There's great advantage for me in having a Linux port, because my network card is very flakey under 'doze (it's a Netgear from PC World, so you'd think it would work OK) and the driver seems to hang after about 5 minutes of network play.
Under Linux, the card runs flawlessly. If it weren't for Loki's port of Q3, I'd never experience the delights of fragging somebody from halfway around the world.
I'm looking forward to getting Rune as well. I could've bought the Windows version when it came out, but I waited for the Linux port instead.
I hope Loki can get out of their financial problems, the more money they have, hopefully the quicker they can get games out the door, and capture more of the dual boot market.
You are Valter Marcus Hilgen and I demand my $5 (US) !!
Shouldn't they fix the bugs in gnome first ?
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I'm probably going to get flamed for this, but anyway, I have been trying to get gnome working on my Linux box for weeks. After compiling package after package, I am now stuck. I need to compile libOrbit, but whenever I try I get:
gcc -g -O2 -o.libs/name-client name-client.o../../../src/orb/.libs/libORBit.so -L/usr/lib -lglib -lm../../../src/IIOP/.libs/libIIOP.so../../../src/ORBitutil/.libs/libORBitutil.so.libs/libORBitCosNaming.so -L/usr/lib -lglib -lm -Wl,--rpath -Wl,/usr/local/lib
../../../src/IIOP/.libs/libIIOP.so: undefined reference to `res_init'
collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
make[4]: *** [name-client] Error 1
I've logged the problem with the gnome team, but have got no reply. Well great. I can't use gnome on my system.
The NS 4.x codebase was fucked almost beyond repair (partly I believe because NS was trying to keep up with all the proprietary changes that MS were making to HTML).
So Netscape gave it away. Then after a year or so, they realised that instead of trying to fix it, it would be easier to start again from scratch. Hence NS 6.
But the mozilla team have consistently stated that if mozilla were not based on XUL, there would have been no Linux version.
Besides, it makes sense from a programming perspective - you *should* abstract out the interface from the computational part of the program. It also makes porting to a new platform dead easy, you can simply use whatever graphical toolkit is already existent on that platfrom, and just write a compatibility layer.
And as for the responsiveness issue, personally I find no difference between native windows apps and mozilla and native linux apps and mozilla.
Plus I am sure that there will still be a few optimisations before a 1.0 release. If you knew anything about software development (which you appear not to) you would realise that the standard process is:
1) get something that works, so that people can start development in other areas
2) once it's working, start to optimise it, preferably without changing the interfaces.
I remember back when M16 came out people were saying mozilla was a POS, it was time to bury the project, it would never be usable, etc,etc. As somebody who'd been following the project since the start, I could see that some big optimisations were being a worked on, and mozilla was about to improve radically.
I told people that and was laughed at. But lo and behold, a few months later we got the 0.9.x milestones and as I predicted mozilla became very usable, to the point where people are now using it in preference to other browsers.
I believe now that many of the big optimisations are done and dusted, we will start to see a lot of the smaller optimisations worked on. The interface will improve, memory usage will go down.
In short, don't write mozilla off because it doesn't use native toolsets. Give it a chance, and we will see what happens before 1.0 comes out.
Excuse me, but things like this just make me very angry. How the hell does the ISP know if a file violates copyright or not ?
Surely to prove copyright violation the company holding the copyright would have to prove in court that a particular file was in violation of its copyright.
So I don't see where the ISP comes in to all of this.
...that the lobby groups know that the DMCA will be overturned eventually by the Supreme Court, so they are just trying to prop up their position by spreading the shit as far and as wide as they possibly can before that happens ?
Just as water vapour moving very energetically in clouds produces lightning, I would imagine that colliding gas clouds would cause a lot of unimaginably intense electric charges.
These clouds are also a plasma similar to the inside of a fluorescent tube, so the lightning would cause very intense bright flashes.
Imagine the night sky being lit up by hundreds or thousands of bright flashes.
Reminds me of something funny that happened one time when I was in the US. I was in a bar which had a micro-brewery. A guy walked in and asked the bar keeper "what have you got that's like Budweiser ?". I turned round to him and suggested a pint of water.
Works fine with Moz.
n/t
Under Linux, the card runs flawlessly. If it weren't for Loki's port of Q3, I'd never experience the delights of fragging somebody from halfway around the world.
I'm looking forward to getting Rune as well. I could've bought the Windows version when it came out, but I waited for the Linux port instead.
I hope Loki can get out of their financial problems, the more money they have, hopefully the quicker they can get games out the door, and capture more of the dual boot market.
Will we end up with four mini Microsofts ?
I meant Hilden - sorry.
You are Valter Marcus Hilgen and I demand my $5 (US) !!
gcc -g -O2 -o
../../../src/IIOP/.libs/libIIOP.so: undefined reference to `res_init'
collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
make[4]: *** [name-client] Error 1
I've logged the problem with the gnome team, but have got no reply. Well great. I can't use gnome on my system.
If the trend from the last three months continues, we will soon be seeing Brazil overtake the US in terms of new registrants.
That's why I said 'partly'. Can't you read ?
The NS 4.x codebase was fucked almost beyond repair (partly I believe because NS was trying to keep up with all the proprietary changes that MS were making to HTML).
So Netscape gave it away. Then after a year or so, they realised that instead of trying to fix it, it would be easier to start again from scratch. Hence NS 6.
Besides, it makes sense from a programming perspective - you *should* abstract out the interface from the computational part of the program. It also makes porting to a new platform dead easy, you can simply use whatever graphical toolkit is already existent on that platfrom, and just write a compatibility layer.
And as for the responsiveness issue, personally I find no difference between native windows apps and mozilla and native linux apps and mozilla.
Plus I am sure that there will still be a few optimisations before a 1.0 release. If you knew anything about software development (which you appear not to) you would realise that the standard process is:
1) get something that works, so that people can start development in other areas
2) once it's working, start to optimise it, preferably without changing the interfaces.
I remember back when M16 came out people were saying mozilla was a POS, it was time to bury the project, it would never be usable, etc,etc. As somebody who'd been following the project since the start, I could see that some big optimisations were being a worked on, and mozilla was about to improve radically.
I told people that and was laughed at. But lo and behold, a few months later we got the 0.9.x milestones and as I predicted mozilla became very usable, to the point where people are now using it in preference to other browsers.
I believe now that many of the big optimisations are done and dusted, we will start to see a lot of the smaller optimisations worked on. The interface will improve, memory usage will go down.
In short, don't write mozilla off because it doesn't use native toolsets. Give it a chance, and we will see what happens before 1.0 comes out.
Surely to prove copyright violation the company holding the copyright would have to prove in court that a particular file was in violation of its copyright.
So I don't see where the ISP comes in to all of this.
Could it be that ?
I think Woody Allen put it best - "My brain...that's my second favourite organ !"
I would have to take it straight back to the shop.
I wonder how many sales they have lost like this ?
Authentication, identification...well we already have SSL, and browsers which can store personal information locally.
They'll soon find out if they buy an Xbox...
Just as water vapour moving very energetically in clouds produces lightning, I would imagine that colliding gas clouds would cause a lot of unimaginably intense electric charges.
These clouds are also a plasma similar to the inside of a fluorescent tube, so the lightning would cause very intense bright flashes.
Imagine the night sky being lit up by hundreds or thousands of bright flashes.
For some odd reason, he didn't get the joke...
(The bar keeper did though !)