Did you really expect a web based service to persist indefinitely? Instead of being bought out and shut down by Apple with the offer of iTMS credits they could have just gone under on their own and left you with nothing.
But the new PS3s don't have Other OS, which is apparently essential to using a PS3. So if they were 'happily' turning in their old Other OS capable PS3s Other OS must not be that big of a deal other than a shot at refund money.
I may be underestimating the number of people who bought a $300+ console solely because of being able to run Linux but I think the more likely scenario is that not many people (the world is bigger than/.) cared about Other OS enough to make it a major reason for buying it. The change in total sales probably wouldn't have been large enough to make the last digit change by one in however many decimal places they track out to.
And now they've got this little used feature poised to cost them real money. Basically, don't expect to see any other console maker make this mistake again by including this sort of capability.
You know what lesson it will teach Sony and every other console maker? To make everything but the barebones ability to play games (that require no network connection) an option not included included with purchase of the base unit. Sure, they might offer free unlocks for some abilities but those won't be on or in the packaging of the console itself.
Not all carbs are created equal. Modern white flour is basically empty calories. To get the long shelf life all the portions of the wheat that have actual nutrition are processed out. Whole berry flour is good for only about a week or so. (Now, to be fair, processed flour does have its uses. Whole berry flour makes for a very dense bread generally as it doesn't have a high enough percentage of gluten to rise well, so processed flour can help bring that up to the right amount when mixed in.)
Let the grain start to sprout and then you've got something rather different from an unsprouted wheat berry nutritionally. Starches are converted into sugars and vitamins that aren't present in the unsprouted berry are created during the sprouting process.
So basically all the good parts of the grain are stripped out in modern processed food, all you are left with is the 'bad' carbs. Our processing methods are to blame, not grain and carbs. We have decided that shelf life and cost are more important than nutrition.
And it's not the energy density of the meat itself, it is the energy density of the land used to produce the wild game animals that supply that meat. A city would have needed an insanely massive hunting ground to sustain itself solely by hunting game animals. Grains and agriculture packed much more food energy into a smaller plot of land, which is necessary when you go from the population density of a hunter-gatherer tribe to a that of a city.
Hey now, carb bashing is almost as cool as Apple bashing.
Never mind that since the dawn of civilization man has been surviving on a primarily carb based diet and that the 'outbreak' of obesity is a rather recent occurrence.
Sure high carb, high fat, low exercise lifestyles may have something to do with the problem, but you see, that still includes carbs. Just ignore the other bits and bash away.
But, see, they're getting paid to go beyond normal human limits. Getting paid means they automagically become uber mensch and are thus beyond the reach of distraction and fatigue that afflict us normal humans.
Everyone knows money is the ultimate reality distortion field. Throw enough money at someone and you can require them to do anything and they better do it, otherwise you wouldn't have thrown all that money at them.
Americans would actually have to leave the country to run into this.
Been to Europe, had to carry my passport all the time. Also got to see guards at airports (and borders) with both fully automatic weapons and the ammo for said weapons, unlike US airports where we just had troops with empty M16s to make us feel safer.
It will be a small comfort to me, when consumer devices are only shipped with burned in ROM with sealed circuitry, to know that people like you got just what you were asking for.
"Geohot was doing something with his console, which he acquired legally."
And then released the hack into the wild.
Hmm, I wonder which step Sony cares about more. That one (1) guy figured out how to hack their system or that it is now no longer just one (1) guy that can do it since he put the hack up for download.
Ya... I'm sure all those "developers" that were cranking out the copy/paste "collection" apps were very thorough in checking the credentials of everyone in the pictures they appropriated.
Where were iPhone users supposed to get their apps before the app store? Would it happen to be the internet via Safari? Yes, yes it was. What can you still find on the internet with Safari? Websites that behave like apps. Does Apple control these web apps? No, no they don't.
"It's about making sure people can't develop any apps or consume any content that will compete with what you can buy in the App store." So your assertion is a bit off since there does exist some 'apps' and content that compete with the app store and other "Jobs Approved" content that Apple doesn't seem to care much about.
If that is the case I'm surprised Apple hasn't noticed that every iPod and iPhone seems to have this 'Safari' app on it. Connects to this "internet" thing that you can interact with.
Playboy probably has records that all of the models/actors appearing in its content are of legal age and has a vested self interest that their publications abide by the law lest the company face legal and financial repercussions.
Joe and Bob's "barely legal" porn app probably can't prove the models were on the legal side of 18. When the authorities come knocking for distributing underage porn I doubt they'd find Joe or Bob, who are now the Bill and Gary Porn Co and still cranking out apps of questionable legality.
Volcanoes have nothing to do with global warming. It was all the cavemen driving around in the massive dinosaur guzzling SUVs that ended the last ice age. Everyone knows that.
Everyone thinks the installment plan is cheaper but they don't read the fine print. Pay as you go will save you money and will get you a much better product.
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Even the Zune plays AAC, and I don't think the Zune is part of Apple's "walled garden".
Did you really expect a web based service to persist indefinitely? Instead of being bought out and shut down by Apple with the offer of iTMS credits they could have just gone under on their own and left you with nothing.
But the new PS3s don't have Other OS, which is apparently essential to using a PS3. So if they were 'happily' turning in their old Other OS capable PS3s Other OS must not be that big of a deal other than a shot at refund money.
I may be underestimating the number of people who bought a $300+ console solely because of being able to run Linux but I think the more likely scenario is that not many people (the world is bigger than /.) cared about Other OS enough to make it a major reason for buying it. The change in total sales probably wouldn't have been large enough to make the last digit change by one in however many decimal places they track out to.
