"It is evident that we have been exceeding the expectation of copyright owners..." When it turned out they weren't willing to take any responsibility for the actions, despite having threatened us with lawsuits if we didn't comply instantly and unreservedly.
I'm just so happy to have a story about hundreds of thousands of dollars stolen in which it *wasn't* completely inadequate security and general incompetence that enabled it.
The security precautions seem to have been sanely thought out, at least on the banks side. The judge and the treasurer otoh might decide they want a secure system.
I don't recall the military commander who said (Paraphrased) - "Going by the book is almost certainly right in any given situation. Except the world never hands you exactly that given situation."
Blind enforcement of the letter of the law without an awareness that there are situations, even common ones, not anticipated, is an inherently bad idea. I will always give credence to the possibility that a law that was a good idea in general was nonetheless a bad idea right here, right now.
Particularly in situations of physical safety where strict compliance may result in irreversible damage.
I) All thought provoking coffee house conversation aside, we have moved from a more violent culture to a less-violent one, all despite Poe, Hitchcock, NCIS, Grand Theft Auto, or anything else. Anyone that wants to compare modern society (I will except the horrors of war and other automated grand-scale killing here) level of violence with that of the Old west, or even the old East - before the Civil War a congressman bludgeoned an anti-slavery advocate to a pulp on the floor of the house of Representatives.
Today we argue about the jokes David Letterman made about a woman.
The trend is fairly obvious.
II) Then there's the flip side. I know I play games where I get to be the Hero - when I 'kill' in Morrowind, I'm fighting an evil that will overtake the land.
I also hear from the guy that talks on the forum about how he killed the entire population in the game. *THAT* guy is *weird*. And I have to wonder, if he thinks that is fun, *is* he going to feel the same way given something that helps enhance rather than mitigate that kind of 'fun'?
I don't think either of these is an insane take on the issue, so are they two competing trends, do they cancel out, or do they just mean we're headed towards a largely peaceful world that happens to have very occasional but very violent serial killers?
Just out of curiosity, because the more I think of this story, the more it smells like something where it's going to turn out to be a hoax. Maybe even one of those deals where there's all sorts of obvious stuff that should have been checked like birth records, et al.
Unfortunately the conservative courts have made it a practice to strictly limit damages to the public. When you know you can only be subject to 10 times the damages in costs, as long as there's no class action suit, if you can make more in profits than you think you will lose in damages, it makes perfect sense to do so.
A reverse lottery of sorts - as long as nobody else gets a winning ticket, you make out like a bandit.
(I note for the record, liberal courts have their faults too - I tend to be calmer about them because they do their massive damage accidentally, as opposed to being deliberate attempts to help the powerful at the expense of the weak, but even so - {G})
A prompt? You have a PROMPT?!?! we just had a blank screen and you had to *guess* where the password field was - and if you guessed wrong and the account locked, good luck unlocking it - the admins unlock program was designed the same way!
Your point does not follow - rear end collisions are, for good reason, considered to be the fault of the driver in the rear, not the person stopping at the light.
Which in no way changes the fact that the person stopping at the light will be hit, rather than be allowed to make a judgment call that causes less damage than strict compliance with the law would.
As someone that was hit by two cars (One hit me, and then one hit him.) while completely not at fault, discovered the insurance laws in Indiana meant the damage to me was measured on the basis of my income and how many people I was supporting - it turns out that I was a single white male living under the poverty line, so worthless under Indiana law,
But I've been dealing with sometimes mild, occasionally crippling back pain for almost 20 years now. It *is* fundamentally injust to create an automated system that forces people to choose between getting a ticket and not avoiding an accident.
How Scotus determined it's a Constitutional infraction for a person to receive punitive damages from a company in excess of 10 times actual damages, but thousands of dollars per song is hunky dory?
Oh, sorry, I forgot, those original meaning purists in the Supreme Court know that the original meaning of the Constitution was equal rights to the wealthy. God save us from jurists that complain about citing the logic in a foreign court case while citing Blackstone.
"If you accept to be ruled does it really matter how?"
Umm - yes?!?!?!
I remember nine years ago, people blathering on about how George Bush and Al Gore were hardly distinguishable and it made no difference.
A terrorist attack, two and a half wars, with eight years of dark age science, torture, and pissing on the Constitution later, I've come to the conclusion the 'How' makes a difference.
Sure opinions are like assholes. Oddly enough it turns out informed opinions are as rare as informed assholes.
My local TDS telecomm (Motto: "We're incompetent, we have a monopoly and we damn well like both these things.") has developed the fun habit of not finding sites and redirecting me to a page with a "Perhaps you meant (Site I was connecting too)?" Click on the link, it can't find the site --> Rinse repeat.
