I never said that Violence is the only thing that sells. What I'm trying to point out is that if EVERY game is casual and non-violent... someone would make a violent/hard-core game to be out of the norm. That game would sell, only because it's different and more appealing. This is why they sell so well.
GTA? Halo? Doom? BF2? Any Fantasy game?
Whether or not they're a cheap FPS or not, they sell quite a bit on console games. I don't know what your personal vendetta is against me, or why you flamed so much, but it's obvious that these games sell millions and millions of copies every year.
When was the last time a SIMS game topped the charts on a console? Even on a PC for that matter?
They sold as a simulation on PC, but it was still brought about in a time that there were only a handful of games to begin with.
I see your point about having new ideas and such.. even "viva pinata" was a cool idea for the makers, and it sold well. We honestly need more developers with new ideas to get out of the slump. I would also like to see the numbers as well... because I really think that the majority of High School and college students (prime game age) prefer violent games now.
For example, since march of 2006, XBox games that sold more than 1 million copies: Halo 2(8m), Halo (5m), Splinter Cell (2.4m), Fable (2mil), Star Wars: KOR (1.3 Mil), PGR (1.2Mil).
360 Games over 1mil: Gears of War (3.7), Oblivion (3mil), Call of Duty (1.4), Lost planet (1.37), Dead rising (1.2), Madden NFL (1.1), Perfect Dark Zero (1), Saits Row (1), Dead or alive (1), Ghost Recon AW(1).
See a trend?
Now, Nintendo, PS2, PS, PC and other previous consoles had very few violent games, but still sold millions and millions. The Wii is still selling non-violent like crazy as well. But, when it comes to the other half of users, when the word gets out that some game has more blood and guts than any other game created... they buy them up in wholesale fashion. Why? Because it's the new "cool".
I'm not saying that it's right, or that you're wrong, or that the trend should continue... I'm saying that if people cut down on producing violent games, some asshole is going to throw one out there to quench the thirst of those that used to play them a lot.
I play racing games more than anything, but Most of the people I know who are heavy gamers, prefer the shooters and such.
Know what I mean?
It's not a flame toward you, I understand your point of view. I just don't want you thinking that I'm saying that violent games are the best thing out there, and they're the ONLY thing that sells. Anyone can throw together a BS FPS, you're right. One with more blood and guts will sell more.
Casual or not, violence and hard-core games sell. The more "casual" and bland you make a game to lean toward the family oriented genre, the more other companies will cash in with something out of the ordinary.
Games are babysitters nowadays. Families will buy Wii's and family games for their children, but the average household will buy a console for their kid and any game they want, just to keep them occupied while they're fornicating in the back room with the neighbor.
I've actually had mine die on me and I took a benz-o-matic to it to heat up the chips again and get it working. Shitty, I know.. but, desperate times call for desperate measures. The second time around, it melted the solder out from under the ram.
OOPS.
Though your chances of running into a bad one are 1 in 3, it's a damn shame considering it's such a great addition to media center and such. I'm not even trying to repair it.. rather than just waiting for the 65nm, because it's just a matter of time before the 90nm overheats again.
Soon, Comcast will be offering 16Mb/s in all major cities, and gradually working to smaller towns within a few years.
When I lived in Reston, Va, my speed was 16Mb/s (2MB/s), continuous, without any initial boost.
It's being pushed in FIOS areas for the time being, only to compete directly with Verizon... but will soon be everywhere. (or so they say.) Within a couple months, the new area I live in is actually switching to 16Mb... but, I think they're waiting on FIOS as well.
"Twelve voices were shouting in anger, and they were all alike. No question, now, what had happened to the faces of the pigs. The creatures outside looked from pig to man, and from man to pig, and from pig to man again; but already it was impossible to say which was which." -Animal farm
They'll soon have vibrators that are self-powered. Handheld pocket pieces around the globe. This would definitely outsell the solar powered vibrator idea, for those who just can't be away from masturbation when stuck without batteries.
They make a big deal about this, but at the same time we still have NTSC and PAL formats to basically keep sales of certain products specific to European customers.
Just quit selling anything HD to them. No players, no media.... THEN, there will be no ANTI-TRUST garb. There are dual-format drives available, and I'm sure they'll all be widespread in a year, just like -R and +R formats.
The UK has been trying to manipulate the way other countries run their business with the anti-trust bullshit for a while, and nobody questions the high tariff's throw on them when they get there.. by their own government.
Too bad "laughing" gas doesn't make you bust out laughing, rather than makes you tingle or black out.
It would have to take a massive concentration of Nitrous to take down a person in the open air. And if a threshold is broken, it would deprive your brain of oxygen and kill you. I've seen it actually happen to a friend under different circumstances.
