Let's see how far this goes, everybody loves to talk about Mars (which a human mission to that planet will always be 20 years into the future). I'd like to see these new space people think about the Moon, unlike old guys who seem to carry a lot of baggage, that is, any reference to the Moon, then it is always Apollo methods and design. Apollo may have been a great adventure but it was a one-off stunt designed specifically to beat the Reds. Because of its unique purpose it could not be fiscally sustained or readily adapted to other missions. And definitely not scalable to routine use. Which I wonder if systems of SpaceX and Blue Origins, is it scalable to economically routinely use like airlines and cargo ships?
I drive by this thing every day, it's big but not that big (at least how I perceive it). I read it is the size of the Pentagon (haven't researched or RTFA) but some reason the DOD building appears larger, or is it the shape? Also the Apple Saucer is surrounded by parking garages and walls.
I still file mine hardcopy in the mail since the 20th century. So no worries of internet hacking.
Actually one concern is throughout the years there have been staff cuts at IRS, and probably more soon. A friend who has a accounting/taxes business says Fresno office used to have a couple auditors that were good to work with (yes, not all tax audits are perilous, occasionally they want to review certain returns). So maybe filing hardcopy might soon be a thing of the past as less competent people to deal with returns.
The Saturn V, for example, was flown unmanned twice before it was deemed safe enough to put people on it.
in some ways the third flight was a "Hail Mary" pass, that second SaturnV flight was pretty hairy, but then there was a huge infrastructure of people and materials that pulled a lot of all-nighters to fix problems. Impetus was spy sat photos showing a really huge rocket at Baikonur, shortly after it was no longer there. Higher ups were thinking Soviets just test launched a Saturn V class rocket (they didn't know that at the time it blew up). So gotta beat the Reds to the Moon, and lunar module was not ready for a flight, and Apollo 8 was scheduled. I clearly remember on TV, "and that was the TLI burn that will send them to the Moon." In an instant the world was completely different. Especially after a terrible year, some good news particularly the famous earthrise photo.
Because if you want to land on the moon then somebody (and it's always somebody else) has to come with real money now for a lander. Oh, also need a transfer stage to get out of earth orbit to the Moon (more money). Also a service module (even more money) good enough for a earth return from lunar orbit, or TEI trans-earth-injection burn or as Michael Collins wrote, "the save-our-ass burn."
This is why everybody (except Paul Spudis and Dennis Wingo) talk about Mars because you can defer costs for transfer stage and lander to some other smucks 20 years into future.
Russians did score a big one though "we" made it easy for them so not much effort on their part. Lots of accusations, conspiracies, etc., all ya gotta do is read the forums from/. to reddit. In some articles about a Russian spy ship off US coast, many comments were about they deployed that because they lost their intelligence connection after Flynn resigned. Of course people are joking but damn now perception is Trump's cabinet members are considered not trustworthy for classified information. So how do those that handle this stuff going to feel now they have uneasy feeling of their leadership?
And certain towns that have large truckstops as their main activity will diminish like towns that had railway stations as their main activity? Just wondering. It seems this topic can be part of automation debate, like this lively one at reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/expla...
reminds me of isolationist/feudal Japan back in the days, closed themselves off from everyone else. Later 1800s they realized they have to get themselves out of the 6th century or they will be overrun by other countries.
It seems that as we stand right now, our education system is not working, right?
I think in general the public education system is inadequate in preparing people for technical careers (technical meaning engineer, technician, scientist, coder, whatever). While the Right blames the Left and the Left blames the Right, it seems to me not many high school grads can endure engineering college. Then there are technical professions like electricians, machinists, where it requires extensive training that is time consuming and expensive. I've heard engineering students are mostly foreign nationals (I guess domestic students prefer business and law) but also first year is mainly review for many of these foreign nationals that were taught much of the math and science in their high schools. Getting back to technicians, if you don't have much money difficult getting quality technical training.
