Okay, I was dissappointed by TtT, but you're on crack. You're a loon if you think they can do a direct translation from book to film. I think FoTR was an excellent job, but for a few very small problems, and those were changes, not cuts (eg villifying Bree). Its ridiculous to hold the cuts against Jackson. The large changes, on the other hand, are considerable, as they almost invariably are for the worse.
Umm, unless you're a complete troll, as you seem to have no idea of how the novel TtT went. Spider demon?
They cut that little "coming back" epilogue thing. Personally, I'd think it'd be good to film as an "extra feature" movie that they could tack on for the "ultra-mega-special-release" and force us to shell out $100 for copies of movies we already have just to get the last little part of the story.
Note for future reference: hackers, if you want someone to improve their security, don't go to the admin with your 'sploit, but anonymously release it into the wild. After all, the constant cease-and-decist letters _obviously_ say that that's what today's software companies want.
Whoa, for future reference, do you think it was the aussie comment or the RMS comment that got me troll-modded? Apparently mods can't grasp irony here.
Idunno, I think the perversion of Gimli is worse than the perversion of Faramir.
"Toss me!" WTF? And him being a big whiner for the whole film just pissed me off right proper. Gimli's my favourite character.
They lost all that fun witty repartee between Gimli and Legolas, which was the best part of TtT. It was the archtype of the elf/dwarf rivalry redone in every fantasy ever made - and they completely left it out.
Oh, I enjoyed the warg fight - although I feel it added yet-another-battle in a film already overloaded with battlescenes. I just really didn't like the falling-off-cliff subplot that was totally inexplicable.
I agree on Bilbo, but not on Theoden. In the book, Theoden frees himself from the control - and the control is by Wormtongue and not Saruman himself. Gandalf just gives him a hell of a pep-talk (and who knows, maybe some subtle magic).
On the screen, Theoden seems nearly completely posessed. I like the idea that Theoden saves himself, all Gandalf does is convince him that he has the strength to do it.
I don't object to leaving out the random general guy for the Helms deep reinforcements - I just don't like the reinforcements being Elves. It just doesn't fit. I would've rathered they'd just portrayed the Rohirrim as strong enough to defend themselves instead of the huge army of immortal elves coming to protect a random handful of barbarian men.
Honestly, I like most of the new effects except for the "Greedo shoots first" scene.
Yes, even the musical number.
My real problem is when they switch back and forth between new effects and old effects during the battle of Yavin. The death surface star switches from being a giant 3d computer generated space fortress to a bunch of painted tupperware and lego belching sparks out at glowy things. And I wouldn't even notice the cheap nature of it if it was consistent - but the new effects just make it look so painfully bad.
So, when can we expect The Ewok Adventure and Ewoks: the Battle for Endor special editions?
Crap, now I actually want to see it. I really didn't like TTT, mostly because rather than actually doing the plot of the books, it was a 3 hour battle scene with only the slightest trimmings of the plot thrown in - and the battles just got really old with time. You know that somethings wrong when the ents are less boring than the battles.
Now I have to see it, 'cause they actually put the plot back in the film.
Some can't even be enjoyed even with chemicals. I remember watching Final Fantasy: Spirits Within while being high as a kite. I still couldn't stand the stupid plot or pontificating cheesy dialogue.
Of course, the weed also made it really frustrating - all I wanted to see was more of Aki's dream sequences. The un-alpha'd aliens were the best part of that film.
I was thinking the exact same thing - except live action. Think of this - set up ultrasonic position emitters around the building, give each player a few receivers - two on head for location and heading of head, two on gun. Now we have exact position of heading and gun.
Give each player VR glasses - transparent ones, so we can alpha with the natural environment. Now, scan the building with the robot to do collision detection and occlusion detection for simulated objects such as projectiles and monsters.
Then make Quake in the real world. Laser tag with BFGs and AI Demons baby.
