Ok, I'll let you read what the parent poster said:
"By default we filter port 25 to only allow outbound email through our mail servers."
This means that outgoing port 25 connections are still allowed. All a hacked computer needs to do is be connected to on another port (besides 25) and then send the mail through the DSL providers mail server. This is in effect what is happening.
You probably thought he meant the other way around, but any ISP that blocked outgoing port 25 certainly would be extreme, but somewhat understandable considering the state of the internet these days.
Actually, I don't think this is the first time this has been showed. I know that part of it (or a very simular) presentation was shown during "Triumph of the Nerds" on PBS.
We used to run a google ad words when people searched for shell accounts or shell access and so on.
One day, we got a request from some lady in Florida. When I called her to give her the password, she was REALLY confused. I told her I was calling to give her the password and she said "I haven't even received the card yet". I said "Card? You don't mean like a shell gas station card do you?". "Yeah", she replied.
She had gone through our entire signup form and given her credit card information without even realizing that she wasn't on shell.com or something related to Shell Oil Company.
Yeah, and you are probably one of those people who bought Star Wars on DVD at 12:01 at Wal-mart and hummed the theme song in line, hoping to get some attention.
I've never even watched a single episode of Babylon 5. I probably should though.
My brother was arrested once because someone accused him of something which he didn't do, he spent a year in jail waiting for his trial and then the plaintiff didn't even show up.
Its funny, I didn't know anything about the movie Xanadu, but I remember this DJ Shadow song with a sample of a woman saying "When I came to America, I saw Xanadu, and that's all I wanted to do, roller skate." I had no idea what she was talking about.
You know, its really great when someone comes up with such a great and simple solution to what seems like a complex problem. Well thought.
Has anyone seen alternate character domains?
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I have been wondering when I would start to see these alternate character set domain names that you can get now play a role in this. You know, like someone registers cnn.com, but the c is not the latin character set c but one from another character set. Or something that almost looks like a c.
Then, without even hacking DNS, you can simply make someone or a group of people think that they are on cnn.com when they are really not. This could be used for things like fake news reports, etc. that make people panic.
Not necessarily. Unless they have something in their employment contract about side projects being under subject to ownership by the employer.
Of course, I'm of the opinion that if you're giving people time to work on side projects 20% of the time and then saying that anything they do outside of work is also owned by them (like Exxon or HP), then you are just being a jackass.
What I was getting at in my first post was that this person needs to enforce the time spent on other projects (only 20%) and make sure that they are not just using the time to surf the web or post to slashdot (like I am). Otherwise if left unchecked, it will get away from you and eventually people will be spending 80% of their time on other projects and hating you when you expect them to do the employers work.
An alternative would be to have a dedicated position called "open source developer" that would give the person in that position the opportunity to work full time on a project for 6 months or so. This would be some position that you would get promoted to after working at the company for a while. Then it would help other employees get motivated so that they could be the next person to take up that position.
That is a great idea and I think you will get a lot of brownie points from your employees that care about such things. But make sure you enforce what they can work on. Some people might use it as an oppurtunity to start another business that competes with your own, which might not be what you had in mind.
I think that if a lot of businesses had this kind of open mind it would surely help open source software.
that episode of STTOS where they visit a planet where they simulate nuclear war based on mathematical calculations and the people who would statistically die in the attacks where supposed to go into a chamber and kill themselves.
When it comes to doing things that I can take ownership in or that I thought of or are for my benifit, I find that I am much much more motivated than when I have to do a project for someone else's benifit.
Roy Fielding, who is developing the Waka protocol, which is binary, argued at ApacheCon 2000 that as long as the protocol is still understood, binary utilities could be made to decode things for debugging. But the 99.9% of other requests would be more important and benifit more from being in binary.
Here is an ethical question that I thought of when misreading the meaning of the title.
Should robots be preprogrammed to die? Should they be mortal (in the aging sense)? Are there strange societal issues that might come up when a concious entity is able to live for a 1000 years and tell very accurate stories and accounts from centuries past?
Whoops, sorry to the first couple visitors. I had an old rewrite rule in there to prevent hotlinking and didn't realize that slashdot was one of the hosts I was rewriting. Go figure.
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Ok, I'll let you read what the parent poster said:
"By default we filter port 25 to only allow outbound email through our mail servers."
This means that outgoing port 25 connections are still allowed. All a hacked computer needs to do is be connected to on another port (besides 25) and then send the mail through the DSL providers mail server. This is in effect what is happening.
You probably thought he meant the other way around, but any ISP that blocked outgoing port 25 certainly would be extreme, but somewhat understandable considering the state of the internet these days.
