35PM (#32151184)

    Uhm, illiterate one? APK's security guide espouses a lot more than the use of a HOSTS file only. You're not only stupid, but you have "fixated yourself" on 1 portion of this only. His security guide here:

    http://forums.theplanet.com/index.php?s=79c7b230a57544836234fc76bec0634f&showtopic=89123

    Works based on the concept of "layered security" moron. Learn to READ, because it's ALL UP THERE IN THAT URL (one of many like it).

    "My guess? You honestly think that people will delay giving their money to real anti-virus companies" - by Anonymous Coward on Sunday May 09, @10:35PM (#32151184)

    Oh, you mean the "real antivirus companies" who have flaws in their wares like this one that showed up today:

    Critical Flaw Found In Virtually All AV Software

    http://tech.slashdot.org/story/10/05/09/1343239/Critical-Flaw-Found-In-Virtually-All-AV-Software

    Hmmmm? You mean the SAME antivirus companies that have also called others like Dr. Mark Russinovich's wares or Nir Sofer of NirSoft's wares as malware too, as CA has for APK's single ware (of many he has made)??

    "who you're pissed at for identifying your tools as crapware and components of malware." - by Anonymous Coward on Sunday May 09, @10:35PM (#32151184)

    OR, how about this "real antivirus company" that blew up a bunch of computers by falsely identifying a valid Windows program (part of windows itself no less) as a virus:

    McAfee To Pay For PC Repairs After Patch Fiasco:

    http://it.slashdot.org/story/10/04/26/1338222/McAfee-To-Pay-For-PC-Repairs-After-Patch-Fiasco

    Hmmm?? They identified a malware alright, lmao: A critical piece of Windows itself? Give us a break.

    (LMAO! Your "LOGIC"?? Blows, and falls apart in the light of easily verified documented FACTS and ones right from slashdot article on this website too, no less!)

    "People can see through ad-hominem arguments, indeed, that's why there's a name for that kind of argument." - by Anonymous Coward on Sunday May 09, @10:35PM (#32151184)

    They surely can, and they can see through your illiterate mistakes too, shown in my last paragraph above in reply, lol! Also, I am not the one calling names, you and yours are, but it is hilarious to produce facts from actual articles from this very website to make you "eat your words" (your words, from an unqualified "wannabe expert" in computers, with no degree to his name like you? LOL, don't make me laugh!)

    "But of course you're not going to answer, are you?" - by Anonymous Coward on Sunday May 09, @10:35PM (#32151184)

    LOL, I answered SO WELL, that you're shown to be a skimming idiot or illiterate fool that spouts incorrect data or erroneous data that "suits his weak arguments" but falls apart fast in the light of actual data in quoted articles as I have produced now. Your "mere words" versus mine backed by actual articles and facts? Good luck dolt, lol!

    "You're just going to reply to this with a demand for more lists of qualifications" - by Anonymous Coward on Sunday May 09, @10:35PM (#32151184)

    Which you don't have, obviously (qualifications), lol!

    "or bizarre rants about how great you are." - by Anonymous Coward on Sunday May 09, @10:35PM (#32151184)

    Great enough to where your puny moderators here have to try to "snuff" my ability to post? Why is THAT happening, hmmm?? Because you KNOW you're all on the ropes and have to try to stop me from making you look even more stupid than you are is why, obviv
    APK's greater than you are obviously. He has done numerous things you never have or will, while you were in diapers no doubt. Inclusive of degrees in Computer Sci

    1. Re:This says it all on slashdot and you Red by Red+Flayer · · Score: 1

      Why are you quoting other people in response to my post?

      And why do you think anyone cares what you have to say?

      --
      "Trolls they were, but filled with the evil will of their master: a fell race..." -- J.R.R. Tolkien on Olog-hai
  227. Snuffing out peoples ability to post != winning by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Will you explain why you think HOSTS is an adequate solution given the above OBVIOUS statements debunking it" - by Anonymous Coward on Sunday May 09, @10:35PM (#32151184)

    Illiterate one, APK's security guide espouses a lot more than the use of a HOSTS file only. You're not only stupid, but you have "fixated yourself" on 1 portion of this only. His security guide here:

    http://forums.theplanet.com/index.php?s=79c7b230a57544836234fc76bec0634f&showtopic=89123

    Works based on the concept of "layered security" moron. Learn to READ, because it's ALL UP THERE IN THAT URL (one of many like it).

    "My guess? You honestly think that people will delay giving their money to real anti-virus companies" - by Anonymous Coward on Sunday May 09, @10:35PM (#32151184)

    Oh, you mean the "real antivirus companies" who have flaws in their wares like this one that showed up today:

    Critical Flaw Found In Virtually All AV Software

    http://tech.slashdot.org/story/10/05/09/1343239/Critical-Flaw-Found-In-Virtually-All-AV-Software

    Hmmmm? You mean the SAME antivirus companies that have also called others like Dr. Mark Russinovich's wares or Nir Sofer of NirSoft's wares as malware too, as CA has for APK's single ware (of many he has made)??

