The point was that even a slashdot poster flaming the article couldn't even keep their facts straight regarding the GPL.
He did, however. That was my point. I simply explained it with better clarity.
You have assigned a motive to the article, but the article's point has nothing to do with what you claim.
Hard telling not knowing.
The GPL is a very risky business proposition at best and a walking patent infringement at worst.
I don't believe for a minute that the fact that closed-source software is any less of either of those than open-source. With GPL'd software, the infringing code is in the open and if it wasn't blatantly ripped-off, the situation can be corrected quite smoothly. Most (all, I would hope) GPL'd projects keep records of who submitted what, and in a case like that I would think the submitter of the infringing code would be the one held responsible for the infringement. How much closed source code do you think has been infringing for years without anyone being the wiser? That is a risky business proposition to me.
And who is this "we" that "aren't falling for it"?
The Linux community. Okay, I'll give you that perhaps that the author's intent wasn't to sabotage Linux, but doing as he suggests most certainly would.
You can promote it's acceptance. People don't choose to be African or Asian but you can still promote the idea that they are just as much people as you or I (which I believe is absolutely true, btw). Same thing for homosexuality.
Not saying that MTV goes about it the right way, or even tries to promote said point properly, however.
Actually, it all seems perfectly clear to me. The GPL doesn't say anythign about ownership. The GPL doesn't take anyone's ownership rights away. If you wrote GPL'd software, you own it. Simple.
The GPL covers distribution and use, just like the grandparent states. You are allowed to modify (aka "fork") and distribute your modified copy as long as credit is given to the original owner. This is only allowed because the holder of the copyright of the original code has allowed you to use it in such a manner. If they didn't own the code anymore due to such a license, you would be able to take the code and do whatever it is you wish with it.
I think the BusinessWeek article is trying to be slick and convince the Linux camp to switch to a BSD license because then Linux code could just be thrown in to any product in any way and used to their advantage. Imagine the mess that would create. OSS would loose it's greatest OS to corporate greed, and in turn they would try to pull more SCO-style cases and argue that they wrote malloc() or something first.
It's quite simple really:
Attempt to shed Linux of it's copy restrictions.
Create your own version, closed and proprietary, and sell it, claiming massive improvements and better support.
Sue the pants off the "free" version, claiming some code was leaked and copied from the proprietary version.
With the free version gone, more copies of Greed Linux are sold because it is the only way to get it, but since it sucks, everyone keeps buying Windows, or UnixWare. Profit!
Luckly we're not falling for it. The same thing could still be done today (but, as we have been watching, it is failing miserably), but it is quite simply MUCH more difficult.
This just goes to show that Linux is making significant progress and big business can't take it.
Any movie they try to name by the initials of the actual title will suck ass through a garden hose from several anuses at once, guarenteed. They're just trying to draw in the same viewers who watch COPS and Jerry Springer religiously, buy sports jersies with Looney Toons characters on them, and think that movies like Hellboy and The Mummy are deep, Academy award winning cinema.
Alright, I'm not going to go nuts on the privacy issue here, although it isn't really that nice of an idea. My problem is going to be with the insurance companies! Imagine getting an insurance bill on USEAGE, like a cel phone bill:
Going over your monthly limit will cost you $0.40 a mile.
Surcharges will be applied durring "Peak Hours"
There will be a 10% tax on your monthly bill for "License Plate Portability"
You'd best not travel too far from home, or "roaming" charges might apply.
If you are late on your payment because it was unexpectedly higher, a computerized operator will call you every 20 minutes from 8AM until midnight and ask you to hold for a customer service representative.
But on the bright side, all trips to the Emergency Room are free.
...Microsoft patents "A method of drawing oxygen into a human body automatically by process of instinctive involuentary contraction of a diaphram in the mid-tosto region for the purpose of combining said oxygen with the bloodstream."
We've found chunks of Mars in the Arctic (IIRC), could there have been some kind of huge collision that fragmented a huge chunk of the planet away and left the rest of Mars to slowly collapse into a sphere again?
Of course, that doesn't explain the markings on the present formation...ahh theorizing is so difficult;-)
Everyone is so excited about the possibility of liquid water on Mars, but has anyone considered that it might be some other type of liquid? Something with different properties that would explain the odd patterns?
