Don't know about the 50Hz vs 60Hz thing - although I can tell you that as a citizen of a 50Hz country I notice low-level 60Hz hum, whereas I can't normally hear 50Hz hum.
However, I suspect you're on to something with transformer hum. Or, more specifically, general low-level noise. My story:
After some fairly major work-related stress, I found I just couldn't sleep properly. Tried the usual things - traditional & non-traditional drugs, meditation, etc - nothing worked for long. But I noticed on some nights I slept much better than others. After a few months I noticed the nights I slept better were the nights when the computers, 2 and 3 rooms away from my bedroom (with closed doors between me and them), were turned off.
Note that these machines are all built to be low-noise - Antec Sonata cases, large low-speed thermostat controlled fans, Zalman heatsinks, low-noise PSUs, etc. They're quiet - in normal use, sitting in front of them, they're barely audible. I definitely couldn't consciously hear them from my bedroom, even in the dead of night. But there was a definite correlation between whether they were on or off, and my sleep quality. Not (consciously) psychosomatic either - remember, it was only after I noticed variations in my sleep quality that I found it correlated to whether they were turned on or off.
Since then, I turn off everything that makes noise, no matter how low level. Computers (unless they're processing something), PVR (unless it's recording something), printer, computer speakers - basically everything that doesn't need to run overnight. I've noticed a definite improvement in my sleep quality (and general stress levels too). Yes, I'm prepared to accept that this part of it could be psychosomatic. But, if it helps me sleep better, I don't give a damn...
So, from my little ad-hoc experiment, I'm quite prepared to believe that continuous low-level noise - or possibly even EM fields - at subconscious levels can have a detrimental affect.
Call me a hypersensitive freak, call me self-deluding, call me a fringe-dwelling tree-hugging anti-technology neo-luddite. I don't care. I'll be sleeping well tonight...
I'm with Bill Hicks on this one: all marketeers, salesdroids and advertisers should kill themselves.
Wouldn't work. Know why?
They'd spin it. The story wouldn't be "advertisers kill themselves", it'd be "self-regulation" by a "responsible" industry is "creating new opportunities" for "up and coming entrants", giving you, the consumer, a "better experience" and "wider choices" while "opening previously untapped potentials" through "innovative new techniques".
Personally, I think all universities should be equipped with gas-powered showers for the exclusive use of marketing and corporate psychology students. With big signs over the doors that say things like "Exclusive!" and "A once-in-a-lifetime experience!"...
Then what do you propose as a way the companies that deliver the websites you visit and block ads from should cover the costs they have for serving their content to you, plus a little profit ?
I propose that, if they really want to deliver their content, they just suck it up and absorb the cost themselves.
If you really want to deliver something on the web, then do it. Notice "making somebody else pay for it" is not part of the equation.
Where in your constitution does it say "A free market, being necessary to the making of money, the right of companies to advertise shall not be infringed"?
Cool! As fate would have it, I've just spent the last day playing the original Railroad Tycoon under Petit Dosbox on my Mac!
(It's a little choppy on my 800MHz G4 though - gameplay is OK, but the sound clicks about once every 10 seconds. Still totally playable. And I'd forgotten about the $32 million 'bug'...)
I'm essentially kept out of being part of the solution, because I cannot agree with either of the two empowered sides who are *entirely* unable to create solutions for the problems we have.
And the other part of the problem is that, as a country, you have been brainwashed into believing that voting for a "3rd party candidate" is "wasting your vote".
Bullshit. It doesn't help that your federal democracy has been structured so that you have party-based elections in everything but name only. It's interesting to note that it's theoretically possible in your democracy to have party A control the Congress, party B control the Senate, and a representative of party C as President.
That's something nearly unique - it could never happen in a Westminster democracy. And, even more interestingly, in the few countries which have a presidential democracy similar to yours, it's not that uncommon to have a President who doesn't belong to the party controlling the lower house.
Or, in far fewer words, the only reason to believe that voting for a 3rd party wastes your vote is because the other 2 parties have convinced you of this "fact".