Uh, that doesn't help much. A lot of the spam these days are coming from hacked computers on cable/dsl connections.
Actually, I don't think this is the first time this has been showed. I know that part of it (or a very simular) presentation was shown during "Triumph of the Nerds" on PBS.
that I'm not going to tell people on slashdot what I do.
We used to run a google ad words when people searched for shell accounts or shell access and so on.
One day, we got a request from some lady in Florida. When I called her to give her the password, she was REALLY confused. I told her I was calling to give her the password and she said "I haven't even received the card yet". I said "Card? You don't mean like a shell gas station card do you?". "Yeah", she replied.
She had gone through our entire signup form and given her credit card information without even realizing that she wasn't on shell.com or something related to Shell Oil Company.
Unbelievable!
Is this the same kid that they interviewed in that documentary called Code Rush that was on PBS a few years ago?
There is also http://www.ethnologue.com/, which keeps track of over 6000 human languages.
now can they make a sound card that works well with Linux?
Creating sub atomic signatures as a message to post universe civilizations
Yeah, and you are probably one of those people who bought Star Wars on DVD at 12:01 at Wal-mart and hummed the theme song in line, hoping to get some attention.
I've never even watched a single episode of Babylon 5. I probably should though.
What is that?
Oh yeah, now I remember.
Of course, corporations use this tactic all the time to control freedom of speech when someone says something about them. I mean, Look at what happened to Penny Arcade when they made an obvious parody on Strawberry Shortcake.
My brother was arrested once because someone accused him of something which he didn't do, he spent a year in jail waiting for his trial and then the plaintiff didn't even show up.
Its funny, I didn't know anything about the movie Xanadu, but I remember this DJ Shadow song with a sample of a woman saying "When I came to America, I saw Xanadu, and that's all I wanted to do, roller skate." I had no idea what she was talking about.
;-)
Now I do.
Who wants to live forever? Ahhhhh eee ahhh
Ding! Ding! Ding!
You know, its really great when someone comes up with such a great and simple solution to what seems like a complex problem. Well thought.
I have been wondering when I would start to see these alternate character set domain names that you can get now play a role in this. You know, like someone registers cnn.com, but the c is not the latin character set c but one from another character set. Or something that almost looks like a c.
Then, without even hacking DNS, you can simply make someone or a group of people think that they are on cnn.com when they are really not. This could be used for things like fake news reports, etc. that make people panic.
Has anyone seen anything like this yet?
Not necessarily. Unless they have something in their employment contract about side projects being under subject to ownership by the employer.
Of course, I'm of the opinion that if you're giving people time to work on side projects 20% of the time and then saying that anything they do outside of work is also owned by them (like Exxon or HP), then you are just being a jackass.
What I was getting at in my first post was that this person needs to enforce the time spent on other projects (only 20%) and make sure that they are not just using the time to surf the web or post to slashdot (like I am). Otherwise if left unchecked, it will get away from you and eventually people will be spending 80% of their time on other projects and hating you when you expect them to do the employers work.
An alternative would be to have a dedicated position called "open source developer" that would give the person in that position the opportunity to work full time on a project for 6 months or so. This would be some position that you would get promoted to after working at the company for a while. Then it would help other employees get motivated so that they could be the next person to take up that position.
That is a great idea and I think you will get a lot of brownie points from your employees that care about such things. But make sure you enforce what they can work on. Some people might use it as an oppurtunity to start another business that competes with your own, which might not be what you had in mind.
I think that if a lot of businesses had this kind of open mind it would surely help open source software.
is it going to use aethernet?
that episode of STTOS where they visit a planet where they simulate nuclear war based on mathematical calculations and the people who would statistically die in the attacks where supposed to go into a chamber and kill themselves.
Sillyness. Nothing is left to chance anymore.
When it comes to doing things that I can take ownership in or that I thought of or are for my benifit, I find that I am much much more motivated than when I have to do a project for someone else's benifit.
Roy Fielding, who is developing the Waka protocol, which is binary, argued at ApacheCon 2000 that as long as the protocol is still understood, binary utilities could be made to decode things for debugging. But the 99.9% of other requests would be more important and benifit more from being in binary.
Oh, ok. Never saw it or read it. Shame on me.
Here is an ethical question that I thought of when misreading the meaning of the title.
Should robots be preprogrammed to die? Should they be mortal (in the aging sense)?
Are there strange societal issues that might come up when a concious entity is able to live for a 1000 years and tell very accurate stories and accounts from centuries past?
Whoops, sorry to the first couple visitors. I had an old rewrite rule in there to prevent hotlinking and didn't realize that slashdot was one of the hosts I was rewriting. Go figure.