Gimp is not suitable for designing icons and logos. It is not even meant to be. I do graphics for a streaming media company
uhhhhhhm........No.. I won't... no comment.
And so you have this opinion about Illustrator. Well...
When opensource programmers write a vector illustration program that does what Illustrator does, and does it markedly faster and better then you can maybe call Illustrator bloatware. Til then you're just another OSS sturmtrooper beating your chest with the Tux salute chanting commercial software bad, OSS good. Meanwhile the rest of the world will be getting their design work done with tools that work, even if they cost money. And will probably consider that money well spent if they know anything about the free alternatives.
Lone Smurf is dead on:
The Linux Standards Base people have done something so thoroughly Bush League here, it boggles. IT BOGGLES! 99.999% of the young designers in the world, talented or otherwise, who would have an incentive to donate their work on a graphic identity for LSB so they could put it in their book, just got the door slammed in their face. And who's left now? People who don't or probably can't make graphic design their trade. Sure they'll contribute! But so what? They'll contribute something a first year design student would be embarassed to turn in as a weekly project. I would be gasping in astonishment but really on second thought it is so like OSS zealots to do something stupid and totalitarian like this.
I neverlike to make broad sweeping statements, but All graphic marks, logos, icons &etc. associated with Linux suck ASS, and the reason, I'm afraid to say, is that Linux people generally don't know enough to know how far out of their element they are in matters graphical or artisitic and fail to recognize that they need someone different to help.
So what's next in the Long March to Purity of Essence ?
Apache webservers that will stop serving pages created by Dreamweaver or other non-OSS programs?
Hey LSB! why not just put a big stamp on everything you do that goes out in the world to be seen that says "We're unprofessional, that's right! We don't care what is best. We're simply about inbred purity. We are not an official industry-standards body with standing to be reckoned with, we're just an informal bunch of busybodies who send out nuisance flyers occasionally when we aren't trying to kill each other. Dismiss us! ".
Hey Nick Petreley! Way to tell the commercial software world how welcome they are in the Linux market! Way to go buddy!
I think a major problem with the "network appliance for the masses" model has been that they (almost all) try to limit your internet access to a brand of ISP.
Most of the people who're interested in a lightweight task-specific net station already own PCs and have an ISP. None of which are they prepared to toss out for something as limited as an iOpener or for Internet service that's bought bulk rate from no-name, local ISPs and channelled through the hardware maker's portal.
Not saying local off-brand ISPs can't be good.
What they need to do is sell inet appliances that can integrate with what you already have. (PC, LAN, ISP of customer's choosing) and offer addon software- think: X-11 and tarantella, that allow users to easily run applications over the LAN on their main PC and display/control them from the inet appliance.
All the pieces to do this are in existence already. However, the way copro-rate America seems to want to deal with this capability is by blunting its edge. they talk a big game about how powerful and liberating the tech is, but what they do is to force consumers into a rent-to-own situation where they must write monthly checks for their services. And to make up for the coercive choice-free nature of their product, they dress it up with a lot of useless whizz-bang -think: inet appliance ISP portals, think MSN &.NET.
Not surprisingly, the target audience is turned-off. The manufacturers can't get to the regular people because the early adopter types are not attracted to this kind of crap. (Unless they can hack it to do what they want and it represents a savings of space or dollars over a regular lowend PC).
The problem is that the engineers can't get past the marketting ghouls and convince management to make products that people really want.
Just out of curiosity -not because I'm laughing at you or anything- but just out of curiosity, could you or anyone else here point me to a record of cases where individual possession and use of a firearm (any calibre, mag size your choice) ever successfully prevented the execution of a warrant by US law enforcement upon a named individual and premises at the specified street address in the warrant, without death or dangerous injury to the objecting individual and/or mortal danger to innocents in his company or household.
Just curious about what seems to be a "magical talisman" theory.
My impression -and i could simply be misled by my local news!- is that the police tend not to go away when the induhvidual reponds to the warrant by brandishing a firearm. In fact, far from turning around and leaving, police all over the area seem to discover a renewed and invigorated interest in the brandishing induhvidual. But that's only my impression. The gun-toting among us no doubt have kept very scrupulous records on these situations and their outcomes.
What must the score be up to about now? Police:0, gun brandishing, warrant repudiating residents: 117,355 ?
