Good grief! Get a grip! All I said is that's what he told me in 1999. I know he was wacky, egotistical, and NIH-oriented, and that Linux's SCSI has issues!:) Comments aren't always perfect from everyone's point of view and the topic is in memory of a nice guy.
To respond to your semi-relevant and personally misconstrued tangent, Adaptec had been utterly uninvolved with Linux up to that point in time, and the Linux drivers were very low end even though the community had done an awesome job of reverse engineering them without Adaptec's help. Immediately before joining VA, I was in 3rd level support at Netcom Hosting which consisted exclusively of Adaptec 2940UW's on Linux, and we had to disable every advanced feature just to keep them booted. I later worked with a guy who had previously been a project manager at Adaptec and who described to me the horrors involved in trying to get Adaptec's management to acknowledge the basic relevance of the existance of IEEE1394, and who concurred that they had been unconcerned with Linux at the point I mentioned.
The open source community's unstoppable ingenuity is what forced a lot of companies in general to pay attention to Linux's virtues in order to eventually remain relevant. That's all I meant. It was a comment about lnz's personal tenacity in his memory as a community icon, not an orthagonally correct industrial analysis.
The first half of your comment was relevant and appreciated though. I don't have the anonymous bitterness and cynicism required to contend in Slashdot discussions, so have a nice day and please move on.:)
Here are some big runon blurbs I tend to write in order to fondly remember and credit someone.
I was employee number twentysomething (IT admin) at VA Research, and I was interviewed by Larry, Rob, and Leonard. lnz always had time to randomly consult on the spot with employees in terms of engineering or general technology. Whenever he'd breeze through the office (never coming in before afternoon), ya knew he was kickin some ass. He was often seen smiling. He was one of the first people I was personally aware of to really use Linux itself to make a big dent in major industry, through his work with Buslogic and Mylex SCSI controllers. He told me when Adaptec finally stopped disavowing the existance of Linux, they came to VA and said "We're sorry. Can we play with Linux now?" and lnz said, "No. Too late." He'd already schooled them on Linux from the grassroots on up, forcing them to acknowledge an emerging market. I'm sure he was a strong mentor for that driver engineering and reverse engineering community. Man, that takes devotion and patience.
Ya couldn't mess with his workflow. He had like a mini data center and R&D lab at his house, which he relied solely on at all times, telneting home and xhosting his XEmacs display back to the office when we had public IP addresses for all workstations.:} I'd just negotiate with him so that he didn't have to end up scrounging together an engineering team to duplicate all of IT's infrastructure. *wink to mobyone and claw*
Then with the pre-IPO, he had to move his R&D out of his house into the office. This was when we were in the original garage-like Mountain View office next door to SGI North American sales on Shoreline, and our building's resources was about 3 times overcommitted by our growth rate. We had phone lines and ethernet cords draping out of the ceiling down to shared desks in order to accommodate having new employees per week, and I had to figure out how to route power all around the building using very warm and very illegal 14 gauge extension cords from each available power circuit to wherever in the building lnz's engineers needed them. Routed em like some people route ethernet cables. Such as to lnz's new 1 terabyte file server sitting next to my desk, powered by the women's restroom. That server was lnz's baby; you may have seen it at the March 1999 Linuxworld Expo. He blew that circuit that afternoon. Permanently. The women's restroom never worked again. Thanks to his rapidly growing engineering dept and to our new sales dept, the power generator in the back was hot enough to singe your body hair when you opened the door to it. The fsck alone on that event pushed the ship date back a day or more. Yeah he was shipping 1TB RAID servers with ext2.:}
lnz inadvertantly taught me a lot about fire and safety codes of Mountain View and Sunnyvale, and he taught me the proper use of the word "cryonics" instead of Hollywood's improper use of "cryogenics". He's one super nice guy. Hope to see ya around, lnz.
One way for small businesses to deal with the problem would be to avoid it by using Paypal. They're a reputable financial institution which can broker the exchange for you. You would never know the other party's confidential information. Some small businesses distribute their payroll to independant contractors that way.