This article intrigued me, but why is everyone so focused on water? Could the carbon dioxide or some other atmospheric gas be condensing in the cold north to form the odd runoff channels on the rock. This rock faces away from the sun and would therefore be one of Mars' coldest points. Could that be why there is little other than carbon dioxide in the atmosphere? Could wind erosion and perhaps even blast shockwaves from meteorites have been causing the errosive-looking paterns in such an enviroment? With the atmosphere being lighter, wouldn't meteorites hit harder and more frequently than Earth? Finally, can we draw any similarities to our own moon's surface, a place which we know much more about?
I find it sick and disgusting that Slashdot moderators could be so naive as to use the -1 Flamebait points to mod down an opinion that disagrees with the Slashdot collective. Are you all fucking borg or something? Use the brains you all claim to have.
"It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it." - Aristotle (384 BC - 322 BC)
They knew that then, what happened?
I don't see any hint of Flamebait here, and while this could be a troll why don't you allow some people to respond to it before deciding it's crap and should be done away with? If a post like this has 60 replies of rebuttal claiming it's lies, the author doesn't know what he/she's talking about etc. THEN perhaps it deserves a -1 Troll. There certainly isn't any Flamebait there. "IBM will assimilate OSS", OH NO, HE DID NOT! OMG THAT WAS SURELY TO GET UNDER MY SKIN AND MAKE FUN OF ME! GEEK PRIDE! GEEK PRIDE! OPEN SOURCE WILL PWN YOU ALL DAMNIT!
You could probably taste the sarcasm dripping off that statement (from where you're sitting, no less), but the sad thing is, this is how some of you children actually react. Without thinking.
So here is something else they knew back in the day that seems to have been forgotten: IBM was the big bad evil corporation back in the day, and yes, they got quite the smackdown from Microsoft. Perhaps they've learned their lesson but the post above makes a good point: Anyone who was in business 15 years ago remembers the shit IBM put them through and how Microsoft is the top dog now because everyone abandoned IBM and their BS. Now IBM is comming back with Linux to take the market away from Microsoft, but once they get in that top spot, what do you think they'll do? While we might know that there isn't a real lot of room to hold a monopoly thanks to the GPL (i.e. we can always fork their OS if they try to do something bad with it), some suit sees "IBM getting popular again" and they think "Oh jeez, I remmeber what happened with these guys LAST time and it cost us a fortune! QUICK, upgrade all our Microsoft stuff!" - that was the parent's point and my point too. The VP of your company doesn't read/. you know.
Here's a thought for you: Yugo could come out with the best car in the world tommorow. No one would buy it.
As soon as Real gets access to the iPod and iTunes, your iPod is going to start transmitting your GPS coordinates back to Real so they can keep track of what places you like to frequent and what stores you shop at. Your iPod will also randomly start playing advertisements, and your copy of iTunes will display nothing but slideshows of banner ads when you try to use the visualiser.
As sarcastic as that comment was, I wouldn't be suprised if this story where to come true; I've used RealPlayer before.
The rest of your post makes sense, but how is Apple's pushing (only supporting) their proprietary format different than Microsoft stuffing WMA "down your throat"? Sounds like mac-head doublespeak to me.
You're both kinda wrong.
Apple's doesn't really "shove" AAC down your throat, but their store uses it because it contains enough DRM to satisfy the music companies without being too overly intrusive. (Some would argue that any is intrusive at all but greed comes at a price, I guess...) That is why they made sure it was a good sounding format, one that they have a hand in. iPods play MP3 files perfectly fine, in fact IIRC the iPod was on the market before AAC and it was a software update that added the codec to the older iPods, although this was planned for (corrections to that statement welcomed).
The reason they don't support OGG is the same reason everyone else doesn't support OGG: Nobody frickin' knows! Support OGG, you insensitive clods!
I'm posting right now from a $3200 Power Mac 8600/250 system (purchased with some extras). 96MB of RAM, OS 9. Got a new HD for it a few years back, has not been upgraded since. Date of manufacture: May 1998 (iirc).
Not that I have the money either way, but before I decide on buying a G5 now or waiting a while, I'd like to see what kind of speed bump IBM is able to pull off for the next gen chips.
The sad thing is, I've been looking for a free Mac MySQL client, and I've never heard of it. I'm also a devoted Mac user...I'm falling behind these days I guess (damn you, ex-girlfriend, for making my life hell!)
they refreash the hd's everynight. They have custom scripts for it.