Yeah, that's rigght it's just like before in the good old days - sure
WHoops, in "olden dayes" people in your village who knew you and talked *might* have to care about your response to what they said about you. They knew you and you knew them. They would even forget some things they knew about you over time. But today, there's no symmetry to that relationship at all. They know all about you from the extensive shared archived indexed and crossreferenced databases of your retail purchases, services are billed for, your demographic profile, your zipcode, your medical history, and all the same data that pertains to people related to you. And you don't have any idea who "they" are. They will be companies like TRW, and WHOEVER pays for the data. Genetic cross referencing of data obtained by insurers on behalf of your employers is how far off would you guess? 5 years? 10 years ? And no bit of data and no conclusion based on a derived profile no matter how erroneous will ever be forgotten.
Gee, on second thought maybe it isn't one fucking bit like the olden days! Hmmm?
How many cases did the US gov't prosecute against General Electric in the 70s and 80s --blowing off toxic waste cleanup regs, lying to gov't regulators, fraud and overbilling (overbillioning) on defense contracts, etc.-- and did Uncle Sam stop buying from GE even for a moment, a corporation which, if it were a person living in California, would now be in jail for life? (3 strikes)
There are many advantages to being a monopoly power- being a power to be reckoned with is probably first, even before profits. Besides that, in other gov't dept.s than the DoJ, MSFT is still regarded as a cool up and coming software company that is among the very few comapines they would trust to write a large complex networked accounting system in a reasonable time frame.
Killing off your competitors may have some long term risks, but you can see for yourself how handsomely it returns in the short run.
Once upon a time the majority voted to put a short mad dictator in power who commited some of the worst atrocities our
collective memory has ever seen.
False. A sizeable chunk of the voters (37%) put his party in powerful position in the Reichstag, though not in anything approaching absolute power. It would not reach that level of support again in any subsequent free elections. The next free election the Nazis lost over 30 seats. A cabal of bankers and industrialists (led by Schact and Thyssen) hereditary land magnates (Von Papen) and old-skool generals ( Von Ludendorff) prevailed upon the old but legitimately elected President P. Von Hindenburg, who disliked and feared Hitler, to make Hitler Chancellor of the Reich. After becoming Chancellor Hitler used the massive intimidating street presence of the SA and SS (Nazi paramilitary groups) to rig the next election. Remind you of recent scenes in the County Courthouses down in Florida ? Well, the resemblance is there if slight; you have to remember that the Nazis paramilitaries were already rioting against Jews, COmmunists, Socialists, Union officials, unfriendly journalists in the street, sometimes even beating them to death in broad daylight, sometimes if they felt the need for stealth they killed them at night in their homes. There was no election after Hitler's grab for the Chancellorship that could be called legitimate.
The Chancellorship had attached to it, through the constitution, the power to declare a state of national emergency. Hitler had his unfairly elected goons (STILL not an outright majority) in the Reichstag pass the Enabling Act, expanding that power to essentially mean anything at all at his discretion and therefore his Party's institutions such as the Brown Shirted SA and the SS became organs of Law enforcement. Hindenburg died and Hitler used the unbounded powers given to him by his jackboot parliament to abolish the office of President (which precisely because it required a MAJORITY of the popular vote, was a position Hitler could never win - sound familiar?) The powers of the presidency which derived directly from the people in plenary Hitler simply absorbed by fiat.
Then they burned the Reichstag building down to make sure noone dared to attempt a reversal of the new "arrangements" through democratic parliamentary manoeuvre. Parties which could never be amenable to Nazi rule - the Socialists, The KPD were outlawed (sound familiar?). Jews were officially expelled from public life. Trade Unions were abolished.
It was morning, again, in the Reich.
BTW: No one was more contemptuous of majority rule than Mr. Schicklegruber.
Libertarians --5th grade level civics, but PhDs in Revisionist History.
The barbarians gazed upon the works of the civilized folk of Catal-Hryuk and fell into stupefied awe: they had multilevel domiciles connected by public ladders, they had elaborate churches adorned with with bullhorns and altars of fire, they had cable...
The barbarians forgot the first rule of barabrians and did not attack.
That was their first mistake, for which we have paid a higher and higher price every year since.
Gosh, you seem incredibly smart for a Troll! Can you tell me why they don't use a standard military transport, eg C141, or C5 for this purpose? Surely you must know...
By the way, have you ever encountered the topic of degree - y'know like MORE and LESS...
As in more dangerous or less dangerous -or, say- more likely or less likely
Hmmm??
The thing that so many of us don't remember is that capitalism is based on the idea of companies competing, not cooperating.
Hah! Tell that to the capitalists. For that matter, tell it to Adam Smith, who once said that, when businessmen of the same trade are ever in each others' company, sooner or later the talk turns to how they can combine or enter into a pricing cartel.
