I grew up on a farm, we never had to wear helmets even when on the motor bikes, I mostly wore one seeing it was bought for me, I never had a serious accident and nothing that a helmet would have protected me against.
Eventually I moved to the city and ended up riding through northern and central Sydney. I was always quite conservative and always wore a helmet and a UV vest. Mainly wore a helmet to avoid the fine of not wearing one.
I made a dash through a an amber light, the bus driver coming the other way turning right didn't see me and clipped me. I went down pretty quick. I remember thinking this is really going to suck slamming my head into the road... Oh the sweet, sweet feeling of having your head slam into the ground wearing a helmet. There is no better feeling in the world!!! I then jumped up, got off the road and started patting things down to see what was broken/bleeding. A slightly grazed cheek, knee and hand, no concussion and back riding to work in 10 mins. Someone saw it all, chased down the bus and we exchanged details, hence why it took 10 mins to go back riding.
I really like our mandatory helmet laws. I don't care so much for our our healthcare and compulsory third party car insurance... yet
The species, which has not been identified by local experts or the indigenous population, is roughly the size of a domestic cat and is believed to be carnivorous.
Already heard that one.... can't prove god doesn't exist or does exist therefore seeing the bibile tells us so he must exist... the book, written by men.. for men to believe in. Nice try...
Okay.. then... Superman, Santa Claus may exist too... along with the Devil ("...the best trick the devil pulled off was convincing people he didn't exist!" really bored with that quote), Jesus and Hanaman the magical white monkey...
Put Simply... there is no God, no Heaven, no Hell, no Devil, no reincarnation, no magic...
These figures/beliefs were created by the same creatures who believe and idolise them, i.e. humans. In our existance (this world, universe) there are things that occur in this world that we cannot yet explain, this can make us feel somewhat insignificant and futile in our existance. It raises such questions as
Why am I here?
What is my purpose?
What will happen to me when I no longer exist?
What will be the consequences of my actions in this life?
This can somewhat be related to the need to believe in something!! (put simply in one aspect). Humans also feel compelled to hold morals and respect for others. Some(most) of us naturally become upset when people are treated unfairly(+many synonyms). Religion has been designed and evolved to accomodate and somewhat enforce this. E.g. don't kill, don't steal, don't cheat people, don't kill animals, don't eat meat, don't be greedy etc. Someone could probably better explain this need better than I can but be seen to be present in every culture with certain themes current through out.
Here are some other characters that I have believed in over my life (especially as a child) that were created by man
Santa Claus
The Tooth fairy
The Easter bunny
Superman
The Teeenage Mutant Ninja Turtles
Monkey Magic
Jesus
I was told by an enlightened Christian friend in the past that I would be going to hell after I died due to me not accepting God and Jesus... at the time I didn't ask her what the consequences were for no longer believing in the other characters, I wonder what the consequences would be?
Hey everyone, the bible shouldn't be taken literally!!
Having been brought up and influenced by the Christian church for the first 17 1/2 years of my life I am now a devote Atheist. 2 years at a Catholic school for my final schooling did it for me. My parents still got to church.. more for a social occassion though as they are farmers and live in a small aging community.
Just like any religious text that has been passed down through the ages the messages behind the text rather the literal meaning of the texts what should be taken from them. Only being exposed to a Christian bible initially I still got this impression (stories of a basket of fish and bread feeding 2000, a guy being swallowed by a whale, 18000 specises of animal on an Ark, a burning bush?? BS) though this was reinfored when I saw a ballet of the Ramayana. This is a Hindu religious book which mentions a story of prince getting help from a white monkey, Hanaman to get his wife back... I think, spelling excused. The Gist was, you treat people like shit, it's going to come back on you, now behave! Now if people who took the bible literally were exposed to such a story maybe they'd take the bible a little less literally... though Christianity has had certain constructs added to it over the years to make it difficult to come to terms with this, e.g. don't worship false idols/gods, being the only religion etc. Quoting Mr T "I pitty the fool"+who has been taught Christianity... though most other modern religions are just as bad...
Have you tried: "stop browsing porn sites all day long" "don't click on advertisements offering things for free just as soon as you download their program" "Installing firefox?"
And just to be a Slashdot user "Install Linux/MacOSX"
"... unfortunately this urgency of this new release drew resources away from the web team and they were left with a pentium 166 to host the web site..."
Well done to the transgamming guys. Hopefully then can step up to where loki left off.
Thanks for your info, glad to have my missconceptions clarified. Though other posts I've received suggest that groups of Mormon's , apologises for my previous spelling, are unaware of what is outside their own valley. This certainly isn't the cause in your situation though.