In general, very general, a powerful rocket engine needs to pump large amounts of fuel and oxidizer at a very high rate. Then consider handling something like liquid oxygen is also very difficult. It's part of a system (nozzle, tank, feed lines) that operates at pressures and temperatures way beyond what's in your car. I like how you phrased the question, silly but actually quite honest. And consider searching for ***good*** info on rocket fuel pumps, lots of luck finding something worthwhile on the internet that enables you to build your own fuel pump equivalent to those for Merlin engine. There is some interesting historical mentions about struggles to achieve reliable pumps for Saturn V and Space Shuttle.
... And saying we can't find Americans with the skills!
I heard public school system in general does not sufficiently educate young people, and definitely nothing in the high tech field unless additional education after HS. Only two options after high school, minimum wage job or college. But if cannot afford college then have to take whatever job. There financial aid options but do many of these HS grads have what it takes to endure college or tech schools (if any)? I know there are many excellent high schools and their grads are quite capable. There are also many particularly inner cities where it is pretty grim.
from some info I found (I forgot who the originator is) and kept in my diatribes folder:
All of the following have been proposed as the words behind the letters DVD:
- Delayed, Very Delayed (referring to the many late releases of DVD formats)
- Diversified, Very Diversified (referring to the proliferation of recordable formats and other spinoffs)
- Digital Venereal Disease (referring to piracy and copying of DVDs)
- Dead, Very Dead (from naysayers who predicted DVD would never take off)
- Digital Video Disc (the original meaning proposed by some of DVD's creators)
- Digital Versatile Disc (a meaning later proposed by some of DVD's creators)
- Nothing
And the official answer is... "nothing." The original initialism came from "digital video disc." Some members of the DVD Forum (see 6.1) tried to express how DVD goes far beyond video by retrofitting the painfully contorted phrase "digital versatile disc," but this has never been officially accepted by the DVD Forum as a whole. A report from DVD Forum Steering Committee in 1999 decreed that DVD, as an international standard, is simply three letters. Nevertheless, Toshiba —the maintainer of the DVD Forum Web site— still confusingly prefers "digital video disc." And after all, how many people ask what VHS stands for? (Guess what? No one agrees on that one either.)
One fun thing Trump could do to get back at the screeching entertainment industry going after him; halve the current copyright expiration period.
well that would be interesting. I wonder what other "fun" stuff will come about in this new administration? i.e. for every one new movie, two old movies have to be eliminated? (quick! save those VHS and DVDs!)
. . . from Mr. "640K is all you'll ever need" (grin)
(and yes, I go back to DOS 2.x and Windows 1.x)
I was thinking perhaps go back to those days when United States was the United States ain't so bad after all. Hey there was usenet and a simple DOS machine is perfectly adequate for us to get on the forums and tell others what we really think.
me too. An interesting read was Wheeler talked about when cable tv started, there was a huge outcry and pushback from legacy OTA broadcasters. Wheeler said at the time OTA broadcasters limited new providers and and CATV will provide opportunities for new "channels." He then implied nowadays cable companies are limiting new providers and opportunities. Wheeler presented this better than what I wrote here but hope I got my point across.
Though they ain't cheap but I think Elon can buy one, or lease. I'm sure these are relatively safe as police and media regularly fly these things around the LA area. I haven't RTFA (who does?). This reminds me an article from Flying magazine in 1970s, "Fastest Way Around Town on the Slowest Thing Flying" about an air service using a Bell 47J (a variation of the famous "MASH" bubble helicopter) that has three passenger seats behind the pilot. This ferrys people between LAX to other spots around the area. Not sure if this is in place anymore, maybe they done away with things like this. i.e. back in the days Boeing Vertol flying to and from the Pan Am building in NYC. I haven't read comic books lately but what does Tony Stark use when not as Ironman to get around town?
There has been progress in robotic exploration. However, if we were able put a man on the Moon then why can't we put a man on the Moon? Reason is this is not the same country that did the Apollo program (yes, this is another one of my rants about space on the forums today).
