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Creative Uses For Extra Drive Bays?

sheetsda writes "For many years now PC cases have included 3 or 4 or even more external 5.25 inch drive bays. These days with the proliferation of USB thumb drives and gigabit Ethernet, even my DVD drive has been gathering dust since OS-install-time. Before that when combination CD-RW and DVD drives were nonexistent or expensive that still leaves and extra drive bay or two. What exceptionally inventive, useful, or clever uses have the community found for this extra space? Bonus geek cred for solutions making use of the power rails inside the case."

366 comments

  1. First toast by Ethanol-fueled · · Score: 5, Funny
    1. Re:First toast by n1hilist · · Score: 4, Funny

      Pfft, nVidia have been doing that for ages! And now with 3 way SLI I can do 3 slices at once!

    2. Re:First toast by adonoman · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Personally, I prefer the cup holder / cigarette lighter.

    3. Re:First toast by Forge · · Score: 5, Interesting

      http://www.frequencycast.co.uk/plusdeck.html Sorry I couldn't do the link properly. busted keyboard :(

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    4. Re:First toast by mcmonkey · · Score: 4, Interesting

      My first thought was an Easy Bake oven

      http://www.thinkgeek.com/stuff/41/ezbake.shtml

    5. Re:First toast by herdingcats · · Score: 1

      hell, has everyone forgotten that any spare cd/dvd player _is_ a handy-dandy retractable cup holder?

    6. Re:First toast by Runaway1956 · · Score: 1

      Not everyone has a terrarium. I captured these images from an article somewhere, sometime. Credits aren't mine, at all. ;^)

      http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc226/Runaway1956/file001.jpg
      http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc226/Runaway1956/file002.jpg
      http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc226/Runaway1956/file000.jpg
      http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc226/Runaway1956/Technica.jpg

      Obviously, you'll want to ensure that the terrarium is tightly closed between feedings!

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    7. Re:First toast by Hognoxious · · Score: 4, Funny

      Enough is enough! I have had it with these motherfucking snakes in this motherfucking PC!

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    8. Re:First toast by commodore64_love · · Score: 1

      I'd
      sooner just buy a smaller PC without the bays. Heck, why doesn't anyone make a single piece keyboard like the old Atari 800, or C=64, or Amiga 500?

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    9. Re:First toast by Splab · · Score: 4, Funny

      They do, they even come with a monitor you can open and close over the keyboard - they call it a "laptop".

    10. Re:First toast by anethema · · Score: 1

      Like this?

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ASUS_Eee_Keyboard

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    11. Re:First toast by FingerSoup · · Score: 1

      Because what they make these days is even smaller. If you're going to flip the bird to any sense of upgradability, then you might as well make a laptop/netbook, or a box that's small enough to hide in a bookshelf or something.... having a big fat keyboard would be kind of annoying these days.....

    12. Re:First toast by ScrewMaster · · Score: 3, Funny

      Personally, I prefer the cup holder / cigarette lighter.

      Install an electrically-fired ZIP gun in the thing ... anyone tries to break into your files, you set it off and have a "drive bay shooting".

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    13. Re:First toast by commodore64_love · · Score: 1

      >>>having a big fat keyboard would be kind of annoying these days.....

      Good point. Nowadays laptops are outselling desktop PCs since people want mobility. The old single-piece keyboards/computers wouldn't sell well in today's environment, because you needed to chain yourself to a TV to use them.

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    14. Re:First toast by commodore64_love · · Score: 1

      Not really the same thing, since I can connect my Atari or Commodore to a 40 inch TV. I'm not aware of any laptops with that size screens, unless your TV has a VGA in or DVI in. (None of mine do.)

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    15. Re:First toast by oji-sama · · Score: 1

      Mine has both. Although attaching a laptop to the VGA-port (even with cable in between!) caused the laptop to hard reset both times I've tried it. (And nothing happened with another laptop.) DVI works without problems, so I'm happy.

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    16. Re:First toast by tacarat · · Score: 1

      Thanks. I have a Christmas gift for my brother now.

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    17. Re:First toast by jaymz666 · · Score: 1

      Many laptops have HDMI out now

    18. Re:First toast by KlaymenDK · · Score: 1

      I'd sooner just buy a smaller PC without the bays. Heck, why doesn't anyone make a single piece keyboard like the old Atari 800, or C=64, or Amiga 500?

      Um, wasn't there a story about this just the other day?

      Oh yeah, here it is:
      Commodore 64 Primed For a Comeback In June on 2010-03-24 14:09
      Posted by timothy on 2010-03-24 14:09
      from the new-use-old-number dept.
      angry tapir writes "The Commodore 64 is getting a makeover, with a new design and some of the latest computing technologies, as the brand gets primed for a comeback. The revamped computer will be available through the Commodore USA online store, which is set to open June 1. The computer will be an all-in-one keyboard, with Intel's 64-bit quad-core microprocessors and 3D graphics capabilities."

      PS: here's an image of the new thing:
      http://www.arnnet.com.au/slideshow/340148/commodore_64_awakes_from_slumber_makeover/?image=2

    19. Re:First toast by Hes+Nikke · · Score: 1

      ...why doesn't anyone make a single piece keyboard like the old Atari 800, or C=64, or Amiga 500?

      They're out there.

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    20. Re:First toast by umask077 · · Score: 1

      I'm waiting for the dual tape deck version with the high speed dubbing button so I can make mix tapes for my girlfriend.

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    21. Re:First toast by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A lot of laptops have multiple external display options. My own laptop has 3 different types of connections (VGA, HDMI and DisplayPort).

      All modern televisions have HDMI and VGA connections. I haven't even seen a single HDTV without them. My own television (a Sharp Aquos 65") has a 15-pin d-sub (VGA) port, 4 HDMI ports, 2 component, an S-video port and 2 composite.

    22. Re:First toast by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Mount radios in empty bays.

              http://wa8lmf.net/EPIAserver/index.htm

    23. Re:First toast by baegucb · · Score: 1
    24. Re:First toast by Nerftoe · · Score: 1

      This reminds me of the time where I had lizards in my case. I started smelling something funny and pinpointed the smell at my computer case. I opened her up and found 6 dead lizards. I have no idea how they got in there. They were not pet lizards but they kind you see sunning themselves on the sides of brick homes. I guess they got in the house and found a warm spot and couldn't get back out. I wish I had pics.

    25. Re:First toast by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I have one of these. It works great!

    26. Re:First toast by AugstWest · · Score: 1

      "drive bay shooting"

      I hate to admit it, but I LOLed.

    27. Re:First toast by Alcoholist · · Score: 1

      It comes with a mix for a caffeinated meatloaf LOL.

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    28. Re:First toast by aquila.solo · · Score: 1
    29. Re:First toast by jon3k · · Score: 1

      HDMI to DVI or even the new laptops with WiDi

    30. Re:First toast by hairyfeet · · Score: 1

      It sounds like what you want is this. enjoy!

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    31. Re:First toast by bart416 · · Score: 0

      Cupholder in works great. I sort of turned an old cd drive into a cup holder when I faced a similar problem. Works great but gets quite messy if you spill anything (the open/close tray button never worked since that and I can't find a small enough electric motor to replace it and my other CD drive now has a coffee colour inside).

    32. Re:First toast by os2fan · · Score: 1

      I have a pair of drawers http://www.crazypc.com/products/8180B.html , I mean, ye can really put money into the computer now.

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    33. Re:First toast by Patch86 · · Score: 1

      All laptops have some form of monitor output. Most modern TVs have some sort of corresponding input (my relatively cheap no-brand telly does). And if it doesn't (like, apparently, yours), you can buy converters for not very much money.

      If you were to buy a modern non-laptop "all in the keyboard" PC, you'd have exactly the same problem.

    34. Re:First toast by realityimpaired · · Score: 1

      My laptop has HDMI and DisplayPort out as well as the standard VGA. My TV has HDMI and VGA in. Take your pick. :) (but not really needed... the laptop also sports a 1080p display (16"), and is fine for all of my uses.

    35. Re:First toast by confused+one · · Score: 1

      laptop has svideo out. TV has svideo in. It works for video but the resolution sucks, that is, unless you're looking for that legacy Atari / Commodore look and feel.

    36. Re:First toast by SQLGuru · · Score: 1

      This. Mine has all three. And my TV supports VGA and HDMI (it was made pre-DisplayPort). Plenty of ways to connect them.

    37. Re:First toast by sys_mast · · Score: 1

      Or you could look at something like a zero footprint pc, looks like they are now called all-in-ones: http://www.cybernetman.com/

      **BUT** from those I've talked to that have used them, they don't last very long and the power is low just like the one you list is a netbook = low power CPU.

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    38. Re:First toast by Lunzo · · Score: 1

      I didn't lol. My inner monologue groaned.

    39. Re:First toast by bgibby9 · · Score: 1

      Sorry but I have to second that...I lol'ed too! :P

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    40. Re:First toast by HTH+NE1 · · Score: 1

      And a few in the past had S-Video.

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    41. Re:First toast by Shadis · · Score: 1

      Unfortunately that was one of their April fools jokes...but I could see people in my office using that!

    42. Re:First toast by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Cue the requisite SeaLab 2021 reference...

    43. Re:First toast by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Its a pity thats one of their april fools items: I would have actually bought it.

  2. The SPARCplug by bhima · · Score: 5, Interesting

    You can read a little about it here: http://wiki.auroralinux.net/wiki/SPARCplug

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    1. Re:The SPARCplug by nitehawk214 · · Score: 1

      Is that a computer... in your computer?

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    2. Re:The SPARCplug by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Yo dawg, I heard you like computers, so I put a computer in your computer so you can compute while you compute.

    3. Re:The SPARCplug by ApolloX · · Score: 2, Funny

      Yep, and they should sell a USB stick that goes inside that, that functions as another computer!

    4. Re:The SPARCplug by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 1

      So you can compute while you compute....

      We did hear that you like that.

    5. Re:The SPARCplug by keith_nt4 · · Score: 1
      Not as creative as the SPARCplug, but similarly there's the Artigo mini-computer. It runs on a VIA x86 (or x64) processor and originally at least it was made to fit in a 5 1/4" bay. Integrating it with the main OS of the desktop would probably take more effort than the sparc since it looks like the sparc has that in mind.

      Here's the artigo page: http://www.via.com.tw/en/products/embedded/artigo/

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    6. Re:The SPARCplug by CastrTroy · · Score: 1

      I'm pretty sure I measured it out once, and figured you could fit a GameCube inside a PC Case. Although possibly not in the drive basy. Probably somewhere underneath the drive bays where there is a lot of empty space. I think this is a great idea. Have a computer in your computer, So you can flip a switch, access your read only internet browsing computer, and do your banking, without having to worry about whether keyloggers and other MalWare are recording your every move.

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    7. Re:The SPARCplug by hitmark · · Score: 2, Interesting

      didnt gigabyte demo a motherboard with built in atom cpu and kvm?

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    8. Re:The SPARCplug by NotBornYesterday · · Score: 1

      Interesting ... sort of the inverse of the SunPCI card.

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    9. Re:The SPARCplug by Cylix · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Better add another monitor so you can compute while you compute and not worry about a second monitor or x session.

      http://www.thermaltakeusa.com/Product.aspx?C=1257&ID=1481

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    10. Re:The SPARCplug by bhima · · Score: 1

      yes... I wonder what happened with it.

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    11. Re:The SPARCplug by stonewallred · · Score: 4, Interesting

      PC cases make great micro grow cabinets if you are into growing your own pot. Seen one where they put some really small mother board in the back section, and made the main case into a grow box. Complete with a carbon scrubber to kill the odor. Fully functional computer with a small plant growing inside. Dude got almost an ounce off it when dried and cured.

    12. Re:The SPARCplug by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 1

      It's a pity that that monitor requires the nonstandard 7inch bays found on only a few thermaltake models, rather than the usual 5.25s.

