Someone should call the cops... there has to be some sort of anti-vagrancy law that these people can be kicked out for. But not until a night or two before release. Even if they're just Sony shills, that would be hilarious.
You are not entitled to anything that noone promised you. This is the fundamental premise of a free society.
I agree with you, at least to an extent. This "quantum meruit" thing (I wish Wikipedia had citations for the entry) seems to disagree - again, to an extent - with that premise.
I could definitely see some pretty clear-cut cases, even more so than the lawn mowing example... Say I am a satellite TV company, and you call me and ask me to install satellite TV in your home, and I come and do it, and then present you with a bill. Not previously making any agreement on the cost of said services should not mean you don't need to pay. Now, I should have told you what the price would be before starting work (and on the other side of that, you should have asked), but it definitely seems that when services are requested from a business, compensation is implied.
Which doesn't mean that I can bill you $50,000 for installing satellite TV. The gist of the concept seems to be that, when I do work for someone, I deserve to be reasonably compensated for my service. I imagine, had I billed you $50,000, that you would refuse to pay, and I would need to take you to court, where it would be found that a reasonable price installing satellite TV was $79, and you would then be required to pay me $79.
Well, in that specific case, you could probably counter-sue me for extortion or something similar related to that ridiculous bill, but that's a different story.
This whole thing kind of reminds me of getting "estimates" for things... which I always thought was crazy, but I can see the other side now.
This is the whole reason copyright exists - to protect the rights of the creator.
USC pertaining to Copyright, emphasis mine - To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by securing for limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective Writings and Discoveries. 17 U.S.C. sec. 105
The fact that the studio encouraged these people to promote the movie does not constitute a promise to compensate. After all they encourage people to do all kinds of things (for instance, to see movies), but that does not mean that they agree to compensate the said people for these actions or in any way imply that such a promise exists.
But watching a movie is an activity that is typically not compensated for. Advertising is an activity that typically is. Not a lawyer and all that, but it seems that is the difference.
The wall example (from wikipedia) seems a little crazy, but the lawn-mowing example makes sense to me. Self-interest shouldn't really enter the picture (perhaps short of compensation from a third party) - if I derive satisfaction from mowing lawns, am I not entitled to compensation for doing so?
As for "Fair use"... what's the fair use in this case?
There were two letters, a C&D related to copyright-infringing merchandise (which was complied with), and a second letter afterwards demanding licensing fees for Serenity-related original artwork (a T-shirt that has the chinese characters for 'serenity' - Universal is asserting that they own the word. At least, the word in chinese.)
So, you're probably right... fair use doesn't really enter the picture.
But if you read a little MORE (I know, I know, it's Slashdot) you'll see he said this: "The questionable image in my shop were, for the most part, already pulled down by Cafe Press after the first email notice I got last week."
And if you keep reading (this could go on forever, I'm sure) there was an original C&D related to the copyright and images, which was complied with (the 'already pulled down...' part). These being images that Universal had previously encouraged use of for promotion of the movie - there have even been (unsupported) claims that Universal employees had at least turned a blind eye, if not passively encouraged, use of the images on infringing merchandise. Of course, I could encourage someone to use my company's logo, that doesn't mean it's okay for them to do so... but keep in mind, the people infringing copyright here are the 'average joe' types that are not nearly as aware of copyright law as the slashdot crowd. They're scared to death, because they're honest people who made an honest mistake by taking these Universal employees at face value, and are now taking these letters at face value as well, thinking they suddenly owe a tremendous amount of money to Universal.
It sounds like the first letter (the C&D) was for the copyrighted images, and the second letter billing for the retroactive licensing fees - in addition to other demands, including a year's backlog of customer order information - was for Firefly/Serenity related original works.
What apparently happened is that Universal sold T-shirt rights to a third party, which is now either enforcing on behalf of Universal, or demanding that Universal enforce (all this is going through a... fourth(?) party law firm, of course) the Firefly/Serenity copyright. Again, no supporting evidence, but that's what's been said.
Seems to me, the appropriate/ethical thing for Universal to do would be to acknowledge that they have sent mixed signals to the fans of their IP, and take care of this. I've heard it said that Universal has in the past been pretty even-handed with their IP enforcement, so maybe there's still a chance that they'll step up to the plate with this one.
Something the article seems to miss is that many rebate processing houses like to invalidate rebates for no reason whatsoever.