On a related tangent, here's another question. Do you guys have any recommendations for a low end credit card purchase system requiring low or zero startup fee, but rather charging a per-transaction fee?
My computer monitor shook like hell, but I just thought it was because the washer was acting up.
It's funny how one can assume that when they're not expecting the shake. I heard a story about a survivor of the Oklahoma City bombing, who said that she suddenly heard a loud bang, went blind, and assumed that her computer monitor had somehow exploded on her. She didn't realize that at the time, half the room was now missing.
We were sitting here in San Ramon and felt a bump. Burtonator in #infoanarchy said "WE JUST HAD AN EARTHQUAKE". Ash said, "STOP CRASHING THRU EARTH K PLZ THX". Stunned, I rushed to find an earthquake site.
While I was trying to research the earthquake to see where it was and whether we were in immediate danger, I found that I could no longer access the site because of "Service Unavailable". Seriously disturbed at the idea of not knowing, I thought I'd read Slashdot and try the site later.
And here I discover a Slashdot story linking to that site.
I think that my post was on topic. The topic, or meta-topic, is to solve the problem of a company (in this case, a contractor's client) wanting to retain proprietary ownership of source code produced by someone else for the company's use in sales, marketing, and engineering.
I simply changed the context of the creation of the software in question. It's useful to discuss the universally shared problem of the contractor-to-client relationship, and it's also useful to discuss companies who were designed to facilitate this activity.
Have any of you guys worked with any of the collaborative development companies such as Collab.net or Asynchrony.com? What was your experience like?
In particular, I'm curious about Asynchrony because it might be effective for a self initiated community project to acquire the use of Asynchrony's sales and marketing arms. But I find what seems to be a contradiction in their terms of service.
Here's an excerpt from Asynchrony's FAQ:
..."there is really nothing to stop someone from downloading an open-source project from somewhere else on the Internet and submitting it. However, our standards for certification will require significant work in documentation, so anyone doing this would really have to be familiar with the project. As long as we continue to distribute the product under the open-source license it is under, there is really no illegality there."
However, here's another excerpt from their Intellectual Property FAQ:
"As stated in the code rights section, we really need to own products to be able to market them effectively. If you are willing to give up ownership in return for 75-90% of the product's net revenue (as well as the resources of the Asynchrony membership to help you improve it), then we can definitely help you."
The second statement appears to be contradictory to the first. I sent an email last night to the CTO of Asynchrony and his response today was that they're still trying to resolve that issue. I can't think of any upstanding and highly marketable open source project in its right might that would reassign copyright ownership to a foreign company just for a sales and marketing service. However, my cursory glance of their web site leads me to believe that their business model and corporate behavior are fully within the spirit and intent of licenses such as the GPL, so maybe we can come up with some ideas for them to solve this dilemma.
Why should a third party need to own the copyright of an open source work (GPL, BSD, etc) in order to effectively market and sell it?
Does anybody have a link to a site detailing exactly how much money is given to particular artists from the sales of their CDs and concert tickets and other common items? I'm interested in individual reality, not the blanket figures given on the RIAA's site. Thanks!
Check out Cerberus. Get the latest cvs version from that site, run './newburn', and let it go for 8-24 hours.
Invented at VA Linux, it became a de facto QA suite for SGI, Redhat, and some of the Linux kernel people. By default, it checks most of your subsystems concurrently which is more realistic and useful than just checking RAM or just checking hard drives, etc. It runs on Linux on ia32, ppc, and maybe others. Its strength can be set as high as you want, and its scripting engine can be set to do anything with any hardware combination and network. At high strength, it's been known to set machines on fire (sorry, no pics), but not at the default settings.
If so, I wonder what his plan is for competing with Microsoft! The Small Businesss Administration should add that as a new section heading for their Business Plan template for all new entrepreneurs in this country.
