Good point. A 419 email is just as illegal in the U.S. and Nigeria as someone trying it over the phone. This guy's argument uses cases where the laws mesh (underage sex tours) in both countries as how the EuroNet would work, and cases where the laws differ (hate speech) as examples of the Bad U.S. Dominated Internet.
If someone from Europe called a white supremacist hotline in the U.S. (and they do) the European government would have as much success prosecuting as they would someone who hosted a web page, i.e. none.
So instead you can be at the whim of politicians in a whole lot of contries? Ok, let's say we have the "EuroNet" (c2002, me. Use it, give me money.)and a site in say, the UK, mirrors the Italian web site that was shut down for Blasphemy. What to do? Just about any site in the world could be considered illegal somewhere else. Or should we just block everything at national borders?
I think this argument becomes one-sided very quickly. The point that seems to get neglected is that people around the world buy the stuff. Don't forget EuroDisney was oringally an idea from the French government; they asked for it.
The article brought up two very different situations, and I think it confuses them. On one hand, you have people who are posting stuff (like childhood stories) and are complaining that people can find it. To them, too bad. robots.txt, you should expect stuff to be publicly available when you made it available to the public (duh) etc.
The second case is more problematic. These are people who are having records or whatever being placed on the web without their knowledge, information that can be used against them, perhaps illegally.
The hell with that, check out SpamGourmet a free service that allows you set up keyword based email adresses that will forward a set number of emails before eating them. This has changed my online life...
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Thruppence Ha'penny Farthing
I'm sorry, you were saying something about silly names for coins?
Um, who do you think the police are, the private sector? "restricting others from meddling with those fundamental freedoms" and "hand me a set of ideals and force me to comply" are frequently one and the same. Civil rights legistation protects people's fundamental freedoms, yet when enacted conflicted with many people's ideals, and forced them to comply.
For me, a couple of reasons: 1. Cost. As a college student who works full time and has a two-year-old in day care, I can afford only one decent computer, and that is my desktop. My Visor and Targus keyboard are nice and affordable. 2. Size. One less case to carry around. 3. Theft value. Campuses (Campi?) are notoriously high crime environments. These are harder to steal, and cheaper to replace if stolen.
Right, because before good fx, all movies made were wonders of great directing and stellar acting.
People bring out examples of older games that were great and say "See! They new how to make them back then!" What is forgotten is the reason these games are remembered is because they were good. For every "classic" game that is brought out, there were hundreds, if not thousands of pieces of crap. For every Forbidden Planet, there were things like "Bride of the Monster." Robert Wise was used the FX of his day, and so did Ed Wood, Jr.
Good movies and games will always exist and be created with the available technology, and they will always be surrounded by a sea of dreck.
We had a rather appropriate one in Chicago a while back. The local fox affiliate decided to replace one of the three daily Simpsons repeats with Third Rock (ugh). A web page was created for people to add their names; this list was mailed daily (!) to a number of executives at the station. Not only did they restore the show, but they aired ads for its reinstatement where the executive who made the decision is dragged off bound and gagged. A great day!
I guess I see way too much paper to be so enthusiastic. I'm the geek for the printing/scanning department, and we handle about 5-6 MPages out, 2.3 MPages in a year. When we went to an imaging system for incoming paper, we saved $70,000 by removing plans for reinforced floors for the short term storage area of our new building.
Every time I hear the phrase "paperless office" I have to laugh.
(By the way, the idea "that the US will forge closer ties with other nations" is fanciful; the US has gone so far out of its way to piss off every other nation on earth with its arrogance since the end of the Cold War that it can expect little help when it becomes just another one of the pack. What goes around comes around...)
Ok, let us take a look at some other historical powers, and their ability to piss off other nations, and how they are treated today:
Japan: Invaded almost all of East Asia (including China) committed horrible atrocities (Rape of Nanjing, unit 731)
Germany: Invaded Europe, Russia, killed millions.
What you seem to be ignoring is that economic necessity trumps historic issues. Even if the U.S. gets knocked out of the #1 position, #2 != "one of the pack."
The reason why the success rate for the Atlas IV is close to zero is that there never was an Atlas IV. Perhaps you are thinking of the Titan IV? The Titan IV has been very successful, with an over 95% success rate, with 33 launches.
The Atlas III was originally called the IIAR, but with the NPO Energomash RD-180 engine, they decided to give it a new name entirely.
Well, gone to the moon, for one thing. The Soviets listing of space records is nothing to sneeze at, and it was the pressure to best them. I'm a big fan of the U.S. space program, but let's give credit where it is due.
