Big deal, they slow the internet down to a crawl for a few days as firewall administrators around the globe block them.
I've already blocked them. If the eggheads can't control their mail servers I really don't want any traffic from them. They aren't getting me any business.
Can anyone give me a reason that I SHOULDN'T block those racists?
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I use it on all my servers, you're probably right, Debian is the better tweakable linux.
SuSE is really good for those of us that are starting because it comes with a NICELY documented book(s) explaining a lot of the basics and the medium difficulty stuff.
They also usually have a tech in their IRC room who will answer questions for you.
In the end I really like SuSE. It's done everything I've required and more. I usually use it as a server without a graphical front end, but even on my two workstations with the graphics, it installed nicely and didn't require me to know more than I need to know to use the systems. And one of them was a laptop.
The funniest thing about this article from Reuters is that Reuters has a huge MP3 archive on their servers. I doubt many people know about it as they inherited it from Bridge Information Systems when they bought it. I know because I used to work there. Not that I was a contributor.
Todd is the owner... I caught him sending a ton of spam to a bunch of my domains, traced down all their company info and there is nothing I can do about it. No lawyer will take the case unless I can prove at least $3000.00 damages. Any suggestions?
If any of you would like to tell them how you feel about spam, here's their contact info.
DialCentric Inc. 3A Professional Park Dr. Maryville, IL 62062 618-288-6661
Here's one of the pieces of proof:
SpamCop version 1.3.3 (c) Julian Haight, Joel Martin 1998-2002 All Rights Reserved
Saved email: This page may be saved for future reference: http://spamcop.net/sc?id=z35256178zd54 9318d4f44a23 a0ff844b17b2a8e4dz
Parsing header:
Received: from vica.4nsys.co.kr ([210.112.61.2]) by linux.thoughtprocess.net (8.11.0/8.11.2/SuSE Linux 8.11.1-0.5) with SMTP id g3954C000481 for ; Tue, 9 Apr 2002 00:04:12 -0500 Possible spammer: 210.112.61.2 [show] "nslookup vica.4nsys.co.kr" (checking ip) ip = 210.112.61.2 Taking name from IP... [show] "nslookup 210.112.61.2" (getting name) no name Received line accepted
Received: from HEWLETT-A6C5B34 (unverified [24.242.162.14]) by vica.4nsys.co.kr (EMWAC SMTPRS 0.83) with SMTP id ; Tue, 09 Apr 2002 13:59:55 +0900 [show] "nslookup 210.112.61.2" (getting name) no name Possible spammer: 24.242.162.14 Taking name from IP... [show] "nslookup 24.242.162.14" (getting name) 24.242.162.14 = rrcs-sw-24-242-162-14.biz.rr.com [show] "nslookup rrcs-sw-24-242-162-14.biz.rr.com" (checking ip) ip = 24.242.162.14
Chain test:vica.4nsys.co.kr =? vica.4nsys.co.kr
vica.4nsys.co.kr and vica.4nsys.co.kr have same hostname - chain verified Possible relay:210.112.61.2 [show] "nslookup 2.61.112.210.relays.ordb.org." (checking ip) ip = 127.0.0.2 210.112.61.2 is an open relay - saving header for proof. Received line accepted
Possible open relay: 210.112.61.2 [show] "nslookup 2.61.112.210.relays.ordb.org." (checking ip) ip = 127.0.0.2 [show] "nslookup 210.112.61.2" (getting name) no name [show] "whois 210.112.61.2@whois.arin.net" (Getting contact from whois.arin.net)
Redirect to apnic:
[show] "whois 210.112.61.2@whois.apnic.net" (Getting contact from whois.apnic.net)
whois.apnic.net redirects to krnic
[show] "whois 210.112.61.2@whois.krnic.net" (Getting contact from whois.krnic.net) (old krnic) [show] "whois 210.112.61.2@whois.ripe.net" (Getting contact from whois.ripe.net)
[show] "whois IANA1-RIPE@whois.ripe.net" (Getting contact from whois.ripe.net)
nothing found whois.ripe.net 210.112.61.2 = bitbucket@ripe.net Whois found: Falling back on IP addressing:postmaster@210.112.61.2 Reducing redundant links for 63.172.198.105
Found email address:l1l12345a1@btamail.net.cn [show] "dig btamail.net.cn mx" (digging for mail exchanger) Found mailserver:btamail.net.cn. = 202.106.196.70 abuse.net btamail.net.cn = postmaster@btamail.net.cn, spam@btamail.net.cn [show] "nslookup btamail.net.cn" (checking ip) ip = 202.106.196.70 abuse.net shortcut:postmaster@btamail.net.cn, spam@btamail.net.cn spam@btamail.net.cn bounces (1 sent : 99 bounces) Using spam#btamail.net.cn@devnull.spamcop.net for statistical tracking.