I've thought about this before, although in reference to denial of health insurance claims... I'm guessing it happens so often, because what do they have to lose? What's the worst case for them? They get some calls from a few people who managed to save their receipts and any other evidence, maybe offer their apologies, and pay out. Best case, they end up not paying a dime. There doesn't seem to be any possible down side to refusing at least some percentage of claims. Maybe if they do too much, they get enough pissed off consumers to get an AG or two involved (Best Buy comes to mind), but that seems to only happen in extreme cases.
I don't know about other groupware systems, but my favorite thing about my blackberry is its integration with Lotus Notes. If I set up or accept a meeting in Notes or on the BB, it shows up on my calendar (relatively) immediately on both. No manual synching is necessary. I can also look up people's phone numbers, locations, etc. on the BB using my company's Notes global address book. IIRC this is all done through the BB server software. The point being.. it's more than mobile e-mail, it's a mobile carbon-copy of my existing Notes system.
Unless you are referring to private (as opposed to corporate) ownership of BBs, in which case I 100% agree with you... I'd take a regular phone (or maybe one of those sidekick deals) over a BB for private use any day. Seems to me like they're cheaper and better than BBs for personal use.
Is it known if the murder was related to spamming? (The article makes the implication, but doesn't go out and say it. Probably sensationalism) My guess would be that spammers tend to also be involved in other less-than-savory business practices, which could have led to a murder.
How exactly does an ~51% majority in the election and a 55% majority in the Senate equate to a 90/10 split?
Same way that the 51% is a mandate from the people, the last 12 years out of 14 is the last-throes end bit, and we can ignore billions in war expenses when budgeting... republi-math.
I mentioned in my last post that J Allard looks like a pirate, which is incontrovertible. You only need to look at a picture of the man to see that he spends a lot of time swinging on rigging and generally being dashing.
You all should start a slashdot clan for Halo 2. I was able to get into the Penny Arcade clan (it's full now tho... 100 person limit) and the games I play with all of them are an incredible improvement over the 'rabble'.
This is a direct result of the sheer amount of cash required to make a game. As "processing power has increased to insane levels", so has graphic detail, and graphic detail is VERY expensive/time consuming. Modern game production teams are nearly always comprised mostly of artists. The kind of people who could write up a game even like quake3 on their own in their basements with little/no capital are extremely rare if they even exist at all. Game development is vastly different on the ps2 than it was on the intellivision.
So the corporations with the kind of cash hanging around that it now takes to make a game are faced with an option. They can make a few tweaks to an existing model, pay off some reviewers and sell a couple million copies, or create a game vastly different from anything that came before it and run a rather good risk of losing quite a lot of money.
Eventually the market will turn, people won't buy UT 2023, Quake XVII, and Super Mario 4096, and these companies will look at games like Katamari Damacy and Gish that will be taking over the market, and there will be a switch.
But my guess is that this won't happen for quite a long time. People like bland familiarity. Over 60 billion served.
I've had so many problems with my dell system, I actually memorized the service tag #. It's been over a year since I even used that system, and that number is still burned into my brain. I was using it literally every month during the lifetime of that system (inspiron 8000). NEVER another dell.
From what I've heard (and my experience with my own) there should have already been a class action suit with the Inspiron 8000's... Supposedly they were build with a bios or chipset designed for desktop systems, not laptop systems, which was quickly hacked together to provide battery power management. So, until about 30 bios revisions had been made, the systems killed batteries. I know mine lasted about 4 months before it would no longer hold a charge. Dell of course refused to replace it, even though it went bad under warranty... they'd only send me back and forth between tech support and customer service, neither of which would take responsibility for or escalate my problem.
Although, I also had to have the screen replaced twice, motherboard 3 times, hdd once, and keyboard four times. So maybe I just got a lemon. Either way, I also have an IBM thinkpad that must be 10 years old by now (it's a 486) that has never had the slightest of problems. Next time I'm in the market, IBM gets my money.
I cant find a link to the bios/chipset issue anymore... I know I read about it in a few different places. Anyone have any more info?
The way I understand it (after RTFA) is that Sun would have been protected from responsibility for OpenOffice only if it had been written into the agreement. So, by not including OpenOffice in the agreement, Sun could (theoretically) be held responsible for OpenOffice.
