I tried the KDE4.2 Windows install the other day specifically because I want to be able to run Amarok on both Win and Linux platforms. Unfortunately Amarok crashes with an error immediately after startup, so for this user KDE for windows is worthless (for now).
You only read it as racist because of the context within this thread... if somebody just saw a t-shirt out on the street that said "I am what I am because of how apes behave" they'd probably interpret it as being about evolution and a rejection of creationism.
Basically, on the whole, people who use warez are a lot more aware of the "dark side" and take more precautions than upright citizens.
Really? My 11-year-old nephew doesn't seem particularly aware of anything at all. Neither does my brother whose PC is loaded full of all kinds of software he never even uses but still feels compelled to install because he gets it for "free." They also plug their machines directly into broadband with no router or firewall of any kind.
That said, I would have no problems in creating non-brained clones, pending some final confirmation that the brain is really "everything that matters". This confirmation is a religious or philosophical problem, to which I see no solution.
Correct me if I am misinterpreting, but it seems you are saying you will forever have a problem creating brainless clones since there is no way to ever get the final confirmation you need.
...but the question of how we would treat sub-humans will have to wait until we actually figure out how to make them.
Let's not get ahead of ourselves. Hell, we're still dealing with how people should treat other actual humans.
Ironically, by treating said humans like sub-humans.
Just imagine if the Avro Arrow program hadn't been cancelled (and documentation destroyed and all the prototypes cut up with a torch) back in the '50s. Canada could have been a global player in the aerospace industry.
The point is you don't need to have a population that is astoundingly wedded to the idea of spreading out across the stars. You need a tiny, tiny fraction of the population to be wedded to the idea - just a handful of pioneering types who are okay with being placed in stasis for a few centuries, or raising their children and grandchildren inside a giant hollow cylinder. If you can find 500 people every few years who are willing to do something like the above, you will eventually become a pan-galactic civilization.
other alien races are as leery of sending out giant seedships that they themselves can't ride in as we are
I don't think humans are particularly leery of the idea of getting on a starship. And even if 99% of humans have no interest in getting on a starship, that leaves ~70 million perfectly willing volunteers. Give it another few hundred years of technological advancement and we'll be able to contemplate something large enough to be a "generation ship", or place the travellers in suspended animation, or some other trick to make the lengthy trip survivable.
It's disappointing that those who do respond to spam emails (twice or so...) don't get taken out of the gene pool either:(
I'm surprised this has never happened to people buying from pill spammers. Think about it: there are thousands and thousands of people ingesting pills purchased from anonymous untraceable strangers with probable ties to organized crime. I'm amazed Al Quaeda or some similar group hasn't clued in to this one yet.
There are advantages to thinking of (and addressing) spam as a social problem rather than a technological problem. For starters, treating it as a technological problem leads to an arms race mentality in which spammers are continually driven to "outsmart" technological safeguards as they are developed.
Personally, I have no problem with an approach in which "purchasers" (in other words, anybody who responds to spam in any way) are exposed and educated by any means necessary... with education consisting of an escalating series of measures until the recipients finally comprehend just how fucking stupid their actions were.
You know, slashdot really should consider implementing the blink and marquee tags here in the comments... it would really spice things up dontcha think?
Come to think of it, it would be poetic if all the EU member states rewrote every single one of their government web pages in order to make them all 100% XHTML 1.0 Strict... every government service, every government program, every application form, every information page, hopelessly inaccessible unless you are using a browser that actually renders properly.
Never mind forcing MS to bundle a different browser. Force them to follow standards.
Seeing IE's market share drop is always nice for clueful web devs.
Fixed that for you.
I know plenty of web developers who create horrible, broken pages because they render nicely on IE. When I say something along the lines of "you're not even close to being XHTML complaint" they respond with something along the lines of "I hate Firefox! I can never get my layouts to look nice."
Are they sure this isn't Bobby Lee (as "woman of indeterminate asian origin") just doing an elaborate and lengthy prank?
From windows.kde.org:
13th January 2009 KDE 4.2 RC for Windows available
28th January 2009 KDE 4.2.0 for Windows available
Though to be fair, that page also states "KDE on Windows is not in the final state, so applications can be unsuitable for day to day use yet."
I tried the KDE4.2 Windows install the other day specifically because I want to be able to run Amarok on both Win and Linux platforms. Unfortunately Amarok crashes with an error immediately after startup, so for this user KDE for windows is worthless (for now).
You only read it as racist because of the context within this thread ... if somebody just saw a t-shirt out on the street that said "I am what I am because of how apes behave" they'd probably interpret it as being about evolution and a rejection of creationism.
