Personally, I'd argue that the 360 Core pack is less wounded than the PS3's "cheap" option.
At least you can add a hard drive if/when you need one to the 360. And the rest of the bits aren't necessarily relevant to you at all - you won't need a headset if you don't want to listen to homophobic teens, the component lead may need to be replaced with a SCART or VGA lead depending on your setup, and you may not need a wireless pad, depending on where you sit.
Meanwhile, there's no way you'll ever get that HDMI port back if you "only" spend 500 on your PS3, and so no way you'll be watching BluRay movies if they start using the ICT flag, nor playing anything at the much-hyped resolution of 1080p, nor even have the option of saving your game status or paid-for content on a removable format should your machine need replacing.
There are myriad ways to do this. I've got a MagicBox, which allows me to connect my Dreamcast, PS2 or Saturn controllers via USB (and works fully with my Dreamcast arcade stick, which is just amazing for MAME), and a JoyBox 13 which does the same for my Gamecube pads (sadly, it won't work with my Wavebird, but it does with my Soul Calibur II stick to allow a second stick player in MAME again).
XBox pads just need a rewiring of the USB lead to work, and wired X360 pads "just work" without having to do anything more complex than ensuring you've got the relevant driver.
No, Immersion have got nothing on them now. That patent dispute was about the old DualShock's inbuilt rumble controller. Which in the PS3 pad has been replaced by the components for the tilt sensing; it's a frankly embarrassing kludge if you ask me.
Well, you won't play those games right away, anyway. Both Final Fantasy and MGS have seen ports to the PC after a period of exclusivity. As does that other big Playstation-shifting series GTA.
As for Gran Turismo, why would you even want to, when SimBin's efforts make GT's handling look like Pole Position?
I like my PS2 a fair bit, and I've probably got the most games for it out of the current consoles I have (not as many as the DC, but then I picked up a lot of those cheap). But I bought it at the thoroughly reasonable price of £169. Not the £425 that this monstrosity will be.
No, I haven't seen the price of an Apple gaming machine. Have you seen them ever make a machine aimed at gaming, rather than a serious high-end graphics workstation that just so happened to have the power to play games as well?
On the other hand, the current iMac range have an X1600, which is rather faster than what I have in my current PC.
For the umpteenth time, they simply don't sell inexpensive versions of their machines. This has been beaten to death a billion times.
Which is why Bootcamp is to impressively tempting. It's not that Apple hardware is insanely expensive per se, but that buying a second box when I still need Windows for a bunch of things that plain don't exist on OSX (tedious things for controlling obscure hardware, games, my Wife's accounting software from work) is a lot of money I don't need to expend when Windows is "good enough".
No, making the audio 5.1 is changing the audio mix. Sure, I'm in a minority by being quite so picky about it (though a large enough minority that the original Academy Award-winning mono track was restored for the second Jaws DVD), but why is changing the sound effects OK if re-doing the visuals isn't?
Why? So those of us who don't feel a big rush to get this, on account of our laserdisc players still working, will feel pressured into getting them 'just in case'.
On the other hand, now he's demonstrated his ability to give in on the issue, I'll be trying to hold off until I ineviatably buy them all over again on a high-def format.
A 3-version box of Blade Runner has been prepped by Warners (Theatrical, "Director's Cut" and an actual new cut by Ridley, rather than what was basically a workprint) for years now. But it's up to its proverbial neck in a legal quagmire, with no sign of a release. At this rate, I doubt it will appear on DVD at all, but make the jump to the next format.
Why would _anyone_ want all the crap preinstalled? I really wish they would offer all their machines without the bloated rubbish that no-one wants. I had to spend ages getting rid of it all for my in-laws.
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Have you seen some of the games coming, though?
I'm getting so excited, I'm really desperate for a Wii now.
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Well, you say that, but their European distributer is Koch Media.
Yes, the moment they start having the same problems that the 360 saw around release, we'll be talking about whethere Koch is releasing enough Wii.
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Or, to pick another Japanese car manufacturer, the rather excellent Toyota MR2 is a problem in France, where merdeux sounds like a fairly 'shit' name for a vehicle.
I know I said of the top of my head, but I really have no idea how I missed London off the list, when one of my friends was on one of the trains, and another got off the bus a couple of stops before. That was pretty scary stuff.
Speaking of Gas and threats to US interests, could you (or someone) explain to me the logic as to the whole UN Iran-threatening thing?