    "who you're pissed at for identifying your tools as crapware and components of malware." - by Anonymous Coward on Sunday May 09, @10:35PM (#32151184)

    OR, how about this "real antivirus company" that blew up a bunch of computers by falsely identifying a valid Windows program (part of windows itself no less) as a virus:

    McAfee To Pay For PC Repairs After Patch Fiasco:

    http://it.slashdot.org/story/10/04/26/1338222/McAfee-To-Pay-For-PC-Repairs-After-Patch-Fiasco

    Hmmm?? They identified a malware alright, lmao: A critical piece of Windows itself? Give us a break.

    (LMAO! Your "LOGIC"?? Blows, and falls apart in the light of easily verified documented FACTS and ones right from slashdot article on this website too, no less!)

    "People can see through ad-hominem arguments, indeed, that's why there's a name for that kind of argument." - by Anonymous Coward on Sunday May 09, @10:35PM (#32151184)

    They surely can, and they can see through your illiterate mistakes too, shown in my last paragraph above in reply, lol! Also, I am not the one calling names, you and yours are, but it is hilarious to produce facts from actual articles from this very website to make you "eat your words" (your words, from an unqualified "wannabe expert" in computers, with no degree to his name like you? LOL, don't make me laugh!)

    "But of course you're not going to answer, are you?" - by Anonymous Coward on Sunday May 09, @10:35PM (#32151184)

    LOL, I answered SO WELL, that you're shown to be a skimming idiot or illiterate fool that spouts incorrect data or erroneous data that "suits his weak arguments" but falls apart fast in the light of actual data in quoted articles as I have produced now. Your "mere words" versus mine backed by actual articles and facts? Good luck dolt, lol!

    "You're just going to reply to this with a demand for more lists of qualifications" - by Anonymous Coward on Sunday May 09, @10:35PM (#32151184)

    Which you don't have, obviously (qualifications), lol!

    "or bizarre rants about how great you are." - by Anonymous Coward on Sunday May 09, @10:35PM (#32151184)

    Great enough to where your puny moderators here have to try to "snuff" my ability to post? Why is THAT happening, hmmm?? Because you KNOW you're all on the ropes and have to try to stop me from making you look even more stupid than you are is why, and apparently, APK's greater than you are obviously. He has done numerous things you never have or will, while you were in diapers no doubt. Inclusive of degrees in Computer S

    1. Re:Snuffing out peoples ability to post != winning by Red+Flayer · · Score: 1

      Still trolling, huh? Can't let it go?

      Have you made an appointment for a clinical evaluation yet? You really need some counseling and/or meds.

      And FYI, I post as myself only. I do not post as AC, nor do I have sockpuppet accounts, nor am I a sockpuppet of another account. Please stop attributing posts of others to me.

      --
      "Trolls they were, but filled with the evil will of their master: a fell race..." -- J.R.R. Tolkien on Olog-hai
  228. This says it all on slashdot and you RedFlaya by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Will you explain why you think HOSTS is an adequate solution given the above OBVIOUS statements debunking it" - by Anonymous Coward on Sunday May 09, @10:35PM (#32151184)

    Illiterate one, APK's security guide espouses a lot more than the use of a HOSTS file only. You're not only stupid, but you have "fixated yourself" on 1 portion of this only. His security guide here:

    http://forums.theplanet.com/index.php?s=79c7b230a57544836234fc76bec0634f&showtopic=89123

    Works based on the concept of "layered security" moron. Learn to READ, because it's ALL UP THERE IN THAT URL (one of many like it).

    "My guess? You honestly think that people will delay giving their money to real anti-virus companies" - by Anonymous Coward on Sunday May 09, @10:35PM (#32151184)

    Oh, you mean the "real antivirus companies" who have flaws in their wares like this one that showed up today:

    Critical Flaw Found In Virtually All AV Software

    http://tech.slashdot.org/story/10/05/09/1343239/Critical-Flaw-Found-In-Virtually-All-AV-Software

    Hmmmm? You mean the SAME antivirus companies that have also called others like Dr. Mark Russinovich's wares or Nir Sofer of NirSoft's wares as malware too, as CA has for APK's single ware (of many he has made)??

    "who you're pissed at for identifying your tools as crapware and components of malware." - by Anonymous Coward on Sunday May 09, @10:35PM (#32151184)

    OR, how about this "real antivirus company" that blew up a bunch of computers by falsely identifying a valid Windows program (part of windows itself no less) as a virus:

    McAfee To Pay For PC Repairs After Patch Fiasco:

    http://it.slashdot.org/story/10/04/26/1338222/McAfee-To-Pay-For-PC-Repairs-After-Patch-Fiasco

    Hmmm?? They identified a malware alright, lmao: A critical piece of Windows itself? Give us a break.

    (LMAO! Your "LOGIC"?? Blows, and falls apart in the light of easily verified documented FACTS and ones right from slashdot article on this website too, no less!)

    "People can see through ad-hominem arguments, indeed, that's why there's a name for that kind of argument." - by Anonymous Coward on Sunday May 09, @10:35PM (#32151184)

    They surely can, and they can see through your illiterate mistakes too, shown in my last paragraph above in reply, lol! Also, I am not the one calling names, you and yours are, but it is hilarious to produce facts from actual articles from this very website to make you "eat your words" (your words, from an unqualified "wannabe expert" in computers, with no degree to his name like you? LOL, don't make me laugh!)