(A far bigger problem, IMNSHO, is of course the continued illusion that your President has "the power". That's bullshit too. In a real democracy, the government has the power - the President is just the instrument through which the power is funneled. But the American belief is that the President himself is The Power, who can bring times of plenty, create world peace, and quite possibly - like mythical kings of old - cure baldness and scrofula.
Maybe it's time to ignore the man, and take a good look behind the curtain...)
1 Iraqis trying to free their homeland 2 Foreigners trying to help Iraqis free their homeland 3 Sunni Iraqis who know that if the new government succeeds, they lose the privileges they had under Saddam. 4 Foreign Sunnis trying to help group 3. 5,6 Iraqis and foreigners who just want to try and kill Americans.
I can have respect for groups 1 and 2, but not the rest.
So, how does 3 really differ from 1? Only in the definition of "free", as far as I can see. And, I can bet that the average Iraqi's definition of "free" is different from yours (which is different again from the the definition of "free" the American government wants to see there)
And if 3 is really the equivalent of 1, so it follows 4 is the equivalent of 2. Which leaves:
1 Locals trying to free themselves 2 Outsiders helping them 3 People who want to kill Americans
But you're limiting yourself to "insurgents", and leaving out the most important part - the (probably large) percentage of others that just wish everybody else would stop fucking them around, so they can go back to trying to live their lives again.
Things might have been bad under Hussein, there might have been a small chance they'd get dragged off in the middle of the night and shot, or locked up in a cell with a big Moorish guy called Ahbubba - but at least they weren't being shot at / blown up by both sides...
IIRC, there was an Asimov story (Evidence? The Evitable Conflict?) where it was discussed whether observed 3-law-consistent behaviour indicated a robot or just a very good human being...
As for "the robot must know it's a robot", no. If it has the 3 laws, it must follow them. That's why they're not called "The 3 guidelines to follow if you want to" of robotics".
(If it thinks it's human, anyway. If it's some sort of nuclear-powered robot squirrel that thinks it's a squirrel, it might be able to go thermonuclear and destroy itself as long as no humans are hurt. But, if it thinks it's human, it would be breaking Rule 1...)
What you're describing is called the "money multiplier" and is a well-understood economic principle. It was created to keep track of the fact that money is spent repeatedly while it's in the system
I know that's what the books and economics lecturers tell you, but I don't know about "well-understood" - "oft-repeated", or maybe "believed by many", which is not the same thing. Try this on for an alternative explanation:
It was created to allow financial institutions to lend out the same money to different people, over and over again - in effect, money is "created" (albeit in a non-tangible form) by gambling against the risk of everybody wanting their tangible money back at the same time."
In reality, both explanations are false - the "money multiplier" is in fact a side-effect of the fiat system. If you consider a small closed monetary system consisting of 3 people with $X each,and 1 item worth $X - total, 4x$X - it's easy to visualise that money is neither created or destroyed by transactions.
Person A sells item to Person B for $X. Person C comes along, and wants to buy the item from B - but B will only sell it for 2x$X. C goes to A and, after a bit of haggling, "borrows" $X from him and pays 2x$X to B. Now, after this:
A has his original $X, plus an $X share in item
B has 2x$X
C has $0, but an item worth 2x$X
According to economists, the economy is now worth 6x$X - which is patently untrue. 1x$X came from B's greed, and another 1x$X came from A's gambling that C will pay him back.
(Yeah, go on, tell me that it's only 5x$X because C really owns 1/2 of the item. That extra $X has still been magically "created". And if A ever wants his money back, C had better get a job or be prepared to lose his kneecaps...)
Now, consider what happens if B wants to buy the item back, and C wants 3x$X for it...
Even though this doesn't fit in with every other observable phenomena (e.g. conservation of energy, entropy, etc) in the natural world, economists like it. So observable rules are ignored, theories made up to match their desires and wishes, and the whole thing soon becomes a giant shell game con.
Now, I've got nothing against economics as a science - the study of how money moves, and can be made to move, from one part of society / the world to another is certainly complicated enough to be worthy of the term. But when things get made up to make reality match desires (not even expectations!), it loses all pretence of science - religion maybe (possibly one of those central american ones where they create the illusion of dead people walking by ingesting drugs and sacrificing chickens), or fantasy, but not science.