Instead of Mars! It would be interesting to check out Apollo landing sites to see how materials have changed from 40 years of solar radiation. Maybe see how the bootprints have soften due to micrometeorites. Land in places that were out of reach for Apollo landing sites, survey for PGM materials. Check out a crater on the poles, get closer and greater analysis that LCROSS was not able to. See how much updates Paul Spudis and Dennis Wingo will have to do for their next books (these are the only two notable people that discussed the Moon, everyone else is fixated on Mars). Note for human space travel the Moon is only three days away but Mars will always be 20 years away.
Can you please tell me what it was that she did exactly
Me too, I always wondered what are these emails? What dirt do they contain? If Hillary is so bad, then how come her opponents never deliver the "goods." It's always generalizations and commentaries. How come Clinton never gives a brief concise answer without the need for a scripted choreographed answered subject to interpretation.
While they are at it, can they also find Jimmy Hoffa, Bigfoot, Nessie, and all the missing socks.
Taxes are pushing just about everyone to the breaking point,
no, it's the extreme cost of housing. granted the taxes you pay on an expensive home/condo are pretty high but then if you can't afford a million dollar home then paying taxes on it is moot. Unless like many renters are spending 80% of their income on housing which is not really sustainable. Yes the taxes can push you off to the breaking point. I find it amazing eveyone complains about high taxes, or they go into lots of details on business plans of all kinds of great tax writeoffs but yet not much discussion on net worth or real estate prices.
It seems there is ***only*** two kinds of people, those that agree with Trump and those who do not. None will come to a common ground, there will be no trades or bargaining. It will be either you go along with me or you can just f---off. Lots of luck for a united people.
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Let's see how far this goes, everybody loves to talk about Mars (which a human mission to that planet will always be 20 years into the future). I'd like to see these new space people think about the Moon, unlike old guys who seem to carry a lot of baggage, that is, any reference to the Moon, then it is always Apollo methods and design. Apollo may have been a great adventure but it was a one-off stunt designed specifically to beat the Reds. Because of its unique purpose it could not be fiscally sustained or readily adapted to other missions. And definitely not scalable to routine use. Which I wonder if systems of SpaceX and Blue Origins, is it scalable to economically routinely use like airlines and cargo ships?
I drive by this thing every day, it's big but not that big (at least how I perceive it). I read it is the size of the Pentagon (haven't researched or RTFA) but some reason the DOD building appears larger, or is it the shape? Also the Apple Saucer is surrounded by parking garages and walls.
I still file mine hardcopy in the mail since the 20th century. So no worries of internet hacking.
Actually one concern is throughout the years there have been staff cuts at IRS, and probably more soon. A friend who has a accounting/taxes business says Fresno office used to have a couple auditors that were good to work with (yes, not all tax audits are perilous, occasionally they want to review certain returns). So maybe filing hardcopy might soon be a thing of the past as less competent people to deal with returns.
The Saturn V, for example, was flown unmanned twice before it was deemed safe enough to put people on it.
in some ways the third flight was a "Hail Mary" pass, that second SaturnV flight was pretty hairy, but then there was a huge infrastructure of people and materials that pulled a lot of all-nighters to fix problems. Impetus was spy sat photos showing a really huge rocket at Baikonur, shortly after it was no longer there. Higher ups were thinking Soviets just test launched a Saturn V class rocket (they didn't know that at the time it blew up). So gotta beat the Reds to the Moon, and lunar module was not ready for a flight, and Apollo 8 was scheduled. I clearly remember on TV, "and that was the TLI burn that will send them to the Moon." In an instant the world was completely different. Especially after a terrible year, some good news particularly the famous earthrise photo.
Because if you want to land on the moon then somebody (and it's always somebody else) has to come with real money now for a lander. Oh, also need a transfer stage to get out of earth orbit to the Moon (more money). Also a service module (even more money) good enough for a earth return from lunar orbit, or TEI trans-earth-injection burn or as Michael Collins wrote, "the save-our-ass burn."
