I remember a trek episode where spock diagnoses the computer is malfunctioning because earlier that week he'd programmed it to play 3d chess, and now he was able to beat his own program. I guess in the far future programming languages are really really good. Man in the real world I can outplay my own programs far too easily.:P
Then again Spock was WAY overrated at 3d chess. Kirk beat him routinely using "illogical" moves. Wait until he plays my little sister, she's the master of illogical moves!
When I follow the link I come to a page where the fonts are all squished up vertically, with outliers like "g" dangling down and colliding with the next line's "P"s. Anyone else see this?
Yes I run at 1600x1200 with mozilla's minimum font size set pretty high.
It would be nice, and lord knows their icons look silly anyway, so SVGing them wouldn't hurt them too much. But given linux's tendancy to make fonts rediculously small for no reason, and have a different font pref for every application, I think they made the right call. Esp on a beta product.
> 2) Doesn't support resolutions above or below 1024x768 yet (no, I'm NOT joking).
Dude, its a feature.
Remember, they are NOT MAKING A PRODUCT FOR YOU. They're making it for your grandma. Her vision isn't the best. If something's too small, she's not going to dig through the app for a font preference, she's going to throw up her hands and demand back her WebTV. OEOne desktop is not trying to take over the world. Just trying to take over a small slice of the newbie market.
I run at 1600x1200 and I'm always getting fucked by some app or web page coming up using 5 point utopia-ultra-tiny. I agree the old mac approach is best: never allow the user anything other than 72 DPI. But failing that, for an icon based UI that takes over the whole screen, what do you want them to do? They made a reasonable decision given the audience they are trying to reach.
In the last year I've moved both my mother, and my father and his girlfriend to linux. My mother I did first, and I set her up with a window-maker/gnome desktop. She's smart, but also lazy and never bothered to learn her way around the linux file system. She always relied on me for support, and never felt like it was "her" computer. That was important to her and she eventually blew $2000 on an iMac with OS X.
My father and girlfriend don't have the money to burn, and also are more easily befuddled by technology. I set them up with a fresh install of OEOne. What OEOne does well is make you feel like you own your computer. They're so far very happy.
There is a dark side to OEOne desktop, however. Its not really a prodcut, but a PR attemt to sucker geeks like us into using it and giving it mindshare. It has no built in modem control applet / internet wizard. They've written one for their set top box, but pulled it from desktop, basically to keep it from being a useful product.
Remember, OEOne is written for grandma, and grandma doesn't ever want to miss a call because she's on the net. She sure doesn't want to be unable to call out because she forgot to power down her comp. The mailbug has a really good connection manager, basically you never know the mailbug uses the modem because it does all its stuff when it senses you're not using the phone.
The user interface is decent, but a little clunky. Its got a lot of tiny mystery meat icons, scattered in unintuitive locations. They need to pay their graphic designers more or something.
Overall though its not a bad choice. The lack of a window manager is a big win for newbs. Instead there is a task bar and you swap back and forth between tasks. If the task isn't running it starts it up automatically. This is a good idea. I wonder when the condesending bone heads working on windowmaker will figure this out.:P
If you don't have the $2k for OS X, but you do have access to a geek willing to spend 3 days installing it, I think I'd recommend OEOne desktop. I worry about their committment to open source, blah blah blah. Not offering free security updates is somewhat worrisome too. Oh well.
If you actually ordered mobo from 1 place, video card from another, ram from 3rd place, and so on, wouldn't you get killed on the shipping costs? This has always puzzled me. Are people buying raw parts at local retail somehow? How?
Also, when some site like ars technica puts up their "our favorite system" articles, and you go to buy the parts they reccommend, do you ever notice that for many parts they're never actually for sale in a findable place? By findable I mean pricewatch. How do you guys do it?
Well, I installed "The long awaited RC3 spellchecker", figuring that was the one you meant. Thought the install was reportedly successful, I see no new user interface that actually lets me check spelling. Where is it?
Or did the fact that the xpi filename started with "w32" mean this is a microsoft windows only add on, and therefore not going to work here?
I had not heard of this, so I checked it out.