If I was in this situation I'd be reluctant to get a passport and travel overseas. This seems to be a bad thing for Americans as most of them don't really know what is outside of America... I learnt about other countries from stories of our war veterans fighting on foriegn soil to help protect it... Do American children get taught about the same stories of the 1st and 2nd World War? the A bomb drop etc in school? Mormans have it worse, their new testament was based in America, maybe they don't even know about the Israel/Palistine area....
Hopefully I'm only speaking about a small number the Americans and some of them can flame me back to disprove what I've just said.
"...government subsidises..." in Australia????? today??? you've got to be kidding.... America... Europe, yes. Australia??? Not in the past 15 years... Maybe you're stuck in the 80's... Just as a warning then, throw out that denim jacket. (No, it's not going to come back into fashion)
Another shock... Australia has a large sparse rural community. Not everyone lives in Sydney, Melbourne, Brisbane, Hobart, Darwin, Perth or icky Canberra. So what you are saying is right... 3.7% of GDP.. not much, but the generated affect on rural communities... might count for a larger
(From a N.S.W perspective) Maybe your thinking drought assistance??? Seeing a large of farmers haven't had an income for the past 3-5 years.... Try putting yourself in their position.... in some cases having to take loans or extend loan repayments for (3-5 years !!!!!) to keep their livestock alive, farms going etc...
Sure you might have a credit card debt, or loan to payback but the job you do from 8:30-5:30-6pm five days a week actually brings you in an income and you live relatively secure. What if the job did from 7-7:30-6:30pm 6-7 days a week wasn't bringing you in an adequate income all because it hasn't rained? How would you cope?
As others have stated though... Sure, dump the agricutural industry... let native regrowth take back the land and water systems... what then for rural communities? You want to import all of our fruit, vegatables, cotton, leather, milk, cheese, wool, wine (big irrigators), fish (I'm guessing you haven't heard of fish farms...), rice, cereals (wheat etc) bread, sugar (soft drinks, beer, all fast foods, ethonol), juices, meat, soy??? Take a look at the bigger picture... take a year off and go work as a farmhand/shearer/station hand and see what really goes on. Take note of the working conditions (No ADSL/CABLE!!!, poor mobile coverage) and rates of pay... Find out what oat/wheat dust feels over your skin on a 40 (C) degrees day, (a slight itch;) ) handle livestock, help birth a animal as large as/or larger than a sheep... treat some fly strike (Every one from PETA should have to treat fly strike as an initiation to their membership). Carry out milking two times a day , Cows don't take breaks on the weekend you know... that don't take holidays at all!!!
hahahaha... you sound as if you have a choice... good luck to you and the rest of the Win95/98 users out there who are struggling to hang on. XP 2001... next year it will be 5 years old... 3 years down the track... just think, 2003 or Vista?? It's kinda like voting for politician these days!!
--Stewie: Let me guess, you picked out yet another colorful box with a crank that I'm expected to turn and turn until OOP! big shock, a jack pops out and you laugh and the kids laugh and the dog laughs and I die a little inside.
I guess this is a good case for peoples attitudes/beliefs/opinion regarding Microsoft on Slashdot. Yes Slashdotka say microsoft is evil because the they have been so over their enitire history and continue to be. Yes we scrutinize and criticize all of their attempts at innovation to be deemed evil and a tightening on their strangle hold because from their past actions this is the case. It's like saying the government is doing a great job, has our best intentions in mind and we shouldn't criticize them for the job their doing. Corrupting people by fear, lying and intenionally being decitefull is a bad thing and should be slandered. It seems though if people keep doing and it becomes the status quo that it becomes morally and ethically OK. People become decensitized to lies... and then start believing in them.
Microsoft brings about innovation The War efforts in Iraq were just
People can be taught anything if they hear it enough
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I grew up on a farm, we never had to wear helmets even when on the motor bikes, I mostly wore one seeing it was bought for me, I never had a serious accident and nothing that a helmet would have protected me against.
Eventually I moved to the city and ended up riding through northern and central Sydney. I was always quite conservative and always wore a helmet and a UV vest. Mainly wore a helmet to avoid the fine of not wearing one.
I made a dash through a an amber light, the bus driver coming the other way turning right didn't see me and clipped me. I went down pretty quick. I remember thinking this is really going to suck slamming my head into the road... Oh the sweet, sweet feeling of having your head slam into the ground wearing a helmet. There is no better feeling in the world!!! I then jumped up, got off the road and started patting things down to see what was broken/bleeding. A slightly grazed cheek, knee and hand, no concussion and back riding to work in 10 mins. Someone saw it all, chased down the bus and we exchanged details, hence why it took 10 mins to go back riding.