      I can't really blame them, getting the geometry to work would be rather tricky; but that makes it rather less attractive than the similarly sized; but USB cabled, versions that have been popping up like flies of late.

    13. Re:The SPARCplug by Dogtanian · · Score: 1

      Better add another monitor so you can compute while you compute and not worry about a second monitor or x session.

      That's cool, but isn't US $400 a little overpriced for what it is essentially a 7" LCD monitor?

      Personally, I think they should design the monitor to go into the other monitor so I could make a lame continuation of the joke that I heard you like monitors in your monitor so we put a monitor in your monitor so you can monitor your monitor while you...

      I'll get me coat.

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    14. Re:The SPARCplug by bhima · · Score: 1

      I will never, ever buy a game console. But I would buy something like a SPARCplug or PCIe card which gave my Mac the capability play PS3 or XBox 360 Games natively.

      I'd also love to see other CPUs available in this form factor to open access for development... but that's a different story.

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    15. Re:The SPARCplug by Killall+-9+Bash · · Score: 1

      you do realize that 7" is measured diagonally right?

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    16. Re:The SPARCplug by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      For someone who's in his 40s, you write awfully like someone who's 16.

    17. Re:The SPARCplug by unitron · · Score: 1

      According to the specs page at the site

      Dimension 7.5" (L) x 2.0" (H) x 7.0" (W)

      so diagonal measurement of the screen is irrelevant.

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    18. Re:The SPARCplug by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 1

      " Note: The 7” Motorized LCD module requires a chassis that supports 7” bay drive."

      From the product website. The screen is 7'' diagonal; but it would appear that they couldn't get the bezel, housing, support circuitry, gears, and whatnot into the 5.25 inch width...

    19. Re:The SPARCplug by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      that, and with VMware or VirtualBox preinstalled as a virtual computer. ...running dosbox?
      Or would that be overkill?

    20. Re:The SPARCplug by Cylix · · Score: 1

      Would you prefer one large LCD display?

      http://www.alphacool.com/popup_image.php/pID/668/imgID/0

      Sure all you can display is random profanity and trash talk. Well, you could display other things, but I'm not sure why you would want to.

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    21. Re:The SPARCplug by The+Hatchet · · Score: 1

      Do they have one of those for the modern world, that runs a bit faster than dual 180 mhz?? and has a more reasonable ram than 256 mb? And fits in standard drive bays? Cause it would be awesome if there was.

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    22. Re:The SPARCplug by bhima · · Score: 1

      Not that I know of... I buy it if there was. There is a lot of development that could be done for a variety of niche processors using that idea.

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    23. Re:The SPARCplug by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      He's a dopehead, what do you expect? Anyone who still smokes pot after the age of 20 really should seek help with their drug problem and developmental stagnation.

    24. Re:The SPARCplug by Cryolithic · · Score: 0, Redundant

      Yeah, and anyone who drinks past 20 should go to AA. Idiot.

    25. Re:The SPARCplug by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That sounds unhealthy.

      You know, the part about smoking pot from a computer.

    26. Re:The SPARCplug by multipartmixed · · Score: 1

      Except the Ross CPU is SPARC v8 - even older on the "landscape" than even the chip that shipped on the first PCI card (AMD K6 IIRC).

      I'm /really/ curious what OS it can run. Definitely not 10. 8 would be okay, though. Although. SLOW.

      If anybody reading this likes v8 CPUs - I have an E3000 you can have, if you pick it up.

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    27. Re:The SPARCplug by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      What's the matter? Hit a bit close to home, Mr. Dope Fiend?

      Alcohol is a different matter since there are pubs, clubs and other young adult meeting places specifically made for drinking while socialising, not for simply getting intoxicated. Smoking dope, on the other hand, is for nothing but getting intoxicated. I would say that anyone who drinks past the age of 30 or anyone who drinks to get shitfaced drunk should go to AA. Anyone who needs to get intoxicated like that is running away from something instead of being an adult and facing life.

      With that said, I've only two words for you. Grow up.

    28. Re:The SPARCplug by Pinback · · Score: 1

      I always wanted one of those. Other than maybe the Cisco AP-EC with mezzanine card, or the 486 on a card that goes in an Ultra 5, it was my favorite piece of obscure hardware.

    29. Re:The SPARCplug by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I guess you've never gone camping far out in the woods with three of your best friends and a fat sack of weed. Pity.

    30. Re:The SPARCplug by Megane · · Score: 1

      GameCube inside a PC Case

      I've seen it done. Fits quite well in the two top bays with (I presume... it's been a while since I've seen it) a hole cut in the top of the PC case to access the disk door. And the case even had a Nintendo theme to it, Mario I think.

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    31. Re:The SPARCplug by Megane · · Score: 1

      tl;dr: You can hide your weed in there!

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    32. Re:The SPARCplug by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      I would say that anyone who drinks past the age of 30 or anyone who drinks to get shitfaced drunk should go to AA.

      But since you're just some coward nobody ever loved, why would anyone care what you have to say?

      Why don't we log in so we can see what particular kind of hypocrite you are? Oh, wait.

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    33. Re:The SPARCplug by The+Hatchet · · Score: 1

      Not just that, I like the idea of computer within computer. You could have the internal computer monitor system processes and temperatures, keep disks running efficiently and keep everything protected and updated. It would be nice to have the added protection and monitoring, especially on a low quality high power system like mine, which is fairly unstable.

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    34. Re:The SPARCplug by bhima · · Score: 1

      That is precisely why I remembered it!

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    35. Re:The SPARCplug by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      not everybody has an account here dumbfuck

    36. Re:The SPARCplug by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Uhh yeah, and it could, like, make coffee, fend off intruders and stuff.

      Dude, WTF are you doing here? You don't have the slightest clue about how computers work which is probably why your crap system is unstable to begin with.

    37. Re:The SPARCplug by rakslice · · Score: 1

      Hypocritical how?

    38. Re:The SPARCplug by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      More power, less space ...add one per bay and set up a cluster...
      http://www.cappuccinopc.com/

    39. Re:The SPARCplug by NotBornYesterday · · Score: 1

      Sun had an earlier 486-based sbus card like this which would have been more contemporary to the HyperSPARC.

      As far as OS for the SPARCplug, I don't know, but since they are running 32 bit cpus that would have been in SPARC 20 systems, my guess is that SunOS 4.xx stuff would likely run, and probably older versions of Solaris, up maybe through 2.5.1 and 2.6.

      Some creative folks have gotten 9 to run on a SPARC 20, sort of.

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    40. Re:The SPARCplug by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      yeah, but w/ my video card, it'll be dried and cured before it's an inch high, and that's with water cooling!

    41. Re:The SPARCplug by HTH+NE1 · · Score: 1

      I remember something like this being suggested for adding Windows PC compatibility to a pre-Intel Macintosh.

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    42. Re:The SPARCplug by mr_mischief · · Score: 1

      Waaaaaaaaaaay pre-Intel. As in pre-G3. Yeah, they existed. You could get a 386 or 486 in your Powermac 7300 or so.

    43. Re:The SPARCplug by mr_mischief · · Score: 1

      I have a SunServer 600 you can pick up or I'll charge shipping plus 5%. Just remember, people without a raised dock generally pay $50-$75 for a lift-gate fee. ;)

    44. Re:The SPARCplug by Painted · · Score: 1

      Maybe not hypocritical, but still damned uninformed.

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  3. Umm, more drives? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It even uses the power.

    1. Re:Umm, more drives? by DarkKnightRadick · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Ok, how many 5.25" drives do you really need in a non CD/DVD replication computer? I have an HP Supermulti-drive (multiple DVD formats, all CD formats) w/Lightrscribe. What other need do I have for a second (third or even fourth) drive? Would you put an external drive out of it's case and put it in your PC? What's the point of buying the external then? I mean seriously.

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    2. Re:Umm, more drives? by hedwards · · Score: 2, Informative

      If I weren't using those drive bays for my radiator, I'd probably use them for hotswap SATA drives. Makes it a bit easier to dual boot and do backups.

    3. Re:Umm, more drives? by CastrTroy · · Score: 1

      I used to make quite good use of 2 drives when I got my first CD Burner. One drive for reading, one for writing, that way you didn't fill up your tiny 4GB Hard drive with CD images. It was also useful if you wanted background music for games that also required the CD to be present. It worked really well when CD drives used to be just passive audio fed directly into the sound card, because you could have whatever music you wanted playing in your games, without using extra processor cycles.

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    4. Re:Umm, more drives? by Anne+Thwacks · · Score: 1
      Havn't you peasants heard of RAIT?

      Or is your life expectancy so short dont you do backup any more?

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    5. Re:Umm, more drives? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Of course we're all familiar with the Rat Abdominal Irritant Test. http://www.acronymfinder.com/Rat-Abdominal-Irritant-Test-%28RAIT%29.html

      But what has that got to do with anything? Especially backups... unless you mean bowel backups?

    6. Re:Umm, more drives? by value_added · · Score: 1

      One drive for reading, one for writing, that way you didn't fill up your tiny 4GB Hard drive with CD images.

      I don't think many of us are using 4GB HDs, and given that HD space is so affordable, I don't see any reason not to store ISO images.

      In my case, I got rid of all my CD/DVD drives a long time ago because I consider them mostly useless and a waste of space. I also stopped buying blanks as I've never considered them reliable enough. Installs are the only reason I can see why someone would want a CD/DVD Rom. But those can be done via PXE, a USB stick, or in certain cases, an empty USB-attached HD that will get installed into a new box.

      As for the original question as to what to do with empty drive bays, I'd suggest if you have extra space that will never be used, you've bought the wrong case. If it's a server, implementing any kind of RAID (or using ZFS) should fill up the available bays. If it's a desktop, well, lots of alternatives are available. A Mac Mini, for example, would be more appropriate for most end users than a multi-bay tower.

    7. Re:Umm, more drives? by networkBoy · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I use one of these: 4x 2.5 sata.
      With 500 gig Scorpio blue drives hitting $55 it's actually price competitive with high quality DVD media, and certainly is space competitive.
      (when figuring out price competitive I accounted for the fact that nearly 700 meg of a dvd is often wasted in file backups).

      I wrote a perl script that computes and saves to the host and drive a hash table of all files on the archive so I can check for bit-rot.
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    8. Re:Umm, more drives? by DarkKnightRadick · · Score: 1

      Sure you can put more 3.5" drives in those bays, but you can only attach one side unless you have something put inside the larger bay so you can stabilize both sides of the drive.

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    9. Re:Umm, more drives? by DarkKnightRadick · · Score: 1

      I've bought all my systems to date as used systems and I purchased because of price and specs. I'm not really concerned with what to do with them. Even though in introduces a bit more dust, I keep them open so as to allow better airflow.

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    10. Re:Umm, more drives? by drsmithy · · Score: 1

      It even uses the power.

      Indeed. Only a few months ago I was searching long and hard to find a case that had enough 5.25 bays (10+) to build a decent fileserver with, using these. Eventually I managed to find an Antec 1200 at about 50% off list and went with that, but damn it was difficult find _any_ cases with that many bays, that a) weren't rackmount or b) weren't stupidly expensive.

    11. Re:Umm, more drives? by Inner_Child · · Score: 1

      Sure you can put more 3.5" drives in those bays, but you can only attach one side unless you have something put inside the larger bay so you can stabilize both sides of the drive.

      http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811993004&cm_re=5.25_bracket-_-11-993-004-_-Product

      For just over a buck, it's not a bad deal. Chances are you can hit a local shop and get them for close to the same price.

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    12. Re:Umm, more drives? by value_added · · Score: 1

      Only a few months ago I was searching long and hard to find a case that had enough 5.25 bays (10+) to build a decent fileserver with ...

      This tower should do the trick. You can fit 12 hot swap drives in a 2U, but if you want something quieter, less expensive, and with space for your 10 drives and have room to expand, a proper 4U chassis is what I'd think you want.