I can't think of any other reason for this exclusion to be made other than Microsoft planning legal action against someone related to OpenOffice. It seems very odd to me that an OpenOffice clause would be written into this agreement with Sun, since it doesn't seem like Sun could be held liable for anything that OpenOffice does anyways. This is where I could be wrong... I couldn't find on openoffice.org what kind of ties to Sun remain, so I'm assuming there are very few if any.
After a few more problems with the way BB treats its customers I don't shop there anymore. There is a Circuit City right across the street.
My family has had several great experiences with Circuit City. We bought an open-box big screen TV (for a good bit less than a new one), which promptly broke a week later. As frustrating as that was, Circuit City delivered a brand new one the next day, at no cost to us. When this same TV broke again a few years later (bad model, i suppose) we called in to have it serviced under the extended warranty. Also another poor experience at first, as the repairman seemed relatively clueless and couldn't fix the TV, but a few weeks later when the TV still hadn't been fixed, Circuit City gave us store credit for the full price (unopened box) of the TV when it was new. That let us upgrade our 4:3 standard resolution TV to a bigger 16:9 HDTV for something like $60 more.
As much as I hate those 'extended warranties', Circuit City's definitely turned out in our favor.
Of note... on the NIH site, "Derivations" is the number of lines the organization has available. "Available Lines" is the number of lines available under Bush's policy. The lie comes in that Bush said one thing, "more than 60...", yet wrote policy so that fewer than half of these are actually available.
Ok, if you want to talk about lies and liars--and imply GW Bush (I assume that's who you are implying?) is a liar--what's an example of a lie he told?
I'll bite, but only because I think this is important... Anyone still remember stem cells?
"As a result of private research, more than 60 genetically diverse stem cell lines already exist. They were created from embryos that have already been destroyed, and they have the ability to regenerate themselves indefinitely, creating ongoing opportunities for research. I have concluded that we should allow federal funds to be used for research on these existing stem cell lines, where the life and death decision has already been made." - George W. Bush, 8:00 PM CDT, Aug 9, 2001. (Bold mine)
"Embryonic stem cell research is at the leading edge of a series of moral hazards... My position on these issues is shaped by deeply held beliefs... I also believe human life is a sacred gift from our Creator. I worry about a culture that devalues life, and believe as your President I have an important obligation to foster and encourage respect for life in America and throughout the world... I have made this decision with great care, and I pray it is the right one." - Also G.W. Bush, several excerpts from the same speech, which in my opinion speaks to the "messenger of God" mentality.
Not only that:
" I will also name a President's council to monitor stem cell research, to recommend appropriate guidelines and regulations, and to consider all of the medical and ethical ramifications of biomedical innovation. This council will consist of leading scientists, doctors, ethicists, lawyers, theologians and others, and will be chaired by Dr. Leon Kass, a leading biomedical ethicist from the University of Chicago." - also same speech.
Leon Kass, of course, has a long history of such things as testifying in State of Michigan v. Jack Kevorkian against assisted suicide, fighting against human cloning, and also brings us such wonderful quotes as:
"But more importantly, in my own teaching, I discovered that the BIBLE was a book that could more than hold its own with the great works of philosophy and literature that I had been teaching to undergraduates.... And the classes that I've had on Genesis, Bill, have been the best classes I've ever taught. I don't lecture. I mean we sit and read these stories, and they take to them-- like thirsty men and women to water... You don't have to be a Jew or a Christian to believe that we are in touch with powers of inspiration that summon us. There are powers that speak through us." - Leon Kass, interview with Bill Moyers, July 25, 2003
Sounds like they prefer not to be listed... maybe it's my lack of knowledge of financial terms, but:
In a separate release, SCO said its legal counsel has notified three unregulated German exchanges that the company's stock has been listed on them without SCO's knowledge, consent or authorization. SCO has requested that its shares be delisted from the exchanges.
Doesn't that just mean that the stock price is being posted in Germany? Isn't that public information? seems kind of silly to me...
This recipe is from the 1968 McDonald's Manager's Handbook put out in 1969 (1968 year) They quickly removed the recipe after realizing they had a very appealing "secret sauce." It was included as an emergency recipe in the event a particular store ran out of the pre-made sauce. Enjoy!
I believe it was a reference to Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas, but it's been years since I've seen that movie, and I've never read the book, so I could be wrong.
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Someone should call the cops... there has to be some sort of anti-vagrancy law that these people can be kicked out for. But not until a night or two before release. Even if they're just Sony shills, that would be hilarious.
You are not entitled to anything that noone promised you. This is the fundamental premise of a free society.
