Which ironically results in them ending up on EBay anyway, sold to the highest-bidding rich guy.... and then Sony gets blamed anyway by the morons like Zonk who claim that the profiteering is somehow Sony's fault.
That said, it's funny to see the same fanbois that criticized MS for all of the issues surrounding the 360 launch (fights, eBay profiteering, etc.), run to Sony's defense when it happens to their console launch.
Fanboys? How about people who just think that it's absolutely ridiculous and nonsensical to blame the company? It wasn't Microsoft's fault, it's not Sony's fault, and it won't be Nintendo's fault at the Wii launch.
You can blame both companies for just not making enough supply to meet demand
Er, no, you can't blame the companies. They are/were pumping them out as quickly as they can/could. The blame here (if there is any in the first place) lies solely with the people doing it. Honestly, what are the companies supposed to do? Only begin to sell them once they have enough for EVERYONE IN THE WORLD who wants one to buy one?
Artificial scarcity? They're having slow production. You think they only WANT to have this many units for the Japan and US launch, and push the Europe launch back so far? When Nintendo is launching a highly-awaited product at the same time?
This is not Sony's fault in the least, and it REALLY shows how anti-Sony these boards are with people actually claiming that it is.
You mean the castrated version that has no wifi so your psp can't talk to it? I mean, I don't have a PSP, because I got over being a sony fanboy, but I'd be pissed. Oh and it has a tiny hard drive. Fuck'em.
Er, I doubt THAT many people care about linking a PSP to a PS3, and "tiny hard drive"? It's 20GB, the same size as in the 360, and 20GB more than the Wii has. How can you bash them on that?
The $500 machine should be enough for 90% of users (especially since it now has HDMI), but the anti-Sony folk don't want to admit it since then they can't throw "OMG SIX HUNDRED DOLLARS" around any longer.
Anyone who really wants a PS3 that badly would have pre-ordered.
Considering that the preorders were sold out at everywhere that offered them within an extremely short amount of time, and that the quantities Sony is releasing are not large, I don't think it's that unrealistic.
There ARE people out there who really just have no lives. Hell, I work with someone who 100% WOULD be doing it if he didn't have the job, and even that is barely holding him back.
The problem is that they're a HUGE part of the current set of gamers out there. Now, if Nintendo's aim of getting non-gamers gaming works out, this won't be too much of a problem. If it doesn't? Well...
I was thinking that it wouldn't make TOO much of a difference, but after taking a look at the screenshots, I'm kind of disappointed. I mean, it doesn't really look any better than FFXII, which (despite being beautiful) is a little painful to play on a large screen.
Hopefully it won't matter in more cartoonish titles, but I can still see this being a big pain point for the Wii when it comes to the huge amount of "better looking = better" gamers out there.
That's one of the best things about Wright - he reads emails that people send him, and actually responds to them. He's added features from email suggestions, and sent out plenty of "this is why we can't do this" responses. Great guy.
Yeah, and nobody NEEDS more than 96kbit audio, and nobody NEEDS a 20" LCD, and nobody NEEDS a 7950GX2 video card, and nobody NEEDS a BMW, and nobody NEEDS a big house with a large yard, and nobody NEEDS gourmet food.
That's bull. If it happened the other way around, and Microsoft prevented some company from selling a product for a price MS thought was too low, everyone would be up in arms about how Microsoft shouldn't be interfering, and that it should be a free market, and publishers should be able to charge what they want.
Lets face it, square has been coasting off of FF7, has had some serious blunders since then
IIRC, the Kingdom Hearts series actually did quite well, and FFXII comes out in less than two weeks, and many say it's the best one out of the past couple console generations. If you're going to count Enix in there, DQ8 was very strong as well. They seem to be turning themselves around.
Really? I didn't read about about next-gen games taking up the space
Yet.
It's like this. You live in a 15-mile radius bubble. There are a lot of people who live there with you, but the space is efficiently used, and you've got enough entertainment to keep you happy... then progress hits. Your bubble expands to a 100-mile radius. Many people just expand their houses, and use the extra space for the same old things, since they don't know anything else. The people with grand ideas, though, are the ones to watch - pretty soon they've got huge areas of land being used for entertainment, farming, parks, and just generally improving life. After a certain amount of time, you'll start to wonder how you ever used to live without it.
