So I worked many years ago for a USENet provider. We of course carried all groups. Everyone knew what was in USENet ad suffice to say discussion about what to do about things like the kiddie porn came up. The decision was made to shut down those groups. I mean it make's sense. Cut off access to those groups and stem the flow somewhat. Within 2 days of shutting the groups down we received a call from the FBI threatening to shut us down. They said by censoring anything we become responsible for ALL content on our systems.
It seems to me that Facebook should be held to the same rules. If they censor one thing they must censor it all
Now on a positive note the USENet providers legal department found out that what really happened was that we shut down and FBI sting. Once we knew that we were able to facilitate their investigation but still. The common carrier laws should apply to everyone or no one. If I have a vote, it's everyone.
> The blame lies with media, public figures, politicians, but mostly ourselves
Yes, and our records have secret messages to Satan when you play them backwards too.
Look, I learned to swear way most kids did here, Public school. I don' think its more swearing. I think it is that kids are no longer afraid to do it in front of people that aren't there age.
Swearing can be blamed on two things I think, 1: Peers 2: Parents. If I feel something is inappropriate for my children I cut them off at my end.
On the other hand., This kind of drama over a word is really pointless anyway.
The article says Windows 32 bit can handle 4 gigs of ram. The machines can take that much but only about 3.5 gigs are addressable. That being said I can see that the number are likely true on usage. 3 or 5 of the machines in my house are 64 bit.
So for years I thought I hated the mac. There's really nothing wrong with the mac technically. PC's have the 3d game market of course but as a work machine its usable. I've had an Iphone for years now but always jail broken. So I figured out its not the Mac I hate. It Apple and Jobs. The company was a much better company when Woz was still there. They have always been naziesk on there no clone prices and go out of there way to force you to buy there hardware when they can. Again that's all apple. Now I do have an issue with Apple users who can not answer the simple question of "Why do you feel the mac is superior?". If they can't answer it I treat them like marketing people. But the company would do much better I think on a whole if they go rid of Jobs. His moronic ideas of company doctrine will eventually kill the company. Anyone for a vote of no confidence?
Is it me or are these people just messed up in the head. Music, the number is millions not trillions. Trillions is reserved for the sex industry. Honestly, None of these record company make trillions. How is that anyone can owe them 5. Time to get off there high horse and give up. Its almost as bad as double click with "Ad blockers are the end of free Internet". Ill talk to them when they pay my ISP bill's.
Come on. Does anyone here use newspaper for anything other then starting fires in the fireplace or campfires? I have a friend and the San Fransisco Chronicle. She says they are looking at moving to e-readers and digital distribution now. To me that says the dying industry is proving to be more willing to adapt then say the MPAA or the RIAA.
The newspaper will die. A paper form of the news is needed too... Kill less trees and make those paper company towns not smell like a horses arse, as well as cut down on pollution. Stop bailing them out. Sink or swim should be the rule. Honestly why would I pay for the newspaper when I can pop onto any news site I want and get the same articles for free(not that I do).
Half the time I read Slashdot from a RSS reader on my iphone. What more news could I want?
So I was happy with my Roomba and Scoomba. Now they have home defense products too. Wow. Do I have to buy the whole robot or can I just get the weapon mounts for my vacuum?
So these religious leaders are worse then my children. OK They blocked facebook, wikipedia, flikr, and youtube. Tell the ok, we you feel like your a big boy and can come back and play nicely with others you can have these websites back.
If they want to set themselves back(I'm only referring to Wikipedia here) then let them. If you can't play nicely with others go sit in the corner and sulk. Your in timeout.
So I guess I'm glad I didn't download this one. Really this is getting moronic. Want to know how the movie companies can stop losing money. First, all the money they are spending on investigators and lawyers. Stop doing it. Second. Pay actors what they deserve not millions. Ok, the best actors maybe 250K just like the best in other professions. But come on. Take terminator 3. They payed ol arnie 32 million dollars for that film. The man is a brutish lug who couldn't act his way out of a shoebox. Still he did draw the crowds, to me 250k for him at that point seems reasonable. Finally. The 48 million they have spent this year alone already on lobbying. Stop that. Suddenly those companies would find they are back in the green.
People are going to pirate, and they will never catch the smart ones, just those without the knowledge to protect themselves. Piracy has been around for ages, at least since they invented reel to reel tape decks. Its going to happen, You can't stop it. Best to be thankful for those customers who choose to pay for and in the knowledge that average computer user doesn't know where or is afraid of the software used to pirate.