I agree with you, at least to an extent. This "quantum meruit" thing (I wish Wikipedia had citations for the entry) seems to disagree - again, to an extent - with that premise.
I could definitely see some pretty clear-cut cases, even more so than the lawn mowing example... Say I am a satellite TV company, and you call me and ask me to install satellite TV in your home, and I come and do it, and then present you with a bill. Not previously making any agreement on the cost of said services should not mean you don't need to pay. Now, I should have told you what the price would be before starting work (and on the other side of that, you should have asked), but it definitely seems that when services are requested from a business, compensation is implied.
Which doesn't mean that I can bill you $50,000 for installing satellite TV. The gist of the concept seems to be that, when I do work for someone, I deserve to be reasonably compensated for my service. I imagine, had I billed you $50,000, that you would refuse to pay, and I would need to take you to court, where it would be found that a reasonable price installing satellite TV was $79, and you would then be required to pay me $79.
Well, in that specific case, you could probably counter-sue me for extortion or something similar related to that ridiculous bill, but that's a different story.
This whole thing kind of reminds me of getting "estimates" for things... which I always thought was crazy, but I can see the other side now.
This is the whole reason copyright exists - to protect the rights of the creator.
USC pertaining to Copyright, emphasis mine -
To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by securing for limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective Writings and Discoveries. 17 U.S.C. sec. 105
The fact that the studio encouraged these people to promote the movie does not constitute a promise to compensate. After all they encourage people to do all kinds of things (for instance, to see movies), but that does not mean that they agree to compensate the said people for these actions or in any way imply that such a promise exists.
But watching a movie is an activity that is typically not compensated for. Advertising is an activity that typically is. Not a lawyer and all that, but it seems that is the difference.
The wall example (from wikipedia) seems a little crazy, but the lawn-mowing example makes sense to me. Self-interest shouldn't really enter the picture (perhaps short of compensation from a third party) - if I derive satisfaction from mowing lawns, am I not entitled to compensation for doing so?
As for "Fair use" ... what's the fair use in this case?
There were two letters, a C&D related to copyright-infringing merchandise (which was complied with), and a second letter afterwards demanding licensing fees for Serenity-related original artwork (a T-shirt that has the chinese characters for 'serenity' - Universal is asserting that they own the word. At least, the word in chinese.)
So, you're probably right... fair use doesn't really enter the picture.
But if you read a little MORE (I know, I know, it's Slashdot) you'll see he said this:
"The questionable image in my shop were, for the most part, already pulled down by Cafe Press after the first email notice I got last week."
And if you keep reading (this could go on forever, I'm sure) there was an original C&D related to the copyright and images, which was complied with (the 'already pulled down...' part). These being images that Universal had previously encouraged use of for promotion of the movie - there have even been (unsupported) claims that Universal employees had at least turned a blind eye, if not passively encouraged, use of the images on infringing merchandise. Of course, I could encourage someone to use my company's logo, that doesn't mean it's okay for them to do so... but keep in mind, the people infringing copyright here are the 'average joe' types that are not nearly as aware of copyright law as the slashdot crowd. They're scared to death, because they're honest people who made an honest mistake by taking these Universal employees at face value, and are now taking these letters at face value as well, thinking they suddenly owe a tremendous amount of money to Universal.
It sounds like the first letter (the C&D) was for the copyrighted images, and the second letter billing for the retroactive licensing fees - in addition to other demands, including a year's backlog of customer order information - was for Firefly/Serenity related original works.
What apparently happened is that Universal sold T-shirt rights to a third party, which is now either enforcing on behalf of Universal, or demanding that Universal enforce (all this is going through a... fourth(?) party law firm, of course) the Firefly/Serenity copyright. Again, no supporting evidence, but that's what's been said.
Seems to me, the appropriate/ethical thing for Universal to do would be to acknowledge that they have sent mixed signals to the fans of their IP, and take care of this. I've heard it said that Universal has in the past been pretty even-handed with their IP enforcement, so maybe there's still a chance that they'll step up to the plate with this one.
It wouldn't be a problem if the legislation bought on the way to their death would go away with them.
you guys say that, but i doubt you could point out a single incident where a citizen was restrained from protesting the government.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_speech_zone
Something the article seems to miss is that many rebate processing houses like to invalidate rebates for no reason whatsoever.
