Insightful? I'm guessing you can count the number of people dedicated to the x86 port of Solaris on one hand. And while it was nice and professionally packaged (sorry rpm bloatware obfuscation) and documented (man pages in linux often don't compare) - it did suffer from a lack of drivers and underuse. I guess with heavy adoption of many components that make Linux popular (XF86, etc..) it's the natural progression that sun will support more linux.
Not so much "ceeding the x86 market" (whatever that means) - but more like the natural progression of things in the mid-range. Let's face it - x86 rules the low-mid range and I don't think Sun wants to spend the bandwidth writing drivers to keep up with every vendor who puts out a widget that plugs into an x86 box.. so why not plug into the existing community and start using the kernel.
Personally - I'd like to sun tackle packaging a linux distro - the sheer number of dependencies and rate of change of sub-components is astounding.. i mean seriously - wouldn't a patch management system make a heck of a lot more sense than whole new rpms/(insert fav packaging system here) for every little bugfix/version increase?
um - actually you do use Verisign whenever you use a.com.. they run the registry remember?
they'd been deploying.tv for about 2 years now - I still remember all the stupid radio ads.. this is no news - just another PT Barnum money-maker for suckers..
Th bigger problem this time, is since there is a lack of regulatory standards around pricing and service level agreements (ICANN is still a joke) - you've got one company that holds a monopoly running an exclusive registry and a registrar in the same container, with real power in both security and network routing.. who says the internet doesn't have a core?
Actually - Windows is a registered trademark of the George M. Leader Family Corp for patients with Dementia. Microsoft just has Windows XP trademarked. Sounds like dementia infringement to me..
very true! - when I was there last year a.root-server.net was around 11,000 UDP queries/sec and the others would peak up to around 5-6,000.. occassionally they'd see things that would scare the daylights out of them. There are dependencies on the a.root server since DNS does have a hierarchy and a.root functions as a master of the masters.. in other words - master authoritative queries flow up and will hit a.root.
Add to the queries the size of the zones - the.COM zone was over a 2gb flat file - try doing your basic DNS pointer record lookups on something that size at that rate!
btw - when win2K first hit - sustained load on a.root gradually increased by a factor of 4-5x - they were working on a number of strategies to filter at line speed and redirect queries - you wouldn't believe (or maybe you would) the bogus DyDNS requests and poorly formed queries that hit every couple ms..
I personally wouldn't go so far as to call Windows an OS - seems more like a viral environment to me;).. or to quote from the ESR dictionary which seems oddly appropriate:
A thirty-two bit extension and graphical shell to a sixteen-bit patch to an eight-bit operating system originally coded for a four-bit microprocessor which was written by a two-bit company that can't stand one bit of competition.
If you want to get down to it - isn't the X Window System (Trademark Open Group) more similar to Windows and doesn't its trademark and use of Windows terminology predate Microsoft, and hasn't there been confusion surrounding this term propogated by Microsoft to the point where there has been dilution of a previous trademark?
How about teaming with the Open Group and countersuing?
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When will we learn that duping MS products is not necessarily the best way to go?! Simply come up with better products that form the MS cashcow - namely office, visio, project, etc.. if you study what people attempt to do everyday to the level that they do you've taken the first step.
Listen to complaints about different OS distros from the average undiscriminating user and I think you'll find that there's a wealth of intuitive knowledge about where the other OS's don't quite stack up.
If you really want to beat them i'd look to companies that can provide more of a professional element in the UI dept to make other OS's look less like university projects and more like polished tools.. Just because the widgets look cooler doesn't mean that the interface is more intuitive or the apps are less of a resource hog.
Personally I'm starting to think about Sol x86 (just pulled the iso's) and openoffice and what we can do there to make a better overall product.. use companies like Sun and IBM to drive the innovation that the smaller feeder companies can develop around and make all types of hardware cheap (not just intel based architectures)..
now I just need to hook one end up to a water supply and the other to a coffee filter with an IV tube for that extra shot of high adrelanine computing:)
you should be able to squeeze the whole computer in here , run a connector to a battery pack, and have room left over for 2 beer cans on the side.. can't you just see this guy sitting in coach?
heck yeah - 11Mb/s is quite fast! - but actually, well written network apps should only need 9600baud - so packet radio is the real way to go!.. it's much longer range and much more robust!
come to think of it 640KB should be more than enough memory for most real users too.. GUIs are for wimps!
I mean forget about the h/w and think about it for a second - wouldn't it be easier for Microsoft to begin to put their bloat and software processes in some of the linux communities opensource arenas and obfuscate the line between the two that way?
Perhaps Microsoft is already putting some of their developers in certain key projects.. I've started seeing a few reviews recently that begin to point out certain linux projects who are practicing "embrace and extend"..