The White House rumbling noises at Iran currently appear to achieve a grand total of two things:
1) The Iranian Government is getting rave poll results from the population for standing up for the equal right to Nuclear tech.
2) The oil price is going through the roof. 4th largest exporter of oil in the world? Iran.
How is this dissuading them, then? I mean, I can understand the conspiracy theory argument that points out that the 3rd-largest producer of oil is the US, and those production companies are good mates of the Bush family, but there must be more to it than a nice little earner.
"In fact I don't know of any Americans that have died due to terrorists outside of Iraq and Afghanistan."
Were there no Americans caught in the Turkey, Bali, Madrid or Egypt bombings (and that's just off the top of my head)? Because there were plenty of people from your very few allies caught in them.
It's insightful to use the well-known FSM argument as a demonstration of how correlation does not mean causation.
Further, without wishing to offend any family members of those who lost their lives in the 11/09/01 attacts, or indeed those of the attacks of the Unabomber terrorist, they're pretty isolated incidents. There just isn't enough data to even suggest much of a correlation; the "on American soil" caveat is required because worldwide, terrorist attacks on Western interests are still happening at a greater rate than before.
Jesus wept, you actually liked Angels & Demons? I could just about stomach the level of nonsense in Da Vinci Code, because there were a few half-decent twists that made the ride fun. Angels & Demons was not only in the most painfully inane language I've ever had the misfortune to read in a professionally published novel, but every single twist was clearly signposted so far in advance I could have predicted each scene by about halfway through.
Don't even get me started on his "Hah! I bet you never knew the web was invented outside the US!!!" clever-clever rote explanations of common knowledge, or the world's least plausible physics.
I'll plead the mitigating circumstances that it's not so much the controls that have changed as the new camera making those controls sensible at last, but you're right.
That's a hugely complex argument, though I'd agree.
But why bother? If you're allowed an exemption for games making a political statement, then it's a piece of piss to argue in court that is what the talk-radio station in Vice City is doing.
You see, when I see an Atom that can go round the Top Gear test track in less time than it took either the Carrera GT or the McLaren SLR, I don't think it looks particularly overpriced...
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Personally, I'd argue that the 360 Core pack is less wounded than the PS3's "cheap" option.
At least you can add a hard drive if/when you need one to the 360. And the rest of the bits aren't necessarily relevant to you at all - you won't need a headset if you don't want to listen to homophobic teens, the component lead may need to be replaced with a SCART or VGA lead depending on your setup, and you may not need a wireless pad, depending on where you sit.
Meanwhile, there's no way you'll ever get that HDMI port back if you "only" spend 500 on your PS3, and so no way you'll be watching BluRay movies if they start using the ICT flag, nor playing anything at the much-hyped resolution of 1080p, nor even have the option of saving your game status or paid-for content on a removable format should your machine need replacing.
There are myriad ways to do this. I've got a MagicBox, which allows me to connect my Dreamcast, PS2 or Saturn controllers via USB (and works fully with my Dreamcast arcade stick, which is just amazing for MAME), and a JoyBox 13 which does the same for my Gamecube pads (sadly, it won't work with my Wavebird, but it does with my Soul Calibur II stick to allow a second stick player in MAME again).
XBox pads just need a rewiring of the USB lead to work, and wired X360 pads "just work" without having to do anything more complex than ensuring you've got the relevant driver.
No, Immersion have got nothing on them now. That patent dispute was about the old DualShock's inbuilt rumble controller. Which in the PS3 pad has been replaced by the components for the tilt sensing; it's a frankly embarrassing kludge if you ask me.
Well, you won't play those games right away, anyway. Both Final Fantasy and MGS have seen ports to the PC after a period of exclusivity. As does that other big Playstation-shifting series GTA.
As for Gran Turismo, why would you even want to, when SimBin's efforts make GT's handling look like Pole Position?
I like my PS2 a fair bit, and I've probably got the most games for it out of the current consoles I have (not as many as the DC, but then I picked up a lot of those cheap). But I bought it at the thoroughly reasonable price of £169. Not the £425 that this monstrosity will be.
Hang on a second. I thought that you had to actively defend Trade Marks or you lose them on the grounds they've become a generic term.
In which case, they've left it far, far, FAR too late.
No, I haven't seen the price of an Apple gaming machine. Have you seen them ever make a machine aimed at gaming, rather than a serious high-end graphics workstation that just so happened to have the power to play games as well?
On the other hand, the current iMac range have an X1600, which is rather faster than what I have in my current PC.