I've been waiting for this robot - its the last component for the natural idea - it means this system could be mass produced - without the robot, it would take a team of professional modellers to do the collision construction. Now, its simple enough for anyone - you just improve the robot also to program the sonic emmitters with their location.
Seriously, I'm surprised at the adoption of Linux on embedded apps. I usually consider embedded apps like a phone a real-time system. After all, not much new software will be added - and many of its functions have serious time and stability concerns. A user that has to debug their phone will buy a new phone.
And if anyone suggests real-time Linux: hush up before I laugh at you.
Amen - I'm surprised the government or companies have not encouraged the development of some sort of long-term storage system for archival purposes. What happens when you crack open that 5-year old archive of the source to see what a long-forgotten client is running, and find out the CD has skipped a few bits? Or old government documents?
Maybe more research could be done into a marketable multi-century (millenial?) storage.
For corporate purposes, several decades of fidelity, perhaps a century or two, would be fine - but government will need better than that.
Can anyone think of good media to store digital data that would last a few thousand years? Optical or otherwise, everthing decays, but what goes slowest? Engraved graphite maybe? Etched titanium disks?
I know, that's my point exactly - complaining that this amusing little study is pointless because it ignores the vacuous nature of space ignores that its exactly the kind of science that occurs in Star Trek itself.
Star Trek played loose with science - so why shouldn't amusing little studies of star trek play loose with science?
Yes, but neither Galactica nor Star Wars claimed to be hard sci fi - they were space fantasy shows and knew it. Star Trek tries to be all "scientific" often.
Idunno if you watch the same star trek show that I do, but Newton has no place in Trekkian space. If there's not atmosphere out there, I can think of no other explanation for the Trek ships very aircrafy-style handling. I mean the small fighters from DS9 bank to turn for shite's sake. I'll believe its real space the moment I see someone drifting backwards.
Personally, I'd rather a compromise - make permanent death possible, but not the end-all and be-all.
For example, make it wild-westish. Killing a man in cold blood is illegal and actually punished, but duelling is fair, and may be to death or to first blood or whatever.
Alternately, give the player some feasible explanation for resurrection. Personally, I'd love a "sims" ish approach where I can manage more than one character, so all the posessions of my "family" persist, even if the individual characters die. You are encouraged to develop all your characters to have back-ups, and allow the skill-improving system let your higher-level characters teach your lower-level characters.
I own a George Foreman grill and my girl owns a magic bag - two products that got their start on the infomercial/direct phone product circuit. So, by definition not everything on there is crap. That being said, I wouldn't buy anythign from one of those anyways.
I agree - WC3 should not be there - StarCraft is still a far more popular game except in the US. Still, you show ignorance when you bash FPS games for simplicity. While Halo is a pretty standard fare (CTF and vehicles) UT2k3 and Counter Strike are not. Personally, I think CS is an abominable game - if it weren't for team strategy in good clans, it would be unplayable IMHO - but some people are willing to look past the aweful mechanics in favour of the realism (?) money, and clannishness.
Really, the Quake titles have always been the mindless twitch action games that give the more intricate FPS games a bad rep.
And why was Total Annihilation not there? That is one game that was meant to be an olympic game. While it doesn't have the polish of the Blizzard titles, its play balance and raw intricity of play is unparalleled - that and there's nothing like watching a large-scale war unfold.
IMHO, games that should have been added: Need For Speed (whichever the newest one). Total Annihilation, some sort of Instagib FPS (for raw, unparalleled twitch action).
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Okay, I was dissappointed by TtT, but you're on crack. You're a loon if you think they can do a direct translation from book to film. I think FoTR was an excellent job, but for a few very small problems, and those were changes, not cuts (eg villifying Bree). Its ridiculous to hold the cuts against Jackson. The large changes, on the other hand, are considerable, as they almost invariably are for the worse.
Umm, unless you're a complete troll, as you seem to have no idea of how the novel TtT went. Spider demon?
I think I got trolled.