      A 4U, incidentally, can be as quiet as comparable desktop. And with a custom cabinet (with or without rails), it will look a helluva lot nicer, not to mention that you'll have none of the cabling mess, etc. typically associated with tower setups.

    13. Re:Umm, more drives? by DarkKnightRadick · · Score: 1

      Awesome (:

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    14. Re:Umm, more drives? by RulerOf · · Score: 1

      I have two of those 5-in-3 SATA enclosures in my desktop. It's a Lian-Li tower, about $200. Newegg doesn't stock it anymore else I'd link you, but those combined with the case's internal storage gave me 22 3.5" slots, which is enough for me. Not sure if $200 is what you consider "stupidly expensive," but if you look around, Lian-Li still makes some.

      Also, I think the Coolermaster Stacker cases come with up to 9 5.25 bays, so that could work too.

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    15. Re:Umm, more drives? by nabsltd · · Score: 1

      For just over a buck, it's not a bad deal.

      Since it's actually $8 when you include shipping, it's not so good a deal after all. Even buying 10 only lowers the per-unit total cost to $3.

      Chances are you can hit a local shop and get them for close to the same price.

      I've looked, and they are about $5 in local stores. I purchased a case of 24 from Best Buy for Business for less than $30 including shipping, but that was about 3 years ago.

      I use this case for my smaller servers, which allows me to have 6 hard drives by using three of the 5-1/4" bays with adapters. With this motherboard, you can put an awful lot of computing power into a small space, and it's much quieter than rack mount solutions.

    16. Re:Umm, more drives? by JWSmythe · · Score: 1

          They've had the adapters for years now. I always had a few laying around, in case I wanted to add yet another drive to a PC that didn't have any more 3.25" bays. Most of mine, I salvaged out of machines being thrown away. Folks seem to think I'm the person to give their junk PC's to, so I take the parts I want and trash the rest.

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    17. Re:Umm, more drives? by DarkKnightRadick · · Score: 1

      I'm sure they have, just never seen them sold. I figured they were all/mostly in local brick and mortar stores or homebrew.

      If I remove my internal zip drive (click-of-death affected) and internal floppy drive (which doesn't even work, I think) I'll have 4 3.5" bays (same amount as my 5.25" bays, oddly enough). Even odder? I don't have enough IDE channels for 7 HDDs and 1 DVD multidrive (HP dvd1040i) so I don't see the point unless I upgrade the motherboard (which means upgrading, at this point, everything else except the year old PSU).

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    18. Re:Umm, more drives? by KlaymenDK · · Score: 1

      I have four of those 5" bays, and one 3" bay (screw the decimals:-p ). I have one DVD-drive, but the rest are not used for anything at all but air. Why then? The Antec P182 is one of the best for passive cooling, featuring lots of sound damping and, yes, open space for hot air to go and dissipate in. I'm running a 3GHz dual-core CPU with a passive cooler (and it's doing just fine).

    19. Re:Umm, more drives? by KlaymenDK · · Score: 2, Insightful

      It's a very interesting solution, and good to know that its price and space competitive -- but what about noise? Yes, I realise that you may just not care, and that's fine, but I do, and that's why I'm asking. Don't four drives make an awful racket, what with both spindle noise and their cross harmonics? Are they suspended/dampened/cooled in a sensible way?

    20. Re:Umm, more drives? by KlaymenDK · · Score: 1

      As the other poster said, airflow. It's really your friend if you want to keep your system's noise level down. And if you're particular about your components (or software), a Mac Mini (or similarly-sized case) is probably not the best bet.

    21. Re:Umm, more drives? by DarkKnightRadick · · Score: 1

      That's pretty much my setup (aside from proc speed, which is a measly 2.4GHz PIV (yes, it is ancient)). 1 DVD drive, two actual 3" hdd's, and nothing else except open space and two fans (not including PSU fans and CPU fan).

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    22. Re:Umm, more drives? by petermgreen · · Score: 1

      Even odder? I don't have enough IDE channels for 7 HDDs and 1 DVD multidrive
      You do know you can get controllers for pretty much every type of drive interface you could want on a PCI or PCIe card right?

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    23. Re:Umm, more drives? by JWSmythe · · Score: 1

          I do agree that most of the manufacturers do go overboard with the drive bays. I built a new machine around Christmas time for myself. It's in the cheapest case they had, with a power supply that would handle my motherboard. It also has a clear sid, so I can look straight in. :) It has 4 5.25" bays and 6 3.5" bays. While it's overkill, I do appreciate having the extra space. It makes for a larger air mass, so the machine doesn't try to overheat as much. The ambient temp in the house is 82F right now. The motherboard temp is 99F, and the CPU is at 113F. That is with a 90CFM exhaust fan (added on), and the smaller (probably 20-30CFM) intake fan.

          But, for utilization of all the bays, you do not have to depend on just the onboard ports. I built a backup server a few years ago. I just grabbed some old parts that were laying around, including 8 120GB IDE drives. Two drives were set up as RAID1 for the OS. The other 6 were RAID5 for backup storage. it's an intermediary step between the servers and the tapes. I can't say that I've seen too many machines with 6 IDE ports onboard. I picked up 3 Promise IDE controllers.

          The first two drives went on as PRI and SEC master. The CD went on as PRI slave. The remaining 6 drives were all configured master, and put on their own channel (one PRI master and one SEC master per card).

          In theory with this configuration, I could have put in 16 drives.

          I'm selling a bunch of 4 port Adaptec SATA RAID controllers on eBay right now. You could fill your case with SATA drives and hook them all up with just one card, assuming you have 4 ports already. The hard part is cabling it, and ensuring your power supply is strong enough to handle all those drives, and keeping it cool. I have 13 still listed. I'm keeping two for myself, in case I want to use them sometime. :)

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    24. Re:Umm, more drives? by DarkKnightRadick · · Score: 1

      I do, but again, it's a matter of upgrading the board (which has certain flakey components (such as the PS/2 ports and soon to be the builtin USB ports).

      One for 5-port USB card, one for NIC, one for sound, AGP for video (video needs to be replaced btw) leaves me with two unused slots (one of which may not work).

      Just saying. My board is toast.

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    25. Re:Umm, more drives? by DarkKnightRadick · · Score: 1

      broke at the moment, but thanks for the info.

      My PSU is 650W, should handle a bunch more than what I have easily.

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    26. Re:Umm, more drives? by T-Bone-T · · Score: 1

      The holes are placed not just to allow a certain amount of air but to also direct its flow. You've screwed up your case's airflow by leaving the bays open like that.

    27. Re:Umm, more drives? by dysan27 · · Score: 1

      Or if you have 3 spare 5.25" bays you could use something like this http://www.silverstonetek.com/products/p_contents.php?pno=CFP52B&area=usa

    28. Re:Umm, more drives? by DarkKnightRadick · · Score: 1

      Can't tell with how cool everything is in there.

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    29. Re:Umm, more drives? by DarkKnightRadick · · Score: 1

      That's pretty sweet. (:

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    30. Re:Umm, more drives? by maxwell+demon · · Score: 1

      Havn't you peasants heard of RAIT?

      Redundant Array of Independent Tapes?

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    31. Re:Umm, more drives? by networkBoy · · Score: 1

      cooled, yes.
      not much else, but since they are only in when making a backup, it's not so bad.

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    32. Re:Umm, more drives? by HTH+NE1 · · Score: 1

      You do know you can get controllers for pretty much every type of drive interface you could want on a PCI or PCIe card right?

      Finally, I can get some use out of those old full-height Disk ][ drives on a modern machine! 140 KB floppies again! Some RWTS source code and a 6502 coprocessor board and I'll have my classic T-800 running and hunting down the Connor family in no time!

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    33. Re:Umm, more drives? by Kvasio · · Score: 1

      I use ST-506 drives, you insensitive clod!

    34. Re:Umm, more drives? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      you mean RAID?

  4. Rent it out to homeless ppl by Spy+Handler · · Score: 1

    for cheap.

  5. cable management by Vandil+X · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I simply tuck the excess ribbon and power cables in the empty drive bays. Even easier if you get some cable management clips, the kind with adhesive to stick to the wall of the bays. This way you maximize airflow and such.

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    1. Re:cable management by CastrTroy · · Score: 1

      I've really wanted to get a modular power supply so you don't have to worry about all those extra wires. Pair that up with SATA CDROM and hard drives, and you'd elimiate all the big wires from your case.

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    2. Re:cable management by omglolbah · · Score: 1

      Sadly most of them have a pile of "default" cables that cant be removed. This usually includes the motherboard and 6-pin GPU cables.

      These cables need to be long to reach "any" configuration so they tend to need space to be tied down :(

    3. Re:cable management by CastrTroy · · Score: 1

      Looking at the picture of the one I linked to, it seems like all of them can be removed. I don't see why they would only make some of them removable. Although I don't think there would be that many people who would would remove the motherboard cable.

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    4. Re:cable management by greenlead · · Score: 1

      The problem with modular power supplies is that they aren't completely modular. Usually, the main cable contains a bunch of connectors, some of which will not be used. Modular power supplies would be much more useful if each cable contained only one plug. I think I had all of about one cable not used when I reconfigured my desktop recently. The case is just as messy as it would have been with a standard power supply.

    5. Re:cable management by idle12 · · Score: 1

      pfft, just cut any extra cables off.

    6. Re:cable management by talesin · · Score: 1

      Bah, tucking ribbon cables into drive bays. No one remembers cable-gami any more... young whippersnappers with your SATA cables, zip ties and stickum.
      Give me a 40 or 80-conductor IDE cable and five minutes, I'll hand you back a cable that keeps ITSELF tight and flat to the back of the case. WAY better airflow than rounded cables, pointless spaghetti, or unmaintainable 'tree trunk' ziptied bundles most 'modern' cases tend to house at this point, just because the thin little cables are /easier/ for people who don't know what they're doing.

      Well, that and.. y'know. The better throughput.

    7. Re:cable management by DocSavage64109 · · Score: 1

      My latest power supply (Corsair HX 850) has removable cables for the vid card, and drives. The main mobo cord was solid. (Not sure about the two optional +4s that went with it). The only downside, is now I have a little bag of extra cables to store somewhere.

  6. More hard drives. by RobVB · · Score: 3, Informative

    Three 5.25" drive bays above each other can hold a case with four 3.5" drive bays and a 120mm fan. Thermaltake sells them, as do zillions of other companies.

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    1. Re:More hard drives. by Nkwe · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Three 5.25" drive bays above each other can hold a case with four 3.5" drive bays and a 120mm fan. Thermaltake sells them, as do zillions of other companies.

      Five drives actually.

    2. Re:More hard drives. by Spazmania · · Score: 1

      The five-drive cases suck rocks when it comes to cooling. There isn't enough space between drives to move the air. Thermaltake's 4-drive converter actually keeps the drives cool, improving their life span.

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    3. Re:More hard drives. by hitmark · · Score: 1

      makes those maxi-towers that are all 5.25" fronts quite interesting as a NAS.

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    4. Re:More hard drives. by click2005 · · Score: 2, Interesting
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    5. Re:More hard drives. by calzakk · · Score: 1

      Where's the fan?

    6. Re:More hard drives. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    7. Re:More hard drives. by Pentium100 · · Score: 1

      2.5" drives are more expensive per gigabyte than 3.5" ones.

      Also, they are smaller in capacity, probably 5 3.5" drives would have the same capacity as 8 2.5" drives.

    8. Re:More hard drives. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      d'oh, it's on the rear!

    9. Re:More hard drives. by Pentium100 · · Score: 1

      Yea. I have one of those. It has 11 5.25" bays, so I am using 6 of them to mount 8 hard drives, I also have mounted a DDS4 tape drive and a DVDRW drive (I also had a LTO drive in there, but moved it to an external enclosure to better cool it) and have 3 bays left for another 4 hard drives. Though I would need a IDE or SATA controller (or buy SCSI drives) since all I have left now is one connector on an IDE cable.