    "But of course you're not going to answer, are you?" - by Anonymous Coward on Sunday May 09, @10:35PM (#32151184)

    LOL, I answered SO WELL, that you're shown to be a skimming idiot or illiterate fool that spouts incorrect data or erroneous data that "suits his weak arguments" but falls apart fast in the light of actual data in quoted articles as I have produced now. Your "mere words" versus mine backed by actual articles and facts? Good luck dolt, lol!

    "You're just going to reply to this with a demand for more lists of qualifications" - by Anonymous Coward on Sunday May 09, @10:35PM (#32151184)

    Which you don't have, obviously (qualifications), lol!

    "or bizarre rants about how great you are." - by Anonymous Coward on Sunday May 09, @10:35PM (#32151184)

    Great enough to where your puny moderators here have to try to "snuff" my ability to post? Why is THAT happening, hmmm?? Because you KNOW you're all on the ropes and have to try to stop me from making you look even more stupid than you are is why, and apparently, APK's greater than you are obviously.

    He has done numerous things you never have or will, while you were in diapers no doubt. Inclusive of degrees in Comp

    1. Re:This says it all on slashdot and you RedFlaya by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      APK has, in fact, written articles promoting the use of HOSTS as a security solution

      If I were you, I would learn to read and write before accusing others of being "illiterate".

    2. Re:This says it all on slashdot and you RedFlaya by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That is not an article, dumbass. It is a forum post.

    3. Re:This says it all on slashdot and you RedFlaya by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Apologies for my last post calling you a dumbass. I was calling you that not on the basis of your post, but on the basis of assuming that you were APK, who is a dumbass. However I shortly realised that you are not APK. So, you are not a dumbass, merely incorrect.

      Don’t give him the credibility of calling his shit an “article”. Reputable sources of news or information, such as newspapers, websites of reputable news sources, magazines, etc., publish articles. Garbage-laden forum posts from asshats on the internet are not “articles”.

  229. Slashdot's BEST, defeated by APK? LMAO! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Will you explain why you think HOSTS is an adequate solution given the above OBVIOUS statements debunking it" - by Anonymous Coward on Sunday May 09, @10:35PM (#32151184)

    Illiterate one, APK's security guide espouses a lot more than the use of a HOSTS file only. You're not only stupid, but you have "fixated yourself" on 1 portion of this only. His security guide here:

    http://forums.theplanet.com/index.php?s=79c7b230a57544836234fc76bec0634f&showtopic=89123

    Works based on the concept of "layered security" moron. Learn to READ, because it's ALL UP THERE IN THAT URL (one of many like it).

    "My guess? You honestly think that people will delay giving their money to real anti-virus companies" - by Anonymous Coward on Sunday May 09, @10:35PM (#32151184)

    Oh, you mean the "real antivirus companies" who have flaws in their wares like this one that showed up today:

    Critical Flaw Found In Virtually All AV Software

    http://tech.slashdot.org/story/10/05/09/1343239/Critical-Flaw-Found-In-Virtually-All-AV-Software

    Hmmmm? You mean the SAME antivirus companies that have also called others like Dr. Mark Russinovich's wares or Nir Sofer of NirSoft's wares as malware too, as CA has for APK's single ware (of many he has made)??

    "who you're pissed at for identifying your tools as crapware and components of malware." - by Anonymous Coward on Sunday May 09, @10:35PM (#32151184)

    OR, how about this "real antivirus company" that blew up a bunch of computers by falsely identifying a valid Windows program (part of windows itself no less) as a virus:

    McAfee To Pay For PC Repairs After Patch Fiasco:

    http://it.slashdot.org/story/10/04/26/1338222/McAfee-To-Pay-For-PC-Repairs-After-Patch-Fiasco

    Hmmm?? They identified a malware alright, lmao: A critical piece of Windows itself? Give us a break.

    (LMAO! Your "LOGIC"?? Blows, and falls apart in the light of easily verified documented FACTS and ones right from slashdot article on this website too, no less!)

    "People can see through ad-hominem arguments, indeed, that's why there's a name for that kind of argument." - by Anonymous Coward on Sunday May 09, @10:35PM (#32151184)

    They surely can, and they can see through your illiterate mistakes too, shown in my last paragraph above in reply, lol! Also, I am not the one calling names, you and yours are, but it is hilarious to produce facts from actual articles from this very website to make you "eat your words" (your words, from an unqualified "wannabe expert" in computers, with no degree to his name like you? LOL, don't make me laugh!)

    "But of course you're not going to answer, are you?" - by Anonymous Coward on Sunday May 09, @10:35PM (#32151184)

    LOL, I answered SO WELL, that you're shown to be a skimming idiot or illiterate fool that spouts incorrect data or erroneous data that "suits his weak arguments" but falls apart fast in the light of actual data in quoted articles as I have produced now. Your "mere words" versus mine backed by actual articles and facts? Good luck dolt, lol!

    "You're just going to reply to this with a demand for more lists of qualifications" - by Anonymous Coward on Sunday May 09, @10:35PM (#32151184)

    Which you don't have, obviously (qualifications), lol!