To be complete - the mercury is bad, but still something like 10% of the additional mercury that is put into the atmosphere from powering an equivalent incandescent.
Short form, still an improvement - at 60% usage even this new version incandescent is going to be worse, but who knows how that works out if it gets better still.
On the other hand, Costco is starting to carry LED bulbs now - expensive (~~$14 for three) but we replaced five 25 watt incandescent's in a lamp with five 1.5 watt LED bulbs. They are (Very slightly), but this particular lamp is on 90% of the time, so it might be less than 20 years before we make back the money - {G}. I love them in our Maglight - we replaced a burned out flashlight bulb with a high intensity LED; later my niece left it on in her closet for a week before we we noticed it wasn't where it was supposed to be. Not only was it still going, but it's been on the same batteries for 18 months since - can't beat that.
The height of American corporate practice - we won't do anything to keep our customers but will spend millions creating artificial mechanisms to distort the market and end any competition for them.
The good news is they're succeeding wildly - for instance I've neither pirated nor bought big corporate music in years because I can't stand either option. Instead I just buy direct from bands for half the price in a market *not* distorted by Sony and BMG, and by odd coincidence the artist gets to keep all of it.
It turns out market arbitrage is not a constitutionally protected right.
Well, let's be really clear. It was about using the legal definition of a term, in a legal document, in response to a question posed by another lawyer that presumably knew the legal definition.
Which is one of the two reasons put forward by the judge for no finding him guilty of perjury - the other being that even lying is (Strictly speaking) legal, so long as the deceit is not germane to the case. The Judge adjudicated that although his answer was deceptive, it was both technically true, and the answers were not actually germane to the case at hand. She was definitely ticked off by everyone involved - the counsel (incompetently) playing politics in her courtroom, and the President relying on a technical definition to give a technically true but deceptive answer.
For the first time ever, thousands of IP watchers write in to the patent office verifying that Microsoft be granted a monopoly on the concept of crippled operating systems despite any prior art - {G}.
I have to admit - Synaptic/APT is *the* big reason I can't imagine ever going back to Windows.
Most foss programs will, by nature, be ported to Windows sooner or later. APT really can't be - it's fundamentally incompatible with the Windows system (or so it seems to me).
So Stardock/Impulse and various other auto-updating solutions all end up looking like weak copies of APT/Synaptic.
One of the advantages of Linux shell is that it *is* a lot easier and more consistent than the Windows command line. Just having a consistent, easy interface for piping I/O as simple text makes it so much better than the equivalent in Windows.
There is a simple reason Linux junkies will go to the command line for stuff. It's actually feasible.
I'm not a particular Linux Guru, and even I once wrote shell scripts that organized webpages with sed - try doing anything vaguely similar under Windows?
Mmm - having run a highly tweaked version of XP and an untweaked version version of Linux on identical 750Mhz, 256Meg machines (Some neat little network machines I acquired when work was clearing them out), I can say XP, highly tweaked, is workable, but Ubuntu runs a lot faster on the hardware.
So you're saying that Vista didn't break *any* application you used under XP?
As someone that supports Vista for ISP customers, I have to say, that would either mean that you are using an unusually narrow range of apps on Vista (In which case I'm genuinely surprised you're having issues with upgrades in Linux), you are extraordinarily lucky, or mayhap you are experiencing highly selective memory.
For myself, while I will happily concede to being delighted at how much *less* difference there is between 9.04 and 8.10 versus say 8.04 and 7.10 (Which was like going from Win98 to Vista), I use a wide range of apps on Ubuntu, and have no recollection of an app being broken by an upgrade - entirely unlike my experience with Windows
To be fair, the single largest collection of breakable apps for Windows is games which are of course relatively sparse on the ground for Linux, but still, there have been more Windows apps broken between OS's that I've seen under Linux.
To the extent that a strong percentage (Perhaps even most) of the really powerful free software on Windows migrated from Linux, your post is both accurate, and completely misses the important point - {G}.
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"It is evident that we have been exceeding the expectation of copyright owners..."
When it turned out they weren't willing to take any responsibility for the actions, despite having threatened us with lawsuits if we didn't comply instantly and unreservedly.
There, fixed that for them.
Pug
Umm - why? I mean, given the ability to teleport your enemies, is using that to, y'know, teleport your enemies an exploit?
"Fricking Jerk - Just because he has the lightning bolt power he keeps people that attack him with it. Frickin' Exploiter."
Pug, exploiting his ability to hit the 'Submit' button in what may be a new and unexpected way!!
