True, but I really remember the G4 being on silicon for a pretty long time. Same holds for the 700+MHz G4. Motorola has been having a really really hard time getting yields up..
Which G4?
There are at the moment for processors with the G4 nametag.
The PPC7400 was the first one with a 5 stage pipeline.
Due to the fact that this processor couldn't run above 500 Mhz because of this 5 stage pipeline Motorola made a new processor with a larger pipeline and onboard level 2 cache (256Kbyte) called the PPC7450.
This processor starts nowadays at 800 Mhz and runs up to 1.2 ghz.
Second, there is the 7410 which is a lower power version of the 7410 and it can run up to around 700 mhz.
And the new G4 is the PPC7460 which can run upto 1,4 ghz.
Apple shifted from 666 to 733 and now to 800 as the bottomline.
The reason is quitte simple.
The yield is getting better and better and so does the average clockspeed of the G4 processors.
All 7450 processors run at least 800 mhz nowadays with almost 10% top out at more than 1 Ghz..
The same goes with the 7410.
One area which is specifically ugly on Macs is the communication wit PMU (power management unit microcontroller, includes battery control on laptops), which uses an horrid protocol.
But only on Powerbooks.
And the bus they are using is I2C.
Yep, that's another industry standard.
Dito for the protocol they are using.
For powermanagement the I2C bus is perfect and don't forget that contrary to most PC-laptops Apple uses a dedicated 68C09 processor with some ram and rom to manage the power, clock and nvram.
The thing is, Apple uses this concept in all their powerbooks.
Which makes it very simple to support it in for instance linux.
Apple really needs to refocus and release tech. info on their older systems anyhow. I've been fighting for 2 years to get driver-level specs for a Powerbook 1400, and have yet to recieve anything but a runaround. MacOS X based on a BSD core is pretty cool, but Apple just like IBM-clones need a choice. BeOS comes close, but neither of these will run on my PB. I'd hate to think I'd wasted my money.
Like Compaq, Toshiba, Dell and some other company's.
I have a five year old Pentium 90 laptop with 8 mb and Windows XP won't install on it.
Yeesh, get a live.
The powerbook 1400 is almost 5 years old.
And it isn't a PCI machine.
Strange, they are the only computercompany which didn't made a loss last quarter.
And the iBook and G4 ti is selling like crazy..
Typical anti Apple FUD as always.
Anyway, it's smartasses like you that make me want to whip together a Mac-based worm and call it anna.jpg. Enough dumbfucks would open it up to shut you up.
Well, contrary to your remark reality already proves that you are wrong.
There are about 56 viri for the Mac.
Almost all of them don't work anymore due to the fact that they aren't written correct and use obsolete API calls which aren't available anymore since MacOS 7.0.
Compare that with the almost +/- 60000 viri for windows pc's....
Second, most viri for the Mac are just stupid programmerglitches.
Like for instance the hypercardvirus.
None of the Outlook virues on Windows work for Outlook Express either. Anytime Outlook has auto-executed anything it's been considered a bug, and that is not how the Anna virus spread
Nope, it isn't a virus.
It is just a stupid script which is executed by Outlook when you double-click on it.
And that is just one of the biggest problems with Outleak.
I'm a sysadmin at a small company.
The only way to prevent that we receive any script- and/or.exe viri is by filtering all.exe,.scr and some other type files.
So, in front of the exchangeserver there is a mailserver with sendmail and some filtering software and anti-spam software (with a large database).
This seems to be the only way to secure an exchangeserver.
And it works all the time.
Since the "i love you" script we haven't had one virus.
Finally someone in a computer-related trial gets a semi-fair sentencing. I'm suprised he didn't get $4,000,000,000 worth of jail time for all the "damages" he caused.
Contrary to the US it is not common that people are compensated above Fl 50.000 (that's around $ 22.000) in the Netherlands.