I've thought about this before, although in reference to denial of health insurance claims... I'm guessing it happens so often, because what do they have to lose? What's the worst case for them? They get some calls from a few people who managed to save their receipts and any other evidence, maybe offer their apologies, and pay out. Best case, they end up not paying a dime. There doesn't seem to be any possible down side to refusing at least some percentage of claims. Maybe if they do too much, they get enough pissed off consumers to get an AG or two involved (Best Buy comes to mind), but that seems to only happen in extreme cases.
I don't know about other groupware systems, but my favorite thing about my blackberry is its integration with Lotus Notes. If I set up or accept a meeting in Notes or on the BB, it shows up on my calendar (relatively) immediately on both. No manual synching is necessary. I can also look up people's phone numbers, locations, etc. on the BB using my company's Notes global address book. IIRC this is all done through the BB server software. The point being.. it's more than mobile e-mail, it's a mobile carbon-copy of my existing Notes system.
Unless you are referring to private (as opposed to corporate) ownership of BBs, in which case I 100% agree with you... I'd take a regular phone (or maybe one of those sidekick deals) over a BB for private use any day. Seems to me like they're cheaper and better than BBs for personal use.
Is it known if the murder was related to spamming? (The article makes the implication, but doesn't go out and say it. Probably sensationalism) My guess would be that spammers tend to also be involved in other less-than-savory business practices, which could have led to a murder.
How exactly does an ~51% majority in the election and a 55% majority in the Senate equate to a 90/10 split?
Same way that the 51% is a mandate from the people, the last 12 years out of 14 is the last-throes end bit, and we can ignore billions in war expenses when budgeting... republi-math.
Uhhhmmmmm....we do?
Uhhhmmmmmm... yes, we do. Article IX.
You forgot pirate:
You all should start a slashdot clan for Halo 2. I was able to get into the Penny Arcade clan (it's full now tho... 100 person limit) and the games I play with all of them are an incredible improvement over the 'rabble'.
This is a direct result of the sheer amount of cash required to make a game. As "processing power has increased to insane levels", so has graphic detail, and graphic detail is VERY expensive/time consuming. Modern game production teams are nearly always comprised mostly of artists. The kind of people who could write up a game even like quake3 on their own in their basements with little/no capital are extremely rare if they even exist at all. Game development is vastly different on the ps2 than it was on the intellivision.
So the corporations with the kind of cash hanging around that it now takes to make a game are faced with an option. They can make a few tweaks to an existing model, pay off some reviewers and sell a couple million copies, or create a game vastly different from anything that came before it and run a rather good risk of losing quite a lot of money.
Eventually the market will turn, people won't buy UT 2023, Quake XVII, and Super Mario 4096, and these companies will look at games like Katamari Damacy and Gish that will be taking over the market, and there will be a switch.
But my guess is that this won't happen for quite a long time. People like bland familiarity. Over 60 billion served.
I've had so many problems with my dell system, I actually memorized the service tag #. It's been over a year since I even used that system, and that number is still burned into my brain. I was using it literally every month during the lifetime of that system (inspiron 8000). NEVER another dell.
From what I've heard (and my experience with my own) there should have already been a class action suit with the Inspiron 8000's... Supposedly they were build with a bios or chipset designed for desktop systems, not laptop systems, which was quickly hacked together to provide battery power management. So, until about 30 bios revisions had been made, the systems killed batteries. I know mine lasted about 4 months before it would no longer hold a charge. Dell of course refused to replace it, even though it went bad under warranty... they'd only send me back and forth between tech support and customer service, neither of which would take responsibility for or escalate my problem.
Although, I also had to have the screen replaced twice, motherboard 3 times, hdd once, and keyboard four times. So maybe I just got a lemon. Either way, I also have an IBM thinkpad that must be 10 years old by now (it's a 486) that has never had the slightest of problems. Next time I'm in the market, IBM gets my money.
I cant find a link to the bios/chipset issue anymore... I know I read about it in a few different places. Anyone have any more info?
The way I understand it (after RTFA) is that Sun would have been protected from responsibility for OpenOffice only if it had been written into the agreement. So, by not including OpenOffice in the agreement, Sun could (theoretically) be held responsible for OpenOffice.
I can't think of any other reason for this exclusion to be made other than Microsoft planning legal action against someone related to OpenOffice. It seems very odd to me that an OpenOffice clause would be written into this agreement with Sun, since it doesn't seem like Sun could be held liable for anything that OpenOffice does anyways. This is where I could be wrong... I couldn't find on openoffice.org what kind of ties to Sun remain, so I'm assuming there are very few if any.