    "or bizarre rants about how great you are." - by Anonymous Coward on Sunday May 09, @10:35PM (#32151184)

    Great enough to where your puny moderators here have to try to "snuff" my ability to post? Why is

  230. You mean like McAfee and Norton this week? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "My guess? You honestly think that people will delay giving their money to real anti-virus companies" - by Anonymous Coward on Sunday May 09, @10:35PM (#32151184)

    Oh, you mean the "real antivirus companies" who have flaws in their wares like this one that showed up today:

    Critical Flaw Found In Virtually All AV Software

    http://tech.slashdot.org/story/10/05/09/1343239/Critical-Flaw-Found-In-Virtually-All-AV-Software

    Hmmmm? You mean the SAME antivirus companies that have also called others like Dr. Mark Russinovich's wares or Nir Sofer of NirSoft's wares as malware too, as CA has for APK's single ware (of many he has made)??

    "who you're pissed at for identifying your tools as crapware and components of malware." - by Anonymous Coward on Sunday May 09, @10:35PM (#32151184)

    OR, how about this "real antivirus company" that blew up a bunch of computers by falsely identifying a valid Windows program (part of windows itself no less) as a virus:

    McAfee To Pay For PC Repairs After Patch Fiasco:

    http://it.slashdot.org/story/10/04/26/1338222/McAfee-To-Pay-For-PC-Repairs-After-Patch-Fiasco

    Hmmm?? They identified a malware alright, lmao: A critical piece of Windows itself? Give us a break.

    (LMAO! Your "LOGIC"?? Blows, and falls apart in the light of easily verified documented FACTS and ones right from slashdot article on this website too, no less!)

    How many more false positives and antivirus or antispyware company screwups do I have to post here? Searching GOOGLE for "Antivirus false positives" does the rest http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&q=%22antivirus+false+positives%22&btnG=Google+Search

    "Your achievements are writing crapware, including software classified, for several years, as malware by the malware community" - by Anonymous Coward on Sunday May 09, @10:35PM (#32151184)

    Do you mean the "malware community" in antivirus companies that LIBEL THEIR COMPETITION?

    ----

    SYMANTEC LIBELS SPYBOT SEARCH AND DESTROY:

    http://www.malwarehelp.org/news/article-2139.html

    "With a second false accusation this year, and no valid explanation given, we can only assume that libel is Symantec's way of trying to force anti-spyware competition out of the market."

    ----

    As far as 'crapware'? The day you can do all of this, yourself, from as long ago up to today presently:

    ----

    Windows NT Magazine (now Windows IT Pro) April 1997 "BACK OFFICE PERFORMANCE" issue, page 61

    (&, for work done for EEC Systems/SuperSpeed.com on PAID CONTRACT (writing portions of their SuperCache program increasing its performance by up to 40% via my work) albeit, for their SuperDisk & HOW TO APPLY IT, took them to a finalist position @ MS Tech Ed, two years in a row 2000-2002, in its HARDEST CATEGORY: SQLServer Performance Enhancement).

    WINDOWS MAGAZINE, 1997, "Top Freeware & Shareware of the Year" issue page 210, #1/first entry in fact (my work is there)

    PC-WELT FEB 1998 - page 84, again, my work is featured there

    WINDOWS MAGAZINE, WINTER 1998 - page 92, insert section, MUST HAVE WARES, my work is again, there

    PC-WELT FEB 1999 - page 83, again, my work is featured there

    CHIP Magazine 7/99 - page 100, my work is there

    GERMAN PC BOOK, Data Becker publisher "PC Aufrusten und Repairen" 2000, where my work is contained in it

    HOT SHAREWARE Numero 46 issue, pg. 54 (PC ware mag from Spain), 2001 my work is there, first one featured, yet again!

    Also, a British PC Mag in 2002 for many utilities I wrote, saw it @ BORDERS BOOKS but didn't buy it... by that point, I had moved onto other areas in this field besides coding only...

    Lastly, being paid for an article that made me money over @ PCPitstop in 2008 for writing up a guide that has people showing NO VIRUSES/SPYWARES

  231. You came in here saying "fuck off" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Fuck off." - by Red Flayer (890720) writes: on Tuesday May 04, @03:29PM (#32089624) Journal

    You're not helping your case by your use of profanity first of all. It makes you off topic also.

    "Still trolling, huh?" - by Red Flayer (890720) writes: on Monday May 10, @03:18PM (#32160272) Journal

    The same can be said of yourself, especially because of your use of the F word above, in your first post in this exchange. It is clear YOU are the troll here.

    "Can't let it go?" - by Red Flayer (890720) writes: on Monday May 10, @03:18PM (#32160272) Journal

    Once more, the same can be said of yourself. You keep getting shot down on every so-called point you made here, especially here http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1640368&cid=32160380 and it was done with verifiable concrete valid documentation in shooting you down also.

    You've additionally also proven yourself quite useless or obsolete, because as you can see? You cannot stop myself from posting replies here, despite your rather PUNY attempts at using IP address bans versus my posts to attempt to supress the truth of what happened here with clone53421!

    clone53421 libeled others here calling them malware makers, when the ac apk has done a good deal of decent things in this field as well as producing the first and original guide for securing a Windows NT based OS that has grown to a point where it can be shown that applying his guide, in full, not just the hosts file which you oddly fixated on only (and his guide is far more than that).