At mozdev.org they seem totally focused on Mozilla 0.9X for windows, there is no mention of mozilla 1.1, and buried obscurely a reference to a version that "should" work on 1.0.
So I guess you couldn't mention the spell checker for quite some time now.
Is there a version that not just "should", but "does" work for 1.1? 1.0?
If AOL thinks Netscape isn't easy enough to use to as their default browser, they shure as f**k aren't going to think linux is easy enough to use as their default OS.
Can someone post which distros still support which releases, and to what degree? E.g. I see that debian/claims/ to still have source packages for buzz, but I couldn't find them on their site.
If Ginger can average 8 MPH, its doing well against a car for urban applications, esp considering in many places parking itself can take minutes.
Also, look at total cost of driving a car: if this guy costs next to nothing to power, it will pay for itself after 1 year of 4 mile commuting.
So it could work. Of course you can get yourself a dang fine BIKE for thousands less, and its not much slower.
(The times are from fairly meticulous timings of myself in real world situations carrying real world loads. The car is probably the most variable, but was from my 4 mile commutes in an uncongested part of LA, with convenient parking at both ends. Now that I live in SF, with shitty parking, I don't touch the car).
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Heh, hasn't their OS monopoly destroyed any need for .Net runtime? I mean who would want to run MS apps on a non MS system anyway?
Of course I have no DLLs, I'm on LINUX. Why would I have DLLs?
Loading codec DLL: 'divxa32.acm' /usr/lib/win32/divxa32.acm, /usr/local/lib/win32/divxa32.acm :(
Win32 LoadLibrary failed to load: divxa32.acm,
Can't open library divxa32.acm
ACM_Decoder: Unappropriate audio format
Could not load/initialize Win32/ACM AUDIO codec (missing DLL file?)
ADecoder preinit failed
Couldn't initialize audio codec! -> no sound
Hm, well xine plays other sound fine.
Still, I'll give mplayer a whirl.
Eh, downloaded, unzipped, shucked into xine.
Video is great.
Sound is non-existant.
???
I remember a trek episode where spock diagnoses the computer is malfunctioning because earlier that week he'd programmed it to play 3d chess, and now he was able to beat his own program. I guess in the far future programming languages are really really good. Man in the real world I can outplay my own programs far too easily. :P
Then again Spock was WAY overrated at 3d chess. Kirk beat him routinely using "illogical" moves. Wait until he plays my little sister, she's the master of illogical moves!
When I follow the link I come to a page where the fonts are all squished up vertically, with outliers like "g" dangling down and colliding with the next line's "P"s. Anyone else see this? Yes I run at 1600x1200 with mozilla's minimum font size set pretty high.
It would be nice, and lord knows their icons look silly anyway, so SVGing them wouldn't hurt them too much. But given linux's tendancy to make fonts rediculously small for no reason, and have a different font pref for every application, I think they made the right call. Esp on a beta product.
> 2) Doesn't support resolutions above or below 1024x768 yet (no, I'm NOT joking).
Dude, its a feature.
Remember, they are NOT MAKING A PRODUCT FOR YOU. They're making it for your grandma. Her vision isn't the best. If something's too small, she's not going to dig through the app for a font preference, she's going to throw up her hands and demand back her WebTV. OEOne desktop is not trying to take over the world. Just trying to take over a small slice of the newbie market.
I run at 1600x1200 and I'm always getting fucked by some app or web page coming up using 5 point utopia-ultra-tiny. I agree the old mac approach is best: never allow the user anything other than 72 DPI. But failing that, for an icon based UI that takes over the whole screen, what do you want them to do? They made a reasonable decision given the audience they are trying to reach.
In the last year I've moved both my mother, and my father and his girlfriend to linux. My mother I did first, and I set her up with a window-maker/gnome desktop. She's smart, but also lazy and never bothered to learn her way around the linux file system. She always relied on me for support, and never felt like it was "her" computer. That was important to her and she eventually blew $2000 on an iMac with OS X.
:P
My father and girlfriend don't have the money to burn, and also are more easily befuddled by technology. I set them up with a fresh install of OEOne. What OEOne does well is make you feel like you own your computer. They're so far very happy.