I really like our mandatory helmet laws. I don't care so much for our our healthcare and compulsory third party car insurance... yet
"I am going to make a spectacular protest....a protestacular" -GOB BLUTH
I love that show... maybe just a little too much
...on electing a president who can speak English.
Yes, indeed.. errgh Gentoo
:P
Lies, damn lies, statistics and bench marking
=)
What will the next release be called after the Ziggy Zapper? D.. E.. F.. G.. ..Z.. ?
Guess this warning will apply to all the items in a happy meal then
The species, which has not been identified by local experts or the indigenous population, is roughly the size of a domestic cat and is believed to be carnivorous.
Well.. it could be a cat!!!
--
NO, I didn't RTFA, how observant of you.
I believe there is love....
I believe there is no God
What does 'A God' have to do with love?
This is reminding me of how crap the last matrix was... eek..
I just saw Santa Claus at the mall. So there!
I fully admit that I've been found out.
I'm still having trouble calling my Monkey magic cloud though, anyone got any hints?
For Pete's sake... does anybody question anything anymore?
I think your right!
Already heard that one.... can't prove god doesn't exist or does exist therefore seeing the bibile tells us so he must exist... the book, written by men.. for men to believe in. Nice try...
Okay.. then... Superman, Santa Claus may exist too... along with the Devil ("...the best trick the devil pulled off was convincing people he didn't exist!" really bored with that quote), Jesus and Hanaman the magical white monkey...
These figures/beliefs were created by the same creatures who believe and idolise them, i.e. humans.
In our existance (this world, universe) there are things that occur in this world that we cannot yet explain, this can make us feel somewhat insignificant and futile in our existance. It raises such questions as
- Why am I here?
- What is my purpose?
- What will happen to me when I no longer exist?
- What will be the consequences of my actions in this life?
This can somewhat be related to the need to believe in something!! (put simply in one aspect). Humans also feel compelled to hold morals and respect for others. Some(most) of us naturally become upset when people are treated unfairly(+many synonyms). Religion has been designed and evolved to accomodate and somewhat enforce this. E.g. don't kill, don't steal, don't cheat people, don't kill animals, don't eat meat, don't be greedy etc. Someone could probably better explain this need better than I can but be seen to be present in every culture with certain themes current through out.Here are some other characters that I have believed in over my life (especially as a child) that were created by man
- Santa Claus
- The Tooth fairy
- The Easter bunny
- Superman
- The Teeenage Mutant Ninja Turtles
- Monkey Magic
- Jesus
I was told by an enlightened Christian friend in the past that I would be going to hell after I died due to me not accepting God and Jesus... at the time I didn't ask her what the consequences were for no longer believing in the other characters, I wonder what the consequences would be?--
This is for you Claire
Hey everyone, the bible shouldn't be taken literally!!
Having been brought up and influenced by the Christian church for the first 17 1/2 years of my life I am now a devote Atheist. 2 years at a Catholic school for my final schooling did it for me. My parents still got to church.. more for a social occassion though as they are farmers and live in a small aging community.
Just like any religious text that has been passed down through the ages the messages behind the text rather the literal meaning of the texts what should be taken from them. Only being exposed to a Christian bible initially I still got this impression (stories of a basket of fish and bread feeding 2000, a guy being swallowed by a whale, 18000 specises of animal on an Ark, a burning bush?? BS) though this was reinfored when I saw a ballet of the Ramayana. This is a Hindu religious book which mentions a story of prince getting help from a white monkey, Hanaman to get his wife back... I think, spelling excused. The Gist was, you treat people like shit, it's going to come back on you, now behave!
Now if people who took the bible literally were exposed to such a story maybe they'd take the bible a little less literally... though Christianity has had certain constructs added to it over the years to make it difficult to come to terms with this, e.g. don't worship false idols/gods, being the only religion etc.
Quoting Mr T
"I pitty the fool"+who has been taught Christianity...
though most other modern religions are just as bad...
Have you tried:
"stop browsing porn sites all day long"
"don't click on advertisements offering things for free just as soon as you download their program"
"Installing firefox?"
And just to be a Slashdot user
"Install Linux/MacOSX"
"... unfortunately this urgency of this new release drew resources away from the web team and they were left with a pentium 166 to host the web site..."
Well done to the transgamming guys. Hopefully then can step up to where loki left off.