Honestly I'm vision impaired. Going to the theater is pointless for me. I'd rather get the movie from Netflix and watch it at home. They lost the theater money from. But before I was vision impaired I stopped going to the movies when they got to be over 8 bucks a ticket. I can see 5, but for 7 I can get a 1 case membership over at Netflix and see them as fast(or rather as slow) as the postal system can handle things.
You can't stop piracy. All that happens when you make a big deal out of it is that people investigate. Not in an attempt to stop it, but more to learn how its done and most of the time, they become pirates to.
So Im a parent. I have 3 kids. I don't let my 12yo son watch Southpark or Family guy. I don't need a PTC orginization to make those decisions. Maybe if they stopped going to the stupid meetings and payed attention to what their kids were watching they wouldn't have so many issues.
OK. I Buy software, Not everything of course, but if I use a program consistently I'll pay for it. Being an IT person I don't know how many copies of Windows, Office and other apps people have pirated. Its the norm. I actually think the fact that I pay for software I use is rare for the most part. Everyone seems to pirate something. Sorry but as Spock said, "The needs of the many, outway the needs of the few or the one." Perhaps they need to reevaluate the rara antipiracy crap. Maybe if they payed actors reasonable salaries instead of millions and they stopped spending 48 million on lobbying (opensecrets.org), plus stopped paying the 1000's of lawyers they pay now to crack down on it. They'd find they were doing quite well despite piracy. I play games, and If I like a game I will buy it. But if it amuses me for 3 or 4 I have 0 interest in paying for it.
Well they are still subject to obeying the order. But that's a non-issue. They have been sending all US users to Google when they search for weeks. Course the real pirates have just all moved to web proxy's or anonymous VPN providers like the Chinese have been doing for years.
In reality yeah, good yet another potentional vaccine is going to enter clinical trials. I reality very few drugs make it past phase one trials, even fewer past stage two, and less after phase 3. Going into stage one while a significant step in the right direction means very little as so many factors can weed it out as a viable drug along the way. Thats why the drug companys charge so much. For every 10000 they try they find one that works. When it gets to phase 3 then its something to be truely watched.
How long you been in IT? You said a Sales guy said it? Vp or not its still a sales guy and there all full of sh*t. Never trust anyone in a sales department.
The words "You'll never need more space then you'll get with this 5 megabyte harddisk." come to mind. The words a salesman said to myself and my father when we bought one eons ago.
Do we need more speed? Not presently. But as the speed comes more applications that use it will come. Might as well ask did we really need to leave the primodial ooze.
Umm, I hate to say it but IBM will probably get slammed by lawyers in reverse for DOS attacks. DOSing spammers isn't new and DOSing is still considering hacking.
Ok, the top 10 spammers are basicly known entities. Whats hunting them down gonna do. They skip town, dont show up in court, etc. Unless we really mean hunting them down and killing them which I am in full support of, however unless I've missed something its still a tad on the illegal side in the United States. Paying a bounty to find them is all well and good but the courts dont do much about them even when you get them into court. These people are scum who hide thier identity constantly. They are good at it. Ok perhaps we can be better at finding them but they still skip out on court hearings all the time.
Admitedly I pay more then most, I have a routed network over my dsl link and I expect to pay more for that. However in my neighboorhood most people are using dialup because of the costs of other services. Were not a poor neighboorhood, average house cost about 500K but people dont seem to want to shoulder the cost of broadband on top of an inflated mortage. Cable modems were available in the area and were only about 30 a month. Course they are asyncronous meaning out via phone and in via cable and you could order them without the cable service. They so oversold thier pipe however that they no longer issue them. One or two houses have directway dishes on them but for the most part my nieghboors are happy with thier modems and cant justify the costs of DSL to the area.
I pay for my broadband because I use it alot and I know what its like to go back to modems. Most of these folks havent been exposed or just dont need it. The problem is people dont really know if they need broadband or not and throwing out a few hundred for a dsl router and getting stuck with a year service contract with an inflated rate is not a great motivator for people to try it to find out.
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So I worked many years ago for a USENet provider. We of course carried all groups. Everyone knew what was in USENet ad suffice to say discussion about what to do about things like the kiddie porn came up. The decision was made to shut down those groups. I mean it make's sense. Cut off access to those groups and stem the flow somewhat. Within 2 days of shutting the groups down we received a call from the FBI threatening to shut us down. They said by censoring anything we become responsible for ALL content on our systems.