I'm sure they found out the hard way, though. There's a reason it wasn't mainstream.
Yeah. Everyone we don't deal with is always in good standing, and their government has no reason of harming their own citizens.
Besides, how many countries do we honestly help out with sending food and supplies, yet it's intercepted by it's own government before it actually gets to those who are starving?
I don't know the numbers offhand, but I'm PRETTY sure that most of the countries that have sanctions against them wouldn't use the economy for their own citizens, regardless of the amount or origin.
It doesn't HELP by enforcing a sanction by any means, but it pressures the country to make a change. Otherwise, they'll continue fucking over their own people.
Do you think Castro would allow PC's to be given to children in Cuba, even if they were allowed to send them there?
Support groups and other organizations from the US attempt to defy the government and help Cubas citizens, but are usually in great danger of being intercepted by it's own government.
Do you think there would be half the problems in their society if Castro was gone? Besides, how many presidents have come and gone in the US since his life-long rule, and everyone still has the same opinion.
I don't hate Cubans, but being a lifelong communist dictator and not changing your ways, allowing your country to starve.. isn't USA's problem. Anything you give him will be used against you or thrown back in your face.
I feel bad for their children. I really do. But, you're blind to think that Castro would allow anything of the sort.
I agree. There are so many ways they could help their people with fuel and other valuable economic riches, but they don't do it as-is. In fact, a lot of these places send government funded militias to seize all incoming RATIONS for their own use, regardless of who it's for. Even some countries who aren't blocked by sanctions will probably see this happen as a common occurence.
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I never said that Violence is the only thing that sells. What I'm trying to point out is that if EVERY game is casual and non-violent... someone would make a violent/hard-core game to be out of the norm. That game would sell, only because it's different and more appealing. This is why they sell so well.
GTA? Halo? Doom? BF2? Any Fantasy game?
Whether or not they're a cheap FPS or not, they sell quite a bit on console games. I don't know what your personal vendetta is against me, or why you flamed so much, but it's obvious that these games sell millions and millions of copies every year.
When was the last time a SIMS game topped the charts on a console? Even on a PC for that matter?
They sold as a simulation on PC, but it was still brought about in a time that there were only a handful of games to begin with.
I see your point about having new ideas and such.. even "viva pinata" was a cool idea for the makers, and it sold well. We honestly need more developers with new ideas to get out of the slump. I would also like to see the numbers as well... because I really think that the majority of High School and college students (prime game age) prefer violent games now.
For example, since march of 2006, XBox games that sold more than 1 million copies:
Halo 2(8m), Halo (5m), Splinter Cell (2.4m), Fable (2mil), Star Wars: KOR (1.3 Mil), PGR (1.2Mil).
360 Games over 1mil:
Gears of War (3.7), Oblivion (3mil), Call of Duty (1.4), Lost planet (1.37), Dead rising (1.2), Madden NFL (1.1), Perfect Dark Zero (1), Saits Row (1), Dead or alive (1), Ghost Recon AW(1).
See a trend?
Now, Nintendo, PS2, PS, PC and other previous consoles had very few violent games, but still sold millions and millions. The Wii is still selling non-violent like crazy as well. But, when it comes to the other half of users, when the word gets out that some game has more blood and guts than any other game created... they buy them up in wholesale fashion. Why? Because it's the new "cool".
I'm not saying that it's right, or that you're wrong, or that the trend should continue... I'm saying that if people cut down on producing violent games, some asshole is going to throw one out there to quench the thirst of those that used to play them a lot.
I play racing games more than anything, but Most of the people I know who are heavy gamers, prefer the shooters and such.
Know what I mean?
It's not a flame toward you, I understand your point of view. I just don't want you thinking that I'm saying that violent games are the best thing out there, and they're the ONLY thing that sells. Anyone can throw together a BS FPS, you're right. One with more blood and guts will sell more.
I guess it's better than inbreeding, considering the terrible birth defects it brings. But, people still do it, nonetheless.
Casual or not, violence and hard-core games sell. The more "casual" and bland you make a game to lean toward the family oriented genre, the more other companies will cash in with something out of the ordinary.
Games are babysitters nowadays. Families will buy Wii's and family games for their children, but the average household will buy a console for their kid and any game they want, just to keep them occupied while they're fornicating in the back room with the neighbor.
But it probably causes cancer.
Seems a bit more creepy here.
It would only sell better if it dealt with sex and was environmentally sound with a small "carbon footprint".
The Elite was still 90nm. 65nm is a smaller and cooler chip.
As long as all of the chips (rather than just the gpu and such) are changed to 65nm... it should make a huge difference in reliability.