The thought of being in a pressurized can several miles above the earth with an unknown number of untrained, freaked out, trigger happy yahoos with guns freaks me out. You might want to see someone about that hoplophobia [usask.ca] of yours.
Hi, thanks for that assumption. I wonder if it will bother you to know that I am in fact a happy owner of several handguns, with a carry permit? I know many trained, responsible, calm firearm owners. These are not the people I'm talking about. I'm talking about the "I didn't know it was loaded" type. I have also known a number of this type of gun owner, and a number of them had permits from shall issue states. Would you want these people armed in a plane?
Nope, from now on I want to fly the Unfriendly Skies. And if somebody tries to take my plane, we'll all have our own knives and guns aboard to stop them in their tracks. Who's with me?
Not me, thank you. The thought of being in a pressurized can several miles above the earth with an unknown number of untrained, freaked out, trigger happy yahoos with guns freaks me out. If this happened we would have more planes falling out of the skies than even Osama dreams.
Mechs are great for satisfying the psychological exoskeletal defense needs of geeks, but are amazingly ill-suited (no pun intended) as military vehicles as opposed to tanks. The mech has a very high profile, meaning that it is going to be a big fat target for every weapon withing range; your low squat tank, especially hull down, is going to be a lot harder to see and to hit. Another problem with mechs is ground pressure; your mech isn't going to be very useful when it is stuck in the mud.
IANAL, but that alone would not be sufficient for probable cause. If you were arrested, that information could possibly be used for determining intent, perhaps, but you generally still have to have committed the crime in order to be arrested.
No way! Meet the Feebles is hysterical. One over the top disgust fest after another. A real test of stamina.
For those who haven't seen it, Meet the Feebles is Peter Jackson's take on what backstage of the Muppet show filtered through such movies as The Deer Hunter, Boogie Nights, Requim for a Dream, Scarface... and furter pits of depravity that before had not been seen on film.
Bin Laden is not an American Creation; he might have received training in Afghanistan, but that was after he took his millions to fight the Soviets. I am aware that CIA training can be horrific (the School of the Americas torture manual, for instance) but I find it hard to believe we trained him convince people to fly planes full of innocent people into large buildings.
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Good point. A 419 email is just as illegal in the U.S. and Nigeria as someone trying it over the phone. This guy's argument uses cases where the laws mesh (underage sex tours) in both countries as how the EuroNet would work, and cases where the laws differ (hate speech) as examples of the Bad U.S. Dominated Internet.
If someone from Europe called a white supremacist hotline in the U.S. (and they do) the European government would have as much success prosecuting as they would someone who hosted a web page, i.e. none.
So instead you can be at the whim of politicians in a whole lot of contries? Ok, let's say we have the "EuroNet" (c2002, me. Use it, give me money.)and a site in say, the UK, mirrors the Italian web site that was shut down for Blasphemy. What to do? Just about any site in the world could be considered illegal somewhere else. Or should we just block everything at national borders?
I think this argument becomes one-sided very quickly. The point that seems to get neglected is that people around the world buy the stuff. Don't forget EuroDisney was oringally an idea from the French government; they asked for it.
The article brought up two very different situations, and I think it confuses them. On one hand, you have people who are posting stuff (like childhood stories) and are complaining that people can find it. To them, too bad. robots.txt, you should expect stuff to be publicly available when you made it available to the public (duh) etc.
The second case is more problematic. These are people who are having records or whatever being placed on the web without their knowledge, information that can be used against them, perhaps illegally.
I haven't really celebrated S-Day since it has become so commercialized.
The hell with that, check out SpamGourmet a free service that allows you set up keyword based email adresses that will forward a set number of emails before eating them. This has changed my online life...
Thruppence
Ha'penny
Farthing
I'm sorry, you were saying something about silly names for coins?
Um, who do you think the police are, the private sector? "restricting others from meddling with those fundamental freedoms" and "hand me a set of ideals and force me to comply" are frequently one and the same. Civil rights legistation protects people's fundamental freedoms, yet when enacted conflicted with many people's ideals, and forced them to comply.
For me, a couple of reasons:
1. Cost. As a college student who works full time and has a two-year-old in day care, I can afford only one decent computer, and that is my desktop. My Visor and Targus keyboard are nice and affordable.
2. Size. One less case to carry around.
3. Theft value. Campuses (Campi?) are notoriously high crime environments. These are harder to steal, and cheaper to replace if stolen.
Right, because before good fx, all movies made were wonders of great directing and stellar acting.
People bring out examples of older games that were great and say "See! They new how to make them back then!" What is forgotten is the reason these games are remembered is because they were good. For every "classic" game that is brought out, there were hundreds, if not thousands of pieces of crap. For every Forbidden Planet, there were things like "Bride of the Monster." Robert Wise was used the FX of his day, and so did Ed Wood, Jr.