It seems to me that Facebook should be held to the same rules. If they censor one thing they must censor it all
Now on a positive note the USENet providers legal department found out that what really happened was that we shut down and FBI sting. Once we knew that we were able to facilitate their investigation but still. The common carrier laws should apply to everyone or no one. If I have a vote, it's everyone.
How much for colo? I could so use a safe space for my porn collection!
> The blame lies with media, public figures, politicians, but mostly ourselves
Yes, and our records have secret messages to Satan when you play them backwards too.
Look, I learned to swear way most kids did here, Public school. I don' think its more swearing. I think it is that kids are no longer afraid to do it in front of people that aren't there age.
Swearing can be blamed on two things I think, 1: Peers 2: Parents. If I feel something is inappropriate for my children I cut them off at my end.
On the other hand., This kind of drama over a word is really pointless anyway.
Well normally i object to vandalism but if these arrive in the US I'm putting on dark sunglasses and going on a break the sensor spree.
I'm waiting for the dual tape deck version with the high speed dubbing button so I can make mix tapes for my girlfriend.
The article says Windows 32 bit can handle 4 gigs of ram. The machines can take that much but only about 3.5 gigs are addressable. That being said I can see that the number are likely true on usage. 3 or 5 of the machines in my house are 64 bit.
You mean I didn't really win the UK lottery? Oh no, I was so counting on that.
So for years I thought I hated the mac. There's really nothing wrong with the mac technically. PC's have the 3d game market of course but as a work machine its usable. I've had an Iphone for years now but always jail broken. So I figured out its not the Mac I hate. It Apple and Jobs. The company was a much better company when Woz was still there. They have always been naziesk on there no clone prices and go out of there way to force you to buy there hardware when they can. Again that's all apple. Now I do have an issue with Apple users who can not answer the simple question of "Why do you feel the mac is superior?". If they can't answer it I treat them like marketing people. But the company would do much better I think on a whole if they go rid of Jobs. His moronic ideas of company doctrine will eventually kill the company. Anyone for a vote of no confidence?
Is it me or are these people just messed up in the head. Music, the number is millions not trillions. Trillions is reserved for the sex industry. Honestly, None of these record company make trillions. How is that anyone can owe them 5. Time to get off there high horse and give up. Its almost as bad as double click with "Ad blockers are the end of free Internet". Ill talk to them when they pay my ISP bill's.
Come on. Does anyone here use newspaper for anything other then starting fires in the fireplace or campfires? I have a friend and the San Fransisco Chronicle. She says they are looking at moving to e-readers and digital distribution now. To me that says the dying industry is proving to be more willing to adapt then say the MPAA or the RIAA.
The newspaper will die. A paper form of the news is needed too... Kill less trees and make those paper company towns not smell like a horses arse, as well as cut down on pollution. Stop bailing them out. Sink or swim should be the rule. Honestly why would I pay for the newspaper when I can pop onto any news site I want and get the same articles for free(not that I do).
Half the time I read Slashdot from a RSS reader on my iphone. What more news could I want?
So I was happy with my Roomba and Scoomba. Now they have home defense products too. Wow. Do I have to buy the whole robot or can I just get the weapon mounts for my vacuum?
So these religious leaders are worse then my children. OK They blocked facebook, wikipedia, flikr, and youtube. Tell the ok, we you feel like your a big boy and can come back and play nicely with others you can have these websites back.
If they want to set themselves back(I'm only referring to Wikipedia here) then let them. If you can't play nicely with others go sit in the corner and sulk. Your in timeout.
So I guess I'm glad I didn't download this one. Really this is getting moronic. Want to know how the movie companies can stop losing money. First, all the money they are spending on investigators and lawyers. Stop doing it. Second. Pay actors what they deserve not millions. Ok, the best actors maybe 250K just like the best in other professions. But come on. Take terminator 3. They payed ol arnie 32 million dollars for that film. The man is a brutish lug who couldn't act his way out of a shoebox. Still he did draw the crowds, to me 250k for him at that point seems reasonable. Finally. The 48 million they have spent this year alone already on lobbying. Stop that. Suddenly those companies would find they are back in the green.
People are going to pirate, and they will never catch the smart ones, just those without the knowledge to protect themselves. Piracy has been around for ages, at least since they invented reel to reel tape decks. Its going to happen, You can't stop it. Best to be thankful for those customers who choose to pay for and in the knowledge that average computer user doesn't know where or is afraid of the software used to pirate.