If a waitress spill some coffee on in a restaurant the normal compensation is that the restaurant pays the bill of the dry cleaner.
Contrary to the US we at least have some common sense and it isn't done to sue somebody for a mistake (and it is almost impossible).
You will find that this is the case in most parts of Europe.
Well, that just the reason why I use MacOS.
The change that you can get a virus is almost zero.
The funny part about this is, that all those viri (or scripts) don't work with Outlook express for Macintosh.
No automatic execution of scripts and/or programs like with Outlook and Outlook express for Windows.
That's one advantage of the MacOS platform.
I'm using Eudora Pro and never had one virus.
And I avoid using any M$ product at all.
That's the only way to make sure that the change that I will get a macro virus is almost zero.
The problem with M$ software that it is very simple to make a macro- or script viri or worm.
Not using this software is the best way of preventing spreading of worms and viri.
And of course, you should always use anti-virus software with windows.
And update it at least once a week.
Our main Exchange 5.5 server is happily supporting over 1000 mailboxes on a Pentium-III 733 with 512MB RAM and loads of disk, so I have to ask why 11 exchange servers with 350 on each? You could do the job more than adequately with 4 Exchange servers.
For only mail a simple Sun Sparc 5 with 32 mb of ram was enough to host 1500 mailaccounts.
The only problem was, that when almost a thousand people checked their mail with telnet and pine the machine was a tad slow.
According to BSDi a Pentium/// 733 should be enough to host around 35000 mailboxes without any problem.
The problem is, that exchange is a extreme processor- and memory hog.
By best estimates so far 10k+ dead, that equals or beats some countries. They wanted terror, they won't get it. They get our anger, which will be far more destructive and deadly. Revenge is a dish best served cold. I can wait a bit. Anyone else?
Kewl, especially if they find out that it were some stupid Amerikans which are against the government planned this.
Would be a historic episode.
The US bombing the US...
The thing is, that there are enough idiot's capable of doing things like this inside the US.
This is of course standard US FUD about IP.
In the rest of the world we don't care.
The problem is quitte simple that there isn't a problem at all.
For LEGO this is a big plus and due to the fact that they aren't sueing the butts of those people is a VERY good thing.
That is also the reason why they are selling lots of kits.
If they started sueing everbody who hacks their OWN LEGO mindstorm kit, then they wouldn't have sold so many kits.
The thing is, that after you bought something it is yours.
And you can do with it whatever you like.
The problem with the DMCA and other stupid US laws is, that the government tries to (over)protect the people.
That doesn't work.
Ever seen a warning sign on an European cup of coffee that it's hot?
Of course not!!
It is known that a cup of coffee is hot, and if you burn yourself than that is your own stupid fault.
My understand of it is, only MS-type OS's were actually vulnerable to Y2K, all *nix/mac stuff just hasta worry about Y2K38
Most *nix and Mac stuff doesn't have to worry about Y2K38.
Even the oldest Mac only has to fear the dreadfull Y29K100 bug, and most modern *nixes like Solaris, AIX and MacOS X already switched from a 32 bits to a 64 bits clock.
Compare that with the Y21K bug every Intel compatible has to face due to the design of the clockchip.
After 2099 the clock will switch back to 1900.
Even the oldest Macintosh from 1984 won't have a problem with it due to the fact that it uses a 64 bits clock.
Why laugh looks likes Europe has an even worse spy agency. There is not a week that does not go by were a riot is happening or there is a terrorist bomb going off in some public place.
you mean that there is a bom going off in Northern Ireland?
Yeah, but the rest of Europe is much saver than the US.
How many people a day are shot again every day in the US?
And how many people are in jail?
It is quite obvious that ISS is several orders of magnitude larger than anything the Shuttle can lift in its payload bay. To be specific, just MPLM alone - "a moving van" of the ISS - occupies most of the payload bay, and that MPLM is tiny compared to the rest of the station. Plan (1) is not technically possible - not because of weight but because of geometry of modules. Each of them is bigger than the Shuttle.
