I'm a slacker, and the distro looks great as always and I love new releases... but geez, are you ok pat? I'm thinking here imagining him trying to finish his release before he kicks off. This guys a soldier, you know what I mean?
"Must... finish..."
Probably letting my imagination get the best of me.
Alright? Its us and the lord of 3d gaming who think OpenGL is better. Kind of makes our position seem a lot more reasonable with that kind of support, yes?
Ugh, no no. BSD* is based of the BSD kernel;) They are completely seperate. BSD in fact predates linux by quite a bit.
Both are truly free OS's though. Linux being a unix-like and BSD being UNIX. From a users perspective, they are pretty similar really, and run basically the same software. Each has its strenght and weaknesses.
Ultimate, BSD users and Linux users are friends, but they are the kind of friends that bicker frequently.
I know your going for the +5 Funny mods, but.. your not a real linux user. Sorry, its plainly obvious.
What the fuck is "X-Bitch client".
Now, of course I know your talking about "BitchX" the IRC client. But the fact you got the name wrong is just plain lame. I mean, couldn't you have googled it? There isn't a dash anyway. Thats studying? You couldn't get an MCSE!
The parent is not full of shit as you are suggesting. He's correct about Apple. The happy guis and one button mouse has made you forget important things about OSX -- its still mostly closed source. Darwin is open, but its based on a platform that WAS MORE OPEN then it is now. A whole lot of other things they had to because of (L)GPL (KHTML, GCC). I'm pretty sure the rest of the stuff they have open sourced because it benefits them to do so -- ie, promotes mac standards. Rendezvous is a good example of this. They want to spread their way of doing this -- this isn't anything to do with gratitude or kindness. Apple doesn't have any of that. Its just another Company.
How quickly we forget that Mac hardware is a closed platform where developers of other operating systems such as linux are not cooperated with. Not all Macs work on Linux because Apple isn't nice with giving out hardware specs. But that doesn't matter, look at the pretty buttons. IBM's OpenPower5's deserve respect here for PPC, not Apple's crap. IBM's closer to a real open source company then Apple is because IBM does nothing but benefit from improvments to linux because they are not tied to a hardware platform, just support.
Apple hasn't thrown the OSS community anything really USEFUL yet, precisely because it doesn't want to fuel its competition.
Apple is just another company, perhaps more cagey then most, but still just another company. Get over it. --SD
This is such a pathetic troll. See, now the way of getting karma on/. is to pretend to go against the memes.
"Let the bashing of MS begin!" "... see, I'm trying to be fair here, I'm different, I'm not like everyonee else who just knee-jerk hates MS."
Pah, your worse. MS earned its hatred.
You know what? Why the fuck shouldn't we all just give MS as hard a time as possible. After all, maybe you don't keep up with current events, but...
1. They want to destroy linux, and have funded organizations that have tried to destroy it in the past.
2. They lie constantly about linux, claiming its slow, insecure, etc, compared to their products.
3. They have and actively maintain an illegal monopoly.
4. Their products, in general, are really, really crappy.
And now your saying we should be all nice and friendly with these lamers? Fuck that, I think we should say whatever the hell we want about Billy and his shit company, because they sure as hell say whatever they like about us. In the real world, no one actually says "Boy, those MS guys are really immature, dissing linux all the time. I'll avoid their products", nor do they say the opposite when we do it. They just sit and think, "I hear a lot of bad things about linux these days" and they don't look deeper then that.
If someone wants to shit on MS for a flimsy reasons then all the power to them! --SD
I 100% totally second this. In my job I do a lot of on site work, and very frequently have to mess around with networks. I know of a product your looking for made by a small company, and its a 100% usb power 5 port network switch. Its... the W-Linx SW-005CM.
Unfortunately, they don't have any resellers in Canada so I couldn't get one.
America is blamed for a lot of things because if you did a little research into things you would find that your beloved country is responsible for a hell of a lot of suffering in the world. This obviously isn't one of them, of course. What I'm saying is, America -is- responsible for a lot of evil stuff that happens in the world, either directly or though one of the dictators it installed/supported.