Honestly I'm vision impaired. Going to the theater is pointless for me. I'd rather get the movie from Netflix and watch it at home. They lost the theater money from. But before I was vision impaired I stopped going to the movies when they got to be over 8 bucks a ticket. I can see 5, but for 7 I can get a 1 case membership over at Netflix and see them as fast(or rather as slow) as the postal system can handle things.
You can't stop piracy. All that happens when you make a big deal out of it is that people investigate. Not in an attempt to stop it, but more to learn how its done and most of the time, they become pirates to.
So Im a parent. I have 3 kids. I don't let my 12yo son watch Southpark or Family guy. I don't need a PTC orginization to make those decisions. Maybe if they stopped going to the stupid meetings and payed attention to what their kids were watching they wouldn't have so many issues.
OK. I Buy software, Not everything of course, but if I use a program consistently I'll pay for it. Being an IT person I don't know how many copies of Windows, Office and other apps people have pirated. Its the norm. I actually think the fact that I pay for software I use is rare for the most part. Everyone seems to pirate something. Sorry but as Spock said, "The needs of the many, outway the needs of the few or the one." Perhaps they need to reevaluate the rara antipiracy crap. Maybe if they payed actors reasonable salaries instead of millions and they stopped spending 48 million on lobbying (opensecrets.org), plus stopped paying the 1000's of lawyers they pay now to crack down on it. They'd find they were doing quite well despite piracy. I play games, and If I like a game I will buy it. But if it amuses me for 3 or 4 I have 0 interest in paying for it.
Well they are still subject to obeying the order. But that's a non-issue. They have been sending all US users to Google when they search for weeks. Course the real pirates have just all moved to web proxy's or anonymous VPN providers like the Chinese have been doing for years.
In reality yeah, good yet another potentional vaccine is going to enter clinical trials. I reality very few drugs make it past phase one trials, even fewer past stage two, and less after phase 3. Going into stage one while a significant step in the right direction means very little as so many factors can weed it out as a viable drug along the way. Thats why the drug companys charge so much. For every 10000 they try they find one that works. When it gets to phase 3 then its something to be truely watched.
How long you been in IT? You said a Sales guy said it? Vp or not its still a sales guy and there all full of sh*t. Never trust anyone in a sales department.
Can I hack one into my Tivo? I hate it when i miss The Simpsons.
What a useless invention. When im surfing my porn I only have one hand free.
The words "You'll never need more space then you'll get with this 5 megabyte harddisk." come to mind. The words a salesman said to myself and my father when we bought one eons ago.
Do we need more speed? Not presently. But as the speed comes more applications that use it will come. Might as well ask did we really need to leave the primodial ooze.
Look, I run diesal. I could convert to biodiesal without any conversion in my engine. Why don't I? Cause theres no where you can buy the stuff.
Biofuels are great and all but alternative fuels have all flopped with the exception of the city busses running off french fry oil.
You have to change the market and theres enough money in oil as well as polotics that its not gonna happen any time soon.
Umm, I hate to say it but IBM will probably get slammed by lawyers in reverse for DOS attacks. DOSing spammers isn't new and DOSing is still considering hacking.
*starts loading his G3*
Ok, the top 10 spammers are basicly known entities. Whats hunting them down gonna do. They skip town, dont show up in court, etc. Unless we really mean hunting them down and killing them which I am in full support of, however unless I've missed something its still a tad on the illegal side in the United States. Paying a bounty to find them is all well and good but the courts dont do much about them even when you get them into court. These people are scum who hide thier identity constantly. They are good at it. Ok perhaps we can be better at finding them but they still skip out on court hearings all the time.
I dont think it will help any.
Admitedly I pay more then most, I have a routed network over my dsl link and I expect to pay more for that. However in my neighboorhood most people are using dialup because of the costs of other services. Were not a poor neighboorhood, average house cost about 500K but people dont seem to want to shoulder the cost of broadband on top of an inflated mortage. Cable modems were available in the area and were only about 30 a month. Course they are asyncronous meaning out via phone and in via cable and you could order them without the cable service. They so oversold thier pipe however that they no longer issue them. One or two houses have directway dishes on them but for the most part my nieghboors are happy with thier modems and cant justify the costs of DSL to the area.
I pay for my broadband because I use it alot and I know what its like to go back to modems. Most of these folks havent been exposed or just dont need it. The problem is people dont really know if they need broadband or not and throwing out a few hundred for a dsl router and getting stuck with a year service contract with an inflated rate is not a great motivator for people to try it to find out.