And how do we know you're not working for the blood-drinking shape-shifting reptile aliens, as part of a psy-ops plan to discredit the Chinese government *and* bloggers in order to pave the path for the takeover by the Bavarian Illuminati's New World Order?
*adjusts tinfoil hat with fourth hand and requests immediate beamout; the humans are onto me for some reason!*
See! Four hands! He's pretending to be a lemur to throw us off the real reptilian trail!
Granted I have become a super villan because of this. but that also has it's perks.
Sure, it's nice to have a secret mountain fortress on an uncharted island, giant death-ray, and sharks with friggin' lasers on their heads - but have you ever noticed that James Bond always turns up just when you're trying to watch your ripped copy of 'Battlestar Galactica'?
(Sorry, I got a bit carried away there, and forgot to make my original point...)
Just because the XviD codec is released under the GPL doesn't mean the the result produced by it is. If it did, it would mean that you could effectively put a movie under GPL by encoding it in XviD. I don't think even RMS is crazy enough to argue that is the case, even if the source movie was non-copyrighted.
But, as I said before, that's a moot point. You don't have to change XviD and/or break the GPL to effectively DRM XviD-encoded content, and it's not against the GPL to do so. Just put it in a DRM'd container, like DVDs do.
And if you're arguing that an.xvid extension makes it pure XviD - stream, container, and all - you're wrong. IIRC, the.xvid filetype/extension is just a renamed.avi...
Yes you can, dumbass, because XviD is a compression format, not a file format. Leaving aside the dubious legality of XviD with respect to the MPEG-4 patents, it still needs a file format to transport it -.avi,.mov,.mkv,.mp4, etc.
There's no reason - GPL compatability or otherwise - that the file format holding XviD itself can't be encrypted/DRM'd. In fact, to give a totally non-free example, this is exactly how DVDs work - there's no encryption/DRM in the MPEG-2 stream, but there is in the.vob files...
Now, if you were talking GPLv3, you'd have an arguement. This is exactly the kind of thing that GPLv3 is meant to address. But, afaik, XviD isn't GPLv3'd (yet).
Many don't trust the NY Times because they are to the left.
Your country needs to get out more...
Seriously, from an outsider's POV, the biggest problem with American politics is the hysterical 'left = teh evil' and 'anyone left of the Democrats is a filthy rotten subversive baby-eating pinko Communist!' mentality, fostered by over half a century of Cold War based propaganda.
Well, that and the black:white one-dimensional political spectrum you've created for yourselves. You have a society where the word 'liberal' is used as an epiphet, and even those who consider themselves to be such in your limited political spectrum try to deny that they are...
(clue: the Democrats wouldn't be considered to be the left of the political spectrum anywhere, except America. Possibly in other minor hard right-wing states - except most of those are so right wing they'd probably consider Republicans to be left-wing too, or at least 'not right-wing enough'.)
A much simpler version of this : next time you have friends visiting and the 'phone rings, just ignore it. Don't pause in your conversation, don't look around, don't look at your wife to see if she's going to answer it, don't acknowledge it at all. Just. Ignore. It.
And keep an eye on your friends. See how they react. Count how long it takes before one of them says "aren't you going to get that?" in a plaintive or accusative manner. Watch their face when you say "no".
It's become an almost Pavlovian conditioning to answer a ringing telephone, and almost everybody becomes very uncomfortable when you break that conditioning. I've even had friends get up and answer it themselves, nearly screaming "well, if you're not going to answer it, I am!"
Hear, hear. (Sorry, but I'm right with you on the "talk about things I do rather than things I fantasize about doing" thing.)
But, did you read the article? The fsckin' tower itself is the safest bit of the whole project! It might be 30+ years old, exposed to the canadian weather, and been knocked around by trucks in the back yard of his father's workplace, but I'd trust it a damn sight more than I would his built-over-several-weeks-out-of-waste-concrete base, his made-from-old-leftover-gal-plate baseplate home welded to the base of the tower, or the 3 bolts and 6 nuts which hold it in midair (look carefully - the baseplate doesn't touch the concrete slab).