Tell it to Replislimes who would sell your freedom, and your ass along with it, to any multi-national corporation no matter how foreign or domestic, no matter how solvent or insolvent, in the name of laissez-fuckover capitalism.
A fig for your "capitalism" sir - a roasted fart for your capitalism!
You're wasting your breath if argue with this guy - if you've been following this site for long you'd know that his job is to talk shit about Linux here.
I don't want to say anything that would be misleading, but i believe the official line from Apple is that OSX will install on beige G3's or later. Now, I think there's a gray area though in that statement because what it may effectively mean is that Apple's own target for guaranteed, no-worries installation is G3's and up - but it may be possible to install on other machines via the unsupported install option. You may/may not have weird intermittent isoluable problems by choosing to do so, so (I would) wait a while after the official release and check boards like xlr8yourmac and others for success stories and caveats.
I think one problem with IA model is that almost everyone has tried to push it as a replacement for the PC when it should be sold as a complement - an extension of the PC you already own in a smaller, task-specific, maintenance free form. You already have a PC if you've heard of Internet Appliances, and no one is going to buy a second PC to put it in their kitchen, so you should be offered something that leverages your existing capabilities: the LAN station with your old PC as home ASP, file+print server, and router. Maybe it will take pervasive wireless LAN tech to make it work.
Yeah, but it probably boots from a ROM. Leetle more work replacing ROM image with LinuxBIOS than overwriting boot sect with LILO.
Where are all the Linux internet appliances I was promised?? I was promised Linux internet appliances !!
Seriously.
They got this great thing called LinuxBIOS developed in part at Los Alamos, but damn if you kin find anybody using it to make SBC linboxes (the obvious thing to do). No, everbuddy's got to have their own Gigantor-Beowulf clusters these days - no luv for the SBC and the lowly LAN station. I say the world don't need no more nuclear simulations than it's already got...what we need is cheapo linboxes that boot up in < 3 sec. with / on a flashdisk, and that mount/homer from the old 30gig PC down the hall. ALL the parts are there waiting to be used, but only MSFT and cronies are using them.
I want whatever it is that you're smoking... The Appellate level (Raygun appointed) and the Supreme Court (Satan-spawned) need only the slightest indications of acquiescence from Ashcroft -or whoever AttyGen. turns out to be.
Expect a reversal on appeal and no follow-on appeal to the SCOTUS. You're deep in pleasant dreams if you imagine that that case could still be alive.
More like they want to destroy the `net with MS tech, keep open the one viable part left -based on their software, with their ticketbooths and machinegun towers- and meter access to the rest of the world.
Bring me the head of Gill Bates!
I keep telling people that this is EXACTLY what Linux needs: X-11 for network connected apps (far less frequently used than locally attached display - deny if it you can!) and also for the legacy stuff you won't want to be without in the new millenium, such as, oh, xcalc or xeyes remotely displayed in lovely, net-safe 8bit color.
And then alongside X, something that actually _does the job_ in a competent and polished manner. Like Quartz.
Seriously, why not have both ? CLick X-11. Click back to Quartz. MI/X Xserver for Mac worked like that, except it was unmaintained crap. Tenon's Xtools might be even better as a model since they nest X-11 app windows with the Apple Coregraphics server. Anyway, the future of newtworked applications is clearly not in pushing pixels or pushing drawing primitives down the wire at clients, is it? It's already XML, and even html interfaces, Java, and Corba compponents.
X is certainly not useless, yet, but it's basic premises even the ones behind its virtues, are being superceded even as its rough spots are shown up more and more by so-called stupid people's OS.
Exemplary graphics applications just will not come to Linux with the graphics of X as they are, that much should be clear by now. (No, 3d apps using OpenGL don't count - they push X aside in order to get at the hardware direcl;ty) XFree86 on OSX and especially Xtools shows the way it could be better for Linux in the future or could have been already if people had been planning ahead for a Linux worthy of workstation/desktop use.
I don't see why the argument is tired just because it HAS BEEN TRUE FOR A LONG TIME, nor why he should drop it. I don't really care what your KDE2 desktop looks like - I have seen FM for Linux and just like EVERY other graphics app on Linux it looks like complete shit while in use. The drawing primitives are well, primitive and there's no antialiasing to smoothe out the ugliness. I can promise you that if (all other things being equal) you tried to force workers in the primary DTP, prepress and graphic design markets for this kind of application, say you owned a Printer's or a graphic design firm, to use non-antialiased versions of the OS's they currently use, or tried to foist some OS chained to X11 upon them, they would leave your employment for the next available opportunity in their field. And no one who understands how they work would blame them.