    The funny part is that when users only applied his hosts file, they reduced their malware infestation rate to less than 1% of their usual (Kings Joker) and it makes sense: You cannot get burned if you cannot go into the malware kitchen (which is part of what a HOSTS files can do, stop you from going to known bad sites, and the ac apk apparently populates his hosts file from reputable locations and daily too so it is absolutely current).

    You can try to put those kinds of results down, but they are stated by others as fact and make loads of sense why hosts would work well versus malware too.

    The mods here also knew clone53421 was wrong on the "Germany versus Firefox" thread because Firefox showed 3 errors in 1 week and Opera had none.

    When the 3rd DOM security vulnerability in Firefox showed up, well before the due date for closing a post here no less (12 days life only on that thread)? You and the other mods closed it!

    The mods closed it because the ac apk brought the DOM security vulnerability in Firefox to light or tried to in that 3rd vulnerability OFFICIALLY surfacing (it was in existence from 4/1/2010 though but not officially declared a bug yet is all - the ac apk had you all on the ropes, as is the case here as well, and you knew it, so the mods closed that thread before their "crony" in clone53421 could be shown as further in error)).

    To all reading? This is the REAL slashdot: A house of incompetent and corrupt dishonest moderators who "cater to their cronies" (their other registered id's is more like it) when they are losing badly and libeling others also, and LMAO, still they "fail" at holding out those they are unfairly supressing posts and replies from (case in point being myself here).

    1. Re:You came in here saying "fuck off" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Nobody is libeling you by calling you a malware maker. You are one.

      http://www.ca.com/us/securityadvisor/pest/pest.aspx?id=51276
      http://www.pestpatrol.com/zks/pestinfo/a/apkapp2backgrounddaemonprocessengine.asp
      http://www.spywaredb.com/remove-apkapp2backgrounddaemonprocessengine/
      http://sw.freedom.net/portal/swportal?partnerid=20&lang=fr&component=spyware&spyware=apkapp2backgrounddaemonprocessengine&option=fulldisplay

      You may not like it, you may have done it accidentally (though with your determination to slander the anti-malware community and promote snake-oil "anti-virus" solutions with demonstrable flaws, and an unwillingness to address those flaws, suggests bad faith on your part), but you are, objectively, an author of software considered malware by the wider community.

      Libel kinda sorta requires the allegation be false. The allegation you write malware does, well, appear to be true now, doesn't it?

    2. Re:You came in here saying "fuck off" by Red+Flayer · · Score: 1

      You're not helping your case by your use of profanity first of all. It makes you off topic also.

      Profanity does not in and of itself make something offtopic.

      It is clear YOU are the troll here.

      Wow, you really are a five-year-old. "No I'm not, YOU are!" Do you know what a troll is?

      You keep getting shot down on every so-called point you made here,

      What do you mena, getting shot down? You have yet to address my points in the least. Instead you address straw men you have set up. Really, I don't give a fuck about you an clone or anyone else. My points are entirely based upon the fact that you're a threadshitter. Everytime you respond with page-length posts with irrelevant links in response to my posts, you simply reinforce my point -- that you're a threadshitter.

      I honestly don't know or care about your personal situation. I ignore everything you write that has nothing to do with my point. Seriously, dude, tl;dr.

      You are paranoid, dude. And narcissistic to boot. Get some help.

      And stop threadshitting.

      --
      "Trolls they were, but filled with the evil will of their master: a fell race..." -- J.R.R. Tolkien on Olog-hai
  232. You're off topic by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See subject, and realize that if that is the "best you have" here in reply? You have nothing. Same as was asked of you if you had a degree in the art and sciences of computing and you could not produce one to your name/credit. You are not an expert here, because you cannot produce such degrees to your name and credit which would function to establish you as an expert in computing. Thus, by evading answering whether you have a degree in CSC or CIS to your name/credit, you are basically stating to us all you are not an expert or anyone to take seriously because no educational institution can be shown as giving you license or degrees to that effect.

    (You also failed at producing evidences of the alleged customers you stated have written programs for, which again, you have not produced upon being asked)

    Thus, you are nothing and have nothing.

    In essence, due to the above? You're nobody to take seriously.

    Now by the same token, the ac apk has loads of evidences in respectable publications in the trade of computing as well as appearances at technical trade shows and contests like Microsoft Tech Ed 2 years in a row and others like it by contrast. I know whom I take seriously here, and it's not yourself, but rather he versus yourself.

    1. Re:You're off topic by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Woo, so after accusing your critics of writing malware, of stalking, of being illiterate, and of being underqualified, you're now adding that I'm off-topic?

      Here's an idea: why don't you start replying to your own posts? That way you can make all the same allegations, but this time you'll be right!

    2. Re:You're off topic by clone53421 · · Score: 1

      Here's an idea: why don't you start replying to your own posts?

      He already does.

