I was going on this link, that I should have read more carefully before posting that date. Coding started late '89, it was used internally during '90, the first release was in early '91.
But of course, there's nothing that comes close to CPAN anywhere else. It's also beautiful to see a CPAN install, automatically grabbing lots of modules and installing everything correctly:-). There are only a few Linux distributions that can do the same sort of thing, I think.
The only *weakness* that comes to mind is that it's a younger language.
This is the second time someone mentions this. Perl is from the end of 1987, Python from the end of 1989. Not enough difference to be a concern now, I'd say.
I think Perl mostly seems older as it rode the wave of CGI scripting, and became popular as the CGI language. So a lot of people heard of it before they heard of Python, and it seems that Perl is a lot older. But really they're from the same period.
All the code I wrote for my thesis (text analysis, decision trees, genetic algorithms). On the job, scripting - backup scripts, hacking up the output from a database designer program into input xml files for Torque (Java data objects library). At home, a lot of little scripts, most notably the thing that drives mpg123 for me.
What are its strengths and its weaknesses?
Strengths: It's fun to code. It can be extremely powerful in a few lines and still stay readable. The standard library is very powerful. Well written Python is immediately readable for someone who hasn't seen the language before. Really beautiful and flexible system of OO, object attributes, modules, functions that are first class objects, etc. Many of the constructs just make total sense when you're a computer scientist.
Weaknesses: somewhat slow. In some situations you want to have strict compile time checks (for applications I personally use Java, not Python).
Why is it worth learning another programming language?
What a question! It's always worth learning another programming language, it makes you a better programmer.
You guys remind of the people who say that the whole uproar over Y2K wasn't necessary. Nothing happened, so that proves the whole prevention effort was unnecessary, right? All overblown hype!
But a lot of stuff was actually fixed. There would have been problems if it hadn't been attacked like that. Of course the media was too sensationalistic about it, but Y2K was a problem, or at least it could have been.
SARS turned out not to be that big of a problem. There was a huge containment effort and much media hype. People keep pointing out that the flu kills many more people.
So what do they suggest should have been done? Just give them anti biotics and see what happens? The reason SARS was not such a huge problem at the end is precisely because of the huge containment effort. What if SARS had been allowed to spread so that it had affected just 1% of the people who get flu every year? Major disaster, and by that time it would have been impossible to contain.
I think WHO did exactly the right thing, especially since so little was known about the virus. Most diseases take centuries to wipe out, we actually managed to contain SARS before it became widespread! Sounds to me that's exactly what we have organizations like the WHO for, and it actually worked.
Of course the media hype meant that the economy was hurt more than it had to be. It wasn't perfect. But I think we can be pretty happy, overall.
Why is everybody here always whining about giving poor countries food first, and then IT and stuff?
I believe in giving them a fishing rod instead of a few fish.
We can give them food. We can even give them means to grow food by. But they'll never be able to afford them for themselves. They stay dependent on foreign help.
The other thing we can do is help them make their own money. For that, the most important thing they need is education, the second is something to sell in this global economy.
The Internet is the best and cheapest way to get to information necessary for an education. Books are too expensive. Also, if they're going to have something to sell apart from bananas, they will need IT infrastructure for it in this day and age.
Getting good connectivity there is very important. There already is a fast cable running along the West African coast (SAT-3) but it's mostly unused since the land network isn't there. If Wi-Fi can help that (should be easier to setup than cable everywhere), great!
Firstly, of course the moon rotates as well. It just rotates at the same angular velocity at which it orbits Earth, so we always see the same face. This is caused by a process called tidal lock.
Mercury is in tidal lock with the sun. But because its trajectory is elliptical, it's not a 1:1 lock, but a 3:2 lock: there are 3 Mercury days in 2 Mercury years.
A Mercury day is 58.6 Earth days, a Mercury year is 88 Earth days, according to this fact sheet. 58.6 days should be enough for most missions.
BrightMail's method can only find spam. Their honeypots have absolutely no legitimate use, so all the mail they get must be spam: untargetted, mass mailing, to an unchecked, harvested list of addresses.
Ok, so they have 100% certain spam mail examples. How do they then use them to block new mail? Do they block the From:? That can be forged, and is often a real innocent person. Do they block the IP? That may well be a normal mail server. Etc.
This is just a naive thought, but I was wondering how they solved this.