Good movies and games will always exist and be created with the available technology, and they will always be surrounded by a sea of dreck.
We had a rather appropriate one in Chicago a while back. The local fox affiliate decided to replace one of the three daily Simpsons repeats with Third Rock (ugh). A web page was created for people to add their names; this list was mailed daily (!) to a number of executives at the station. Not only did they restore the show, but they aired ads for its reinstatement where the executive who made the decision is dragged off bound and gagged. A great day!
I guess I see way too much paper to be so enthusiastic. I'm the geek for the printing/scanning department, and we handle about 5-6 MPages out, 2.3 MPages in a year. When we went to an imaging system for incoming paper, we saved $70,000 by removing plans for reinforced floors for the short term storage area of our new building.
Every time I hear the phrase "paperless office" I have to laugh.
(By the way, the idea "that the US will forge closer ties with other nations" is fanciful; the US has gone so far out of its way to piss off every other nation on earth with its arrogance since the end of the Cold War that it can expect little help when it becomes just another one of the pack. What goes around comes around...)
Ok, let us take a look at some other historical powers, and their ability to piss off other nations, and how they are treated today:
Japan: Invaded almost all of East Asia (including China) committed horrible atrocities (Rape of Nanjing, unit 731)
Germany: Invaded Europe, Russia, killed millions.
What you seem to be ignoring is that economic necessity trumps historic issues. Even if the U.S. gets knocked out of the #1 position, #2 != "one of the pack."
The reason why the success rate for the Atlas IV is close to zero is that there never was an Atlas IV. Perhaps you are thinking of the Titan IV? The Titan IV has been very successful, with an over 95% success rate, with 33 launches.
The Atlas III was originally called the IIAR, but with the NPO Energomash RD-180 engine, they decided to give it a new name entirely.
Well, gone to the moon, for one thing. The Soviets listing of space records is nothing to sneeze at, and it was the pressure to best them. I'm a big fan of the U.S. space program, but let's give credit where it is due.
The thought of being in a pressurized can several miles above the earth with an unknown number of untrained, freaked out, trigger happy yahoos with guns freaks me out.
You might want to see someone about that hoplophobia [usask.ca] of yours.
Hi, thanks for that assumption. I wonder if it will bother you to know that I am in fact a happy owner of several handguns, with a carry permit? I know many trained, responsible, calm firearm owners. These are not the people I'm talking about. I'm talking about the "I didn't know it was loaded" type. I have also known a number of this type of gun owner, and a number of them had permits from shall issue states. Would you want these people armed in a plane?
Nope, from now on I want to fly the Unfriendly Skies. And if somebody tries to take my plane, we'll all have our own knives and guns aboard to stop them in their tracks. Who's with me?
Not me, thank you. The thought of being in a pressurized can several miles above the earth with an unknown number of untrained, freaked out, trigger happy yahoos with guns freaks me out. If this happened we would have more planes falling out of the skies than even Osama dreams.
Chlorine was the first gas used in WWI (Ypres, 1915) Mustard gas and other more effective agents (phosgene) were used later.
Mechs are great for satisfying the psychological exoskeletal defense needs of geeks, but are amazingly ill-suited (no pun intended) as military vehicles as opposed to tanks. The mech has a very high profile, meaning that it is going to be a big fat target for every weapon withing range; your low squat tank, especially hull down, is going to be a lot harder to see and to hit. Another problem with mechs is ground pressure; your mech isn't going to be very useful when it is stuck in the mud.
IANAL, but that alone would not be sufficient for probable cause. If you were arrested, that information could possibly be used for determining intent, perhaps, but you generally still have to have committed the crime in order to be arrested.
That last bit should have been "...looking for information on narcotics is _not_ illegal
At this point, "looking" for warez is not illegal; using them is, just like looking for information on narcotics is illegal.
No way! Meet the Feebles is hysterical. One over the top disgust fest after another. A real test of stamina.
For those who haven't seen it, Meet the Feebles is Peter Jackson's take on what backstage of the Muppet show filtered through such movies as The Deer Hunter, Boogie Nights, Requim for a Dream, Scarface... and furter pits of depravity that before had not been seen on film.
At cruising altitude, the phones probably wouldn't work; but the planes were flying close to the ground...
Bin Laden is not an American Creation; he might have received training in Afghanistan, but that was after he took his millions to fight the Soviets. I am aware that CIA training can be horrific (the School of the Americas torture manual, for instance) but I find it hard to believe we trained him convince people to fly planes full of innocent people into large buildings.