Over the years, this has been how it is with storage space. I never thought I could fill an 80MB hard drive, then I started putting games on there... Then I never thought I could fill a 540MB hard drive, until I started putting music on there... Then I never thought I could fill a 6GB hard drive, until I started putting video on there... Now? I have around 300GB full and I'm thinking that I could never fill 1TB. What next? Who knows, but now that the space is available, someone will come up with a great idea of how to use it, and we'll eventually wonder what we did without that.
Think - 15 years ago did you ever think you'd have full song albums and movies on your computer? No, because nobody THOUGHT to do that since storage was so small, but at the same time, people thought they had tons of space and that any more would be unnecessary. "640k should be enough for anyone..."
More storage is ALWAYS welcome, and people will ALWAYS find a good use for it.
and at a projected 1800 bucks a BD player youre looking at the requirement for even more obscene amounts of cash..
You do know that there's going to be a $499 Blu-Ray player coming out in November, right? Word on the street is that it also plays some pretty sweet games.
1080P displays aren't TOO expensive. I got a 42" 1080P LCD for $1499. The 37" was $1199 at the time. Still a good amount of money, but definitely not only for the "RICH".
The question is, will online retailer put the same pressure on producers for ESRB ratings as companies like Wal-mart and Bestbuy?
That's doubtful, and for a pretty straightforward reason - you need a credit card to buy things online. Makes it a lot harder for kids to grab an "M" game.
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Which ironically results in them ending up on EBay anyway, sold to the highest-bidding rich guy. ... and then Sony gets blamed anyway by the morons like Zonk who claim that the profiteering is somehow Sony's fault.
Wow, that auction reeks of shill bidding.
That said, it's funny to see the same fanbois that criticized MS for all of the issues surrounding the 360 launch (fights, eBay profiteering, etc.), run to Sony's defense when it happens to their console launch.
Fanboys? How about people who just think that it's absolutely ridiculous and nonsensical to blame the company? It wasn't Microsoft's fault, it's not Sony's fault, and it won't be Nintendo's fault at the Wii launch.
You can blame both companies for just not making enough supply to meet demand
Er, no, you can't blame the companies. They are/were pumping them out as quickly as they can/could. The blame here (if there is any in the first place) lies solely with the people doing it. Honestly, what are the companies supposed to do? Only begin to sell them once they have enough for EVERYONE IN THE WORLD who wants one to buy one?
Artificial scarcity? They're having slow production. You think they only WANT to have this many units for the Japan and US launch, and push the Europe launch back so far? When Nintendo is launching a highly-awaited product at the same time?
This is not Sony's fault in the least, and it REALLY shows how anti-Sony these boards are with people actually claiming that it is.
Oh my god! Someone who understands economics! GET OUT! YOU'RE NOT WELCOME ON SLASHDOT!
You mean the castrated version that has no wifi so your psp can't talk to it? I mean, I don't have a PSP, because I got over being a sony fanboy, but I'd be pissed. Oh and it has a tiny hard drive. Fuck'em.
Er, I doubt THAT many people care about linking a PSP to a PS3, and "tiny hard drive"? It's 20GB, the same size as in the 360, and 20GB more than the Wii has. How can you bash them on that?
The $500 machine should be enough for 90% of users (especially since it now has HDMI), but the anti-Sony folk don't want to admit it since then they can't throw "OMG SIX HUNDRED DOLLARS" around any longer.
Anyone who really wants a PS3 that badly would have pre-ordered.
Considering that the preorders were sold out at everywhere that offered them within an extremely short amount of time, and that the quantities Sony is releasing are not large, I don't think it's that unrealistic.
There ARE people out there who really just have no lives. Hell, I work with someone who 100% WOULD be doing it if he didn't have the job, and even that is barely holding him back.
They're all, imo, fucking tools.
The problem is that they're a HUGE part of the current set of gamers out there. Now, if Nintendo's aim of getting non-gamers gaming works out, this won't be too much of a problem. If it doesn't? Well...
I was thinking that it wouldn't make TOO much of a difference, but after taking a look at the screenshots, I'm kind of disappointed. I mean, it doesn't really look any better than FFXII, which (despite being beautiful) is a little painful to play on a large screen.
Hopefully it won't matter in more cartoonish titles, but I can still see this being a big pain point for the Wii when it comes to the huge amount of "better looking = better" gamers out there.