Actually the existing hype is pretty funny now in it's own right - from the passport site
Use.NET Passport from any computer on the Internet. Your.NET Passport is protected by powerful online security technology and a strict privacy policy. You control which sites access it.
wow! with powerful online security like this - who needs anything else.. Passport - "One Name, One Password, One way for everyone else to steal your identity and shop online!"
um let me see here.. you're asking if i understand the part where you said
"at least they didn't give it Verisign?" and.. oh wait - i guess you really didn't have anything to say beyond that at all - did you?
my point which you obviously fail to see here is simply that if Network Solutions (aka Verisign aka Verisign GRS) really had wanted the.US domain - they have the influence with the gov't to take it - in the same way they've been able to extend control of the other "favorable" TLDs.. for over a year now they've essentially been doing the DoC a huge favor by hosting it beyond their contract extension, and making a hideously broken system limp along, but didn't want to spend any of their money making it better.
nobody at Verisign cared about.US!! and if they really did, they would have let the gov't know about 2 years ago when the DoC was trying to pawn it off to anybody who would take it (even the Post Office declined - going after a.COM address instead) - I know since I contracted there to bring up the.US TLD on their systems after they took it back from USC!! if you weren't happy with their service or policies that's simply because their mgmt didn't care about servicing the domain since it was just a resource sinkhole for them to maintain and they received no revenue for it.
and in response to your question - it doesn't matter who gets it! - the domain name system is obviously broken beyond repair from its original intentions, and in many cases is no more useful than the IP addresses it obfuscates. the.US TLD was the last bastion of order in a TLD naming structure trying desperately to hold onto the idea of distributed delegation and organization of names by uniform standards representing localities - (but of course - i assume everyone here is familiar with the RFC)
in response to your ignorant one-liner.. the.US TLD was Verisign's from the moment they bought Network Solutions and was given to them by the government! - it just wasn't worth the fight for them to keep it since they didn't know what to do with it or even how to do a noble deed and improve the management of it since there was nothing in it ($$wise) for them. to me that will always stick out in my mind from the ultimate internet trust company as a really bad move - the greedy company that limited the internet.
i'm sorry - did you ever study your internet history? it was Verisign's ever since Verisign bought Network Solutions.
Network Solutions was awarded a government grant and had sole responsibility over all domains until the government got a clue as to what people were complaining about and started doing their job of regulation (something that should have been done around oh say '92) - under that contract Network Solutions (transferred to Verisign who bought out NSI) had responsibility for all those domains until the contract expired in '99 (including the.US domain), and managed to sweet-talk their way into keeping control over what became the big moneymakers. DoC never got on the ball to figure out what to do with the.US domain since everything else was a mess, and so it sat.. Verisign put in a bid, but didn't really care for the control of it and had been looking to unload it since they realized they had to manage it.
.US has been the bastard child TLD of the internet trying desparately to hold on to the idea of orderly conduct,
the purpose of domain names was for the identification and organization of entities. In the original scheme they had accounted for commercial, educational, network,and nonprofit entities that were globally based, and things that were to be regionally and locationally based represented by the.US TLD and the other ccTLDs.. but guess what happened when NSI compromised the standards because of their greed? unregulation in the.com space crept into.net and.org and the whole thing fell apart. Until his death, Postel was relegated to working out silly squabbles in the.US domain (which NSI literally forgot about), and the.US domain seemed too regulated and became underutilized as it seemed almost everyone was seeking to make their fortune for doing nothing.
now guess what people are discovering - locational identification of entities are important and virtually impossible to do in the current scheme. we screwed the system up ourselves!! and in the process alienated some of the greatest minds and contributors.
hey - while we're at it - why don't we scrap letters and words and use icons.. it's just as random if you think about how silly it all it - it's already too late for anything resembling order in the domain namespace game anyhow, and the multilingual namespace is a joke (albeit an expensive one)
the new TLD will be known as <img src=foo.gif> "the domain formerly known as.us" </img>
yeah - it sucks when you can't use or change the underlying MS DLL's because you don't want to shell out cash to MS to figure out how they've setup their "hairball of an OS".. also when they purposefully degrade Java performance..
make the break now!.. just say "no more!" to MS.. (recovery groups available for counseling)
why not Postscript and PDF?.. they're simple and nice conversions from MS formats, and PDF is a heck of a lot smaller - also I like the fact that Adobe gives away a reader and seems to have a superior professional typesetting product (what MS aims at)
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Insightful? I'm guessing you can count the number of people dedicated to the x86 port of Solaris on one hand. And while it was nice and professionally packaged (sorry rpm bloatware obfuscation) and documented (man pages in linux often don't compare) - it did suffer from a lack of drivers and underuse. I guess with heavy adoption of many components that make Linux popular (XF86, etc ..) it's the natural progression that sun will support more linux.
.. so why not plug into the existing community and start using the kernel.