I find it odd that the definition of 'Troll' is 'used a PvP play area in the way it was explicitly designed to be used'
Slandering the man in outside forums the OP is perfectly okay with.
Which used to be a symptom of being a Troll.
Interesting.
Pug
I'm just so happy to have a story about hundreds of thousands of dollars stolen in which it *wasn't* completely inadequate security and general incompetence that enabled it.
The security precautions seem to have been sanely thought out, at least on the banks side. The judge and the treasurer otoh might decide they want a secure system.
Pug
Evidently untrue. According to the article, Clara Furse was.
Or at least such is implied - {G}.
Pug
I don't recall the military commander who said (Paraphrased) - "Going by the book is almost certainly right in any given situation. Except the world never hands you exactly that given situation."
Blind enforcement of the letter of the law without an awareness that there are situations, even common ones, not anticipated, is an inherently bad idea. I will always give credence to the possibility that a law that was a good idea in general was nonetheless a bad idea right here, right now.
Particularly in situations of physical safety where strict compliance may result in irreversible damage.
Pug
I have two impulses.
I) All thought provoking coffee house conversation aside, we have moved from a more violent culture to a less-violent one, all despite Poe, Hitchcock, NCIS, Grand Theft Auto, or anything else. Anyone that wants to compare modern society (I will except the horrors of war and other automated grand-scale killing here) level of violence with that of the Old west, or even the old East - before the Civil War a congressman bludgeoned an anti-slavery advocate to a pulp on the floor of the house of Representatives.
Today we argue about the jokes David Letterman made about a woman.
The trend is fairly obvious.
II) Then there's the flip side. I know I play games where I get to be the Hero - when I 'kill' in Morrowind, I'm fighting an evil that will overtake the land.
I also hear from the guy that talks on the forum about how he killed the entire population in the game. *THAT* guy is *weird*. And I have to wonder, if he thinks that is fun, *is* he going to feel the same way given something that helps enhance rather than mitigate that kind of 'fun'?
I don't think either of these is an insane take on the issue, so are they two competing trends, do they cancel out, or do they just mean we're headed towards a largely peaceful world that happens to have very occasional but very violent serial killers?
Just a thought - Pug
Just out of curiosity, because the more I think of this story, the more it smells like something where it's going to turn out to be a hoax. Maybe even one of those deals where there's all sorts of obvious stuff that should have been checked like birth records, et al.
I could be wrong, but it smells funny.
Pug
Unfortunately the conservative courts have made it a practice to strictly limit damages to the public. When you know you can only be subject to 10 times the damages in costs, as long as there's no class action suit, if you can make more in profits than you think you will lose in damages, it makes perfect sense to do so.
A reverse lottery of sorts - as long as nobody else gets a winning ticket, you make out like a bandit.
(I note for the record, liberal courts have their faults too - I tend to be calmer about them because they do their massive damage accidentally, as opposed to being deliberate attempts to help the powerful at the expense of the weak, but even so - {G})
Pug
A prompt? You have a PROMPT?!?! we just had a blank screen and you had to *guess* where the password field was - and if you guessed wrong and the account locked, good luck unlocking it - the admins unlock program was designed the same way!
Elder Scrolls V: Aliens Versus Daedra
Your point does not follow - rear end collisions are, for good reason, considered to be the fault of the driver in the rear, not the person stopping at the light.
Which in no way changes the fact that the person stopping at the light will be hit, rather than be allowed to make a judgment call that causes less damage than strict compliance with the law would.
As someone that was hit by two cars (One hit me, and then one hit him.) while completely not at fault, discovered the insurance laws in Indiana meant the damage to me was measured on the basis of my income and how many people I was supporting - it turns out that I was a single white male living under the poverty line, so worthless under Indiana law,
But I've been dealing with sometimes mild, occasionally crippling back pain for almost 20 years now. It *is* fundamentally injust to create an automated system that forces people to choose between getting a ticket and not avoiding an accident.
Pug
How Scotus determined it's a Constitutional infraction for a person to receive punitive damages from a company in excess of 10 times actual damages, but thousands of dollars per song is hunky dory?
Oh, sorry, I forgot, those original meaning purists in the Supreme Court know that the original meaning of the Constitution was equal rights to the wealthy. God save us from jurists that complain about citing the logic in a foreign court case while citing Blackstone.
Pug
"If you accept to be ruled does it really matter how?"
Umm - yes?!?!?!
I remember nine years ago, people blathering on about how George Bush and Al Gore were hardly distinguishable and it made no difference.
A terrorist attack, two and a half wars, with eight years of dark age science, torture, and pissing on the Constitution later, I've come to the conclusion the 'How' makes a difference.