    10. Re:More hard drives. by actionbastard · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Three 5.25" bays hold twelve 2.5" drives with a combined capacity of twelve TB.

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    11. Re:More hard drives. by Spazmania · · Score: 1

      More drives = faster raid. And that's before considering that 2.5" drives have an inherently faster seek time than 3.5" drives simply because of the smaller circumference of the platter.

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    12. Re:More hard drives. by bill_mcgonigle · · Score: 1

      More drives = faster raid. And that's before considering that 2.5" drives have an inherently faster seek time than 3.5" drives simply because of the smaller circumference of the platter.

      But slower transfer because the on-platter density is typically lower. Know your workload, and all that.

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    13. Re:More hard drives. by Salpula · · Score: 1

      Seriously do this and set up a Raid-5, then grab handbrake and start ripping all your media to it. If you want to you can then buy an ION based nettop(around $200) and setup an HTPC wherever your TV is and get full hardware decoding of video, and your whole library on demand!

    14. Re:More hard drives. by arth1 · · Score: 1

      Also, they are smaller in capacity, probably 5 3.5" drives would have the same capacity as 8 2.5" drives.

      When running RAID, that's a plus for the smaller drives. Losing 1/8 of the space to parity is better than losing 1/5. Plus, it gives you greater versatility. 8 drives lets you run RAID 5+0, for example.

      Another plus for the smaller drives is that it's easier to spin them faster. The momentum per platter is lower, and the risk of the head aeroplaning is smaller due to lower angular velocity. Which is why the Velociraptor changed from 3.5" to 2.5" (in a 3.5" package). This lowers latency and access times.

      Then there's cooling. The surface area is relatively higher the smaller something is. 8 2.5" drives will have more exposed surface than 5 3.5" drives.

      The larger drives excel at sustained transfer speeds, as the head easily covers twice the distance as for a small drive at the same spin rate. And you need fewer SATA/SAS heads to hook them up.
      But that's about it.

    15. Re:More hard drives. by bill_mcgonigle · · Score: 1

      oops, that wasn't Preview. .... and if you really care about seeks put SSD's in front of the hard drives, with ZFS or bcache type technology. You can cut your power consumption by 80% too. As they say, "ZFS loves cheap drives".

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    16. Re:More hard drives. by Pentium100 · · Score: 1

      In that case you can use SSDs - even faster seek. Also, 15000RPM drives are even faster (though they are only 2.5" with larger drives being the same small disks but in a bigger case). I usually need capacity and do not really care about speed - as long as the drive can sustain 40MB/s linear read to feed the LTO2 tape drive.

      As the system drive on my main PC I use a 36GB 15kRPM drive. All other computers have 10kRPM but quite old (9 - 18GB) drives as system. Data storage drives usually are 7200RPM and connected to IDE (two drives per cable, 4 drives per two port controller plugged in a PCI 32bit/33MHz slot).

    17. Re:More hard drives. by PhrstBrn · · Score: 1

      You can get better IOPs and throughput with 8-2.5" drives vs 5-3.5" drives in a disk array.

    18. Re:More hard drives. by Pentium100 · · Score: 1

      Losing 1/8 of the space to parity is better than losing 1/5. Plus, it gives you greater versatility. 8 drives lets you run RAID 5+0, for example.

      However, the probability of two drives failing at once (or another drive failing during rebuild) is higher for an 8 drive array instead of a 5 drive array.

      Still, if you need that much speed, just use SSDs - they have faster seeks than any spinning disk.

      But that's about it.

      Also price.

      That's why I'm planning to buy a server that has 8 3.5" hard drive slots. I would be able to use 2 fast drives in RAID1 as system drive and 4 1.5-2TB 7200RPM drives for data and also have 2 empty slots for additional drives when I run out of space. The speed will be enough for me.

    19. Re:More hard drives. by rcw-home · · Score: 1

      Your preference really depends on whether you're buying GB or I/Os per second.

    20. Re:More hard drives. by WuphonsReach · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Three 5.25" bays hold twelve 2.5" drives with a combined capacity of twelve TB.

      Ick, ick, ick. So you're proposing to fit a case with a bunch of noisy, underperforming, low air volume 40mm fans? And not just 2, but 6? And you expect those fans to last for more then a few months before they start making even more noise?

      At least the earlier linked 2.5" backplane uses a pair of 60mm fans. Which are going to be quieter and more likely to last. I'd bet they move enough air to keep those 8 drives cool as well, even in a warmer location.

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    21. Re:More hard drives. by drsmithy · · Score: 2, Informative

      The five-drive cases suck rocks when it comes to cooling. There isn't enough space between drives to move the air. Thermaltake's 4-drive converter actually keeps the drives cool, improving their life span.

      I have 4 of these in an Antec 1200, and with the stock fans replaced with Noctua NF-B9 fans, it's not only nearly silent it keeps the drives under about 38 C (100 F). Since Google's research showed no appreciable correlation between drive temperature and failures rates until ~45+ C, that's good enough for me.

    22. Re:More hard drives. by bhtooefr · · Score: 1

      SuperMicro's options are 8 2.5" drives in 2 5.25" bays, 4 2.5" drives in 1 5.25" bay, 4 3.5" drives+ventilation in 3 5.25" bays, or 5 3.5" drives in 3 5.25" bays.

      Let's go for maximum density in 3 bays.

      So, your choices are 12 2.5" drives, or 5 3.5" drives.

      $129.99 per drive, 1 TB, for a Samsung Spinpoint MT2, from Newegg. Total of 12 TB, $1559.88. That's the cheapest of the largest size 2.5" drive that Newegg sells.

      $109.99 per drive, 2 TB, for a Hitachi Deskstar 7K2000, also from Newegg. Total of 10 TB, $549.95. That's the cheapest of the largest size 3.5" drive that Newegg sells.

      So, yes, you are far cheaper per TB using desktop drives... but the first rule of circle packing is, the smaller the circles, the more circle surface area you get in. And hard drives are circles with some bits on the end to control them. And that's reflected in the maximum capacity.

    23. Re:More hard drives. by RulerOf · · Score: 1

      put SSD's in front of the hard drives, with ZFS or bcache type technology

      Got any links to example setups or guides as to how or how well that works?

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    24. Re:More hard drives. by bill_mcgonigle · · Score: 1

      this looks pretty good.

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    25. Re:More hard drives. by Spazmania · · Score: 2, Informative

      You mean on this report: http://static.googleusercontent.com/external_content/untrusted_dlcp/labs.google.com/en/us/papers/disk_failures.pdf

      Figure 5 on page 6 shows drives running at temperatures over 35 degrees exhibiting distinctly higher failure rates after year 2. So if you plan to retire your drives after 24 months, then you're probably OK at 38 degrees.

      I wish they'd separated 15-30 degrees into 15-20, 20-25 and 25-30 groupings. The data confirms that running drives too cold is almost as bad as running them too hot but it doesn't offer any hints as to exactly where the problem spikes.

      I've used your supermicro 5-drive cages before. They're the best of the bunch. The front air intakes are quite respectable compared to most 5-drive cages. But even they are crammed too close and there aren't enough holes in the backplane to let the fan drag enough air through the cage.

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    26. Re:More hard drives. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You could do RAID50+2 actually. You'd have to lose 4 drives.

    27. Re:More hard drives. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Except that running RAID5 with a number of drives other than 2^n+1 is suboptimal.

      Think about how RAID5 works and then think some more and you'll see why.

    28. Re:More hard drives. by drsmithy · · Score: 1

      I've used your supermicro 5-drive cages before. They're the best of the bunch. The front air intakes are quite respectable compared to most 5-drive cages. But even they are crammed too close and there aren't enough holes in the backplane to let the fan drag enough air through the cage.

      If your objective is to keep the drives as cool as possible, not to make as little noise as possible while keeping them just cool enough, a much higher airflow fan will easily do so, assuming the ambient temperature is adequately low (like, say, in a DC or server closet).

      I've used these cages in machines in data centres, and they keep the drives just as cool as the hotswap bays in Dell 2950s and the like, and certainly cool enough to fit into that "least failures" temperature bracket.

    29. Re:More hard drives. by badkarmadayaccount · · Score: 1

      Temperature is nearly irrelevant to lifespan - Google made a study on the issue. Just ask 'em.

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    30. Re:More hard drives. by Spazmania · · Score: 1

      Keep them as cool as Dells? That's not hard. Dell's drive bays are notoriously bad. Some of the ones from 4 and 5 years ago are much more poorly designed than the Supermicro cage.

      HP/Compaq had a good cooling design with the U320 drives. Sadly they've demoted themselves to mediocre with the SAS/SATA drives.

      The thermaltake bay converters with the 120cm fan, on the other hand, do a great job keeping the drives nice and cool.

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    31. Re:More hard drives. by drsmithy · · Score: 1

      Keep them as cool as Dells? That's not hard. Dell's drive bays are notoriously bad. Some of the ones from 4 and 5 years ago are much more poorly designed than the Supermicro cage.

      I'm not quite sure I understand your argument. Both Dell's servers and the Supermicro cage are quite capable of keeping drives cool enough to fit into the low failure temperature bracket and you've already noted that keeping them too cool can produce negative affects.

      Once you've hit "cool enough", any more is mostly pointless and at worst damaging.

      The thermaltake bay converters with the 120cm fan, on the other hand, do a great job keeping the drives nice and cool.

      Assuming you're talking about this, they'd damn well want to with only 3/5ths the density. Hell, it'd be a challenge to design the thing badly enough _not_ to keep the drives "nice and cool".

    32. Re:More hard drives. by Spazmania · · Score: 1

      I've lost a lot of drives to poorly designed Dell server cases that didn't keep the drives cool enough. A lot of drives.

      Apologies wrt Thermaltake. I meant to say: http://www.coolermaster.com/product.php?product_id=2542

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    33. Re:More hard drives. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You could delete some old porn as well.

  7. Fleshlight by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    Bonus geek cred: Heated.

    1. Re:Fleshlight by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      MOD PARENT UP!

      Erm, I mean - what's a Fleshlight?

    2. Re:Fleshlight by Bieeanda · · Score: 4, Funny
    3. Re:Fleshlight by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Only if your hard-drives are shock-resistent ;)

    4. Re:Fleshlight by couchslug · · Score: 1

      "Bonus geek cred: Heated."

      No way I'm removing mine from my teddy bear.

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    5. Re:Fleshlight by Tolkien · · Score: 1

      Bonus geek cred: Heated.

      Easy, remove the fans in the tower. :)

  8. Card readers / more front ports by Joe+The+Dragon · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Card readers / more front ports

  9. Stack hard disk drives in RAID by e065c8515d206cb0e190 · · Score: 1

    If you have old-ish disks around, you can build a RAID array (0, 5, whatever). It will increase the performance of your machine.

    For some reason I always liked how 5"1/4 bays provided a lot of space in between 3"1/2 disks, which is probably better in terms of heat management. I remember putting up to 10 disks in a medium tower, using all 5"1/4 bays for disks (who needs a CD when you can install your OS on USB?).

    1. Re:Stack hard disk drives in RAID by sheetsda · · Score: 1

      I already have a 2 TB RAID0 in the internal bays of my case, and have only used a third of it over the past year and a half. A substantial chunk of that amount was copied from my previous machine (0.5 TB RAID0 there, and again extra 5.25 bays). Others have suggested more ports, but my motherboard supports 12 USB ports out of the box and I find I don't have need of that many much less any more. The toaster suggested by a poster above is more along the unusual/creative lines I was thinking. I don't think I'd use one of those, it'd be messy and a cooling nightmare. :)

      Cheers,
      -The submitter.

  10. Software RAID by jonsmirl · · Score: 1

    Build a software RAID array. Your disk performance will be significantly faster since reads can be parallelized out to multiple disks.