This is why everybody (except Paul Spudis and Dennis Wingo) talk about Mars because you can defer costs for transfer stage and lander to some other smucks 20 years into future.
Russians did score a big one though "we" made it easy for them so not much effort on their part. Lots of accusations, conspiracies, etc., all ya gotta do is read the forums from /. to reddit. In some articles about a Russian spy ship off US coast, many comments were about they deployed that because they lost their intelligence connection after Flynn resigned. Of course people are joking but damn now perception is Trump's cabinet members are considered not trustworthy for classified information. So how do those that handle this stuff going to feel now they have uneasy feeling of their leadership?
And certain towns that have large truckstops as their main activity will diminish like towns that had railway stations as their main activity? Just wondering. It seems this topic can be part of automation debate, like this lively one at reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/expla...
what about the Hammer Lady?
isolationist America- afraid of the world.
reminds me of isolationist/feudal Japan back in the days, closed themselves off from everyone else. Later 1800s they realized they have to get themselves out of the 6th century or they will be overrun by other countries.
It seems that as we stand right now, our education system is not working, right?
I think in general the public education system is inadequate in preparing people for technical careers (technical meaning engineer, technician, scientist, coder, whatever). While the Right blames the Left and the Left blames the Right, it seems to me not many high school grads can endure engineering college. Then there are technical professions like electricians, machinists, where it requires extensive training that is time consuming and expensive. I've heard engineering students are mostly foreign nationals (I guess domestic students prefer business and law) but also first year is mainly review for many of these foreign nationals that were taught much of the math and science in their high schools. Getting back to technicians, if you don't have much money difficult getting quality technical training.
In general, very general, a powerful rocket engine needs to pump large amounts of fuel and oxidizer at a very high rate. Then consider handling something like liquid oxygen is also very difficult. It's part of a system (nozzle, tank, feed lines) that operates at pressures and temperatures way beyond what's in your car. I like how you phrased the question, silly but actually quite honest. And consider searching for ***good*** info on rocket fuel pumps, lots of luck finding something worthwhile on the internet that enables you to build your own fuel pump equivalent to those for Merlin engine. There is some interesting historical mentions about struggles to achieve reliable pumps for Saturn V and Space Shuttle.
I must have spent too much time reading movie details, trivia, goofs, and background of various cast.
... And saying we can't find Americans with the skills!
I heard public school system in general does not sufficiently educate young people, and definitely nothing in the high tech field unless additional education after HS. Only two options after high school, minimum wage job or college. But if cannot afford college then have to take whatever job. There financial aid options but do many of these HS grads have what it takes to endure college or tech schools (if any)? I know there are many excellent high schools and their grads are quite capable. There are also many particularly inner cities where it is pretty grim.
DVD? is that?
from some info I found (I forgot who the originator is) and kept in my diatribes folder:
All of the following have been proposed as the words behind the letters DVD:
- Delayed, Very Delayed (referring to the many late releases of DVD formats)
- Diversified, Very Diversified (referring to the proliferation of recordable formats and other spinoffs)
- Digital Venereal Disease (referring to piracy and copying of DVDs)
- Dead, Very Dead (from naysayers who predicted DVD would never take off)
- Digital Video Disc (the original meaning proposed by some of DVD's creators)
- Digital Versatile Disc (a meaning later proposed by some of DVD's creators)
- Nothing
And the official answer is... "nothing." The original initialism came from "digital video disc." Some members of the DVD Forum (see 6.1) tried to express how DVD goes far beyond video by retrofitting the painfully contorted phrase "digital versatile disc," but this has never been officially accepted by the DVD Forum as a whole. A report from DVD Forum Steering Committee in 1999 decreed that DVD, as an international standard, is simply three letters. Nevertheless, Toshiba —the maintainer of the DVD Forum Web site— still confusingly prefers "digital video disc." And after all, how many people ask what VHS stands for? (Guess what? No one agrees on that one either.)