(Warning! Incendiary and overly-dramatic comments
below!) Web based banking over ssl, and downloading transactions to a personal finance app are different subjects that should be considered separately--I don't see that going on in this discussion. My experience is that most of the major banks that I would choose from to handle my accounts, already do web-based online banking just fine. Looking at the comments here I see that there are a few exceptions in the world. But there is an EASY solution to this problem: don't bank with these fuckhead companies and be sure to tell them why you're withdrawing all your money.
That leaves the second problem: none of the banks, Netscape friendly or otherwise, currently allow direct, online banking from your personal finance app -unless it is Quicken or Money on Mac or Windows. Currently all banks screw over Linux/BSD/SOlaris/etc. users. And also they screw over the many Macintosh users who have sworn to never be reamed by Intuit again like they were by the Y2K bug in Quicken for Mac. Mac being a Y2K safe platform, this failure was just an intolerable example of shoddiness, and I certainly understand a Mac user vowing never to buy an Intuit product again.
It has also not yet been said that there's NO GOOD REASON for this exclusiveness and active discrimination. The data format that direct online banking uses is Open and documented. It's called OFX. You can look it up and build your own client for it.
And there is ALSO a Java application available right now to download and enter your OFX formatted data to your machine regardless of whether you use Windows, Mac, Linux, *BSD, Solaris or any other OS with a upto date JAVA VM. It's called Moneydance --specifically the 3.0ALPHA version.
It's not in the regular download area yet for Moneydance at www.seanreilley.com/moneydance. You have to ask for it, but it does exist and I suspect its ALPLHA status has mainly to do with the refusal of the banks to connect to their online servers. You will also have to pay 25 dollars to enable the OFX banking features it has. Otherwise you can use it free of charge.
It is this refusal by the banks to allow non-Intuit non-MS clients to connect that has to be focussed on and overcome. A FTC investigation into cartel style collusion between Intuit and the banks might not be too wacky of an idea at some point. ALways remember this--YOU ARE THE CUSTOMER! And you are NOT asking them to do something special for you.
PLease contact your bank's online banking dept. (that little button that says "contact us") and request that Moneydance be allowed to connect to their servers-whether you actually plan to buy the fully function Moneydance 3 or not. There is no other way yet availble for you to do direct online banking from Linux or BSD and if they are blocking a closed source commercial Java app that is OFX compliant they will certainly block GnuCash when/if OFX support is added to it. You don't get your rights by always being polite and non-confrontational. It can be easy to forget that movements like the civil rights push in the 60s pissed off and upset a lot of semi-well meaning white people who were not overtly racist and didn't actively support apartheid laws and parties. We have rushed to smoothe over the rougher edges in our cultural memory, but if you look back at the documents of the civil rights era, you can see that civil rights were not achieved by saintly black people sending in a few well-written, poignant essays into their local newspapers editorial section and parading quietly and dispersing when told to by the police. Sometimes you do have to get in their faces and demand fair and equal treatment.
I have little to add, except that I am in the same situation, feel abused in the same way by their past promises, have ranted and raved (anonymously) about this issue here and elsewhere, and I am putting nvidia and my former business with them in the past tense. They have lost all credibility with me and i can't imagine the scenario that reverses that.
Bottomline: as a customer, Ican't trust this company. My use of Linux is not going to held hostage to one company's schedule for driver revisions--especially one that gives Linux support a priority as low as this company does.
MS will not release any Office port for Linux until such time as MS has been broken up into component businesses by a court settlement.
Even without the prospect of a breakup they might have been working on one at a low priority anyway. It would be stupid not to plan for future contingencies. But there's more reason at least for someone to want this to get done quickly.
When MS is broken up, Bill will probably leave with the applications division in his pocket. OS is looking less and less attractive. Win2K is being squeezed from below by Linux and from above by Sun. It will never be the goldmine that Dos/Windos has been. As for that former goldmine, Win9x is the product that's in legal trouble and under scrutiny: dealing with it is just going to get more and more tedious following the settlement/Court Order. Anyway, applications are where it's at profit wise --I thought almost everyone around here agreed that Office is really the basis of the monopoly. And keeping applications under his control keeps Bill mobile in a post-breakup world.
If he wants to remain the Grand Vizier in the future that he has been til now, Bill will abscond with applications and suddenly become Linux's best friend.