They cut that little "coming back" epilogue thing. Personally, I'd think it'd be good to film as an "extra feature" movie that they could tack on for the "ultra-mega-special-release" and force us to shell out $100 for copies of movies we already have just to get the last little part of the story.
That's the sound of nobody being surprised.
Note for future reference: hackers, if you want someone to improve their security, don't go to the admin with your 'sploit, but anonymously release it into the wild. After all, the constant cease-and-decist letters _obviously_ say that that's what today's software companies want.
dollar store alkalines.
Whoa, for future reference, do you think it was the aussie comment or the RMS comment that got me troll-modded? Apparently mods can't grasp irony here.
Lets get RMS to sue the bastards for defaming his precious open-source license system by aligning it with piracy.
Alternately, we could just start arresting all Aussies as animal abuse sex-offenders cause... well... you know.
Idunno, I think the perversion of Gimli is worse than the perversion of Faramir.
"Toss me!" WTF? And him being a big whiner for the whole film just pissed me off right proper. Gimli's my favourite character.
They lost all that fun witty repartee between Gimli and Legolas, which was the best part of TtT. It was the archtype of the elf/dwarf rivalry redone in every fantasy ever made - and they completely left it out.
You can't tell me you liked Jar-Jar Gimli, the bumbling idiot dwarf. Gimli was always my fave character.
Oh, I enjoyed the warg fight - although I feel it added yet-another-battle in a film already overloaded with battlescenes. I just really didn't like the falling-off-cliff subplot that was totally inexplicable.
I agree on Bilbo, but not on Theoden. In the book, Theoden frees himself from the control - and the control is by Wormtongue and not Saruman himself. Gandalf just gives him a hell of a pep-talk (and who knows, maybe some subtle magic).
On the screen, Theoden seems nearly completely posessed. I like the idea that Theoden saves himself, all Gandalf does is convince him that he has the strength to do it.
I don't object to leaving out the random general guy for the Helms deep reinforcements - I just don't like the reinforcements being Elves. It just doesn't fit. I would've rathered they'd just portrayed the Rohirrim as strong enough to defend themselves instead of the huge army of immortal elves coming to protect a random handful of barbarian men.
Honestly, I like most of the new effects except for the "Greedo shoots first" scene.
Yes, even the musical number.
My real problem is when they switch back and forth between new effects and old effects during the battle of Yavin. The death surface star switches from being a giant 3d computer generated space fortress to a bunch of painted tupperware and lego belching sparks out at glowy things. And I wouldn't even notice the cheap nature of it if it was consistent - but the new effects just make it look so painfully bad.
So, when can we expect The Ewok Adventure and Ewoks: the Battle for Endor special editions?
Not to mention the bizzarre little side plot of the Warg battle and Aragorn falling down.
And Theoden being posessed instead of manipulated.
and fscking elves at the battle.
To think they cut out good Ent time for that.
Crap, now I actually want to see it. I really didn't like TTT, mostly because rather than actually doing the plot of the books, it was a 3 hour battle scene with only the slightest trimmings of the plot thrown in - and the battles just got really old with time. You know that somethings wrong when the ents are less boring than the battles.
Now I have to see it, 'cause they actually put the plot back in the film.
Well, for digital CG chicks from movies, I have to say the girl from the very-similar-looking "Last Flight of the Osiris" is better than Aki.
Some can't even be enjoyed even with chemicals. I remember watching Final Fantasy: Spirits Within while being high as a kite. I still couldn't stand the stupid plot or pontificating cheesy dialogue.
Of course, the weed also made it really frustrating - all I wanted to see was more of Aki's dream sequences. The un-alpha'd aliens were the best part of that film.
I was thinking the exact same thing - except live action. Think of this - set up ultrasonic position emitters around the building, give each player a few receivers - two on head for location and heading of head, two on gun. Now we have exact position of heading and gun.