Not to mention that the hole filled with water in 12 hours - he's got a serious problem with his soil stability right there.
Personally, I'll wait for the story telling how the bolts broke, the welds cracked, the baseplate tore, the slab delaminated, or the whole thing floated out of the ground and fell over...
Off the top of my head, I can name at least 2 SD DTV PVRs which use 5400RPM, ATA-33 drives - the Topfield 5x00 series, and the Humax Smart.
Note that both of these machines can simultaneously record 2 SD DTV streams while playing back a third from disc. That's 3 streams (2 write, 1 read) of ~6Mbps each, for a total of ~18Mbps. Or, roughly 2.5MBps (note "B", not "b").
Assuming a sustained transfer rate of 10MBps for a 5400RPM ATA-33 drive - which, honestly, is on the low side; it's more like 15~20MBps - that's still about 4 times faster than the ~2.5MBps you need for the above 3 video streams.
You're right on both counts - it's the weak link, and it doesn't give you the actual content.
For the benefit of anyone still watching this thread, cracking HDCP ain't like ripping DVDs - once you break HDCP the data stream is basically digitised uncompressed RGB, not the MPEG-encoded stream from the disc. You want to store that on disc? Recompress it again with your chosen codec.
From beginning to end, the path from disk to display looks roughly like this (yes, I know it's not strictly correct, it's simplified;-):
To rip from that after the HDCP decoding step is not so different to copying AAC-encoded audio to MP3 - you're still recompressing lossy-compressed data into a different lossy compression scheme. Except, in this case, it'll have to be done in real-time - 2 hours to capture that 2 hour movie*, plus X hours to recompress.
I guess my point is that people are expecting HD-DVD & Blu-Ray to be broken quickly, and the whole process to be comparable to using DVDDecrypter &/or DVDShrink. And that won't happen until SPDC/AACS is broken (most likely by hacked drive firmware), not HDCP.
(* uncompressed too, remember. So you'd better have a HUGE disc! Assuming 30G for the movie on HD-DVD, and 10:1 MPEG-4 compression, count on having a 300G HD dedicated for a single movie...)
However, apart from one single other/. post claiming it so, I can't find a single reference to back up the assertion that the HD-DVD decryption algorithm was designed to fit in a 10,000 gate chip. Nor can I find any other reference to indicate that it's just a matter of cracking "40 key pairs" to determine the master key.
What I can find is evidence that HDCP was designed to fit inside a 10,000 gate chip, and the master key can be determined after cracking 40 key pairs. But that's HDCP - a totally different animal to the SPDC/AACS security specified for HD-DVD and Blu-Ray.
I also note that the original reference to cracking HDCP - from where the "40 key pairs" and "10,000 gates" statements come - was published in 2001. AFAIK nobody has actually cracked it yet, 4 1/2 years on...
5) the next dvd jon - it's just a matter of time until any protection in these new formats is broken.
Every time HD-DVD, Blu-Ray, or a new DRM format is mentioned, someone brings this up. Yeah, you're right, it is just a matter of time - but there's a couple of things to remember:
The DVD format was first released in November 1996. DeCSS first appeared in October 1999 - nearly three years later!
CSS was only cracked because Xing left the decryption key unencrypted in their software, contrary to DVD consortium rules. In other words, Xing fscked up.
In other words it took 3 years, plus a mistake by someone in the know, before CSS was cracked. Wanna bet the HD-DVD & Blu-Ray consortium have learnt something from this?
Don't worry - information wants to be free, remember? The results will soon leak out and be available all over the world, just like those Abu Ghraib photos and Oreo cookies...
(Sorry 'bout that - it just occured to me last night, while watching TV, that it's the little things that piss people off about American social imperialism. Oreo cookies displacing local styles and brands of biscuit, fugly American-styled cars from Japan and Korea displacing attractive cars from Japan and Korea, etc...)