There is a dark side to OEOne desktop, however. Its not really a prodcut, but a PR attemt to sucker geeks like us into using it and giving it mindshare. It has no built in modem control applet / internet wizard. They've written one for their set top box, but pulled it from desktop, basically to keep it from being a useful product.
Remember, OEOne is written for grandma, and grandma doesn't ever want to miss a call because she's on the net. She sure doesn't want to be unable to call out because she forgot to power down her comp. The mailbug has a really good connection manager, basically you never know the mailbug uses the modem because it does all its stuff when it senses you're not using the phone.
The user interface is decent, but a little clunky. Its got a lot of tiny mystery meat icons, scattered in unintuitive locations. They need to pay their graphic designers more or something.
Overall though its not a bad choice. The lack of a window manager is a big win for newbs. Instead there is a task bar and you swap back and forth between tasks. If the task isn't running it starts it up automatically. This is a good idea. I wonder when the condesending bone heads working on windowmaker will figure this out.
If you don't have the $2k for OS X, but you do have access to a geek willing to spend 3 days installing it, I think I'd recommend OEOne desktop. I worry about their committment to open source, blah blah blah. Not offering free security updates is somewhat worrisome too. Oh well.
No shit?!
Well I'm a monkey's uncle!
Can you give me the website of a wholesaler or two so I know what to look for?
If you actually ordered mobo from 1 place, video card from another, ram from 3rd place, and so on, wouldn't you get killed on the shipping costs? This has always puzzled me. Are people buying raw parts at local retail somehow? How?
Also, when some site like ars technica puts up their "our favorite system" articles, and you go to buy the parts they reccommend, do you ever notice that for many parts they're never actually for sale in a findable place? By findable I mean pricewatch. How do you guys do it?
I don't used a RPM based distribution.
Well, I installed "The long awaited RC3 spellchecker", figuring that was the one you meant. Thought the install was reportedly successful, I see no new user interface that actually lets me check spelling. Where is it?
Or did the fact that the xpi filename started with "w32" mean this is a microsoft windows only add on, and therefore not going to work here?
I had not heard of this, so I checked it out. At mozdev.org they seem totally focused on Mozilla 0.9X for windows, there is no mention of mozilla 1.1, and buried obscurely a reference to a version that "should" work on 1.0.
So I guess you couldn't mention the spell checker for quite some time now.
Is there a version that not just "should", but "does" work for 1.1? 1.0?
Er, it may be a browser but it is also a mail client and html editor.
Not to menchion ya kan uze a spel chekuh in text entri bokses too.
So the obvious missing feature of mozilla is a spell checker. Is this planned for any upcoming version?
I see it too.
I'm too lazy to look at the file, but I've clicked all rel-vant check boxes.
Is it propriatary? Is it GPL? I can't find any info.
If you're smart enough to set up TiVo, you're too smart to like TV.
I enjoyed your post.
If AOL thinks Netscape isn't easy enough to use to as their default browser, they shure as f**k aren't going to think linux is easy enough to use as their default OS.
Anyone else notice that www.blizzard.com seems to have dropped off the net?
May I suggest: Copter Commander
Its an Armor Alley / Rescue Raiders clone, and then some.
Can someone post which distros still support which releases, and to what degree? E.g. I see that debian /claims/ to still have source packages for buzz, but I couldn't find them on their site.
Average walking speed, in real world traffic:
Pedestrian: 2.5 MPH
Bike: 5 MPH
Car: 20 MPH
Ginger: 5-12 MPH
If Ginger can average 8 MPH, its doing well against a car for urban applications, esp considering in many places parking itself can take minutes.
Also, look at total cost of driving a car: if this guy costs next to nothing to power, it will pay for itself after 1 year of 4 mile commuting.
So it could work. Of course you can get yourself a dang fine BIKE for thousands less, and its not much slower.
(The times are from fairly meticulous timings of myself in real world situations carrying real world loads. The car is probably the most variable, but was from my 4 mile commutes in an uncongested part of LA, with convenient parking at both ends. Now that I live in SF, with shitty parking, I don't touch the car).