Then you will see Bill Gates magically produce "Office for Linux" as if plucked it from under Judge Jackson's robe. At which time, the most common Mac application will be his property, the most common Win32 apps will also be his, and the applications that give Linux the legitimacy to vie at last for world OS dominance will also belong to Bill Gates. During these feats of pretigitation he'll have never left the audience's gaze on center stage for a second, and he should easily find ways to become the biggest beneficiary of the world's "Great March To Linux".
Meanwhile, since that future route (breakup) is not yet necessary, he can slow the adoption of wouldbe competitors in the Linux field. Aren't we just around the corner from Corel's Office2000 for Linux announcement?
When you hear that Microsoft is working on a port of Office for Linux, you can file in it the memory hole--Microsoft may be working on a port, but Microsoft won't be a company anymore when or if this thing is ever released. IOW: it's a vapor announcemnt from a company that hasn't even been born yet. Pure BogeyMan, and nothing to lose sleep over.
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Gimp is not suitable for designing icons and logos. It is not even meant to be.
I do graphics for a streaming media company
uhhhhhhm........No.. I won't... no comment.
And so you have this opinion about Illustrator. Well...
When opensource programmers write a vector illustration program that does what Illustrator does, and does it markedly faster and better then you can maybe call Illustrator bloatware. Til then you're just another OSS sturmtrooper beating your chest with the Tux salute chanting commercial software bad, OSS good. Meanwhile the rest of the world will be getting their design work done with tools that work, even if they cost money. And will probably consider that money well spent if they know anything about the free alternatives.
Lone Smurf is dead on:
The Linux Standards Base people have done something so thoroughly Bush League here, it boggles. IT BOGGLES! 99.999% of the young designers in the world, talented or otherwise, who would have an incentive to donate their work on a graphic identity for LSB so they could put it in their book, just got the door slammed in their face. And who's left now? People who don't or probably can't make graphic design their trade. Sure they'll contribute! But so what? They'll contribute something a first year design student would be embarassed to turn in as a weekly project. I would be gasping in astonishment but really on second thought it is so like OSS zealots to do something stupid and totalitarian like this. I neverlike to make broad sweeping statements, but All graphic marks, logos, icons &etc. associated with Linux suck ASS, and the reason, I'm afraid to say, is that Linux people generally don't know enough to know how far out of their element they are in matters graphical or artisitic and fail to recognize that they need someone different to help.
So what's next in the Long March to Purity of Essence ?
Apache webservers that will stop serving pages created by Dreamweaver or other non-OSS programs?
Hey LSB! why not just put a big stamp on everything you do that goes out in the world to be seen that says "We're unprofessional, that's right! We don't care what is best. We're simply about inbred purity.
We are not an official industry-standards body with standing to be reckoned with, we're just an informal bunch of busybodies who send out nuisance flyers occasionally when we aren't trying to kill each other. Dismiss us! ".
Hey Nick Petreley! Way to tell the commercial software world how welcome they are in the Linux market! Way to go buddy!
Most of the people who're interested in a lightweight task-specific net station already own PCs and have an ISP. None of which are they prepared to toss out for something as limited as an iOpener or for Internet service that's bought bulk rate from no-name, local ISPs and channelled through the hardware maker's portal.
Not saying local off-brand ISPs can't be good.
What they need to do is sell inet appliances that can integrate with what you already have. (PC, LAN, ISP of customer's choosing) and offer addon software- think: X-11 and tarantella, that allow users to easily run applications over the LAN on their main PC and display/control them from the inet appliance.
All the pieces to do this are in existence already. However, the way copro-rate America seems to want to deal with this capability is by blunting its edge. they talk a big game about how powerful and liberating the tech is, but what they do is to force consumers into a rent-to-own situation where they must write monthly checks for their services. And to make up for the coercive choice-free nature of their product, they dress it up with a lot of useless whizz-bang -think: inet appliance ISP portals, think MSN & .NET.
Not surprisingly, the target audience is turned-off. The manufacturers can't get to the regular people because the early adopter types are not attracted to this kind of crap. (Unless they can hack it to do what they want and it represents a savings of space or dollars over a regular lowend PC).
The problem is that the engineers can't get past the marketting ghouls and convince management to make products that people really want.
Once again, that address for aspalliance.com is 166.82.12.4 Be sure and let them know how you feel ;-)
Just curious about what seems to be a "magical talisman" theory.
