The desktop computer as a gaming rig will never die until I can write game code for consoles or cell phones without a desktop computer being somewhere in the pipeline, as it is ground zero for any game development effort.
Its easier to get set up and develop games on the PC than it is any other platform. As such, it has a much larger independent development community and has more choices when picking games.
Don't even get me started on the cost of indy development on consoles either. Its gotten better in recent years, but you usually still have to buy a platform development kit, which usually isn't cheap.
Simple: we don't. Future generations of 10.000 years will probably have the means to detect radioactive sites from the other end of the galaxy. And mabye they'll even have the means to dispose of them quickly and safely. So why warn them? We should be more concerned about how to warn people in the more near future, like 200-500 years...
Try answering the question without assuming that we managed to avoid having to go back to the stone age due to war, plague, famine, etc.
Better to have it and not need it than to need it and not have it.
Always kinda blew my mind when people get anal about specific technologies.
Do I know JavaEE? PHP? Ajax?
Doesn't matter.
Why?
Because I know programming. WTF does that mean? It means that language/technology is irrelevant because it takes me a matter of days to pick up on new languages/technologies.
Anyone who touts a single language as some kind of achievement is fucking pathetic.
Do you like computers and their applications to business? MIS degree Electrical components? electrical engineering degree computer hardware? computer engineering degree maybe you like money? law or medicine an easy piece of paper? anything liberal arts
No offense, but why the hell did you pick CS if you don't enjoy programming? That's kindof like majoring in psychology when you hate dealing with or analyzing people.
A vote against a Libertarian candidate is a vote to abolish the Constitution itself.
Oh yeah? Check this out:
A vote against a Republican candidate is a vote to let the terrorists win.
or:
A vote against a Democratic candidate is a vote for fascism.
Or how about:
A vote against my nuts is a vote to destroy humanity and eat dick cheese.
All of it makes a perfect sense, don't it? How easy any issue can be to understand when it is described with a one-liner. Nevermind the lack of merit behind the one-liners. Just try to make them sound witty.
Modding me down is a form of censorship. So: Fuck you, flame on and all that good shit.
Look, "don't be evil" or not, this is politics they're talking about. The game itself is evil and behaving ethically will only get you ripped apart. That's the game. Don't wanna be evil? Don't play politics and let an evil organization with bigger balls than you ruin your life. Binary choice.
Real saints don't exist. Life is shit, get over it.
However, how many people can honestly say they went to college to learn?
I can.
I was a high school dropout. They somehow let me take classes at age 18 at a technical school without a GED. I had been working with computers since the age of 8 and writing code since 16. I now have several vendor specific certifications and 6 years of employment under my belt. I'm salaried at 35k in Oklahoma City, which has a relatively low cost of living. I'm 24 years old. I'm not an ambitious person. 35k here in OKC will suffice for the rest of my life because I'm not materialistic and do not require expensive material possessions to be happy. No family. No, I don't intend to ever retire either. My thought is that you'll have plenty of time to rest when your dead and in the ground.
I recently got a GED and enrolled at OU (Physics). I'm not going to college for a job. I'm already proficient in a trade. I can make good money for where I live. I can honestly say that I'm going to college to learn. I realize that I'm not normal, but that's fine by me.
I'm not really countering anything that you've said in your post. I acknowledge that many people feel the same way that you do. It's just that there are also many people that do not think of college the way that you do.
Sorry, it's late and I need sleep. Correction to my above post: the Doom3 source code wasn't leaked, just the binaries were. Either way, ATI had access.
We know out OpenGL drivers and kernel module really have a looooong way to go on Linux and Id knows it, too. They didn't provide feedback for us to start finding/fixing the showstopper bugs early enough (should have started a few years ago maybe?) so there you are - it doesn't work.
I hear what you're saying, but I can't help but to find this amusing. IIRC, it was allegedly an ATI employee that leaked the Doom3 alpha source code. I could be wrong on that but even so, the E3 alpha itself ran on an ATI. You can't tell me that ATI didn't know then what code path id was using. ATI is just making excuses.
How would they make profit implementing OpenGL on linux?
Doing so would make ATI competitive with nVidia in another market. Sure, a niche market maybe, but a market nonetheless. Furthermore, this niche market is growing and those who are familiar with Linux are being left with a sour taste in their mouths when it comes to ATI's drivers. As another poster pointed out, failing to make decent drivers for multiple OS's results in competent Linux geeks recommending nVidia over ATI when asked to make said recommendation.
