it's not the "mess people up" standpoint as much as it is the behavioral control standpoint. as one po ster above posited "buy a microsoft product, get an orgasm". I'm more scared of the "disagree with [insert current political leader here], get a nasty shock" aspect (or, "agree with [same] get an orgasm.". perhaps the FCC would try to mandate shock jocks get them implanted so any use of "vulgar" language or "bad ideas" will get shocks. THAT scares the hell out of me.
I mean, just the other day I was saying "Alwa-AAAAAAHHHHHOOOWWWWWW!!!!!!"
that, I think, is exactly the point he was making. and it's exactly the point that the bill is assuming. I can tell you...this becoming nationallly mandated would be the final trigger that got me to move to canada.
unfortunately, they have a much LARGER marketshare (Than jabber, at least) - but you're right, their share would grow faster, and we'd be far less pissy w/them all the time. I mean, most geeks that dislike M$ still praise the things they DO do well. I have two microsoft mice and a microsoft keyboard. you couldn't get me to run windows if you paid me, but I like some of their hardware. and as much of a living hell as exchange is to administer, it's a good idea in theory if not always in execution. so yah, maybe they should drop their "lock in" paradigm. unfortunately, it's so entrenched in Bill Gates' way of thinking that they company will likely die first. heh...Microsoft of the Endless - where a company learns that it must change or die, and makes its decision. (apologies to Messr. Gaiman)
I've got developers that need to have a consistent home directory over several unix and windows boxes - we're using samba *and* nfs - an ugly system at best. I'm currently in the situation where I can start over, more or less, so I'm looking at better options. any suggestions are appreciated.
actually, you can upgrade or change plans at any time. at month 11, though, they've usually got some really nifty deals for you. I hadn't realized my contract was up and called to see what kind of upgrades I had available. I'm upgrading for free from a nokia 3390 to a 3595. color screen, internet, etc. I'm dropping my 500sms message deal ($2.99/mo) in favor of unlimited t-zones (internet on the phone for $4.99). so I'm increasing my bill by $2.00 a month and getting a TON more out of it.
no - a net framework to run net apps would be fine. but the gnome desktop suite to run gnome-calculator is bloat. (note: I don't know if the situation is THIS bad, but it was close for a while. maybe it's better, but I stopped running gnome after it kept crashing X for me. (I know, that means a bug in X. still, doesn't functionally make a difference.))
this is EXACTLY what I'm talking about. a note of interest - the IM client I was using (Everybuddy) has ceased updates to their main body of code and is going back to the drawing board to do exactly this (without the middleware part). Because I was so used to the "is it gnome? is it kde? what?" issue, I was afraid (since I saw the first frontend they were writing for it was Qt) that I was going to have to go get all the Qt stuff - and then read on and realized what was happening. very nifty. Thanks for illustrating (very clearly) what I was trying to say (very clumsily)...
you miss my point. I'm not saying it doesn't work. I don't have any "problems" as such, and I MUCH prefer it to the Microsoft option. Or the mac option. or most any other option. But at the same time, it's frustrating to have so much EXTRA stuff installed that I don't need. it's like buying groceries - say you want to broil a steak. simple, yes? not if the meat makers set it up that you have to buy the whole cow when all you want is steaks. Over time, you'll probably use it (assuming there's no rot, but this is a methaphor, so we'll ignore that). But what about the people that just want steaks over and over again? it's a lot of extra junk.
ah - and to explain why this is relevant - newb users are going to be really confused (I've seen it) when they go "but why do I have to install this whole set of gnome stuff to run [program]?".
is that there are lots of apps out there that just don't work well without certain UI things installed. I don't have a MAJOR problem with this, but for a while there it was REALLY frustrating to find an app the was KDE only and required the installation of all the KDE libraries and Qt widgets etc. just for a little POS progream. Understand, this was back when I had a 1GB hard drive, and installing all this junk was taking up a lot of room for me - but even now, it just feels like a lot of bloat. Don't get me wrong - I'm not any bigger a fan of Gnome. I don't use either. I do, however, like GTK. as such, I'm far more likely to install the gnome stuff than the KDE stuff. what would be NICE is if gnome and kde were more like "skins" - write a program, include the hooks - and depending on whether someone is using gnome or kde, it comes up as gnome or kde. I know this isn't how these things are written, and this'll never happen, but it'd be nice.
we're about near the bottom of the page - "Chris and Sabrina, Manassas VA."