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Don't know about the 50Hz vs 60Hz thing - although I can tell you that as a citizen of a 50Hz country I notice low-level 60Hz hum, whereas I can't normally hear 50Hz hum.
However, I suspect you're on to something with transformer hum. Or, more specifically, general low-level noise. My story:
After some fairly major work-related stress, I found I just couldn't sleep properly. Tried the usual things - traditional & non-traditional drugs, meditation, etc - nothing worked for long. But I noticed on some nights I slept much better than others. After a few months I noticed the nights I slept better were the nights when the computers, 2 and 3 rooms away from my bedroom (with closed doors between me and them), were turned off.
Note that these machines are all built to be low-noise - Antec Sonata cases, large low-speed thermostat controlled fans, Zalman heatsinks, low-noise PSUs, etc. They're quiet - in normal use, sitting in front of them, they're barely audible. I definitely couldn't consciously hear them from my bedroom, even in the dead of night. But there was a definite correlation between whether they were on or off, and my sleep quality. Not (consciously) psychosomatic either - remember, it was only after I noticed variations in my sleep quality that I found it correlated to whether they were turned on or off.
Since then, I turn off everything that makes noise, no matter how low level. Computers (unless they're processing something), PVR (unless it's recording something), printer, computer speakers - basically everything that doesn't need to run overnight. I've noticed a definite improvement in my sleep quality (and general stress levels too). Yes, I'm prepared to accept that this part of it could be psychosomatic. But, if it helps me sleep better, I don't give a damn...
So, from my little ad-hoc experiment, I'm quite prepared to believe that continuous low-level noise - or possibly even EM fields - at subconscious levels can have a detrimental affect.
Call me a hypersensitive freak, call me self-deluding, call me a fringe-dwelling tree-hugging anti-technology neo-luddite. I don't care. I'll be sleeping well tonight...
Enjoy!
They'd spin it. The story wouldn't be "advertisers kill themselves", it'd be "self-regulation" by a "responsible" industry is "creating new opportunities" for "up and coming entrants", giving you, the consumer, a "better experience" and "wider choices" while "opening previously untapped potentials" through "innovative new techniques".
Personally, I think all universities should be equipped with gas-powered showers for the exclusive use of marketing and corporate psychology students. With big signs over the doors that say things like "Exclusive!" and "A once-in-a-lifetime experience!"...
If you really want to deliver something on the web, then do it. Notice "making somebody else pay for it" is not part of the equation.
Where in your constitution does it say "A free market, being necessary to the making of money, the right of companies to advertise shall not be infringed"?
Cool! As fate would have it, I've just spent the last day playing the original Railroad Tycoon under Petit Dosbox on my Mac!
(It's a little choppy on my 800MHz G4 though - gameplay is OK, but the sound clicks about once every 10 seconds. Still totally playable. And I'd forgotten about the $32 million 'bug'...)
Bullshit. It doesn't help that your federal democracy has been structured so that you have party-based elections in everything but name only. It's interesting to note that it's theoretically possible in your democracy to have party A control the Congress, party B control the Senate, and a representative of party C as President.
That's something nearly unique - it could never happen in a Westminster democracy. And, even more interestingly, in the few countries which have a presidential democracy similar to yours, it's not that uncommon to have a President who doesn't belong to the party controlling the lower house.
Or, in far fewer words, the only reason to believe that voting for a 3rd party wastes your vote is because the other 2 parties have convinced you of this "fact".
(A far bigger problem, IMNSHO, is of course the continued illusion that your President has "the power". That's bullshit too. In a real democracy, the government has the power - the President is just the instrument through which the power is funneled. But the American belief is that the President himself is The Power, who can bring times of plenty, create world peace, and quite possibly - like mythical kings of old - cure baldness and scrofula.
Maybe it's time to ignore the man, and take a good look behind the curtain...)
And if 3 is really the equivalent of 1, so it follows 4 is the equivalent of 2. Which leaves:
1 Locals trying to free themselves
2 Outsiders helping them
3 People who want to kill Americans
But you're limiting yourself to "insurgents", and leaving out the most important part - the (probably large) percentage of others that just wish everybody else would stop fucking them around, so they can go back to trying to live their lives again.