You are forgetting one thing.
The russians have very large rockets with two or three times the payload of the space shuttle.
And second, all large modules are brought to space with those rockets.
They chose plan 1 and used the space shuttle for the small stuff.
Don't forget that almost all American modules are made by the Russians.
That's because they know how to design, assemble and lauch them.
If you want to launch a sattelite your first choice is the Russians, your second choice is ESA with their ariana IV and V rockets and your last choice would be the US.
The reason why?
The successrate of the Russians is almost 100%, of ESA above 50% and of the US around 50%.
Second, the Russians have more experience with launching rockets and getting people into space than the US.
Have you tried other base stations or alternate base station antennas? (Just curious)
The problem is not the basestation but the fact that the case of the Pb TI is made of.... titanium.
And a titanium case is a very good in keeping radiosignals in or out.
So, Apple had a problem with putting an antenna in the Pb TI.
Their solution is the best they could find.
They put a ceramic antenna on the left side and made some holes in the case.
This does work but it isn't as good as the antenna in for instance the iBook.
That's the drawback of using a titanium case.
Imagine having to postpone emergency surgery because the X-Ray techs are too busy restarting their Macs after receiving those friendly "bomb" and "Error: type xx" dialogue boxes;-)
Well, actually.. the reason why they are using Macs is that they are a hunderd times more stable than Windoze.
To be more precice :
Mac's don't crash when they are used.
And contrary to windoze, it is very normal to work more than a month without any crash.
Could the X-raying of electronics be a violation of DMCA? Seems like there might be a lot of copyrighted work in there, right down to the patterning of PCBs.
Of course. But not outside the US.
And second, who does give a shit about the DMCA?
The US is vastly becoming a second world country compared with Europe and the rest of the world.
And the DMCA will only makes this worse.
That happens when you let corporations rule your country instead of your government.
You lose and the corporations win.
Of course not. All countries outside of the US and Japan have very little to no work ethic. Lazy heathens/communists/socialists/French bastards!
Yeah, right.... (not!).
We don't have cublices.
The reason is very simple.
It kills productivity.
And, contrary to what you are saying productivity in most parts of europe is a lot higher than in the US.
Well, i had more luck with installing YD 2.0 on my Powerbook WS2 than installing Redhat 7.1 or mandrake 8.0 on my duron 750 pc. Everything worked in one time, while it took me around 2 hours to get X window to work with my taxan 620 screen.
The taxan 620 screen was connected to my pc.
With my powerbook it worked within 2 seconds.
Well, i had more luck with installing YD 2.0 on my Powerbook WS2 than installing Redhat 7.1 or mandrake 8.0 on my duron 750 pc.
Everything worked in one time, while it took me around 2 hours to get X window to work with my taxan 620 screen.
second, i can change the drive bays on the fly (so put in a zipdrive or dvd-player without restarting.
Pint is, that apple hardware is more standard than the average x86 machine.
Even my pc-card usb adapter works perfect with my ms optical mouse.
Someone please add an optical digital output to this thing... I don't want any analog signals entering my amplifier.
Optical sucsk.
Coaxial gives a lot better audioquality.
But the only problem is, that most mpeg chips also contains the DAC's to convert digital to audio.
So no digital output.
But only where laws like the DMCA exist would publishing a paper on how to circumvent a copyright method be a violation in itself. That's more the point -- without the DMCA, only the actual infringing uses of this information would be illegal, not the published information itself.
With other words : due to the DMCA there is no freedom of speech.
I'm glad that I don't life in the US but in a democratic European country...
The company he works for makes software that breaks the copy protection on Adobe's ebook software.
So what?
In most country's it isn't possible to patent encryption algorithms and software.
So, this Russian company isn't doing anything wrong.
I think that this guy is back home within two weeks.