    1. Re:Software RAID by DaveAtWorkAnnoyingly · · Score: 1

      Yup, a little excessive but I have eight discs in my rig at the moment, five of which are in those removable caddies and form a 2.5TB array, RAID 6 so two redundant drives. Call me paranoid but I know that one drive will die during the period i'm replacing an already duff drive...

    2. Re:Software RAID by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Parallelized, maybe. But at the cost of going over the same bus, and using CPU to do it.

    3. Re:Software RAID by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Parallelized, maybe. But at the cost of going over the same bus, and using CPU to do it.

      Which brings us to the question, how do you find out what the bottlenecks are? Is there some way to measure these things or do you have to read the specs and do the math and guesswork yourself?

      Probably the oldest and most basic question is the more memory or a faster CPU? Most people never even considered I/O or bus performance which might well be their Achilles' heel.

      And... if you're looking forward to peddle me some wonderful proprietary snake oil laced solution, don't. Rather go ahead and stick it where the sun don't shine, thank you.

  11. Fleshlight mount by sharkey · · Score: 3, Funny

    Warmth and vibration for your Fleshlight.

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    1. Re:Fleshlight mount by Joce640k · · Score: 1

      Has nobody mentioned the fufme yet? (NSFW)

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    2. Re:Fleshlight mount by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That requires two drive bays with no divider between them. I recommend against generating vibrations unless you've already moved to a solid state drive.

    3. Re:Fleshlight mount by couchslug · · Score: 1

      I'll get a Chenbro cube case mod it to hold some of my collection.

      Blue LEDs, a carbon-fibre drip pan, and I'll be stylin'!

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    4. Re:Fleshlight mount by mnix · · Score: 1

      lol - off topic perhaps but they have "Sex In a Can" at the fleshlight store. I've had sex in the can, but never sex in A can. Sex in a drive bay isn't too far away, and it's batteries would always be charged.

  12. BAY AREA SMALL SPACE RENTAL by blai · · Score: 5, Funny

    For only $600 a month. Barely used, like new!*
    Guaranteed bay view.

    *Driver not included

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  13. A cup holder by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    A cup holder, of course.

  14. install lots of usb ports by FudRucker · · Score: 4, Funny

    then start collecting usb thumbdrives and make a RAID array with them.

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    1. Re:install lots of usb ports by Tablizer · · Score: 1

      Or RAIDing the hard-drives. The hard-drive is often the bottleneck these days. If the files could be split across multiple drives it may speed things up, if the OS can handle splitting.

    2. Re:install lots of usb ports by Heratiki · · Score: 2, Informative
    3. Re:install lots of usb ports by Dr.+Zim · · Score: 1

      You mean like this?

      Or... like this.

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  15. Was I the only one who misread that as... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Creative [labs] uses an extra drive bay :) ?

    1. Re:Was I the only one who misread that as... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, I was going to suggest the Live!Drive too so you can jack off in front of your computer.

  16. Water-cooling pumps by Freddybear · · Score: 1, Informative

    You can fit a water-cooling pump and controller system in a 5.25" drive bay.

  17. A Toaster? by fluor2 · · Score: 0, Redundant
    1. Re:A Toaster? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Only YOU can prevent duplicate posts!

    2. Re:A Toaster? by NotBorg · · Score: 1

      What's wrong with duplicate toasts? OMMM NOMMM NOMMM NOMMM!!!!

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  18. Front-panel goodness by Shrubbman · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I recently just dropped one of these in my system the other day. Doing a search for "front panel" on DX can yield quite a number things to fill up those front bay slots with.

    1. Re:Front-panel goodness by WiglyWorm · · Score: 1

      I dislike multi readers like that because every card slot shows up as a drive letter in windows. So I tend to use a USB external card reader.

    2. Re:Front-panel goodness by flerchin · · Score: 1

      That is a pretty slick piece of kit. Did it work in linux without too much fuss?

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    3. Re:Front-panel goodness by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I dislike multi readers like that because every card slot shows up as a drive letter in windows

      Mine did too, until I went into Device Manager and disabled all the "drives" I never use.

    4. Re:Front-panel goodness by 5pp000 · · Score: 1

      My favorite is from AeroCool (I have a previous model) -- includes a fan controller and thermal monitor.

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    5. Re:Front-panel goodness by RulerOf · · Score: 1

      I dislike multi readers like that because every card slot shows up as a drive letter in windows.

      That only happens when you're using a nearly-decade-old operating system. Come join us in the modern world and behold the "Hide Empty Drives" option ;-)

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    6. Re:Front-panel goodness by slaingod · · Score: 1

      Hide empty drives can be pretty annoying when you are ripping a few discs in a row (pretty much the only time I use my DVD drive) as it keeps moving the selected folders each time you pop the drive. Obviously your suggestion is valid, just that as with many things in windows, it is a double edged sword, lol. Kind of like auto-hide taskbar...works great *most* of the time, but not all of the time. Gets stuck open often enough that I have a shortcut that kills and restarts explorer.

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    7. Re:Front-panel goodness by nabsltd · · Score: 1

      That only happens when you're using a nearly-decade-old operating system.

      I'm using Windows XP and my card reader doesn't use any drive letters and linux doesn't use any drive letters at all. I'm hard pressed to think of a "nearly-decade-old" desktop OS still in common use today that isn't able to mount drives at abitrary points in the file system.

      Come join us in the modern world and behold the "Hide Empty Drives" option.

      As far as I know, this only removes the drives from display in Explorer...it does not de-allocate the drive letters.

    8. Re:Front-panel goodness by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 1

      It isn't commonly known; but you can actually assign drives(HDDs or card slots) to empty directories on an existing NTFS partition, rather than a drive letter, in XP(and presumably later).

      Snide comments about "those who do not understand unix are condemned to reinvent it..." aside, this can actually make your life a lot easier.

      Just create a folder on your desktop(or wherever you prefer to have them) for each slot you actually use. Name the folder according to the slot type. Using disk manager, remove the drive letter allocations from all the card slots, and assign the folders you just created to the slots you want. When there is no card there, the folder is empty, if you shove a CF card in, the "CF" folder is suddenly full of whatever that card contained.

      (This trick is a particular lifesaver in institutional environments where people have a dozen or two smb mounts with drive letters, that inevitably keep getting clobbered by physical devices that steal the same drive letters, causing various horrible legacy programs to break.)

    9. Re:Front-panel goodness by palndrumm · · Score: 1

      USBDLM. 'nuff said. :)

    10. Re:Front-panel goodness by Chimel31 · · Score: 1

      I think "Hide Empty Drives" is the default option in Windows 7, but it did nothing for the 5 drives from my multi-card reader.
      I had to disable manually the drivers for the drives I don't use to stop them from being displayed in Windows Explorer.

    11. Re:Front-panel goodness by Chimel31 · · Score: 1

      Don't hide the empty drives globally, just disable the drivers for the drives you don't use. That should solve your problem.

  19. Whats the point? by adosch · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I've been through the days where I wanted to do zillions of case mod's to my desktop PC; everything from a 5.25" toggled-switch fan controller bus to microcontroller-controlled lighting system that steals/slaves the 5v power from the PSU (which was pretty bitchin', btw).

    All I'm saying is if you're super duper struggling to find a DIY solution to extra 5.25" bays in your PC and went as fas as to ask slashdot'ers what they think, I'd either: 1) just buy a new, slimline case that doesn't have extra bays, 2) take your girlfriend/wife/best friend out to lunch or 3) keep the money in the bank; anything else is just going to be a geek-fad money pit that'll die out sooner than it takes you find another idea to use that empty space for.

    1. Re:Whats the point? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Jesus Christ dude.

  20. One idea by JanneM · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Use the space as a shelf and place your external networked backup drive inside. Just because it's logically separate doesn't mean it has to clutter up some corner of the room all by itself. Or your wifi station, though you'll need to let the antenna stick out of course.

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    1. Re:One idea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      !? But if you never remove it from that bay all you've done is, rather circuitously, installed a really slow hard drive in your case.

    2. Re:One idea by line-bundle · · Score: 1

      That's stupid. What if your computer gets stolen. Backup goes too?

    3. Re:One idea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What happens to your backup when the pc sets on fire? Backups away from the main computer is rule one surely?

    4. Re:One idea by JanneM · · Score: 1

      That's stupid. What if your computer gets stolen. Backup goes too?

      As opposed to when the thing sits on the floor a meter or two away from the computer? It's meant to protect from drive failure and user error ("damn, I didn't mean to delete that"), not from rare events like theft.

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    5. Re:One idea by JanneM · · Score: 1

      !? But if you never remove it from that bay all you've done is, rather circuitously, installed a really slow hard drive in your case.

      And that logic is valid whether it's in the bay or sitting on the floor or desk next to it. Which means a networked drive is probably not a very high-priority peripheral if your household has only one computer.

      If you do have several computers, however, a networked drive is really useful. It lets you do backups from all of them, and have a local shared data space without having to have one computer constantly up and running. Less power, less noise. And for those benefits it doesn't matter where the drive physically sits.

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    6. Re:One idea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Unless you're backing up externally in case your main storage catches fire...

  21. toliet paper storage... by xeroedouttwice · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...for those times when you need to clean your keyboard.

    1. Re:toliet paper storage... by Rob+the+Bold · · Score: 1

      ...for those times when you need to clean your keyboard.

      That's funny, but I had a case so big once that I stored the boxes all the add-on cards came in inside the case.

      I suppose you could also "put your weed in there".

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    2. Re:toliet paper storage... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    3. Re:toliet paper storage... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ...for those times when you need to clean your keyboard.

      Damn, I was drinking a huge bottle of Diet Coke when I read your hilarious comment... now I wish I had one of those toilet paper storage devices so I could clean the ejaculate from my keyboard.

    4. Re:toliet paper storage... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Or your monitor.

      (Slashdot: Redefining "Screen saver" since 1999.)

  22. Lockbox by meerling · · Score: 5, Interesting

    A key secured storage space for things like usb thumb drives and my password mini-list. Stuff that's important enough to not leave lying around, but not so important it would really hurt if someone else got it. (like root passwords, full password logbook, credit/debit cards, etc.)

    1. Re:Lockbox by noidentity · · Score: 1

      So if your computer ever gets stolen or seized, you lose the things in that box too. Nice.

    2. Re:Lockbox by GrumblyStuff · · Score: 1

      Indeed. Granted, if they have the time and capacity to yoink your desktop, a lockbox would be just as easy to take. ...unless you have it bolted to the floor or wall studs (but even then...). Best design I've seen was one sunk into the concrete floor. Easy to miss and good fucking luck making off with that.

      Though now that I think about it, having a half a dozen around the house as decoys would be great to confound and frustrate any thieves.

    3. Re:Lockbox by WiglyWorm · · Score: 1

      Is there a repaired solution? I'd love to see one if you have a link. Especially if it were wide enough to fit important DVDs.

    4. Re:Lockbox by Maxwell · · Score: 1

      I have an old 5.25" lockable, swappable, IDE caddy. Since USB drives came out and are way better at hot plugging than IDE I no longer have a drive in it. I use it to store usb sticks, password list on paper, other bits of things. Keeps the PC stuff out of the desk drawer. I just checked and it doesn't fit DVD's. It normally hold a 3.5" drive and the area where the lock is is 'fixed' so a DVD can't be inserted.

  23. Another idea by JanneM · · Score: 1

    How about a small fridge unit, enough to cool a few cans of beer? I'm sure ThinkGeek could come up with something that'd fit right into two bays, with a separate spring-loaded bay for each can.

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    1. Re:Another idea by gblackwo · · Score: 1

      And you want to put the heat created from cooling those beers where? Into the already hot computer?

    2. Re:Another idea by CastrTroy · · Score: 1

      You could probably vent it out of the top of the computer.

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    3. Re:Another idea by kelarius · · Score: 1

      Rig up water cooling to exhaust the heat out of the back of the PC

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    4. Re:Another idea by gblackwo · · Score: 1

      A fellow ME?