Section IX: Legal Status and Ownership
Section X: Financial Projections
Section XI: How to Compete With Microsoft
Section XII: Exit Strategy (if not covered in XI)
Appendix
Thanks for the info. How about my floppy disk problem then?:) I can only run VirtualPC on my Pismo Powerbook which has no floppy drive. My only machine with a floppy drive is a Powermac 8500 running Yellow Dog Linux. My only copy of OS/2 is version 3.0 on floppies.
So how can I make floppy images using OS/2 odd floppy format? Is there a particular size of/dev/fd0H* which I can simply 'cat' to a file and then drag into VPC?
What's the size of the OS/2 installation floppy format? I don't know anything about it.
Can OS/2 be run as a guest OS inside any version of VirtualPC on any version of MacOS?
I read in the VPC 4 release notes, that it can only run OS/2 4. What about 3, since that's what I have?
And since I only have 3 on floppy disks, how can I use Linux (my only system with a floppy drive) to read that odd floppy format as image files that I can feed into VPC so as to install it?
Worried about your moderation? In my experience, all you have to do to get modded all the way up on Slashdot, is to for no apparent reason claim that you'll probably get modded down, as you did.:)
I am looking for fully featured open source PVR software which can work on ppc Linux (Powermac 8500 with the PlanB A/V chipset). Particularly that which records from video4linux. I'd like software which automatically does the following:
change channels on digital cable or satellite (I don't know if a personal computer can do that without IR)
automatically get program listings via the Internet for digital cable or satellite, hopefully with categories
have some utility to convert to Divx or 3ivx
web-based or other GUI interface
On a relevant tangent, there was recently released some software for MacOS 10 which converts from DVD to everything else. This is the best stuff I've found.
Wanting it isn't; spending your life creating one is. Linus has always said that if DOS wasn't so crappy, he'd probably not have been so motivated to the point of writing Linux as we know it.
On MacOS 10, you script mouse movements with AppleScript or Perl. It's kind of a culture shock to be able to write a cron job which Applescripts your GUI and OS events:)
I'm curious to know the reaction from Apple's internal culture, particularly that of Steve Jobs.
I have read all the Apple books I'm aware of as of before Steve became iCEO, and they're largely a behavioral analysis of Steve's proactive and reactive mind. I haven't read Steve's latest book. Now he's more civilized but is known to spontaneously fire anyone who gets in the way of making extremely critical and improbable things happen, such as when they completely redesigned apple.com and the company store within a few months. In other words, he's still extremely demanding of precision high performance, which is a very good demand.
I wonder what happens behind closed doors after a major FUBAR like this happens. What is said? What are the looks on peoples' faces at the moment? What does Steve do, say, and look like? What chain of the culture panics over what he'll do or over their employment status after hearing the news?
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Good grief! Get a grip! All I said is that's what he told me in 1999. I know he was wacky, egotistical, and NIH-oriented, and that Linux's SCSI has issues! :) Comments aren't always perfect from everyone's point of view and the topic is in memory of a nice guy.
:)
To respond to your semi-relevant and personally misconstrued tangent, Adaptec had been utterly uninvolved with Linux up to that point in time, and the Linux drivers were very low end even though the community had done an awesome job of reverse engineering them without Adaptec's help. Immediately before joining VA, I was in 3rd level support at Netcom Hosting which consisted exclusively of Adaptec 2940UW's on Linux, and we had to disable every advanced feature just to keep them booted. I later worked with a guy who had previously been a project manager at Adaptec and who described to me the horrors involved in trying to get Adaptec's management to acknowledge the basic relevance of the existance of IEEE1394, and who concurred that they had been unconcerned with Linux at the point I mentioned.
The open source community's unstoppable ingenuity is what forced a lot of companies in general to pay attention to Linux's virtues in order to eventually remain relevant. That's all I meant. It was a comment about lnz's personal tenacity in his memory as a community icon, not an orthagonally correct industrial analysis.