When I look at the American Best Buy site, I don't see similar bundles being offered.
Not Best Buy... Amazon's doing it, though.
That's one of the best things about Wright - he reads emails that people send him, and actually responds to them. He's added features from email suggestions, and sent out plenty of "this is why we can't do this" responses. Great guy.
Sony: Our online service is free!
Nintendo: Our online service is free!
Microsoft's response?: Not only do you have to pay for the best parts of our service, we're now going to make you pay for the mediocre parts as well!
There goes the whole "XBox Live Gold for free in response to Sony and Nintendo" hypothesis...
Yeah, and nobody NEEDS more than 96kbit audio, and nobody NEEDS a 20" LCD, and nobody NEEDS a 7950GX2 video card, and nobody NEEDS a BMW, and nobody NEEDS a big house with a large yard, and nobody NEEDS gourmet food.
They sure are nice, though, aren't they?
That's bull. If it happened the other way around, and Microsoft prevented some company from selling a product for a price MS thought was too low, everyone would be up in arms about how Microsoft shouldn't be interfering, and that it should be a free market, and publishers should be able to charge what they want.
Oh, yeah, I'm sure they'd pay Slashdot to run an article saying "Is Second Life actually useful at all?"
Lets face it, square has been coasting off of FF7, has had some serious blunders since then
IIRC, the Kingdom Hearts series actually did quite well, and FFXII comes out in less than two weeks, and many say it's the best one out of the past couple console generations. If you're going to count Enix in there, DQ8 was very strong as well. They seem to be turning themselves around.
You know, I'm normally the one on this site that's defending Microsoft, because I think they're treated too harshly around here, but...
Microsoft needs to step into this as a consumer advocate
aaaaaaahahahahahahaha!
Really? I didn't read about about next-gen games taking up the space
Yet.
It's like this. You live in a 15-mile radius bubble. There are a lot of people who live there with you, but the space is efficiently used, and you've got enough entertainment to keep you happy... then progress hits. Your bubble expands to a 100-mile radius. Many people just expand their houses, and use the extra space for the same old things, since they don't know anything else. The people with grand ideas, though, are the ones to watch - pretty soon they've got huge areas of land being used for entertainment, farming, parks, and just generally improving life. After a certain amount of time, you'll start to wonder how you ever used to live without it.
Over the years, this has been how it is with storage space. I never thought I could fill an 80MB hard drive, then I started putting games on there... Then I never thought I could fill a 540MB hard drive, until I started putting music on there... Then I never thought I could fill a 6GB hard drive, until I started putting video on there... Now? I have around 300GB full and I'm thinking that I could never fill 1TB. What next? Who knows, but now that the space is available, someone will come up with a great idea of how to use it, and we'll eventually wonder what we did without that.
Think - 15 years ago did you ever think you'd have full song albums and movies on your computer? No, because nobody THOUGHT to do that since storage was so small, but at the same time, people thought they had tons of space and that any more would be unnecessary. "640k should be enough for anyone..."
More storage is ALWAYS welcome, and people will ALWAYS find a good use for it.
GTA Perl
All that will do is inspire people to see how many cars they can pile in the smallest area possible.
hmmm, kinda like that whole "its not the size, its how you use it" sexual innuendo line.
Sorry, but what the girls never told you is that they want both the size AND have it be well-used.
Some game companies will waste the space, but it's best to have it there for the ones who will use it to completely blow you away.
IIRC, Google has about half of the search market. Not exactly a monopoly.
The US *DOES* have a seriously bad management culture which is a far bigger threat than outsourcing IMHO.
Maybe we should outsource the management.
and at a projected 1800 bucks a BD player youre looking at the requirement for even more obscene amounts of cash..
You do know that there's going to be a $499 Blu-Ray player coming out in November, right? Word on the street is that it also plays some pretty sweet games.
1080P displays aren't TOO expensive. I got a 42" 1080P LCD for $1499. The 37" was $1199 at the time. Still a good amount of money, but definitely not only for the "RICH".
Whether it is or not, that's the only defense they have. You can't tell a 35-year-old "you shouldn't be playing this".
The question is, will online retailer put the same pressure on producers for ESRB ratings as companies like Wal-mart and Bestbuy?
That's doubtful, and for a pretty straightforward reason - you need a credit card to buy things online. Makes it a lot harder for kids to grab an "M" game.