      --
      Alexander Peter Kristopeit bought his basement from his mommy for one dollar.
  233. APK's app passed all 21 questions of CA's test by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Nobody is libeling you by calling you a malware maker. You are one." - by Anonymous Coward
    on Tuesday May 11, @07:00PM (#32176254)

    APK's single app listed there passed every question for removal of the 21 points asked by Computer Associates. Explain then how and why it can be classified as a malware by they, if his app passes every point for removal then?

    Additionally (and again for the 10th time or more now):

    Apk's not the only person that's happened to.

    It has also been repeatedly pointed out that Nir Sofer of Nirsoft and also Dr. Mark Russinovich of Microsoft even had have this same thing happen to they also.

    The ac apk actually appears to be in good company in fact on this note.

    You also fail to mention that apk was told by an attorney that he has a winning case worth $150,000 U.S. Dollars versus Computer Associates for libeling he thus, and, that CA now lists his app WITH ZERO THREAT LEVELS (because apk violates none of the questions they list on their removal test from their lists. Funny they STILL LIST IT though, even though apk's app violates none of the test items to declare an app, a malware!)

    I would also like to mention that for a "malware maker", the ac apk also seems to have written what appears to be the very first and original guide for securing Windows NT based Operating Systems from as far back as 1998 to its present incarnation today that has crossed over 350,000 views worldwide and been made an "essential guide" or "sticky-pinned thread" and certainly in the top 1-10 most viewed threads on the forums it has been featured on, often being rated "5/5 stars" and the like as well.

    Results for users of it? Ok, again:

    ----

    http://forums.theplanet.com/index.php?s=80bbbffc22d358de6b01b8450d596746&showtopic=89123&st=60&start=60

    "the use of the hosts file has worked for me in many ways. for one it stops ad banners, it helps speed up your computer as well. if you need more proof i am writing to you on a 400 hertz computer and i run with ease. i do not get 200++ viruses and spy ware a month as i use to. now i am lucky if i get 1 or 2 viruses a month. if you want my opinion if you stick to what APK says in his article about securing your computer then you will be safe and should not get any viruses or spy ware, but if you do get hit with viruses and spy ware then it will your own fault. keep up the good fight APK." - Kings Joker, user of my guide @ THE PLANET

    AND

    http://www.xtremepccentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=672ebdf47af75a0c5b0d9e7278be305f&t=28430&page=2

    "I recently, months ago when you finally got this guide done, had authorization to try this on simple work station for kids. My client, who paid me an ungodly amount of money to do this, has been PROBLEM FREE FOR MONTHS! I haven't even had a follow up call which is unusual." - THRONKA, user of my guide @ XTremePcCentral

    AND

    "APK, thanks for such a great guide. This would, and should, be an inspiration to such security measures. Also, the pc that has "tweaks": IS STILL GOING! NO PROBLEMS!" - THRONKA, user of my guide @ XTremePcCentral

    AND

    http://www.xtremepccentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=672ebdf47af75a0c5b0d9e7278be305f&t=28430&page=3

    "Its 2009 - still trouble free! I was told last week by a co worker who does active directory administration, and he said I was doing overkill. I told him yes, but I just eliminated the half life in windows that you usually get. He said good point. So from 2008 till 2009. No speed decreases, its been to a lan party, moved around in a move, and it still NEVER has had the OS reinstalled besides the fact I imaged the drive over in 2008. Great stuff! My client STILL Hasn't called me back in regards to that one machine to get it locked down for the kid. I am glad it worked and I am sure her wallet is appreciated too now that it works. Speaking of which, I need to call her to see if I can get some lea

    1. Re:APK's app passed all 21 questions of CA's test by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You also fail to mention that apk was told by an attorney that he has a winning case worth $150,000 U.S. Dollars versus Computer Associates for libeling he thus

      Because it never happened, perhaps?

      Prove that it did.

      Even if it did happen, you can always find an attourney who will tell you that you have a winning case... as long as the attourney knows he’ll get paid when you lose! Which, as everyone knows, is absurd because you have no money with which to pay an attourney.

      (Or, is stopping others ability to post here, or lol, your mods here TRYING to, and failing no less (lmao), being fair? Far from it. You lose!)

      Wait... how exactly are the mods trying to stop you from posting here? Last time I checked, anyone could post.

    2. Re:APK's app passed all 21 questions of CA's test by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      APK's single app listed there passed every question for removal of the 21 points asked by Computer Associates. Explain then how and why it can be classified as a malware by they, if his app passes every point for removal then?

      Yes, and they still classify it as malware, so obviously there's more to it than 20 questions

      Additionally (and again for the 10th time or more now): Apk's not the only person that's happened to. It has also been repeatedly pointed out that Nir Sofer of Nirsoft and also Dr. Mark Russinovich of Microsoft even had have this same thing happen to they also

      Yes, you've posted it 781,727,918 times, but that doesn't mean anything, given it's also been DEBUNKED several times (sorry, not as many times as you've asserted it, but that's because I'm not a spammer.) There's a difference between having an app fleetingly described as malware, and it being listed for years and years as such, despite legal threats. You know perfectly well that Russinovich's situation is entirely unlike yours.

      Your software wasn't mistakenly, fleetingly, described as malware while the anti-malware community evaluated it, it's STILL considered malware.