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True, but I really remember the G4 being on silicon for a pretty long time. Same holds for the 700+MHz G4. Motorola has been having a really really hard time getting yields up..
Which G4?
There are at the moment for processors with the G4 nametag.
The PPC7400 was the first one with a 5 stage pipeline.
Due to the fact that this processor couldn't run above 500 Mhz because of this 5 stage pipeline Motorola made a new processor with a larger pipeline and onboard level 2 cache (256Kbyte) called the PPC7450.
This processor starts nowadays at 800 Mhz and runs up to 1.2 ghz.
Second, there is the 7410 which is a lower power version of the 7410 and it can run up to around 700 mhz.
And the new G4 is the PPC7460 which can run upto 1,4 ghz.
Apple shifted from 666 to 733 and now to 800 as the bottomline.
The reason is quitte simple.
The yield is getting better and better and so does the average clockspeed of the G4 processors.
All 7450 processors run at least 800 mhz nowadays with almost 10% top out at more than 1 Ghz..
The same goes with the 7410.
One area which is specifically ugly on Macs is the communication wit PMU (power management unit microcontroller, includes battery control on laptops), which uses an horrid protocol.
But only on Powerbooks.
And the bus they are using is I2C.
Yep, that's another industry standard.
Dito for the protocol they are using.
For powermanagement the I2C bus is perfect and don't forget that contrary to most PC-laptops Apple uses a dedicated 68C09 processor with some ram and rom to manage the power, clock and nvram.
The thing is, Apple uses this concept in all their powerbooks.
Which makes it very simple to support it in for instance linux.
Apple really needs to refocus and release tech. info on their older systems anyhow. I've been fighting for 2 years to get driver-level specs for a Powerbook 1400, and have yet to recieve anything but a runaround. MacOS X based on a BSD core is pretty cool, but Apple just like IBM-clones need a choice. BeOS comes close, but neither of these will run on my PB. I'd hate to think I'd wasted my money.
Like Compaq, Toshiba, Dell and some other company's.
I have a five year old Pentium 90 laptop with 8 mb and Windows XP won't install on it.
Yeesh, get a live.
The powerbook 1400 is almost 5 years old.
And it isn't a PCI machine.
After all, they don't have many left as it is...
Strange, they are the only computercompany which didn't made a loss last quarter.
And the iBook and G4 ti is selling like crazy..
Typical anti Apple FUD as always.
There goes my trip to Paris.
heheh.
The SMC basestation doesn't even need a password to setup.
Anyway, it's smartasses like you that make me want to whip together a Mac-based worm and call it anna.jpg. Enough dumbfucks would open it up to shut you up.
Well, contrary to your remark reality already proves that you are wrong.
There are about 56 viri for the Mac.
Almost all of them don't work anymore due to the fact that they aren't written correct and use obsolete API calls which aren't available anymore since MacOS 7.0.
Compare that with the almost +/- 60000 viri for windows pc's....
Second, most viri for the Mac are just stupid programmerglitches.
Like for instance the hypercardvirus.
None of the Outlook virues on Windows work for Outlook Express either. Anytime Outlook has auto-executed anything it's been considered a bug, and that is not how the Anna virus spread
Nope, it isn't a virus.
It is just a stupid script which is executed by Outlook when you double-click on it.
And that is just one of the biggest problems with Outleak.
I'm a sysadmin at a small company.
The only way to prevent that we receive any script- and/or
So, in front of the exchangeserver there is a mailserver with sendmail and some filtering software and anti-spam software (with a large database).
This seems to be the only way to secure an exchangeserver.
And it works all the time.
Since the "i love you" script we haven't had one virus.
Finally someone in a computer-related trial gets a semi-fair sentencing. I'm suprised he didn't get $4,000,000,000 worth of jail time for all the "damages" he caused.
Contrary to the US it is not common that people are compensated above Fl 50.000 (that's around $ 22.000) in the Netherlands.