My impression -and i could simply be misled by my local news!- is that the police tend not to go away when the induhvidual reponds to the warrant by brandishing a firearm. In fact, far from turning around and leaving, police all over the area seem to discover a renewed and invigorated interest in the brandishing induhvidual. But that's only my impression. The gun-toting among us no doubt have kept very scrupulous records on these situations and their outcomes.
What must the score be up to about now?
Police:0,
gun brandishing, warrant repudiating residents: 117,355 ?
What? You say it's the other way round? Can't be!
WHoops, in "olden dayes" people in your village who knew you and talked *might* have to care about your response to what they said about you. They knew you and you knew them. They would even forget some things they knew about you over time. But today, there's no symmetry to that relationship at all. They know all about you from the extensive shared archived indexed and crossreferenced databases of your retail purchases, services are billed for, your demographic profile, your zipcode, your medical history, and all the same data that pertains to people related to you. And you don't have any idea who "they" are. They will be companies like TRW, and WHOEVER pays for the data. Genetic cross referencing of data obtained by insurers on behalf of your employers is how far off would you guess? 5 years? 10 years ? And no bit of data and no conclusion based on a derived profile no matter how erroneous will ever be forgotten.
Gee, on second thought maybe it isn't one fucking bit like the olden days! Hmmm?
How many cases did the US gov't prosecute against General Electric in the 70s and 80s --blowing off toxic waste cleanup regs, lying to gov't regulators, fraud and overbilling (overbillioning) on defense contracts, etc.-- and did Uncle Sam stop buying from GE even for a moment, a corporation which, if it were a person living in California, would now be in jail for life? (3 strikes)
There are many advantages to being a monopoly power- being a power to be reckoned with is probably first, even before profits. Besides that, in other gov't dept.s than the DoJ, MSFT is still regarded as a cool up and coming software company that is among the very few comapines they would trust to write a large complex networked accounting system in a reasonable time frame.
Killing off your competitors may have some long term risks, but you can see for yourself how handsomely it returns in the short run.
False. A sizeable chunk of the voters (37%) put his party in powerful position in the Reichstag, though not in anything approaching absolute power. It would not reach that level of support again in any subsequent free elections. The next free election the Nazis lost over 30 seats. A cabal of bankers and industrialists (led by Schact and Thyssen) hereditary land magnates (Von Papen) and old-skool generals ( Von Ludendorff) prevailed upon the old but legitimately elected President P. Von Hindenburg, who disliked and feared Hitler, to make Hitler Chancellor of the Reich. After becoming Chancellor Hitler used the massive intimidating street presence of the SA and SS (Nazi paramilitary groups) to rig the next election. Remind you of recent scenes in the County Courthouses down in Florida ? Well, the resemblance is there if slight; you have to remember that the Nazis paramilitaries were already rioting against Jews, COmmunists, Socialists, Union officials, unfriendly journalists in the street, sometimes even beating them to death in broad daylight, sometimes if they felt the need for stealth they killed them at night in their homes. There was no election after Hitler's grab for the Chancellorship that could be called legitimate. The Chancellorship had attached to it, through the constitution, the power to declare a state of national emergency. Hitler had his unfairly elected goons (STILL not an outright majority) in the Reichstag pass the Enabling Act, expanding that power to essentially mean anything at all at his discretion and therefore his Party's institutions such as the Brown Shirted SA and the SS became organs of Law enforcement. Hindenburg died and Hitler used the unbounded powers given to him by his jackboot parliament to abolish the office of President (which precisely because it required a MAJORITY of the popular vote, was a position Hitler could never win - sound familiar?) The powers of the presidency which derived directly from the people in plenary Hitler simply absorbed by fiat.
Then they burned the Reichstag building down to make sure noone dared to attempt a reversal of the new "arrangements" through democratic parliamentary manoeuvre. Parties which could never be amenable to Nazi rule - the Socialists, The KPD were outlawed (sound familiar?). Jews were officially expelled from public life. Trade Unions were abolished. It was morning, again, in the Reich. BTW: No one was more contemptuous of majority rule than Mr. Schicklegruber. Libertarians --5th grade level civics, but PhDs in Revisionist History.
The barbarians forgot the first rule of barabrians and did not attack.
That was their first mistake, for which we have paid a higher and higher price every year since.
By the way, have you ever encountered the topic of degree - y'know like MORE and LESS ...
As in more dangerous or less dangerous -or, say-
more likely or less likely
Hmmm??
Hah! Tell that to the capitalists. For that matter, tell it to Adam Smith, who once said that, when businessmen of the same trade are ever in each others' company, sooner or later the talk turns to how they can combine or enter into a pricing cartel.