The change can be directly correlated with differences in Pentium 4 and Core 2 Duo heat transfer.
I've actually had mine die on me and I took a benz-o-matic to it to heat up the chips again and get it working. Shitty, I know.. but, desperate times call for desperate measures. The second time around, it melted the solder out from under the ram.
OOPS.
Though your chances of running into a bad one are 1 in 3, it's a damn shame considering it's such a great addition to media center and such. I'm not even trying to repair it.. rather than just waiting for the 65nm, because it's just a matter of time before the 90nm overheats again.
Soon, Comcast will be offering 16Mb/s in all major cities, and gradually working to smaller towns within a few years.
When I lived in Reston, Va, my speed was 16Mb/s (2MB/s), continuous, without any initial boost.
It's being pushed in FIOS areas for the time being, only to compete directly with Verizon... but will soon be everywhere. (or so they say.) Within a couple months, the new area I live in is actually switching to 16Mb... but, I think they're waiting on FIOS as well.
"Twelve voices were shouting in anger, and they were all alike. No question, now, what had happened to the faces of the pigs. The creatures outside looked from pig to man, and from man to pig, and from pig to man again; but already it was impossible to say which was which." -Animal farm
That's funny, I thought Africa was?
Bastards.
Yay for giganews.
They'll soon have vibrators that are self-powered. Handheld pocket pieces around the globe. This would definitely outsell the solar powered vibrator idea, for those who just can't be away from masturbation when stuck without batteries.
Wouldn't they be able to change ports until they find one that conflicts with another?
They make a big deal about this, but at the same time we still have NTSC and PAL formats to basically keep sales of certain products specific to European customers.
Just quit selling anything HD to them. No players, no media.... THEN, there will be no ANTI-TRUST garb. There are dual-format drives available, and I'm sure they'll all be widespread in a year, just like -R and +R formats.
The UK has been trying to manipulate the way other countries run their business with the anti-trust bullshit for a while, and nobody questions the high tariff's throw on them when they get there.. by their own government.
Too bad "laughing" gas doesn't make you bust out laughing, rather than makes you tingle or black out.
It would have to take a massive concentration of Nitrous to take down a person in the open air. And if a threshold is broken, it would deprive your brain of oxygen and kill you. I've seen it actually happen to a friend under different circumstances.
I'm sure they found out the hard way, though. There's a reason it wasn't mainstream.
Take it back or I'll kick your ass.
;)
That's why it's being sold in India. HP and Dell are probably not tough competitors in that country.
Probably sending him refurbed consoles from the factory. I've had it happen with Asus boards as well.
I knowww... ;) I didn't add that it was more centered around the Syria government.
Yeah. Everyone we don't deal with is always in good standing, and their government has no reason of harming their own citizens.
Besides, how many countries do we honestly help out with sending food and supplies, yet it's intercepted by it's own government before it actually gets to those who are starving?
I don't know the numbers offhand, but I'm PRETTY sure that most of the countries that have sanctions against them wouldn't use the economy for their own citizens, regardless of the amount or origin.
It doesn't HELP by enforcing a sanction by any means, but it pressures the country to make a change. Otherwise, they'll continue fucking over their own people.
You're right. It has nothing to do with the dictator that's been in there most of his life and refuses to step down.
Besides, we've had how many presidents in office since he's been in? It could have been dropped, right?
The government has now gained massive income from oil fields, but do you think it starving citizens will see any of it? Please.
In the states, there is impeachment.. in Cuba you have no choice. The US isn't to blame for him being completely insane.
The embargo IS past it's prime, but you can't put ALL the blame on the US.
Again, most of my first post was based on comments to Syria.. but, you get my drift.
Do you think Castro would allow PC's to be given to children in Cuba, even if they were allowed to send them there?
Support groups and other organizations from the US attempt to defy the government and help Cubas citizens, but are usually in great danger of being intercepted by it's own government.
Do you think there would be half the problems in their society if Castro was gone? Besides, how many presidents have come and gone in the US since his life-long rule, and everyone still has the same opinion.
I don't hate Cubans, but being a lifelong communist dictator and not changing your ways, allowing your country to starve.. isn't USA's problem. Anything you give him will be used against you or thrown back in your face.
I feel bad for their children. I really do. But, you're blind to think that Castro would allow anything of the sort.
I was leaning more toward Syria, but if you actually support Castro, you've got problems.
Go read a book.
I agree. There are so many ways they could help their people with fuel and other valuable economic riches, but they don't do it as-is. In fact, a lot of these places send government funded militias to seize all incoming RATIONS for their own use, regardless of who it's for. Even some countries who aren't blocked by sanctions will probably see this happen as a common occurence.
Sad, but true.