    5. Re:Another idea by gblackwo · · Score: 1

      A heat exchanger for beer, brilliant.

    6. Re:Another idea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm sure ThinkGeek could come up with something that'd fit right into two bays

      ThinkGeek can go fuck themselves.

    7. Re:Another idea by Hognoxious · · Score: 4, Funny

      And you want to put the heat created from cooling those beers where?

      Into the hotplate for keeping your coffee warm. Do I have to do all the thinking round here?

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  24. I do not care by houghi · · Score: 1

    My PC is as far away as possible in the corner under my table. I have a USB DVD player on my desk and a USB connection for all my other things I want to connect to it (Camera, ...)

    But if I had to select something, I would go for this: http://us.gizmodo.com/gadgets/images/beer_pc.jpg

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    1. Re:I do not care by Pentium100 · · Score: 1

      You like 50C beer?

    2. Re:I do not care by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Must be European ... ;)

    3. Re:I do not care by Pentium100 · · Score: 1

      :)

      Still, the inside of a working computer on a hot day can be 50 degrees. Any beer stored there would be the same temperature, so it looks like a computer would be better storing coffee or tea, since hot tea is better than hot beer.

    4. Re:I do not care by maxwell+demon · · Score: 1

      In addition to a cup of hot tea, don't forget the Bambleweeny 57 Sub-Meson Brain and the atomic vector plotter.

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  25. F U F Me by gmiernicki · · Score: 5, Funny

    http://goo.gl/BLBo Too bad they don't sell these anymore. Mine works great!

    1. Re:F U F Me by ifij775 · · Score: 1

      That's a classic!

    2. Re:F U F Me by cjpa · · Score: 1

      Man! That's been a while someone mentioned FUFME! Was already a meme when i started to read /. in the late 90's.

    3. Re:F U F Me by coaxial · · Score: 1

      Actually, teledildonic products have continously been brought to market. Of course Fuck-U-Fuck-Me, will always have a place in my heart, just because of the punny name.

    4. Re:F U F Me by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      yeah, but I hear that they really screwed people with the pricing

  26. Flipstylee by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm rocking a toaster, got 3 drive bays and a power supply that's otherwise wasted... might aswell have toast while i rip sh*t... keeping the butter solid is my most recent quandary...

  27. Power supply by Sarten-X · · Score: 3, Interesting

    An acquaintance of mine converted his extra bays in a full-size tower to a storage space for often-needed electronics. There were drawers for transistors, LEDs, regular diodes, some ICs, and the other little bits he used often in his robot-building hobby. The top bay had a current limiter in it, cleaning and isolating the power supplied to plugs on the front, fed from the PC supply.

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    1. Re:Power supply by NFN_NLN · · Score: 1

      An acquaintance of mine converted his extra bays in a full-size tower to a storage space for often-needed electronics. There were drawers for transistors, LEDs, regular diodes, some ICs, and the other little bits he used often in his robot-building hobby. The top bay had a current limiter in it, cleaning and isolating the power supplied to plugs on the front, fed from the PC supply.

      I found one. Cool idea: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811997201

    2. Re:Power supply by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      in his robot-building hobby.

      Was he building a sex robot, per chance? A male sex robot?

    3. Re:Power supply by shakezula · · Score: 1

      I think this is an excellent use for empty front slots--and also a good idea for a simple DC power source. One could wire a couple direct plug DC charger ports at 12v (even a ciggy lighter to power small car accessories). This could be taken a step farther by building voltage regulators on breadboard mounted in one of the bays to power things at 3.3v, etc. Even a single bay would be able to hold a plethora of connectors.

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    4. Re:Power supply by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Chris? It's Malissa. If you're not him, then ignore this reply.

  28. you put your weed in there! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    http://www.ebaumsworld.com/video/watch/989051/

  29. multi-drive hot-swap kit by Rudeboy777 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I realize not everyone runs RAID 5 on their PC, but I do and for maximum convenience and cooling, convert 2 of those bays into 3-drive hot-swappable goodness.

    http://www.istarusa.com/rackmount_chassis/product/BPU-230SATA/2x5.25_inch_to_3x3.5_inch_SATA2.0_Hot-Swap_Backplane_Raid_Cage.aspx

    There is a large fan behind the drives which keeps drive temperatures very low (especially since I've only got single-platter 500GB Seagates in there).

    This is a MUCH better option than multiple single-slot 5.25" trays with their tiny fans and lousy cooling.

    I'm pretty sure this manufacturer does even larger units occupying 3 bays (RAID 10 anyone?)

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  31. monitor by Emmeau · · Score: 5, Interesting

    build a monitor in the drivebays http://tweakers.net/ext/f/yH7HML9VL2L3Rk5OK5grdosF/full.jpg full story (dutch) http://gathering.tweakers.net/forum/list_messages/1359397/0//scherm%2Cdrivebay All credit goes to Terw_Dan here, not my mod. Very impressive, and most useful solution of the drivebay space i've seen so far.

    1. Re:monitor by houghi · · Score: 1

      This is so cool. Mod parent up. It is better then all the "Put HDs in there" posts and is actually a good idea.

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    2. Re:monitor by AltairDusk · · Score: 1

      That is a cool idea, although I can see viewing angles being an issue depending where the case is located. I prefer using my 5.25" bays for airflow, the Antec 1200 already does this by design with each group of 3 drive bays (other than the very top-most 3) having a 120mm fan pulling air in with a small rheostat to adjust the speed of each fan. By keeping the bays in front of the video cards empty and turning up that fan I can keep my cards running cool without having to crank up the fan speed too far on the cards themselves.

  32. Front Panel Sound Bay and 120mm Fan by sanosuke001 · · Score: 1

    - I have a sound card with a front panel bay with RCA inputs, mic/headphone jacks and volume controls as well as some sound preset buttons which takes up one bay.

    - Three other bays (my case has 7 total) has a 120mm fan enclosure for air intake (cold air in front of the case means i don't recycle warm air from the back)

    - Two bays have a BD-RE/HD-DVD combo drive and a DVD-RW

    - The last bay has a fan speed control bay with four nobs to tune fans in my case.


    Some other interesting things I've seen are water cooling reservoirs with see-through ports; looks cool if you use fluorescent liquid additives. Also, some HUD-like bays that display system status info; I've even seen some with USB connections to get info from within the OS like HDD/RAM/CPU usage and temperature information.

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  33. Store User Guides, Manuals, Invoices, Warranties by Cycloid+Torus · · Score: 5, Informative

    When I finish a build, I fill a ziplok poly bag full of all the stuff which I got with the parts I used for the box. Then I stuff it in a 5.25" bay which doesn't block ventilation. Sure beats looking though the stack of paper under my desk or in boxes or spare part bins.

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  34. You put your... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You put your weed in there!

  35. hard drive bay by null8 · · Score: 1

    I have on of those http://www.coolermaster.com/product.php?product_id=2542 Also, It depends on what you prefer.If you are a "usefull hardware" guy, take a hard drive bay, if you are a system administrator, buy a toaster or a coffe mug holder(unless you use cd-drive tray for that).

    1. Re:hard drive bay by iamhassi · · Score: 1

      I also have one. My PC has no 3.5" bays, the entire thing is 5.25" bays, so these 4-in-3 Cooler Master hard drive bays is where my four hard drives go. Huge 120mm fan keeps the drives very cool.

      Reasonably priced at only $20
      http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817993002

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  36. 5.25" floppy? by toonie · · Score: 2, Funny

    Stick a 5.25 inch floppy disk drive in there, just for the pose value.

    1. Re:5.25" floppy? by WhirledOne · · Score: 1

      Who's joking? I was actually just starting to wonder why nobody even made the suggestion of a 5.25" diskettte drive. I used to do that all the time-- at least, until several years ago when I discovered that the spiffy new motherboard I bought no longer supported 5.25" floppy drives. It was really handy for getting data from old diskettes and putting them onto more modern media.

      I don't know if Windows 7 has 5.25" floppy support (I haven't tried), but Windows XP certainly does-- all the way back to the original 160K single-sided format from DOS 1.0. Windows XP/2000 even identifies 5.25 drives with a cute little icon that looks like a 5.25" diskette (instead of the usual 3.5" diskette icon).

    2. Re:5.25" floppy? by Tacvek · · Score: 1

      Windows 7 apparently does support 5.25 drives, and has even better drive image for it, at least if you set large icon sizes. See http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8gGHKALIYI

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    3. Re:5.25" floppy? by mr_mischief · · Score: 1

      The motherboard in this PC doesn't support any floppy drives unless I get a USB one.

      The box sitting next to me has a 5.25", a 3.5", a DDS3 tape drive, a CD-ROM (I have enough DVD burners in other PCs it really doesn't need a burner, and I didn't have a SCSI burner lying around -- all the PATA are taken up by hard drives), a system PATA drive and a three PATA in software RAID 5. That's the system with my ZIp-250 hooked up to it, too. It' was my main Linux desktop at my office before I started working out of my house, and I used it for a lot of data recovery and emulation for older stuff.

      Somewhere in this house I have a working 250-megabyte tape drive, but it's not installed in anything right now.

  37. May case only has 5.25" bays, 9 of them by OrangeTide · · Score: 1

    Nine external 5.25" bays and some fan modules(120mm) that fit in three bays with mounts for three 3.5" drives. at first you might thing it is a waste of space to put one 3.5" drive per 5.25" bay, but the extra space allows for airflow around the drive keeping them nice and cool. Thermaltake M9 and there are a few others with an identical 9-drive configuration.

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  38. EZ Bake Oven by Lifyre · · Score: 2, Interesting

    EZ Bake oven is the ultimate in easy quick snack goodness!

    http://www.thinkgeek.com/stuff/41/ezbake.shtml

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    1. Re:EZ Bake Oven by Cyko_01 · · Score: 1

      most creative idea I've read so far

  39. Cigarette Lighter and Cup Holder Bay Insert by Esteanil · · Score: 1

    I much prefer the Cigarette Lighter and Cup Holder Bay Insert, guaranteed to break up fellow geeks, and it holds cups, too!

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  40. aquarium? by AffidavitDonda · · Score: 1

    how about a mini aquarium? would look funny...

  41. Fans fans fans by WiglyWorm · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I have a nice HD bay fan It works out great, because my HD bays are directly in line with my CPU heatsink, I got a couple more MHz out of my overclock upon installing this,

  42. what do you do with these drive bays? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    you can put your weed in there

  43. Micro Grow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Grow you favorite flavor of head stash, a Micro Grow

  44. How much time / money do you want to spend? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    - Snack storage (no chocolate)
    - Snack machine (no chocolate) (lots of work)
    - Keep warm storage for coffee and pizza (ducted from CPU/PS exhaust)
    - Book case for tech manuals
    - Lit insulated goldfish bowl (space theme)
    - Insulated ant farm (plus points for backlight and transparent colored sand)
    - Small 3D TV (looks like the things are inside your PC)
    - All kinds of blinkin' lights and readouts attached to various signals (lots of work)
    - Lit glass terrarium for super hero figurines and other useless collectables

  45. Weed. Dope. MJ. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Keep your non-prescription pharmacy in there.

  46. Lots of spare drive bays? by Peet42 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Lots of old drives that are too small to be useful?

    Try screwing a drive into every second bay. Make sure you use at least four screws per drive, preferably six...

    The extra mass and rigidity of the drives will damp vibrations and make your computer sound *much* quieter. You don't need to actually wire the drives to anything.

    You're welcome.

    1. Re:Lots of spare drive bays? by qwerty+shrdlu · · Score: 1

      Or put a clean install of your OS and _nothing_ else on one of these drives. You never know...

  47. a drawer for CDs and doc by kubitus · · Score: 1

    keep the original media and doc ready

  48. Blinkenlights by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That's all you need.

  49. CD/DVD storage by Yvan256 · · Score: 3, Interesting
    1. Re:CD/DVD storage by Maeric · · Score: 1

      http://www.xpcgear.com/cdhomesblue.html

      Love this idea. Wish there was a website that offered it that shipped to Canada by default.