Tell it to Replislimes who would sell your freedom, and your ass along with it, to any multi-national corporation no matter how foreign or domestic, no matter how solvent or insolvent, in the name of laissez-fuckover capitalism.
A fig for your "capitalism" sir - a roasted fart for your capitalism!
Putting civilian aircraft to military use is very dangerous to civilians. Use a c-141 or another heavy lifter.
You're wasting your breath if argue with this guy - if you've been following this site for long you'd know that his job is to talk shit about Linux here.
I don't want to say anything that would be misleading, but i believe the official line from Apple is that OSX will install on beige G3's or later. Now, I think there's a gray area though in that statement because what it may effectively mean is that Apple's own target for guaranteed, no-worries installation is G3's and up - but it may be possible to install on other machines via the unsupported install option. You may/may not have weird intermittent isoluable problems by choosing to do so, so (I would) wait a while after the official release and check boards like xlr8yourmac and others for success stories and caveats.
Seriously.
They got this great thing called LinuxBIOS developed in part at Los Alamos, but damn if you kin find anybody using it to make SBC linboxes (the obvious thing to do). No, everbuddy's got to have their own Gigantor-Beowulf clusters these days - no luv for the SBC and the lowly LAN station. I say the world don't need no more nuclear simulations than it's already got...what we need is cheapo linboxes that boot up in < 3 sec. with / on a flashdisk, and that mount /homer from the old 30gig PC down the hall. ALL the parts are there waiting to be used, but only MSFT and cronies are using them.
I want whatever it is that you're smoking... The Appellate level (Raygun appointed) and the Supreme Court (Satan-spawned) need only the slightest indications of acquiescence from Ashcroft -or whoever AttyGen. turns out to be.
Expect a reversal on appeal and no follow-on appeal to the SCOTUS. You're deep in pleasant dreams if you imagine that that case could still be alive.
More like they want to destroy the `net with MS tech, keep open the one viable part left -based on their software, with their ticketbooths and machinegun towers- and meter access to the rest of the world.
Bring me the head of Gill Bates!
And then alongside X, something that actually _does the job_ in a competent and polished manner. Like Quartz.
Seriously, why not have both ? CLick X-11. Click back to Quartz. MI/X Xserver for Mac worked like that, except it was unmaintained crap. Tenon's Xtools might be even better as a model since they nest X-11 app windows with the Apple Coregraphics server. Anyway, the future of newtworked applications is clearly not in pushing pixels or pushing drawing primitives down the wire at clients, is it? It's already XML, and even html interfaces, Java, and Corba compponents.
X is certainly not useless, yet, but it's basic premises even the ones behind its virtues, are being superceded even as its rough spots are shown up more and more by so-called stupid people's OS.
Exemplary graphics applications just will not come to Linux with the graphics of X as they are, that much should be clear by now. (No, 3d apps using OpenGL don't count - they push X aside in order to get at the hardware direcl;ty) XFree86 on OSX and especially Xtools shows the way it could be better for Linux in the future or could have been already if people had been planning ahead for a Linux worthy of workstation/desktop use.
I don't see why the argument is tired just because it HAS BEEN TRUE FOR A LONG TIME, nor why he should drop it. I don't really care what your KDE2 desktop looks like - I have seen FM for Linux and just like EVERY other graphics app on Linux it looks like complete shit while in use. The drawing primitives are well, primitive and there's no antialiasing to smoothe out the ugliness. I can promise you that if (all other things being equal) you tried to force workers in the primary DTP, prepress and graphic design markets for this kind of application, say you owned a Printer's or a graphic design firm, to use non-antialiased versions of the OS's they currently use, or tried to foist some OS chained to X11 upon them, they would leave your employment for the next available opportunity in their field. And no one who understands how they work would blame them.
I do. I hope rob never forgets...
(Still AC && Still proud of it!)
Web based banking over ssl, and downloading transactions to a personal finance app are different subjects that should be considered separately--I don't see that going on in this discussion. My experience is that most of the major banks that I would choose from to handle my accounts, already do web-based online banking just fine. Looking at the comments here I see that there are a few exceptions in the world. But there is an EASY solution to this problem: don't bank with these fuckhead companies and be sure to tell them why you're withdrawing all your money.