      And you can sit there and make allegations against the anti-malware community as much as you like, but there are a lot more of them than there are of you, and given they're more qualified to talk on the subject than you, I think it's safe to say your software can be considered malware.

      And, BTW, posting grammatically-poor testimonials that appear to have been written by yourself under pseudonyms just makes your posts funnier, not more believable, especially as we've all read your so-called "security guide" and it's got enough clangers to be considered a body of humor, not something anyone would take seriously.

  234. APK's app passed all 21 questions of CA's test by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Nobody is libeling you by calling you a malware maker. You are one." - by Anonymous Coward
    on Tuesday May 11, @07:00PM (#32176254)

    APK's single app listed there passed every question for removal of the 21 points asked by Computer Associates. Explain then how and why it can be classified as a malware by they, if his app passes every point for removal then?

    Additionally (and again for the 10th time or more now):

    Apk's not the only person that's happened to.

    It has also been repeatedly pointed out that Nir Sofer of Nirsoft and also Dr. Mark Russinovich of Microsoft even had have this same thing happen to they also.

    The ac apk actually appears to be in good company in fact on this note.

    You also fail to mention that apk was told by an attorney that he has a winning case worth $150,000 U.S. Dollars versus Computer Associates for libeling he thus, and, that CA now lists his app WITH ZERO THREAT LEVELS (because apk violates none of the questions they list on their removal test from their lists. Funny they STILL LIST IT though, even though apk's app violates none of the test items to declare an app, a malware!)

    I would also like to mention that for a "malware maker", the ac apk also seems to have written what appears to be the very first and original guide for securing Windows NT based Operating Systems from as far back as 1998 to its present incarnation today that has crossed over 350,000 views worldwide and been made an "essential guide" or "sticky-pinned thread" and certainly in the top 1-10 most viewed threads on the forums it has been featured on, often being rated "5/5 stars" and the like as well.

    Results for users of it? Ok, again:

    ----

    http://forums.theplanet.com/index.php?s=80bbbffc22d358de6b01b8450d596746&showtopic=89123&st=60&start=60

    "the use of the hosts file has worked for me in many ways. for one it stops ad banners, it helps speed up your computer as well. if you need more proof i am writing to you on a 400 hertz computer and i run with ease. i do not get 200++ viruses and spy ware a month as i use to. now i am lucky if i get 1 or 2 viruses a month. if you want my opinion if you stick to what APK says in his article about securing your computer then you will be safe and should not get any viruses or spy ware, but if you do get hit with viruses and spy ware then it will your own fault. keep up the good fight APK." - Kings Joker, user of my guide @ THE PLANET

    AND

    http://www.xtremepccentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=672ebdf47af75a0c5b0d9e7278be305f&t=28430&page=2

    "I recently, months ago when you finally got this guide done, had authorization to try this on simple work station for kids. My client, who paid me an ungodly amount of money to do this, has been PROBLEM FREE FOR MONTHS! I haven't even had a follow up call which is unusual." - THRONKA, user of my guide @ XTremePcCentral

    AND

    "APK, thanks for such a great guide. This would, and should, be an inspiration to such security measures. Also, the pc that has "tweaks": IS STILL GOING! NO PROBLEMS!" - THRONKA, user of my guide @ XTremePcCentral

    AND

    http://www.xtremepccentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=672ebdf47af75a0c5b0d9e7278be305f&t=28430&page=3

    "Its 2009 - still trouble free! I was told last week by a co worker who does active directory administration, and he said I was doing overkill. I told him yes, but I just eliminated the half life in windows that you usually get. He said good point. So from 2008 till 2009. No speed decreases, its been to a lan party, moved around in a move, and it still NEVER has had the OS reinstalled besides the fact I imaged the drive over in 2008. Great stuff! My client STILL Hasn't called me back in regards to that one machine to get it locked down for the kid. I am glad it worked and I am sure her wallet is appreciated too now that it works. Speaking of which, I need to call her to see if I can get some lea

  235. Care to prove that, clone53421? More libel?? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "If you think this is APK then you are full of SH** and you should check to see who you are talking about. so if you try to block all of my posts like the other one that are here then every thing i have heard about the moderators is true and all of the Slashdot moderators is nothing but a bunch of losers that can not handle the truth, and if you think taking my account and destroying kingersjokwers was going to stop me from posting the facts then you are out of your mind." - by kingsjokers (1808300) writes: on Monday May 10, @10:52AM (#32155438)

    http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1640368&cid=32155438

    It appears that Kings Joker also realizes you people here on slashdot start deleting others' accounts (because the one you point to? Is spelled "Kings Jokwers". He too was unable to use his old account here, and found it was deleted and for no good reasons either (and he most certainly is NOT apk either per the quote above).

    Yes, when slashdot's mods and their cronies are losing to others they libel as they have the ac apk here repeatedly alongside their cronies clone53421, and squiggleslash, and tomhudson? You see their attempts at stopping the truth coming out, by trying and failing their IP bans.

    (Clone53421, tomhudson, squiggleslash, and RedFlaya? They just the same guy, or guys, but posting under diff. registered user credentials, and we all know it, or they wouldn't be trying to suppress my ability to post so badly (they fail hugely @ that, lol) or those of others as noted by Kings Joker above).