After a few more problems with the way BB treats its customers I don't shop there anymore. There is a Circuit City right across the street.
My family has had several great experiences with Circuit City. We bought an open-box big screen TV (for a good bit less than a new one), which promptly broke a week later. As frustrating as that was, Circuit City delivered a brand new one the next day, at no cost to us. When this same TV broke again a few years later (bad model, i suppose) we called in to have it serviced under the extended warranty. Also another poor experience at first, as the repairman seemed relatively clueless and couldn't fix the TV, but a few weeks later when the TV still hadn't been fixed, Circuit City gave us store credit for the full price (unopened box) of the TV when it was new. That let us upgrade our 4:3 standard resolution TV to a bigger 16:9 HDTV for something like $60 more.
As much as I hate those 'extended warranties', Circuit City's definitely turned out in our favor.
Of note... on the NIH site, "Derivations" is the number of lines the organization has available. "Available Lines" is the number of lines available under Bush's policy. The lie comes in that Bush said one thing, "more than 60...", yet wrote policy so that fewer than half of these are actually available.
Ok, if you want to talk about lies and liars--and imply GW Bush (I assume that's who you are implying?) is a liar--what's an example of a lie he told?
I'll bite, but only because I think this is important... Anyone still remember stem cells?
"As a result of private research, more than 60 genetically diverse stem cell lines already exist. They were created from embryos that have already been destroyed, and they have the ability to regenerate themselves indefinitely, creating ongoing opportunities for research. I have concluded that we should allow federal funds to be used for research on these existing stem cell lines, where the life and death decision has already been made." - George W. Bush, 8:00 PM CDT, Aug 9, 2001. (Bold mine)
Information on Eligibility Criteria for Federal Funding of Research on Human Embryonic Stem Cells. Now, count the number of lines available for use with federal funds under the regulations provided by Bush. Granted, it's been a while since grade school math, but I'm fairly certain that 19 is NOT "more than 60".
"Embryonic stem cell research is at the leading edge of a series of moral hazards... My position on these issues is shaped by deeply held beliefs... I also believe human life is a sacred gift from our Creator. I worry about a culture that devalues life, and believe as your President I have an important obligation to foster and encourage respect for life in America and throughout the world... I have made this decision with great care, and I pray it is the right one." - Also G.W. Bush, several excerpts from the same speech, which in my opinion speaks to the "messenger of God" mentality.
Not only that:
" I will also name a President's council to monitor stem cell research, to recommend appropriate guidelines and regulations, and to consider all of the medical and ethical ramifications of biomedical innovation. This council will consist of leading scientists, doctors, ethicists, lawyers, theologians and others, and will be chaired by Dr. Leon Kass, a leading biomedical ethicist from the University of Chicago." - also same speech.
Leon Kass, of course, has a long history of such things as testifying in State of Michigan v. Jack Kevorkian against assisted suicide, fighting against human cloning, and also brings us such wonderful quotes as:
"But more importantly, in my own teaching, I discovered that the BIBLE was a book that could more than hold its own with the great works of philosophy and literature that I had been teaching to undergraduates.... And the classes that I've had on Genesis, Bill, have been the best classes I've ever taught. I don't lecture. I mean we sit and read these stories, and they take to them-- like thirsty men and women to water... You don't have to be a Jew or a Christian to believe that we are in touch with powers of inspiration that summon us. There are powers that speak through us." - Leon Kass, interview with Bill Moyers, July 25, 2003
Sounds like they prefer not to be listed... maybe it's my lack of knowledge of financial terms, but:
In a separate release, SCO said its legal counsel has notified three unregulated German exchanges that the company's stock has been listed on them without SCO's knowledge, consent or authorization. SCO has requested that its shares be delisted from the exchanges.
Doesn't that just mean that the stock price is being posted in Germany? Isn't that public information? seems kind of silly to me...
I don't know if this is true or not, but I found this the other day:
Big Mac Sauce Recipe
This recipe is from the 1968 McDonald's Manager's Handbook put out in 1969 (1968 year) They quickly removed the recipe after realizing they had a very appealing "secret sauce." It was included as an emergency recipe in the event a particular store ran out of the pre-made sauce. Enjoy!
I believe it was a reference to Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas, but it's been years since I've seen that movie, and I've never read the book, so I could be wrong.