Just to add some info, in the Netherlands (and surely also in Denmark), you'd need legal identification for that - basically either a passport or EU id card. These are hard to fake (we get new passports with improved technology about every six years or so) and have a photograph on them.
It seems that in the US there's no actual identification at all? And it's legally binding? Wow.
I mentioned that I felt that Senator Hatch bears ultimate responsiblity for what is on his website and that I felt like he should own up to it.
Personally I don't believe he himself is responsible. But what's ironic is that he himself is arguing that his computer ought to be destroyed over this...
With the demise of so called 'blue collar' jobs and now the demise of 'white collar' jobs, what, if anything will actually be done in developed western countries like the United States and Europe?
Our economies will go down, our money will go down, until at last we're competitive again, albeit at a somewhat lower standard of living. In exchange for which, theirs will be somewhat raised.
The good thing is, that in theory, the average level of the world should go up, since this sort of thing is more efficient. But globalization is the great equalizer - and we're way on top at the moment.
You don't need to require someone to have full production capacity. All that is required is to only allow patents on a specific method of making a TurboWidget. If you could make it, then you can write that specific method down, and if you couldn't, then you can't. And that's what's supposed to be the case now - but seems to have been forgotten.
Amsterdam (not "New Amsterdam", which got renamed to New York), is the capital of the Netherlands. Like any Dutch city it has a relaxed attitude towards soft drugs and prostitution (soft drugs are "tolerated", which means practically legal, prostitution is fully legal).
However, the Netherlands are in the EU, which means Regulation Hell, something we Dutch seems to be really good at ourselves.
Heck, the new government that was installed last week actually has a minister of fewer regulations. Yeah, that'll work.
I'm not American, but I believe this mantra means that at long as there's adequate supervision, extra government powers aren't so bad, right?
Supervision, "checks and balances" means that you, or your representatives should be able to say when a government organization is trying to grab powers that it doesn't need to do its job, that are totally gratuitious - and also possibly open to abuse.
Well, this is the fucking Pentagon (your department of war on other countries) that wants to have a complete database of every tiny little thing about American citizens. Which is so totally unrelated to their job, and so open to abuse, that it's precisely those checks and balances that should stop this, if they are still effective, right?
Linux nerds need to pull their heads out of their asses and simply realize that Linux needs to be retardedly easy to use!
Only if your goal is to have everybody and their mothers use it.
What I want, on the other hand, is something totally different - I want power. And I don't care about world domination. I love Linux the way it's now. I think I'm not the only Linux nerd who thinks that way. Retardedly easy to use is for retards. They can use Windows or whatever, I don't care.
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Those are third party projects.
GCC is the C compiler of the GNU project, glibc its C library. Those are the first things that should work together...
Well now, I would have to say that this has to do with having an addictive personality.
Obviously. However, I think there are a lot of people who have that sort of personality, or perhaps a weaker form, who haven't met anything yet that can be a time sink as bad as these games. MUDs weren't exactly mainstream. They also have some features that make them more addictive than other things, and MMORPGs are exactly the same.
Currently someone may be a TV addict and not have many problems keeping a real life around. As soon as you play in a game where you do quick-reward low-ability threshold stuff all the time, and friends/guildmates etc expect you to be there to team with them, every day you do this you get slightly stronger as long as you put in the hours, and you're actually competing with other mindless addicted drones, it's going to be a lot harder. Those aspects make these games a lot more addictive than other games/whatever.
When I'm addicted to other things, I may feel guilty now and then and start doing something else. When I wasn't mudding, I felt guilty because my guild members depended on me to be around when the game reboot happened!
And these games are going to be marketed to large groups of people who haven't had experience with this sort of thing yet.
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I was going on this link, that I should have read more carefully before posting that date. Coding started late '89, it was used internally during '90, the first release was in early '91.
But of course, there's nothing that comes close to CPAN anywhere else. It's also beautiful to see a CPAN install, automatically grabbing lots of modules and installing everything correctly :-). There are only a few Linux distributions that can do the same sort of thing, I think.
The only *weakness* that comes to mind is that it's a younger language.
This is the second time someone mentions this. Perl is from the end of 1987, Python from the end of 1989. Not enough difference to be a concern now, I'd say.
I think Perl mostly seems older as it rode the wave of CGI scripting, and became popular as the CGI language. So a lot of people heard of it before they heard of Python, and it seems that Perl is a lot older. But really they're from the same period.
What do Slashdotters use python for?