Thats why US is the worlds most hated country, and why you get blamed for shit all the time.
FreeBSD is a beautiful operating system. Its smooth sleek and it truly is elegant, and I mean truly elegant -- and by that I don't mean it works best with a single button mouse and has ugly round widgets and grossly overrated fonts. I mean its fast and efficient in ways that OSX will and can never be. The ports collection is fantastic, the OS works wonderfully as a desktop OS (even with linux compatiblity!:) and its positively stunning as a server.
OSX is just more propietary crap from the company most famous for it. Its got a "pretty" GUI thats bloated and busy. Ugh! OSX reminds me of CDE. And you better like that GUI, because your fuckin stuck with it.
No no no, OSX has some bits of bsd microkernel and some other crap in it. FreeBSD is just pure wholesome goodness that somehow survived the lameness of the modern age.
Even having propietary bloated OSX in the same sentence of razor sharp FreeBSD is just plain old blasphemy that calls for nothing less then a burning.
A hacker is someone who makes furniture with an axe. Computer people stole that title from its rightful owners. Just imagine how pissed off the people who make furniture with axes are now, seeing THEIR name used to represent computer crimials instead of the wholesome activity of axe-based furniture making.
Because this is just more costs. I agree to a certain extent that having backup hardware for things that are prone to fail often (HD, Powersupply) but having to stock ahead for failure isn't always cost effective for expensive servers.
As an service technician who repairs and maintains IBM a good deal of IBM pc's for local businesses.... I can say that IBM's technical support and staff are easily, easily, the absolute best in the industry. That is 100% why we recomend IBM pc's to our clients.. because we know that IBM will have the parts to fix problematic equipment, and the technical support to ensure it works right.
If some crap company from China buys it.. poof! The excellent support -- and the only reason to buy IBM pc's -- goes away forever. I would have to go back to recomending HP/Compaq's.
This annoying nonsense pisses me off. I don't want a fuckin *MICROSOFT* XBox because...
1. MS stinks and I'm not some POS hypocrit that ditches his values for a few crappy games.
2. I already own a PC with a powerful graphics card that performs better then any lame console.
3. Gamepads make playing 3d games a chore, mouse+keyboard is the One True Way.
What is singularly unimportant is your damn opinion that all linux users should buy XBoxes! I mean, what kind of assholes do you think most slashdotters are? A whole lot of us complain about Microsoft, then you lamely suggest we should all go buy Microsoft XBoxes to play games instead of use our PC's which are better suited to our desires.
I guess what I really mean to say is: Kiss my ass. If we want games, then we'll just try and convince people to port them to linux and if they don't fuck'em.
Besides, since when was linux made for big business jackasses? I don't recall hearing anything about how Linus started working for The Man. What a lot of garbage.
Ha! Now isn't that a blow to the evil SCO eh? Take that suckahaids! Novell dun bust a cap in your punk asses.
Seeing as how Novell recently released their Novell Linux Desktop I think its pretty safe to say that Novell won't be stabbing us in the backs like Caldera did.
Course, I mean, thats not especially solid. But check it out, its not like Caldera was ever much of a successful desktop. SuSE is pretty popular. Caldera was never more then a small niche linux... breaking linux for Novell would be breaking its own stuff now. SCO and its toadies were never making (much?) money of off linux.
Money is where the thing is really, I guess is what I mean. If Novell earns bucks with Linux I think we can expect them to play nice with us.
That said, I've heard NeoOffice is OpenOffice, but uses Java to replace the X11 parts or something like that, and that it works well on Macs since it doesn't require X11.
Look, thats just not going to happen ever. MS can just change the format when we get a grip on it. They've done it in the past. They made their format difficult to use so that reverse engineering it would be extremely hard and they do a good job of it.
OOo is a great peice of software, but it is simply never going to have perfect import export because thats just not possible to do on a moving target like MS has.