We've since moved, but anyway.
What they say is "'til starlight's end, we two are bound in love", and the elven translation is "silme mettanna, nalwe oyatana melmesse". If anyone considers that "incorrect", bite me. no offense. I had the help of a mailing list full of linguists who love quenya. in the end, they told me that what I wanted was theoretically exactly that, but that it was debatable.
so I noticed. I'm thinking that some of the rules are really quite good. I've always WANTED to play a bard, but they're really difficult to justify. If you've got a Rogue and a Sorceror (or any other kind of magic user) a bard is really just a red-headed stepchild. This should really give them a little more "reason to be". Anyway, thanks to all for bringing me around. That 40 page pdf should be good enough for me - hope it comes out soon.
I was just getting to the point where I was going to start a campaign...so it's evil in that right. More to the point, this is saying that to jump to the 3.5 rules, you're going to have to buy the 3rd edition rules AND the 3.5 rules - ergo, not only is the price increased $10/book, that's in ADDITION to the original books. we're looking at >$100 outlay just for the first three core books (given that I assume the 3E &3.5 to be one "book")
Congratulations! My wife and I had some major issues (about the most painful thing you can think of happened) just before the wedding, but we worked through it and we're now happier than ever and loving it. If you really love her and asked her to marry you because you wanted to, you'll be happier than you can possibly imagine.
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I don't think he meant "replacing windows with linux". My father uses windows...he's got to reinstall at least once a year.
since when can a tan be green?
isn't a tan, by definition, a shade of brown?
it seems like this is all in good fun...
it's nice to see good-natured rivalry based on merits rather than name-calling and finger pointing.
umm....my gmail account has a forward button.....
don't even start. I'm living in sharepoint hell right now.
it's not the "mess people up" standpoint as much as it is the behavioral control standpoint. as one po ster above posited "buy a microsoft product, get an orgasm". I'm more scared of the "disagree with [insert current political leader here], get a nasty shock" aspect (or, "agree with [same] get an orgasm.". perhaps the FCC would try to mandate shock jocks get them implanted so any use of "vulgar" language or "bad ideas" will get shocks. THAT scares the hell out of me.
I mean, just the other day I was saying "Alwa-AAAAAAHHHHHOOOWWWWWW!!!!!!"
that, I think, is exactly the point he was making. and it's exactly the point that the bill is assuming. I can tell you...this becoming nationallly mandated would be the final trigger that got me to move to canada.
did he say that the pied piper's name is peter? as in peter piper? the guy who picked a peck of pickled peppers?
unfortunately, they have a much LARGER marketshare (Than jabber, at least) - but you're right, their share would grow faster, and we'd be far less pissy w/them all the time. I mean, most geeks that dislike M$ still praise the things they DO do well. I have two microsoft mice and a microsoft keyboard. you couldn't get me to run windows if you paid me, but I like some of their hardware. and as much of a living hell as exchange is to administer, it's a good idea in theory if not always in execution. so yah, maybe they should drop their "lock in" paradigm. unfortunately, it's so entrenched in Bill Gates' way of thinking that they company will likely die first.
heh...Microsoft of the Endless - where a company learns that it must change or die, and makes its decision. (apologies to Messr. Gaiman)
I've got developers that need to have a consistent home directory over several unix and windows boxes - we're using samba *and* nfs - an ugly system at best. I'm currently in the situation where I can start over, more or less, so I'm looking at better options. any suggestions are appreciated.
actually, you can upgrade or change plans at any time. at month 11, though, they've usually got some really nifty deals for you. I hadn't realized my contract was up and called to see what kind of upgrades I had available. I'm upgrading for free from a nokia 3390 to a 3595. color screen, internet, etc. I'm dropping my 500sms message deal ($2.99/mo) in favor of unlimited t-zones (internet on the phone for $4.99). so I'm increasing my bill by $2.00 a month and getting a TON more out of it.
augggh....beat me to it. 'course you forgot the obligatory reference to the goatse.cx man.