...which is exactly the type of thing that would be perfect for a library! If you want to get really cheap, x86 running Linux can do just the same, but isnt' as user friendly. (No, sorry, it isn't. Linux has come a long way but nothing X11 beats OS X.) Even if a machine was tampered with durring the day, at 9PM while and janitors are vacuuming away the terminals (Macs or otherwise) can be humming along restoring themselves (and in the process keeping the janitors from looking up porn). Mac IE renders mostly everything just fine but ActiveX sites are completely useless (but let's face it, most sites that use ActiveX won't be nessesary for library research...at least not any I can think of). Firefox and Safari are both very well done browsers as well, I haven't come across a page yet that either of them can't handle, although Safari has some quirks with full-page Flash sites...
That was pretty impressive, even though it's clearly in the early stages...wouldn't it be easier to put the tiles on a base of some kind as opposed to having them run loose around the floor?
PC is an acronym (kinda) for Personal Computer. Since a Macintosh is a personal computer, it too is a PC. Toss that one at a sales rep and watch their heads explode like telling a hardcore RPG freak that Square sucks ass.
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What is the advantage of one format over the other, besides attempted consumer lock-in?
Ales, make that Spelling for 400.
"It began with a bloody S!!!"
- Amtrak from Pittsfield, MA to Boston, MA: 4-5 hours.
- Car via I-90 from Pittsfield, MA to Boston, MA: around 2 hours.
Amtrak sucks.You can promote it's acceptance. People don't choose to be African or Asian but you can still promote the idea that they are just as much people as you or I (which I believe is absolutely true, btw). Same thing for homosexuality.
Not saying that MTV goes about it the right way, or even tries to promote said point properly, however.
Actually, it all seems perfectly clear to me. The GPL doesn't say anythign about ownership. The GPL doesn't take anyone's ownership rights away. If you wrote GPL'd software, you own it. Simple.
The GPL covers distribution and use, just like the grandparent states. You are allowed to modify (aka "fork") and distribute your modified copy as long as credit is given to the original owner. This is only allowed because the holder of the copyright of the original code has allowed you to use it in such a manner. If they didn't own the code anymore due to such a license, you would be able to take the code and do whatever it is you wish with it.
I think the BusinessWeek article is trying to be slick and convince the Linux camp to switch to a BSD license because then Linux code could just be thrown in to any product in any way and used to their advantage. Imagine the mess that would create. OSS would loose it's greatest OS to corporate greed, and in turn they would try to pull more SCO-style cases and argue that they wrote malloc() or something first.
It's quite simple really:
- Attempt to shed Linux of it's copy restrictions.
- Create your own version, closed and proprietary, and sell it, claiming massive improvements and better support.
- Sue the pants off the "free" version, claiming some code was leaked and copied from the proprietary version.
- With the free version gone, more copies of Greed Linux are sold because it is the only way to get it, but since it sucks, everyone keeps buying Windows, or UnixWare. Profit!
Luckly we're not falling for it. The same thing could still be done today (but, as we have been watching, it is failing miserably), but it is quite simply MUCH more difficult.This just goes to show that Linux is making significant progress and big business can't take it.
Any movie they try to name by the initials of the actual title will suck ass through a garden hose from several anuses at once, guarenteed. They're just trying to draw in the same viewers who watch COPS and Jerry Springer religiously, buy sports jersies with Looney Toons characters on them, and think that movies like Hellboy and The Mummy are deep, Academy award winning cinema.
- LXG: League of eXtraordinary Gentlemen
- AVP: Alien Vs. Preadator
Any others?The site has been Slashdotted and the server can be heard melting from here, you insensitive clod!
Alright, I'm not going to go nuts on the privacy issue here, although it isn't really that nice of an idea. My problem is going to be with the insurance companies! Imagine getting an insurance bill on USEAGE, like a cel phone bill:
The sad thing is, I might not be joking...
*mid-torso
In other other news, Tokerat is found to be partially illiterate.
...Microsoft patents "A method of drawing oxygen into a human body automatically by process of instinctive involuentary contraction of a diaphram in the mid-tosto region for the purpose of combining said oxygen with the bloodstream."
The USPTO found no prior art.
We've found chunks of Mars in the Arctic (IIRC), could there have been some kind of huge collision that fragmented a huge chunk of the planet away and left the rest of Mars to slowly collapse into a sphere again?