Give each player VR glasses - transparent ones, so we can alpha with the natural environment. Now, scan the building with the robot to do collision detection and occlusion detection for simulated objects such as projectiles and monsters.
Then make Quake in the real world. Laser tag with BFGs and AI Demons baby.
I've been waiting for this robot - its the last component for the natural idea - it means this system could be mass produced - without the robot, it would take a team of professional modellers to do the collision construction. Now, its simple enough for anyone - you just improve the robot also to program the sonic emmitters with their location.
NOOO I need my HC11!
Seriously, I'm surprised at the adoption of Linux on embedded apps. I usually consider embedded apps like a phone a real-time system. After all, not much new software will be added - and many of its functions have serious time and stability concerns. A user that has to debug their phone will buy a new phone.
And if anyone suggests real-time Linux: hush up before I laugh at you.
In that case, will Microsoft be embedding a Python interpreter into all their apps from now on? Death to .NET!
Amen - I'm surprised the government or companies have not encouraged the development of some sort of long-term storage system for archival purposes. What happens when you crack open that 5-year old archive of the source to see what a long-forgotten client is running, and find out the CD has skipped a few bits? Or old government documents?
Maybe more research could be done into a marketable multi-century (millenial?) storage.
For corporate purposes, several decades of fidelity, perhaps a century or two, would be fine - but government will need better than that.
Can anyone think of good media to store digital data that would last a few thousand years? Optical or otherwise, everthing decays, but what goes slowest? Engraved graphite maybe? Etched titanium disks?
I know, that's my point exactly - complaining that this amusing little study is pointless because it ignores the vacuous nature of space ignores that its exactly the kind of science that occurs in Star Trek itself.
Star Trek played loose with science - so why shouldn't amusing little studies of star trek play loose with science?
Yes, but neither Galactica nor Star Wars claimed to be hard sci fi - they were space fantasy shows and knew it. Star Trek tries to be all "scientific" often.
Idunno if you watch the same star trek show that I do, but Newton has no place in Trekkian space. If there's not atmosphere out there, I can think of no other explanation for the Trek ships very aircrafy-style handling. I mean the small fighters from DS9 bank to turn for shite's sake. I'll believe its real space the moment I see someone drifting backwards.
Personally, I'd rather a compromise - make permanent death possible, but not the end-all and be-all.
For example, make it wild-westish. Killing a man in cold blood is illegal and actually punished, but duelling is fair, and may be to death or to first blood or whatever.
Alternately, give the player some feasible explanation for resurrection. Personally, I'd love a "sims" ish approach where I can manage more than one character, so all the posessions of my "family" persist, even if the individual characters die. You are encouraged to develop all your characters to have back-ups, and allow the skill-improving system let your higher-level characters teach your lower-level characters.
I own a George Foreman grill and my girl owns a magic bag - two products that got their start on the infomercial/direct phone product circuit. So, by definition not everything on there is crap. That being said, I wouldn't buy anythign from one of those anyways.
Yes, this is true. So, what part of the body is it? Snot? Genital warts? Smegma?
I agree - WC3 should not be there - StarCraft is still a far more popular game except in the US. Still, you show ignorance when you bash FPS games for simplicity. While Halo is a pretty standard fare (CTF and vehicles) UT2k3 and Counter Strike are not. Personally, I think CS is an abominable game - if it weren't for team strategy in good clans, it would be unplayable IMHO - but some people are willing to look past the aweful mechanics in favour of the realism (?) money, and clannishness.
Really, the Quake titles have always been the mindless twitch action games that give the more intricate FPS games a bad rep.
And why was Total Annihilation not there? That is one game that was meant to be an olympic game. While it doesn't have the polish of the Blizzard titles, its play balance and raw intricity of play is unparalleled - that and there's nothing like watching a large-scale war unfold.
IMHO, games that should have been added: Need For Speed (whichever the newest one). Total Annihilation, some sort of Instagib FPS (for raw, unparalleled twitch action).