All the code I wrote for my thesis (text analysis, decision trees, genetic algorithms). On the job, scripting - backup scripts, hacking up the output from a database designer program into input xml files for Torque (Java data objects library). At home, a lot of little scripts, most notably the thing that drives mpg123 for me.
What are its strengths and its weaknesses?
Strengths: It's fun to code. It can be extremely powerful in a few lines and still stay readable. The standard library is very powerful. Well written Python is immediately readable for someone who hasn't seen the language before. Really beautiful and flexible system of OO, object attributes, modules, functions that are first class objects, etc. Many of the constructs just make total sense when you're a computer scientist.
Weaknesses: somewhat slow. In some situations you want to have strict compile time checks (for applications I personally use Java, not Python).
Why is it worth learning another programming language?
What a question! It's always worth learning another programming language, it makes you a better programmer.
You guys remind of the people who say that the whole uproar over Y2K wasn't necessary. Nothing happened, so that proves the whole prevention effort was unnecessary, right? All overblown hype!
But a lot of stuff was actually fixed. There would have been problems if it hadn't been attacked like that. Of course the media was too sensationalistic about it, but Y2K was a problem, or at least it could have been.
SARS turned out not to be that big of a problem. There was a huge containment effort and much media hype. People keep pointing out that the flu kills many more people.
So what do they suggest should have been done? Just give them anti biotics and see what happens? The reason SARS was not such a huge problem at the end is precisely because of the huge containment effort. What if SARS had been allowed to spread so that it had affected just 1% of the people who get flu every year? Major disaster, and by that time it would have been impossible to contain.
I think WHO did exactly the right thing, especially since so little was known about the virus. Most diseases take centuries to wipe out, we actually managed to contain SARS before it became widespread! Sounds to me that's exactly what we have organizations like the WHO for, and it actually worked.
Of course the media hype meant that the economy was hurt more than it had to be. It wasn't perfect. But I think we can be pretty happy, overall.
Who needs to download games, there are lots of good free online games. I play Hattrick, a soccer manager game.
It's much easier to play these during work too, and it's automatically networked multiplayer :-)
I'm 29, but otherwise I'm that guy.
I have a day job, that's how. Sheesh. This eternal student thing is hard work, you know.
Why is everybody here always whining about giving poor countries food first, and then IT and stuff?
I believe in giving them a fishing rod instead of a few fish.
We can give them food. We can even give them means to grow food by. But they'll never be able to afford them for themselves. They stay dependent on foreign help.
The other thing we can do is help them make their own money. For that, the most important thing they need is education, the second is something to sell in this global economy.
The Internet is the best and cheapest way to get to information necessary for an education. Books are too expensive. Also, if they're going to have something to sell apart from bananas, they will need IT infrastructure for it in this day and age.
Getting good connectivity there is very important. There already is a fast cable running along the West African coast (SAT-3) but it's mostly unused since the land network isn't there. If Wi-Fi can help that (should be easier to setup than cable everywhere), great!
this is not a democracy, this is mob rule.
Democracy = old greek `o demos cracia = the people rule = mob rule.
They mean literally the same thing.
Firstly, of course the moon rotates as well. It just rotates at the same angular velocity at which it orbits Earth, so we always see the same face. This is caused by a process called tidal lock.
Mercury is in tidal lock with the sun. But because its trajectory is elliptical, it's not a 1:1 lock, but a 3:2 lock: there are 3 Mercury days in 2 Mercury years.
A Mercury day is 58.6 Earth days, a Mercury year is 88 Earth days, according to this fact sheet. 58.6 days should be enough for most missions.
BrightMail's method can only find spam. Their honeypots have absolutely no legitimate use, so all the mail they get must be spam: untargetted, mass mailing, to an unchecked, harvested list of addresses.
Ok, so they have 100% certain spam mail examples. How do they then use them to block new mail? Do they block the From:? That can be forged, and is often a real innocent person. Do they block the IP? That may well be a normal mail server. Etc.
This is just a naive thought, but I was wondering how they solved this.
Just to add some info, in the Netherlands (and surely also in Denmark), you'd need legal identification for that - basically either a passport or EU id card. These are hard to fake (we get new passports with improved technology about every six years or so) and have a photograph on them.
It seems that in the US there's no actual identification at all? And it's legally binding? Wow.
I mentioned that I felt that Senator Hatch bears ultimate responsiblity for what is on his website and that I felt like he should own up to it.