I could swear this comment is a dupe...
Don't feel too bad, I enjoyed reading it! :)
Thanks for your info, glad to have my missconceptions clarified. Though other posts I've received suggest that groups of Mormon's , apologises for my previous spelling, are unaware of what is outside their own valley. This certainly isn't the cause in your situation though.
Troll/Flamebait/Funny/Interesting
:-}
If I was in this situation I'd be reluctant to get a passport and travel overseas. This seems to be a bad thing for Americans as most of them don't really know what is outside of America... I learnt about other countries from stories of our war veterans fighting on foriegn soil to help protect it... Do American children get taught about the same stories of the 1st and 2nd World War? the A bomb drop etc in school? Mormans have it worse, their new testament was based in America, maybe they don't even know about the Israel/Palistine area....
Hopefully I'm only speaking about a small number the Americans and some of them can flame me back to disprove what I've just said.
*Holds up lighter to ignite flame throwers*
"...government subsidises..." in Australia????? today??? you've got to be kidding.... America... Europe, yes. Australia??? Not in the past 15 years... Maybe you're stuck in the 80's... Just as a warning then, throw out that denim jacket. (No, it's not going to come back into fashion)
;) ) handle livestock, help birth a animal as large as/or larger than a sheep... treat some fly strike (Every one from PETA should have to treat fly strike as an initiation to their membership). Carry out milking two times a day , Cows don't take breaks on the weekend you know... that don't take holidays at all!!!
Another shock... Australia has a large sparse rural community. Not everyone lives in Sydney, Melbourne, Brisbane, Hobart, Darwin, Perth or icky Canberra. So what you are saying is right... 3.7% of GDP.. not much, but the generated affect on rural communities... might count for a larger
(From a N.S.W perspective) Maybe your thinking drought assistance??? Seeing a large of farmers haven't had an income for the past 3-5 years.... Try putting yourself in their position.... in some cases having to take loans or extend loan repayments for (3-5 years !!!!!) to keep their livestock alive, farms going etc...
Sure you might have a credit card debt, or loan to payback but the job you do from 8:30-5:30-6pm five days a week actually brings you in an income and you live relatively secure. What if the job did from 7-7:30-6:30pm 6-7 days a week wasn't bringing you in an adequate income all because it hasn't rained? How would you cope?
As others have stated though... Sure, dump the agricutural industry... let native regrowth take back the land and water systems... what then for rural communities?
You want to import all of our fruit, vegatables, cotton, leather, milk, cheese, wool, wine (big irrigators), fish (I'm guessing you haven't heard of fish farms...), rice, cereals (wheat etc) bread, sugar (soft drinks, beer, all fast foods, ethonol), juices, meat, soy??? Take a look at the bigger picture... take a year off and go work as a farmhand/shearer/station hand and see what really goes on. Take note of the working conditions (No ADSL/CABLE!!!, poor mobile coverage) and rates of pay... Find out what oat/wheat dust feels over your skin on a 40 (C) degrees day, (a slight itch
Wait a second... I'm the youngest Uncle?
I only have one niece though and she's not even 1... so I think I can play it cool for a bit longer.
isn't Jack Thompson a famous orstraylian actor? (He seems to alway portray a very Aussie Australian in his Australian films)
hahahaha... you sound as if you have a choice... good luck to you and the rest of the Win95/98 users out there who are struggling to hang on.
XP 2001... next year it will be 5 years old... 3 years down the track... just think, 2003 or Vista?? It's kinda like voting for politician these days!!
--Stewie: Let me guess, you picked out yet another colorful box with a crank that I'm expected to turn and turn until OOP! big shock, a jack pops out and you laugh and the kids laugh and the dog laughs and I die a little inside.
I guess this is a good case for peoples attitudes/beliefs/opinion regarding Microsoft on Slashdot. Yes Slashdotka say microsoft is evil because the they have been so over their enitire history and continue to be. Yes we scrutinize and criticize all of their attempts at innovation to be deemed evil and a tightening on their strangle hold because from their past actions this is the case.
:P)
It's like saying the government is doing a great job, has our best intentions in mind and we shouldn't criticize them for the job their doing. Corrupting people by fear, lying and intenionally being decitefull is a bad thing and should be slandered. It seems though if people keep doing and it becomes the status quo that it becomes morally and ethically OK. People become decensitized to lies... and then start believing in them.
Microsoft brings about innovation
The War efforts in Iraq were just
People can be taught anything if they hear it enough
--"I can't spell for shit!" (there, I said it