    2. Re:CD/DVD storage by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Who let those out of 1992?

  50. Obviously... by Essequemodeia · · Score: 0, Redundant

    You put your weed in it.

    1. Re:Obviously... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      or store a cowbell.

  51. Warning - 12v outlet not for accessories... by aapold · · Score: 2, Informative

    I have one of these. I charge my celphone with it using my car charger if I forgot the usb cable. However, once I needed to clean a (diferent) pc case and got the bright idea of using one of those 12v mini car vacuum cleaners. It lasted about 1.5 seconds before the PC just up and died. Fortunately no permanent damage was done. There probably was a warning about that somewhere in the discarded small print... I think the cup holder was supposed to be an ashtray actually. I use it to hold extra screws and stuff like that. The actual lighter on mine broke long ago though.

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    1. Re:Warning - 12v outlet not for accessories... by MichaelSmith · · Score: 1

      Years ago when I was single I built a cable to run small devices off the power outlet on the power supply of my computer. This is the outlet which was intended to run a monitor in the days before power management. I built a system for my wife and plugged a power board into that cable. One cold day she connected a 2.4kW heater to that power board. All she got in return was smoke.

  52. One slice toaster! by kawabago · · Score: 2, Funny

    And you can modify your old inkjet printer to spray butter!

    1. Re:One slice toaster! by PagosaSam · · Score: 1

      Or from the Amiga days, a Video Toaster and a Jelly Jet Printer!

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  53. A computer needs blinking lights by countertrolling · · Score: 1

    ...hundreds and thousands of blinking, beeping and flashing lights.. blinking and beeping and flashing.. they are flashing and they're beeping..I can't stand it anymore! They're blinking and beeping and flashing.. Why doesn't somebody pull the plug...?!

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  54. Ummm... by cptdondo · · Score: 1

    Fill'em with drives?

    /dev/md10 1,8T 1,5T 306G 84% /data10

    /dev/md20 2,7T 1,7T 1014G 63% /data20

    /dev/md21 1,8T 313G 1,4T 18% /data21

    Isn't that what they are for?

    1. Re:Ummm... by s4nt · · Score: 1

      I agree with this idea...
          --- Volume group ---
          VG Name data3
          VG Size 5.46 TiB
          PE Size 256.00 MiB
          Total PE 22356
          Alloc PE / Size 22128 / 5.40 TiB
          Free PE / Size 228 / 57.00 GiB

      (this is on RAID5)

  55. Mac Support by neoshroom · · Score: 1

    I find it strange that that thing says it supports OS X when I can't think of a single machine it would even fit in. The towers don't have 5.25" bays like that and the rest of the line doesn't have bays at all.

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    1. Re:Mac Support by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I have two machines in Lian Li cases similar to the one shown that run OS X. If you can't afford a Mac Pro, a Gigabyte motherboard, a Lian Li case and something like Kakewalk can get you a reasonable approximation.

  56. What? by dangitman · · Score: 0

    For many years now PC cases have included 3 or 4 or even more external 5.25 inch drive bays

    That doesn't sound very typical. How many cases actually come with external drive cases as standard? If you can't think of what to do with the external cases, then just buy a standard case that's just a case.

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    1. Re:What? by Ant+P. · · Score: 1

      That doesn't sound very typical.

      You've never seen a PC case with bays for CD/DVD-ROM drives on the front? That doesn't sound typical.

    2. Re:What? by dangitman · · Score: 0

      You've never seen a PC case with bays for CD/DVD-ROM drives on the front?

      Yes, but how are those external? Those are internal bays.

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    3. Re:What? by Tacvek · · Score: 1

      External as in external access. That is to distinguish them from the ancient 5.25 bays without external access used for really old hard-drives. Just as There are internal 3.5 bays, which are normally used for hard-drives, and also the external ones that 3.5 inch floppy drives used.

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    4. Re:What? by dangitman · · Score: 1

      External as in external access.

      So, if "external access" was meant, then why was that not said? "External" means that it is outside of the case.

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  57. I just ripped out the mobo from the PC by Khyber · · Score: 1

    Toss in a 12v LED panel and power it plus fans from the 12v lines. I have a nepenthes growing in the case, now, and the drive bay section holds all the wireless monitoring equipment.

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    1. Re:I just ripped out the mobo from the PC by Dashiva+Dan · · Score: 1

      Nepenthes ?!? wouldn't there be risk of spilt liquid? or how .. um.. this is a little boggling. More detail please?

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    2. Re:I just ripped out the mobo from the PC by Khyber · · Score: 1

      Nepenthes = carnivorous pitcher plant. No risk of spilled liquid because all electronics are above any potential water level.

      Will a picture be enough detail?

      http://imgur.com/e1TRO.jpg

      Computer case modified to run as a horticultural box.

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  58. Built-in Vaporizer? by billstewart · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Hey, your PC's generating too much heat anyway, might as well use it?

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  59. Cluster in a box.. by Bert64 · · Score: 1

    I thought it might be interesting to get a whole bunch of small ARM boards (eg the sheevaplug motherboard or similar), and mount loads of them inside a single case with a single power supply... I believe they use a 5V power supply, so a standard psu should be able to drive lots of them.

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    1. Re:Cluster in a box.. by jaymz666 · · Score: 1

      you could make a beowulf cluster of them

  60. Nixie Clock by Achra · · Score: 1

    How about using the power rails inside the case to generate high voltage and light obsolete neon display devices? http://www.illuwatar.se/project_pages/nixieclock2/muxnixie.htm

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    1. Re:Nixie Clock by NixieBunny · · Score: 1

      My brother did this as part of his IBM XT media center PC. He added a 4 digit clock in one full-height 5" bay.

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  61. Sound! by denmarkw00t · · Score: 1

    Back in the day we used to mount buttons in extra face plates. We would wire them to the hardware volume control pins on put soundblaters and then wire the others to the parallel port based on a schematic we found that would let us use the buttons to control WinAmp, launch applications etc... I know your question was perhaps more focused on the bay space ielf but don't forget Fun With Faceplates!

  62. stashbox by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Take an old CD drive, glue the faceplate to the tray, dremel out the tray and rip out the reader components. Find a small cardboard box to attach to the remaining ejected tray bit... and remove the button. Whenever you need to get at your secret stash, use a paperclip to activate the button...

  63. Toggle switch for dual boot by kortsen · · Score: 1

    I did this over a decade ago. I put a DPDT toggle switch in the drive bay cover and wired it to the DRIVE 1 and DRIVE 2 jumpers on a pair of MFM hard drives. With the flip of a switch I could boot into DOS or AIX. Back in the day, it required a pair of identical drives. But today the BIOS will auto-detect at boot so you could do it with the MASTER and SLAVE jumpers on IDE drives or get real creative and tap into the CSEL lines on the ribbon connector. Heck, I might try hot-wiring a rotary switch to the multiplier jumpers on a MOBO just so I can turn the processor speed up to 11.

  64. USB *FLASH* drives by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Fixed that for you.

  65. Partytron 5000 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Attach a small air pump to the power supply and write some kind of app that will blow air into one of those party noise makers, you know, the kind that shoots out and sounds like kazoo? Make it so that it goes off on start up and randomly throughout the day.

  66. Boom! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It contains the thermite incindiary that will fire if you give three wrong passwords.

  67. Drop the case by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Drop the case, get a smaller one. In my case, the computer is in the drawer which is part of the desk table, the server is in a cupboard. i got rid of those ugly cases, they serve no purpose anyways.. and cost money for nothing.. and have no chicks for free..

  68. How about 4x 2.5" hot swap SSD's up front? by AllynM · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I've been using one of these for over a year. Handy for having your OS on a 4x SSD RAID. Uses only one 5.25" bay:

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16816710003

    Be sure to get the beefier model (with the fans) if you want to use 4x VRaptors.

    Allyn Malventano
    Storage Editor, PC Perspective

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    1. Re:How about 4x 2.5" hot swap SSD's up front? by NevarMore · · Score: 1

      How much will that cost those of us that don't get free SSD drives "for reviews"?

  69. This space intentionally left blank by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    1. Re:This space intentionally left blank by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The coolest light modification I have seen lately is for the Computer Color Cannon which is a color changing HID LED light that plugs into a USB port and can be controlled via a software console and also has media player plugins to change the light to the beat of music, check out the youtube video and also website:

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jmUVlY4u-yA

      www.computercolorcannon.com

  70. Mac by nOw2 · · Score: 1

    After many years of just this sort of question [*] I though 'bugger it' and started buying Macs. iMacs, MacBooks, MBPs, and since Saturday I now have a Mac mini. No drive bays: I can just get on with writing code without worrying and wasting time and money on such things.

    The same likely applies to people who buy only laptops these days.

    [*] to which the answer is nearly always: more hard disks. Which just makes the problems worse when you reach 12 3.5" disks in an ATX case.

  71. You can put your w33d in there. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=muA5EBmpDhA

  72. Frontside USB/Audio adapter by xmorg · · Score: 1

    Unless you have an OEM PC that already has this, thats a good use. Its about a 19 dollar dohickey that fits right in that hole there and had usb audio and firewire.

  73. Donate them to me by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I have a Mac.

  74. You could grow medicine ;) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Grow Weed? http://www.pcgrowcase.com/flowerboxlst.htm

  75. Mobile Racks!!! by markdavis · · Score: 1

    I will tell you what I did with all MY extra bays:

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817998031

    Love it! Combine Linux with AHCI with these racks and have kewlness! Throw in any number of regular, cheap SATA 3.5" drives. Hotswap. Activity light. Create a software RAID (that is what I did, and it really works). Use it for removable backup that stores more than a USB drive and is much faster. Play around with different boot options.

    I put in four of those suckers. The 5th bay is my DVD drive. Oh- and the floppy bay? Do this:

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817998038

    And now I have dual hotswap 2.5 inch drives in the mix too!!

  76. Snakes on a backplane by CapOblivious2010 · · Score: 2, Funny

    Snakes on a backplane???

    (sorry, somebody had to say it!)

    1. Re:Snakes on a backplane by Blackbrain · · Score: 1

      Snakes on a backplane???

      I don't have any mod points, but that shit was funny right there. +1

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  77. Self destruct button by Scott+Swezey · · Score: 1

    My apologies if this was already posted.

    I suggest creating a self destruct button... Something along the lines of: http://hackaday.com/2008/09/16/how-to-thermite-based-hard-drive-anti-forensic-destruction/

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    1. Re:Self destruct button by Niksko · · Score: 1

      I have a feeling that idea came from the wonderful little show that rev3 produced during its infancy, The Broken. Back when Rev3 was tiny, they had The Broken which was Kevin Rose and Dan Huard doing stupid stuff with computers basically. In one episode their hacker friend Ramzi made a thermite based hard drive self destruct button on his laptop. It's a great show, so go watch it if you're in the mood. http://revision3.com/thebroken

    2. Re:Self destruct button by Scott+Swezey · · Score: 1

      I actually remember seeing that back when I was in high school. It was actually the inspiration for my comment, but I couldn't think of who made the video to post a link to them. Good find.

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  78. Automatic retractable cup holder by sprior · · Score: 3, Funny

    Oh wait, nevermind - got one already.