Sure opinions are like assholes. Oddly enough it turns out informed opinions are as rare as informed assholes.
Pug
My local TDS telecomm (Motto: "We're incompetent, we have a monopoly and we damn well like both these things.") has developed the fun habit of not finding sites and redirecting me to a page with a "Perhaps you meant (Site I was connecting too)?" Click on the link, it can't find the site --> Rinse repeat.
TDS Telecomm - I hate them so very much - {sigh}.
Pug
It's a sign of respect.
To be complete - the mercury is bad, but still something like 10% of the additional mercury that is put into the atmosphere from powering an equivalent incandescent.
Short form, still an improvement - at 60% usage even this new version incandescent is going to be worse, but who knows how that works out if it gets better still.
On the other hand, Costco is starting to carry LED bulbs now - expensive (~~$14 for three) but we replaced five 25 watt incandescent's in a lamp with five 1.5 watt LED bulbs. They are (Very slightly), but this particular lamp is on 90% of the time, so it might be less than 20 years before we make back the money - {G}. I love them in our Maglight - we replaced a burned out flashlight bulb with a high intensity LED; later my niece left it on in her closet for a week before we we noticed it wasn't where it was supposed to be. Not only was it still going, but it's been on the same batteries for 18 months since - can't beat that.
Pug
The height of American corporate practice - we won't do anything to keep our customers but will spend millions creating artificial mechanisms to distort the market and end any competition for them.
The good news is they're succeeding wildly - for instance I've neither pirated nor bought big corporate music in years because I can't stand either option. Instead I just buy direct from bands for half the price in a market *not* distorted by Sony and BMG, and by odd coincidence the artist gets to keep all of it.
It turns out market arbitrage is not a constitutionally protected right.
Pug
Well, let's be really clear. It was about using the legal definition of a term, in a legal document, in response to a question posed by another lawyer that presumably knew the legal definition.
Which is one of the two reasons put forward by the judge for no finding him guilty of perjury - the other being that even lying is (Strictly speaking) legal, so long as the deceit is not germane to the case. The Judge adjudicated that although his answer was deceptive, it was both technically true, and the answers were not actually germane to the case at hand. She was definitely ticked off by everyone involved - the counsel (incompetently) playing politics in her courtroom, and the President relying on a technical definition to give a technically true but deceptive answer.
Just setting the record straight - Pug
For the first time ever, thousands of IP watchers write in to the patent office verifying that Microsoft be granted a monopoly on the concept of crippled operating systems despite any prior art - {G}.
Pug
I have to admit - Synaptic/APT is *the* big reason I can't imagine ever going back to Windows.
Most foss programs will, by nature, be ported to Windows sooner or later. APT really can't be - it's fundamentally incompatible with the Windows system (or so it seems to me).
So Stardock/Impulse and various other auto-updating solutions all end up looking like weak copies of APT/Synaptic.
You can't make me go back!
{G} - Pug
Ah, but is it smartly designed compared to Bash?
One of the advantages of Linux shell is that it *is* a lot easier and more consistent than the Windows command line. Just having a consistent, easy interface for piping I/O as simple text makes it so much better than the equivalent in Windows.
There is a simple reason Linux junkies will go to the command line for stuff. It's actually feasible.
I'm not a particular Linux Guru, and even I once wrote shell scripts that organized webpages with sed - try doing anything vaguely similar under Windows?
Pug
Mmm - having run a highly tweaked version of XP and an untweaked version version of Linux on identical 750Mhz, 256Meg machines (Some neat little network machines I acquired when work was clearing them out), I can say XP, highly tweaked, is workable, but Ubuntu runs a lot faster on the hardware.
Out of the box, XP was a great paperweight.
Just sayin' - Pug
So you're saying that Vista didn't break *any* application you used under XP?
As someone that supports Vista for ISP customers, I have to say, that would either mean that you are using an unusually narrow range of apps on Vista (In which case I'm genuinely surprised you're having issues with upgrades in Linux), you are extraordinarily lucky, or mayhap you are experiencing highly selective memory.
For myself, while I will happily concede to being delighted at how much *less* difference there is between 9.04 and 8.10 versus say 8.04 and 7.10 (Which was like going from Win98 to Vista), I use a wide range of apps on Ubuntu, and have no recollection of an app being broken by an upgrade - entirely unlike my experience with Windows
To be fair, the single largest collection of breakable apps for Windows is games which are of course relatively sparse on the ground for Linux, but still, there have been more Windows apps broken between OS's that I've seen under Linux.
Pug
To the extent that a strong percentage (Perhaps even most) of the really powerful free software on Windows migrated from Linux, your post is both accurate, and completely misses the important point - {G}.
Pug