The first half of your comment was relevant and appreciated though. I don't have the anonymous bitterness and cynicism required to contend in Slashdot discussions, so have a nice day and please move on.
Here are some big runon blurbs I tend to write in order to fondly remember and credit someone.
:} I'd just negotiate with him so that he didn't have to end up scrounging together an engineering team to duplicate all of IT's infrastructure. *wink to mobyone and claw*
:}
I was employee number twentysomething (IT admin) at VA Research, and I was interviewed by Larry, Rob, and Leonard. lnz always had time to randomly consult on the spot with employees in terms of engineering or general technology. Whenever he'd breeze through the office (never coming in before afternoon), ya knew he was kickin some ass. He was often seen smiling. He was one of the first people I was personally aware of to really use Linux itself to make a big dent in major industry, through his work with Buslogic and Mylex SCSI controllers. He told me when Adaptec finally stopped disavowing the existance of Linux, they came to VA and said "We're sorry. Can we play with Linux now?" and lnz said, "No. Too late." He'd already schooled them on Linux from the grassroots on up, forcing them to acknowledge an emerging market. I'm sure he was a strong mentor for that driver engineering and reverse engineering community. Man, that takes devotion and patience.
Ya couldn't mess with his workflow. He had like a mini data center and R&D lab at his house, which he relied solely on at all times, telneting home and xhosting his XEmacs display back to the office when we had public IP addresses for all workstations.
Then with the pre-IPO, he had to move his R&D out of his house into the office. This was when we were in the original garage-like Mountain View office next door to SGI North American sales on Shoreline, and our building's resources was about 3 times overcommitted by our growth rate. We had phone lines and ethernet cords draping out of the ceiling down to shared desks in order to accommodate having new employees per week, and I had to figure out how to route power all around the building using very warm and very illegal 14 gauge extension cords from each available power circuit to wherever in the building lnz's engineers needed them. Routed em like some people route ethernet cables. Such as to lnz's new 1 terabyte file server sitting next to my desk, powered by the women's restroom. That server was lnz's baby; you may have seen it at the March 1999 Linuxworld Expo. He blew that circuit that afternoon. Permanently. The women's restroom never worked again. Thanks to his rapidly growing engineering dept and to our new sales dept, the power generator in the back was hot enough to singe your body hair when you opened the door to it. The fsck alone on that event pushed the ship date back a day or more. Yeah he was shipping 1TB RAID servers with ext2.
lnz inadvertantly taught me a lot about fire and safety codes of Mountain View and Sunnyvale, and he taught me the proper use of the word "cryonics" instead of Hollywood's improper use of "cryogenics". He's one super nice guy. Hope to see ya around, lnz.
Good question. Especially when things like Appgen and MyBooks and Moneydance!
On a related tangent, here's another question. Do you guys have any recommendations for a low end credit card purchase system requiring low or zero startup fee, but rather charging a per-transaction fee?
The closest thing I can suggest is this. It's the original Spider-Man trailer from before 9/11/2002, showing the twin towers prominently and intact.
Wait... that would imply that our government was lying to the public!
While I was trying to research the earthquake to see where it was and whether we were in immediate danger, I found that I could no longer access the site because of "Service Unavailable". Seriously disturbed at the idea of not knowing, I thought I'd read Slashdot and try the site later.
And here I discover a Slashdot story linking to that site.
clicking reload...
I simply changed the context of the creation of the software in question. It's useful to discuss the universally shared problem of the contractor-to-client relationship, and it's also useful to discuss companies who were designed to facilitate this activity.
In particular, I'm curious about Asynchrony because it might be effective for a self initiated community project to acquire the use of Asynchrony's sales and marketing arms. But I find what seems to be a contradiction in their terms of service.