.. i mean seriously - wouldn't a patch management system make a heck of a lot more sense than whole new rpms/(insert fav packaging system here) for every little bugfix/version increase?
Not so much "ceeding the x86 market" (whatever that means) - but more like the natural progression of things in the mid-range. Let's face it - x86 rules the low-mid range and I don't think Sun wants to spend the bandwidth writing drivers to keep up with every vendor who puts out a widget that plugs into an x86 box
Personally - I'd like to sun tackle packaging a linux distro - the sheer number of dependencies and rate of change of sub-components is astounding
Bastards .. Postel is probably rolling in his grave
um - actually you do use Verisign whenever you use a .com .. they run the registry remember?
.tv for about 2 years now - I still remember all the stupid radio ads .. this is no news - just another PT Barnum money-maker for suckers ..
.. who says the internet doesn't have a core?
they'd been deploying
Th bigger problem this time, is since there is a lack of regulatory standards around pricing and service level agreements (ICANN is still a joke) - you've got one company that holds a monopoly running an exclusive registry and a registrar in the same container, with real power in both security and network routing
Is the software market drying up and they're trying to extend and embrace .. i mean diversify?
..
Boy talk about a viral company
and then how they were sued for it? and then tried to obfuscate it all by calling it C# .. yeah that was funny!
Read the article you dolt .. Lance Spitzner is Sun Security who reported the problem to CERT from the Honeynet logs!
At least there's active discovery and acknowledgement of their holes and an effort to help the entire community.
Actually - Windows is a registered trademark of the George M. Leader Family Corp for patients with Dementia. Microsoft just has Windows XP trademarked. Sounds like dementia infringement to me ..
very true! - when I was there last year a.root-server.net was around 11,000 UDP queries/sec and the others would peak up to around 5-6,000 .. occassionally they'd see things that would scare the daylights out of them. There are dependencies on the a.root server since DNS does have a hierarchy and a.root functions as a master of the masters .. in other words - master authoritative queries flow up and will hit a.root.
.COM zone was over a 2gb flat file - try doing your basic DNS pointer record lookups on something that size at that rate!
..
Add to the queries the size of the zones - the
btw - when win2K first hit - sustained load on a.root gradually increased by a factor of 4-5x - they were working on a number of strategies to filter at line speed and redirect queries - you wouldn't believe (or maybe you would) the bogus DyDNS requests and poorly formed queries that hit every couple ms
I personally wouldn't go so far as to call Windows an OS - seems more like a viral environment to me ;) .. or to quote from the ESR dictionary which seems oddly appropriate:
A thirty-two bit extension and graphical shell to a sixteen-bit patch to an eight-bit operating system originally coded for a four-bit microprocessor which was written by a two-bit company that can't stand one bit of competition.
If you want to get down to it - isn't the X Window System (Trademark Open Group) more similar to Windows and doesn't its trademark and use of Windows terminology predate Microsoft, and hasn't there been confusion surrounding this term propogated by Microsoft to the point where there has been dilution of a previous trademark?
How about teaming with the Open Group and countersuing?
When will we learn that duping MS products is not necessarily the best way to go?! Simply come up with better products that form the MS cashcow - namely office, visio, project, etc .. if you study what people attempt to do everyday to the level that they do you've taken the first step.
.. Just because the widgets look cooler doesn't mean that the interface is more intuitive or the apps are less of a resource hog.
.. use companies like Sun and IBM to drive the innovation that the smaller feeder companies can develop around and make all types of hardware cheap (not just intel based architectures) ..
Listen to complaints about different OS distros from the average undiscriminating user and I think you'll find that there's a wealth of intuitive knowledge about where the other OS's don't quite stack up.
If you really want to beat them i'd look to companies that can provide more of a professional element in the UI dept to make other OS's look less like university projects and more like polished tools
Personally I'm starting to think about Sol x86 (just pulled the iso's) and openoffice and what we can do there to make a better overall product
now I just need to hook one end up to a water supply and the other to a coffee filter with an IV tube for that extra shot of high adrelanine computing :)
Isn't this article more about Tivoli on linux and less about clustering?
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Keep in mind it's IBM software on linux that IBM promotes more than linux (partly because AIX is so lame and was never that widely adopted)
you should be able to squeeze the whole computer in here , run a connector to a battery pack, and have room left over for 2 beer cans on the side .. can't you just see this guy sitting in coach?
network leakage? i'm sorry - but do you understand the difference between RF and plumbing?
.. you goog head!
and security by short range is almost as bad as saying "security by obscurity"
heck yeah - 11Mb/s is quite fast! - but actually, well written network apps should only need 9600baud - so packet radio is the real way to go! .. it's much longer range and much more robust!