Which is why Bootcamp is to impressively tempting. It's not that Apple hardware is insanely expensive per se, but that buying a second box when I still need Windows for a bunch of things that plain don't exist on OSX (tedious things for controlling obscure hardware, games, my Wife's accounting software from work) is a lot of money I don't need to expend when Windows is "good enough".
No, making the audio 5.1 is changing the audio mix. Sure, I'm in a minority by being quite so picky about it (though a large enough minority that the original Academy Award-winning mono track was restored for the second Jaws DVD), but why is changing the sound effects OK if re-doing the visuals isn't?
Pictochat on the DS should definitely be AO by that principle, judging from some of the things I've seen people draw...
Dolby 5.1 was released in 1992. Care to explain how you're going to make "Original Theatrical version, withot any changes" sit with a 5.1 track?
Why? So those of us who don't feel a big rush to get this, on account of our laserdisc players still working, will feel pressured into getting them 'just in case'.
On the other hand, now he's demonstrated his ability to give in on the issue, I'll be trying to hold off until I ineviatably buy them all over again on a high-def format.
A 3-version box of Blade Runner has been prepped by Warners (Theatrical, "Director's Cut" and an actual new cut by Ridley, rather than what was basically a workprint) for years now. But it's up to its proverbial neck in a legal quagmire, with no sign of a release. At this rate, I doubt it will appear on DVD at all, but make the jump to the next format.
Yes. The latest Quake, Call Of Duty and Tony Hawk games are probably the most popular recent titles from them.
Why would _anyone_ want all the crap preinstalled? I really wish they would offer all their machines without the bloated rubbish that no-one wants. I had to spend ages getting rid of it all for my in-laws.
Have you seen some of the games coming, though?
I'm getting so excited, I'm really desperate for a Wii now.
Well, you say that, but their European distributer is Koch Media.
Yes, the moment they start having the same problems that the 360 saw around release, we'll be talking about whethere Koch is releasing enough Wii.
Or, to pick another Japanese car manufacturer, the rather excellent Toyota MR2 is a problem in France, where merdeux sounds like a fairly 'shit' name for a vehicle.
I know I said of the top of my head, but I really have no idea how I missed London off the list, when one of my friends was on one of the trains, and another got off the bus a couple of stops before. That was pretty scary stuff.
Speaking of Gas and threats to US interests, could you (or someone) explain to me the logic as to the whole UN Iran-threatening thing?
The White House rumbling noises at Iran currently appear to achieve a grand total of two things:
1) The Iranian Government is getting rave poll results from the population for standing up for the equal right to Nuclear tech.
2) The oil price is going through the roof. 4th largest exporter of oil in the world? Iran.
How is this dissuading them, then? I mean, I can understand the conspiracy theory argument that points out that the 3rd-largest producer of oil is the US, and those production companies are good mates of the Bush family, but there must be more to it than a nice little earner.
"In fact I don't know of any Americans that have died due to terrorists outside of Iraq and Afghanistan."
Were there no Americans caught in the Turkey, Bali, Madrid or Egypt bombings (and that's just off the top of my head)? Because there were plenty of people from your very few allies caught in them.
It's insightful to use the well-known FSM argument as a demonstration of how correlation does not mean causation.
Further, without wishing to offend any family members of those who lost their lives in the 11/09/01 attacts, or indeed those of the attacks of the Unabomber terrorist, they're pretty isolated incidents. There just isn't enough data to even suggest much of a correlation; the "on American soil" caveat is required because worldwide, terrorist attacks on Western interests are still happening at a greater rate than before.
Jesus wept, you actually liked Angels & Demons? I could just about stomach the level of nonsense in Da Vinci Code, because there were a few half-decent twists that made the ride fun. Angels & Demons was not only in the most painfully inane language I've ever had the misfortune to read in a professionally published novel, but every single twist was clearly signposted so far in advance I could have predicted each scene by about halfway through.
Don't even get me started on his "Hah! I bet you never knew the web was invented outside the US!!!" clever-clever rote explanations of common knowledge, or the world's least plausible physics.
It's a fair cop, guvnah.
I'll plead the mitigating circumstances that it's not so much the controls that have changed as the new camera making those controls sensible at last, but you're right.
That's a hugely complex argument, though I'd agree.
But why bother? If you're allowed an exemption for games making a political statement, then it's a piece of piss to argue in court that is what the talk-radio station in Vice City is doing.
You see, when I see an Atom that can go round the Top Gear test track in less time than it took either the Carrera GT or the McLaren SLR, I don't think it looks particularly overpriced...