  79. Car audio equalizer/amp by Hamsterdan · · Score: 1

    Around 15 years ago I had a 7-band digital car equalizer/booster in my overclocked full-tower 486 (AMD 5x86 @160Mhz, 4*40, very nice CPU)

    It was *almost* a perfect fit, only had to dremel the case and the amp a little. It was powered from a MOLEX connector (using an homemade choke to filter out unwanted spikes and whine) then hooked up to the sound card and a set of 4 4ohm loudspeakers (no surround, just stereo though). At 120W RMS it kinda killed the original power supply while playing an intense mission in Tie Fighter :(

    (It was a half-din Radio-Crap digital EQ/amp, I think I might still have it somewhere in my locker)

    My modified 11W CB could probably be fitted in a 5.25 bay too, I just wouldn't know where to put my 102" whip antenna, I could ask my landlord If I could put it on the roof with a ground plate :p

    But, it might be a fun project for the week-end, I have an old InWin Q500 full-tower lying here doing nothing, and I'm pretty sure I still have my old Blaupunkt head-unit too (tape, Montreal model IIRC)

    Besides, I'm always looking for new excuses to use my Dremel :p

    Tape deck, EQ, and CB would take 3 bays, CD/DVD-ROM would take another, and I still would have one to spare (card reader or drive caddy)

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  80. Silent HDD coolers by Richard_J_N · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I only ever use the 5.25" bays, and find the 3.5" ones useless.

    For example:
      http://www.quietpc.com/gb-en-gbp/products/harddrivesolutions/smartdrive-neo
    takes a conventional 3.5" disk, and both cools and quietens it.

    The effect is quite dramatic: I cannot hear my PC at all.
    (I already put a silent CPU heatsink in, and a very-quiet PSU).

  81. Storage by asc99c · · Score: 2, Informative

    Perhaps not the most creative use, but it seems every single item I connect to my PC needs a different cable - mostly USB, but there are so many versions to choose from these days. Plus other stuff like headphones, a portable hard disc, spare batteries for cordless mouse etc. Generally I'd got a pile of bits and pieces centred around a desktop with 7 empty 5.25" bays.

    I've got a few of these: http://www.quietpc.com/gb-en-gbp/products/caseaccessories/kama-cabinet-abk - they're just little storage drawers, but they're helpful for organising all the bits that go with the PC.

  82. internal/ external by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    For many years now PC cases have included 3 or 4 or even more external 5.25 inch drive bays.

    Funny, I can only fit 2 external drive bays in my pc, But i have to rip out 3 or four of those pesky internal cages first!

  83. 12" sub controller by ksandom · · Score: 1

    Back in the mid 90's I made a controller than ran a couple of 12" subs off the computer's sound card. On the front I had a couple of volume controls and rows of LEDs to show the output visually.

    I've also got something a little special in the next series of funnyhacks which starts in September.

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    1. Re:12" sub controller by mr_mischief · · Score: 1

      in the mid '90s I was running stereo 5.1 encoded out of my sound card and into a receiver. The receiver ran 5.1 with 125 watts for each front, 110 center, and 110 each rear. The fronts were five-ways with 12" subs, 9" woofers, mids, mid-tweets, and tweeters. Then there was the 110-watt 10" self-powered sub with its own adjustable bandpass and volume in aircraft aluminum box with woodgrain black vinyl cover. Yeah, it's not quite as geeky as your setup, but I could throw a party with Modplug or DMP, and Heretic was just freaking spooky with those wizards breathing behind me.

  84. Schizophrenic Iguana by GarryFre · · Score: 1

    This reminds me of years ago when I had this system where I had like four big huge hard drives connected to my computer, that were too big to fit inside, so I left the cover off. A system only a geek could love. Well, there was this huge three foot iguana I had inherited that I made a roost for it by the computer. That was a mistake! It was calm much of the time but would suddenly and without any apparent reason would dart off like a rabbit to hide inside what qualified as the nearest hole which much to my chagrin ended up being the empty drive bays. So suddenly there's this huge monster frantically ripping a hole through the back of the computer ripping wires and chips like some crazed reverse alien being trying to get in instead of out! So I guess this might qualify as the most unique but impractical use of empty hard drive bays.

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  85. Re:Store User Guides, Manuals, Invoices, Warrantie by antdude · · Score: 1

    Isn't that a fire hazard when PC is on?

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  86. 3.5", not 5.25" by arashi+no+garou · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I wanted a simple way to connect an original Xbox controller to my rig to play emulated games, and I knew that the Xbox game port is electrically and logically a USB port. So, I pulled one of the two port harnesses out of a dead Xbox, wired the ports to pin header connectors, and plugged them into the USB headers on my motherboard. The system recognized the controllers I plugged in as USB gamepads, with the help of the Xbox drivers for OS X and Windows (Linux has native support).

    I found that the width of the gameport harness was a perfect fit for one of my two 3.5" bays, so I used a couple of self tapping screws to bolt them in place. Now, to use a gamepad I just open the drive door and plug it in. The most fun part for me was learning (via the OS X gamepad control panel) that the ABXY buttons can be switched to analog pressure control, just like the shoulder buttons. (Don't laugh, I'm not a regular Xbox player so I wasn't previously aware of this feature.)

  87. Fish Tank by EmagGeek · · Score: 1

    Lexan fish tank mounted to the case with bettas or other fish that don't want a huge space.

  88. Use for drive bay by Phopojijo · · Score: 1
  89. Networking stuff by drazaelb · · Score: 1

    A few years back, I noticed my DSL modem, router, network hub, etc. were around 5-6 inches wide. I figured if I could take the guts out and put the boards in custom enclosures, I could convert an old PC case to a mini rack mount, with a lot of the cables contained inside. Never came up with an enclosure solution I liked, though. Most of these devices are powered by wall warts that feed DC current, the challenge is picking devices that take 5 or 12V (there's a lot of stuff out there that wants 7 or 9V, although that can be done if you want to get creative).

  90. who makes nice, convenient 5 or 12v gbit switches? by plonk420 · · Score: 1

    ...since this IS Ask Slashdot ;)

  91. 2words by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Porta Pussy!

  92. Drugs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I have a 4-bay 1u rack-mount server that I use as a living room coffee table. Bays 1 and 2 contain a raid-1 boot volume, bay 3 contains rolling papers and tobacco, and bay 4 contains at least two kinds of pot, and also a lighter.

  93. Mac Mini by fotoguzzi · · Score: 1

    Should fit, right?

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  94. A Safe? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Years ago I used a bay in my full tower as a discreet safe. I put a removable HDD caddy wired up the power so that it looked real and removed the connector from the removable section. Lined the inside with foam to hold the objects I wished to keep hidden (mostly some special plant product that I don't use now). The lid just clipped on and off so no tools required to get into it. It also had a lock and key as standard so it was the perfect hiding place. Worked great.

  95. Drive Bay UPS by ledow · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Drive Bay UPS's aren't hard to come by. They only last for a few minutes normally but if it's something useful, practical and worthwhile.

  96. Beer Holder by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    A mate of mine removed all 4 bays and added a modified container, with door. He uses it to hold his beer whilst gaming. It's nearby and there is less chance of it spilling on keyboards etc. He's busy modifying it to see if he can add a refrigeration function to it

  97. Is that really worth $100? by ReekRend · · Score: 1

    Is that really worth $100?

  98. Re: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yo, dawg, I heard you like memes, so I put a meme in your meme so you can meme while you're meming.

  99. Leave them by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    http://seo.propertyinwisconsin.com
    We leave ours alone...

  100. Why a few minutes? by freaker_TuC · · Score: 1

    Without built-in inverter and an external battery pack an UPS could last for longer; this could fit between the power rails of the PSU.

    3 bays could fit a 12V battery without any problems; only safety might be an issue when overloading the UPS.

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  101. Practical use of the FufMe ... by freaker_TuC · · Score: 1

    I've got a PC with 9 bays, all filled with fufme's and cameras attached to "participate deep within social networking" ... ... Gives me an orgy of information!

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  102. Drive Bay Storage Drawers by The_Dougster · · Score: 1
    Scythe KC01 - PBK - 5 "Kama Cabinet" a drawer in a 5.25" bay

    Two of these drawers can hold some extra dvd's, flash drives, and whatnot. They are also rather stealthy.

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  103. Mice trap by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I've put a small ramp in front. Before I go to sleep I insert a little chunk of cheese. After I sleep I usually find a freshly roasted mice inside (don't sue me Intel!). My cat loves them fresh and crispy. It stinks a bit but if I don't wash my socks for a week it's hardly noticeable. I actually dry them in slot above the trap. Maybe I wouldn't need the chunk of cheese.

  104. iPod/iPhone/Android Dock and DC-DC adapters by w0mprat · · Score: 1

    I thought it would be nice to have a dock for my Android phone and for other portable devices. I started a project to empty the guts out of a 5.25 tray and make a slot formp3 players / Nexus One (or any Mini usb mobile or other device).

    Like most projects I started the list of possible features grew somewhat...

    Additional front USB ports (always useful)
    IEEE 1394
    eSATA port(s)
    Hot swappable SSD bay
    3.25" HDD sata dock
    Addtional ethernet - possible rip apart a multi-port hub and integrate it
    Various DC (5,12 and maybe 6 & 9v etc) adapters with a retractable cord.
    Molex connectors
    Fan headers
    DC->DC power supply for hobbies
    Single can peltier based beer cooler


    Also like many project I start, I collected a few parts then got distracted by something else geeky.

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  105. Kleenex box by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That's a no brainer. Stick a 4.5"x4.5" Kleenex box in the space three 5.25" drive bays. Mill new front cover and you're good do go for ... you know, that influenza season.

  106. Electric pencil sharpener by Buttonius · · Score: 1

    I'm still waiting for ThinkGeek (or a similar outfit) to start selling an electric pencil sharpener that fits in a standard drive slot of my PC and is powered from the PSU of the PC. Keeping the wood and graphite particles away from the innards of the computer may pose a problem.

  107. Underpowered? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Quite a long time ago I decided to upgrade my computer, I got all the parts on newegg, and when they arrived I noticed that my tiny 250w power supply would not work for all my new junk. So, I went to Good Will and picked up a computer with another 250w power supply for like 20 bucks and built it into the empty disk drives. Was pretty fun stuff, I had the motherboard and video card off of the main power supply and everything else off of the backup. Served as a pretty good way at keeping people from getting onto my computer, "Why is it not booting?" "The hell you breaking my computer for!?"

  108. Fill 'em up. by stonewolf · · Score: 1

    the task of cleaning out the closet where I've been dumping my old computers and parts came to the top of the infamous honey-do list. I found 8 40gig drives a couple of 30gig drives and a 20gig drive. After testing I had 6 working 30gig drives. I tore down the others just for grins and giggles and to pass around in some of my classes. Not to mention the magnets in the head positioning system are fun to play with.

    I also found an old mother board, 3 or 4 CDROM drives, RAM, a couple of power supplies and a very very old PC case. So, I built a PC. We call it Frankenputer. I got a working Athlon 1.5Ghz processor from the computer goodwill store and I lucked out and found some PCI IDE interface cards at the same place. (I had to update all the ROMs in the whole system to get it to work. Finding the BIOSes for a bunch of discontinued cards made by out of business companies was not as hard it sounds.) I had one set of rails for installing a 3.5 inch hard drive in a 5.25 bay. I found several more at computer Goodwill Computer store! I picked up a 30 dollar case at Fry's.

    Thanks to google, Goodwill, and freedos I got it all working. I used FreeDos and GParted to get all the disks configured and tested as a raid. Then, I installed Ubuntu using the "alternative" installation disk.

    Even though the drives were all "40GB" drives each manufacturers drives were of a different size. So, I created a partition the size of the smallest drive on each drive. Then in the extra space I created a partition of the size of the empty space on the next largest drive. The odd bits of space left at the end of two drives I just partitioned as their actual size. I used the 6 large partitions as a RAID 0, the second set became another RAID 0. The rest of the partitions just became normal drives.

    I stuck an old NVidia video card and a old but good network card in there and the thing actually works. It is an absurdly fast disk server.

    Every 3.5 inch bay has a drive in it. Every 5.25 inch drive bay has a drive in it.

    All the rest of the stuff in the closet went to Goodwill or the dump. Recently a new item went on my list... Move Frankenputer out of the living room. Oh well. And it looks so good on the book shelf :-) For some reason she wants me to move the table saw out of the living room too. Can't imagine why? Can you?

    Stonewolf