Of course, that doesn't explain the markings on the present formation...ahh theorizing is so difficult
Everyone is so excited about the possibility of liquid water on Mars, but has anyone considered that it might be some other type of liquid? Something with different properties that would explain the odd patterns?
This article intrigued me, but why is everyone so focused on water? Could the carbon dioxide or some other atmospheric gas be condensing in the cold north to form the odd runoff channels on the rock. This rock faces away from the sun and would therefore be one of Mars' coldest points. Could that be why there is little other than carbon dioxide in the atmosphere? Could wind erosion and perhaps even blast shockwaves from meteorites have been causing the errosive-looking paterns in such an enviroment? With the atmosphere being lighter, wouldn't meteorites hit harder and more frequently than Earth? Finally, can we draw any similarities to our own moon's surface, a place which we know much more about?
(I ask because I have no idea)
I find it sick and disgusting that Slashdot moderators could be so naive as to use the -1 Flamebait points to mod down an opinion that disagrees with the Slashdot collective. Are you all fucking borg or something? Use the brains you all claim to have.
They knew that then, what happened?
I don't see any hint of Flamebait here, and while this could be a troll why don't you allow some people to respond to it before deciding it's crap and should be done away with? If a post like this has 60 replies of rebuttal claiming it's lies, the author doesn't know what he/she's talking about etc. THEN perhaps it deserves a -1 Troll. There certainly isn't any Flamebait there. "IBM will assimilate OSS", OH NO, HE DID NOT! OMG THAT WAS SURELY TO GET UNDER MY SKIN AND MAKE FUN OF ME! GEEK PRIDE! GEEK PRIDE! OPEN SOURCE WILL PWN YOU ALL DAMNIT!
You could probably taste the sarcasm dripping off that statement (from where you're sitting, no less), but the sad thing is, this is how some of you children actually react. Without thinking.
So here is something else they knew back in the day that seems to have been forgotten: IBM was the big bad evil corporation back in the day, and yes, they got quite the smackdown from Microsoft. Perhaps they've learned their lesson but the post above makes a good point: Anyone who was in business 15 years ago remembers the shit IBM put them through and how Microsoft is the top dog now because everyone abandoned IBM and their BS. Now IBM is comming back with Linux to take the market away from Microsoft, but once they get in that top spot, what do you think they'll do? While we might know that there isn't a real lot of room to hold a monopoly thanks to the GPL (i.e. we can always fork their OS if they try to do something bad with it), some suit sees "IBM getting popular again" and they think "Oh jeez, I remmeber what happened with these guys LAST time and it cost us a fortune! QUICK, upgrade all our Microsoft stuff!" - that was the parent's point and my point too. The VP of your company doesn't read
Here's a thought for you: Yugo could come out with the best car in the world tommorow. No one would buy it.
*rimshot* (cheapshot?)
Apple's doesn't really "shove" AAC down your throat, but their store uses it because it contains enough DRM to satisfy the music companies without being too overly intrusive. (Some would argue that any is intrusive at all but greed comes at a price, I guess...) That is why they made sure it was a good sounding format, one that they have a hand in. iPods play MP3 files perfectly fine, in fact IIRC the iPod was on the market before AAC and it was a software update that added the codec to the older iPods, although this was planned for (corrections to that statement welcomed).
The reason they don't support OGG is the same reason everyone else doesn't support OGG: Nobody frickin' knows! Support OGG, you insensitive clods!
I'm posting right now from a $3200 Power Mac 8600/250 system (purchased with some extras). 96MB of RAM, OS 9. Got a new HD for it a few years back, has not been upgraded since. Date of manufacture: May 1998 (iirc).
Not that I have the money either way, but before I decide on buying a G5 now or waiting a while, I'd like to see what kind of speed bump IBM is able to pull off for the next gen chips.
The sad thing is, I've been looking for a free Mac MySQL client, and I've never heard of it. I'm also a devoted Mac user...I'm falling behind these days I guess (damn you, ex-girlfriend, for making my life hell!)
Only try to realize the truth:
There is no moon.
Well, sounds better than NotTheirSQL.
You just named the fork.
That was pretty impressive, even though it's clearly in the early stages...wouldn't it be easier to put the tiles on a base of some kind as opposed to having them run loose around the floor?
PC is an acronym (kinda) for Personal Computer. Since a Macintosh is a personal computer, it too is a PC. Toss that one at a sales rep and watch their heads explode like telling a hardcore RPG freak that Square sucks ass.