And now they've got this little used feature poised to cost them real money. Basically, don't expect to see any other console maker make this mistake again by including this sort of capability.
"It will teach Sony a lesson too."
You know what lesson it will teach Sony and every other console maker? To make everything but the barebones ability to play games (that require no network connection) an option not included included with purchase of the base unit. Sure, they might offer free unlocks for some abilities but those won't be on or in the packaging of the console itself.
Not all carbs are created equal. Modern white flour is basically empty calories. To get the long shelf life all the portions of the wheat that have actual nutrition are processed out. Whole berry flour is good for only about a week or so. (Now, to be fair, processed flour does have its uses. Whole berry flour makes for a very dense bread generally as it doesn't have a high enough percentage of gluten to rise well, so processed flour can help bring that up to the right amount when mixed in.)
Let the grain start to sprout and then you've got something rather different from an unsprouted wheat berry nutritionally. Starches are converted into sugars and vitamins that aren't present in the unsprouted berry are created during the sprouting process.
So basically all the good parts of the grain are stripped out in modern processed food, all you are left with is the 'bad' carbs. Our processing methods are to blame, not grain and carbs. We have decided that shelf life and cost are more important than nutrition.
And it's not the energy density of the meat itself, it is the energy density of the land used to produce the wild game animals that supply that meat. A city would have needed an insanely massive hunting ground to sustain itself solely by hunting game animals. Grains and agriculture packed much more food energy into a smaller plot of land, which is necessary when you go from the population density of a hunter-gatherer tribe to a that of a city.
I didn't say dawn of man, I said dawn of civilization.
Hunted meat doesn't have the energy density by land area to support a city, that takes grains and agriculture.
Hey now, carb bashing is almost as cool as Apple bashing.
Never mind that since the dawn of civilization man has been surviving on a primarily carb based diet and that the 'outbreak' of obesity is a rather recent occurrence.
Sure high carb, high fat, low exercise lifestyles may have something to do with the problem, but you see, that still includes carbs. Just ignore the other bits and bash away.
But, see, they're getting paid to go beyond normal human limits. Getting paid means they automagically become uber mensch and are thus beyond the reach of distraction and fatigue that afflict us normal humans.
Everyone knows money is the ultimate reality distortion field. Throw enough money at someone and you can require them to do anything and they better do it, otherwise you wouldn't have thrown all that money at them.
Americans would actually have to leave the country to run into this.
Been to Europe, had to carry my passport all the time. Also got to see guards at airports (and borders) with both fully automatic weapons and the ammo for said weapons, unlike US airports where we just had troops with empty M16s to make us feel safer.
Nice house you had there. Too bad you abandoned it to go to work. And leaving your car abandoned out in that parking lot...
Not having to have an armed militia to defend your property in your absence is considered moving forward in regards to civilization.
What's that you say? We need more power plants to meet demand? Well Mr., NOT IN MY BACKYARD.
NIMBYs won't let you build new plants you have to start dialing back consumption.
It will be a small comfort to me, when consumer devices are only shipped with burned in ROM with sealed circuitry, to know that people like you got just what you were asking for.
I seem to recall Geohot's blog mentioning giving out the hack "on a silver platter" and contained in one handy zip file.
"Geohot was doing something with his console, which he acquired legally."
And then released the hack into the wild.
Hmm, I wonder which step Sony cares about more. That one (1) guy figured out how to hack their system or that it is now no longer just one (1) guy that can do it since he put the hack up for download.
Ya... I'm sure all those "developers" that were cranking out the copy/paste "collection" apps were very thorough in checking the credentials of everyone in the pictures they appropriated.
Where were iPhone users supposed to get their apps before the app store? Would it happen to be the internet via Safari? Yes, yes it was. What can you still find on the internet with Safari? Websites that behave like apps. Does Apple control these web apps? No, no they don't.
"It's about making sure people can't develop any apps or consume any content that will compete with what you can buy in the App store." So your assertion is a bit off since there does exist some 'apps' and content that compete with the app store and other "Jobs Approved" content that Apple doesn't seem to care much about.
If that is the case I'm surprised Apple hasn't noticed that every iPod and iPhone seems to have this 'Safari' app on it. Connects to this "internet" thing that you can interact with.
Playboy probably has records that all of the models/actors appearing in its content are of legal age and has a vested self interest that their publications abide by the law lest the company face legal and financial repercussions.
Joe and Bob's "barely legal" porn app probably can't prove the models were on the legal side of 18. When the authorities come knocking for distributing underage porn I doubt they'd find Joe or Bob, who are now the Bill and Gary Porn Co and still cranking out apps of questionable legality.
Jesus weeps for your spelling.
I'm surprised that the extremists don't know that every "Teddy" bear is actually a "Mohammed in a Bear Suit" doll.
Volcanoes have nothing to do with global warming. It was all the cavemen driving around in the massive dinosaur guzzling SUVs that ended the last ice age. Everyone knows that.
But we need all the Apple articles so that we can get our daily quota of Apple hating in.
Hating Apple is the hip thing to do these days and just think if /. wasn't seen hating on Apple for a hour or two what would happen to its geek cred.
The device is yours but the services are still theirs.
If they don't want out of spec devices using their services and you want to use their services perhaps you shouldn't take your device out of spec.
Everyone thinks the installment plan is cheaper but they don't read the fine print. Pay as you go will save you money and will get you a much better product.