One fun thing Trump could do to get back at the screeching entertainment industry going after him; halve the current copyright expiration period.
well that would be interesting. I wonder what other "fun" stuff will come about in this new administration? i.e. for every one new movie, two old movies have to be eliminated? (quick! save those VHS and DVDs!)
. . . from Mr. "640K is all you'll ever need" (grin)
(and yes, I go back to DOS 2.x and Windows 1.x)
I was thinking perhaps go back to those days when United States was the United States ain't so bad after all. Hey there was usenet and a simple DOS machine is perfectly adequate for us to get on the forums and tell others what we really think.
I didn't RTFA but I'm thinking it's an oxymoron to expect less advertisement in the future.
I have to admit, I pegged Wheeler wrong.
me too. An interesting read was Wheeler talked about when cable tv started, there was a huge outcry and pushback from legacy OTA broadcasters. Wheeler said at the time OTA broadcasters limited new providers and and CATV will provide opportunities for new "channels." He then implied nowadays cable companies are limiting new providers and opportunities. Wheeler presented this better than what I wrote here but hope I got my point across.
...emotional American commenter.
hey, we're good at making highly charged comments like we're an authority of the subject matter even though we ain't got a clue what it is.
Though they ain't cheap but I think Elon can buy one, or lease. I'm sure these are relatively safe as police and media regularly fly these things around the LA area. I haven't RTFA (who does?). This reminds me an article from Flying magazine in 1970s, "Fastest Way Around Town on the Slowest Thing Flying" about an air service using a Bell 47J (a variation of the famous "MASH" bubble helicopter) that has three passenger seats behind the pilot. This ferrys people between LAX to other spots around the area. Not sure if this is in place anymore, maybe they done away with things like this. i.e. back in the days Boeing Vertol flying to and from the Pan Am building in NYC. I haven't read comic books lately but what does Tony Stark use when not as Ironman to get around town?
There has been progress in robotic exploration. However, if we were able put a man on the Moon then why can't we put a man on the Moon? Reason is this is not the same country that did the Apollo program (yes, this is another one of my rants about space on the forums today).
Instead of Mars! It would be interesting to check out Apollo landing sites to see how materials have changed from 40 years of solar radiation. Maybe see how the bootprints have soften due to micrometeorites. Land in places that were out of reach for Apollo landing sites, survey for PGM materials. Check out a crater on the poles, get closer and greater analysis that LCROSS was not able to. See how much updates Paul Spudis and Dennis Wingo will have to do for their next books (these are the only two notable people that discussed the Moon, everyone else is fixated on Mars). Note for human space travel the Moon is only three days away but Mars will always be 20 years away.
Can you please tell me what it was that she did exactly
Me too, I always wondered what are these emails? What dirt do they contain? If Hillary is so bad, then how come her opponents never deliver the "goods." It's always generalizations and commentaries. How come Clinton never gives a brief concise answer without the need for a scripted choreographed answered subject to interpretation.
While they are at it, can they also find Jimmy Hoffa, Bigfoot, Nessie, and all the missing socks.
Taxes are pushing just about everyone to the breaking point,
no, it's the extreme cost of housing. granted the taxes you pay on an expensive home/condo are pretty high but then if you can't afford a million dollar home then paying taxes on it is moot. Unless like many renters are spending 80% of their income on housing which is not really sustainable. Yes the taxes can push you off to the breaking point. I find it amazing eveyone complains about high taxes, or they go into lots of details on business plans of all kinds of great tax writeoffs but yet not much discussion on net worth or real estate prices.
It seems there is ***only*** two kinds of people, those that agree with Trump and those who do not. None will come to a common ground, there will be no trades or bargaining. It will be either you go along with me or you can just f---off. Lots of luck for a united people.