Found link:http://63.172.198.105/Fax%20Marketing%20Syste m.htm Unescaped: http://63.172.198.105/Fax Marketing System.htm [show] "nslookup 63.172.198.105" (getting name) no name [show] "nslookup 63.172.198.105" (getting name) no name [show] "nslookup 63.172.198.105" (getting name) no name
Tracking ip 63.172.198.105: [show] "nslookup 63.172.198.105" (getting name) no name Routing details for 63.172.198.105 [refresh/show] Cached whois for 63.172.198.105:noc@sprint.net noc@sprint.net: abuse.net sprint.net = abuse@sprint.net abuse.net sprint.net = abuse@sprint.net Using best abuse.net reporting addresses:abuse@sprint.net Whois found:abuse@sprint.net
Please make sure this email IS spam: From: ecitnf311510@yahoo.com (e-mail & fax marketing programs 31151076543332222211111)
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Report Spam to:
Re:210.112.61.2 (Administrator of network with open relays)
To: postmaster@210.112.61.2 (Notes)
Re:24.242.162.14 (Administrator of network where email originates)
To: abuse@rr.com (Notes)
Re:http://63.172.198.105/Fax Marketing System.htm (Administrator of network hosting website referenced in spam)
To: abuse@sprint.net (Notes)
Re:l1l12345a1@btamail.net.cn (Administrator of network hosting email address referenced in spam)
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It wouldn't surprise me. My eyes were bad as a kid and when I started wearing glasses they got worse quick. Everytime I visited the eye doctor I'd need a stronger pair.
A year and a half ago I had lasik done and I've been loving it ever since! It's not perfect, but it's sooooo much better than wearing glasses or contacts!
I used to run OS/2 Warp on my 386DX40 and my friend had a 386SX16, and his machine often seemed to run quicker under OS/2. I don't know if it was the microchannel bus or not. As far as I can remember both machines had similar amounts of ram.
Those Microchannel machines were pretty quick for their day. Too bad it was proprietary.
"My Honda Integra Type R manages about three-four times the power of your big-iron block at the same rev range, not to mention around the same torque."
ROFL! You do realize that HP is a function of torque at a particular RPM right? Ummm... Not too many 4 bangers have v8 torque at ANY rpm let alone the same rpm.
Mustang and other ford fanatics have been messing with their computers for years now.
There are all sorts of realtime management systems as well as piggyback chips that you can plug into your cars computer and flip a switch for different settings.
I see the advantages, but what if there are stable releases of software put out that expire?
Some people like to build a nice solid stable reliable system and let it go.
Besides, do you people really think that all those open relay machines are accidently left open? Yah right. Those people are getting paid well to leave them just the way they are.
Our local government run ISP (www.win.org) is very popular. Dialup service for $7/month. Granted, it sucks compared to a decent ISP that charges $15-$20 month. They give you a two hour block at a time (disconnects and you have to dial right back up) they have a limited number of modems so you can get busy signals. They also have poor reputation for booting people randomly.
But for $7/month, a lot of local people can deal with it! Senior citizens get a discount and teachers/city workers get free access.
Anyone can get free text based dial-in access (lynx) and email (pine).
I think it would be great to see them compete in the broadband area, that way when the phone company (Southwestern Bell around here) starts screwing with them the way they screw with their other customers (savvis, rythms, covad, Northpoint), the government can do something about it. Since they'll have to keep the playing field level, all the other companies will benefit from any leveling they do to the phone company.
I understand what you're saying, but do you think if those same people were brought up using different platforms they'd be so clueless?
Kids are being taught younger and younger, so I kind of have a feeling that the next generation of "office workers" will be more computer savvy and will be more non-microsoft.
Look at kids who learned on a Macintosh. Most of them that I know don't have any problems using MS Office, even if they were using Clarisworks on Mac.
Why teach them a specific platform or program at all? My personal theory is to teach people concepts and let them try out the different packages and decide which one they like.
I mean, do you have any problem switching from MS Office to Wordperfect to Star Office to Gobe Office?