    Clone53421 likes to libel others, but when it comes to proving his allegations? He has zero, just like he has zero in regards to degrees in the sciences of computing. Clearly, without them to his credit/name, he's by no means, an expert. He ran from that question in fact, everytime he was asked it (lol).

    clone53421 and his fellow slashDORKS (lol) also failed to disprove the points noted here, repeatedly also:

    http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1640368&cid=32160380

    (So much for these "slashDORK wannabe experts", because they cannot even prove they're expert level in computing even, lol, and they're certainly NOT big on proving things they state either, and lol, when they DO try to? Their sources are erroneous, or as unqualified as they are, or have made GIANT mistakes themselves!)

    1. Re:Care to prove that, clone53421? More libel?? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      His old account?

      Oh... you mean APK’s old sockpuppet account.

      I have no idea why you (APK) were not able to log into your old sockpuppet account. Maybe there’s an inactivity limit (the last post you made with it was in July of ’09, after all). My guess? You just have forgotten the password you used on your sockpuppet accounts.

  236. You know you're not one either, don't you? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    LMAO... see subject above.

  237. Show us your degree in computers clone53421 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Per my subject above, until you produce that to your credit? You're as big a fool as you were in the thread your moderator pals closed, because a third error creeped out in Firefox then, and what did your mod pals do? They closed the thread as apk tried to put up the evidence of the DOM issue in Firefox (where Opera had zero errors in the timeframe of said debate, and has less than Firefox does, and Opera's certainly faster on all fronts as well, much to your chagrin). You're not expert in computing, because if you were, you'd have a degree stating you had achieved a certain level of proficiency in them. Nor do your "supporters" in Red Flaya, tomhudson, and squiggleslash possess degrees in the computer sciences either. The ac apk does, and also has done numerous things that were listed here from respectable publications in this science. You and yours here have none of those either. You tried to "lessen that", and it's not working, because you only expose yourself further as a big talking ne'er do well. What was clear to myself reading this exchange is that the moderators here are scumbags, who tried to suppress the ac's ability to post here, and they laughingly failed that too (but they sure are good at closing threads like the "Germany warns against firefox" thread where you started libeling apk weren't they?). You're nothing but a done nothing with himself cheap shot artist, along with your "so called friends" who are probably yourself posting here under different registered user logon accounts is all. I've seen that done here on this very website before, so I merely assume the same with you, because you took cheap shots at the ac apk calling him a malware maker, but his single app (others have had this happen to they too, such as Dr. Mark Russinovich of Microsoft and Nir Sofer of NIRSOFT) passed every one of the 21 questions for removal at Computer Associates website (the only "major player" in your so called lists, and CA's the VERY BOTTOM OF THE BARRELL in commercial offerings as far as security suites go versus Norton and McAfee for instance), yet apk's app is still listed there? There is something wrong with that, because ping.exe is as dangerous, and an app like Spybot Search and Destroy alters a hosts file (yet it's not listed by CA, because Norton tried to libel Spybot that way, and got taken to the cleaners on it, the url for that was posted here in many replies too no less). Bottom line, is this: You're not expert in this art and science, so quit trying to play one here on slashdot, home of the corrupt and unfair scumbag moderator, Red Flaya. Don't like my take on it? Too bad. I read what I read here, and I see how you little fleas are nothing more than a pack of wannabes trying to play expert. Go get a degree, and then, get back to us, before you attempt to "play expert online" here on this website. Same to your unqualified and incompetent moderator, in Red Flaya.

    1. Re:Show us your degree in computers clone53421 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How those qualifications stack up. This is a comparison of the known qualifications of each of the individuals APK is stalking with APK:

      Has written software generally considered Malware?

      Clone: No

      Squiggleslash: No

      Tom Hudson: No

      Red Flayer: No

      GMHowell: No

      Alexander Peter Kowalski: YES

      Failed English language courses at school? (Or should have done, given inability to spell or use standard English grammar)

      Clone: No

      Squiggleslash: No

      Tom Hudson: No

      Red Flayer: No

      GMHowell: No

      Alexander Peter Kowalski: YES

      Harasses critics?

      Clone: No

      Squiggleslash: No

      Tom Hudson: No

      Red Flayer: No

      GMHowell: No

      Alexander Peter Kowalski: YES

      Promotes bogus "anti-virus" scheme that by own admission doesn't work and lulls users into false sense of security?

      Clone: No

      Squiggleslash: No

      Tom Hudson: No

      Red Flayer: No

      GMHowell: No

      Alexander Peter Kowalski: YES

      Is unable to make friends in real life and uses sock-puppets instead?

      Clone: No

      Squiggleslash: No

      Tom Hudson: No

      Red Flayer: No

      GMHowell: No

      Alexander Peter Kowalski: YES

      Unable to get a real, paying, job and forced to sell self-written crapware instead?

      Clone: No

      Squiggleslash: No

      Tom Hudson: No

      Red Flayer: No

      GMHowell: No

      Alexander Peter Kowalski: YES

      Lifelong open misogyny leading to lifelong virginity?

      Clone: No

      Squiggleslash: No

      Tom Hudson: No

      Red Flayer: No

      GMHowell: No

      Alexander Peter Kowalski: YES