ATi cards' initial problems with Linux were due to a lack of driver support for Doom III. (...) Regardless of whether a game is based on an OpenGL or Direct3D API, the graphics card vendor's driver must support the game.
Bullshit. What's the fucking point of utilizing any API for any development if you have to have the vendor modify it to work with your product? I suppose that absolutely no OpenGL game ever works under linux without ATI modifying thier drivers to specifically support that game? There's a lot of games out there. Good luck implementing support at the driver level for each and every one of them, ATI.
It just pisses me off to see ATI try to pass this off as id's problem, when in reality there wouldn't be any fucking problem if ATI were make a proper implementation of OpenGL on linux, instead of focusing entirely on D3D/Win32.
Failing or non-functional organs can prevent people from reaching reproductive ages. Natural selection would normally weed out these defective genes from the gene pool because these people wouldn't live long enough to reproduce.
However, natural selection doesn't apply because of organ transplants and other forms of medicine. Having a healthy body is no longer a requirement of surviving to a reproductive age because an organ transplant can make up for this genetic defect.
The problem I see is that an organ transplant doesn't remove the defective gene from the gene pool. Because of transplants, these gene carriers are now capable of living to reproductive age and possibly passing thier genes on to a new generation.
These genes are not being removed from our gene pool as they once were. Eventually, they won't be weeded out at all and will increase in frequency.
Over time, the human race will evolve into a frail people that are horribly dependent on medicine.
I'm sure this isn't a new concept, but I just thought I'd open it to discussion. Ideas anyone?
maybe - you should look at who sources dell's products, and buy direct from them.
This is not feasable in a large enterprise without creating a computer manufacturing department. Small shops, sure, go ahead. Enterprises? They'd loose whatever profit they made on the cost of employing people to build them. The only way to save money in large scale computer building like that is to do it in large quantities, just like Dell does. I'm sorry, but proposing that large businesses should build thier own computers is asinine.
As far as I'm concerned, Valve fucking bitched all of you piraters, good luck.
They also bitched paying customers. Once you've played the game one time in multiplayer, then you can't even play single player without being required to have an internet connection. I guess laptop and dialup users are screwed. No thank you. I think I'll pass on HL2...
There are many shops where locking the user down is counter productive. Sometimes users need to add USB hardware, which need drivers, which need some local admin rights. Manually doing this yourself for the users in small shops is feasable, but in large enterprises?
An example would be universities. I have to take my USB drive to the computer labs without restrictions in order to use it. These same computers also have dev software for student use.
My point is, sometimes being a policy nazi isn't an option. When possible, yes, lock it down, but you can't always do this.
I concur. I've seen the free soda area myself in thier Dallas branch when I was there taking SQL 2000 Clustering training. Thier cafeteria is sweet too.
Too bad the training sucked. There were problems with it(no printed materials and the lab computers weren't set up at all). We were eventually refunded for the course, mind you, but it was still a wasted trip to Dallas, IMHO.
Where I worked, everyone had to be clean shaven and wear a suit and tie. Kinda made me jealous when we saw long haired employees wearing t-shirts and shorts.
I bet it would be sweet to work for Microsoft.
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Have you considered that the high price wasn't due to the brand or model of NIC the tech was installing, but instead it was overpriced because you were buying it from him?
To my knowledge(I may be wrong), most techs who go to homes to install/setup broadband are contract labor, i.e. not company employees, so they can pretty much screw you on a whim. Even if he was a company employee, it may have been company policy to over-price the NICs.
My point is that he might have over-charged you even if he installed a no-name piece of shit.
Mod me offtopic if you want, but I'd like to point out that independent game developers have begun to realize the potential market for games on the Mac.
For example, GarageGames is an independent game publisher whose majority of titles are available for Windows, Mac, and Linux. From what I understand, the profits they make from Linux and Mac versions combined comes awfully close to the profits made from Windows versions.
Now, if only larger publishers would see this market, then... well... then I suppose the Mac gaming market would become just as saturated as the PC game market. This could be good or bad, depending on your point of view.
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The desktop computer as a gaming rig will never die until I can write game code for consoles or cell phones without a desktop computer being somewhere in the pipeline, as it is ground zero for any game development effort.
Its easier to get set up and develop games on the PC than it is any other platform. As such, it has a much larger independent development community and has more choices when picking games.
Don't even get me started on the cost of indy development on consoles either. Its gotten better in recent years, but you usually still have to buy a platform development kit, which usually isn't cheap.