If a waitress spill some coffee on in a restaurant the normal compensation is that the restaurant pays the bill of the dry cleaner.
Contrary to the US we at least have some common sense and it isn't done to sue somebody for a mistake (and it is almost impossible).
You will find that this is the case in most parts of Europe.
Well, that just the reason why I use MacOS.
The change that you can get a virus is almost zero.
The funny part about this is, that all those viri (or scripts) don't work with Outlook express for Macintosh.
No automatic execution of scripts and/or programs like with Outlook and Outlook express for Windows.
That's one advantage of the MacOS platform.
I'm using Eudora Pro and never had one virus.
And I avoid using any M$ product at all.
That's the only way to make sure that the change that I will get a macro virus is almost zero.
The problem with M$ software that it is very simple to make a macro- or script viri or worm.
Not using this software is the best way of preventing spreading of worms and viri.
And of course, you should always use anti-virus software with windows.
And update it at least once a week.
Our main Exchange 5.5 server is happily supporting over 1000 mailboxes on a Pentium-III 733 with 512MB RAM and loads of disk, so I have to ask why 11 exchange servers with 350 on each? You could do the job more than adequately with 4 Exchange servers.
For only mail a simple Sun Sparc 5 with 32 mb of ram was enough to host 1500 mailaccounts.
The only problem was, that when almost a thousand people checked their mail with telnet and pine the machine was a tad slow.
According to BSDi a Pentium
The problem is, that exchange is a extreme processor- and memory hog.
By best estimates so far 10k+ dead, that equals or beats some countries. They wanted terror, they won't get it. They get our anger, which will be far more destructive and deadly. Revenge is a dish best served cold. I can wait a bit. Anyone else?
Kewl, especially if they find out that it were some stupid Amerikans which are against the government planned this.
Would be a historic episode.
The US bombing the US...
The thing is, that there are enough idiot's capable of doing things like this inside the US.
This is of course standard US FUD about IP.
In the rest of the world we don't care.
The problem is quitte simple that there isn't a problem at all.
For LEGO this is a big plus and due to the fact that they aren't sueing the butts of those people is a VERY good thing.
That is also the reason why they are selling lots of kits.
If they started sueing everbody who hacks their OWN LEGO mindstorm kit, then they wouldn't have sold so many kits.
The thing is, that after you bought something it is yours.
And you can do with it whatever you like.
The problem with the DMCA and other stupid US laws is, that the government tries to (over)protect the people.
That doesn't work.
Ever seen a warning sign on an European cup of coffee that it's hot?
Of course not!!
It is known that a cup of coffee is hot, and if you burn yourself than that is your own stupid fault.
My understand of it is, only MS-type OS's were actually vulnerable to Y2K, all *nix/mac stuff just hasta worry about Y2K38
Most *nix and Mac stuff doesn't have to worry about Y2K38.
Even the oldest Mac only has to fear the dreadfull Y29K100 bug, and most modern *nixes like Solaris, AIX and MacOS X already switched from a 32 bits to a 64 bits clock.
Compare that with the Y21K bug every Intel compatible has to face due to the design of the clockchip.
After 2099 the clock will switch back to 1900.
Even the oldest Macintosh from 1984 won't have a problem with it due to the fact that it uses a 64 bits clock.
Why laugh looks likes Europe has an even worse spy agency. There is not a week that does not go by were a riot is happening or there is a terrorist bomb going off in some public place.
you mean that there is a bom going off in Northern Ireland?
Yeah, but the rest of Europe is much saver than the US.
How many people a day are shot again every day in the US?
And how many people are in jail?
It is quite obvious that ISS is several orders of magnitude larger than anything the Shuttle can lift in its payload bay. To be specific, just MPLM alone - "a moving van" of the ISS - occupies most of the payload bay, and that MPLM is tiny compared to the rest of the station. Plan (1) is not technically possible - not because of weight but because of geometry of modules. Each of them is bigger than the Shuttle.