Here's an excerpt from Asynchrony's FAQ:
However, here's another excerpt from their Intellectual Property FAQ: The second statement appears to be contradictory to the first. I sent an email last night to the CTO of Asynchrony and his response today was that they're still trying to resolve that issue. I can't think of any upstanding and highly marketable open source project in its right might that would reassign copyright ownership to a foreign company just for a sales and marketing service. However, my cursory glance of their web site leads me to believe that their business model and corporate behavior are fully within the spirit and intent of licenses such as the GPL, so maybe we can come up with some ideas for them to solve this dilemma.Why should a third party need to own the copyright of an open source work (GPL, BSD, etc) in order to effectively market and sell it?
Does anybody have a link to a site detailing exactly how much money is given to particular artists from the sales of their CDs and concert tickets and other common items? I'm interested in individual reality, not the blanket figures given on the RIAA's site. Thanks!
Invented at VA Linux, it became a de facto QA suite for SGI, Redhat, and some of the Linux kernel people. By default, it checks most of your subsystems concurrently which is more realistic and useful than just checking RAM or just checking hard drives, etc. It runs on Linux on ia32, ppc, and maybe others. Its strength can be set as high as you want, and its scripting engine can be set to do anything with any hardware combination and network. At high strength, it's been known to set machines on fire (sorry, no pics), but not at the default settings.
If so, I wonder what his plan is for competing with Microsoft! The Small Businesss Administration should add that as a new section heading for their Business Plan template for all new entrepreneurs in this country.
Section IX: Legal Status and Ownership
Section X: Financial Projections
Section XI: How to Compete With Microsoft
Section XII: Exit Strategy (if not covered in XI)
Appendix
Thanks for the info. How about my floppy disk problem then? :) I can only run VirtualPC on my Pismo Powerbook which has no floppy drive. My only machine with a floppy drive is a Powermac 8500 running Yellow Dog Linux. My only copy of OS/2 is version 3.0 on floppies.
/dev/fd0H* which I can simply 'cat' to a file and then drag into VPC?
So how can I make floppy images using OS/2 odd floppy format? Is there a particular size of
What's the size of the OS/2 installation floppy format? I don't know anything about it.
Thanks!
Can OS/2 be run as a guest OS inside any version of VirtualPC on any version of MacOS?
I read in the VPC 4 release notes, that it can only run OS/2 4. What about 3, since that's what I have?
And since I only have 3 on floppy disks, how can I use Linux (my only system with a floppy drive) to read that odd floppy format as image files that I can feed into VPC so as to install it?
Yeah but it's a shame that a man with all that money still cuts his own hair.
Worried about your moderation? In my experience, all you have to do to get modded all the way up on Slashdot, is to for no apparent reason claim that you'll probably get modded down, as you did. :)
Hey there. Care to share a list of your favorite video4linux-oriented open source PVR urls?
- change channels on digital cable or satellite (I don't know if a personal computer can do that without IR)
- automatically get program listings via the Internet for digital cable or satellite, hopefully with categories
- have some utility to convert to Divx or 3ivx
- web-based or other GUI interface
On a relevant tangent, there was recently released some software for MacOS 10 which converts from DVD to everything else. This is the best stuff I've found.Is there anyone here who actually performed the stage select code?
Michael, computing has cultural implications and you're a jerk.
Wanting it isn't; spending your life creating one is. Linus has always said that if DOS wasn't so crappy, he'd probably not have been so motivated to the point of writing Linux as we know it.
On MacOS 10, you script mouse movements with AppleScript or Perl. It's kind of a culture shock to be able to write a cron job which Applescripts your GUI and OS events :)
I have read all the Apple books I'm aware of as of before Steve became iCEO, and they're largely a behavioral analysis of Steve's proactive and reactive mind. I haven't read Steve's latest book. Now he's more civilized but is known to spontaneously fire anyone who gets in the way of making extremely critical and improbable things happen, such as when they completely redesigned apple.com and the company store within a few months. In other words, he's still extremely demanding of precision high performance, which is a very good demand.
I wonder what happens behind closed doors after a major FUBAR like this happens. What is said? What are the looks on peoples' faces at the moment? What does Steve do, say, and look like? What chain of the culture panics over what he'll do or over their employment status after hearing the news?