Things might have been bad under Hussein, there might have been a small chance they'd get dragged off in the middle of the night and shot, or locked up in a cell with a big Moorish guy called Ahbubba - but at least they weren't being shot at / blown up by both sides...
IIRC, there was an Asimov story (Evidence? The Evitable Conflict?) where it was discussed whether observed 3-law-consistent behaviour indicated a robot or just a very good human being...
As for "the robot must know it's a robot", no. If it has the 3 laws, it must follow them. That's why they're not called "The 3 guidelines to follow if you want to" of robotics".
(If it thinks it's human, anyway. If it's some sort of nuclear-powered robot squirrel that thinks it's a squirrel, it might be able to go thermonuclear and destroy itself as long as no humans are hurt. But, if it thinks it's human, it would be breaking Rule 1...)
Now, I've got nothing against economics as a science - the study of how money moves, and can be made to move, from one part of society / the world to another is certainly complicated enough to be worthy of the term. But when things get made up to make reality match desires (not even expectations!), it loses all pretence of science - religion maybe (possibly one of those central american ones where they create the illusion of dead people walking by ingesting drugs and sacrificing chickens), or fantasy, but not science.
It's like he works for the MPAA or something...
(Sorry, I got a bit carried away there, and forgot to make my original point...)
.xvid extension makes it pure XviD - stream, container, and all - you're wrong. IIRC, the .xvid filetype/extension is just a renamed .avi...
Just because the XviD codec is released under the GPL doesn't mean the the result produced by it is. If it did, it would mean that you could effectively put a movie under GPL by encoding it in XviD. I don't think even RMS is crazy enough to argue that is the case, even if the source movie was non-copyrighted.
But, as I said before, that's a moot point. You don't have to change XviD and/or break the GPL to effectively DRM XviD-encoded content, and it's not against the GPL to do so. Just put it in a DRM'd container, like DVDs do.
And if you're arguing that an
Yes you can, dumbass, because XviD is a compression format, not a file format. Leaving aside the dubious legality of XviD with respect to the MPEG-4 patents, it still needs a file format to transport it - .avi, .mov, .mkv, .mp4, etc.
.vob files...
There's no reason - GPL compatability or otherwise - that the file format holding XviD itself can't be encrypted/DRM'd. In fact, to give a totally non-free example, this is exactly how DVDs work - there's no encryption/DRM in the MPEG-2 stream, but there is in the
Now, if you were talking GPLv3, you'd have an arguement. This is exactly the kind of thing that GPLv3 is meant to address. But, afaik, XviD isn't GPLv3'd (yet).
Seriously, from an outsider's POV, the biggest problem with American politics is the hysterical 'left = teh evil' and 'anyone left of the Democrats is a filthy rotten subversive baby-eating pinko Communist!' mentality, fostered by over half a century of Cold War based propaganda.
Well, that and the black:white one-dimensional political spectrum you've created for yourselves. You have a society where the word 'liberal' is used as an epiphet, and even those who consider themselves to be such in your limited political spectrum try to deny that they are...
(clue: the Democrats wouldn't be considered to be the left of the political spectrum anywhere, except America. Possibly in other minor hard right-wing states - except most of those are so right wing they'd probably consider Republicans to be left-wing too, or at least 'not right-wing enough'.)
And keep an eye on your friends. See how they react. Count how long it takes before one of them says "aren't you going to get that?" in a plaintive or accusative manner. Watch their face when you say "no".
It's become an almost Pavlovian conditioning to answer a ringing telephone, and almost everybody becomes very uncomfortable when you break that conditioning. I've even had friends get up and answer it themselves, nearly screaming "well, if you're not going to answer it, I am!"
Hear, hear. (Sorry, but I'm right with you on the "talk about things I do rather than things I fantasize about doing" thing.)