You are forgetting one thing.
The russians have very large rockets with two or three times the payload of the space shuttle.
And second, all large modules are brought to space with those rockets.
They chose plan 1 and used the space shuttle for the small stuff.
Don't forget that almost all American modules are made by the Russians.
That's because they know how to design, assemble and lauch them.
If you want to launch a sattelite your first choice is the Russians, your second choice is ESA with their ariana IV and V rockets and your last choice would be the US.
The reason why?
The successrate of the Russians is almost 100%, of ESA above 50% and of the US around 50%.
Second, the Russians have more experience with launching rockets and getting people into space than the US.
http://www.idleworm.com/spoofs/Microsoftflash4.htm
Also funny
Have you tried other base stations or alternate base station antennas? (Just curious)
The problem is not the basestation but the fact that the case of the Pb TI is made of
And a titanium case is a very good in keeping radiosignals in or out.
So, Apple had a problem with putting an antenna in the Pb TI.
Their solution is the best they could find.
They put a ceramic antenna on the left side and made some holes in the case.
This does work but it isn't as good as the antenna in for instance the iBook.
That's the drawback of using a titanium case.
Imagine having to postpone emergency surgery because the X-Ray techs are too busy restarting their Macs after receiving those friendly "bomb" and "Error: type xx" dialogue boxes
Well, actually.. the reason why they are using Macs is that they are a hunderd times more stable than Windoze.
To be more precice :
Mac's don't crash when they are used.
And contrary to windoze, it is very normal to work more than a month without any crash.
Could the X-raying of electronics be a violation of DMCA? Seems like there might be a lot of copyrighted work in there, right down to the patterning of PCBs.
Of course. But not outside the US.
And second, who does give a shit about the DMCA?
The US is vastly becoming a second world country compared with Europe and the rest of the world.
And the DMCA will only makes this worse.
That happens when you let corporations rule your country instead of your government.
You lose and the corporations win.
Of course not. All countries outside of the US and Japan have very little to no work ethic. Lazy heathens/communists/socialists/French bastards!
Yeah, right.... (not!).
We don't have cublices.
The reason is very simple.
It kills productivity.
And, contrary to what you are saying productivity in most parts of europe is a lot higher than in the US.
Well, i had more luck with installing YD 2.0 on my Powerbook WS2 than installing Redhat 7.1 or mandrake 8.0 on my duron 750 pc. Everything worked in one time, while it took me around 2 hours to get X window to work with my taxan 620 screen.
The taxan 620 screen was connected to my pc.
With my powerbook it worked within 2 seconds.
I just think x86 is better.
Well, i had more luck with installing YD 2.0 on my Powerbook WS2 than installing Redhat 7.1 or mandrake 8.0 on my duron 750 pc.
Everything worked in one time, while it took me around 2 hours to get X window to work with my taxan 620 screen.
second, i can change the drive bays on the fly (so put in a zipdrive or dvd-player without restarting.
Pint is, that apple hardware is more standard than the average x86 machine.
Even my pc-card usb adapter works perfect with my ms optical mouse.
Someone please add an optical digital output to this thing... I don't want any analog signals entering my amplifier.
Optical sucsk.
Coaxial gives a lot better audioquality.
But the only problem is, that most mpeg chips also contains the DAC's to convert digital to audio.
So no digital output.
But only where laws like the DMCA exist would publishing a paper on how to circumvent a copyright method be a violation in itself. That's more the point -- without the DMCA, only the actual infringing uses of this information would be illegal, not the published information itself.
With other words : due to the DMCA there is no freedom of speech.
I'm glad that I don't life in the US but in a democratic European country...
The company he works for makes software that breaks the copy protection on Adobe's ebook software.
So what?
In most country's it isn't possible to patent encryption algorithms and software.
So, this Russian company isn't doing anything wrong.
I think that this guy is back home within two weeks.