Try answering the question without assuming that we managed to avoid having to go back to the stone age due to war, plague, famine, etc.
Better to have it and not need it than to need it and not have it.
Always kinda blew my mind when people get anal about specific technologies.
Do I know JavaEE? PHP? Ajax?
Doesn't matter.
Why?
Because I know programming. WTF does that mean? It means that language/technology is irrelevant because it takes me a matter of days to pick up on new languages/technologies.
Anyone who touts a single language as some kind of achievement is fucking pathetic.
FLAME ON!
A non programmer who majored in CS? Why?
Do you like computers and their applications to business? MIS degree
Electrical components? electrical engineering degree
computer hardware? computer engineering degree
maybe you like money? law or medicine
an easy piece of paper? anything liberal arts
No offense, but why the hell did you pick CS if you don't enjoy programming? That's kindof like majoring in psychology when you hate dealing with or analyzing people.
my personal experience is that the Apple hardware is far superior and requires less upgrades and that is why the cost is much more.
Right... because Apple's memory comes from a *completely* different part of Tiawan than Dell's.
Oh yeah? Check this out:
A vote against a Republican candidate is a vote to let the terrorists win.
or:
A vote against a Democratic candidate is a vote for fascism.
Or how about:
A vote against my nuts is a vote to destroy humanity and eat dick cheese.
All of it makes a perfect sense, don't it? How easy any issue can be to understand when it is described with a one-liner. Nevermind the lack of merit behind the one-liners. Just try to make them sound witty.
Modding me down is a form of censorship. So: Fuck you, flame on and all that good shit.
Look, "don't be evil" or not, this is politics they're talking about. The game itself is evil and behaving ethically will only get you ripped apart. That's the game. Don't wanna be evil? Don't play politics and let an evil organization with bigger balls than you ruin your life. Binary choice.
Real saints don't exist. Life is shit, get over it.
They're also largely responsible for putting a computer on every desk at the office, in every home on your street and in every device that you own.
They're also largely responsible for creating an environment suitable for SkyNet's takeover. Watch the movies.
except for bloggers and pundits
Right, because we all know that bloggers and pundits are all credible rocket scientists.
Just because you have an opinion, doesn't mean that it's worth anything. (I'm not referering to you. I'm refering to bloggers and pundits).
Anyway, flame on, and all that good shit.
However, how many people can honestly say they went to college to learn?
I can.
I was a high school dropout. They somehow let me take classes at age 18 at a technical school without a GED. I had been working with computers since the age of 8 and writing code since 16. I now have several vendor specific certifications and 6 years of employment under my belt. I'm salaried at 35k in Oklahoma City, which has a relatively low cost of living. I'm 24 years old. I'm not an ambitious person. 35k here in OKC will suffice for the rest of my life because I'm not materialistic and do not require expensive material possessions to be happy. No family. No, I don't intend to ever retire either. My thought is that you'll have plenty of time to rest when your dead and in the ground.
I recently got a GED and enrolled at OU (Physics). I'm not going to college for a job. I'm already proficient in a trade. I can make good money for where I live. I can honestly say that I'm going to college to learn. I realize that I'm not normal, but that's fine by me.
I'm not really countering anything that you've said in your post. I acknowledge that many people feel the same way that you do. It's just that there are also many people that do not think of college the way that you do.
Food for thought, nothing more.....
Sorry, it's late and I need sleep. Correction to my above post: the Doom3 source code wasn't leaked, just the binaries were. Either way, ATI had access.
We know out OpenGL drivers and kernel module really have a looooong way to go on Linux and Id knows it, too. They didn't provide feedback for us to start finding/fixing the showstopper bugs early enough (should have started a few years ago maybe?) so there you are - it doesn't work.
I hear what you're saying, but I can't help but to find this amusing. IIRC, it was allegedly an ATI employee that leaked the Doom3 alpha source code. I could be wrong on that but even so, the E3 alpha itself ran on an ATI. You can't tell me that ATI didn't know then what code path id was using. ATI is just making excuses.
If I'm wrong, someone please correct me.
How would they make profit implementing OpenGL on linux?
Doing so would make ATI competitive with nVidia in another market. Sure, a niche market maybe, but a market nonetheless. Furthermore, this niche market is growing and those who are familiar with Linux are being left with a sour taste in their mouths when it comes to ATI's drivers. As another poster pointed out, failing to make decent drivers for multiple OS's results in competent Linux geeks recommending nVidia over ATI when asked to make said recommendation.