I can fire up any of them and do any of the basic functions because I understand how a word processor or spreadsheet works, I can also do specific functions in each one that I can't do in the other.
In school districts, where they've got 2000+ workstations and they're all Pentiums and Pentium IIs. My company is converting a local school district over from Novell to linux this week.
The school has OLD machines. Pentium 90s with Win95b (16mb) are the oldest of them all. However, one or two 486sx33s were encountered as well.
I don't know about the newer USB keyboards but I wouldn't think they are any different. With standard AT and PS/2 keyboards you can wrap the cord around them (tie it up so it doesn't fall into the spinner.) and send them through the dishwasher. Just make sure they are 100000% dry before using them again. I usually sling mine around for a few minutes and then sit mine near a window in the sun or put a fan on it for a day.
You can buy the Kirby G6 for $900 if you force the dealers down in price. Then get the small sucking attachment. The kirby is a heavy beast but it has a hand held attachment... I would almost be afraid of it sucking the keys out of a keyboard. Seriously... The sucker really sucks!
Charge like $3 or something to download the ISOs. It's no big deal if people mirror them or copy them to friends, you just have to try and prevent multiple people from grabbing it. So only allow one login per username and expire the code after 15 days of the first login.
If they don't have everything they need in 15 days or if they didn't make a backup on CD they can pay another $3 and try again.
Slashdot Mirror
If companies had to pay me to read their EULA, I guarantee they would shorten it up and make it readable.
Punch the monkey! Punch the monkey!
Big deal, they slow the internet down to a crawl for a few days as firewall administrators around the globe block them.
I've already blocked them. If the eggheads can't control their mail servers I really don't want any traffic from them. They aren't getting me any business.
Can anyone give me a reason that I SHOULDN'T block those racists?
I use it on all my servers, you're probably right, Debian is the better tweakable linux.
SuSE is really good for those of us that are starting because it comes with a NICELY documented book(s) explaining a lot of the basics and the medium difficulty stuff.
They also usually have a tech in their IRC room who will answer questions for you.
In the end I really like SuSE. It's done everything I've required and more. I usually use it as a server without a graphical front end, but even on my two workstations with the graphics, it installed nicely and didn't require me to know more than I need to know to use the systems. And one of them was a laptop.
Two thumbs up!
Rock and roll. I set a new record. I haven't played minesweeper since... win98SR1!
Can I claim that all the spam these jerks send me are an attempt at a DoS attack?
The funniest thing about this article from Reuters is that Reuters has a huge MP3 archive on their servers. I doubt many people know about it as they inherited it from Bridge Information Systems when they bought it. I know because I used to work there. Not that I was a contributor.
Todd is the owner... I caught him sending a ton of spam to a bunch of my domains, traced down all their company info and there is nothing I can do about it. No lawyer will take the case unless I can prove at least $3000.00 damages. Any suggestions?
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If any of you would like to tell them how you feel about spam, here's their contact info.
DialCentric Inc.
3A Professional Park Dr.
Maryville, IL 62062
618-288-6661
Here's one of the pieces of proof:
SpamCop version 1.3.3 (c) Julian Haight, Joel Martin 1998-2002 All Rights Reserved
Saved email:
This page may be saved for future reference:
http://spamcop.net/sc?id=z35256178zd5
Parsing header:
Received: from vica.4nsys.co.kr ([210.112.61.2]) by linux.thoughtprocess.net (8.11.0/8.11.2/SuSE Linux 8.11.1-0.5) with SMTP id g3954C000481 for ; Tue, 9 Apr 2002 00:04:12 -0500
Possible spammer: 210.112.61.2
[show] "nslookup vica.4nsys.co.kr" (checking ip) ip = 210.112.61.2
Taking name from IP...
[show] "nslookup 210.112.61.2" (getting name) no name
Received line accepted
Received: from HEWLETT-A6C5B34 (unverified [24.242.162.14]) by vica.4nsys.co.kr (EMWAC SMTPRS 0.83) with SMTP id ; Tue, 09 Apr 2002 13:59:55 +0900
[show] "nslookup 210.112.61.2" (getting name) no name
Possible spammer: 24.242.162.14
Taking name from IP...