Basically, on the whole, people who use warez are a lot more aware of the "dark side" and take more precautions than upright citizens.
Really? My 11-year-old nephew doesn't seem particularly aware of anything at all. Neither does my brother whose PC is loaded full of all kinds of software he never even uses but still feels compelled to install because he gets it for "free." They also plug their machines directly into broadband with no router or firewall of any kind.
That said, I would have no problems in creating non-brained clones, pending some final confirmation that the brain is really "everything that matters". This confirmation is a religious or philosophical problem, to which I see no solution.
Correct me if I am misinterpreting, but it seems you are saying you will forever have a problem creating brainless clones since there is no way to ever get the final confirmation you need.
Hell, just make it a torso with no head or limbs. Just a nutrient intake tube and waste output tube.
I don't know about anyone else, but just the thought of this strikes me as fundamentally wrong and evil.
Let's not get ahead of ourselves. Hell, we're still dealing with how people should treat other actual humans.
Ironically, by treating said humans like sub-humans.
Just imagine if the Avro Arrow program hadn't been cancelled (and documentation destroyed and all the prototypes cut up with a torch) back in the '50s. Canada could have been a global player in the aerospace industry.
They are sending spam to the US, so our laws would apply. The crime is happening on this end.
We'd have a hard time getting spammers extradited, but our laws would apply if they ever took a vacation or whatever.
The point is you don't need to have a population that is astoundingly wedded to the idea of spreading out across the stars. You need a tiny, tiny fraction of the population to be wedded to the idea - just a handful of pioneering types who are okay with being placed in stasis for a few centuries, or raising their children and grandchildren inside a giant hollow cylinder. If you can find 500 people every few years who are willing to do something like the above, you will eventually become a pan-galactic civilization.
other alien races are as leery of sending out giant seedships that they themselves can't ride in as we are
I don't think humans are particularly leery of the idea of getting on a starship. And even if 99% of humans have no interest in getting on a starship, that leaves ~70 million perfectly willing volunteers. Give it another few hundred years of technological advancement and we'll be able to contemplate something large enough to be a "generation ship", or place the travellers in suspended animation, or some other trick to make the lengthy trip survivable.
Much better is to follow the money trail-- the spammers have to have a way to make money. Follow that trail.
Okay, I followed it to Russia. Now what?
Now that's what I call a stimulus package!
It's disappointing that those who do respond to spam emails (twice or so...) don't get taken out of the gene pool either :(
I'm surprised this has never happened to people buying from pill spammers. Think about it: there are thousands and thousands of people ingesting pills purchased from anonymous untraceable strangers with probable ties to organized crime. I'm amazed Al Quaeda or some similar group hasn't clued in to this one yet.
They could lower regular taxes by creating this stupidity tax.
Where do I sign the petition?
There are advantages to thinking of (and addressing) spam as a social problem rather than a technological problem. For starters, treating it as a technological problem leads to an arms race mentality in which spammers are continually driven to "outsmart" technological safeguards as they are developed.
Personally, I have no problem with an approach in which "purchasers" (in other words, anybody who responds to spam in any way) are exposed and educated by any means necessary ... with education consisting of an escalating series of measures until the recipients finally comprehend just how fucking stupid their actions were.
If I format one of these with ReiserFS, am I still okay to take it through airport security?
XHTML-compliant content can be repurposed much more easily than content that's all tangled up with formatting and other code.
You know, slashdot really should consider implementing the blink and marquee tags here in the comments ... it would really spice things up dontcha think?
"gui interface using visual basic"
In case you were wondering, that happened in CSI NY recently. Truly cringe-worthy.
I've considered the entire CSI franchise to be cringe-worthy right from the outset.
did this incident actually happen?
I tried searching Google
Did you check to see if Netcraft confirms it?
Come to think of it, it would be poetic if all the EU member states rewrote every single one of their government web pages in order to make them all 100% XHTML 1.0 Strict ... every government service, every government program, every application form, every information page, hopelessly inaccessible unless you are using a browser that actually renders properly.
Never mind forcing MS to bundle a different browser. Force them to follow standards.
And a couple of years down the line you'd find that 70% of users would be browsing the net with this "restricted simple browser".
Oh what a glorious thought!
Seeing IE's market share drop is always nice for clueful web devs.
Fixed that for you.
I know plenty of web developers who create horrible, broken pages because they render nicely on IE. When I say something along the lines of "you're not even close to being XHTML complaint" they respond with something along the lines of "I hate Firefox! I can never get my layouts to look nice."