From the article:
ATi cards' initial problems with Linux were due to a lack of driver support for Doom III. (...) Regardless of whether a game is based on an OpenGL or Direct3D API, the graphics card vendor's driver must support the game.
Bullshit. What's the fucking point of utilizing any API for any development if you have to have the vendor modify it to work with your product? I suppose that absolutely no OpenGL game ever works under linux without ATI modifying thier drivers to specifically support that game? There's a lot of games out there. Good luck implementing support at the driver level for each and every one of them, ATI.
It just pisses me off to see ATI try to pass this off as id's problem, when in reality there wouldn't be any fucking problem if ATI were make a proper implementation of OpenGL on linux, instead of focusing entirely on D3D/Win32.
End rant. Flame on, and all that good shit.
This is an idea that I've pondered before.
Failing or non-functional organs can prevent people from reaching reproductive ages. Natural selection would normally weed out these defective genes from the gene pool because these people wouldn't live long enough to reproduce.
However, natural selection doesn't apply because of organ transplants and other forms of medicine. Having a healthy body is no longer a requirement of surviving to a reproductive age because an organ transplant can make up for this genetic defect.
The problem I see is that an organ transplant doesn't remove the defective gene from the gene pool. Because of transplants, these gene carriers are now capable of living to reproductive age and possibly passing thier genes on to a new generation.
These genes are not being removed from our gene pool as they once were. Eventually, they won't be weeded out at all and will increase in frequency.
Over time, the human race will evolve into a frail people that are horribly dependent on medicine.
I'm sure this isn't a new concept, but I just thought I'd open it to discussion. Ideas anyone?
maybe - you should look at who sources dell's products, and buy direct from them.
This is not feasable in a large enterprise without creating a computer manufacturing department. Small shops, sure, go ahead. Enterprises? They'd loose whatever profit they made on the cost of employing people to build them. The only way to save money in large scale computer building like that is to do it in large quantities, just like Dell does. I'm sorry, but proposing that large businesses should build thier own computers is asinine.
As far as I'm concerned, Valve fucking bitched all of you piraters, good luck.
They also bitched paying customers. Once you've played the game one time in multiplayer, then you can't even play single player without being required to have an internet connection. I guess laptop and dialup users are screwed. No thank you. I think I'll pass on HL2...
There are many shops where locking the user down is counter productive. Sometimes users need to add USB hardware, which need drivers, which need some local admin rights. Manually doing this yourself for the users in small shops is feasable, but in large enterprises?
:D
An example would be universities. I have to take my USB drive to the computer labs without restrictions in order to use it. These same computers also have dev software for student use.
My point is, sometimes being a policy nazi isn't an option. When possible, yes, lock it down, but you can't always do this.
Oh, and I like your name
Anachronox.
One of my most favorite RPGs of all time. Flew under the radar due to everyone focusing on Diakatana.
I concur. I've seen the free soda area myself in thier Dallas branch when I was there taking SQL 2000 Clustering training. Thier cafeteria is sweet too.
Too bad the training sucked. There were problems with it(no printed materials and the lab computers weren't set up at all). We were eventually refunded for the course, mind you, but it was still a wasted trip to Dallas, IMHO.
Where I worked, everyone had to be clean shaven and wear a suit and tie. Kinda made me jealous when we saw long haired employees wearing t-shirts and shorts.
I bet it would be sweet to work for Microsoft.
My TI-86 claims the number to be 39.3700787402
FYI
I wonder if there will be an audio system to accompany the railgun.
"Headshot!"
Yes, still in production and selling for about US$25 a piece. Check www.pricewatch.com
Have you considered that the high price wasn't due to the brand or model of NIC the tech was installing, but instead it was overpriced because you were buying it from him?
To my knowledge(I may be wrong), most techs who go to homes to install/setup broadband are contract labor, i.e. not company employees, so they can pretty much screw you on a whim. Even if he was a company employee, it may have been company policy to over-price the NICs.
My point is that he might have over-charged you even if he installed a no-name piece of shit.
Just a thought.
All seven of them?!
Mod me offtopic if you want, but I'd like to point out that independent game developers have begun to realize the potential market for games on the Mac.
For example, GarageGames is an independent game publisher whose majority of titles are available for Windows, Mac, and Linux. From what I understand, the profits they make from Linux and Mac versions combined comes awfully close to the profits made from Windows versions.
Now, if only larger publishers would see this market, then... well... then I suppose the Mac gaming market would become just as saturated as the PC game market. This could be good or bad, depending on your point of view.