I'm not!
no - a net framework to run net apps would be fine.
but the gnome desktop suite to run gnome-calculator is bloat. (note: I don't know if the situation is THIS bad, but it was close for a while. maybe it's better, but I stopped running gnome after it kept crashing X for me. (I know, that means a bug in X. still, doesn't functionally make a difference.))
this is EXACTLY what I'm talking about. a note of interest - the IM client I was using (Everybuddy) has ceased updates to their main body of code and is going back to the drawing board to do exactly this (without the middleware part). Because I was so used to the "is it gnome? is it kde? what?" issue, I was afraid (since I saw the first frontend they were writing for it was Qt) that I was going to have to go get all the Qt stuff - and then read on and realized what was happening. very nifty. Thanks for illustrating (very clearly) what I was trying to say (very clumsily)...
you miss my point. I'm not saying it doesn't work. I don't have any "problems" as such, and I MUCH prefer it to the Microsoft option. Or the mac option. or most any other option. But at the same time, it's frustrating to have so much EXTRA stuff installed that I don't need. it's like buying groceries - say you want to broil a steak. simple, yes? not if the meat makers set it up that you have to buy the whole cow when all you want is steaks. Over time, you'll probably use it (assuming there's no rot, but this is a methaphor, so we'll ignore that). But what about the people that just want steaks over and over again? it's a lot of extra junk.
ah - and to explain why this is relevant - newb users are going to be really confused (I've seen it) when they go "but why do I have to install this whole set of gnome stuff to run [program]?".
is that there are lots of apps out there that just don't work well without certain UI things installed. I don't have a MAJOR problem with this, but for a while there it was REALLY frustrating to find an app the was KDE only and required the installation of all the KDE libraries and Qt widgets etc. just for a little POS progream. Understand, this was back when I had a 1GB hard drive, and installing all this junk was taking up a lot of room for me - but even now, it just feels like a lot of bloat. Don't get me wrong - I'm not any bigger a fan of Gnome. I don't use either. I do, however, like GTK. as such, I'm far more likely to install the gnome stuff than the KDE stuff. what would be NICE is if gnome and kde were more like "skins" - write a program, include the hooks - and depending on whether someone is using gnome or kde, it comes up as gnome or kde. I know this isn't how these things are written, and this'll never happen, but it'd be nice.
when designing my wedding rings.
the link is at this page:
http://5xj.com/goodell46.html
we're about near the bottom of the page - "Chris and Sabrina, Manassas VA."
We've since moved, but anyway.
What they say is "'til starlight's end, we two are bound in love", and the elven translation is "silme mettanna, nalwe oyatana melmesse". If anyone considers that "incorrect", bite me. no offense. I had the help of a mailing list full of linguists who love quenya. in the end, they told me that what I wanted was theoretically exactly that, but that it was debatable.
so I noticed. I'm thinking that some of the rules are really quite good. I've always WANTED to play a bard, but they're really difficult to justify. If you've got a Rogue and a Sorceror (or any other kind of magic user) a bard is really just a red-headed stepchild. This should really give them a little more "reason to be". Anyway, thanks to all for bringing me around. That 40 page pdf should be good enough for me - hope it comes out soon.
whoops...my bad, I think - I read his description of the "accessory update" book as relating to *all* the books.
I was just getting to the point where I was going to start a campaign...so it's evil in that right. More to the point, this is saying that to jump to the 3.5 rules, you're going to have to buy the 3rd edition rules AND the 3.5 rules - ergo, not only is the price increased $10/book, that's in ADDITION to the original books. we're looking at >$100 outlay just for the first three core books (given that I assume the 3E &3.5 to be one "book")
no - worse. and more in the "destruction of trust and intimacy" category.
heh...my words and thoughts and feelings almost exactly. (as far as three months out)
Congratulations! My wife and I had some major issues (about the most painful thing you can think of happened) just before the wedding, but we worked through it and we're now happier than ever and loving it. If you really love her and asked her to marry you because you wanted to, you'll be happier than you can possibly imagine.