That leaves the second problem: none of the banks, Netscape friendly or otherwise, currently allow direct, online banking from your personal finance app -unless it is Quicken or Money on Mac or Windows. Currently all banks screw over Linux/BSD/SOlaris/etc. users. And also they screw over the many Macintosh users who have sworn to never be reamed by Intuit again like they were by the Y2K bug in Quicken for Mac. Mac being a Y2K safe platform, this failure was just an intolerable example of shoddiness, and I certainly understand a Mac user vowing never to buy an Intuit product again.
It has also not yet been said that there's NO GOOD REASON for this exclusiveness and active discrimination. The data format that direct online banking uses is Open and documented. It's called OFX. You can look it up and build your own client for it.
And there is ALSO a Java application available right now to download and enter your OFX formatted data to your machine regardless of whether you use Windows, Mac, Linux, *BSD, Solaris or any other OS with a upto date JAVA VM. It's called Moneydance --specifically the 3.0ALPHA version.
It's not in the regular download area yet for Moneydance at www.seanreilley.com/moneydance. You have to ask for it, but it does exist and I suspect its ALPLHA status has mainly to do with the refusal of the banks to connect to their online servers. You will also have to pay 25 dollars to enable the OFX banking features it has. Otherwise you can use it free of charge.
It is this refusal by the banks to allow non-Intuit non-MS clients to connect that has to be focussed on and overcome. A FTC investigation into cartel style collusion between Intuit and the banks might not be too wacky of an idea at some point. ALways remember this--YOU ARE THE CUSTOMER! And you are NOT asking them to do something special for you.
PLease contact your bank's online banking dept. (that little button that says "contact us") and request that Moneydance be allowed to connect to their servers-whether you actually plan to buy the fully function Moneydance 3 or not. There is no other way yet availble for you to do direct online banking from Linux or BSD and if they are blocking a closed source commercial Java app that is OFX compliant they will certainly block GnuCash when/if OFX support is added to it. You don't get your rights by always being polite and non-confrontational. It can be easy to forget that movements like the civil rights push in the 60s pissed off and upset a lot of semi-well meaning white people who were not overtly racist and didn't actively support apartheid laws and parties. We have rushed to smoothe over the rougher edges in our cultural memory, but if you look back at the documents of the civil rights era, you can see that civil rights were not achieved by saintly black people sending in a few well-written, poignant essays into their local newspapers editorial section and parading quietly and dispersing when told to by the police. Sometimes you do have to get in their faces and demand fair and equal treatment.
That was Dell. Maybe just a coincidence, but you're right--they lost the bid, and announced they'd be embracing linux/X 100% like a week or two later.
They have lost all credibility with me and i can't imagine the scenario that reverses that.
Bottomline: as a customer, Ican't trust this company. My use of Linux is not going to held hostage to one company's schedule for driver revisions--especially one that gives Linux support a priority as low as this company does.
Even without the prospect of a breakup they might have been working on one at a low priority anyway. It would be stupid not to plan for future contingencies. But there's more reason at least for someone to want this to get done quickly.
When MS is broken up, Bill will probably leave with the applications division in his pocket. OS is looking less and less attractive. Win2K is being squeezed from below by Linux and from above by Sun. It will never be the goldmine that Dos/Windos has been. As for that former goldmine, Win9x is the product that's in legal trouble and under scrutiny: dealing with it is just going to get more and more tedious following the settlement/Court Order. Anyway, applications are where it's at profit wise --I thought almost everyone around here agreed that Office is really the basis of the monopoly. And keeping applications under his control keeps Bill mobile in a post-breakup world.
If he wants to remain the Grand Vizier in the future that he has been til now, Bill will abscond with applications and suddenly become Linux's best friend.
Then you will see Bill Gates magically produce "Office for Linux" as if plucked it from under Judge Jackson's robe. At which time, the most common Mac application will be his property, the most common Win32 apps will also be his, and the applications that give Linux the legitimacy to vie at last for world OS dominance will also belong to Bill Gates. During these feats of pretigitation he'll have never left the audience's gaze on center stage for a second, and he should easily find ways to become the biggest beneficiary of the world's "Great March To Linux".
Meanwhile, since that future route (breakup) is not yet necessary, he can slow the adoption of wouldbe competitors in the Linux field. Aren't we just around the corner from Corel's Office2000 for Linux announcement?
When you hear that Microsoft is working on a port of Office for Linux, you can file in it the memory hole--Microsoft may be working on a port, but Microsoft won't be a company anymore when or if this thing is ever released. IOW: it's a vapor announcemnt from a company that hasn't even been born yet. Pure BogeyMan, and nothing to lose sleep over.
Well there's FlightGear . It's not everything, but it's a better sim than many commercial air-combat sims.