.. GUIs are for wimps!
come to think of it 640KB should be more than enough memory for most real users too
I mean forget about the h/w and think about it for a second - wouldn't it be easier for Microsoft to begin to put their bloat and software processes in some of the linux communities opensource arenas and obfuscate the line between the two that way?
.. I've started seeing a few reviews recently that begin to point out certain linux projects who are practicing "embrace and extend" ..
Perhaps Microsoft is already putting some of their developers in certain key projects
I just wish there was a good version of CDE.
Actually the existing hype is pretty funny now in it's own right - from the passport site
.NET Passport from any computer on the Internet. Your .NET Passport is protected by powerful online security technology and a strict privacy policy. You control which sites access it.
.. Passport - "One Name, One Password, One way for everyone else to steal your identity and shop online!"
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um let me see here .. you're asking if i understand the part where you said
.. oh wait - i guess you really didn't have anything to say beyond that at all - did you?
.US domain - they have the influence with the gov't to take it - in the same way they've been able to extend control of the other "favorable" TLDs .. for over a year now they've essentially been doing the DoC a huge favor by hosting it beyond their contract extension, and making a hideously broken system limp along, but didn't want to spend any of their money making it better.
.US!! and if they really did, they would have let the gov't know about 2 years ago when the DoC was trying to pawn it off to anybody who would take it (even the Post Office declined - going after a .COM address instead) - I know since I contracted there to bring up the .US TLD on their systems after they took it back from USC!! if you weren't happy with their service or policies that's simply because their mgmt didn't care about servicing the domain since it was just a resource sinkhole for them to maintain and they received no revenue for it.
.US TLD was the last bastion of order in a TLD naming structure trying desperately to hold onto the idea of distributed delegation and organization of names by uniform standards representing localities - (but of course - i assume everyone here is familiar with the RFC)
.. the .US TLD was Verisign's from the moment they bought Network Solutions and was given to them by the government! - it just wasn't worth the fight for them to keep it since they didn't know what to do with it or even how to do a noble deed and improve the management of it since there was nothing in it ($$wise) for them. to me that will always stick out in my mind from the ultimate internet trust company as a really bad move - the greedy company that limited the internet.
"at least they didn't give it Verisign?" and
my point which you obviously fail to see here is simply that if Network Solutions (aka Verisign aka Verisign GRS) really had wanted the
nobody at Verisign cared about
and in response to your question - it doesn't matter who gets it! - the domain name system is obviously broken beyond repair from its original intentions, and in many cases is no more useful than the IP addresses it obfuscates. the
in response to your ignorant one-liner
i'm sorry - did you ever study your internet history? it was Verisign's ever since Verisign bought Network Solutions.
.US domain), and managed to sweet-talk their way into keeping control over what became the big moneymakers. DoC never got on the ball to figure out what to do with the .US domain since everything else was a mess, and so it sat .. Verisign put in a bid, but didn't really care for the control of it and had been looking to unload it since they realized they had to manage it.
Network Solutions was awarded a government grant and had sole responsibility over all domains until the government got a clue as to what people were complaining about and started doing their job of regulation (something that should have been done around oh say '92) - under that contract Network Solutions (transferred to Verisign who bought out NSI) had responsibility for all those domains until the contract expired in '99 (including the
.US has been the bastard child TLD of the internet trying desparately to hold on to the idea of orderly conduct,
*brrp* wrong - thanks for playing
.US TLD and the other ccTLDs .. but guess what happened when NSI compromised the standards because of their greed? unregulation in the .com space crept into .net and .org and the whole thing fell apart. Until his death, Postel was relegated to working out silly squabbles in the .US domain (which NSI literally forgot about), and the .US domain seemed too regulated and became underutilized as it seemed almost everyone was seeking to make their fortune for doing nothing.
the purpose of domain names was for the identification and organization of entities. In the original scheme they had accounted for commercial, educational, network,and nonprofit entities that were globally based, and things that were to be regionally and locationally based represented by the
now guess what people are discovering - locational identification of entities are important and virtually impossible to do in the current scheme. we screwed the system up ourselves!! and in the process alienated some of the greatest minds and contributors.
hey - while we're at it - why don't we scrap letters and words and use icons .. it's just as random if you think about how silly it all it - it's already too late for anything resembling order in the domain namespace game anyhow, and the multilingual namespace is a joke (albeit an expensive one)
.us" </img>
the new TLD will be known as <img src=foo.gif> "the domain formerly known as
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yeah - it sucks when you can't use or change the underlying MS DLL's because you don't want to shell out cash to MS to figure out how they've setup their "hairball of an OS" .. also when they purposefully degrade Java performance ..
.. just say "no more!" to MS .. (recovery groups available for counseling)
make the break now!
why not Postscript and PDF? .. they're simple and nice conversions from MS formats, and PDF is a heck of a lot smaller - also I like the fact that Adobe gives away a reader and seems to have a superior professional typesetting product (what MS aims at)