[show] "nslookup 24.242.162.14" (getting name) 24.242.162.14 = rrcs-sw-24-242-162-14.biz.rr.com
[show] "nslookup rrcs-sw-24-242-162-14.biz.rr.com" (checking ip) ip = 24.242.162.14
Chain test:vica.4nsys.co.kr =? vica.4nsys.co.kr
vica.4nsys.co.kr and vica.4nsys.co.kr have same hostname - chain verified
Possible relay:210.112.61.2
[show] "nslookup 2.61.112.210.relays.ordb.org." (checking ip) ip = 127.0.0.2
210.112.61.2 is an open relay - saving header for proof.
Received line accepted
Tracking message source:24.242.162.14:
[show] "nslookup 24.242.162.14" (getting name) 24.242.162.14 = rrcs-sw-24-242-162-14.biz.rr.com
[show] "nslookup rrcs-sw-24-242-162-14.biz.rr.com" (checking ip) ip = 24.242.162.14
Paranoid reverse DNS passes
abuse.net biz.rr.com = abuse@rr.com
Possible open relay: 210.112.61.2
[show] "nslookup 2.61.112.210.relays.ordb.org." (checking ip) ip = 127.0.0.2
[show] "nslookup 210.112.61.2" (getting name) no name
[show] "whois 210.112.61.2@whois.arin.net" (Getting contact from whois.arin.net)
Redirect to apnic:
[show] "whois 210.112.61.2@whois.apnic.net" (Getting contact from whois.apnic.net)
whois.apnic.net redirects to krnic
[show] "whois 210.112.61.2@whois.krnic.net" (Getting contact from whois.krnic.net) (old krnic) [show] "whois 210.112.61.2@whois.ripe.net" (Getting contact from whois.ripe.net)
[show] "whois IANA1-RIPE@whois.ripe.net" (Getting contact from whois.ripe.net)
nothing found
whois.ripe.net 210.112.61.2 = bitbucket@ripe.net
Whois found:
Falling back on IP addressing:postmaster@210.112.61.2
Reducing redundant links for 63.172.198.105
Found email address:l1l12345a1@btamail.net.cn
[show] "dig btamail.net.cn mx" (digging for mail exchanger) Found mailserver:btamail.net.cn. = 202.106.196.70
abuse.net btamail.net.cn = postmaster@btamail.net.cn, spam@btamail.net.cn
[show] "nslookup btamail.net.cn" (checking ip) ip = 202.106.196.70
abuse.net shortcut:postmaster@btamail.net.cn, spam@btamail.net.cn
spam@btamail.net.cn bounces (1 sent : 99 bounces)
Using spam#btamail.net.cn@devnull.spamcop.net for statistical tracking.
Found link:http://63.172.198.105/Fax%20Marketing%20Syst
Unescaped: http://63.172.198.105/Fax Marketing System.htm
[show] "nslookup 63.172.198.105" (getting name) no name
[show] "nslookup 63.172.198.105" (getting name) no name
[show] "nslookup 63.172.198.105" (getting name) no name
Tracking ip 63.172.198.105:
[show] "nslookup 63.172.198.105" (getting name) no name
Routing details for 63.172.198.105
[refresh/show] Cached whois for 63.172.198.105:noc@sprint.net
noc@sprint.net: abuse.net sprint.net = abuse@sprint.net
abuse.net sprint.net = abuse@sprint.net
Using best abuse.net reporting addresses:abuse@sprint.net
Whois found:abuse@sprint.net
Please make sure this email IS spam:
From: ecitnf311510@yahoo.com (e-mail & fax marketing programs 31151076543332222211111)
View full message
Report Spam to:
Re:210.112.61.2 (Administrator of network with open relays)
To: postmaster@210.112.61.2 (Notes)
Re:210.112.61.2 (Automated open-relay testing system(s))
To: Internal spamcop handling: (testrelays) (Notes)
Re:24.242.162.14 (Administrator of network where email originates)
To: abuse@rr.com (Notes)
Re:http://63.172.198.105/Fax Marketing System.htm (Administrator of network hosting website referenced in spam)
To: abuse@sprint.net (Notes)
Re:l1l12345a1@btamail.net.cn (Administrator of network hosting email address referenced in spam)
To: postmaster@btamail.net.cn (Notes)
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Additional notes (optional - will be the first paragraph of standard report):
I've never heard of that theory before.
It wouldn't surprise me. My eyes were bad as a kid and when I started wearing glasses they got worse quick. Everytime I visited the eye doctor I'd need a stronger pair.
A year and a half ago I had lasik done and I've been loving it ever since! It's not perfect, but it's sooooo much better than wearing glasses or contacts!