But, did you read the article? The fsckin' tower itself is the safest bit of the whole project! It might be 30+ years old, exposed to the canadian weather, and been knocked around by trucks in the back yard of his father's workplace, but I'd trust it a damn sight more than I would his built-over-several-weeks-out-of-waste-concrete base, his made-from-old-leftover-gal-plate baseplate home welded to the base of the tower, or the 3 bolts and 6 nuts which hold it in midair (look carefully - the baseplate doesn't touch the concrete slab).
Not to mention that the hole filled with water in 12 hours - he's got a serious problem with his soil stability right there.
Personally, I'll wait for the story telling how the bolts broke, the welds cracked, the baseplate tore, the slab delaminated, or the whole thing floated out of the ground and fell over...
"At 5400 rpm they'll be slow at recording"?
No, you're wrong.
Off the top of my head, I can name at least 2 SD DTV PVRs which use 5400RPM, ATA-33 drives - the Topfield 5x00 series, and the Humax Smart.
Note that both of these machines can simultaneously record 2 SD DTV streams while playing back a third from disc. That's 3 streams (2 write, 1 read) of ~6Mbps each, for a total of ~18Mbps. Or, roughly 2.5MBps (note "B", not "b").
Assuming a sustained transfer rate of 10MBps for a 5400RPM ATA-33 drive - which, honestly, is on the low side; it's more like 15~20MBps - that's still about 4 times faster than the ~2.5MBps you need for the above 3 video streams.
You're right on both counts - it's the weak link, and it doesn't give you the actual content.
;-):
For the benefit of anyone still watching this thread, cracking HDCP ain't like ripping DVDs - once you break HDCP the data stream is basically digitised uncompressed RGB, not the MPEG-encoded stream from the disc. You want to store that on disc? Recompress it again with your chosen codec.
From beginning to end, the path from disk to display looks roughly like this (yes, I know it's not strictly correct, it's simplified
Disc->SPDC/AACS->decompression->HDCP encoder->HDCP decoder->display
To rip from that after the HDCP decoding step is not so different to copying AAC-encoded audio to MP3 - you're still recompressing lossy-compressed data into a different lossy compression scheme. Except, in this case, it'll have to be done in real-time - 2 hours to capture that 2 hour movie*, plus X hours to recompress.
I guess my point is that people are expecting HD-DVD & Blu-Ray to be broken quickly, and the whole process to be comparable to using DVDDecrypter &/or DVDShrink. And that won't happen until SPDC/AACS is broken (most likely by hacked drive firmware), not HDCP.
(* uncompressed too, remember. So you'd better have a HUGE disc! Assuming 30G for the movie on HD-DVD, and 10:1 MPEG-4 compression, count on having a 300G HD dedicated for a single movie...)
No, can't read your link from outside...
/. post claiming it so, I can't find a single reference to back up the assertion that the HD-DVD decryption algorithm was designed to fit in a 10,000 gate chip. Nor can I find any other reference to indicate that it's just a matter of cracking "40 key pairs" to determine the master key.
However, apart from one single other
What I can find is evidence that HDCP was designed to fit inside a 10,000 gate chip, and the master key can be determined after cracking 40 key pairs. But that's HDCP - a totally different animal to the SPDC/AACS security specified for HD-DVD and Blu-Ray.
I also note that the original reference to cracking HDCP - from where the "40 key pairs" and "10,000 gates" statements come - was published in 2001. AFAIK nobody has actually cracked it yet, 4 1/2 years on...
In other words it took 3 years, plus a mistake by someone in the know, before CSS was cracked. Wanna bet the HD-DVD & Blu-Ray consortium have learnt something from this?
Hell, no! He got the idea after hearing little Esther saying her first word. You may credit him with genius; I prefer to call it foresight...
Maybe the Romans meant to "let loose" their army, not "lose"?
* One entrepreneur to rule them all, and in the darkness bind them.
Don't worry - information wants to be free, remember? The results will soon leak out and be available all over the world, just like those Abu Ghraib photos and Oreo cookies...
(Sorry 'bout that - it just occured to me last night, while watching TV, that it's the little things that piss people off about American social imperialism. Oreo cookies displacing local styles and brands of biscuit, fugly American-styled cars from Japan and Korea displacing attractive cars from Japan and Korea, etc...)