Personally I don't believe he himself is responsible. But what's ironic is that he himself is arguing that his computer ought to be destroyed over this...
With the demise of so called 'blue collar' jobs and now the demise of 'white collar' jobs, what, if anything will actually be done in developed western countries like the United States and Europe?
Our economies will go down, our money will go down, until at last we're competitive again, albeit at a somewhat lower standard of living. In exchange for which, theirs will be somewhat raised.
The good thing is, that in theory, the average level of the world should go up, since this sort of thing is more efficient. But globalization is the great equalizer - and we're way on top at the moment.
My parents are from Deventer, a 80,000 people town in the Netherlands. There used to be a guy there nicknamed "Gekke Gijs" (Mad Gijs).
They sent a postcard addressed "Gekke Gijs, Deventer" from Austria, and it arrived without trouble :-).
You don't need to require someone to have full production capacity. All that is required is to only allow patents on a specific method of making a TurboWidget. If you could make it, then you can write that specific method down, and if you couldn't, then you can't. And that's what's supposed to be the case now - but seems to have been forgotten.
I can't see the RIAA being too happy about coexisting with what is effectively the competition, though.
Virtually 100% of these "indie" labels are RIAA members.
Amsterdam (not "New Amsterdam", which got renamed to New York), is the capital of the Netherlands. Like any Dutch city it has a relaxed attitude towards soft drugs and prostitution (soft drugs are "tolerated", which means practically legal, prostitution is fully legal).
However, the Netherlands are in the EU, which means Regulation Hell, something we Dutch seems to be really good at ourselves.
Heck, the new government that was installed last week actually has a minister of fewer regulations. Yeah, that'll work.
With so many cellular providers, and text messaging being chained to only customers of the same provider, I've found it to be essentially useless.
That's a difference with Europe then. I can SMS to any provider for the same cost.
Oddly enough, I think it uses Emacs.
*Emacs*? Government turns into dictatorship, freedom disappears, 1984 comes true, and it turns out Stallman is behind it all?
Totally unrealistic. More deus ex machina than all the eagles in Tolkien combined. Hollywood will never go for it. So it must be true...
Checks and balances is the key.
I'm not American, but I believe this mantra means that at long as there's adequate supervision, extra government powers aren't so bad, right?
Supervision, "checks and balances" means that you, or your representatives should be able to say when a government organization is trying to grab powers that it doesn't need to do its job, that are totally gratuitious - and also possibly open to abuse.
Well, this is the fucking Pentagon (your department of war on other countries) that wants to have a complete database of every tiny little thing about American citizens. Which is so totally unrelated to their job, and so open to abuse, that it's precisely those checks and balances that should stop this, if they are still effective, right?
Simple: if program A doesn't have this feature, I'll take program B that does. What was that concept called again?
Linux nerds need to pull their heads out of their asses and simply realize that Linux needs to be retardedly easy to use!
Only if your goal is to have everybody and their mothers use it.
What I want, on the other hand, is something totally different - I want power. And I don't care about world domination. I love Linux the way it's now. I think I'm not the only Linux nerd who thinks that way. Retardedly easy to use is for retards. They can use Windows or whatever, I don't care.
Those are third party projects.
GCC is the C compiler of the GNU project, glibc its C library. Those are the first things that should work together...
I want Sean Connery as the Wizard of Yendor!
A real Scottish, Real Man @. A @ with character. I mean, that's exactly what the game needs, right?
Well now, I would have to say that this has to do with having an addictive personality.
Obviously. However, I think there are a lot of people who have that sort of personality, or perhaps a weaker form, who haven't met anything yet that can be a time sink as bad as these games. MUDs weren't exactly mainstream. They also have some features that make them more addictive than other things, and MMORPGs are exactly the same.
Currently someone may be a TV addict and not have many problems keeping a real life around. As soon as you play in a game where you do quick-reward low-ability threshold stuff all the time, and friends/guildmates etc expect you to be there to team with them, every day you do this you get slightly stronger as long as you put in the hours, and you're actually competing with other mindless addicted drones, it's going to be a lot harder. Those aspects make these games a lot more addictive than other games/whatever.
When I'm addicted to other things, I may feel guilty now and then and start doing something else. When I wasn't mudding, I felt guilty because my guild members depended on me to be around when the game reboot happened!
And these games are going to be marketed to large groups of people who haven't had experience with this sort of thing yet.