So what happens if someone on their network sends out 10 million spam messages and 50,000 of them hit my servers.
Will they pay me for allowing a spammer to send that much crap through my lines?
Those things are nasty!
I used to run OS/2 Warp on my 386DX40 and my friend had a 386SX16, and his machine often seemed to run quicker under OS/2. I don't know if it was the microchannel bus or not. As far as I can remember both machines had similar amounts of ram.
Those Microchannel machines were pretty quick for their day. Too bad it was proprietary.
"My Honda Integra Type R manages about three-four times the power of your big-iron block at the same rev range, not to mention around the same torque."
ROFL! You do realize that HP is a function of torque at a particular RPM right? Ummm... Not too many 4 bangers have v8 torque at ANY rpm let alone the same rpm.
Mustang and other ford fanatics have been messing with their computers for years now.
There are all sorts of realtime management systems as well as piggyback chips that you can plug into your cars computer and flip a switch for different settings.
I see the advantages, but what if there are stable releases of software put out that expire?
Some people like to build a nice solid stable reliable system and let it go.
Besides, do you people really think that all those open relay machines are accidently left open? Yah right. Those people are getting paid well to leave them just the way they are.
I can resell my bandwidth!
It's a business T1. I can do whatever I want with it.
Our local government run ISP (www.win.org) is very popular. Dialup service for $7/month. Granted, it sucks compared to a decent ISP that charges $15-$20 month. They give you a two hour block at a time (disconnects and you have to dial right back up) they have a limited number of modems so you can get busy signals. They also have poor reputation for booting people randomly.
But for $7/month, a lot of local people can deal with it! Senior citizens get a discount and teachers/city workers get free access.
Anyone can get free text based dial-in access (lynx) and email (pine).
I think it would be great to see them compete in the broadband area, that way when the phone company (Southwestern Bell around here) starts screwing with them the way they screw with their other customers (savvis, rythms, covad, Northpoint), the government can do something about it. Since they'll have to keep the playing field level, all the other companies will benefit from any leveling they do to the phone company.
I understand what you're saying, but do you think if those same people were brought up using different platforms they'd be so clueless?
Kids are being taught younger and younger, so I kind of have a feeling that the next generation of "office workers" will be more computer savvy and will be more non-microsoft.
Look at kids who learned on a Macintosh. Most of them that I know don't have any problems using MS Office, even if they were using Clarisworks on Mac.
Why teach them a specific platform or program at all? My personal theory is to teach people concepts and let them try out the different packages and decide which one they like.
I mean, do you have any problem switching from MS Office to Wordperfect to Star Office to Gobe Office?
I can fire up any of them and do any of the basic functions because I understand how a word processor or spreadsheet works, I can also do specific functions in each one that I can't do in the other.
I'll tell you where it will make a difference...
In school districts, where they've got 2000+ workstations and they're all Pentiums and Pentium IIs. My company is converting a local school district over from Novell to linux this week.
The school has OLD machines. Pentium 90s with Win95b (16mb) are the oldest of them all. However, one or two 486sx33s were encountered as well.
Every mb counts...
They've got no rhythm!
I can't wait to see it.
Nothing like seeing a bunch of blood sucking beavers! Sounds like we're nearing the quality of Night of the Lepus!
I understand Apple's point of view.
He can just work through someone else. Let someone who's older than him review his code and when he turns 18 he can sign up and be legit.
It kind of sucks for him, but legally he's just not able to work on it yet.
I don't know about the newer USB keyboards but I wouldn't think they are any different. With standard AT and PS/2 keyboards you can wrap the cord around them (tie it up so it doesn't fall into the spinner.) and send them through the dishwasher. Just make sure they are 100000% dry before using them again. I usually sling mine around for a few minutes and then sit mine near a window in the sun or put a fan on it for a day.
You can buy the Kirby G6 for $900 if you force the dealers down in price. Then get the small sucking attachment. The kirby is a heavy beast but it has a hand held attachment... I would almost be afraid of it sucking the keys out of a keyboard. Seriously... The sucker really sucks!
Charge like $3 or something to download the ISOs.
It's no big deal if people mirror them or copy them to friends, you just have to try and prevent multiple people from grabbing it. So only allow one login per username and expire the code after 15 days of the first login.
If they don't have everything they need in 15 days or if they didn't make a backup on CD they can pay another $3 and try again.
Wouldn't $3/download cover bandwidth costs?