So, at least according to you, OOo is NEVER going to take over the world. Too bad for us I guess.
I'll probably get ignored or modded down for this, but...
I'm sorry, but I just cannot believe you use Abiword for any serious amount of work. Abiword is completely unstable. Its not stable in Gentoo Linux, its not stable in Slackware Linux, its not stable in SUSE (9.1), and it was not stable in Mandrake Linux when I used it a few years ago. There are many ways to cause that program to crash, and many ways to make it messup and just save an empty file.
I don't have it installed at the moment (because its grossly unstable alphaware) but if I did, I could find you at least one repeatable crash in less then five minutes easily. Especially with tables, those are completely a perfect way to lose data with Abiword.
It seriously needs to have its developers stop messing around and start fixing bugs. Oh! and I'm not the only one. My roomie wanted an Office app that was slimmer then OOo, so I said "Try Abiword, it been a few years since I last tried it, I'm sure its stable now." and of course, it crashed on him in class, acted generally buggy and sucked. Its just alphaware plain and simple. He went with OOo and while its slow, its at least stable.
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No kidding!
I'm a slacker, and the distro looks great as always and I love new releases... but geez, are you ok pat? I'm thinking here imagining him trying to finish his release before he kicks off. This guys a soldier, you know what I mean?
"Must... finish..."
Probably letting my imagination get the best of me.
--SD
Linux users are not ricers. Not even Gentoo users.
/look/ fast.
c er&r=f
Ricer's cars are not fast, or 'work in progress'. They are crap cars fitted with stickers and spoilers to make them
urbandictionary.com is your friend.
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=ri
That in no way describes linux as an OS, or its users.
And aren't Jaguars famous for being finicky unreliable peices of expensive shit?
--SD
Its "most Linux zealots" and John Carmack.
Alright? Its us and the lord of 3d gaming who think OpenGL is better. Kind of makes our position seem a lot more reasonable with that kind of support, yes?
--SD
Ugh, no no. BSD* is based of the BSD kernel ;) They are completely seperate. BSD in fact predates linux by quite a bit.
Both are truly free OS's though. Linux being a unix-like and BSD being UNIX. From a users perspective, they are pretty similar really, and run basically the same software. Each has its strenght and weaknesses.
Ultimate, BSD users and Linux users are friends, but they are the kind of friends that bicker frequently.
--SD
Its.... ~/.wine/user.reg :P~
--SD
Argh, I hate the mac community!
They are just all sorts of annoying... and now they want to want total control over my pants?!
No! You will NEVER control my pants!
--SD
I know your going for the +5 Funny mods, but .. your not a real linux user. Sorry, its plainly obvious.
;)
What the fuck is "X-Bitch client".
Now, of course I know your talking about "BitchX" the IRC client. But the fact you got the name wrong is just plain lame. I mean, couldn't you have googled it? There isn't a dash anyway. Thats studying? You couldn't get an MCSE!
YOU ARE TEH SUCK.
The parent is not full of shit as you are suggesting. He's correct about Apple. The happy guis and one button mouse has made you forget important things about OSX -- its still mostly closed source. Darwin is open, but its based on a platform that WAS MORE OPEN then it is now. A whole lot of other things they had to because of (L)GPL (KHTML, GCC). I'm pretty sure the rest of the stuff they have open sourced because it benefits them to do so -- ie, promotes mac standards. Rendezvous is a good example of this. They want to spread their way of doing this -- this isn't anything to do with gratitude or kindness. Apple doesn't have any of that. Its just another Company.
How quickly we forget that Mac hardware is a closed platform where developers of other operating systems such as linux are not cooperated with. Not all Macs work on Linux because Apple isn't nice with giving out hardware specs. But that doesn't matter, look at the pretty buttons. IBM's OpenPower5's deserve respect here for PPC, not Apple's crap. IBM's closer to a real open source company then Apple is because IBM does nothing but benefit from improvments to linux because they are not tied to a hardware platform, just support.
Apple hasn't thrown the OSS community anything really USEFUL yet, precisely because it doesn't want to fuel its competition.
Apple is just another company, perhaps more cagey then most, but still just another company. Get over it.
--SD
This is such a pathetic troll. See, now the way of getting karma on /. is to pretend to go against the memes.
"Let the bashing of MS begin!"
"... see, I'm trying to be fair here, I'm different, I'm not like everyonee else who just knee-jerk hates MS."
Pah, your worse. MS earned its hatred.
You know what? Why the fuck shouldn't we all just give MS as hard a time as possible. After all, maybe you don't keep up with current events, but...
1. They want to destroy linux, and have funded organizations that have tried to destroy it in the past.
2. They lie constantly about linux, claiming its slow, insecure, etc, compared to their products.
3. They have and actively maintain an illegal monopoly.
4. Their products, in general, are really, really crappy.
And now your saying we should be all nice and friendly with these lamers? Fuck that, I think we should say whatever the hell we want about Billy and his shit company, because they sure as hell say whatever they like about us. In the real world, no one actually says "Boy, those MS guys are really immature, dissing linux all the time. I'll avoid their products", nor do they say the opposite when we do it. They just sit and think, "I hear a lot of bad things about linux these days" and they don't look deeper then that.
If someone wants to shit on MS for a flimsy reasons then all the power to them!
--SD
head? No.
man file
e.g.
$ file nyt_ad_large_2004.png
nyt_ad_large_2004.png: PNG image data, 1001 x 808, 8-bit/color RGB, non-interlaced
I 100% totally second this. In my job I do a lot of on site work, and very frequently have to mess around with networks. I know of a product your looking for made by a small company, and its a 100% usb power 5 port network switch. Its... the W-Linx SW-005CM.
Unfortunately, they don't have any resellers in Canada so I couldn't get one.
--SD
America is blamed for a lot of things because if you did a little research into things you would find that your beloved country is responsible for a hell of a lot of suffering in the world. This obviously isn't one of them, of course. What I'm saying is, America -is- responsible for a lot of evil stuff that happens in the world, either directly or though one of the dictators it installed/supported.
Thats why US is the worlds most hated country, and why you get blamed for shit all the time.
You voted from Bush right? pbb..
--SD
Well...
:) and its positively stunning as a server.
;)
I'm a linux user, but...
FreeBSD is a beautiful operating system. Its smooth sleek and it truly is elegant, and I mean truly elegant -- and by that I don't mean it works best with a single button mouse and has ugly round widgets and grossly overrated fonts. I mean its fast and efficient in ways that OSX will and can never be. The ports collection is fantastic, the OS works wonderfully as a desktop OS (even with linux compatiblity!
OSX is just more propietary crap from the company most famous for it. Its got a "pretty" GUI thats bloated and busy. Ugh! OSX reminds me of CDE. And you better like that GUI, because your fuckin stuck with it.
No no no, OSX has some bits of bsd microkernel and some other crap in it. FreeBSD is just pure wholesome goodness that somehow survived the lameness of the modern age.
Even having propietary bloated OSX in the same sentence of razor sharp FreeBSD is just plain old blasphemy that calls for nothing less then a burning.
At least IMO.
--SD
A hacker is someone who makes furniture with an axe. Computer people stole that title from its rightful owners. Just imagine how pissed off the people who make furniture with axes are now, seeing THEIR name used to represent computer crimials instead of the wholesome activity of axe-based furniture making.
;)
--SD
Because this is just more costs. I agree to a certain extent that having backup hardware for things that are prone to fail often (HD, Powersupply) but having to stock ahead for failure isn't always cost effective for expensive servers.
Mainly, why use OSX on a server anyway?
--SD
As an service technician who repairs and maintains IBM a good deal of IBM pc's for local businesses.... I can say that IBM's technical support and staff are easily, easily, the absolute best in the industry. That is 100% why we recomend IBM pc's to our clients.. because we know that IBM will have the parts to fix problematic equipment, and the technical support to ensure it works right.
If some crap company from China buys it.. poof! The excellent support -- and the only reason to buy IBM pc's -- goes away forever. I would have to go back to recomending HP/Compaq's.
I hate HP so much...
--SD
Long answer should be: ;)
"Open source Solaris will not kill Linux" since just "No." is rather more of a fragment then a long answer.
--SD
This annoying nonsense pisses me off. I don't want a fuckin *MICROSOFT* XBox because...
1. MS stinks and I'm not some POS hypocrit that ditches his values for a few crappy games.
2. I already own a PC with a powerful graphics card that performs better then any lame console.
3. Gamepads make playing 3d games a chore, mouse+keyboard is the One True Way.
What is singularly unimportant is your damn opinion that all linux users should buy XBoxes! I mean, what kind of assholes do you think most slashdotters are? A whole lot of us complain about Microsoft, then you lamely suggest we should all go buy Microsoft XBoxes to play games instead of use our PC's which are better suited to our desires.
I guess what I really mean to say is: Kiss my ass. If we want games, then we'll just try and convince people to port them to linux and if they don't fuck'em.
Besides, since when was linux made for big business jackasses? I don't recall hearing anything about how Linus started working for The Man. What a lot of garbage.
--SD
Ha! Now isn't that a blow to the evil SCO eh? Take that suckahaids! Novell dun bust a cap in your punk asses.
Seeing as how Novell recently released their Novell Linux Desktop I think its pretty safe to say that Novell won't be stabbing us in the backs like Caldera did.
Course, I mean, thats not especially solid. But check it out, its not like Caldera was ever much of a successful desktop. SuSE is pretty popular. Caldera was never more then a small niche linux... breaking linux for Novell would be breaking its own stuff now. SCO and its toadies were never making (much?) money of off linux.
Money is where the thing is really, I guess is what I mean. If Novell earns bucks with Linux I think we can expect them to play nice with us.
--SD
'course, that would be a Genetic Fallacy.
;)
Not that anyone cares, mind you
--SD
Reality check: OSX is commerical. There is some debate whether is an unix or not, but its definatly, unquestionably, unarguably commerical.
--SD
http://www.planamesa.com/neojava/en/index.php
;)
Mac sucks. Mac users suck. Especally OSX posers.
That said, I've heard NeoOffice is OpenOffice, but uses Java to replace the X11 parts or something like that, and that it works well on Macs since it doesn't require X11.
Enjoy
Look, thats just not going to happen ever. MS can just change the format when we get a grip on it. They've done it in the past. They made their format difficult to use so that reverse engineering it would be extremely hard and they do a good job of it.
OOo is a great peice of software, but it is simply never going to have perfect import export because thats just not possible to do on a moving target like MS has.
So, at least according to you, OOo is NEVER going to take over the world. Too bad for us I guess.
--SD
I'll probably get ignored or modded down for this, but...
I'm sorry, but I just cannot believe you use Abiword for any serious amount of work. Abiword is completely unstable. Its not stable in Gentoo Linux, its not stable in Slackware Linux, its not stable in SUSE (9.1), and it was not stable in Mandrake Linux when I used it a few years ago. There are many ways to cause that program to crash, and many ways to make it messup and just save an empty file.
I don't have it installed at the moment (because its grossly unstable alphaware) but if I did, I could find you at least one repeatable crash in less then five minutes easily. Especially with tables, those are completely a perfect way to lose data with Abiword.
It seriously needs to have its developers stop messing around and start fixing bugs. Oh! and I'm not the only one. My roomie wanted an Office app that was slimmer then OOo, so I said "Try Abiword, it been a few years since I last tried it, I'm sure its stable now." and of course, it crashed on him in class, acted generally buggy and sucked. Its just alphaware plain and simple. He went with OOo and while its slow, its at least stable.
--SD
Its not like you can sue anyway. Most of the agreements involve the manufacturer not being responsible for damages or failure.
The whole "sue if it fails" thing is a complete myth. (IMO)
--SD